Ep 317 ｜ Reigniting Pride in America ｜ Guest： Burgess Owens
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Burgess Owens, a Republican congressional candidate from Utah, joins me to talk about his campaign and why he is running for re-election. He also talks about why he thinks President Trump is the best thing that has happened to our country in a long time.
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. I hope everyone is having a wonderful day. Today I have the
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opportunity to talk to a congressional candidate from Utah, Burgess Owens, and we are going
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to talk about what America needs, the real problems that are facing our country right
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now, and how he plans to bring us together and to move us forward in a direction that's
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good for everyone, no matter what side of the aisle that you are on. So without further
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ado, here is Mr. Burgess Owens. Mr. Owens, thank you so much for joining me.
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Allie, I'm looking forward to this for sure, absolutely.
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Campaign is going well. We have a lot of energy here, I think across the country we've come
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to that point, Allie, where the gray is gone, and you have good people from both sides of
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the aisle just saying, you know what, we want to make sure we don't lose this culture, this
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great country that we've had so much hope in. And so the message I'm giving right now is
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that we literally have a chance to have conversations that we the people do best with. And when we
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do that, we can pull away from the darkness that we now see across our country, the divisiveness,
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the anger. It's no question this is the best time for Americans to come together and have
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great conversations about how to make sure we hold on to our future.
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And in your opinion, what is causing a lot of this division that seemed to really start and
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get worse under President Obama and has just kind of exploded over the past few years and
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few months? What's underneath all of that, do you think?
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This has been happening. What we're now seeing is something that's been kind of been working
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against us for decades. And this is, I think, why the election of our president in 2016 was
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such a remarkable miracle for us, because this has been going on. We've had little termites,
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and I call them termites. These are folks that don't like our country, that are radical left.
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They stand against every one of the tenets that make our country great. They stand against education.
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They stand about faith. They stand against the idea of capitalism and free market. And they stand
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against the traditional family that we've always believed has made us such a unique and great
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country. So we now see, because our president's pulling back the curtain, what's been going
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after us for quite a while. And I think what's happening is that they're getting a little bit
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frantic. They realize how close they came to power, particularly through the Obama years.
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We had eight years in which they literally were, and I'm going to use a football analogy,
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doing a 20-yard line. They figured they could go ahead, sprint into the end zone, and get out and take
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over our country. But we have a president who we elected, who's another football analogy,
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a great linebacker for us, that actually is stopping them from doing that. And now the way
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the people are waking up, we're going to actually, again, vote against everything that they've been
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trying to do for us. And I think it's now that we see this last year, we understand now what we're
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up against. And we, the people, just don't like it. So we're going to go in a different direction.
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Tell us a little bit about your story. Have you always been a conservative?
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Have you always been interested in getting involved in politics?
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Well, first of all, I've always been a conservative, but it wasn't until Ronald Reagan
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came along that I became a Republican. I grew up in a community, and I like to tell people this,
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Ali, because the narrative has been, because the left has controlled our educational system for
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decades, that the black community has been a hapless, hopeless race that was oppressed
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for 100 years by white people. And that's not the case. We represent all the other communities,
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cultures come to this country during a time where assimilation wasn't quite as rampant as today,
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whether it be the Jewish community, the German community, the Irish community. We turned within
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to make sure that we were doing the very best. We were living the American dream.
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And so we have in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, which many Americans do not understand or have not been
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taught, the black community was the most competitive minority in our country. We led the country in the
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40s, 50s, and 60s in the growth of the middle class. Men matriculated from college. Men committed
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to marriage because we had such a Christian faith-based community. And the percentage of entrepreneurs,
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we had over 40% of black Americans that were entrepreneurs, which actually translated to 50% to 60% of us
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being part of the middle class. So that was a community I grew up in in the 60s, very proud. And therefore,
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when I talk about what we're capable of and what's happened to us, it's not hypothetical. As a young man,
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I know what it is to have around me this segregation and KKK and Jim Crow laws, but a community of men and
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women that were so proud of who they were and so focused and committed to their families and their kids.
