Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 362 ｜ Decentering AOC & Reassessing BLM

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:11.500 Happy Tuesday.

00:00:12.480 Hope everyone has had a great week so far.

00:00:14.680 So we've got to change, a last minute change yet again in our podcast.

00:00:20.720 So this is the second time I've tried to get Alex Brinson on my podcast, had him scheduled.

00:00:25.640 And then last minute, unfortunately, he has been unable to come on the podcast.

00:00:30.840 If you don't know, he's the guy, he used to work for the New York Times, and he has been

00:00:35.120 very thoroughly and consistently reporting on the side of coronavirus reporting that

00:00:42.540 is not typically shown in the mainstream.

00:00:46.360 So he'll look at the data of masks, he'll look at the data of the rate of infections

00:00:50.960 and hospitalizations and some of the background of the vaccines and report on those things

00:00:56.520 that a lot of people, unfortunately, just aren't willing to talk about.

00:00:59.760 And I really wanted to get him on last week.

00:01:01.600 And then I wanted to get him on today.

00:01:03.740 And we literally got like a text or an email a couple minutes before the interview that

00:01:09.820 he wasn't going to be able to make it.

00:01:11.200 So that's a that's a huge bummer.

00:01:13.960 Also, he was going to promote a book and you guys are just so I just have like the most

00:01:19.360 responsive audience in the world.

00:01:21.820 Whenever I have someone on to promote their book and I've had several people on to talk

00:01:26.600 about their book.

00:01:27.280 First of all, I just want to let you guys know I only have people on to talk about their

00:01:30.880 books that I know are going to be interesting to you, not just you know, I don't just have

00:01:35.280 anyone on.

00:01:36.680 But you guys are so supportive and always go out and buy their book and you follow them

00:01:42.180 and you really want to support the people that I go to as a resource or that I listen

00:01:49.840 to or I talk to.

00:01:50.740 And I just love you guys.

00:01:52.220 I always talk about how I have the greatest and smartest and most thoughtful and encouraging

00:01:56.600 audience in the world.

00:01:57.640 And I really think that's true.

00:01:59.040 Like I probably I mean, I know that I don't have, you know, the same size audiences, a lot

00:02:04.900 of people out there, but I do have a ton of you.

00:02:07.460 And the many, many, many of you who do listen to this podcast are also just so involved and

00:02:15.360 so engaged.

00:02:16.020 And I just appreciate that so much.

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00:02:23.780 If those are your honest feelings about the podcast, leave a five star review on Apple

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00:02:28.240 That would be great.

00:02:29.020 And since I won't be promoting someone else's book, if you haven't read my book, you're not

00:02:33.020 enough and that's OK, escaping the toxic culture of self love that came out in August, then

00:02:38.200 I encourage you to do that.

00:02:39.220 If you don't want to buy it on Amazon, I completely understand.

00:02:42.100 I'm trying my best not to support Amazon either and try to support some smaller, smaller

00:02:47.440 retailers.

00:02:47.960 You can just go to my website, AllieBethStuckey.com book, and you can see all the places where you

00:02:53.120 can buy it either in a store or online.

00:02:56.440 But it's particularly geared toward young women, but it really can be applicable to anyone.

00:03:02.660 OK, so today I've had to take the last few minutes to kind of reassess what we're going

00:03:07.660 to talk about.

00:03:08.380 I want to make a clarifying comment about the about the vaccine.

00:03:12.560 So last week when I was supposed to have him on and I ended up ended up talking about the

00:03:16.760 vaccine on my own, I talked about John Piper's view on vaccines that are using fetal cell

00:03:24.120 lines or using those fetal cell lines for research and testing versus Albert Mohler's view

00:03:31.060 on it.

00:03:31.300 What I don't think that I made clear is something that I'm going to in just one second about

00:03:38.060 the actual use and the how of the use of these fetal cell lines in the vaccine for you to

00:03:44.620 be able to make your proper assessment.

00:03:47.020 So I'm sorry for not being as clear as I should have been last week.

00:03:50.140 But then we're also going to talk about AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:03:54.480 As she revealed on an Instagram live last night that she is a survivor of sexual assault.

00:04:00.040 And she was talking about this in conjunction with talking about the Capitol riot.

00:04:04.120 And so I do want to talk about what I think we should give her credit for.

00:04:07.780 And then what I think is fair criticism of her, not just in that particular statement,

00:04:11.400 but just in general.

00:04:12.900 And then we're also going to talk about if we have time, that's going to kind of bring

00:04:17.340 us into this yet again, this compare and contrast hypocrisy double standard when it comes to

00:04:24.860 chastising, rightly chastising the violence that we saw at the Capitol riot versus the

00:04:30.660 violence that we've saw that we've seen across America's cities for the last few months.

00:04:36.660 We'll talk about Black Lives Matter being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize and what I

00:04:42.160 think about all of that and hopefully I'll have time to end on some encouragement as well.

00:04:46.700 So let's go ahead and get started with this clarifying part or this clarifying statement

00:04:52.140 that I want to make about fetal cells being used in the development of the coronavirus vaccine.

00:04:58.640 Now, there may be other reasons why you don't want to get the vaccine.

00:05:02.920 Maybe you're skeptical about how quick the process was.

00:05:05.840 Maybe you don't think that there's been enough research, there's been enough data, there's

00:05:10.200 been some conflicting information that we talked about last week.

00:05:13.100 Still go listen to last week's episode on it.

00:05:15.240 I believe it was last Thursday or last Wednesday.

00:05:18.400 I don't remember that we talked about some of the conflicting messages that we've been getting,

00:05:22.560 not just about vaccines, but about coronavirus, about masks and different things like that.

00:05:27.660 You might be pregnant or you might be breastfeeding and you see that the CDC says, yes, it's totally

00:05:32.820 fine for you to take this vaccine.

00:05:34.420 And then you see the WHO that says, ah, we actually don't have enough data on this.

00:05:38.400 You probably shouldn't take the vaccine if you are pregnant or breastfeeding. 1.00

00:05:42.100 And so maybe you're not taking the vaccine for those reasons.

00:05:44.600 Maybe it has nothing to do with the fetal cell aspect of it.

