Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 324 ｜ Possible Victory & Impossible Unity

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend. So as

00:00:14.640 you can tell, today's episode's a little bit different. Typically, our episodes come

00:00:18.140 out first thing in the morning because we record them earlier. We record them the day

00:00:22.980 before. But because there's so much breaking news and I want to give you the most relevant

00:00:27.480 analysis possible, it's necessary for us to record these episodes day of and then for

00:00:32.640 them to come out later in the day. I'm sorry if that causes any inconvenience. We will get

00:00:36.940 back to our regularly scheduled programming pretty soon. Today, we are going to talk about

00:00:44.520 the latest in the election. We are going to interview a Trump administration lawyer, Jenna

00:00:49.920 Ellis. She's going to tell us about the fraud allegations and the litigation process, what

00:00:54.440 we can expect over the next few weeks. We're also going to talk some theology. We're going

00:00:58.780 to talk about God's sovereign will versus his moral will, how he sets up kings, removes kings,

00:01:03.740 and how Christians should react and what we should be doing in all of this as we face the

00:01:09.660 potential of a new president. And then we're going to talk about some of the reaction to

00:01:16.020 the election and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris being projected as the new president and vice president

00:01:24.840 and the call to unity and whether or not that is possible. So we've got a jam-packed episode

00:01:31.860 for today. But first, let's talk to Jenna Ellis. Jenna, thank you so much for joining me.

00:01:39.180 Thanks so much, Allie. This is a really important time for our nation.

00:01:42.180 Yes, it is. Can you tell everyone who might not know who you are and what you do?

00:01:47.080 Yeah, thank you. So I'm the senior legal advisor to the Trump 2020 campaign and also a personal

00:01:52.440 attorney to President Donald Trump. And so throughout the campaign, of course, I've been advising on

00:01:57.640 the legal and now moving forward into the post-election season. Of course, we are looking

00:02:03.980 at election integrity issues. My background, of course, is in constitutional law and litigation.

00:02:09.100 And I'm also a senior fellow with the Falkirk Center at Liberty University, of course,

00:02:14.820 where you and I, Allie, got to meet a few weeks ago. So that was really exciting as well.

00:02:19.400 Yes. Can you tell everyone about this, the election integrity issues that we're going through right

00:02:25.480 now? Because what we keep hearing over and over again is that there's no evidence of fraud

00:02:30.020 and that there's no reason for us not to just accept Joe Biden as the president-elect.

00:02:36.320 Can you kind of go through some of the allegations of fraud that you guys are seeing in different

00:02:41.300 states? Yeah. So first, from a top level perspective, what people have to understand

00:02:47.000 is that our system in the U.S. Constitution is for free and fair elections. We, the people,

00:02:54.380 get to select and prefer who our leaders are. And that has been a principle since the founding of our

00:03:00.180 country. And so what happens is that when we vote, then of course, once those votes are tallied

00:03:07.900 legally correctly, states then have to certify the vote tally. And then that's when the slates of

00:03:16.240 delegates for the Electoral College are actually chosen by the state legislatures, who then will

00:03:22.280 cast their vote for the Electoral College this year on December 8th. And then that actually is how we get

00:03:30.180 to the election of the president of the United States. So what's happened in our election this

00:03:35.880 year is that we don't actually know the certifications and how the tallies are tabulated

00:03:43.780 in at least five different states. And so what the mainstream media has done is just projected

00:03:49.720 that Joe Biden is the winner. They have just allocated over 270, which of course is the mark

00:03:56.500 that's needed of the Electoral College to Joe Biden. And then they're calling him president-elect.

00:04:01.460 But it's important to remember that no state yet has actually certified their results. And particularly

00:04:07.180 when we're looking at these critical five states, which are Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia,

00:04:14.060 and Pennsylvania. Those states, of course, all together have a significant value of electoral votes.

00:04:21.160 And we have recounts that will happen likely in, for sure, actually, in Pennsylvania and Georgia.

00:04:29.220 And then Michigan, we're hearing reports this morning that their legislature has actually opened

00:04:34.260 an investigation of fraud in that state. Arizona is a razor-thin margin of these vote tallies.

00:04:42.000 And we're also seeing in Pennsylvania, of course, that the process did not occur according to the state

00:04:48.100 law. And so what's happened in Pennsylvania is that the state legislature has never acted to change

00:04:54.480 the law to allow for late votes to be counted. And so anything that came in and was received

00:05:00.940 past 7 p.m. on Election Day, November 3rd, the state law says those votes cannot legally be counted.

00:05:09.700 And so when you actually tally the votes, that state should properly go to President Trump. That's 20

00:05:16.700 electoral votes. So what our lawsuits are challenging broadly is to make sure that every legal vote

00:05:24.420 is counted fairly and accurately. Any illegal vote, duplicative, dead people voting, non-residents

00:05:32.640 voting, late ballots, spoiled ballots, any illegal ballots, anything that it should not properly under

00:05:40.160 the law be counted should be excluded. And then any of these processes have to happen according to state

00:05:47.240 law. And so, Ali, just like we saw in 2000 with the presidential election between George W. Bush and Al

00:05:54.920 Gore, there was only one state in question then, the state of Florida. There was a recount, how exactly

00:06:01.080 that recount happened and what ballots were counted legally versus illegally. That issue went before the

00:06:08.200 United States Supreme Court. And then ultimately, even though the media was projecting Al Gore to be

00:06:14.220 the winner, the final vote tally ended up that George W. Bush became our 43rd president. So this is

00:06:23.780 why it really matters to make sure that the process and the vote tally is done according to the law and

00:06:29.800 that nobody rushes into projections and that we make sure that every vote is legally and fairly counted.

00:06:36.800 The other question that I get all the time is, well, why is the Supreme Court going to substitute its

00:06:42.700 judgment and for the will of the American people? We've spoken, the Supreme Court shouldn't intervene.

00:06:47.700 That's not accurate. The Supreme Court does not decide for the people. The Supreme Court fairly and

00:06:54.560 appropriately applies the U.S. Constitution and make sure that the states go according to their own law

00:07:00.840 and then we can get to an accurate count. Right. OK. And you talked about some of those

00:07:07.660 allegations, make sure that there's not dead people voting, making sure that everyone who voted

00:07:12.320 was actually eligible to vote and, of course, alive. Now, a lot of the pushback that people have been

00:07:18.120 giving to that is, well, do you have any evidence of that at all? So do you guys have evidence of

00:07:25.080 potential potential fraud in that way? Absolutely. And actually, I left out the sixth state of Nevada.

00:07:31.980 So there's actually six states and Nevada is one where there are allegations that we have of

00:07:38.920 nearing four thousand ballots that are in question of either non-residents of people who are deceased

00:07:46.200 who have voted. And of course, you know, as a non-resident, you have to make sure that you qualify

00:07:51.260 in the state in order to cast a ballot. So so, yes, what the mainstream media is trying to do is

00:07:58.060 manipulate the narrative. And they're now trying to say, well, no meaning or no meaningful and

00:08:04.160 widespread fraud has occurred. And what they're acknowledging tacitly is that they know that

00:08:09.520 fraud has occurred and they're just wanting to move the mark higher and higher to say, oh, well,

00:08:14.220 there's not enough fraud. There's not enough fraud. But when you look at all of the widespread fraud,

00:08:20.380 you look at the glitches in the computer system that we know that at least six thousand votes in

00:08:25.020 Michigan that should have gone to President Trump were suddenly moved for Joe Biden. That creates a

00:08:30.760 margin of twelve thousand votes. And that's just in one instance that we know of. So all of these

00:08:36.780 things are being discovered. We do have evidence of systematic fraud. All of these things have to be

00:08:42.340 litigated in court. And this is outcome determinative because we're talking about the electoral count

00:08:48.820 of six different states, which altogether, of course, would be outcome determinative.

