Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - November 05, 2020


Ep 323 | SPECIAL EPISODE: Election Update + God's Sovereignty


Episode Stats

Length

36 minutes

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178.28957

Word Count

6,446

Sentence Count

488

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

In this episode of Relatable, Pastor Carl Lentz answers the question, "Is God in control?" and gives us the most updated update on the latest results from the latest vote count in the presidential election. We also discuss a measure that passed in Colorado and what it means about the state of morality in this country.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. So I want to give you guys the most recent update that
00:00:14.560 I possibly can on what's going on. And then we are going to move to a couple other pieces
00:00:20.060 of news. We're going to talk about a measure in Colorado that passed, one that we're waiting
00:00:25.080 to pass, and what it just means about the state of morality in this country. We're also
00:00:29.100 going to talk about Pastor Carl Lentz from Hillsong NYC, something that has happened there.
00:00:35.180 And I want to answer this question that so many of you have been asking me. Is it okay
00:00:39.860 to say right now that God is in control? Obviously, we know that's true, but you've been hearing
00:00:45.500 a lot of professing Christians, particularly those that identify as Christians on the left,
00:00:51.060 say, no, no, no, that's something called spiritual bypassing. That is white privilege. You shouldn't
00:00:57.260 be talking about God's sovereignty right now when people's lives are on the line if Trump
00:01:01.840 wins. So we're going to talk about the theology of pushing back on the statement that God is
00:01:07.020 sovereign, what the Bible actually has to say about that. So let me give you the most recent
00:01:11.340 numbers. Again, this is changing moment by moment. So by the time this comes out, it could
00:01:15.100 be slightly different. I got on Instagram yesterday and gave you the most updated update that I
00:01:20.460 could. I'll do that again today if I have to. So as of right now, as I am recording, we are still
00:01:27.000 waiting on the state of Georgia, 49.6 percent for Trump, 49.2 percent for Biden with 99 percent
00:01:35.940 reporting. Now, no matter what happens, even if Trump pulls this out, it is still too close for
00:01:42.020 comfort in Georgia. If Trump takes Georgia with that narrow of a margin, it is very likely if they
00:01:48.460 have to that team Biden will ask for a recount if it's looking like that could mean that Trump would
00:01:54.340 win. And I'll talk about what actually has to happen for Trump to get to 270 electoral votes and
00:01:59.960 take the presidency. So that's where we are in Georgia. I've been saying for a couple of weeks
00:02:05.500 now that Georgia was going to turn blue and all these people rolled their eyes at me. They said
00:02:09.840 that's impossible. Well, even if it goes red, it's obviously very possible for Georgia to go blue.
00:02:15.640 So the feeling that I had when I was driving from North Georgia to the other side of Georgia that,
00:02:22.640 hey, that's there's a lot of Biden signs in rural Georgia. This is really crazy. It was it was a
00:02:29.860 correct feeling. It was a correct observation and a correct vibe. Georgia is turning into a purple
00:02:37.040 state. Now, this maybe it's just a fluke. This election, maybe it'll go back red. I hope so. I genuinely
00:02:43.360 do. But obviously, there are some political changes going on in Georgia that we really need to pay
00:02:49.260 attention to. We're still waiting on Pennsylvania right now. As I'm as I'm recording this, it's 50.5%
00:02:56.120 for Trump, 48.4% for Biden with 87% reporting. The Trump team is optimistic about this. But because
00:03:03.820 of the counties that are still reporting have yet to report, team Biden is also optimistic about this,
00:03:10.620 that this will end up going in the way of Biden. Arizona has already been called for Biden. It's
00:03:16.220 been called for Biden for a couple of days. It's 50.5% for Biden, 48.1% for Trump with 88%
00:03:23.480 reporting. Trump team, even though Arizona has been called, is actually optimistic about Arizona.