00:05:49.720 But for a lot of Christians who are not anti-vax, and by the way, let me just say, I do not mean

00:05:55.560 that as a pejorative.

00:05:57.020 I know that a lot of people use that term to just throw aside or marginalize all people

00:06:04.600 who have any questions about vaccines.

00:06:06.700 As I made very clear last week, I don't think that every curious person, every skeptical person,

00:06:12.740 not just about vaccines, but about scientism, as I call it, or scientific findings or medicine

00:06:20.360 or suggestions that the medical community gives, anyone who has questions or skepticism surrounding

00:06:27.060 those things shouldn't just be pushed to the side as this conspiracy theorist or an anti-vaxxer.

00:06:32.580 Because some people who have genuine questions because the medical community sometimes gets it wrong,

00:06:38.940 scientists sometimes get it wrong, vaccine developers sometimes get it wrong.

00:06:43.740 I mean, we can look throughout just the past 30 years alone, and we can see several times where,

00:06:49.580 you know, the medical community made a mistake.

00:06:53.060 And I gave some examples of that last week.

00:06:56.260 So go back and listen to that.

00:06:57.980 But when I say anti-vaxxer, I am not just saying everyone who has any question about a vaccine, 1.00

00:07:03.020 you're so stupid and you haven't done any research. 1.00

00:07:05.440 That's not what I'm saying. 1.00

00:07:06.800 I'm literally talking about people who are anti-vaccine.

00:07:10.740 And there are people who are anti-vaccine for several reasons.

00:07:14.340 I know that phrase is used as just a demeaning pejorative, and that's not how I mean it.

00:07:19.360 I used to say just vax-hesitant, but then I got messages from people saying,

00:07:25.020 well, no, I'm actually an anti-vaxxer.

00:07:27.820 I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm not just vax-hesitant.

00:07:31.080 And so you can say anti-vaxxer.

00:07:33.260 And so there are some people who are anti-vax.

00:07:35.880 There are some people who are vax-hesitant.

00:07:38.260 There are some people who don't even care at all anything about the research behind

00:07:43.220 vaccines who are just very pro-vaccination, or they do care about the research behind

00:07:47.080 vaccines and they're very pro-vaccination.

00:07:50.520 And so there's a spectrum of feelings about vaccines.

00:07:54.040 When I say anti-vaxxer, I'm not trying to just be this rude, demeaning person who is

00:08:00.820 categorizing everyone who has any skepticism or questions towards the medical community

00:08:05.400 and quote, big pharma, I'm not just throwing everyone in one anti-vaxxer basket.

00:08:11.280 So I just want to make, make, make that clear.

00:08:14.300 So you could be someone who has questions about the COVID-19 vaccine, who is not, uh, not an

00:08:20.860 anti-vaxxer.

00:08:21.800 You're not vax-hesitant, but you do have, um, certain questions about it.

00:08:26.920 And one of the ethical questions that a lot of Christians have asked is whether or not it's

00:08:31.320 okay to use a vaccine that is being developed in any way from the cell line of aborted babies.

00:08:39.680 And last week, like I said, I gave you two different Christian perspectives on that, but

00:08:44.100 I need to make clear that there are no HEK-293.

00:08:48.220 So that is from, um, the kidney of a baby that was aborted in the Netherlands in the 1970s,

00:08:54.320 uh, for the, for this, I don't know if it, if he or she was actually aborted for this reason,

00:09:00.640 but, uh, the, the organs were harvested for the purpose of vaccine development and vaccine

00:09:07.640 research, HEK-293.

00:09:10.140 Um, the, this baby's kidney cells are not in either the Pfizer or the Moderna vaccines.

00:09:17.540 So doctor, this is according to a national review, by the way, Dr. Lee is a senior fellow at the

00:09:23.600 Charlotte Lozier, uh, I think that's how you pronounce it, Institute and director of its

00:09:28.720 life sciences program.

00:09:30.200 Uh, she told national, um, she told national review that HEK-293s were involved only in the

00:09:37.460 post-production process of the final vaccine product.

00:09:40.440 That is, they are not part of the vaccine, but rather were test subjects used to develop,

00:09:45.820 uh, used to help determine how effective it was.

00:09:48.320 This is not the case for all vaccine candidates.

00:09:50.620 Some of the higher profile products under development by Janssen research and Johnson

00:09:54.200 and Johnson, as well as AstraZeneca and Oxford university, for example, are using fetal cells

00:09:59.160 in the production process.

00:10:01.180 And these vaccines, there is a direct line between the vaccine and abortion.

00:10:05.600 That line does not exist in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

00:10:12.020 So there were fetal lines that were used in the testing of the final vaccine product when it

00:10:18.060 comes to Pfizer and Moderna, but it's not actually in the vaccine.

00:10:21.920 So make of that what you will.

00:10:23.420 But I wanted to make sure that I made that clear because I meant to say that when I was

00:10:27.680 talking about Albert Mohler's perspective of it last week, and I don't think that I was

00:10:31.260 exactly clear, or I might've actually missed when I was reading his article, I might've actually

00:10:36.860 missed that excerpt, which made that, um, really clear.

00:10:40.100 And some of you messaged me, which I'm very thankful that you did and pointed that out to

00:10:43.680 me, and I just wanted to, um, offer that clarity.

00:10:47.320 So there are still things to think about, still go back, like I said, and listen to that

00:10:50.700 episode, um, because you will find, uh, that there are different perspectives on this.

00:10:56.600 And look, I'm not going to let you just be categorized as some crazy conspiracy theorist,

00:11:01.720 just because you have a couple of questions about a quickly developed vaccine.

00:11:06.880 Um, and don't let other people tell you that you are either.

00:11:09.380 I think there's such a difficult and fine line between, um, uh, between categorizing people

00:11:18.720 as a conspiracy theorist, and then recognizing that a lot of people aren't conspiracy theorists,

00:11:24.540 but have legitimate questions.

00:11:26.520 Some people don't have legitimate questions and truly are conspiracy theorists.

00:11:30.680 And I'm not just talking about when it comes to vaccines, but when I, I'm talking about,

00:11:33.920 um, many different things.

00:11:35.380 People who are constantly looking for conspiracy theorists, they go down this black hole or

00:11:40.980 conspiracy theories.

