Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 347 ｜ The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. We are continuing our four times a week. That

00:00:15.000 is the new development of Relatable Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Thank you so

00:00:19.840 much for listening so much that we have had to give you more content than before. And

00:00:25.680 this is a great week to start giving you more content because there is so much to talk about.

00:00:31.340 So last night, the Georgia election, guys, it did not go the way that Republicans wanted it to,

00:00:38.960 of course. I mean, this has been my focus since November, especially since it looked like Donald

00:00:43.900 Trump. I was going to lose the election to focus on these Senate races in Georgia because of

00:00:50.720 Democrats, as I've talked about before, control the White House, control the Senate and control

00:00:54.900 the House of Representatives. There is no piece of radical legislation that they will not try to

00:01:00.240 pass, especially if they try to get rid of the filibuster. That means that there will only be

00:01:06.380 a simple majority that's needed to pass their legislation. The reason that that's a problem

00:01:11.740 is because they've also said that they want to pack the Supreme Court, which means they would

00:01:15.880 expand the Supreme Court to 13 seats instead of the nine seats that there are right now.

00:01:21.460 And they would fill those additional four vacancies with liberal activist justices so that they would

00:01:30.900 control all branches of governments. They don't have to heed the Constitution at all. They can trample

00:01:36.080 on your constitutional rights as a result of that. And absolutely no one will be able to stop them.

00:01:41.800 Now, of course, living in a Republican state is a safeguard against these radical liberal policies,

00:01:48.860 like the Green New Deal, like socialized health care, like the mandatory gun buyback program that

00:01:55.420 Biden has promised, like the Equality Act. But it's going to be a tough go of it, especially if they

00:02:02.000 pack the Supreme Court. It's almost like there's no recourse in a lot of cases. And so that's why this

00:02:07.800 is scary. The so-called moderates and even the people who were, quote, lifelong Republicans that decided

00:02:13.300 to vote for Democrats in the name of decency have no idea what they just did. You have no idea what

00:02:19.280 they just did. It's very baffling to me that we can look across the country at every city that is

00:02:24.580 run by progressives. I'm not just talking about Democrats, but true progressives and see how the

00:02:30.060 city has deteriorated. And then for people to turn around and say, oh, let's keep electing those kinds

00:02:35.000 of people like Warnock and Ossoff. And so if you look at Atlanta, if you look at Austin, if you look at

00:02:40.240 Minneapolis, if you look at New York City, if you look at Seattle, if you look at Portland, if you

00:02:44.780 look at San Francisco, if you look at L.A., they have become less safe. The homelessness has

00:02:51.740 increased. The violence has increased. The murder has increased. They have become less livable places

00:02:58.540 under progressive leadership. It's not just a coincidence that all of these cities that are run

00:03:03.480 by these pretty far left officials have been run to the ground. That's what progressive policies do.

00:03:09.140 In the name of compassion, they promise handouts. They promise to do more for the people. And their

00:03:14.640 policies have the exact opposite result as the intentions of the policies. And yet people always

00:03:20.620 vote based on stated intentions of politicians. And because Democratic and liberal talking points

00:03:26.440 sound so good that, look, we're going to take care of the poor by giving them this. We're going to

00:03:30.280 provide this program. We're going to fight for your rights by doing this. They don't think about the

00:03:35.060 other end of that, that what's what is that going to cost? Is it actually going to help the homeless

00:03:39.000 community? Is this program actually going to help the poor? What has been the result of raising the

00:03:44.420 minimum wage in other places? Is this going to help the employment rates? Is this going to help,

00:03:49.700 you know, or funding the school unions or the teachers unions, giving more money to them or giving

00:03:56.240 more money to the public school system? Has that actually resulted in good things for students? The answer is no.

00:04:05.060 But people, most people, unfortunately, all of us left and right are very superficial. We're very

00:04:11.600 shallow. We don't think past what a politician tells us. We hear a promise, we hear a guarantee,

00:04:18.680 and we say, that sounds good. That sounds compassionate. That sounds sympathetic. And

00:04:22.820 we're going to vote for that without actually thinking about what are the consequences going to be.

00:04:27.840 If you look at the consequences of progressive policies and all the cities that I just listed,

00:04:32.880 it's not good. People's lives are not better. That's why people are fleeing those cities and

00:04:37.340 those states that are run by those far left politicians. Unfortunately, what happens is

00:04:41.980 that those people flee California. They move to places like Colorado, which is now blue because of

00:04:46.880 that, or they move to places like Nevada or Arizona, which are now at least purple because of that.

00:04:52.720 They move to places like Texas, which is probably going to go the direction of Georgia in a few years.

00:04:59.380 Uh, people, you know, from New York moved down to Florida for those reasons, the failure of

00:05:05.960 progressive policies, the tax policies, especially in some cases, and they keep voting the way that

00:05:12.320 they voted before because people vote based on conscience. People vote based on, like I said,

00:05:19.560 the promises that they're given by politicians. People vote based on these social and cultural issues.