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That they were going to overcome all obstacles, which they did. Unfortunately, we've seen the
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last 60 years, something has turned us upside down. And Ali, to be honest with you, it has not
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been white supremacists that undid what we were doing. That was our greatest enemy. It was black
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elitists. Those who look like me, talk like me, but vote for every single anti-black policy that the
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left puts on their plate. Whether it be education, whether it be life, whether it be job opportunities,
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everything that the black elitists have done to destroy my community is now what we see in
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cross the board with other leaders trying to destroy our country. So I'm standing very strong.
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I've never thought about being in politics, but my dream since I left the NFL back in 83 was to work
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with at-risk kids. And I was able to finally do that out here with an organization that I founded
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called Second Chance for Youth. And I realized about a year or so ago that the kids I work with here in
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Utah and the millions of kids across our country that just looking for a second chance do not have
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a chance as long as the Democrats hold on to the House. Because it's all about policies. It's been
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about the viciousness we have, the anger, the hopelessness that we see in only every single
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blue city is about policies. And so once we change the policies and give people hope, like President
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Trump did the last three years, keep this in mind. I can't emphasize this enough for those who
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have not heard this. The last three years, we had the lowest unemployment in the history of our
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country for blacks, Hispanics, Asian, women, veterans. We had a 400% increase in black business
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ownership, which to me says everything. Because business ownership, small businesses, is where
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is the engine that powers our middle class. So we've had success. We're now seeing because of that
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success, black Camaras across the country are waking up. They're doing what I did 30 plus years ago.
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They're running off this plantation, the Democratic plantation. And we're going to be part of an
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American people across the board, every background and culture, every faith that says enough is
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enough. We want our country back. We're tired of the stealth, the divisiveness, the anger that's
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brought on by the leftists. We're not going to stand for it. And we're going to come together
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and just win, baby. And a little bit before your time, but Al Davis Raiders used to have this
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slogan, just win, baby. And that's what America is going to do as we move into the next four years.
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Why do you think there are people in particular on the left who don't want to win? They especially
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in particular for the black community, it seems they want to ignore everything that you've said,
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just the economic success that not only the black community saw, black Americans saw in the mid
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century, but also have seen over the past three years and say, no, no, no, no, white supremacy is
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actually your biggest enemy. And you have been oppressed and you've been pushed down. And the
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only way that you'll ever get picked back up is through the Democratic Party, through critical race
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theory and Black Lives Matter. What is behind that? Like, why is there a force telling black Americans
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that if, according to you, that's just not true?
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Well, the question is stated correctly. It's a force. We have to understand what's made our
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country so unique and why history is so important for us. We're a country based on Judeo-Christian
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values. In other words, we're a country based on the fact that we have godly principles that we do
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our very best to adhere to. That's why every single generation gets better and better seeing each other
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inside out versus outside in. I grew up in a time in the 60s where race was everything. We got past that
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because we as a nation continue to get better because we believe there's a God in heaven,
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that we just want to be blessed by him. So we have the other side, which is an ideology based
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on godlessness, called socialism, Marxism, communism. They're responsible for over 100 million deaths
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in the 1900s because it's an ideology that forces, that demeans, that destroys anyone who does not
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believe in him. So what we're looking at now is not something that's new. We've been at this fight
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for a long, long time. We just now we have a president who's kind of pulled back the curtains
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for us because he doesn't care about being liked by the left. He doesn't care about power or money.