00:11:42.020 They go down this black hole on the internet constantly.

00:11:44.900 They're listening to unnamed anonymous sources who claim to have some kind of a special knowledge

00:11:50.260 about what's really going on.

00:11:52.240 And they're not actually able to back up their research or give you their sources or give you

00:11:56.140 any kind of real substantial explanation for what's going on.

00:12:00.300 And people who get sucked into those kinds of theories are really searching for some kind

00:12:04.320 of Gnosticism, uh, that can't be found.

00:12:07.120 Gnosticism is a special or hidden knowledge.

00:12:09.580 And there's, um, a lot of clicks and even a lot of money to be gained.

00:12:14.460 If you are someone who claims to have all of this special hidden knowledge, because people

00:12:19.640 are constantly looking for alternative narratives than what they see, um, in front of them.

00:12:24.100 And we know that as Christians, that's wrong. 0.98

00:12:25.980 If you want to know what's really going on, you don't need to look to all of these agnostic 1.00

00:12:31.240 sources and all of these people who claim to have this special and hidden knowledge about

00:12:36.340 what's really going on behind the scenes.

00:12:39.000 What's really going on without a doubt that we know for sure is that God's plan of redemption,

00:12:44.400 eternal plan of redemption is always and forever going off without a hitch.

00:12:49.220 If you want to know what's really going on, what's really going on is that God is being

00:12:53.080 exceedingly patient with all of us.

00:12:55.680 So that more people can come to know Christ before he comes back and defeats sin and death

00:13:00.380 and sorrow and evil and wickedness forever and ever.

00:13:03.920 That's what's always really going on.

00:13:06.140 That's not a conspiracy theory.

00:13:07.520 That's not even some hidden knowledge that is special revelation, but it's accessible to

00:13:12.880 everyone in God's word through Jesus Christ.

00:13:16.400 And so if you're looking for an alternative narrative to the craziness that's going on,

00:13:20.540 if you just feel like you can't find all of the answers, we're not going to be able

00:13:23.780 to find all the answers here on earth.

00:13:25.740 But all wisdom and clarity about what's going on in the physical and the spiritual realm that

00:13:33.940 we at least can know now as finite human beings on earth can be found in God's word through

00:13:39.500 the Holy Spirit.

00:13:40.660 And so we don't have to wander through these black holes on the internet to find out the

00:13:46.880 real knowledge or the real game plan or the real narrative.

00:13:49.880 We can go to God's word, which is right in front of us to tell us what's really going on.

00:13:54.040 Now, that said, that doesn't mean that we have to accept every headline or we have to accept

00:13:58.900 everything the CDC says, or we have to accept certainly not everything the WHO says.

00:14:02.980 I've spent a lot of time talking about the serious, serious corruption in the WHO.

00:14:07.340 That doesn't mean that we shouldn't ask questions.

00:14:09.020 That doesn't mean that we shouldn't dig beneath the headlines and beneath the research and look

00:14:13.700 at the methodology of every research and look at who wrote each article and what biases

00:14:18.720 might be there or what's really going on and look at a wide range of sources on a particular story

00:14:23.820 to understand what's really behind the headline or what's really behind the mainstream narrative.

00:14:29.000 Obviously, I think that's so important.

00:14:31.220 And we're going to talk about that a little bit today when we talk about Black Lives Matter.

00:14:34.880 It's not a conspiracy theory to say, OK, what they're saying doesn't actually line up

00:14:39.580 with the data.

00:14:40.980 So we should be absolutely asking questions and we should be digging into what is real and

00:14:49.260 what is true as much as we can without obsessing over and looking for that special knowledge.

00:14:54.200 But look, we're looking for facts.

00:14:56.220 We're looking for named sources.

00:14:58.600 We're looking for things that can be verified, things that can be corroborated.

00:15:04.600 When we're trying to dig beneath the headline and try to figure out what's really going on,

00:15:09.220 I think those are the differentiating factors, some of them between digging and doing your

00:15:16.120 own research and following conspiracy theories that really have no substantial foundation.

00:15:23.560 The questions we should ask is, where is this coming from?

00:15:26.360 Does this sound true at all?

00:15:28.140 Are there facts to back this up?

00:15:31.420 Do I have any legitimate sources to back this up?

00:15:35.140 Are there other corroborating sources when it comes to whatever particular fact or narrative

00:15:40.820 that we have found in our research?

00:15:44.040 So it's very important to distinguish between fair questions and criticism and conspiracy

00:15:50.300 theories.

00:15:51.460 The former is good.

00:15:52.740 The latter is bad.

00:15:54.080 We have to use our discernment and use our wisdom to be able to distinguish between those

00:15:58.400 two things.

00:15:58.960 Whether we're talking about COVID, whether we're talking about the vaccine, or whether we're

00:16:03.700 talking about anything else, I think that it is incumbent upon us, especially as Christians

00:16:08.500 who are commanded to ask God for wisdom as a promise.

00:16:14.220 He tells us in James that wisdom is a promise, but also realizing that wisdom is a process.

00:16:18.740 We read throughout the book of Proverbs, that it's something that we have to seek out.

00:16:22.240 It's something that we have to work for.

00:16:25.680 It is incumbent upon us to be wise and to be discerning in all that we think, say, read,

00:16:30.700 believe, accept, and do.

00:16:32.200 I've talked very often on this podcast how I think right now, more than ever, maybe not

00:16:37.140 more than ever, I just feel like that because I'm in this present moment, but it is so important

00:16:41.720 for Christians to not live by lies.

00:16:45.220 And, you know, that's the name of Roger's book.

00:16:47.400 We've had him on the podcast, and he talks about how America is in this pre-totalitarian

00:16:52.260 state because of the fascist tactics of cancel mobs, of public harassers, of corporations,

00:17:02.760 of big tech, and that the minority view is getting more and more dangerous to hold, and

00:17:09.640 that the silencers are getting louder and louder.

00:17:12.480 And he talks about those in Soviet Russia who lived in the same time and how important

00:17:17.660 it was, how they determined and promised to themselves and to each other to not say

00:17:22.380 or believe or accept anything that they didn't really think, anything that isn't really true.

00:17:28.040 I think a lot of us are pressured to say things or to acquiesce or to compromise in

00:17:32.680 a way that isn't really true to ourselves, that isn't really right, that we know isn't

00:17:37.520 really factual.