00:05:26.020 And if you are a Democrat who thinks that Republicans hate poor people, that's what you've

00:05:30.600 been told. And that's what you believe. Or if you are a Democrat who, um, you believe that,

00:05:37.160 you know, Republicans hate the LGBTQ community and that they're taking away all of their rights or that

00:05:42.500 they're going to force women to be in the handmaid's tale or whatever it is that no matter,

00:05:49.520 no matter who the Republican politician is, no matter who the candidate is on the right side,

00:05:53.620 you're not going to vote for them. No matter how much you might have hated the Democrat politician,

00:05:58.600 uh, in the city that you fled from, it's very hard for Democrats who still hold those liberal

00:06:05.180 social values and have believed the liberal talking points their entire adult lives to then vote

00:06:10.780 Republican. And, uh, so there is a disconnect there, obviously. And yet it's, uh, you kind of

00:06:18.500 understand when you understand how the voter works. I mean, it's the same thing when you think about

00:06:23.400 some of the people, um, in Appalachia, for example, they always vote Republican, um, because of these

00:06:30.000 cultural and social issues, even though it has been establishment Republicans in a lot of cases

00:06:35.400 that have aided and abetted the outsourcing of jobs to China that has hurt these Appalachian

00:06:41.480 communities, uh, the most. And it's certainly, it wouldn't be better for them to vote for Democrats

00:06:46.660 either. But economically, these people in the middle of the country also haven't been helped

00:06:51.620 out by the Republicans that they vote for. People vote based on what they see as these heart issues,

00:06:57.720 as these social issues. Um, and so when we look at this Georgia election where Warnock has been

00:07:04.800 declared the winner and Ossoff, um, is looking, as I'm recording this right now, I'm recording this

00:07:10.460 on Wednesday morning. You're listening to this probably on Wednesday afternoon. Um, it looks like,

00:07:16.020 uh, Purdue or Ossoff is always also going to beat Purdue. Um, a lot of people are saying,

00:07:22.920 oh, this is because Mitch McConnell refused to, uh, to approve the $2,000 checks in the stimulus bill,

00:07:30.500 the way that Josh Hawley and Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump said that they, uh, said that they

00:07:36.120 wanted the Senate to do. But I guarantee you that is not the reason why people, why Republicans did not

00:07:42.720 vote for these Republican candidates in Georgia, because that is what happened. That was the big

00:07:47.560 issue here. Um, is that unfortunately there was lower Republican turnout than there was on November

00:07:53.360 3rd. And there was really good democratic turnout. Um, and I guarantee you that the reason why

00:08:00.200 Republicans didn't turn out is probably not because of the lack of the $2,000 checks, because the people

00:08:06.900 who did vote Republican voted for the reasons, not, not that the intellectuals on Twitter think

00:08:13.200 that they care about, not that the populace on Twitter think that they care about, but for these

00:08:17.880 cultural and social issues, they're thinking also about these constitutional issues. Most people who

00:08:22.640 voted for Republicans in Georgia are thinking, I don't want Democrats to control Congress and the

00:08:26.980 presidency. They're looking at, you know, I, I want to protect my second amendment rights. I want to

00:08:31.660 protect my religious liberty. I don't want my taxes to go up. I want there to, you know, I want the

00:08:37.120 Trump pre COVID economy. I want to protect my family. I want to protect my liberties. I don't like

00:08:43.760 socialism. I don't like socialized healthcare. I want to keep my guns. Like those are the issues that

00:08:48.880 people are voting on. The Republicans that did go out and vote Republican in Georgia were voting on

00:08:54.520 those issues. The people who didn't vote, I think there were a variety of factors at play here. And I got in

00:09:00.740 trouble on Twitter for talking about this, um, by the, the, the Trump stands who think that you

00:09:06.440 cannot criticize Trump and like still be an American or still be a conservative or even still

00:09:14.040 be a Christian. There are some people when I criticize Trump saying, wow, you've really,

00:09:17.820 you've lost your way and you are no longer like you're no longer a steward of God's truth anymore.

00:09:24.440 I mean, your head is in, your head is in the sand. Your head is in the sand. Uh, I voted

00:09:29.680 for Donald Trump twice. And I guarantee you, I have convinced, I convinced more people in 2020 to

00:09:37.120 vote for Donald Trump than any of the people accusing me of being a never Trumper did. I

00:09:43.940 guarantee it. And yet there are people calling me a never Trumper because I said, I think one of the

00:09:49.820 factors why Republicans had low turnout, especially in counties that really turned out for Trump on

00:09:56.100 November 3rd, um, is partly not completely, but partly because of, uh, Trump's constant

00:10:04.380 berating of Republican leadership in Georgia and convincing Georgian voters that you are

00:10:10.740 disenfranchised Republican voters, that you are disenfranchised, that the entire election was rigged

00:10:16.460 and that, uh, really your vote didn't count on November 3rd. Therefore, I think it's implied at

00:10:23.100 least if he didn't say this explicitly that your vote is not going to count on January 5th, um,

00:10:28.120 as well. And people pushed back on me. I said, you know, I don't think that Trump really cares that

00:10:32.860 much about the Senate races. I think he cares more about, you know, flipping Georgia for himself.

00:10:37.560 And people got mad. They said, he held two rallies. What are you talking about? Uh, this has,

00:10:43.600 you know, he, he definitely cared about the Senate. Well, if you watch the two rallies,

00:10:48.680 he mostly talked about fraud, like he mostly criticized Kemp. He mostly criticized Raffensperger,

00:10:55.180 which he has every right to do. And some of those criticisms and questions are certainly valid. I do

00:11:00.840 think that there was probably some funny business that went on in some of the counties on November 3rd

00:11:07.020 in Georgia. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't question those things, uh, for January 5th either,

00:11:13.160 but when you spend predominantly, uh, your time on calling into question the legitimacy of Georgia's

00:11:21.700 elections, yes, you are going to convince some people not to vote. I think some people, some

00:11:28.000 Republicans didn't vote because they actually saw it as an act of fidelity to Trump as a pledge of

00:11:33.280 allegiance to Donald Trump that is saying, you know what, I'm going to resist the system. I'm going

00:11:38.700 to resist the establishment. I'm going to resist what they think is the establishment neocon GOP that

00:11:45.620 didn't do enough to fight for Donald Trump like Mitch McConnell. And I'm going to stay home.

