Ep 362 ｜ Decentering AOC & Reassessing BLM
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Alex Brinson was supposed to be on the podcast today, but he was unable to make it due to scheduling conflicts with his book, so I had to make a last minute change to the podcast. I talk about AOC's comments on sexual assault, and why I think she deserves the Nobel Prize for Peace.
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So we've got to change, a last minute change yet again in our podcast.
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So this is the second time I've tried to get Alex Brinson on my podcast, had him scheduled.
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And then last minute, unfortunately, he has been unable to come on the podcast.
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If you don't know, he's the guy, he used to work for the New York Times, and he has been
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very thoroughly and consistently reporting on the side of coronavirus reporting that
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So he'll look at the data of masks, he'll look at the data of the rate of infections
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and hospitalizations and some of the background of the vaccines and report on those things
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that a lot of people, unfortunately, just aren't willing to talk about.
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And we literally got like a text or an email a couple minutes before the interview that
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Also, he was going to promote a book and you guys are just so I just have like the most
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Whenever I have someone on to promote their book and I've had several people on to talk
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First of all, I just want to let you guys know I only have people on to talk about their
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books that I know are going to be interesting to you, not just you know, I don't just have
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But you guys are so supportive and always go out and buy their book and you follow them
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and you really want to support the people that I go to as a resource or that I listen
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I always talk about how I have the greatest and smartest and most thoughtful and encouraging
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Like I probably I mean, I know that I don't have, you know, the same size audiences, a lot
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of people out there, but I do have a ton of you.
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And the many, many, many of you who do listen to this podcast are also just so involved and
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And on that note, if you do love this podcast, please go and give a five star review.
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If those are your honest feelings about the podcast, leave a five star review on Apple
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And since I won't be promoting someone else's book, if you haven't read my book, you're not
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enough and that's OK, escaping the toxic culture of self love that came out in August, then
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If you don't want to buy it on Amazon, I completely understand.
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I'm trying my best not to support Amazon either and try to support some smaller, smaller
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You can just go to my website, AllieBethStuckey.com book, and you can see all the places where you
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But it's particularly geared toward young women, but it really can be applicable to anyone.
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OK, so today I've had to take the last few minutes to kind of reassess what we're going
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I want to make a clarifying comment about the about the vaccine.
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So last week when I was supposed to have him on and I ended up ended up talking about the
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vaccine on my own, I talked about John Piper's view on vaccines that are using fetal cell
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lines or using those fetal cell lines for research and testing versus Albert Mohler's view
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What I don't think that I made clear is something that I'm going to in just one second about
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the actual use and the how of the use of these fetal cell lines in the vaccine for you to
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So I'm sorry for not being as clear as I should have been last week.
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But then we're also going to talk about AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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As she revealed on an Instagram live last night that she is a survivor of sexual assault.
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And she was talking about this in conjunction with talking about the Capitol riot.
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And so I do want to talk about what I think we should give her credit for.
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And then what I think is fair criticism of her, not just in that particular statement,
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And then we're also going to talk about if we have time, that's going to kind of bring
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us into this yet again, this compare and contrast hypocrisy double standard when it comes to
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chastising, rightly chastising the violence that we saw at the Capitol riot versus the
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violence that we've saw that we've seen across America's cities for the last few months.
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We'll talk about Black Lives Matter being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize and what I
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think about all of that and hopefully I'll have time to end on some encouragement as well.
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So let's go ahead and get started with this clarifying part or this clarifying statement
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that I want to make about fetal cells being used in the development of the coronavirus vaccine.
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Now, there may be other reasons why you don't want to get the vaccine.
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Maybe you're skeptical about how quick the process was.
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Maybe you don't think that there's been enough research, there's been enough data, there's
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been some conflicting information that we talked about last week.
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I believe it was last Thursday or last Wednesday.
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I don't remember that we talked about some of the conflicting messages that we've been getting,
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not just about vaccines, but about coronavirus, about masks and different things like that.
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You might be pregnant or you might be breastfeeding and you see that the CDC says, yes, it's totally
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And then you see the WHO that says, ah, we actually don't have enough data on this.
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You probably shouldn't take the vaccine if you are pregnant or breastfeeding.
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And so maybe you're not taking the vaccine for those reasons.
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Maybe it has nothing to do with the fetal cell aspect of it.
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But for a lot of Christians who are not anti-vax, and by the way, let me just say, I do not mean
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I know that a lot of people use that term to just throw aside or marginalize all people
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As I made very clear last week, I don't think that every curious person, every skeptical person,
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not just about vaccines, but about scientism, as I call it, or scientific findings or medicine
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or suggestions that the medical community gives, anyone who has questions or skepticism surrounding
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those things shouldn't just be pushed to the side as this conspiracy theorist or an anti-vaxxer.
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Because some people who have genuine questions because the medical community sometimes gets it wrong,
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scientists sometimes get it wrong, vaccine developers sometimes get it wrong.
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I mean, we can look throughout just the past 30 years alone, and we can see several times where,
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you know, the medical community made a mistake.
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But when I say anti-vaxxer, I am not just saying everyone who has any question about a vaccine,
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you're so stupid and you haven't done any research.