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He wants a country to move forward. So he's doing things that no other president has done in our
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history. I mean, ever since Reagan. Reagan, to me, was a president who truly went against the grain
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because he could care less about that inner circle there in DC. We have a president today
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who's showing us what true American loving leadership looks like. And what I'm excited about
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is I'm just one of many candidates out there. This district I'm running in, by the way,
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it's between one and four of must have by both sides. We must have it to get back our country and
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our culture. The left must have to keep their chaos and their power. But across the country,
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there's about 20, 23 other candidates that feel the same way I do. And I promise the Americans
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who listen to this program, wherever you are, make sure we get the house back. And I can assure you
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that you will be so proud of this new team coming in because we're not there to be career politicians
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or lobbyists. We're there to save our nation, to replicate a president, to put some more backbone
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in our Senate, and to get our country going back to where our kids truly love our nation
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and the educational system that's coming at us for the last six, seven decades. We're going to
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get rid of these. We're not going to pay anymore for these colleges to take our children and have
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them go through it, indoctrinate it, coming out, hating our nation, being little Marxists. We're
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enough of that. We want to make sure that we're paying for any institution that gives us a great
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product. And our great product are kids who come out with a belief in themselves, a belief in our
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country, a pride in being an American, and moving forward to make sure that their patriotism is more
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important than their probability. That's the way that we have to change the way we're thinking,
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and this new Congress can get that done. So I hope everybody supports across the board,
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our country and our president, to give us a chance to get that done.
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Yeah, I think that it would be a huge step in the right direction if the curriculum in our public
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school system simply reflected the truth. There's nothing wrong with learning about the bad parts of
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American history. Every history has, you know, sins and flaws and times that we have not lived
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up to our ideals. And I think it's good for people to learn about that. I feel like I learned about that
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growing up for sure. But this kind of philosophy in the school of thought that's driving academia and a
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lot of public education that says America is endemically, systemically bad, and you actually have to
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hate your country in order to be a good person. Like you said, it's creating little Marxists and people
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who are just perpetually, not just offended, but resentful and malicious and hateful and sad and
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miserable. And I think that's what we see, unfortunately, taking root in some of the biggest
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democratic cities in the country. Would you agree? It's taking place across our board now because
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this is the way these people think. Again, it's an ideologist. It's an intergenerational ideology,
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just like Judeo-Christian barriers we hold on to, a path from one generation to the next. The same
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thing with the enemy that we're going up against. And it was Karl Marx in the 1800s said very simply,
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the first battleground is rewriting of history. We have to understand what happens when our history
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is stolen from us. Like the history of my, the black community's history has been stolen from us.
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What happens is without a history, we have no pride in our past. We have no appreciation for where we
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are and how far we've come. We have no vision of where we can become because we have nothing to
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reflect upon. So yes, we have, we have had, uh, just like, just like, because we're imperfect people,
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we will always be, make people make mistakes. There'll always be people that are, that are on the,
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on both sides of the aisle, evil and not, and good. But in the end of the gate, we've had a country
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that's done the very best because we have a constitution based on the idea of we, the people,
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be able to communicate. And the fact that all men are created, uh, all those kinds of concepts that
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came from a God in heaven, give us, give us at least a North pole to go toward. So yes, what we've,
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we're up against the people who just have, have tried to demean that and teach a totally different
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ideology. And we have to stand up against it and get rid of all these racist, uh, uh, concepts,
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which, which has us judging each other from outside and not, not, not inside out.
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President Trump was, uh, he was dragged through the mud after the Tuesday debate. All the headlines
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said that he has, he refused to, uh, to denounce white supremacy. And of course the media has been
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calling him a racist, you know, since 2015. What's your reaction to all that?
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Well, first of all, um, uh, when you have no God, there has no shame. Uh, and these guys are really
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good at repeating something so often that a lie becomes the truth to so many people called
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indoctrination. It's the same indoctrination that goes into our colleges. Now we have people,
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these kids graduating and going out and burning our streets because they have no idea what is to
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build anything because they're angry. So no, uh, the, the, the idea that, uh, we have a president
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who's giving black Americans the opportunity to live the American dream that I've looked forward to
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seeing for 60, 50 years now. I'm so, I've been so frustrated with the promises. So the true races are
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those who continue to use race as a, as a, as a card. Those who continue to look at our outside
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as if we could be judged or we should vote in a certain way based on our color. Uh, that is,
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those are the true races. Uh, the, the ones that are seeing past the race are those who put together,
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like president Trump, putting together policies and it should not be black, white, Hispanic policies.