00:11:50.480 I definitely think that that played, um, a part in Republicans staying home. As I've said from the

00:11:57.320 beginning, you can have questions and concerns about the legitimacy of the election. I want an election

00:12:02.680 with integrity too. And I support the investigations into any claims of fraud. Of course, if it were

00:12:08.880 Democrat or Republican, I would support, uh, those investigations, whether or not it changes the outcome

00:12:15.040 of the election in the way of Donald Trump. But one way to ensure, I said, ensure Republicans lose in

00:12:23.060 Georgia is to just not vote. If Republicans turn out and they just dominate Democrats, it's going to be

00:12:29.140 impossible for Democrats to win by fraud. But instead, uh, I actually think if you look at the

00:12:37.200 campaign that Donald Trump and some other people ran in Georgia, um, questioning the leadership of

00:12:44.940 Georgia and questioning the legitimacy of Georgia's elections, I think that Republicans actually turned

00:12:50.160 out pretty well. A lot of Republicans did not listen to Donald Trump and did not listen to the people

00:12:54.980 who, uh, said that Georgians, I mean, Trump didn't say that Georgians shouldn't vote, but some people

00:13:00.500 in support of Trump were saying that Georgians shouldn't vote. So I think considering that a lot

00:13:05.560 of Georgians did not listen to that line of reasoning and went out and voted anyway. But I do think that

00:13:11.000 Trump's rhetoric and his constant focus on Georgia as almost like the center of fraud absolutely

00:13:18.420 had an effect. Um, I think that he could have been stronger and saying, okay, look, these are the

00:13:25.400 problems I have with Georgia. These are the questions and concerns that I have, but I think he should have

00:13:31.040 been also really, really strong and really emphatic about people going out and voting still. Now that's a

00:13:38.800 really contradictory message. I understand, um, to say, but, um, it is important. I do think I stand by what I

00:13:48.160 said on Twitter. I do think that Donald Trump is laser focused on his election and, uh, what he wants to

00:13:55.600 happen. I think that he would rather Georgia fall probably than people stop fighting, uh, for him to win

00:14:03.800 that state. If you look at what he has focused on over the past few weeks, he has focused on Georgia fraud

00:14:10.360 more than Pennsylvania fraud, more than Nevada, more than Arizona, more than any other, uh, uh, state that has

00:14:17.040 these allegations of fraud. He is focused on Georgia. I mean, the day before the election, he was posting

00:14:23.040 things about the fraud in Georgia. His rally was focused on the fraud in Georgia and campaigning

00:14:28.500 against Kemp and Raffensperger. And again, I'm not saying that some of that criticism isn't absolutely

00:14:33.980 legitimate. He obviously has a right to say those things, but again, did it probably have a part effect

00:14:40.980 on the result of the election and, and Republican Georgians not turning out to vote? Yes, I absolutely

00:14:47.380 think so. And just to give credit to the Democrats, like they have had their eyes on Georgia. They were

00:14:54.040 laser focused on Georgia. Not, I mean, not for the presidency and they weren't fighting the same

00:15:00.360 battle. Unfortunately, that Republicans were, Republicans were split between focusing on the

00:15:04.460 presidency and focusing on the Senate, but, um, Stacey Abrams led her coalition and led her people

00:15:11.820 to make sure that voters got out to vote. And she especially focused on black voters in Georgia and

00:15:19.300 Hispanic voters in Georgia turning out to vote. And they did black turnout in Georgia was phenomenal.

00:15:26.180 And I think that Stacey Abrams strategy was like, look, I know there are a lot more Democrats in Georgia

00:15:30.940 than typically show up to vote. I think that she went into a lot of these urban communities,

00:15:35.520 especially, and said, I'm going to make sure that all of these people vote. And historically,

00:15:39.880 Republicans have ignored those communities. Republicans, uh, have instead focused on the

00:15:45.820 people that they think are guaranteed. And they've said, you know what, we're not even going to bother.

00:15:49.980 I'm not saying necessarily that these campaigns completely ignore these communities,

00:15:53.340 but Republicans in general, historically have ignored these communities, haven't tried to reach out

00:15:58.780 to these communities, um, have it tried to change minds in these communities, but instead have allowed

00:16:05.640 the Democrats to kind of expand their control and expand their influence, um, uh, really across all

00:16:12.980 demographics, but especially in that demographic. And so we do have to give some credit where it's due to

00:16:18.900 the Democrats who worked a really hard ground game. So we can't fully blame president Trump. I also think,

00:16:25.720 by the way, if I'm saying that Donald Trump didn't really care that much about the Senate races,

00:16:29.960 I also don't think Mitch McConnell probably cared that much about the Senate races. We didn't hear

00:16:33.620 a lot from him either on this. Um, I think most people are concerned with their own power and their

00:16:39.240 own elections. I think that's probably true. Like I like a lot of what governor Kemp does. I think that

00:16:45.480 he has an awesome family. I don't think he's some kind of closet liberal or anything like that,

00:16:50.380 but I think that, you know, he's concerned with his own self too. Like he is concerned with his own

00:16:55.140 political career and his own power. Most people, Donald Trump included are very self-interested