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I'm literally talking about people who are anti-vaccine.
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And there are people who are anti-vaccine for several reasons.
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I know that phrase is used as just a demeaning pejorative, and that's not how I mean it.
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I used to say just vax-hesitant, but then I got messages from people saying,
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I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm not just vax-hesitant.
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There are some people who don't even care at all anything about the research behind
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vaccines who are just very pro-vaccination, or they do care about the research behind
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And so there's a spectrum of feelings about vaccines.
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When I say anti-vaxxer, I'm not trying to just be this rude, demeaning person who is
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categorizing everyone who has any skepticism or questions towards the medical community
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and quote, big pharma, I'm not just throwing everyone in one anti-vaxxer basket.
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So you could be someone who has questions about the COVID-19 vaccine, who is not, uh, not an
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You're not vax-hesitant, but you do have, um, certain questions about it.
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And one of the ethical questions that a lot of Christians have asked is whether or not it's
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okay to use a vaccine that is being developed in any way from the cell line of aborted babies.
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And last week, like I said, I gave you two different Christian perspectives on that, but
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I need to make clear that there are no HEK-293.
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So that is from, um, the kidney of a baby that was aborted in the Netherlands in the 1970s,
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uh, for the, for this, I don't know if it, if he or she was actually aborted for this reason,
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but, uh, the, the organs were harvested for the purpose of vaccine development and vaccine
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Um, the, this baby's kidney cells are not in either the Pfizer or the Moderna vaccines.
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So doctor, this is according to a national review, by the way, Dr. Lee is a senior fellow at the
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Charlotte Lozier, uh, I think that's how you pronounce it, Institute and director of its
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Uh, she told national, um, she told national review that HEK-293s were involved only in the
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post-production process of the final vaccine product.
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That is, they are not part of the vaccine, but rather were test subjects used to develop,
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uh, used to help determine how effective it was.
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This is not the case for all vaccine candidates.
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Some of the higher profile products under development by Janssen research and Johnson
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and Johnson, as well as AstraZeneca and Oxford university, for example, are using fetal cells
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And these vaccines, there is a direct line between the vaccine and abortion.
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That line does not exist in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
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So there were fetal lines that were used in the testing of the final vaccine product when it
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comes to Pfizer and Moderna, but it's not actually in the vaccine.
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But I wanted to make sure that I made that clear because I meant to say that when I was
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talking about Albert Mohler's perspective of it last week, and I don't think that I was
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exactly clear, or I might've actually missed when I was reading his article, I might've actually
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missed that excerpt, which made that, um, really clear.
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And some of you messaged me, which I'm very thankful that you did and pointed that out to
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me, and I just wanted to, um, offer that clarity.
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So there are still things to think about, still go back, like I said, and listen to that
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episode, um, because you will find, uh, that there are different perspectives on this.
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And look, I'm not going to let you just be categorized as some crazy conspiracy theorist,
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just because you have a couple of questions about a quickly developed vaccine.
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Um, and don't let other people tell you that you are either.
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I think there's such a difficult and fine line between, um, uh, between categorizing people
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as a conspiracy theorist, and then recognizing that a lot of people aren't conspiracy theorists,
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Some people don't have legitimate questions and truly are conspiracy theorists.
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And I'm not just talking about when it comes to vaccines, but when I, I'm talking about,
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People who are constantly looking for conspiracy theorists, they go down this black hole or
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They go down this black hole on the internet constantly.
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They're listening to unnamed anonymous sources who claim to have some kind of a special knowledge
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And they're not actually able to back up their research or give you their sources or give you
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any kind of real substantial explanation for what's going on.
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And people who get sucked into those kinds of theories are really searching for some kind
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And there's, um, a lot of clicks and even a lot of money to be gained.
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If you are someone who claims to have all of this special hidden knowledge, because people
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are constantly looking for alternative narratives than what they see, um, in front of them.
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If you want to know what's really going on, you don't need to look to all of these agnostic
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sources and all of these people who claim to have this special and hidden knowledge about
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What's really going on without a doubt that we know for sure is that God's plan of redemption,
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eternal plan of redemption is always and forever going off without a hitch.
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If you want to know what's really going on, what's really going on is that God is being
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So that more people can come to know Christ before he comes back and defeats sin and death
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and sorrow and evil and wickedness forever and ever.
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That's not even some hidden knowledge that is special revelation, but it's accessible to
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And so if you're looking for an alternative narrative to the craziness that's going on,
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if you just feel like you can't find all of the answers, we're not going to be able
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But all wisdom and clarity about what's going on in the physical and the spiritual realm that
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we at least can know now as finite human beings on earth can be found in God's word through
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And so we don't have to wander through these black holes on the internet to find out the
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real knowledge or the real game plan or the real narrative.
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We can go to God's word, which is right in front of us to tell us what's really going on.
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Now, that said, that doesn't mean that we have to accept every headline or we have to accept
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everything the CDC says, or we have to accept certainly not everything the WHO says.
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I've spent a lot of time talking about the serious, serious corruption in the WHO.
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That doesn't mean that we shouldn't ask questions.