00:17:38.380 We're not sure it's really factual, but we're saying it because we're told that, for example,

00:17:41.800 posting a black square is empathetic. 0.78

00:17:43.640 We have no idea what it actually connects to.

00:17:46.740 Like, we have no idea if the movement or if the social media hashtag is actually in relation

00:17:53.380 to anything that is factual, but we're just going to do it because we feel pressured, because

00:17:59.420 we don't want to be called a bigot.

00:18:01.100 We don't want to be called a racist.

00:18:02.520 And so we just go along with this performative activism without actually researching because

00:18:08.440 we don't want to be castigated.

00:18:10.020 We don't want to be condemned, is on the wrong side of history or whatever.

00:18:13.220 Well, Christians have got to abandon that. 1.00

00:18:15.720 We've got to abandon the performative activism.

00:18:19.560 We've got to abandon the compromise.

00:18:21.540 We have to be dogged in our pursuit of the truth.

00:18:23.960 We have to refuse to accept anything that is not true.

00:18:27.020 We have to refuse as far as we can to say, refuse to say anything that is not true.

00:18:32.640 That doesn't mean it's going to be perfect.

00:18:33.960 You guys always tell me if I missed context or I didn't say something that was true or

00:18:39.400 I messed up.

00:18:40.160 That's never, ever my intention.

00:18:42.600 But that's what I that's what I tried to do.

00:18:44.480 You guys know I'm coming from a conservative Christian perspective, and I don't hide that

00:18:48.180 at all.

00:18:49.340 But that doesn't mean that I am trying to hide something from you or lie to you or tell

00:18:54.460 you that there's not another side to it.

00:18:56.220 I'm always encouraging you guys do your own research.

00:18:59.180 You should fact check me.

00:19:00.440 Make sure that what I'm saying is true, and if it's not, then you should tell me.

00:19:05.500 And we should tell each other and make sure and ensure and encourage one another in believing

00:19:12.200 that which is true, accepting that which is true, and saying that which is true.

00:19:16.340 It's the only thing that is going to keep us sane when the world is saying that war is

00:19:21.320 peace and freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength, and that men are women and women

00:19:27.080 are men, we have to hold fast to that which we know is true, or else we're just going 0.90

00:19:32.300 to be tossed on the waves of cultural changes that have no grounding, no grounding in reality,

00:19:40.240 no grounding in morality, and certainly no grounding in any kind of biblical truth.

00:19:45.640 All right, that was just a little rant.

00:19:47.260 Now I want to talk about AOC, why she is going viral on Twitter right now for things that

00:19:52.600 she said in her Instagram Live.

00:19:58.720 All right, so since this was trendy, I do want to talk about AOC and her Instagram Live.

00:20:04.220 I think that there's a lot of fair criticism of AOC that she doesn't seem to really take

00:20:10.240 as fair criticism, which I understand when it's personal criticism towards you.

00:20:14.300 It can be hard to take while, but she's very public in her reactions about the criticism

00:20:20.620 that she receives.

00:20:21.540 She seems to always see it as some kind of personal attack, and that's something that

00:20:25.860 I'll talk about in just a minute, but there's also some unfair criticism of AOC.

00:20:30.980 So I think any criticism about her that has to do with the fact that, oh my gosh, she does

00:20:35.340 these Instagram Lives, she thinks it's all about her, or she goes on Twitch, or she's always

00:20:39.740 on Twitter, yes, I understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, this is

00:20:45.800 why she's so popular, because she maintains this level of accessibility, even while having

00:20:51.100 millions and millions of followers.

00:20:53.080 She maintains a level of relatability, even though she's a congresswoman, and that's why 0.94

00:20:57.700 so many people probably worldwide follow and support her.

00:21:01.560 It's not because of her ideas, I don't think.

00:21:04.580 Obviously, I'm a conservative, so I disagree with her.

00:21:06.720 It's not because she is necessarily bringing some skill to the table that people are impressed

00:21:14.960 by, but because of her down-to-earthness, because she seems like a regular person.

00:21:21.160 So I think when most young people go to Congress, they feel like they really have to button up.

00:21:26.900 They feel like, okay, people aren't going to take me seriously.

00:21:29.280 They're going to underestimate me because I'm young, and so I really have to be very mature,

00:21:33.760 and I have to dress and act and present myself in such a way that people know that I am one

00:21:39.880 of them, that I am an adult.

00:21:42.020 I think AOC has decided that she's not going to do that, and I know this is going, this

00:21:47.140 in and of itself is going to sound like a criticism, and well, it is and it's not.

00:21:53.120 It's actually something that I think is very valuable to her and a very important tool in

00:21:58.180 her toolkit.

00:21:59.500 AOC has very uniquely retained a level of adolescence and juvenility and, dare I say,

00:22:07.560 immaturity that makes her very appealing to a young audience.

00:22:11.900 So she has gone to Congress, and she has decided she's not only going to continue going on Twitch

00:22:17.140 and going on Instagram Live and using these different forms of media to reach young people,

00:22:25.080 but she's also not going to change how she talks. 0.96

00:22:27.840 She's still going to say like every other word.

00:22:30.060 She's still not going to be very articulate in how she is able to explain things.

00:22:35.900 She might be confident, but it seems to me that she has not made a whole lot of effort

00:22:41.400 in trying to change how she presents herself and trying to make herself into a good or effective

00:22:47.140 or a mature-sounding communicator because whether she is defending something or questioning someone

00:22:52.940 in some kind of committee hearing on the Hill or she is talking on Instagram or she's talking

00:22:58.540 on Twitch or in an interview, it's all kind of the same.

00:23:01.800 I mean, she sounds like a young 20-something who is just figuring out how politics works.

00:23:07.580 And I know that sounds like a kind of underhanded, but I'm just saying I think that's why so many

00:23:14.960 people are attracted to her.

00:23:16.620 I think that's why she appeals to so many young people because she still sounds like one of them.

00:23:23.620 She still looks like one of them.

00:23:25.880 She sounds really young to me.

00:23:27.900 And I know, again, I know this might sound rude.

00:23:30.980 I'm not trying to be rude.