00:03:30.580 And there are outlets actually saying that, you know, the other outlets who have called Arizona need to
00:03:36.080 retract their calling of Arizona. But again, the outlets who have already called it are doubling
00:03:40.960 down and saying, look, there's just no way that Trump can pull this out in Arizona. However,
00:03:46.020 the Trump team is saying, yes, there is. Yes, there is. Yes, there is. So we'll see about that. It seems
00:03:51.700 to me like Arizona is going to stay for Biden. Michigan has already been called for Biden,
00:03:56.660 50.6% for Biden, 47.6% for Trump with 99% reporting. I've seen a lot of conservatives say,
00:04:04.540 hey, why are they calling Michigan? If you look at the Michigan voting website, it shows that President
00:04:11.160 Trump is ahead of Biden. So why is there this discrepancy? But if you look more closely at the
00:04:16.060 details on the Michigan site, what you'll see is that they don't have the most updated counts
00:04:21.020 on their website. They are like a million behind. And so that's not really that is a discrepancy,
00:04:28.880 but it's not necessarily an indication of dishonesty by the media. The website is just not
00:04:36.460 quite updated yet. Apparently now. Well, I'll get to the recounts in just a second. Wisconsin called
00:04:43.040 for Biden, 49.6 for Biden, 48.9% for Trump with 99% reporting. Nevada, too close to call with 75%
00:04:54.040 reporting. North Carolina, Trump ahead with 94% reporting, but again, too close to call. So
00:05:00.780 here's what Trump needs to win the presidency. He needs Nevada. He needs Georgia. He needs Pennsylvania.
00:05:06.260 He needs North Carolina. So he needs all the states that are in question right now,
00:05:10.000 even if he ends up officially losing Arizona, which a lot of people, of course, would say that he already
00:05:14.500 has officially lost Arizona, but they are still counting votes. If you live in Arizona, I think
00:05:19.500 you can actually look up the state of your ballot. I know a lot of people, Republicans in particular,
00:05:23.660 that have looked up the state of their ballot and it hasn't been counted yet or it hasn't been marked
00:05:27.740 as counted yet. And so I think that you can look that up just to check. So Trump needs all of those
00:05:35.940 states. And then he would get to 270 and some change or he could win via recounts. The Trump
00:05:43.960 campaign has filed lawsuits in Wisconsin, Michigan and Georgia. They want to act in Pennsylvania as
00:05:50.640 well, but it's a little bit of a different situation there. And what they're hoping for
00:05:54.420 is better access to the polling process to make sure that only legal votes are counted. And that is
00:06:00.120 the big contention here. So the left Democrats keep saying count every vote and the right isn't
00:06:08.420 saying the opposite of that. But we are adding an adjective count every legal vote. And the reason
00:06:14.580 why we are making that distinction is because we keep seeing stories proper or crop up. And I haven't
00:06:21.600 I haven't been retweeting all of these stories. I haven't been reposting all of them because it's
00:06:26.840 hard to personally verify every single one. But there are so many stories. Some of them actually
00:06:32.920 have been verified of crumpling up ballots, people receiving ballots that like absentee ballots after
00:06:42.540 they have moved out from a state. There are reports and this is actually verifiable. You can look up I
00:06:50.020 think it's in Michigan's database. You can look up the name of a person that you know died and it'll show
00:06:55.460 you their voter status. And in some cases, people who have been deceased for a long time, the online
00:07:02.060 indicates that they voted. So dead people are voting. There's been 100 to 200 percent voter turnout
00:07:07.940 in some states, which literally is impossible. People, like I said, getting absentee ballots when they
00:07:15.560 don't even live in the state that is sending them the absentee ballot. There are ballot dumps,
00:07:21.040 voting dumps that are all toward one candidate. It seems to be all for Joe Biden. And so all of a
00:07:27.420 sudden, it seems like a state will find like twenty three thousand votes and not a single one of them
00:07:31.960 will be for a third party or Trump. And so that is why people are having some questions here in Detroit
00:07:37.440 where they're counting votes. They were covering up the windows and the room where they were counting
00:07:41.800 votes. Well, no, this is supposed to be a transparent process. And apparently also every time
00:07:47.940 a GOP poll or a poll worker got kicked out, there were left wing activists there with their Black
00:07:54.500 Lives Matter T-shirts on cheering for it. So this is not supposed to be a partisan process. We've also
00:08:00.120 seen vote counters in some of these states wearing Biden masks. You're not supposed to have any kind
00:08:05.580 partisan paraphernalia in these rooms. This is supposed to be a nonpartisan process. It's obviously not a
00:08:12.740 nonpartisan process in some places. As we talked about in Wednesday's episode, the AG of Pennsylvania
00:08:20.120 already said days before the election that if every vote is counted, Trump will lose. And he wants to
00:08:25.560 make sure of that. That is really troubling. Project Veritas, a whistleblower, said that poll workers
00:08:40.440 were falsely backdating absentee ballots for November 3rd so that they could be counted. That
00:08:46.820 was in Michigan. That was a USPS insider that told that to Project Veritas. Again, we don't know if
00:08:54.460 that's true, but that is the testimony of this one person. And all of this adds up to at least a
00:09:01.280 justified desire to ask questions and investigate. We never thought that Trump was just going to lose
00:09:07.400 easily, that he was just going to let this go. Of course, there's going to be recounts in places
00:09:12.880 where there needs to be recounts. And that is what he is doing in some of these states where it is just
00:09:18.400 it's just a razor thin margin by which he seems to have lost. He just wants to verify it. Biden,
00:09:26.480 I guarantee you, they'd be doing the same thing. Hillary Clinton called for recounts in 2016.