00:08:54.420 And I think a way that the media is also trying to kind of manipulate the narrative is by asking

00:08:59.220 this question, where's your evidence? Where is your evidence? Well, you guys are going through the

00:09:03.400 legal process to try to prove that. And you are are leaving it up to the courts to be able to decide

00:09:09.060 if this is substantive, valid evidence and how pervasive it is. And so you guys aren't trying to

00:09:15.760 change the results of the election just by going out and saying there's fraud, there's fraud, there's

00:09:19.780 fraud. You guys are going through patiently and rightly the legal process to try to figure out

00:09:25.480 if this fraud exists, how pervasive it is. And then, of course, in the end, if it's decisive enough

00:09:31.340 for to change the outcome of the of the election, you guys aren't even asserting that it will change

00:09:37.940 the outcome. All you're asserting is that, look, we need to look out for the integrity of our elections.

00:09:42.920 We're going to go through the legal process to ensure that that happens. And whatever happens,

00:09:47.980 happens. Is that a correct description? Absolutely. And that's a really important

00:09:52.180 point, Ali, that this isn't just about litigating until we change the outcome. We're not doing what

00:09:58.140 Joe Biden is doing, which is let's count every vote until we win, which is basically what he's

00:10:03.160 asserting. And we're also not litigating in the court of public opinion. We're not putting the

00:10:07.580 evidence out there just so that, you know, a political pundit on, you know, the mainstream media can

00:10:12.640 decide whether they think the evidence is credible according to whatever standard they prefer. The

00:10:17.380 court of public opinion here isn't what's relevant and what is the arbiter of the outcome here. What

00:10:22.620 matters is what's shown in court and the relevance and the proof that we provide in court. So that's

00:10:29.240 why we're litigating. And so that's actually a really excellent point that you raise as well.

00:10:34.200 And what's the timeline for this? I mean, at what point are people going to kind of know how the

00:10:40.500 litigation ends up? Yeah, and that's also a great question. And, you know, if we look back at 2000,

00:10:46.600 between Election Day, which was November 7th of 2000, till December 12th was actually when

00:10:52.720 the Supreme Court issued their opinion. And so that was a 36-day window. And that was just over

00:10:59.600 one state on one fairly narrow issue. So, of course, everyone wants this done as expeditiously as

00:11:05.720 possible. It's really going to depend on the quickness of the courts in the states to make

00:11:12.960 rulings and then ultimately, likely, the Supreme Court. So this could take another couple of weeks.

00:11:18.840 But in terms of the constitutional time frame, December 8th right now is when states have to

00:11:24.260 slate their electors. And we may not know at that point in time. So we're just going to have to wait

00:11:30.520 and make sure that this process is completed. And it's really up to the judicial branch to make sure

00:11:35.380 that this is done as quickly as possible, while, of course, still being accurate.

00:11:40.500 Yes. And honestly, that should be nonpartisan. No matter what the outcome is of the election,

00:11:45.220 no matter who you voted for, we should all care about the integrity of the process, whether it's

00:11:50.780 this election, the midterms, or 2024. I mean, what you guys are doing, hopefully, is going to have

00:11:57.640 long-lasting positive effects on our process so that the people in this election process in the states

00:12:05.900 understand that people are watching. And we are going to hold this process accountable. So thank

00:12:12.380 you guys for the hard work that you're doing. I know that you are probably running on little sleep.

00:12:17.940 Hopefully, you've still got that adrenaline going. Is there anything that listeners can do to

00:12:23.960 support you, to follow you? Whatever your last words are for my audience, please let them know.

00:12:33.160 Thank you. Well, I really appreciate, Allie, how much you lift up the president and this country in

00:12:38.820 prayer. And I would just say the biggest thing, obviously, that we can all do is to pray that the

00:12:44.200 court system would make the right decisions, that we would get to a legitimate and accurate count.

00:12:50.280 That is what's important, not just to the outcome of this election, but to every future election. We

00:12:55.660 want to make sure to preserve and protect our constitutional process. And when we're denied

00:13:00.940 meaningful access, for example, to actually look and watch the ballots being counted, that's so

00:13:06.560 significant because we then don't know whether there have been manipulated ballots, ballots thrown

00:13:11.400 away, ballots changed. All of those things are really important to establish that everyone has to

00:13:18.080 follow the rules, that transparency matters, and that the outcome of this election will be preserved,

00:13:25.100 but also that we preserve precedent for future elections. So you can support us, of course. Go to

00:13:30.960 DonaldJTrump.com. That's the only website for all of our media, as well as our legal fund. Of course,

00:13:39.220 pray. And then you can follow all of us, myself included, on Twitter, social media, Parler.

00:13:44.200 And then just make sure that you don't take any of the mainstream media's narrative. Make sure that

00:13:50.480 you are checking that against the accurate statements that we're providing. And I would say

00:13:55.920 go to Team Trump and make sure that you are getting the most accurate information, not just believing

00:14:02.280 the media. Thank you so much, Jen. I really appreciate your time. Thanks so much, Ali.

00:14:07.460 Okay, guys. So that is, that's where we are. Like I said, the media is saying, show us the evidence,

00:14:28.020 show us the evidence. Well, that's exactly what they plan to do in the court of law. I mean,

00:14:31.420 they're not going to, they're not going to litigate this if they don't feel like they have

00:14:36.080 substantive evidence. That's just not how it goes. I mean, there appear to be 21,000 dead people on the

00:14:42.440 Pennsylvania voter rolls. They are going to be discussing that. Justice Samuel Alito has already

00:14:48.340 ordered that the ballots in Pennsylvania that were received after election day must be segregated. They

00:14:53.860 have to be set aside. And from what I read, they actually ignored that court order. And so there are

00:14:59.960 problems in Pennsylvania that they just want to be made sure are figured out before they officially

00:15:06.760 say, okay, this is the result of the election. There are problems in Nevada, as she said. There

00:15:13.160 are potential problems in Wisconsin and potential problems in Michigan as well. Apparently there was

00:15:18.200 a software glitch that caused 6,000 votes to be flipped from Trump to Biden. And the same software was

00:15:26.000 used in 47 of the 83 counties in Michigan, allegedly. And so there are a lot of allegations. Whether or

00:15:31.920 not the evidence holds up, that is yet to be seen. We just don't know that. It would be amazing if we

00:15:37.180 had a mainstream media who had some intellectual curiosity, some journalistic curiosity, and would

00:15:42.620 look a little bit more into these things rather than saying, no, no, no, this is impossible. There's

00:15:47.780 no way that any of this happened. If there are allegations of fraud, and if any of them are credible

00:15:53.420 whatsoever, then they should be looked into. Now there are some journalists, especially on Twitter

00:15:57.840 who have, and some allegations of fraud, some videos that kind of look sketchy have been very

00:16:03.600 easily discounted. And so we have to be very careful that we are not purposely sharing misinformation

00:16:09.540 and that we make sure that we look into all of these claims ourselves before spreading them.