00:17:00.680 when it comes to this kind of stuff. And I don't think Republicans, uh, rallied together enough to

00:17:06.340 support Loeffler and, uh, Purdue. So I think that's part of the problem. I think that Democrats were

00:17:11.480 extremely unified in that. I think Democrats probably did a better job of turning out the vote,

00:17:16.300 um, especially in, uh, black and Hispanic communities that Republicans just aren't as good,

00:17:23.740 um, at reaching. And so you might see like some people last night were seeing the numbers and

00:17:29.200 they were like, Oh no, I see that Loeffler and Purdue were actually ahead. Why are you saying

00:17:33.820 that Warnock is going to win? Or why are you, why are people calling the race for Warnock? Or why are

00:17:38.720 people saying that Ossoff is going to win? And so the way that these predictions work is that they're

00:17:43.240 not just looking at the number of votes that have been tallied and the percentage of, of those votes

00:17:49.080 that are going to a specific candidate, they're also looking at where votes have not been counted.

00:17:54.860 So as I am speaking, we're looking at DeKalb County, Fulton County, and Chatham County,

00:18:00.680 which Chatham County, my husband and all of his family is from Georgia. I originally pronounced

00:18:06.100 Chatham and he corrected me. It is Chatham County. I did not realize that apparently it's like a British

00:18:11.960 word, but I did know it's DeKalb because I used to live in Georgia too. And I remember that. So

00:18:16.420 we're waiting on DeKalb and Fulton and Chatham as I am speaking right now anyway. And those are all

00:18:23.940 heavily Democratic counties. And so when people are making these predictions about Warnock winning,

00:18:30.220 about Ossoff winning, they're looking at the number of votes that are actually needed

00:18:34.880 for Loeffler or Purdue to win. And then they are looking at the votes that have yet to be counted and

00:18:39.580 what counties they are coming from. And they're saying, okay, it either is possible for Purdue to make

00:18:46.060 up his, to keep his win or Loeffler to keep her lead. Or it's not based on the amount of votes

00:18:54.380 that they are probably, that each candidate is probably going to get. So that's how that works.

00:18:58.880 That even if you saw for some reason last night that, okay, with 86% and we've got Loeffler at 51

00:19:05.560 and we've got Warnock at 49, but they already called the race for Warnock. That's because they knew

00:19:12.160 that the counties that had yet to be counted were going to go for Warnock. So that is how that works.

00:19:18.100 As I'm speaking right now, the New York Times is predicting very much so that Ossoff is going to

00:19:26.960 win. It's very likely Ossoff, which is just crazy. I mean, these two candidates, as I've talked about

00:19:32.140 a lot on this podcast, Ossoff and especially Warnock are terrible. Like they're terrible candidates.

00:19:37.200 Warnock is, I mean, you cannot anymore. Maybe this is just a good thing. Everyone in Georgia

00:19:44.340 who said that they were voting for Trump or voting for Biden based on decency and based on morality,

00:19:50.260 and then went out and voted for Warnock, you lost it. You lost it. You lost any kind of upper hand you

00:19:56.960 had because Warnock is 10 times worse, the allegations against him as the ones against Donald Trump. But I'm

00:20:05.040 not saying we should dismiss allegations against Donald Trump and not care about them. But we're

00:20:09.560 talking about a guy who is currently, not 25 years ago, currently being accused of abusing his wife.

00:20:15.360 Currently, his wife is accusing him of being a sociopathic abuser. And we're talking about a guy

00:20:21.160 who was arrested for trying to stop the investigation into child abuse at the church camp that he was the

00:20:28.680 head of when he was the pastor of that church. And I read the testimony of the guy who is now 30 when he

00:20:33.820 was 12 years old. He had urine poured all over him and was forced to sleep outside. And apparently this

00:20:38.940 happened to a lot of campers at the church camp that he was, that Warnock was the head of. And he tried

00:20:45.300 to stop the investigation into that and was actually arrested. So he's a child abuse enabler. He's an

00:20:50.600 accused wife abuser. I mean, not to mention all of his radical policy ideas. He thinks America needs to

00:20:58.000 repent of whiteness, that police officers are thugs. He said that Jeremiah Wright's sermon, God de America

00:21:05.320 was Christian preaching at its finest. He says that Marxism is fine. He has praised Fidel Castro. I mean, this is

00:21:11.780 the most radical guy. He is radically pro-abortion. He is pro all of the anti-religious liberty, pro-LGBTQ

00:21:21.900 issues that you can possibly think of. And yet you had professing Christians in Georgia saying,

00:21:27.500 yes, this is the guy that I'm voting for based on decency. I just have to think that most people

00:21:32.160 don't even, they don't even know. They don't even know what issues he actually stands for. And so

00:21:36.460 any moral high ground that you thought that you had voting for Biden, which I don't believe that

00:21:40.460 you had in the first place, because also allegations against Biden were just as bad too. You definitely

00:21:45.800 lost by voting for Warnock. And so you don't have any moral right to turn around and to say to a

00:21:53.060 Trump voter, how could you vote for this person who was accused of all of these things? You voted for

00:21:57.260 Warnock. I mean, nasty, nasty swamp creature that is going to the swamp. And Ossoff is also a swamp

00:22:04.480 creature. I mean, every bit as swampy as any other politician. And so this is going to be, you know,

00:22:12.620 this is going to be tough stuff. This is going to be difficult, difficult for us to watch because

00:22:20.880 there's going to be radical legislation that is going to be passed. Joe Manchin and other moderate