00:09:32.180 Like I said, I think Biden would, if he has to call for a recount, if he loses by a razor thin
00:09:37.560 margin in somewhere like Georgia, and he actually needs those electoral votes to win. Here's what I say.
00:09:43.520 I actually care about fairness in this election much more than I care about Trump winning. So no
00:09:48.480 matter the results of the election, I want us to make sure that we root out corruption and that we
00:09:53.580 root out fraud. That is more important to me. In my opinion, that has much longer, longer lasting
00:09:59.380 implications than who wins the presidency. So even if Biden wins, we need to root out the corruption and
00:10:05.380 the fraud. We need to make sure the dead people are not voting. Like we need to make sure that we are
00:10:11.040 only counting legal votes. And the fact that there are people on the left, there are Democrats on the
00:10:15.340 left pushing back on that and saying, no, no, no, you just need to count all votes no matter what.
00:10:20.760 Well, I would say that's a problem. I very much care about the integrity of this election more than I
00:10:25.640 have been praying for Trump to win or any kind of outcome. I have been praying that the process would
00:10:33.300 be honorable, that it would end up being honest. We know in a lot of cases it's not honest right now,
00:10:38.420 but that is my desire for honesty and integrity and honor in the process. Even if Biden, even if Biden
00:10:45.140 wins, especially if Biden wins, I just want to know that he won fair and square. I want to go explore all
00:10:52.060 the avenues that we possibly can just to make sure that the process is being done with integrity. If Biden
00:10:58.820 wins just because he won all of the electoral votes fair and square, then so be it. We accept the results of the
00:11:05.540 election and we move on. Whatever. That's fine. That's obviously not the outcome that I wanted and
00:11:10.600 that many of us wanted. But that's the way it is. We go through political disappointment. There's a
00:11:16.240 possibility of that every four years, of course. But I just want to make sure that he wins fairly. I also
00:11:22.980 want to make sure that Trump wins fairly. If Trump wins, we don't need to stop talking about corruption
00:11:28.060 and potential fraud. We need to make sure that our election process is protected. And for the people
00:11:34.500 that say on the left that are saying, oh, that's just fear mongering. Y'all are just paranoid. You're just
00:11:39.340 sore losers. Excuse me. Excuse me. You are the same people who have not accepted the results of the
00:11:45.580 2016 election. OK. And for the past four years, you have been saying that Trump's election was actually it was
00:11:53.240 it was illegitimate, that it was actually just Russian collusion, that there was actually Russian
00:11:59.080 interference that caused him to win. And there is no proof of that whatsoever. And so for us to say,
00:12:06.920 hey, there seems to be evidence of fraud. There's at least reason for us to ask some questions and to
00:12:12.760 seek some recounts in some of these states. That's not at all paranoid. That's very sane. That's just
00:12:18.940 making sure that whoever wins, whether it's Joe or whether it's Donald Trump, that they win fairly and
00:12:24.860 squarely. That is all we're saying. You guys have been trying to delegitimize Trump's presidency and
00:12:32.740 Trump's victory for the past four years. So I don't want to hear any of that from you guys' accusations
00:12:37.680 of being paranoid and being sore losers when you guys haven't even conceded the 2016 election.
00:12:44.420 There also seems to be some confusion about why Trump is saying we need to stop the votes in some
00:12:50.060 places and we need to keep counting in other places. And people are saying, oh, my gosh,
00:12:54.460 she's just losing his mind. Kimberly Strassel of the Wall Street Journal, she's a really great
00:12:59.640 follow. She explains all of this in a tweet thread. She says this. A lot of folks are saying incorrectly
00:13:05.160 GOP wants to both count and stop ballots at the same time. Let's be more precise. There are three
00:13:10.340 categories. A, ours calling to count votes that came in by election day or before per state law.