00:16:14.500 For example, I saw, I've seen videos that some of you have sent to me of people filling,

00:16:20.420 what it looks like they're filling out ballots. And if you see that, you might think, oh my gosh,

00:16:25.400 they're filling out ballots exactly how they want them to. And then they're counting those ballots.

00:16:29.580 That is fraud. Well, yes, that would be fraud if that's what is that, if that's what was going on.

00:16:35.080 But you can see that the person sitting across from them is actually reading from a ballot that's

00:16:39.840 already filled out, telling the person across from them how to fill out the ballot. So we don't know

00:16:45.020 exactly what's happening there. But I know that in Texas, for example, that some mail-in ballots

00:16:50.000 were unreadable. Or if the scanner doesn't work, the software doesn't work for a set of ballots,

00:16:56.620 then you might have to actually replicate those ballots and re-scan them. That happened

00:17:01.540 in Dallas County and Texas. And so that does happen. My guess is that is what is going on there.

00:17:07.880 They certainly didn't look like they were hiding what they were doing. It's hard to tell what's

00:17:11.480 going on because everyone is wearing masks. But the fact that someone was reading the ballot to

00:17:17.040 someone else rather than just one person replicating the ballot shows that there actually was some

00:17:23.020 accountability there. And so we can't just share every video that looks sketchy and say this is

00:17:30.960 evidence of fraud. And certainly that's not what the Trump administration, the Trump campaign

00:17:35.200 is going to do. They're going to have to have substantive evidence if they want to have any kind

00:17:40.580 of chance in court. And that might not change the outcome. Now, if it does change the outcome,

00:17:46.700 I cannot even imagine the meltdown. I cannot imagine the meltdown because I'll talk about more of this

00:17:55.640 on Wednesday. But a lot of what we're experiencing right now, thanks to the media and thanks to some

00:18:02.540 people, not everyone, but some people on the left, there's a lot of psychological manipulation.

00:18:06.740 And so we've been made to believe by the mainstream media that the past four years have been a very

00:18:11.380 dark, dark season in American history. Actually, Don Lemon of CNN said that, that it's been very

00:18:18.060 difficult for him and all the other journalists to cover this dark period in American history and

00:18:23.580 that the Obama presidency was just this bright and sunny time that everyone got along. Everyone loved

00:18:29.440 each other. The economy was booming. Our relations with our allies was wonderful. And America

00:18:36.700 just had this amazing reputation abroad when that's just not true. I mean, as we've talked

00:18:41.660 about, as the New York Times said, Obama oversaw the slowest economic recovery in American history.

00:18:48.240 Yes, he inherited some economic recovery after the collapse in 2008, but it was the slowest economic

00:18:57.500 recovery that we'd seen. The intersectionality, the identity politics, the critical race theory,

00:19:04.780 the Marxism is seen in organizations like BLM. That all started under Obama. We've gone through the

00:19:11.160 various Pew Research polls, the Gallup polls that shows how far to the left Democrats have moved on

00:19:18.180 every economic issue and on every social issue, especially when it comes to their idea of racism

00:19:24.280 and sexism and discrimination. Whereas Republicans really haven't moved at all on these issues. We have

00:19:30.980 looked at the data of that. I can include the links in the description to this podcast in case you missed

00:19:36.240 that from a couple of weeks ago. That happened mostly while Barack Obama was president. So the division

00:19:42.520 that we are feeling might have been uncovered, maybe in some ways exacerbated by Donald Trump.

00:19:47.940 It did not start under Donald Trump. It was bad under Barack Obama. But the media would like us to

00:19:53.580 believe that he had a scandal-free presidency. He didn't. I mean, we had Benghazi. We had Fast and Furious.

00:19:59.340 We had the IRS scandal where the IRS, under Lois Lerner, I believe that it was, was targeting

00:20:06.520 Christian conservative organizations. And so we had plenty of scandals under Barack Obama. But the

00:20:12.200 media wants to engage in psychological warfare and make you think that Barack Obama was our most

00:20:19.120 wonderful and effective president when just objectively he was not. Joe Biden also, according to our

00:20:25.420 previous national security advisor, said that Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every foreign

00:20:31.720 policy issue for the 47 years of his political career. And so the media now making us feel like

00:20:39.680 we are going into this time of unity and love and peace and prosperity. It's gaslighting. Again,

00:20:47.020 it's manipulation. They're playing with your emotions and your feelings. When in fact,

00:20:51.780 under President Trump, no matter what you think about his personality, some of his personal

00:20:56.740 choices and his rhetoric, he was objectively one of the most positively consequential presidents

00:21:02.340 in history. It's just true. The way that his deregulation and tax cuts helped accelerate our

00:21:07.940 economic recovery and bring unemployment to record lows. The way that he has orchestrated peace deals

00:21:13.680 in the Middle East. And no matter what people like Chris Hayes tell you, those are consequential.

00:21:18.020 They're not just a formality, as we talked about in our foreign policy episode a few weeks ago.

00:21:23.860 Both his domestic and foreign policy has been, at least from a conservative perspective,

00:21:29.080 objectively, for the most part, very good. His judicial nominations, not just in the Supreme Court,

00:21:35.320 but just in the federal judiciary in general, have been very good from a conservative perspective.

00:21:40.620 The way that his administration has protected free speech, has protected the freedom of religion,

00:21:48.020 the way that they have gone against Planned Parenthood in some of their Title X reforms,

00:21:53.620 the way that they have stood up for the life of the unborn. From a conservative perspective,

00:21:59.000 again, a very positively consequential presidency, where objectively, Joe Biden's or Barack Obama's

00:22:06.420 wasn't. And we have no reason to think that Joe Biden's will be either. And in fact, based on a lot of

00:22:11.140 his policy proposals, as we have looked at over the past 12 weeks, we have a good reason to be concerned

00:22:18.040 about his leadership and be concerned about how positively effective he will be. And so that's

00:22:25.800 where we are. And I just want you to be aware of the psychological manipulation that is going on in

00:22:32.500 trying to play with your emotions into making you believe that the Obama era was wonderful and sunny

00:22:40.300 and that the Joe Biden era will be too, when that just wasn't the reality under Barack Obama.

00:22:45.720 It's probably not going to be the reality under Joe Biden, as I'll talk about in a minute. I want Joe

00:22:50.960 Biden to do well. I want him, if it turns out that officially he is the president, then I want him

00:22:58.680 to succeed. And like I said, I'll talk about that in in just a second. But I don't have any indication

00:23:04.020 that that'll happen. I just don't. And, you know, speaking of psychological warfare,

00:23:11.000 Pfizer has now said that they have their vaccine ready. And of course, the stock market is doing

00:23:18.320 very well in light of that news. That timing was obviously strategic. They didn't want to give

00:23:24.140 President Trump any credit. They didn't want the market to be affected while President Trump

00:23:28.540 was still president. They didn't want people to feel like things could go back to normal because

00:23:33.820 of President Trump's work. But under Operation Warp Speed, thanks to the president, a vaccine has

00:23:40.560 been developed under Pfizer and through Pfizer. And President Trump will be able to take credit for

00:23:47.120 that. But I guarantee you, the media will say that this is Joe Biden's work, that it is actually his

00:23:53.500 administration that did this. And look, things are already looking up. Things are already better.