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That doesn't mean that we shouldn't dig beneath the headlines and beneath the research and look
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at the methodology of every research and look at who wrote each article and what biases
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might be there or what's really going on and look at a wide range of sources on a particular story
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to understand what's really behind the headline or what's really behind the mainstream narrative.
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And we're going to talk about that a little bit today when we talk about Black Lives Matter.
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It's not a conspiracy theory to say, OK, what they're saying doesn't actually line up
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So we should be absolutely asking questions and we should be digging into what is real and
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what is true as much as we can without obsessing over and looking for that special knowledge.
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We're looking for things that can be verified, things that can be corroborated.
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When we're trying to dig beneath the headline and try to figure out what's really going on,
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I think those are the differentiating factors, some of them between digging and doing your
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own research and following conspiracy theories that really have no substantial foundation.
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The questions we should ask is, where is this coming from?
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Do I have any legitimate sources to back this up?
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Are there other corroborating sources when it comes to whatever particular fact or narrative
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So it's very important to distinguish between fair questions and criticism and conspiracy
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We have to use our discernment and use our wisdom to be able to distinguish between those
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Whether we're talking about COVID, whether we're talking about the vaccine, or whether we're
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talking about anything else, I think that it is incumbent upon us, especially as Christians
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who are commanded to ask God for wisdom as a promise.
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He tells us in James that wisdom is a promise, but also realizing that wisdom is a process.
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We read throughout the book of Proverbs, that it's something that we have to seek out.
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It is incumbent upon us to be wise and to be discerning in all that we think, say, read,
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I've talked very often on this podcast how I think right now, more than ever, maybe not
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more than ever, I just feel like that because I'm in this present moment, but it is so important
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And, you know, that's the name of Roger's book.
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We've had him on the podcast, and he talks about how America is in this pre-totalitarian
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state because of the fascist tactics of cancel mobs, of public harassers, of corporations,
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of big tech, and that the minority view is getting more and more dangerous to hold, and
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that the silencers are getting louder and louder.
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And he talks about those in Soviet Russia who lived in the same time and how important
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it was, how they determined and promised to themselves and to each other to not say
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or believe or accept anything that they didn't really think, anything that isn't really true.
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I think a lot of us are pressured to say things or to acquiesce or to compromise in
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a way that isn't really true to ourselves, that isn't really right, that we know isn't
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We're not sure it's really factual, but we're saying it because we're told that, for example,
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Like, we have no idea if the movement or if the social media hashtag is actually in relation
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to anything that is factual, but we're just going to do it because we feel pressured, because
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And so we just go along with this performative activism without actually researching because
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We don't want to be condemned, is on the wrong side of history or whatever.
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We've got to abandon the performative activism.
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We have to be dogged in our pursuit of the truth.
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We have to refuse to accept anything that is not true.
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We have to refuse as far as we can to say, refuse to say anything that is not true.
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You guys always tell me if I missed context or I didn't say something that was true or
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You guys know I'm coming from a conservative Christian perspective, and I don't hide that
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But that doesn't mean that I am trying to hide something from you or lie to you or tell
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I'm always encouraging you guys do your own research.
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Make sure that what I'm saying is true, and if it's not, then you should tell me.
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And we should tell each other and make sure and ensure and encourage one another in believing
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that which is true, accepting that which is true, and saying that which is true.
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It's the only thing that is going to keep us sane when the world is saying that war is
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peace and freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength, and that men are women and women
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are men, we have to hold fast to that which we know is true, or else we're just going
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to be tossed on the waves of cultural changes that have no grounding, no grounding in reality,
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no grounding in morality, and certainly no grounding in any kind of biblical truth.
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Now I want to talk about AOC, why she is going viral on Twitter right now for things that
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All right, so since this was trendy, I do want to talk about AOC and her Instagram Live.
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I think that there's a lot of fair criticism of AOC that she doesn't seem to really take
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as fair criticism, which I understand when it's personal criticism towards you.
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It can be hard to take while, but she's very public in her reactions about the criticism
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She seems to always see it as some kind of personal attack, and that's something that
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I'll talk about in just a minute, but there's also some unfair criticism of AOC.
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So I think any criticism about her that has to do with the fact that, oh my gosh, she does
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these Instagram Lives, she thinks it's all about her, or she goes on Twitch, or she's always
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on Twitter, yes, I understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, this is
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why she's so popular, because she maintains this level of accessibility, even while having
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She maintains a level of relatability, even though she's a congresswoman, and that's why
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so many people probably worldwide follow and support her.
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Obviously, I'm a conservative, so I disagree with her.
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It's not because she is necessarily bringing some skill to the table that people are impressed
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by, but because of her down-to-earthness, because she seems like a regular person.
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So I think when most young people go to Congress, they feel like they really have to button up.
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They feel like, okay, people aren't going to take me seriously.
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They're going to underestimate me because I'm young, and so I really have to be very mature,
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and I have to dress and act and present myself in such a way that people know that I am one
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I think AOC has decided that she's not going to do that, and I know this is going, this
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in and of itself is going to sound like a criticism, and well, it is and it's not.
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It's actually something that I think is very valuable to her and a very important tool in
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AOC has very uniquely retained a level of adolescence and juvenility and, dare I say,
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immaturity that makes her very appealing to a young audience.