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It's policies that help all Americans. And that's why we had such a great lift in our nation
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in terms of employment, uh, uh, getting rid of unemployment, getting rid of people getting on
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welfare. So I would say this for those who are wondering about, uh, the messaging, uh, let's turn
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off. If you feel depressed and down, uh, turn it off. You know, we need to be a hopeful nation and
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we're going to find out from certain stations. We're not going to ever get hopefulness in this,
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uh, during this phase because anything that's good is not talked about anything that's bad that they
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can bring up. They love to talk about. So let's, we, the people have a conversation. I can say this
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one thing, Ellie, Ellie, Democrats, independents, and Republicans, the greatest strength we have
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is the ability to talk together. We might not agree on, on, on how to get there, but we have the
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same end game, which will make sure our country is greater for ourselves and our, and our kids more
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hopeful. Let's have these conversations and that's, let's, let's not let the left divide us.
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The most powerful three words in the history of mankind are those three words. We, the people,
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when we talk, when we have conversations, when we can agree to disagree, we, we move ourselves
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forward in a way that our country becomes greater. And as we're not talking, as we cancel each other
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out, as we beat people up because they don't agree with us, that's the left winning. They do not
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want us to do that. They don't want us to have conversation. They do not want us to have harmony.
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So let's continue to talk guys. And this last year is a great opportunity for us to have
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conversations about our faith, about our, our businesses, about our kids going to school,
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because we have one side that's trying to shut it all down. And the other side is saying,
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let's get back to normal. Let's live our American dream, go for life, living the pursuit of happiness.
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We need to make sure we're voting for that, that side that gives us light and hope.
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Joe Biden has said that he is going to be the one to kind of bring us all together. He is trying to
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paint this optimistic picture of his presidency and say that, you know, he's the representation of,
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of normalcy and being the adult in the room, and he's going to make everyone's life better.
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Do you think there's anything behind his promises?
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I could answer it by just saying this. Come on, man.
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Come on, man. No, Joe has proven for 47 years, he's done, but a, he's a, he's a professional
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politician who's been self-centered, who has ripped off our nation, allowed his son to travel around
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the world, becoming wealthy. His brother become wealthy on our dime. And I tell you, we need to
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have people that are principled, that love our nation, above themselves, and not, not sell us
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out because they want to get their fame and fortune. And I think the biggest thing, which is sad to see,
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this is what's happening with professional, professional politicians. They don't know when
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to stop. They don't know when to retire. They love power so much that we have a guy who cannot,
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cannot think past tomorrow. That's literally trying to run our country. And we have people around him
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that allows us to happen. These are folks who care less about our future, about how well we can compete
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against China and Russia and all the other places. They want power so much that they have a guy who
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literally cannot think past tomorrow's conversation because he can't remember or last yesterday's
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conversation. So we have to recognize what we're up against. So let's make sure we get someone who
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understands how to fight to fight for us big time and have the energy to do it.
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And in particular to your race, what do you see as, as the biggest issue when you're out there
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talking to voters, what are they most concerned about and what do they most care about?
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You know, it's, it's interesting because the things that Americans care about are the same,
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same tenets that allows us to literally be within one generation away from being part of the middle
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class. It's really simple in terms of what conservatives is all about, what our, what our family,
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our founders try to make happen is education. We should make sure our kids can think they're,
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they're, they're confident in themselves. They can have, have conversations without being angry
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because they know they can, they can win argument. So education is so important. And that's what
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they've been taking, the left has been taken away from us. The idea of having our faith, when we cannot
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believe as a God in heaven, that that's there to help us overcome those obstacles, that allows us
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to look at each other again from inside out, not outside in. Faith is key. And the left would love to
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take away our faith. The fact, the fact of capitalism, compassionate capitalism is where
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those who have faith, who want to serve, and they want to make enough income, they have their,
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they can, they can pursue their dreams. Capitalism is everything. That's what's made our country what
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it is, the greatest middle class in the history of the world, because we have the idea of free market.