00:23:58.540 I saw an article recently that said indoor concerts are actually fine. I saw another article in the

00:24:05.540 Daily Mail that said scientists say that coronavirus is overblown. So already you see the narrative

00:24:11.080 changing. That look, things are looking up just because Joe Biden has been elected. He's not even

00:24:17.420 president yet. It's emotional manipulation. It's psychological warfare. It is important for you

00:24:24.260 to remind yourself on a daily basis that two and two is four, not five. For you to actually make a

00:24:30.540 list of the things that are happening right now, the list of the things that happened under Donald

00:24:35.700 Trump, the things that happened under Barack Obama, so you can keep a record of history, so you can have

00:24:41.440 an accurate memory of everything that is going on right now, all the lies that the media has told you,

00:24:46.640 is telling you, and line them up with reality. It's going to be important for posterity. It's going to

00:24:53.420 be important for your own sanity when the media continues to gaslight you. So like I said, if

00:24:59.220 somehow this goes the other direction, if they're successful in their litigation and President Trump

00:25:04.560 ends up being the president, there will be a gigantic meltdown like you have never seen before.

00:25:12.140 I can't even imagine. I don't even want to think about it. What I'm praying for is for integrity

00:25:21.220 and honor in our process, that judges would be unbiased, that they would be impartial in their

00:25:29.520 decision making, and that justice would be executed no matter what the outcome is. I think that all

00:25:34.680 Americans should be able to easily say, look, we want all legal votes counted. We want all illegal votes

00:25:40.880 thrown out. We want any fraud to be found out and rooted out, and we want justice to be served. That

00:25:47.560 really shouldn't be controversial or partisan at all. Now, if Joe Biden, once and for all, after all of

00:25:55.380 this ends up being our rightful president, then we have to trust as Christians that that is God's will.

00:26:03.780 Now, I understand some people don't want to hear that. They don't like to hear that, and I totally

00:26:09.180 understand that. I will address those concerns. That's something that we are going to kind of break

00:26:14.800 down. God's sovereign will, which cannot be thwarted, and God's moral will, which can be broken as we

00:26:21.420 see throughout scripture. But whoever is the president and the vice president, we do trust in God's

00:26:27.640 sovereignty that he did institute them and that he did set them up, and there's biblical support for that.

00:26:32.640 Daniel 2, 20 through 22. Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, to whom belong wisdom and

00:26:39.400 might. He changes times and seasons. He removes kings and sets up kings. He gives wisdom to the

00:26:45.680 wise and knowledge to those who have understanding. He reveals deep and hidden things. He knows what is

00:26:50.980 in the darkness, and the light dwells with him. He is all-powerful. 1 Peter 2, 13. Be subject

00:26:58.320 for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme or to

00:27:05.040 governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. Romans 13, 1.

00:27:11.380 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except

00:27:15.020 from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Job 42, 2. I know that you can do all things

00:27:22.000 and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted. So all the governing authorities are instituted by God.

00:27:29.960 We are called to honor them and obey them insofar as doing so does not cause us to sin against God,

00:27:37.760 because as Romans 13 says, their authority comes from God. And as Romans 13 and 1 Peter says,

00:27:44.420 their job is to punish the wrongdoer and give praise to those who do good.

00:27:49.320 But when they redefine what is bad and they redefine what is good, they are disobeying the

00:27:54.920 authority that comes from God. And we are not called to obey wickedness. We are not called to

00:28:02.440 obey sinful mandates. We see that in scripture. The Hebrew midwives did not honor the edict to kill

00:28:08.540 firstborn sons. If we were called to do that, we wouldn't do it. Daniel did not honor the ban on

00:28:13.760 prayers. If we were called not to pray or not to worship, we wouldn't do it. Shadrach, or we wouldn't

00:28:20.080 obey it. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego did not bow to Nebuchadnezzar. If we were told to bow down to

00:28:25.320 an idol, we would not do it. And thankfully, in the United States, we live in a government that is

00:28:31.020 supposed to be of the people, for the people, by the people. The law of our land, the highest authority

00:28:36.160 is the U.S. Constitution. Even our president is supposed to be subject to the Constitution.

00:28:42.680 That's why we have a republic. That's why the founders set up these checks and balances. That

00:28:47.380 is why it is so crucial for Republicans to hold the majority in the Senate, as we will talk about more

00:28:53.460 in just a little bit. As John Knox said, resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. And I firmly believe

00:29:00.120 that John Knox was a Scottish reformer, amazing man of God. Tyrants, leaders who seek to control

00:29:06.700 the lives of their people, who oppress them with heavy taxes, for example, or just unrealistic and

00:29:13.340 burdensome regulations who limit their liberty, are misusing the authority that they have from the

00:29:18.780 Lord. They are perverting justice, real biblical justice. They are oppressing their people, which

00:29:24.100 ends in suffering, not just for Christians, but for everyone of any faith in any demographic.

00:29:29.340 And so we resist them when they try to impose evil. And we take any legal means necessary

00:29:36.360 to check their power. But all of that said, we still pray for our leaders. Absolutely. I already

00:29:43.600 have been praying for Biden and Kamala. Again, the fat lady hasn't sung yet. And so we don't know

00:29:49.160 absolutely everything. We don't know exactly how the outcome is going to go. Even so, in this period,

00:29:56.000 I have prayed for Biden and Kamala, and I will continue to, if they are the rightful president

00:30:02.500 and vice president, I've prayed, number one, that they would come to know the Lord. I pray the same

00:30:07.120 thing for President Trump, that somehow they would lead the country in righteousness and goodness,

00:30:12.940 which would literally take the miraculous work of the Holy Spirit, which he is totally capable of doing.

00:30:17.320 So we submit to our leaders as much as we righteously can. We trust in God's will. And let me

00:30:23.640 explain that. God's sovereign will versus his moral will. So God's sovereign will, according to

00:30:32.720 Scripture, cannot be changed. It cannot be thwarted. Nothing can go against it. Nothing happens outside

00:30:39.100 of it. As Matthew 10 says, the verse that we quote so often, not even the sparrows fall from the sky

00:30:44.920 apart from their father's will, apart from God's will. Daniel 4, 35. Daniel 4 is a great chapter

00:30:52.440 to be reading right now. He does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the

00:30:58.060 inhabitants of the earth, and none can stay his hand. So again, Job 42, 2, nothing can thwart what

00:31:04.920 God wants to do. Our God is in the heavens. He does all that he pleases. Psalms 115, 3. But anytime that

00:31:14.220 we do something he commands us not to do in Scripture, we do go against his moral will. So we

00:31:20.680 bear the responsibility for the choices that we make. And we see this throughout Scripture from

00:31:24.980 ancient Israel all the way to the New Testament, that God has a moral will that we are to ascribe to,

00:31:30.940 God subscribe to. God calls certain actions, desires, thoughts, sinful, and we are not to do them.

00:31:39.680 And we are to pursue the holiness that he calls holy. So that means that while, for example,

00:31:46.140 the murder of unborn babies, denying the reality of biology, the breakdown of the nuclear family that

00:31:51.720 God set up in Genesis, none of those things are in his moral will. None of those things please him.

00:31:57.260 They make him very angry as all evil does. The leaders who support these things are only

00:32:02.380 instituted or not instituted, though, according to his sovereign will. Nothing happens outside of

00:32:11.240 God's sovereign will. Things happen every second outside of God's moral will, which is exactly why

00:32:16.940 he has made a way for rebels like you and me to be forgiven of the infringements upon his moral will

00:32:23.220 and live with him forever through the death and the resurrection of his son, Jesus Christ.