00:23:32.500 She sounds a lot younger than a typical 30-year-old.

00:23:36.320 And I think that's why there are so many teenagers and so many college students and so

00:23:39.620 many young people that love her so much because of that.

00:23:42.240 Because she has retained a level of adolescence in how she speaks and how she carries herself

00:23:47.960 that people really like.

00:23:49.720 I've never watched one of her Instagram Lives because I don't follow her on Instagram, but

00:23:53.820 the clips are typically replayed on Twitter.

00:23:56.800 And so I'll catch what people are saying about it.

00:23:59.080 And I think that her drinking wine or whatever on Instagram Live or talking about this, she has

00:24:07.560 no idea what a disposal is on Instagram Live or like building furniture, making macaroni

00:24:15.100 and cheese, whatever it is.

00:24:17.040 I think that those are really effective.

00:24:19.560 I think that's great that she does that.

00:24:22.360 Someone on the right, like a conservative lawmaker, is free to do something like that too, rather

00:24:28.720 than just criticize her for doing it because it's actually effective.

00:24:32.180 But someone on the left, I mean, someone on the right hasn't done that.

00:24:35.880 And so more power to her for knowing her audience, knowing how to reach her audience, knowing

00:24:42.000 what accessibility looks like, knowing what relatability looks like.

00:24:45.440 And of course, yes, there is double standard here because if there were, say there were

00:24:50.180 a blonde 28-year-old, well, I think she's, I don't know if she's 29, 30, I'm 28, we're 0.95

00:24:57.060 almost the same age.

00:24:58.200 If there were a blonde 29-year-old congressperson who acted the same way that AOC did, who did 1.00

00:25:05.800 the same kind of Instagram Lives, who talked in the same way that AOC did, who does, or

00:25:10.760 she did the interviews, CNN, MSNBC interviews the same way that AOC does, very unable to defend

00:25:19.580 her views, very unable to articulately and confidently and self-assuredly defend what she thinks or

00:25:26.340 articulate her ideas, if there was a blonde Republican lawmaker, 29 years old, who said 1.00

00:25:33.580 like as much as AOC does, who explained things the way AOC does on her Instagram Lives and

00:25:40.240 these various, you know, spontaneous things that she does.

00:25:43.400 I mean, this person would be called all kinds of things. 0.98

00:25:47.140 She would be called a buffoon. 0.94

00:25:48.840 And I'm not just talking about random trolls on Twitter because there are a lot of people 0.90

00:25:52.120 that say those things about AOC, but the mainstream media, we're talking blue check journalists 1.00

00:25:57.740 would be calling that Republican young lawmaker an idiot, stupid, brainless, especially, oh 1.00

00:26:05.480 my gosh, if she had a Southern accent. 1.00

00:26:07.920 Can you imagine if a young, blonde congressperson with a Southern accent talked in the same way,

00:26:15.940 conducted herself, carried herself in the same way that AOC did?

00:26:18.500 Oh my gosh, she would be the, she would be the subject of every single cartoon, of every 1.00

00:26:25.560 single caricature of some kind of Southern idiot out there. 1.00

00:26:30.520 And so there's certainly a double standard. 0.99

00:26:32.300 That said, I think that AOC does the accessibility thing very well.

00:26:37.840 And Instagram Live is one of the, one of the best tools that she has to do that.

00:26:43.600 And she did that last night and she was still talking about the Capitol riot.

00:26:48.980 And when I say still, I just mean that it's a few weeks.

00:26:51.400 You don't have to stop talking about it.

00:26:52.840 It was a really big deal.

00:26:54.620 It was a very traumatic incident.

00:26:56.160 It was a crazy thing to watch and something that no sane person is proud of or excited about

00:27:03.280 or happy about in any way.

00:27:04.700 There's a lot of us who have continued to talk about it and the problem with political

00:27:08.380 violence and all of that, AOC, the reason why she's going viral and talking about this 1.00

00:27:14.200 last night is that she said that she, she experienced sexual assault and she talked about how the

00:27:19.680 trauma from that kind of compounded with the trauma from the Capitol.

00:27:23.840 Here's what she said, quote, the reason I'm getting emotional in this moment is because

00:27:27.440 these folks who tell us to move on, that it's not a big deal, that we should forget what's

00:27:31.320 happened or even telling us to apologize.

00:27:33.300 These are the same tactics of abusers.

00:27:35.060 And I'm a survivor of sexual assault and I haven't told many people that in my life.

00:27:38.860 But when we go through trauma, trauma compounds on each other.

00:27:43.100 So I have no problem.

00:27:45.420 A lot of people have a problem with her saying this.

00:27:47.180 I mean, this is her personal Instagram.

00:27:48.740 She wants, if that's her perspective and those are her feelings, I don't see anything wrong

00:27:52.700 with her saying something like that.

00:27:54.600 I mean, of course, you don't have to move on from this.

00:27:57.140 You can deal with it however you want to.

00:27:59.620 The problem that I have with this has nothing to do with what she said about sexual assault.

00:28:03.120 She shared that experience.

00:28:04.920 And obviously, I have all of the compassion and the love and the sadness in the world

00:28:10.420 for anyone who experienced sexual assault and all the anger in the world towards people

00:28:15.840 who dehumanize and objectify people in that way through sexual assault.

00:28:21.840 And so that aside, you know, that is her if she wants to share that, if she wants to talk

00:28:27.180 about that, that's totally fine.

00:28:29.020 If she wants to talk about how that trauma compounded with the Capitol Hill trauma, that's

00:28:34.120 totally fine.

00:28:35.540 What bothers me is how she has talked about this in general, how she has continually talked

00:28:41.240 about this as if the Capitol, she is the only person who experienced or that Democrats were

00:28:48.680 the only people, but specifically her, was the only person that really dealt with trauma

00:28:54.360 and that everyone else is just telling her to move on and everyone else is just trying

00:28:58.440 to minimize it.

00:28:59.160 And everyone on the other side of this is just some kind of abuser because they're telling

00:29:03.920 her to move on.

00:29:04.720 And she is likening that to a sexual assault abuser.

00:29:08.220 I'm not sure that is a fair characterization.

00:29:10.960 Sure, you can share whatever feelings that you want to, and you can totally feel that trauma.