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So she has gone to Congress, and she has decided she's not only going to continue going on Twitch
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and going on Instagram Live and using these different forms of media to reach young people,
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but she's also not going to change how she talks.
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She's still going to say like every other word.
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She's still not going to be very articulate in how she is able to explain things.
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She might be confident, but it seems to me that she has not made a whole lot of effort
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in trying to change how she presents herself and trying to make herself into a good or effective
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or a mature-sounding communicator because whether she is defending something or questioning someone
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in some kind of committee hearing on the Hill or she is talking on Instagram or she's talking
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on Twitch or in an interview, it's all kind of the same.
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I mean, she sounds like a young 20-something who is just figuring out how politics works.
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And I know that sounds like a kind of underhanded, but I'm just saying I think that's why so many
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I think that's why she appeals to so many young people because she still sounds like one of them.
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And I know, again, I know this might sound rude.
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She sounds a lot younger than a typical 30-year-old.
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And I think that's why there are so many teenagers and so many college students and so
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many young people that love her so much because of that.
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Because she has retained a level of adolescence in how she speaks and how she carries herself
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I've never watched one of her Instagram Lives because I don't follow her on Instagram, but
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And so I'll catch what people are saying about it.
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And I think that her drinking wine or whatever on Instagram Live or talking about this, she has
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no idea what a disposal is on Instagram Live or like building furniture, making macaroni
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Someone on the right, like a conservative lawmaker, is free to do something like that too, rather
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than just criticize her for doing it because it's actually effective.
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But someone on the left, I mean, someone on the right hasn't done that.
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And so more power to her for knowing her audience, knowing how to reach her audience, knowing
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what accessibility looks like, knowing what relatability looks like.
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And of course, yes, there is double standard here because if there were, say there were
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a blonde 28-year-old, well, I think she's, I don't know if she's 29, 30, I'm 28, we're
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If there were a blonde 29-year-old congressperson who acted the same way that AOC did, who did
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the same kind of Instagram Lives, who talked in the same way that AOC did, who does, or
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she did the interviews, CNN, MSNBC interviews the same way that AOC does, very unable to defend
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her views, very unable to articulately and confidently and self-assuredly defend what she thinks or
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articulate her ideas, if there was a blonde Republican lawmaker, 29 years old, who said
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like as much as AOC does, who explained things the way AOC does on her Instagram Lives and
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these various, you know, spontaneous things that she does.
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I mean, this person would be called all kinds of things.
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And I'm not just talking about random trolls on Twitter because there are a lot of people
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that say those things about AOC, but the mainstream media, we're talking blue check journalists
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would be calling that Republican young lawmaker an idiot, stupid, brainless, especially, oh
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Can you imagine if a young, blonde congressperson with a Southern accent talked in the same way,
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conducted herself, carried herself in the same way that AOC did?
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Oh my gosh, she would be the, she would be the subject of every single cartoon, of every
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single caricature of some kind of Southern idiot out there.
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That said, I think that AOC does the accessibility thing very well.
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And Instagram Live is one of the, one of the best tools that she has to do that.
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And she did that last night and she was still talking about the Capitol riot.
00:26:48.980
And when I say still, I just mean that it's a few weeks.
00:26:56.160
It was a crazy thing to watch and something that no sane person is proud of or excited about
00:27:04.700
There's a lot of us who have continued to talk about it and the problem with political
00:27:08.380
violence and all of that, AOC, the reason why she's going viral and talking about this
00:27:14.200
last night is that she said that she, she experienced sexual assault and she talked about how the
00:27:19.680
trauma from that kind of compounded with the trauma from the Capitol.
00:27:23.840
Here's what she said, quote, the reason I'm getting emotional in this moment is because
00:27:27.440
these folks who tell us to move on, that it's not a big deal, that we should forget what's
00:27:35.060
And I'm a survivor of sexual assault and I haven't told many people that in my life.
00:27:38.860
But when we go through trauma, trauma compounds on each other.
00:27:45.420
A lot of people have a problem with her saying this.
00:27:48.740
She wants, if that's her perspective and those are her feelings, I don't see anything wrong
00:27:54.600
I mean, of course, you don't have to move on from this.
00:27:59.620
The problem that I have with this has nothing to do with what she said about sexual assault.
00:28:04.920
And obviously, I have all of the compassion and the love and the sadness in the world
00:28:10.420
for anyone who experienced sexual assault and all the anger in the world towards people
00:28:15.840
who dehumanize and objectify people in that way through sexual assault.
00:28:21.840
And so that aside, you know, that is her if she wants to share that, if she wants to talk
00:28:29.020
If she wants to talk about how that trauma compounded with the Capitol Hill trauma, that's
00:28:35.540
What bothers me is how she has talked about this in general, how she has continually talked
00:28:41.240
about this as if the Capitol, she is the only person who experienced or that Democrats were
00:28:48.680
the only people, but specifically her, was the only person that really dealt with trauma
00:28:54.360
and that everyone else is just telling her to move on and everyone else is just trying
00:28:59.160
And everyone on the other side of this is just some kind of abuser because they're telling
00:29:04.720
And she is likening that to a sexual assault abuser.
00:29:10.960
Sure, you can share whatever feelings that you want to, and you can totally feel that trauma.