00:32:27.860 So if we are saved by grace through faith in him, our sins are wiped away forever. Every time that

00:32:33.600 we have infringed upon God's moral will, we are forgiven for all of that. And if not, if we are

00:32:39.020 not saved by grace through faith in Christ, we bear the eternal wrath and punishment for our sins.

00:32:44.740 Now, if you're a thoughtful person, you might be thinking, okay, if God is totally sovereign,

00:32:48.520 if he does everything that he wants, well, why doesn't he just stop people from breaking his moral will?

00:32:53.400 Why does he allow sin and wickedness to happen if he is totally in charge and he can do absolutely

00:32:59.100 anything that he wants to do? That's a really good question. And you are not the first person to ask

00:33:04.280 this. Apparently, Christians in Rome were asking this as well. So we can go to Romans 9, if you will,

00:33:12.200 as a Calvinist. Of course, this is one of our favorite passages. This passage is speaking about

00:33:18.020 salvation of both the Jews and the Gentiles through Christ. Paul explains, look, God has mercy on

00:33:24.820 whomever he wants to have mercy, and he hardens the heart of whomever he wants to harden the hearts

00:33:31.420 of. He hardened Pharaoh's heart. He made it to where Pharaoh, from his heart, was making the decisions

00:33:38.780 that he was making and not letting God's people go. Verse 16 of Romans 9 says that this shows that

00:33:44.600 salvation is up to God's mercy, not up to our effort. Of course, this is reiterated throughout

00:33:51.020 the New Testament. So this speaks to this question then, though. How can God hold us responsible for

00:33:57.740 decisions that ultimately he is still in charge of and could change if he wanted to, since he is

00:34:03.680 sovereign over everything and can do anything he wants? Well, here's how Paul answers what I believe

00:34:08.500 to be a very good question, starting in verse 19 of Romans 9. The Holy Spirit through Paul says this,

00:34:16.500 you will say to me then, why does he find fault? For who can resist his, God's, will? But who are you,

00:34:23.060 oh man, to answer back to God? So that's basically Paul's answer. Will what is molded say to its molder?

00:34:29.140 Why have you made me like this? Has the potter no right over the clay to make out of the same lump

00:34:34.240 one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show

00:34:39.540 his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for

00:34:44.560 destruction in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has

00:34:49.100 prepared beforehand for glory? So basically, God through Paul is saying, look, God is God and God

00:34:56.400 does what he wills, whatever he wills, for his own glory. We don't know why God allows all the things

00:35:03.260 that he does. We don't know why it seems that wickedness at times prevails, except that he

00:35:08.160 promises in various places, but in specifically Romans 8.28, that all things, yes, even bad leadership

00:35:16.480 work together for the good of those who love him. And we know that in the end, he will claim complete

00:35:22.760 victory, that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. And he is

00:35:28.640 placing all of his enemies under his feet. Psalm 37 says this, fret not yourself because of evil

00:35:34.840 doers. Be not envious of wrongdoers, for they will soon fade like the grass and wither like the green

00:35:41.180 herb. Trust in the Lord and do good. Dwell in the land and befriend faithfulness. So perhaps God

00:35:49.000 endures wickedness to show his power and his glory once and for all. Honestly, it is hard for me. I'm not

00:35:56.100 saying that this is an easy concept. It's hard for me to understand why some terrible, terrible things

00:36:01.340 happen. I mean, it's one thing to think about it in a general sense. Yeah, war, famine, persecution,

00:36:06.420 all that happens. But when you think about the specific people, the children, the babies, the

00:36:11.220 Christians, the vulnerable people who are harmed by other people's wickedness, by tyranny, it's very hard

00:36:18.180 to understand how a good God allows that. I get it. If that is something that you struggle with,

00:36:23.080 I get it. But I take comfort in the fact that our sovereign God does not let, will not let wickedness

00:36:29.840 go unpunished, that he is not just waiting idly by and just allowing evil to flourish, that he will

00:36:35.820 take care of it. He promises vengeance and he asks us to trust in that and we will get to watch him

00:36:41.420 claim victory. That's what he promises. And that is what I take comfort in, that he is not going to

00:36:46.640 let evil go unpunished. So all that to say, it was part of God's sovereign will for Obama to be

00:36:52.140 president, for Trump to be president, for Biden to be president, if the litigation doesn't change

00:36:56.760 anything, even if they represent policies or personality traits or choices that go against

00:37:02.980 his moral will. So that means as Christians, we have an obligation to pray for them and honor them

00:37:09.540 as our leaders, but to push back on any evil policy that they try to implement. I truly want Joe Biden,

00:37:17.800 if he is officially our president, to lead this country well. I love this country. My patriotism

00:37:23.540 does not wax or wane based on who is president, unlike as we saw from the Gallup poll a few weeks

00:37:29.040 ago. Democrats' patriotism does. I love America because of the idea and the ideal upon which she

00:37:35.880 was founded that I believe to be the greatest idea and ideal for government that the world has ever

00:37:41.400 seen. No country has made as much progress as quickly as we have. We have had dark decisions

00:37:47.920 made. We have had dark and corrupt and terrible and inhumane seasons in our history as every country

00:37:55.700 in the history of the world has. But no country has righted their wrongs as well or as quickly as we

00:38:02.500 have. So I want Biden to be a fantastic president because I love this country and I love the people in

00:38:07.980 this country. And as Jeremiah 29 says, we should be wanting and praying for and working toward the

00:38:14.080 welfare of our country, every demographic in this country. I would love Joe Biden to bring us together.

00:38:20.800 I want us to appeal to our so-called better angels and to be able to have constructive discussions and

00:38:26.620 debates, disagreements about policy issues, about cultural issues, while still agreeing on the

00:38:32.580 fundamentals. The problem is we don't seem to agree on the fundamentals at all. And I think it's very

00:38:40.340 important that we're honest about this, that we take an honest assessment of where we are

00:38:44.640 ideologically in this country. I read the Pew Research studies a few weeks ago that showed us how

00:38:49.700 different we are, the Republicans and Democrats, on our perspective on things like religion and morality.

00:38:57.800 Democrats are vastly more secular than the Republican Party with a huge share, the lion's share of atheists

00:39:04.220 and agnostics. Democrats believe that racism and sexism are rampant and institutionalized in

00:39:13.360 America. Most Republicans do not. Democrats view the Constitution, and I think these are all fair

00:39:18.880 assessments, by the way, as malleable and most of the time as inconvenient to their goals. Republicans

00:39:25.220 don't see it that way. Democrats view patriotism as conditional to who is in charge and what's going

00:39:30.580 on, and Republicans don't. Most Democrats believe gender is a choice and that children should be

00:39:35.460 able to choose their gender independent of their parents' guidance. Most Republicans and conservatives

00:39:40.220 don't. Democrats believe, via the Equality Act, that biological boys who identify as girls should be

00:39:46.700 able to share locker rooms and bathrooms and play on sports teams with girls. Most Republicans don't

00:39:52.180 believe that. Democrats, via the Equality Act, are increasingly of the position that religious liberty

00:39:57.600 only extends privately held beliefs in your mind and should not affect the things that you say or do

00:40:03.840 or how you conduct your business or even how you teach or preach. Again, you can see the Equality Act

00:40:10.160 for that, and you can look at the various legal cases against vendors in the past few years who

00:40:14.880 refuse to cater to, for example, same-sex weddings. Democrats push for what I view as radical sex