00:22:27.620 Democrats are going to have a very powerful and pressured position in the Senate to try to stop

00:22:34.760 some of this stuff from happening because they realize that if they vote for some radical legislation

00:22:39.460 like the Equality Act or to end the filibuster, to pack the Supreme Court, gun buyback program,

00:22:44.820 socialized health care, the Green New Deal, then they're not going to get reelected by Joe Manchin

00:22:49.660 like West Virginians, for example. And so it's going to be a battle. And now is not the time for us to

00:22:57.160 retreat. Like you might be thinking that, oh, there's nothing I can do anymore. I voted. I have

00:23:02.140 convinced all the people I can convince. And now I'm just going to not pay attention. I'm just going to

00:23:06.120 turn the news off and I'm not going to watch what's happening. Yeah, that's exactly what the

00:23:11.100 media wants you to do. That's exactly what Democrats want you to do. They do not want you to be paying

00:23:15.460 attention to the legislation that they're going to pass because they want to win in the midterms.

00:23:19.480 Remember, Warnock has to run again in just two years. He doesn't get six years. He has to run again

00:23:24.560 in just two years. And so he benefits from you not paying attention. Democrats always benefit from

00:23:30.040 people from people being ignorant and apathetic. And so ensure that that's not you. We have to keep

00:23:37.340 paying attention. We have to hold our elected officials accountable. We have to look at the

00:23:41.540 policies that are being passed and what can be done in the areas that we live. Now, we can't get

00:23:46.240 paranoid. We can't get obsessed over it. We can't let it steal our joy. We can't pretend that our hope

00:23:51.880 and our trust is resting on these politicians because thankfully they're not. It's not. But we do have to

00:23:59.700 be paying attention and we have to push back where we can. The biggest thing is going to be the culture

00:24:03.180 war. I mean, they are going to be as radicalized as ever to try to change the language, to try to

00:24:09.100 change the public opinion about abortion, about gender, about all of the issues that you hold dear.

00:24:15.700 And you're going to have to hold the line. Regular Americans are going to have to hold the line.

00:24:20.980 So that's where we are. Also today, we'll talk about tomorrow, the Congress and

00:24:29.260 verifying the electoral votes and everything that's happening there. We talked about it

00:24:35.420 yesterday. I explained that, but we'll talk about it more tomorrow as well. Okay. I know I spent a

00:24:40.340 long time on that, but that's a really big story. We're going to quickly talk about two other stories.

00:24:45.360 Kamala Harris saying that freedom was the only thing that she wanted. Yes, freedom with a W

00:24:52.540 when she was a toddler. And then we are going to finish by talking about Christian rapper Lecrae.

00:25:00.560 We'll be right back. All right. I want to quickly talk about this Kamala Harris story because it's just

00:25:16.960 funny. So she had, she had an interview with Elle magazine and it was this very glowing story about

00:25:28.100 her, about how wonderful her laugh is and how she's a freedom fighter. And she tells this story about

00:25:34.840 when she is a toddler. She was apparently at this protest at this march with her mom and she was in

00:25:42.140 a stroller and you know, strollers back then she said, didn't really have very many safety features.

00:25:47.300 And so she kept falling out of her stroller and she was fussing and she was whining about it. And her

00:25:52.820 mom was like, Kamala, what's wrong? What do you need? And she looked up at her mom, according to her

00:26:00.180 and said, freedom. Now, the funny thing about this story, I mean, it's ridiculous on its face. It's

00:26:08.820 absolutely farcical on its face. I guarantee you that it did not happen. And if it did happen,

00:26:13.660 she doesn't remember it. Her mom probably didn't remember it and tell her about it. I mean,

00:26:17.780 completely fake. And you know how I know it's fake is because it was almost verbatim lifted from a

00:26:23.540 story that Martin Luther King told Playboy back in the 1960s. In a 1965 interview published by Playboy,

00:26:33.220 Martin Luther King told a story about he was at a march in Birmingham and a white policeman accosted

00:26:41.080 a little girl, seven or eight years old, who was walking in a demonstration with her mother.

00:26:46.560 And the policeman said to the little girl, apparently, according to Martin Luther King Jr.,

00:26:52.300 what do you want? And she looked him straight in the eye and answered, feed him. And so this is a story

00:27:00.300 that Kamala Harris heard and that she decided that not enough people knew the Martin Luther King story.

00:27:07.320 And so she was going to tell it as her own. I mean, it is just cringe to the max. And let me just

00:27:12.880 also say that it's a very odd part of the story that she says that she fell out of the stroller

00:27:21.300 multiple times. And she said that her mom didn't notice that she fell out of the stroller. No one

00:27:26.680 noticing that she was fussy. That's terrible parenting. You're saying you don't notice that

00:27:30.700 your little toddler fell out of the stroller multiple times and that you had to ask her what

00:27:36.840 was wrong when she was complaining. I can't I cannot even imagine that happening. Why would you tell that

00:27:42.780 story? That's very embarrassing for a mother. If your toddler falls out of a stroller multiple times

00:27:47.620 and you literally don't notice and you have to ask her what's wrong and she says, feed him.