00:13:17.700 This is obvious. B, ours calling to halt votes until GOP observers given access to vote counting.
00:13:25.120 No one is suggesting these votes not be counted, only that ours be allowed to witness the counting.
00:13:31.180 Why not? Transparency is good. We'll raise confidence in the outcome. I agree with that.
00:13:36.400 It will raise confidence in the outcome no matter what happens. C, ours questioning states that want to
00:13:42.940 count votes that contravene state law on deadlines, etc. Like in Pennsylvania, for example,
00:13:49.080 they have said that you are allowed to count ballots that aren't even postmarked. And so
00:13:53.640 we don't know where they came from in some of those cases. But more importantly, we don't know when they
00:13:59.740 were actually filled out. If they're filled out after election day, they are illegitimate. They should
00:14:04.840 be illegitimate. The left is claiming this is disenfranchisement. But why? Laws are laws. We are all
00:14:11.020 expected to follow them. And why should some states get extra judicially granted privileges,
00:14:16.860 not others? The left is saying count every vote. I completely agree, but I would modify count every
00:14:23.540 legal vote as defined by the state legislatures. We elect them for a reason. This cannot and should
00:14:30.200 not turn into a fight over what laws will get overruled to benefit one side. That is exactly right,
00:14:36.380 especially in the midst of the election process. The time is coming gone for all of those decisions
00:14:41.640 to be made. Let's just make sure that every legal vote is counted and that every vote that is counted
00:14:48.680 is legal. That really shouldn't be that difficult. This process is so inefficient. It's so ineffective.
00:14:55.360 We are losing trust, obviously, in the pollsters, obviously, in the media, obviously, in our politicians.
00:15:00.080 We already knew all of that. But we're also losing faith in our election process to be fair,
00:15:07.460 to be free. And you really don't live in a free country if you cannot trust the election process
00:15:13.160 to actually reflect the will of the people and actually reflect any kind of integrity.
00:15:19.840 We have very good reason to doubt that the Democrats would be running the election process
00:15:37.200 in some of these places with integrity. We have very good reason to believe that. I mean,
00:15:42.060 if we look at the ideology, the leftist ideology that drives so much of the Democratic Party,
00:15:47.900 if we look at the rhetoric that has been coming from the left for the past four years,
00:15:52.040 it's that Trump is a Nazi, that he is the greatest threat to not just America, but the world.
00:15:57.000 All of his supporters are at least complicit, if not outright guilty of white supremacy,
00:16:01.540 that he is a fascist, that his followers are fascists, and that we must do absolutely anything
00:16:07.000 to get him out of office. We've seen him try to, the Democrats tried to impeach him. They tried
00:16:14.340 to say that he was an illegitimate president. They tried to say that he was a Russian agent. There
00:16:19.340 was the whole Russian investigation that amounted to absolutely nothing. We've seen
00:16:23.220 rioting in the streets. We've seen harassment of Trump supporters. We've seen Trump supporters
00:16:28.200 targeted with threats of violence. And so we've got a party who might not be holistically
00:16:34.240 characterized like this, but a large chunk of them are characterized by an ends justify the means
00:16:42.020 mentality. And so, of course, a little ballot harvesting and a little fraud is worth it if
00:16:47.620 that means getting an actual Nazi, what they believe to be an actual Nazi, out of office. I mean,
00:16:53.900 they've compared Trump to Hitler. If you actually believe that Hitler was running the country,
00:16:59.280 wouldn't you throw out some ballots from the people that voted for him? And so we don't know. We don't
00:17:04.940 know. But all I'm saying is there is a reason. There is enough reason for people to question
00:17:10.520 and for people to want to be vigilant about protecting the integrity of our elections. There's
00:17:16.020 absolutely reason for people to be skeptical. Now, if all the investigations come out and the recounts
00:17:22.340 come out and Biden wins, then like I said, we accept the results of that. We move on. We don't reflect
00:17:28.760 the craziness, the unhinged nature that we have seen for the past four years from the left. We don't
00:17:35.320 say, that's not my president. I'm never accepting the results of this election. Let's try to impeach
00:17:40.500 him from the beginning. Let's lose our minds and suffer from Biden derangement syndrome. No, no,
00:17:47.400 no. Politics are not our God. The president is not our savior. Our joy is not derived from a political
00:17:53.760 outcome. Yes, those things matter. Obviously, you guys know I think those things are significant.