00:40:22.120 education for children in school, like we just saw in a measure passed in Washington State and in

00:40:27.600 California. Most Republicans don't want that. Most Democrats think the Second Amendment is problematic

00:40:33.040 and needs to be reined in as much as possible. Most Republicans don't believe that. Democrats have now

00:40:37.860 advocated for packing the Supreme Court and abolishing the Electoral College, whereas most Republicans think that

00:40:43.240 we should continue living in a republic and that the middle of the country should be fairly represented

00:40:48.920 rather than living in a pure democracy, which the founders believed and knew had never worked

00:40:54.900 throughout history. So we have very different views, fundamentally different views on the roles of

00:41:00.600 government, on health care, on immigration policy, on these policies. Yes, we can compromise, but

00:41:07.020 we disagree, again, on the fundamentals of these things. In order to come together in any way,

00:41:14.540 we have to, at the very least, come together on this, that the idea of America, that we are a republic

00:41:21.280 for the people, by the people, of the people, with God-given rights to life, liberty, and happiness,

00:41:28.040 recognized by the Constitution, that this idea is good and must be protected and upheld. If we can't agree

00:41:33.320 on that, then we don't have any cohesive structure in which to unite. We're not going to be able to

00:41:40.680 unite with the side in any meaningful way that believes that America is fundamentally bad, that

00:41:46.220 the Constitution is an inconvenience, that everything needs to be torn down in order to be rebuilt into a

00:41:51.820 socialist utopia. We cannot unite if we continue to regard each other primarily by people's membership

00:41:58.140 and oppression groups, by their race or gender or socioeconomic status. That particular trend came

00:42:04.260 to us, like I said, via the Obama administration and has torn our country apart. We cannot unite with

00:42:10.340 the side who believes that conservatives are Nazis and have no interest in understanding at all what we

00:42:16.060 believed, which happens to be what people have believed for centuries, if not millennia. We just,

00:42:21.360 it's not possible. It's just not possible. That doesn't mean that we have to hate leftists who don't

00:42:26.660 understand us at all. I don't, I don't want that. But in order to have any kind of meaningful unity and

00:42:31.400 to move forward in any kind of cohesive way, like we're going to have to find some common ground.

00:42:38.900 The fact is, is that Kamala and Biden represent the leftism that is now beginning to dominate the

00:42:45.180 Democratic Party. And the very nature of that leftism, as we have talked about and explained so many times

00:42:50.500 on this podcast, is destruction, deconstruction, and division. Leftism as an ideology does not govern.

00:42:57.840 It builds passion, and it can tear down, and it can make you angry, and it can make you feel things,

00:43:03.900 but it does not build. It does not unite. It does not reconcile. You cannot show me one example

00:43:09.840 throughout history of a left-wing revolution ending in love, in freedom, in equality, in liberation,

00:43:15.820 rather than in division and poverty and suffering, because it doesn't exist. It cannot happen. It's

00:43:20.700 not in its nature. Everything happening right now, especially through Antifa, Black Lives Matter,

00:43:27.100 and so much of the social justice rhetoric that we are seeing from the left and in the Democratic Party

00:43:32.820 right now, mirrors the Bolshevik revolution. We see reflections of Pol Pot's year zero and Khmer Rouge,

00:43:38.620 the very beginnings of it, by the way. Now, I'm hoping that none of that could ever happen here.

00:43:43.440 But it's the same kind of—they're the same kind of proposals. It's the same kind of rhetoric.

00:43:49.060 We see bits of the French Revolution. We see Mao's Great Leap Forward. We see East Germany,

00:43:53.240 the Cuban Revolution, the Venezuelan Revolution. We've talked about these things so many times.

00:43:58.420 Read Roger Ayer's book, Live Not By Lies. Listen to my episode with him from a couple weeks ago.

00:44:03.580 We don't have to be ignorant about this.

00:44:13.440 So we've seen this before. When a political party or the people in power, they create the problems and

00:44:22.420 then present themselves as the solution to the problems. And that's what we're seeing in a

00:44:25.560 political party that teaches people to view each other on the basis of skin color, their economic

00:44:30.740 class, their gender, their religion, while simultaneously presenting itself as the thing

00:44:35.560 that's going to bring us together. So it's calling for unity while also stoking division.

00:44:39.780 And the solutions that it has is always more money and power to the government. And isn't that

00:44:44.760 convenient? And that's how it always goes. Money and power, they promise that they will use to take

00:44:49.440 care of the poor and the marginalized that they never do. They just use to get more authority and

00:44:54.140 power. This is how leftism plays out. It always has. It cannot change. It's not in its nature.

00:45:00.560 You want to know the reason why it's Democrats who support the redefinition of gender,

00:45:07.100 as we see on a daily basis in their proposals and their rhetoric, the pronouns they put in their

00:45:11.980 bio like Kamala Harris has, the dismantling of the nuclear family, as BLM explicitly told us on

00:45:17.640 their website, sex education for children that includes all kinds of perversion, as we just saw

00:45:22.740 in a measure in Washington, for protecting animals and plants more than unborn babies, as we just saw

00:45:27.780 in a measure in Colorado, for the legalization of prostitution, as Kamala Harris has said that she is,

00:45:33.940 because leftism seeks to deconstruct. That's what it is. It believes hierarchies are inherently evil,

00:45:41.240 that social constructs must be obliterated, and all social norms are bad, and all unequal outcomes

00:45:47.040 are unjust. And so it seeks to tear down the hierarchies and institutions, but has nothing but

00:45:52.640 imaginative utopian communism to put in its place, which never works. It's never worked. How do I know

00:45:59.740 this? Because I can look at the 20th century. It's not a mystery. We don't have to know. Or we don't

00:46:06.220 have to guess. We can know. We know how this ends. When Kamala Harris says equity means equal

00:46:11.920 outcomes, we know what that leads to. That's the same thing that Mao said, and Pol Pot said, and Chavez

00:46:16.740 said, and Castro said too. And look, you do need some progressivism in culture. You need progressivism

00:46:23.260 and conservatism. Conservatism has to be there to hold the good things together and to stand for the

00:46:29.460 institutions like the nuclear family and the church and the electoral college and the constitution

00:46:34.240 that have created a good and cohesive society, the Western rule of law, law and order. And you need

00:46:40.380 progressivism to challenge the norms and the institutions that actually aren't good, but that

00:46:45.300 maybe some people are holding on to for no good reason. But deconstructing everything that has created

00:46:52.260 and held together and made societies thrive is not good. They say that all social constructs are bad

00:47:00.380 and must be challenged and deconstructed. But look, human beings create social constructs so we can

00:47:05.560 live. We necessitate social constructs. All human beings for all creation have had a social order.

00:47:12.300 There's a reason human beings created times and clocks and calendars and names for seasons. Why for

00:47:19.220 millennia we have regarded humanity as male and female. There was never any confusion about that.

00:47:24.060 Why we have families and tribes and cultures. We need organization. So we have to conserve that which

00:47:31.100 societies need to survive and thrive. Not everything needs to be questioned and deconstructed and broken

00:47:35.620 down. That's why leftism doesn't build. It is an okay complement to conservatism, but when it dominates,

00:47:41.980 all it does is go scorched earth. And that's not good. That's why it always ends terribly.

00:47:48.820 And a lot of people don't want unity. And this is where we're going to end. I have a lot more to say,

00:47:54.240 but I'll try to wrap it up because I know that we've already kind of gone long. But

00:47:57.760 a lot of people don't want unity. We're hearing calls for unity. We're hearing calls to come together.