00:29:17.200 Absolutely.

00:29:17.840 I'm not taking that away from her.

00:29:19.320 I'm not saying she shouldn't have shared that, but this is a pattern that we have continued

00:29:24.260 to see from her, that she is making the Capitol riots about only her and what she experienced.

00:29:29.420 And I think this was, to me, most grotesquely seen when she tweeted this at Senator Cruz.

00:29:35.280 I am happy to work with Republicans on this issue where there's common ground.

00:29:39.680 This was in response to Ted Cruz saying something, agreeing with her about something.

00:29:45.560 But you almost, to Ted Cruz, you almost had me murdered three weeks ago, so you can sit

00:29:50.540 this one out.

00:29:51.320 Happy to work with almost any other GOP that aren't trying to get me killed.

00:29:57.720 Okay, so she is claiming because Ted Cruz was going to peacefully, whether you agree

00:30:03.420 with it or not, he was peacefully going to ask on the Senate floor for investigation

00:30:09.100 into legitimate allegations of voter fraud and voter irregularities, that he actually directly

00:30:14.500 attempted to murder her.

00:30:16.680 You are accusing a senator of attempted murder because of something that he was going to

00:30:22.140 say that wasn't at all tied to actually what happened at the Capitol.

00:30:25.580 It wasn't.

00:30:26.380 Like, that's just not a factual correlation.

00:30:28.620 It's certainly not a factual causation.

00:30:31.240 And so if she is willing to accuse someone of attempted murder because of something that

00:30:38.700 they said that was not in conjunction with the riot or the storming of the Capitol, then

00:30:48.080 to me, that tells me a little bit about her perspective of this whole thing, that she is

00:30:53.380 implying that she was the key target, that she was a target or she was the target of the

00:31:00.160 riots and the violence and the terror and the chaos that we saw at the Capitol on January

00:31:05.880 6th.

00:31:06.380 And that's not true.

00:31:07.760 The targets of this that we know via investigation were apparently Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi, some

00:31:13.400 other GOP lawmakers, the DNC and RNC buildings.

00:31:17.200 There was a random person, yes, who tweeted assassinate AOC, which is awful and terrible,

00:31:22.800 worse kind of people that tweet things like that.

00:31:25.380 But unfortunately, that happens to lawmakers and really just influencers of all backgrounds

00:31:31.120 all the time on Twitter.

00:31:32.420 That's a terrible thing.

00:31:33.560 But that happens to people all the time.

00:31:35.780 She said on Monday, AOC, that she was terrified when someone was banging on her door.

00:31:40.820 She said this in the in the Instagram live that she was terrified someone was banging on

00:31:46.100 her door, but it ended up being Capitol Police.

00:31:48.020 Then she said on Instagram live that this officer approached her with hostility, that she didn't

00:31:54.500 know if he was angry and that that was really scary because once again, she didn't know if

00:31:59.580 this Capitol Hill person or this Capitol officer was on her side.

00:32:03.680 And he very angrily and gruffly, she said, told her to go to a different part of the building.

00:32:09.420 My response in that situation, if I were retelling the story, would have been, thank you.

00:32:15.220 I'm so thankful that this Capitol officer took the time to specifically come to my office

00:32:20.740 and to tell me where I could go to be safe.

00:32:24.020 I'm sure it never occurred to her that maybe this officer in a very high stress situation

00:32:29.020 was just expressing, was just embodying the kind of angst that everyone felt at the time,

00:32:36.700 that he's a human being, too, and he was just doing his job in a very precarious situation.

00:32:42.680 And maybe, and this is hard for anyone to believe, but maybe he came in and was trying

00:32:48.120 to assess the situation because he knew that there were people in Nancy Pelosi's office

00:32:51.860 and he had no idea if there were going to be rioters in her office, too.

00:32:54.960 That could have been why he came in there.

00:32:56.440 And maybe just for a second, maybe he didn't recognize AOC.

00:32:59.840 Like maybe he doesn't even know really who she is or what her significance is.

00:33:03.560 Maybe he didn't recognize her face.

00:33:04.780 Maybe he didn't recognize the staff or the AOC said, you know, was feeling like he had

00:33:09.900 to size up this officer.

00:33:12.200 Like maybe that's maybe it has nothing to do with her feeling or with her being targeted

00:33:18.540 or with this Capitol police officer being in opposition to her.

00:33:22.780 And I think this is the problem when anyone, any one of us makes ourselves constantly the

00:33:27.620 center of a narrative in something that is in actuality a lot bigger than us is that

00:33:33.580 we start to see everyone is out to get us.

00:33:36.420 Everyone is either for us as the star of the show where everyone is against us as the star

00:33:41.440 of the show.

00:33:42.440 And the reality is for most of us, even it's even for someone as popular as AOC is that

00:33:48.120 most things aren't about us.

00:33:49.380 Like most things don't center on us.

00:33:51.260 Most people aren't necessarily for us or against us.

00:33:53.860 They're just not thinking about us.

00:33:55.100 And I know AOC, like I said, gets a lot of criticism.

00:33:58.440 A lot of it is fair.

00:33:59.660 Some of it is very unfair.

00:34:02.000 And so I understand why she might be on the defense.

00:34:04.640 But when it comes to something like this, like the Capitol attack, I think it's really

00:34:10.060 important for her to realize that there were all the GOP lawmakers experienced trauma as

00:34:16.660 well.

00:34:17.420 Every single innocent person that was at the Capitol, every lawmaker, every staffer was

00:34:22.620 also a victim of what happened.

00:34:24.200 She's not the only victim of what happened.

00:34:26.020 She is not the only one who experienced trauma.

00:34:29.520 She's not the only one who was in this very confusing and chaotic situation.

00:34:34.000 She's not the only one who may have felt like they were going to die that day or like they

00:34:37.900 were in serious danger.

00:34:39.460 I think the correct reaction would be, how can we stop this from happening to our country

00:34:47.420 and show a little bit of grace and deference and compassion and give some benefit of the doubt

00:34:52.740 to the police officers who came to make sure that you were in a safe situation instead

00:34:57.480 of, again, making it about who is against you.

00:35:00.320 And that's something that I see so often from AOC.