00:17:59.700 As I've said, politics matter because policies matter because people matter and policies affect
00:18:05.780 people. And so you don't have to explain to me the significance of elections and the significance
00:18:10.000 of politics and policies. I already know all of those things. But I'm not going to lose my mind
00:18:17.240 if Biden wins. I'm not going to weep and gnash my teeth if Biden wins. I mean, I lived through eight
00:18:22.880 years of the worst, one of the worst presidencies in history, Barack Obama's. And we survived. I think
00:18:29.520 America is a lot worse off because of it. That's tangible. We've talked about the quantifiable ways
00:18:34.880 America worsened while Barack Obama was president. But we survived. We'll survive this time. Do I think
00:18:41.240 that we are on the precipice of totalitarianism? If if Democrats were to take take the presidency and
00:18:50.220 take the Senate? Yes, I do. I think that they have been very clear about that, that they want to pack
00:18:54.640 the court, that they want to abolish the Electoral College. They would love to reconfigure the Senate.
00:19:00.360 They want to do away with the Constitution. They think the First Amendment should be limited. The
00:19:05.540 Second Amendment should be abolished. They don't believe in the constitutional and the constitutional
00:19:11.200 norms and the institutional integrity of our country. They don't they don't care. They don't
00:19:17.600 care about those things. They actually believe that America is fundamentally bad, that it needs to be
00:19:23.060 torn down and then rebuilt with something new. And so, of course, I believe that we are headed
00:19:28.720 towards the direction of authoritarianism, as Roger and I talked about, if Democrats take control.
00:19:35.420 Even so, even so, we don't let that steal our joy and steal our peace. And we'll go into more of that
00:19:42.520 a little bit more in just a second. But first, I got to talk about the Senate. So you've probably been
00:19:47.940 hearing that the Senate looks good for Republicans, but we are waiting on some things that should probably
00:19:54.740 make us a little bit nervous as conservatives. This is honestly what I'm more concerned about.
00:19:58.880 I'm far more concerned about the Senate than I am the presidency. If Donald Trump loses, but
00:20:03.200 Republicans keep this in it, it's going to be very hard for Joe Biden to get anything done.
00:20:08.900 It's going to be very difficult for him to get cabinet members approved, especially radical cabinet
00:20:13.720 members. It's going to be very difficult for him to get judicial nominees approved, which is good
00:20:17.960 for conservatives. It's going to be very difficult for him to get any of the legislation that he
00:20:23.140 approves of past. And so we want Republicans to keep the Senate, even if, especially if Donald Trump
00:20:31.760 loses. So the Senate does look good for Republicans. Cocaine Mitch, he is still in charge, and that's
00:20:38.840 great. And right now, it looks like Republicans are going to keep the majority. But the recounts could
00:20:44.180 affect the makeup of the Senate, could affect it for the better, possibly the worst. It could be that
00:20:49.080 a recount in Michigan means that John James wins, but probably not. Unfortunately, he lost.
00:20:58.100 So sad. I think that he would be a great senator, and I hope he keeps running. We are waiting on some
00:21:03.760 things in Georgia. So we're waiting on Perdue versus Ossoff. Perdue is the Republican. Ossoff
00:21:08.160 is the Democrat. It's very close, but Perdue is leading right now in Georgia. There's going to be a
00:21:13.460 special election. Loeffler versus Warnock in Georgia. That's going to be in January. So Loeffler
00:21:19.640 won her election, and it's going because this was a very strange race. She was against Doug Collins
00:21:28.900 and I think one other person. And so she's going to run against Warnock in January. I'm not feeling
00:21:35.080 really great about that race. I think Warnock, I mean, he's a radical leftist from Atlanta. He would
00:21:41.320 be a terrible senator for Georgia, but I think it's very possible that he beats Loeffler. Loeffler
00:21:46.960 has been accused of corruption at the beginning of this year, at the beginning of coronavirus. I am
00:21:52.680 shocked that she won against Doug Collins. I really like Doug Collins a lot, and I was disappointed in
00:22:00.720 the outcome of that race. Of course, Loeffler versus Warnock. I'm going to go for Loeffler, absolutely,
00:22:06.460 100%. But I was surprised. I was surprised at the people who voted for her, knowing some of the
00:22:13.820 things that we know about her. I don't think it's possible for her to win against Warnock. I hope
00:22:18.140 that I'm wrong. I really hope and pray that I am. But I don't think that she has as strong of a
00:22:25.320 chance, probably, as Doug Collins did. We're waiting for Tom Tillis versus Cal Cunningham in North Carolina.