00:48:02.940 We are hearing them say, you know what, now's the time that we just need to have peace,

00:48:07.020 even though they've been calling us fascist for the past four years and have been saying that everyone

00:48:12.000 who voted for him is just terrible and awful. They have made no effort towards any kind of unity or

00:48:18.060 peace or kindness over the past four years. But now that they've gotten their way, now there are

00:48:22.600 benevolent dictators. That's so sweet. Here's what Michelle Obama said. Let's remember that tens of

00:48:27.500 thousands of people voted for the status quo, even when it meant supporting lies, hate, chaos,

00:48:32.740 and division. We've got a lot of work to do to reach out to these folks and the years ahead and

00:48:37.180 connect with them on what unites us. Classic Obama. That is a classic Obama. You say something

00:48:45.040 that sounds unifying and loving, but within it, you are lacing in condemnation and condescension.

00:48:51.920 That is exactly what Obama did for his eight years of his presidency. He and Michelle are still up to it

00:48:57.260 now. Yes, let's come together. And by the way, everyone who voted for Donald Trump voted for

00:49:02.160 hate and lies and division and chaos. No interest whatsoever in understanding why we did not

00:49:09.540 want to vote for Joe Biden. Like no interest in that at all. It's never about a difference in

00:49:14.640 policies. It's always about love versus hate for them. And it just happens to be that anyone as a

00:49:19.940 conservative who happens to hold to the things that have made this country good and great for so long,

00:49:25.760 they're all hateful. It's interesting how that works. So how are we supposed to unite with people who

00:49:30.500 regard us in that way, who have no interest in understanding the policy positions and the fears

00:49:34.940 and concerns that we have? It's not possible. They don't want to hear that. Hey, the reason why

00:49:41.300 we voted for Donald Trump, even though he is imperfect, is because we liked the record unemployment,

00:49:47.060 because we like the freedom to be able to protect ourselves and our families with whatever guns we see

00:49:53.060 fit. We like religious liberty. We like strong foreign policy that creates peace in the Middle East,

00:49:57.840 helps Israel and is tough on our enemies. We don't like defunding the police. We don't like

00:50:03.200 being led by people who encourage and enable riots. We don't like identity politics that your husband,

00:50:10.440 Michelle Obama, shoved in our faces for eight years. There are lots of reasons why people voted

00:50:15.900 for Donald Trump that have nothing to do with hate, division and chaos. We could just as easily say

00:50:20.500 the Democratic Party is the party of those things. They're the party of riots and chaos and instability.

00:50:26.800 But people vote for Democrats for legitimate reasons. And so when we say that you're only

00:50:34.600 voting for Donald Trump because you're a hateful racist bigot and you don't take any time to address

00:50:39.400 or to understand the real concerns that we have for ourselves and for our families and for the

00:50:44.220 country in general, that there's no way that we can unite around that. I'm not going to unite around

00:50:49.840 a false characterization of me and what I care about. So sure, we can unite, but we're going to

00:50:57.660 have to come together on some fundamentals. And you're going to have to stop saying that anyone

00:51:02.340 who believes in the First and Second Amendment, who believes in free speech or religious liberty and

00:51:06.520 your right to defend yourself as a fascist, like you're probably going to have to cut that out

00:51:10.800 if you want us to really come together. But I understand. I understand. You're going to call for

00:51:16.980 unity, finally, for the first time in four years. And then when we refuse to unify because you refuse

00:51:22.300 to stop mischaracterizing us, then you're going to say we are the ones causing the division. It's

00:51:27.860 amazing. It's amazing manipulation. It's a really clever strategy. Speaking of fascism,

00:51:34.300 let us look at some of the people who we are supposed to be uniting with. There are some suggestions

00:51:42.100 on Twitter, not by random people, mind you, but mainstream people in the Democratic Party

00:51:45.700 in the media and in left-wing activism saying that, hey, we need to make a list. Robert Reich said

00:51:56.880 that we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission, Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton. Truth and

00:52:03.140 Reconciliation Commission is something like they had in South Africa in the 90s after the apartheid to hold

00:52:08.340 the white majority accountable for the crimes against humanity that they did. It's a similar

00:52:15.700 kind of thing to or similar kind of movement that they tried to do in Zimbabwe. What that ended in

00:52:21.620 is violence and discrimination and hatred against white people. And the people who have actually

00:52:26.420 taken charge in South Africa have done a terrible job. And it's completely corrupt. South Africa is not

00:52:32.680 a good place to live. It has not come together. It's more racist and divided than ever. Because resentment

00:52:38.100 fueled revolutions never work. You never work. You can't unite in the name of resentment. But Chris

00:52:45.060 Hayes of MSNBC is also suggesting a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Blue check marks Jeffrey

00:52:51.220 Vagel, Brandon Friedman, Quinn Cummings, Trey Graham, Susan Glasser of The New Yorker, the outlet In The

00:52:57.540 Times, the outlet The Nation, the Philadelphia Inquirer, Salon. They all made the exact same suggestion that

00:53:03.460 Trump supporters and Trump need to be held accountable for supporting the guy that we

00:53:10.420 don't like, that we need to be, I don't know, put in front of a tribunal. And we need to be made to

00:53:16.260 agree with their definition of truth. And we need to be reeducated and convinced of and show support of

00:53:26.100 their ideology in order for us to come together. Now, most of these people, of course, couldn't

00:53:31.620 define truth if you asked them. But we are supposed to latch on to their definition of truth. It's

00:53:36.980 pretty incredible. Steve Schmidt says that Trump, his campaign staff and his lawyers should pay,

00:53:42.020 quote, a brutal price for betraying the American ideal. What is the American ideal, according to

00:53:46.820 Democrats? I'd love to know. AOC asked this very innocent question on Twitter. Is anyone archiving

00:53:53.060 these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future?

00:53:58.180 I foresee a decent probability of many deleted tweets, writings, photos in the future. Huh? I

00:54:03.460 wish history had something to tell us about combining socialism with resentment, especially

00:54:09.220 political resentment. I want, how, gosh, how is that, how has that worked out? It's, it's escaping me.

00:54:16.260 It's escaping me. I'm sure that it's worked out very, very well. The corpses in the 20th century would

00:54:22.140 probably agree. Marxist going to Marxist, though. But former Pete Buttigieg staffers replied to her.

00:54:30.940 You better believe it, says Hari Savugan, a former Pete Buttigieg staffer. We just launched the Trump

00:54:37.500 accountability project to make sure anyone who took a paycheck to help Trump undermine America is held

00:54:43.820 responsible for what they did. He also says Caitlin Collins of CNN just reported the White House staff

00:54:50.220 for starting to look for jobs. Employers considering them should know that there are consequences,

00:54:55.180 says the fascist. Consequences for hiring anyone who helped Trump attack American values. Is it an

00:55:00.460 American value to be a fascist? This, this, you want to know what fascism is? This is intimidating

00:55:05.980 people with real life consequences because they don't agree with you politically. Find out how. The

00:55:13.180 Trump accountability project, he says. Former Obama staffer Michael Simon replied in a similar fashion.

00:55:19.180 Yes, we are, he says to AOC. The Trump accountability project. Every administration officer, campaign

00:55:24.220 staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them. Everyone. They literally have a list of these people.