00:29:19.320
I'm not saying she shouldn't have shared that, but this is a pattern that we have continued
00:29:24.260
to see from her, that she is making the Capitol riots about only her and what she experienced.
00:29:29.420
And I think this was, to me, most grotesquely seen when she tweeted this at Senator Cruz.
00:29:35.280
I am happy to work with Republicans on this issue where there's common ground.
00:29:39.680
This was in response to Ted Cruz saying something, agreeing with her about something.
00:29:45.560
But you almost, to Ted Cruz, you almost had me murdered three weeks ago, so you can sit
00:29:51.320
Happy to work with almost any other GOP that aren't trying to get me killed.
00:29:57.720
Okay, so she is claiming because Ted Cruz was going to peacefully, whether you agree
00:30:03.420
with it or not, he was peacefully going to ask on the Senate floor for investigation
00:30:09.100
into legitimate allegations of voter fraud and voter irregularities, that he actually directly
00:30:16.680
You are accusing a senator of attempted murder because of something that he was going to
00:30:22.140
say that wasn't at all tied to actually what happened at the Capitol.
00:30:31.240
And so if she is willing to accuse someone of attempted murder because of something that
00:30:38.700
they said that was not in conjunction with the riot or the storming of the Capitol, then
00:30:48.080
to me, that tells me a little bit about her perspective of this whole thing, that she is
00:30:53.380
implying that she was the key target, that she was a target or she was the target of the
00:31:00.160
riots and the violence and the terror and the chaos that we saw at the Capitol on January
00:31:07.760
The targets of this that we know via investigation were apparently Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi, some
00:31:13.400
other GOP lawmakers, the DNC and RNC buildings.
00:31:17.200
There was a random person, yes, who tweeted assassinate AOC, which is awful and terrible,
00:31:22.800
worse kind of people that tweet things like that.
00:31:25.380
But unfortunately, that happens to lawmakers and really just influencers of all backgrounds
00:31:35.780
She said on Monday, AOC, that she was terrified when someone was banging on her door.
00:31:40.820
She said this in the in the Instagram live that she was terrified someone was banging on
00:31:46.100
her door, but it ended up being Capitol Police.
00:31:48.020
Then she said on Instagram live that this officer approached her with hostility, that she didn't
00:31:54.500
know if he was angry and that that was really scary because once again, she didn't know if
00:31:59.580
this Capitol Hill person or this Capitol officer was on her side.
00:32:03.680
And he very angrily and gruffly, she said, told her to go to a different part of the building.
00:32:09.420
My response in that situation, if I were retelling the story, would have been, thank you.
00:32:15.220
I'm so thankful that this Capitol officer took the time to specifically come to my office
00:32:24.020
I'm sure it never occurred to her that maybe this officer in a very high stress situation
00:32:29.020
was just expressing, was just embodying the kind of angst that everyone felt at the time,
00:32:36.700
that he's a human being, too, and he was just doing his job in a very precarious situation.
00:32:42.680
And maybe, and this is hard for anyone to believe, but maybe he came in and was trying
00:32:48.120
to assess the situation because he knew that there were people in Nancy Pelosi's office
00:32:51.860
and he had no idea if there were going to be rioters in her office, too.
00:32:56.440
And maybe just for a second, maybe he didn't recognize AOC.
00:32:59.840
Like maybe he doesn't even know really who she is or what her significance is.
00:33:04.780
Maybe he didn't recognize the staff or the AOC said, you know, was feeling like he had
00:33:12.200
Like maybe that's maybe it has nothing to do with her feeling or with her being targeted
00:33:18.540
or with this Capitol police officer being in opposition to her.
00:33:22.780
And I think this is the problem when anyone, any one of us makes ourselves constantly the
00:33:27.620
center of a narrative in something that is in actuality a lot bigger than us is that
00:33:36.420
Everyone is either for us as the star of the show where everyone is against us as the star
00:33:42.440
And the reality is for most of us, even it's even for someone as popular as AOC is that
00:33:51.260
Most people aren't necessarily for us or against us.
00:33:55.100
And I know AOC, like I said, gets a lot of criticism.
00:34:02.000
And so I understand why she might be on the defense.
00:34:04.640
But when it comes to something like this, like the Capitol attack, I think it's really
00:34:10.060
important for her to realize that there were all the GOP lawmakers experienced trauma as
00:34:17.420
Every single innocent person that was at the Capitol, every lawmaker, every staffer was
00:34:26.020
She is not the only one who experienced trauma.
00:34:29.520
She's not the only one who was in this very confusing and chaotic situation.
00:34:34.000
She's not the only one who may have felt like they were going to die that day or like they
00:34:39.460
I think the correct reaction would be, how can we stop this from happening to our country
00:34:47.420
and show a little bit of grace and deference and compassion and give some benefit of the doubt
00:34:52.740
to the police officers who came to make sure that you were in a safe situation instead
00:35:00.320
And that's something that I see so often from AOC.
00:35:03.640
Everything is about who is for her or against her when most of the time, most people aren't
00:35:16.840
She's very good about centering herself in the narrative and making this about for or
00:35:24.140
The reality is the whole Capitol riot is a lot bigger.