00:35:03.640 Everything is about who is for her or against her when most of the time, most people aren't

00:35:08.560 thinking about you.

00:35:09.300 Most people aren't thinking about me.

00:35:11.040 Most people are not for us or against us.

00:35:13.800 And she is very good.

00:35:15.400 Maybe it's on purpose.

00:35:16.840 She's very good about centering herself in the narrative and making this about for or

00:35:22.580 against AOC.

00:35:24.140 The reality is the whole Capitol riot is a lot bigger.

00:35:27.340 It's a lot bigger than that.

00:35:29.000 It's a lot bigger than AOC.

00:35:30.340 It's a lot bigger than one person.

00:35:31.940 It's even a lot bigger than the president.

00:35:34.280 And I think that when we decenter ourselves from any narrative, we are able to see things

00:35:39.320 rightly.

00:35:40.500 And I think that she would be able to make a better assessment.

00:35:43.380 Again, this is aside from her talking about her sexual assault.

00:35:46.800 She can talk about that however and whenever she wants to.

00:35:50.400 I'm talking about, in general, how she has talked about this and how she has laid responsibility

00:35:55.680 on the feet of all of the GOP, especially people like Ted Cruz, accusing him of attempted

00:36:01.360 murder.

00:36:02.360 And she's doing that.

00:36:03.460 She's unable to look at this rightly and look at this fairly because she has centered herself

00:36:08.740 in all of it when it's not about her.

00:36:11.220 It's not about her.

00:36:12.140 Um, and she lays responsibility then at the feet of her political enemies that she doesn't

00:36:18.620 take, uh, that she doesn't take herself. 0.78

00:36:22.060 Remember the BLM riots. 0.78

00:36:24.000 And this is not to, this is not at all to minimize what happened at the Capitol, but this is to

00:36:29.480 make an important point, uh, which murdered at least, at least two black children, Antonio

00:36:34.160 Mays and Sequoia Turner, in addition to dozens of other people were celebrated by AOC.

00:36:39.380 I'm not talking about those specific murders, but she didn't have anything to say about those.

00:36:44.060 She just praised the protests in general, saying on Twitter that protests are, quote,

00:36:48.360 supposed to make people feel uncomfortable.

00:36:50.940 Without acknowledging that the discomfort that some people felt during not just, not the peaceful

00:36:56.600 protests, but the riots that were orchestrated by BLM in conjunction with Antifa, uh, people were

00:37:02.180 uncomfortable with it because people were dying from them.

00:37:04.280 People were losing their homes.

00:37:06.020 People were losing their livelihoods.

00:37:08.000 People were losing their businesses.

00:37:10.080 Innocent people were made to feel, quote, uncomfortable through violence.

00:37:15.400 And AOC didn't acknowledge any of those things.

00:37:17.620 She actually condoned all of the demonstrations, saying that, you know, basically that it was

00:37:23.040 necessary for their intended goals.

00:37:25.520 I mean, so she's not going to take any responsibility whatsoever for being silent where she should

00:37:31.200 have spoken up and saying something where she shouldn't have been, where she should have

00:37:34.880 been silent when it comes to the violence that we've seen across the country for the

00:37:38.860 past seven months.

00:37:39.680 But she is going to accuse Ted Cruz and accuse other lawmakers of attempted murder and being

00:37:46.360 against her and even a Capitol officer of potentially being hostile towards her.

00:37:51.180 That just doesn't seem right.

00:37:52.740 That doesn't seem fair.

00:37:53.460 And again, that's what happens when we center ourselves in a narrative that we're not actually

00:37:57.000 the center of, when we star ourselves in a show that we're not actually the start of.

00:38:01.020 And I understand a lot of people are going to say, well, you can't compare the Capitol

00:38:05.040 riots to the Black Lives Matter riots.

00:38:08.060 And I'm not comparing the Capitol riots to the Black Lives Matter peaceful protests.

00:38:12.100 I am comparing violent riots to violent riot.

00:38:15.940 People will still say you can't compare those two things because Black Lives Matter, those

00:38:19.980 demonstrations, even the looting and the arson and the violence, that was all fighting

00:38:23.220 for their lives.

00:38:25.580 But that's not going to cut it.

00:38:27.340 That's that's not going to cut it.

00:38:28.680 That double standard just doesn't work with me.

00:38:30.380 There were more lives taken as a result of BLM and Antifa chaos in the past six months

00:38:34.880 than there were unarmed Black men killed by the police, which, according to the Washington

00:38:39.600 Post database, was 15.

00:38:42.140 So I'm saying if AOC is going to accuse Ted Cruz of attempted murder for making a statement

00:38:48.040 on the Senate floor, but will take no responsibility for her own rhetoric and some of and talk about 0.65

00:38:53.080 some of the misinformation and the false narratives that pushed her own side to violence in some

00:38:58.860 cases, then I just don't think that I don't think her accusations and I don't think her

00:39:03.660 assessments are very fair.

00:39:05.060 If both sides could just consistently and resolutely say, look, I'm against political

00:39:09.300 violence of all kinds.

00:39:10.600 I'm against storming the Capitol.

00:39:12.220 I'm against arson.

00:39:13.360 I'm against looting.

00:39:14.220 I'm against rioting that ends the lives and hurts the lives of innocent people, no matter

00:39:18.820 the alleged cause.

00:39:20.540 That I think that we could the vast majority of the country could probably come together

00:39:25.140 in unison and say, yeah, that's bad.

00:39:27.120 But unfortunately, we're unable to do that because the truth is misinformation, exaggeration,

00:39:32.940 cherry picked narratives fanned the flame of both sides of this violence.

00:39:37.500 And yes, this is a both sides situation.

00:39:40.440 It's not so easy as, well, the Capitol terrorists were mad about a fairly won election and BLM 0.96

00:39:45.460 are just fighting for justice.

00:39:47.920 No, no, no, no, that's not true.

00:39:49.940 There were plenty of peaceful Trump rallies, plenty of peaceful BLM protests.

00:39:54.100 I remember, I think it was the Washington Post or Time magazine reported that BLM only there

00:39:59.800 only 7% of their demonstrations turned violent.

00:40:04.320 OK, well, if you're going to use that standard, then you could say only what, 0.5% of Trump rallies

00:40:09.860 turned violent.