00:27:53.120 It's just the most ridiculous thing. But of course, the media, the mainstream media is not going to

00:27:58.860 call her out on this. Now, if Donald Trump or if Melania did something like this or Ivanka did

00:28:05.640 something like this, if Mike Pence did something like this, it would be everywhere. I mean, they would

00:28:10.640 be lambasted. They would be mocked. It would be on every nightly news show. But of course, the media,

00:28:17.780 they don't really care. They don't really care that she lifted this from Martin Luther King Jr.,

00:28:21.760 which is totally disrespectful, by the way. They don't care that she's lying about this because

00:28:26.220 now all of a sudden she is this heroine that they bow down to, even though she wasn't even able to

00:28:34.080 pull above one percent in the presidential primary. But this is what we have to look forward to for the

00:28:40.220 next few years. The media, who pretended that they were heroes for covering Donald Trump in a way that

00:28:47.720 every single one of their colleagues was covering, that they were going to get no legitimate pushback

00:28:52.060 for, are now going to be covering Biden and Harris as if they are gods. There's not going to be any

00:29:00.220 serious criticism of them. There's not going to be any serious coverage of them. So we can just look

00:29:06.300 forward to these celebrity profiles that don't ask any kind of tough questions. And again, that is why

00:29:11.080 it's so important for us to pay attention and for us to ask those tough questions. And I'm, you know,

00:29:16.540 I'm very thankful for the ability to be able to talk about this stuff on Twitter and for conservatives

00:29:25.460 to be able to point this stuff out or else no one would know it. And that, of course, is why

00:29:30.440 conservative voices are so often silenced. That is why Democrats especially are for censorship on

00:29:36.260 social media because they don't want someone like me or any other conservative to be able to point

00:29:41.840 out that, hey, Kamala Harris actually plagiarized that. Actually, that's not a real story. And that's

00:29:46.720 really offensive. And it's really stupid. And it's really dumb that the media won't actually call that

00:29:50.940 out. They want to be the only voice. They want to be the only ones with a megaphone convincing people.

00:29:58.080 But that, again, is why you are so important. It's why it's so important for all of us to actually dig

00:30:03.760 into things rather than just believing headlines and believing these glowing reviews of people.

00:30:08.880 It really is. It really is crazy. OK, that's really all I have to say about that. I just wanted you to

00:30:14.860 be aware of the freedom story that that that is what we're up against. Like, that's what we're going

00:30:20.220 to be dealing with for the next few years. You're going to have to dig and dig and dig for the truth

00:30:24.360 of what's going on in this administration. You're going to have to look into what the Justice

00:30:28.120 Department is doing. You're going to have to look in to what Kamala Harris is advocating. You're going to

00:30:32.340 have to look into the executive orders that are being pushed forward and the executive orders by

00:30:36.920 Trump that are being rescinded. You're going to have to look into the legislation that is being

00:30:41.300 pushed and then passed by a Democratic Congress. That is going to be your responsibility. That,

00:30:46.660 of course, is my responsibility to help you do that. But if you just rely on the media, if you just

00:30:52.580 rely on The New York Times, if you just rely on Elle or Vanity Fair or Teen Vogue, hopefully that's not

00:30:57.400 where you get your news. You're not going to get the truth. You're going to get ridiculous stuff like

00:31:00.620 this. And the same was true for Trump. I mean, there were legitimate reasons to criticize Trump,

00:31:05.200 but so much of the coverage was unfair. You can't let that dictate what you feel about a politician

00:31:09.680 either. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of work to get to the truth. And the media is betting on most

00:31:14.820 people staying apathetic and ignorant. Again, leftists always benefit from apathy and ignorance.

00:31:20.880 It's just it's just how it is. So you have to refuse to be that. All right. That's all I have to say on

00:31:26.460 that. Now we're going to talk about our friend Lecrae. All right. I want to talk to you guys about

00:31:42.540 something that you have been asking me about, and that is the Christian rapper Lecrae. So most of you

00:31:48.820 are familiar. If you're like me, you listen to him a lot in the early 2000s. You know, the 2010s era,

00:31:55.440 when I was in college, all of my Christian friends knew Lecrae. We loved Lecrae, especially every guy

00:32:00.860 that I knew loved Lecrae. Like not just, oh yeah, listen to his music casually, but really,

00:32:06.060 really loved him because he was a trailblazer, is a trailblazer in the scene of Christian rap. And

00:32:12.060 he was supported and elevated and pushed forward by a lot of evangelical leaders because this guy was

00:32:19.140 criticizing rap culture, but he was still using the same beats that other rappers were using.

00:32:24.980 He was talking about stuff that no one else was talking about. He was sharing the gospel

00:32:30.160 with a unique platform that other people in the contemporary Christian music realm,

00:32:36.860 they weren't trying to do and they weren't willing to do. And so we have to respect Lecrae and what he

00:32:44.160 did. And he was one of the first people to do it. And he was one of the best people to do it.

00:32:51.980 And he really changed Christian music in a lot of ways. It takes a lot of bravery,

00:32:57.940 a lot of boldness to say, I'm going to do this thing that I don't see anyone else doing.

00:33:03.980 I don't know how people are going to receive it, but saying, hey, I believe in the gospel. Jesus has

00:33:09.220 transformed my life and I'm not just going to sing about it and play the piano and acoustic guitar

00:33:14.100 about it. I'm going to rap about it. And you don't know how that's going to be received.

00:33:18.240 You don't know if people are going to like it or if people are going to shut you off just because

00:33:22.280 they don't like people talking fast and rhyming. But he did that. And I have a lot of respect for

00:33:28.220 that. And, you know, his music is still really good. Now, over the past few years, he has shifted

00:33:35.540 in some of his public stances when it comes to things like social justice, when it comes to police

00:33:40.060 brutality, especially in the past few months. He has been very vocal about his support for Black

00:33:44.660 Lives Matter and Democratic politicians. He actually gave a speech at a Warnock rally. And

00:33:52.780 I'll play you a little bit of that. In the spirit of Dr. Martin Luther King, in the spirit of,

00:33:59.400 you know, Andrew Young, I want to continue to remind us that we're free. We are free now to vote.