00:55:30.620 Amazing. Amazing. Another Buttigieg staffer, Emily Abrams, says this on Twitter. We're launching the

00:55:36.460 Trump accountability project to make sure anyone who took a paycheck to help Trump undermine America is

00:55:41.140 held responsible for what they did. Wow. Wow. And so they want to call us the fascist because

00:55:49.700 what? Like, we believe in free speech. We believe that you should be able to say what you want to say.

00:55:55.380 Like, we believe that you should be able to worship or not worship how you see fit. Like, because we

00:56:00.900 believe in, uh, we believe in the Second Amendment that you should be able to defend yourself how you see

00:56:06.900 fit because we believe in deregulation, low taxes, the Constitution, the Electoral College. Like, what is

00:56:13.740 it? What is it exactly? But this is fine. This kind of political intimidation is fine. As Ronald Reagan

00:56:19.860 said, if fascism comes to the United States, it will come in the name of liberalism. Here we are. Here we

00:56:25.300 are. But unity, guys, unity. What are they going to do about the 70 million of us who voted for Donald

00:56:31.260 Trump and who believe that Donald Trump did a lot of great things for America and are not going to buy

00:56:35.180 into their definition of of truth and morality? We didn't do this, by the way, when Obama left office.

00:56:41.580 And I guarantee you, we believe Obama to be just as destructive policy wise and even rhetorically

00:56:48.940 as you guys think Trump is. And we didn't do this. But again, how how is it that we are the fascists and

00:56:55.020 you're not? Jennifer Rubin, who any are now promoting rejection of an election or calling

00:57:03.580 to not follow the will of the voters or making baseless allegations of fraud should never serve

00:57:08.120 in office. The person who ran with the Russian collusion theory for four years should never serve

00:57:15.180 in office, join a corporate board, find a faculty position or be accepted into polite society. We have

00:57:20.700 a list. Evan McMullin, some of you people voted for him in 2016, as you have revealed to me in

00:57:27.180 Instagram messages. We should keep and publish a list of everyone who assists Trump's frivolous

00:57:33.740 and dangerous attacks on the election. Name and shame forever. Don Winslow, an author. Here's my

00:57:41.580 2021 New Year's resolution early. Nobody gets off that helped Trump. Nobody. Again, Chris Hayes

00:57:49.300 said that Trump needs to be held accountable and the GOP, by the way, for having already gotten a

00:57:56.980 shocking number of people killed and are going to get more killed. Now, this is the same person,

00:58:04.020 along with all the leftist media, who have nothing to say about the riots, the super spreader events,

00:58:09.660 nothing to say about mass protests, mass marches, praise the people celebrating in the streets after

00:58:15.500 Biden's win. Those aren't Trump supporters. Trump didn't tell those people to go out.

00:58:20.740 I mean, honestly, the numbers are just as bad, if not worse. And the Democratic grunts that he's in

00:58:26.220 states. Trump doesn't have jurisdiction over everyone's life and the regulations that the

00:58:30.040 states and localities put in place. So, again, this is just a farcical argument. And these people

00:58:36.940 are so hypocritical because they don't want you to go to church. They don't want kids to be in school.

00:58:41.740 They don't want you to just live a normal life, but they think it's totally fine if you are in a

00:58:47.140 maskless mosh pit in the street celebrating Joe Biden's win. It's really amazing. Let's watch just

00:58:54.700 a couple clips really fast of Biden supporters rallying in the streets after the media projected

00:58:59.520 him as a winner. I saw a video of a girl. I tweeted it. It's on my timeline. Taking down her mask,

00:59:26.420 drinking some champagne, passing the bottle to another person so they can drink the champagne and

00:59:32.060 then pulling her mask back up. Perfect depiction of much of liberal logic on coronavirus.

00:59:40.960 You have some people saying, oh, hopefully those people are wearing masks. That's not how masks

00:59:45.340 work, by the way. If COVID actually spreads the way that scientists say that it does, mosh pits with

00:59:50.480 a mask on, even if they're wearing a mask, are far more dangerous than you sitting in church without

00:59:56.000 a mask, like just with your family. Are you sitting at a restaurant or kids being in school at their

01:00:02.540 desk or playing outside? Are you going to a funeral for your family member? Are you holding your wedding

01:00:09.020 or holding your mother's hand as she died? All of that is much safer than the rallies, than the

01:00:17.460 riots, than the mosh pits that we are seeing of these woke people. It's all duplicitous gaslighting.

01:00:25.260 It's all malice. Remember, two plus two makes four. You got to write this stuff down. You got to chronicle

01:00:30.440 this stuff. You got to remember reality when they try to tell you that reality has changed.

01:00:34.840 Um, I do think that Biden has said some good things so far. I think that he does want to unify.

01:00:42.260 I think that he needs to get his house in order, though. They obviously don't want to unify with us.

01:00:48.000 They obviously hate Trump supporters. They hate the 70 million Americans that voted for him. And they

01:00:52.980 think that we need to be, quote, held accountable for having a different political view. It's gaslighting.

01:00:59.060 It's insane. It's insane. In order to keep yourself sane, you have to remind yourself of reality.

01:01:04.540 You can't let yourself be psychologically manipulated. And you have to be, gosh, we got to

01:01:09.020 be in the truth of God's word because that is the realist reality that we have. When they try to tell

01:01:13.580 you that gender has been redefined, that sexuality and biology has been redefined, when they try to

01:01:19.020 change the news and memory hold the things that they said five minutes ago, when they try to tell us

01:01:23.840 a different rendering of history than we know to be true, we have to cling to what is factually

01:01:29.660 true, the data-driven truth, and most importantly, what is eternally true. Truth is the only thing that

01:01:36.840 is going to anchor us right now. So when people, for example, they get mad at you for telling the

01:01:43.060 truth about, you know, for example, what Kamala Harris has done in the way of abortion legislation,

01:01:47.720 and they say, oh, you know, that's not important right now. We just need to be celebrating the fact

01:01:50.920 that she is a woman of color. That kind of vapid emotionalism is not going to be what anchors you

01:01:57.820 and holds you down. It's really amazing the number of Christian women that I'm seeing celebrate that

01:02:02.760 as if your anatomy and your melanin count matters more than her ghoulish delight in the murder of

01:02:12.120 unborn children that has been demonstrated throughout her career. I mean, I talked about

01:02:16.500 this on Instagram. I won't get into it right now, all the policies that she has pushed.

01:02:21.120 I've talked about it so many times, and I'll talk about it again. But it's just amazing. If you don't

01:02:26.360 ground yourself in what is true and what is good and right and true according to Scripture,

01:02:31.380 according to reality, then you are going to lose your mind. You're going to let yourself get

01:02:35.280 manipulated. Remember, guys, we're supposed to be human salmon. We're supposed to be swimming

01:02:39.880 upstream, not going downstream with the culture. And so resist the manipulation. Resist the lying.

01:02:45.880 Resist the deceit. Resist the emotionalism and cling to what is true.

01:02:51.360 OK, that's all I got. I know this is a long episode. Donate to Kelly Loeffler

01:02:54.960 and David Perdue in Georgia. And for the love of all that is good, if you are in Georgia,

01:03:00.600 vote Republican in the Senate races and convince everyone else to as well.

01:03:04.500 I'll have more on that soon. OK, I'll be back here on Wednesday.

01:03:15.880 I'll be back here on Wednesday.

01:03:30.820 Bye.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - November 09, 2020

Ep 324 ｜ Possible Victory & Impossible Unity

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