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And the family unit, a family that says this, we grow up teaching men to, boys to be boys,
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not girls, and girls to be girls, not boys. It's an important concept. And we have to recognize that
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that family structure of mom and dad fighting to have developed a place, a safe place for those
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kids to not only grow up and feel comfortable about themselves, but be proud of that name that
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they want to hold on to and pass to their grandkids or their kids. It's a simple concept in a family
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unit, getting it right, having men do what they're supposed to do to protect, provide, and give,
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and partner up with their wives to give good leadership. And mothers giving the greatest gift
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they can give to our country, compassion, love, service, those things that makes us the greatest
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nation because we have a great heart, comes from that power of motherhood. So once we get that
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together, those concepts, that's what Utah wants. That's what Utah has fought to have. And we have
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a candidate that's voted 85% against everything I just talked about, because he's a Pelosi guy.
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And that's what we don't want here. If he wants to be Pelosi guy, go to San Francisco or go to New
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York, but not Utah. We're going to continue to fight for our values here, for sure.
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You know, I'm really encouraged hearing you talk about the importance of faith in God and
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understanding where our rights come from and who our helper is and who our ultimate provider is,
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and also the structure of the family and the scientific and right and moral way to view gender.
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Because what I've seen, unfortunately, in some segments of the Republican Party that is represented
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in D.C., is a discomfort with talking about what they consider social issues. They don't want to
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talk about the controversial things that you just talked about because, oh, they think that's going
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to, you know, send the rage mob after them or going to polarize people. But what I'm hearing you say,
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and what I believe, too, is that you really can't talk about economic issues without talking about
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the spiritual, family, cultural issues as well. Would you agree with that?
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Absolutely. And to the point, remember that I just talked about earlier about this great
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community I grew up in. That was a reality. And it was a reality because of those things I just
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highlighted a few minutes ago. And if we're going to win our country back, which we will,
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we have courageous Americans who do not care about what other people think, but we care more about
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what's right, care about their kids and our future. And the fact is, it's now time for us to man up and
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women up. We are now at a point at a crossroad where we're fighting for our culture. We're
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fighting for our nation. We're fighting for our kids' future. If we don't have the courage to stand
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for them, then who have we become? We're not whiners, whinnies, and wimps. That's what happens
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when you start going to the left, become whiners, whinnies, and wimps. So let's make sure that we stand
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for those things that made our country great. Be proud of those who came before us. They weren't perfect,
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but neither are we. They did the best they could at the time they came through. And they gave us
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a gift, a country that's free, that allows us to have these kinds of conversations that I can,
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as a black man today, run for president if I want to, run a business, any business I want to,
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go to any movie theater I want to, that 50 years ago, 60 years ago, I could not have done.
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So we need to be proud of the progress that's made. And for those who want to divide us,
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look at them and see if they're happy with what they're doing. If they're unhappy people,
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if you lean on them and you go in their direction, guess what? You will be an unhappy person too.
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We need to be a hopeful and enthusiastic, excited, and appreciative nation of all those who paid the
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price so we have the freedom we have today to move forward. And let's fight for it. We fight for it
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very simply, not by going to the street and beating up with people with bricks and sticks.
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We go by going to that booth and pulling for hope and freedom. That's the Republican Party right now.
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Let's make sure the Republican Party owns the House, the Senate, and the presidency. And I can
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promise you we're going to see a renaissance the next four years that Americans have never thought
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they can see in their lifetime. People coming together, people winning again, getting jobs,
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having education for their kids, taking care of DACA, taking care of Social Security. All the
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things that have been out there that the leftists, the elitists on both sides have laid out there
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because they want misery as a political strategy. We're done with that. Americans now need to move
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forward. Let's move toward the light, guys. That's what we do best. Collectively, let's just win,
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baby, and get this thing done so we can make sure our country is a great place to pass on to our kids.