00:22:31.260 Tom Tillis is the Republican. Cal Cunningham is the Democrat. It's looking okay for Tillis, but
00:22:36.320 we are apparently not going to know the result of the North Carolina election until November 11th,
00:22:43.340 especially for the presidency. Don't know why. Apparently, some of these vote counters are like,
00:22:49.060 I'm busy. I'm tired. I'm going to kind of chill out for a while. So here's the deal. So we've got the
00:22:55.360 two races in Georgia that we're waiting on. We've got the one race in North Carolina that we're waiting
00:22:59.660 on. I don't know how long we're going to be waiting on them. If Democrats win both Senate
00:23:03.880 races in Georgia and the Senate race in North Carolina, that gives them the majority in the
00:23:08.060 Senate with 49 Democrats and two independents that caucus with Democrats. So that's 51.
00:23:14.120 So that gives them the slight majority. If Democrats win, say, two of those races,
00:23:19.720 they'll be at 50. Republicans will be at 50. And then the presidency matters very much because the
00:23:26.580 vice president is the tiebreaker vote, which will be either Mike Pence or Kamala Harris, depending
00:23:31.760 on who wins. So we really need Republicans to win all three of those Senate races. So if you are going
00:23:38.460 to pray for an outcome, that is the outcome that I would spend your time praying on. Okay, speaking of
00:23:46.240 prayer, let's talk about this statement, God is sovereign or God is in control, because I've seen a lot
00:23:52.220 of people triggered by that statement. I've been seeing a lot of posts going around, typically from
00:23:58.260 left-wing identifying Christians, social justice identifying Christians that are saying, oh, that's
00:24:04.560 something called spiritual bypassing. You are ignoring the real suffering and the real danger
00:24:09.960 that is threatening the lives of marginalized people if Donald Trump wins. And so please don't just
00:24:17.480 kind of gloss over their suffering and their pain and their fear by saying that God is in control.
00:24:25.920 You've heard people say, oh, well, you know, God was in control during the Holocaust, but people still
00:24:30.180 suffered and died. God was in control during all of these terrible things that have happened throughout
00:24:34.680 history, and people still died and suffered. Yes, all of that is true. Number one, let's not compare
00:24:42.180 those things to what is happening right now. We are going through an election where the candidate,
00:24:46.040 that you might not like, will win. That's really different. And there's not going to be, and I know
00:24:52.720 people get mad when I say this, but if Donald Trump wins, like your rights are not going away. They
00:24:58.880 haven't gone away for the past four years. People say, oh, there's people who are going to die if Donald
00:25:03.600 Trump wins. Who? Who and how? Through what policy that he is advocating for? I mean, we already have the
00:25:11.100 Supreme Court that you don't like. I mean, what's Donald Trump going to do that is going to take away
00:25:16.760 your life and livelihood, lower your taxes? I mean, there's just not a whole lot of explanation for that.
00:25:22.200 So let us try to not make the comparison between something like the Holocaust and then something like
00:25:28.920 your politician possibly losing an election. But the question is, should we be saying that God is in
00:25:35.140 control when we are in a crisis? My answer to that is absolutely yes. Now, as I said on Instagram, saying
00:25:41.580 that God is in control as an excuse for complacency, as an excuse for apathy and paralysis and not doing
00:25:48.160 anything is a sin. Obviously, saying that God is sovereign is not an excuse for disobedience. It's not an
00:25:55.680 excuse for laziness. It's not an excuse for us not to take things seriously. You guys know, I think it is our
00:26:01.580 right, and it is our privilege. It's our responsibility as human beings, especially as
00:26:05.820 Christians, as good stewards of the time and the resources that God has given us, the freedom that
00:26:10.560 God has given us. It is our responsibility to use that wisely for the good of our families and for the
00:26:16.100 good of other people. And I think one of those things is voting and being involved in politics.
00:26:20.200 As I already said on this episode, politics matter because policies matter because people matter.