00:35:34.280
And I think that when we decenter ourselves from any narrative, we are able to see things
00:35:40.500
And I think that she would be able to make a better assessment.
00:35:43.380
Again, this is aside from her talking about her sexual assault.
00:35:46.800
She can talk about that however and whenever she wants to.
00:35:50.400
I'm talking about, in general, how she has talked about this and how she has laid responsibility
00:35:55.680
on the feet of all of the GOP, especially people like Ted Cruz, accusing him of attempted
00:36:03.460
She's unable to look at this rightly and look at this fairly because she has centered herself
00:36:12.140
Um, and she lays responsibility then at the feet of her political enemies that she doesn't
00:36:24.000
And this is not to, this is not at all to minimize what happened at the Capitol, but this is to
00:36:29.480
make an important point, uh, which murdered at least, at least two black children, Antonio
00:36:34.160
Mays and Sequoia Turner, in addition to dozens of other people were celebrated by AOC.
00:36:39.380
I'm not talking about those specific murders, but she didn't have anything to say about those.
00:36:44.060
She just praised the protests in general, saying on Twitter that protests are, quote,
00:36:50.940
Without acknowledging that the discomfort that some people felt during not just, not the peaceful
00:36:56.600
protests, but the riots that were orchestrated by BLM in conjunction with Antifa, uh, people were
00:37:02.180
uncomfortable with it because people were dying from them.
00:37:10.080
Innocent people were made to feel, quote, uncomfortable through violence.
00:37:15.400
And AOC didn't acknowledge any of those things.
00:37:17.620
She actually condoned all of the demonstrations, saying that, you know, basically that it was
00:37:25.520
I mean, so she's not going to take any responsibility whatsoever for being silent where she should
00:37:31.200
have spoken up and saying something where she shouldn't have been, where she should have
00:37:34.880
been silent when it comes to the violence that we've seen across the country for the
00:37:39.680
But she is going to accuse Ted Cruz and accuse other lawmakers of attempted murder and being
00:37:46.360
against her and even a Capitol officer of potentially being hostile towards her.
00:37:53.460
And again, that's what happens when we center ourselves in a narrative that we're not actually
00:37:57.000
the center of, when we star ourselves in a show that we're not actually the start of.
00:38:01.020
And I understand a lot of people are going to say, well, you can't compare the Capitol
00:38:08.060
And I'm not comparing the Capitol riots to the Black Lives Matter peaceful protests.
00:38:15.940
People will still say you can't compare those two things because Black Lives Matter, those
00:38:19.980
demonstrations, even the looting and the arson and the violence, that was all fighting
00:38:28.680
That double standard just doesn't work with me.
00:38:30.380
There were more lives taken as a result of BLM and Antifa chaos in the past six months
00:38:34.880
than there were unarmed Black men killed by the police, which, according to the Washington
00:38:42.140
So I'm saying if AOC is going to accuse Ted Cruz of attempted murder for making a statement
00:38:48.040
on the Senate floor, but will take no responsibility for her own rhetoric and some of and talk about
00:38:53.080
some of the misinformation and the false narratives that pushed her own side to violence in some
00:38:58.860
cases, then I just don't think that I don't think her accusations and I don't think her
00:39:05.060
If both sides could just consistently and resolutely say, look, I'm against political
00:39:14.220
I'm against rioting that ends the lives and hurts the lives of innocent people, no matter
00:39:20.540
That I think that we could the vast majority of the country could probably come together
00:39:27.120
But unfortunately, we're unable to do that because the truth is misinformation, exaggeration,
00:39:32.940
cherry picked narratives fanned the flame of both sides of this violence.
00:39:40.440
It's not so easy as, well, the Capitol terrorists were mad about a fairly won election and BLM
00:39:49.940
There were plenty of peaceful Trump rallies, plenty of peaceful BLM protests.
00:39:54.100
I remember, I think it was the Washington Post or Time magazine reported that BLM only there
00:39:59.800
only 7% of their demonstrations turned violent.
00:40:04.320
OK, well, if you're going to use that standard, then you could say only what, 0.5% of Trump rallies
00:40:11.140
So again, you have to apply that standard consistently.
00:40:14.340
And I don't really care whether it's 7% or 1% or 50%.
00:40:19.400
The fact of the matter is that percent represents real people's lives.
00:40:29.380
Both sides have been fed misinformation about their causes.
00:40:32.380
The narrative that Trump duly won every swing state and that Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi
00:40:37.360
and Governor Kemp were all colluding to take down Trump isn't true.
00:40:43.680
But that's completely unrelated to the lawmakers at the Capitol and the storming of the Capitol
00:40:49.100
that accomplished nothing except releasing some sort of angst.
00:40:56.660
In addition to other conspiracies, Trump's still going to have four more years.
00:41:01.940
We're going to have a blackout so Trump can finally drain the swamp and then he's going
00:41:07.440
He has to get rid of these satanic pedophiles and hang Mike Pence for treason.
00:41:13.340
All of that 100% helped fuel the chaos that we saw on January 6th.