00:34:05.880 So let's get out there and make sure we do that. Set me free. Let's get into it, man.

00:34:09.340 So this was very, this was disappointing to me, not because I think that Christians can't disagree

00:34:15.720 on politics, because we definitely can't. Like I've said many times, and I truly believe

00:34:21.440 that you don't have to be some big, you know, Republican or Donald Trump fan in order to be a

00:34:29.880 righteous Christian. Of course, I'm not the arbiter of that. And I don't think that your allegiance to

00:34:36.540 a particular politician denotes how faithful you are as a Christian, but some things are theological

00:34:43.380 and not political. So the support, while I don't think that you had to have voted for Loeffler

00:34:48.920 or Perdue to, you know, prove that you're a faithful Christian, I do think that some things are called

00:34:55.760 into question when you support a pro-abortion politician. That's not a political statement.

00:35:01.260 That's a theological reality. Like that does have to do with your faith. That does have to do

00:35:06.960 with what you think about who the authority is of the heavens and the earth and what you think about

00:35:12.520 his word. If you support a guy who has been outright against biblical, the biblical definition of gender,

00:35:19.100 the biblical definition of marriage, protecting life inside the womb, who was radical on all of these

00:35:25.700 issues, especially when it comes to abortion and has taken hundreds of thousands of dollars from

00:35:30.060 Planned Parenthood, the number one killer of black babies, then I do have to question your theological

00:35:37.400 views. Now, I am not the person to say, you know, I can't damn anyone's soul to hell, nor do I want to

00:35:44.580 have that responsibility. I don't pretend to have that responsibility or ability to be able to do that.

00:35:52.060 But I can look at someone's support of particular policies or a politician who pushes particular

00:36:00.180 policies that, again, for the Christian, are not political, but are rather theological issues,

00:36:06.620 really have nothing to do with our politics, but have to do with what we think about God and his word.

00:36:10.740 And then I do have to question, okay, like what's going on here? But the fact of the matter is,

00:36:16.500 is that it seems like from what we've seen, what we've seen publicly, I'm not just deducing things

00:36:24.020 here, or I'm not trying to dig around for dirt. It seems that he has moved to the left politically.

00:36:30.580 He has embraced a lot of liberation theology from what I've seen publicly. He has embraced a lot of

00:36:35.920 critical race theory. And while that has happened, his theology has changed. There was an interview that

00:36:42.840 he recently did with a guy named DJ Vlad. And I posted these videos, this interview on social

00:36:50.660 media so people could know I'm not just like making this up. But he was asked about Chick-fil-A and his

00:36:58.340 involvement with Chick-fil-A, knowing that Chick-fil-A has made statements about the importance of

00:37:04.200 biblical marriages between a man and a woman and supporting the natural nuclear biblical family.

00:37:10.860 And he said that he never knew about that, that Lecrae didn't know that that was their stance,

00:37:19.180 that he doesn't ask about that kind of thing. He said that that was news to him. And then he was

00:37:23.000 pressed more on it. He was pressed more on what he thinks about biblical marriage, what he thinks

00:37:28.140 about sexuality. And he said, look, I don't, basically, I don't know. I'm a lifelong learner. I'm

00:37:34.160 trying to look at perspectives. It's very similar to the answer that Lauren Daigle gave. And so

00:37:38.640 this is, these are DJ Vlad interviews there on YouTube. Please go watch it for yourself. I am

00:37:43.920 not trying to put words in his mouth. I am not trying to say that he said something that he

00:37:49.320 didn't say. I'm not making any kind of false accusations. This is all public stuff that you

00:37:53.540 can see his response to the question about what biblical marriage is, the biblical definition

00:37:58.040 of gender and whether or not he supports that. And he was unable to answer it. And so that is the

00:38:04.140 trajectory that we always see happen. Almost always. I shouldn't say always. Almost always.

00:38:09.580 When you accept secular and leftist forms of justice, and when you start embracing intersectionality

00:38:17.940 and you embrace critical race theory, that almost always seeps into the rest of your theology to where

00:38:23.200 you can't even reaffirm Genesis 1, which says God made them male and female and brought them together

00:38:29.920 to be fruitful and multiply. That is almost always what happens. And unfortunately, that is the

00:38:35.240 trajectory that we have seen with this amazing Christian rapping trailblazer who a lot of people

00:38:42.860 look to as a hero in the faith, that he is no longer able to confidently answer these very basic

00:38:49.720 theological questions. He has also been pretty outspoken about that he doesn't think that we need to be

00:38:56.360 making abortion legal. Now, he does call himself pro-life. He does call himself pro-life, but he

00:39:01.380 also just campaigned for two very radically, not just pro-choice, but pro-abortion candidates.

00:39:07.220 And so he has talked about before, you know, we need to, rather than making it illegal, we actually,

00:39:13.000 I went back and forth with him on Twitter on this, then we need to focus on, you know, taking care of

00:39:19.580 these women so they don't feel like they need to have abortions. We need to focus on health care.

00:39:23.120 We need to focus on, you know, systemic discrimination and racism and things like that.