00:26:24.980 And so we know all of that. But in light of the gospel, our attitude towards those things
00:26:32.620 changes. And so when we say that God is sovereign, that God is in control, that Jesus is going to rule
00:26:39.220 in perfect peace, that he is seated immovably on his throne, and that he's not freaking out. He's not
00:26:44.720 surprised. He's not wondering what's going to happen. Matthew 10 says that all the hairs on our head
00:26:49.380 are numbered. And so I know that he has every vote number too. When we say those things, we are not
00:26:56.180 saying that policies don't matter. We are not saying that there won't be consequences to the
00:27:00.500 election or that it doesn't matter and that we should just ignore it and that we should just say,
00:27:04.540 la, la, la. We're just going to ignore the reality of what's going on here on earth. No, we are saying
00:27:11.360 that we view everything that's going on here on earth in light of the hope that we have in heaven.
00:27:17.520 The Bible says that we are citizens of heaven. If you are a Christian, we are not citizens of this
00:27:22.880 earth. We are exiles on earth. We are strangers dwelling in this land, but our citizenship,
00:27:29.460 our dwelling place, our hope, our membership is ultimately in heaven. And so we view everything
00:27:36.160 that's happening in that light. That gives us assurance. That gives us peace. That gives us serenity.
00:27:43.520 Yes. Even when the trials are real, even when the tribulations are heavy, Jesus promises that we will
00:27:50.080 have trouble in this life, but he says, take heart. I have overcome the world. And so that is where our
00:27:57.060 victory ultimately lies. So when we say that God is sovereign, we are simply saying, take heart,
00:28:03.660 take heart. The Jesus that you trust in, that you follow has already overcome the world. And he has
00:28:08.520 promised that he is going to claim ultimate victory once and for all, and that there will be no more
00:28:14.800 elections. There will be no partisan politics. There will be no, there will be no division. There
00:28:20.640 will be no depression. There will be no sadness. And so as we care about the things that are going on
00:28:27.380 in this life, as we care about elections, as we vote, as we seek the truth, as we obey the Lord and do
00:28:34.280 the work that he has called us to do, we have hope. We have peace. The phrase that God is in control
00:28:40.340 or God is sovereign should not be triggering to the, to the Christian. It should not be triggering.
00:28:46.380 It should be relieving. And if it is, if the phrase God is in control or God is sovereign is
00:28:52.580 triggering to you as a Christian, that's not the fault of the person who said it. That should be an
00:28:58.240 indication for you to take a look at your theology. Is God your God or are politics your God? Is your
00:29:03.920 hope in this life or the next one? Because as Christians, we know where our hope is supposed
00:29:08.000 to be. And it is biblical that in the midst of serious trials, of serious tribulations,
00:29:14.120 far more serious than what we're going through right now, to rejoice in the Lord, to remind
00:29:19.100 ourselves of his sovereignty. That is what the Bible is about. We see it over and over again,
00:29:23.620 that God's people throughout the Bible went through much more difficult than what we are going
00:29:27.980 through right now. Christians throughout history have gone through much more difficult than what we are
00:29:32.300 going through right now. And yet they praised God and they trusted in his absolute controlling
00:29:39.320 goodness. Let's read Romans 8, 35 through 37. Most of you know this passage. Who shall separate us from
00:29:45.420 the love of Christ? Shall tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or
00:29:50.760 sword? As it is written, for your sake, we are being killed all the day long. We are regarded as sheep to
00:29:56.420 be slaughtered. No, in all these things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am sure
00:30:02.760 that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor
00:30:07.340 height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ
00:30:12.520 Jesus, our Lord. Philippians 4, 4 through 7. Rejoice in the Lord always. Rejoice in the Lord always. Again, I will say
00:30:20.220 rejoice. Let your reasonableness be made known to everyone. The Lord is at hand. Do not be anxious
00:30:26.160 about anything, God says. Do not be anxious about anything. When he says anything, he means anything.
00:30:32.960 You think he doesn't know what you're going through right now? He does. But in everything, by prayer and
00:30:38.620 supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which
00:30:43.140 surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. James 1, 2. Count it all joy,
00:30:49.000 my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds. For you know that the tasking of your faith produces
00:30:54.740 steadfastness. Psalm 37, 1 through 2. Fret not yourself because of evildoers. Be not envious of
00:31:01.880 wrongdoers. So we're talking about people who do evil. God is saying, don't worry about them. Don't
00:31:07.380 be envious of them, even when it seems like things are going their way. Do not fret yourself. It says,
00:31:12.100 do not fret yourself because of evildoers, for they will soon fade like the grass and wither like the
00:31:16.560 green herb. So that is our hope being in heaven, even when we are seeing evil done right now.