00:41:18.340
But also, we have to recognize that the narrative on the other side that the police, for example,
00:41:23.800
are hunting and killing disproportionately black men or that black men are killed by the police
00:41:29.360
at a disproportionate rate is not factual if you look at just the number that are not just
00:41:36.100
the number that are killed, but also the number of police interactions, arrests, and crimes per year
00:41:41.740
And I will link a variety of sources in the description and also the plethora of episodes
00:41:46.760
that we have done diving into the numbers and the statistics and the data on this.
00:41:51.860
That doesn't mean that there are not warranted cases of police shootings and serious injustice,
00:41:57.440
even injustice that might be disproportionately racialized.
00:42:01.040
There are unwarranted killings, have been in just the past few years, of both white and
00:42:09.440
The problem is you only, for the most part, hear the names of black men and then we're
00:42:16.580
This is disproportionately happening to one race.
00:42:22.100
I mean, she has made some headlines, but a lot of people don't know the name Justine Damon,
00:42:26.500
for example, because there are no protests or hashtags for her or for Tony Tempa.
00:42:31.100
And those are, I would say, two of the most prominent names of white people who were, in
00:42:36.000
my opinion, they were not justified at all in being killed by the police.
00:42:41.440
I think Elijah McClain, he is a black young man who I think was totally unjustifiably
00:42:47.500
tackled by the police and made and sedated by the police to the point to where he died.
00:42:57.440
But we're unable to assess the issue, the possible issue of police brutality in some
00:43:03.760
cases, rightly, when we're told that this is only happening or this is disproportionately
00:43:08.780
happening to black, to unarmed black men, when that is just not factually true.
00:43:14.940
Like we don't even know the names of the 21 unarmed white people shot and killed by the
00:43:20.060
police last year because it's not a part of the narrative.
00:43:25.000
The truth is, for the most part, white people kill other white people when they kill and when
00:43:31.580
when black Americans kill other black Americans, sadly, at a rate that is completely disproportionate
00:43:39.560
There are more white people killed by black people per year than the other way around, according
00:43:44.760
So again, this idea that white people are hunting black people in this country is not true.
00:43:50.340
So there is misinformation on both sides that fuels this chaos.
00:43:54.080
I won't put everyone on the line for violence, though, if they didn't call for it.
00:43:58.820
I don't think it's fair to say that people who talked about election fraud are responsible
00:44:03.840
And certainly people who talked about police brutality, I would not say are responsible
00:44:09.460
But we do need to make sure as far as we can to make our assessments as accurate as possible.
00:44:15.300
We need to try to be consistent, to not accuse the other side of attempted murder when that's
00:44:21.440
Again, we have to refuse as far as we can, as far as it concerns us, not to live by lies,
00:44:30.080
Just because something is popular, just because a narrative is repeated over and over again in
00:44:34.920
your circles, just because someone tells you that believing something or repeating something
00:44:38.900
is empathetic or kind or right, doesn't make it those things.
00:44:43.200
Things will only get worse if we continue to delude ourselves with that which isn't true.
00:44:48.340
If we continue to accuse the other side of that which we are doing ourselves, things will
00:44:55.400
And another instance, I think, of this just living in this kind of upside down world is
00:45:01.720
Black Lives Matter being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
00:45:05.540
The New York Post reported that they were nominated by a Norwegian politician, Peter Eide, I don't
00:45:12.300
know how to pronounce his last name, who called it, quote, a very important worldwide movement
00:45:17.200
When Eide was asked about BLM violence, he only said studies have shown that most of the
00:45:21.000
demonstrations organized by Black Lives Matter have been peaceful.
00:45:23.800
Then, of course, there have been incidents, but most of them have been caused by the activities
00:45:29.880
That's just not that's not factually accurate at all.
00:45:34.680
Unfortunately, I mean, as Ayanna Pressley said herself, they believe a lot of Black Lives
00:45:40.120
Matter activists believe there has to be unrest in the streets as long as there is, quote,
00:45:46.480
And so violence, certainly looting, certainly is justified.
00:45:50.500
It's a justified tactic by some people on the left.
00:45:53.080
That's why NPR profiled this author who wrote the book in defense of looting, which she
00:45:58.520
actually wrote back in April before George Floyd happened.
00:46:01.600
And what she said, look, yes, looting is part of the Marxist socialist uprising that needs
00:46:07.320
So there's certainly a lot of different causes intertwined.
00:46:11.280
The founders of Black Lives Matter have said themselves that they are trained Marxists.
00:46:16.180
They've made and, you know, Marxists, they say that they are socialists, but they love money.
00:46:21.440
They love capitalism for themselves, which is why Black Lives Matter continues to rake in
00:46:28.540
And yet, according to Fox News, actually, this is just on Twitter.
00:46:33.320
Black Lives Matter DC, along with, I think, 10 other local chapters of Black Lives Matter,
00:46:38.380
released a statement in November saying, look, Black Lives Matter global network is not held
00:46:46.920
And the money that they've promised us over the past few years has not come to us, hasn't
00:46:52.400
It hasn't helped fund these grassroots movements.
00:46:54.940
And the leadership acts in a way that is completely disconnected from what the local chapters of
00:47:01.360
And so my question is, what are they what is the Black Lives Matter global network at least
00:47:09.220
Like, can you tell me what they've actually accomplished in the way of peace?