00:39:27.740 But the thing is, is I told him and I've told you guys so many times, and as this community

00:39:32.400 in Relatable has proven so many times, is that pro-lifers do those things, that we are not just

00:39:38.580 pro-birth, that we give so much of our time and our energy and our money to helping families in crisis

00:39:44.860 and families in need so that they don't feel like they have to, in scare quotes, have to have an

00:39:50.600 abortion. We do resource those people and resource those lives. And what we hear constantly from the

00:39:56.000 left is that because you don't support a welfare state, you are actually just pro-birth and not,

00:40:02.280 and not really pro-life. No, I take money out of my own pocket to help those people. And so do you

00:40:08.160 guys. It is a myth to say that pro-lifers don't take care of people who are in need. We give so much

00:40:14.660 of what we have, so much of our time to people in need. We are not just campaigning for anti-abortion

00:40:19.740 legislation, which we do, by the way, because we believe in this radical, very fundamental,

00:40:24.840 simple, simple reality that human beings inside the womb are people, that they're humans, and

00:40:31.580 therefore they are deserving of human rights, the most fundamental and basic of which is the right

00:40:36.400 to life as an innocent person. And so, yes, I am anti-abortion when it comes to the law.

00:40:41.500 I am pro-life when it comes to how I spend my time and my resources. But as I've said before,

00:40:48.800 you cannot consider yourself pro-life unless you meet the very basic, basic qualification

00:40:55.420 of believing that life inside the womb should be legally protected. Like, if you think it should

00:41:00.480 be legal to slaughter a baby inside the womb, you can't turn around to people who think that should

00:41:05.220 be illegal and call them not really pro-life. Just because you support, as I've said many

00:41:11.400 times, a politician taking money from people who are richer than you and giving it to people who

00:41:16.240 are poorer than you, that does not make you pro-life, especially if you are someone who thinks

00:41:21.420 that a child inside the womb is just a choice. It should be a legal choice. And so, unfortunately,

00:41:29.040 publicly, again, I'm not just making deductions and making leaps here. Lecrae has, he has put himself

00:41:37.980 in that camp of saying, you know, I'm going to vote for the politicians that want to make it as

00:41:41.600 legal and as accessible as possible. But he believes they actually push the policies that

00:41:47.460 reduce abortions, even though, as we've talked about on this podcast, democratic policies do not

00:41:52.060 reduce abortions. There's absolutely no data proving that whatsoever. So some of you have asked

00:41:58.120 me for clarity, like, what's going on with Lecrae? I don't know him personally. I have gone back and

00:42:03.240 forth with him on Twitter. He makes the assertion very often publicly, and then he deletes it. I've

00:42:08.500 seen this happen twice, where he says that evangelicals hate him, or people who disagree

00:42:13.540 with him on these social justice issues hate him. I do not hate him. I don't know any evangelical that

00:42:19.560 hates him. I'm sure there are some that proclaiming evangelicals that do. Unfortunately, I get my share

00:42:24.920 of hate mail. But I don't even think all liberals hate me. I don't think all people on the other side

00:42:31.220 of the aisle hate me, quite honestly, like, I'm not arrogant enough to think that they're thinking

00:42:35.980 about me. Like, I don't think that they focus on me enough to even hate me. And I think that

00:42:40.620 Lecrae should realize that the people who disagree with him on these issues just disagree with him.

00:42:47.160 Like, I don't hate him in the slightest. I am very thankful for a lot of what he has contributed

00:42:53.760 to the Christian music world. And I think that he's an extremely talented person with a huge platform.

00:43:00.120 I just think he's wrong on some issues. I think he's veered off course on some issues.

00:43:06.400 And I am not questioning his soul. Like I said, I don't have the ability or the desire to do

00:43:13.240 anything like that. But I disagree with him on some really big things that I don't actually believe

00:43:17.480 to be fundamentally political, but to actually be theological. And that's, I mean, that's a big deal.

00:43:22.560 And he probably disagrees with me on some things. And that's fine. That's fine. But this is someone who

00:43:27.180 is making these statements publicly, who has millions and millions of followers, who has a

00:43:32.320 big influence inside the church. And so I do think it's important for me to talk about things like

00:43:35.880 that and explain why I disagree and why I'm concerned. It doesn't come from a place of hate at

00:43:42.220 all. It comes from a place of love. Definitely. Like, I have no reason at all to hate him or anyone for

00:43:51.020 that matter. And I hope that he realizes that. But it is easier to dismiss criticism when you say that

00:43:57.860 all of your critics just hate you because then you've delegitimized them and you don't have to

00:44:02.220 listen to them. But as long as we do that, we're never going to be able to humbly grow. It might be

00:44:06.500 true that a lot of your critics hate you and they might be wrong, but not always, not always. And so

00:44:13.040 I think it's important for all of us, not just Lecrae, but for all of us to keep that in mind.

00:44:19.060 Okay. Shorter episode today, 45 minutes. We're getting there. I told you guys I'm trying to keep

00:44:24.440 it to 30 minutes, but it's 15 minutes shorter than it was yesterday, which is good. So we're

00:44:30.600 going to keep on working on that. Okay. We're going to be back tomorrow talking about what's happening

00:44:34.640 in Congress today, January 6th. We're going to talk about what's happening in Argentina. And then I also

00:44:40.440 want to talk about the Ravi Zacharias allegations that a lot of you guys have asked me about

00:44:45.040 sexual assault allegations, sexual harassment allegations. So we're going to talk about all

00:44:49.060 of that tomorrow as well. I will see you guys then.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - January 06, 2021

Ep 347 ｜ The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia

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