00:31:21.920 Trust in the Lord and do good. Dwell in the land and befriend faithfulness. That is our command.
00:31:26.980 Even when we see evil going on. Even when we are going through trials. Psalm 27, 3. Though an army
00:31:33.120 encamp against me, my heart shall not fear. Though war arise against me, yet I will be confident. Those are
00:31:40.340 just a few examples that we see throughout scripture of God's people in the midst of serious trials,
00:31:46.700 in the midst of chaos, in the midst of confusion, in the midst of severe persecution, far beyond what
00:31:51.480 we are experiencing right now. Saying, I trust God. God is in control. He loves me. He takes care of me.
00:31:59.280 He is still good. He is still righteous. He is on his throne. And my hope is in him. He is my refuge.
00:32:06.180 He is my strength. The Lord is my light and my salvation. Whom shall I fear? That's another verse
00:32:12.700 in the Psalms. These are people who were going through much more fear invoking things than we
00:32:20.740 are right now. And the Bible says, what are you to do in that time? You're to trust in God's
00:32:25.540 sovereignty. So again, if that phrase, trust God, God is in control. God is sovereign. It's triggering to
00:32:33.320 you as a Christian rather than assuring and rather than peace giving to you, then it is time
00:32:42.520 to assess your theology. What do you think about God? What do you think about who he is and what
00:32:49.100 he can do? Where is your citizenship? Where is your hope? That doesn't mean, again, that we don't care
00:32:55.200 about what's going on and we don't care about what happens to people. We don't care about this election
00:32:59.120 our policies. Again, we do, but we don't worry about them in perpetual anxiety. We don't allow
00:33:06.220 those things to depress us. We don't allow those things to steal our joy because that's not where
00:33:10.560 our joy comes from. And if it is where your joy comes from, then you have made an idol of this life.
00:33:16.120 And that's the beautiful thing about Christianity is that we are free from the idolatry of this life.
00:33:20.240 And so, yes, God is sovereign. God is in control. Jesus is king. He is on his throne. That's not
00:33:29.340 spiritual bypassing. That is spiritual encouragement for the true Christian.
00:33:33.320 Speaking of Christianity, and this is the last thing that I want to talk about.
00:33:46.680 Carl Lentz, he was the Hillsong pastor in NYC. According to Religion News Service,
00:33:57.880 he was fired because of leadership issues and breaches of trust, plus a recent revelation of
00:34:04.420 moral failure. So we don't have the details on all of that. Hillsong isn't releasing the details
00:34:10.200 on all of that. And quite frankly, we don't need to know the details on all of that. It's not any of
00:34:13.980 our business, and we shouldn't be gloating about this. This isn't something that we should rejoice over
00:34:20.180 or be happy about. This is obviously going to be very difficult for their church. And the reason why I
00:34:26.320 give you that kind of warning and I give you that admonition is because I know it's tempting for a
00:34:31.780 lot of people who disagree with Carl Lentz politically and theologically, like I do so much,
00:34:38.900 to, you know, it would be tempting for you maybe to be happy about this or to gloat about this publicly
00:34:46.340 on social media. But of course, that is not what we are called to. Our desire should be for Carl Lentz to
00:34:51.560 repent, for him to be drawn to the Lord and to be filled with the spirit of truth. I mean, we have
00:34:58.100 been seeing over the past few months how Carl Lentz, unfortunately, has been evangelized by the
00:35:04.700 world when it comes to things like social justice, when it comes to things like critical race theory,
00:35:09.500 bad theology and bad politics, they don't happen in a vacuum. There are obviously a lot of other heart
00:35:15.200 issues going on here. And I can't say it's terribly surprising just seeing a lot of the things that he has
00:35:20.360 shared over the past few months in regards to a lot of the political events that are going on that
00:35:27.880 are just contra to scripture, contra to any kind of good theology. Unfortunately, that's what happens.
00:35:34.420 Good on Hillsong NYC for taking this step. And again, we pray for Carl Lentz and his family and pray that
00:35:44.140 the Lord draws him close and draws him into repentance. And then we also pray for Hillsong NYC.
00:35:49.520 And we pray that they find a solid pastor that can lead them, shepherd them in spirit and in truth,
00:35:56.980 and that the Holy Spirit would work in that church and would draw more and more people to himself.
00:36:04.540 And so that's all I wanted to talk about today. Just a quick update. We will be back here on Monday.