00:47:19.980
There's like 13 points that Black Lives Matter believes, and these are now being taught in
00:47:27.020
And one of the points is that we see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are
00:47:30.920
aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black folk who exist in different
00:47:35.720
And by the way, that's not that's not necessarily true.
00:47:38.560
Like, if you talk to a Black person that is not from America, they have a very different
00:47:44.780
And unfortunately, a lot of Black Lives Matter activists, if there was a Black person either
00:47:49.380
in America or outside of America that doesn't agree with them, they will accuse that Black
00:47:54.000
person of being colonized or having internalized white supremacy just because they disagree with
00:48:02.240
Kendi, how he talks about scholar and academic John McWhorter, they disagree on ideas.
00:48:09.520
Kendi constantly tries to condescend and condemn John McWhorter for basically being a racist
00:48:17.120
And so this idea of being a part of a global Black family, yeah, of course, if you agree
00:48:21.360
Their point 11 in their statement is, quote, Black Villages, which reads, we are committed to
00:48:26.100
disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure.
00:48:29.980
By the way, I would like to say that that's not Western-prescribed.
00:48:39.260
And so cultures around the world for all of time have formed themselves in those kinds
00:48:46.580
That doesn't mean that there hasn't been help from villages or help from towns or help
00:48:52.080
from friends and extended family when it comes to raising children.
00:48:56.940
But this idea of a mom and a dad and a kid, that's not just Western-prescribed.
00:49:04.640
And by the way, even if you don't believe in the Bible, the Bible is not a Western book.
00:49:09.120
The Bible is an Eastern book that was written by Eastern people, was not written by white
00:49:15.820
And in Genesis 1, we see the formulation of the family.
00:49:18.660
Again, whether or not you believe in the spiritual authority of the book, it was still a book that
00:49:22.180
was written thousands and thousands of years ago and not in the West.
00:49:25.100
So this idea that the West has just prescribed and created mom, dad, kids formulation of
00:49:30.320
the family just isn't, again, historically accurate.
00:49:32.980
But in the world of CRT, that views everything as West bad, America bad, whiteness bad.
00:49:39.320
You have to attach anything that is conservative and anything that is not progressive, anything
00:49:44.740
that is bad to those categories in order for your CRT narrative to move forward.
00:49:49.820
So they say in this point, 11, so we want to disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family
00:49:55.960
structure requirement by supporting each other's extended families and villages that collectively
00:50:06.500
And especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
00:50:12.080
You'll notice that they purposely leave out the word fathers.
00:50:15.180
Mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
00:50:21.280
Fathers, I guess, have no say despite the fact that lack of fatherness or fatherness, lack
00:50:28.120
of fatherhood and the present, the lack of present dads in all kinds of communities in
00:50:38.360
And if you look at the data surrounding fatherlessness, you've got higher rates of teen pregnancy, higher
00:50:44.220
rates of depression and suicide for kids without present dads.
00:50:49.460
You've got lower rates of high school and college graduation, higher rates of poverty and
00:50:54.140
unemployment when kids do not have present dads at home.
00:51:11.320
Of course, mothers are absolutely irreplaceable.
00:51:14.740
But to dismiss the need for fathers, especially in this point, which is, I guarantee you, is
00:51:20.640
absolutely on purpose, is to just perpetuate so many of the problems that we're already
00:51:27.980
And then their other point is we are committed to embracing and making space for trans brothers
00:51:31.260
and sisters to, wow, so they say trans brothers and sisters.
00:51:34.620
And then they put on you the gender binary of brothers and sisters.
00:51:38.500
To participate and lead, we are committed to being self-reflexive and doing the work required
00:51:47.380
And uplift black trans folk, especially black trans women, who continue to be disproportionately
00:51:55.580
Which, by the way, again, is not factually true.
00:51:59.060
That's actually not factually true, that last part.
00:52:03.340
And so I'm, you know, I'm not surprised by them being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
00:52:11.040
Jared Kushner was also nominated for their workings in the Middle East and for the peace deals that
00:52:17.460
especially Jared Kushner has pressed forward, which I do think is impressive.
00:52:22.060
But I understand a lot of people are going to have a problem with that, too.
00:52:24.600
A lot of people are going to say they've actually caused violence and have been destructive in a
00:52:29.040
And so we don't have to agree with all the nominations.
00:52:31.300
And I think it's fair to bring to bring that up.
00:52:34.980
But this reflex that I think so many people in America have to just jump on the bandwagon of
00:52:41.040
having to support Black Lives Matter and all the narratives surrounding it in order to prove that
00:52:45.600
you're a good person, I think you've got to reject that.
00:52:48.460
Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
00:52:52.520
Look to the Bible for the definitions of justice, for the definitions of love, for the definitions
00:52:56.820
of serving your neighbor, for the definitions of truthfulness and impartiality.
00:53:02.160
And I think that you will be on a much better path to seeking actual justice and actual mercy
00:53:08.320
and actual truth and actual love and actual reconciliation and unity and progress than you will if you
00:53:15.240
believe some of these false narratives that are centered on critical race theory and, quite
00:53:19.680
frankly, the destructive tenets of the Black Lives Matter organization.