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Right. Well, if you create misery and resentment, then you can present yourself as the savior from
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those things. If you create problems, you present yourselves as the solution. I think that's what
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Democrats have done really effectively. They actually create problems with their government
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programs, and then they present themselves as a solution to those problems, not saying that they
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are actually the ones that created the problems in the first place. And obviously, that's a lot of
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manipulation that's worked well for the Democratic Party. It's sounding like you are trying to push
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back against that and expose that and to stop the cycle that a lot of communities in this country have
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found themselves in for decades. And it's very encouraging to hear your message of hope and
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optimism. And I certainly hope that all the things that you're talking about come true. It would be good
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for both sides of America, whether we agree or not.
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Well, can I say this, Allie? At the end of the day, we're looking at those who know what it is to
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build. What the Democratic Party has done, and you look at every city that they control, you don't see
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building. You see destruction. You see hopelessness. You see anger. If you want to see where systemic racism
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truly is, go to every single blue city in our nation, and you see where black people are not only the death
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and the death rates are so high. Abortion rates are so high. Employment rates are so high. This is what misery is,
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you find in an abundance. So it's kind of rich that it can tell us now—it's kind of rich they can tell us now
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how to come out of this when they have never understood how to build and come out of anything
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that they have been able to control. So let's look at the misery that's in these blue states,
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blue cities, Chicago, Ferguson, Baltimore, all these—Portland—and just know this is what the
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left does. They use destruction. They use misery. And then they tell us that they can some kind of way
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get us out of misery. And they can't do it if they've never built that way. So this is a good
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opportunity for us. The gray is gone. There's good, and there's evil. There's darkness. There's
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light. Let's move toward the light collectively, like we've always done. Let's show another miracle
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in 2020, like we did in 2016. And I tell you, again, my friends out there, this will be a
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remarkable four years. Just trust us on this process. We now know how the left works. Let's give
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conservatism a good shot at it. And we can see what we can do with this, I'm sure.
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And we say, you know, Democrat, Independent, or Republican, hop on board with us towards that
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better future. We don't, like you've said so well, we don't have to agree on everything. You don't have
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to be a Republican to see that optimistic vision of the future where we all are unified under particular
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principles. So it really is, even though you are a Republican, kind of a nonpartisan message. And I just
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want people to hear that, that we're seeing everyone come on board, no matter what letter is after your name.
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So I really appreciate that. Can you tell everyone how they can support you and where they can follow
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you? Absolutely. Go to Burgess4Utah.com, and you can see everything you need, including facts right
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now. Pelosi PAC is throwing millions of dollars, four to five million dollars at negatives. The
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facts can be there. And I can say to Ali, you just mentioned it, and I'm going to wrap it with this.
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This is a country of we the people. We thrive in having different conversations and different ways of
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going at things, but we have the same end game. Let's Democrats, Independents, and Republicans,
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let's come together at this time and talk about what makes our country better for business ownership,
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for faith, for family. And I tell you, we're going to find out we're not each other's enemy.
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It's the hard left, the ones who hate everything we're talking about. So let's come together as we
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the people, and let's make sure we move our country forward to a much, much better place for our
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kids, and we're going to be okay. I'm very excited about that opportunity to do so.
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Yes. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to me. I know everyone is going
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to enjoy this conversation. God bless you. I encourage everyone who is listening to this
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podcast, watching on YouTube, to not only support you and follow you, but also pray for you. We need
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to pray for everyone who is on the front lines of this, everyone who is running with the same kind
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of message that you are proffering right now. So again, thank you so much for taking the time
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amidst your busy schedule and for everything that you're fighting for.
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Ali, thank you so much. You're right. We're going to make this thing happen. We the people always have.
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I'm going to wrap it with one last three words.
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We do what Al Davis said years ago at the Raiders, just win, baby. That's what we do best. So