00:40:11.140 So again, you have to apply that standard consistently.

00:40:14.340 And I don't really care whether it's 7% or 1% or 50%. 0.95

00:40:19.400 The fact of the matter is that percent represents real people's lives.

00:40:25.360 It represents people murdered.

00:40:27.020 It represents towns burning down.

00:40:29.380 Both sides have been fed misinformation about their causes.

00:40:32.380 The narrative that Trump duly won every swing state and that Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi

00:40:37.360 and Governor Kemp were all colluding to take down Trump isn't true.

00:40:40.860 Were there some voting irregularities?

00:40:42.800 Yes.

00:40:43.680 But that's completely unrelated to the lawmakers at the Capitol and the storming of the Capitol

00:40:49.100 that accomplished nothing except releasing some sort of angst. 1.00

00:40:54.100 It was stupid. 1.00

00:40:55.020 It was wrong. 1.00

00:40:56.660 In addition to other conspiracies, Trump's still going to have four more years.

00:41:00.520 He's going to declare martial law.

00:41:01.940 We're going to have a blackout so Trump can finally drain the swamp and then he's going

00:41:05.940 to become president again. 0.99

00:41:07.440 He has to get rid of these satanic pedophiles and hang Mike Pence for treason. 1.00

00:41:12.120 It's insane. 1.00

00:41:13.340 All of that 100% helped fuel the chaos that we saw on January 6th.

00:41:18.340 But also, we have to recognize that the narrative on the other side that the police, for example, 0.92

00:41:23.800 are hunting and killing disproportionately black men or that black men are killed by the police

00:41:29.360 at a disproportionate rate is not factual if you look at just the number that are not just 0.96

00:41:36.100 the number that are killed, but also the number of police interactions, arrests, and crimes per year

00:41:40.540 of each group.

00:41:41.740 And I will link a variety of sources in the description and also the plethora of episodes

00:41:46.760 that we have done diving into the numbers and the statistics and the data on this.

00:41:51.860 That doesn't mean that there are not warranted cases of police shootings and serious injustice,

00:41:57.440 even injustice that might be disproportionately racialized.

00:42:01.040 There are unwarranted killings, have been in just the past few years, of both white and

00:42:08.600 black men. 0.56

00:42:09.440 The problem is you only, for the most part, hear the names of black men and then we're 0.95

00:42:14.280 told this is only happening to one race.

00:42:16.580 This is disproportionately happening to one race.

00:42:18.760 And that's not true.

00:42:20.120 Like most people don't know the name.

00:42:22.100 I mean, she has made some headlines, but a lot of people don't know the name Justine Damon,

00:42:26.500 for example, because there are no protests or hashtags for her or for Tony Tempa.

00:42:31.100 And those are, I would say, two of the most prominent names of white people who were, in

00:42:36.000 my opinion, they were not justified at all in being killed by the police.

00:42:41.440 I think Elijah McClain, he is a black young man who I think was totally unjustifiably 0.97

00:42:47.500 tackled by the police and made and sedated by the police to the point to where he died.

00:42:54.620 His heart stopped.

00:42:55.440 I think that was totally unjustified.

00:42:57.440 But we're unable to assess the issue, the possible issue of police brutality in some

00:43:03.760 cases, rightly, when we're told that this is only happening or this is disproportionately

00:43:08.780 happening to black, to unarmed black men, when that is just not factually true.

00:43:14.940 Like we don't even know the names of the 21 unarmed white people shot and killed by the

00:43:20.060 police last year because it's not a part of the narrative.

00:43:23.160 Like it's not a part of the movement. 0.99

00:43:25.000 The truth is, for the most part, white people kill other white people when they kill and when 1.00

00:43:31.580 when black Americans kill other black Americans, sadly, at a rate that is completely disproportionate 1.00

00:43:37.780 to their population size. 0.99

00:43:39.560 There are more white people killed by black people per year than the other way around, according 0.92

00:43:43.900 to FBI data. 0.98

00:43:44.760 So again, this idea that white people are hunting black people in this country is not true.

00:43:50.340 So there is misinformation on both sides that fuels this chaos.

00:43:54.080 I won't put everyone on the line for violence, though, if they didn't call for it.

00:43:58.820 I don't think it's fair to say that people who talked about election fraud are responsible

00:44:02.680 for violence.

00:44:03.840 And certainly people who talked about police brutality, I would not say are responsible

00:44:08.300 for violence either.

00:44:09.460 But we do need to make sure as far as we can to make our assessments as accurate as possible.

00:44:15.300 We need to try to be consistent, to not accuse the other side of attempted murder when that's

00:44:19.960 not what happens.

00:44:21.440 Again, we have to refuse as far as we can, as far as it concerns us, not to live by lies,

00:44:28.300 even if something is popular.

00:44:30.080 Just because something is popular, just because a narrative is repeated over and over again in

00:44:34.920 your circles, just because someone tells you that believing something or repeating something

00:44:38.900 is empathetic or kind or right, doesn't make it those things.

00:44:43.200 Things will only get worse if we continue to delude ourselves with that which isn't true.

00:44:48.340 If we continue to accuse the other side of that which we are doing ourselves, things will

00:44:53.560 only get worse and more chaotic.

00:44:55.400 And another instance, I think, of this just living in this kind of upside down world is

00:45:01.720 Black Lives Matter being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:45:05.540 The New York Post reported that they were nominated by a Norwegian politician, Peter Eide, I don't

00:45:12.300 know how to pronounce his last name, who called it, quote, a very important worldwide movement

00:45:15.380 to fight racial injustice.

00:45:17.200 When Eide was asked about BLM violence, he only said studies have shown that most of the

00:45:21.000 demonstrations organized by Black Lives Matter have been peaceful.

00:45:23.800 Then, of course, there have been incidents, but most of them have been caused by the activities

00:45:27.500 of either police or counter protesters.

00:45:29.020 That's not true.

00:45:29.880 That's just not that's not factually accurate at all.

00:45:34.680 Unfortunately, I mean, as Ayanna Pressley said herself, they believe a lot of Black Lives 0.50

00:45:40.120 Matter activists believe there has to be unrest in the streets as long as there is, quote,

00:45:44.320 unrest in our lives.

00:45:46.480 And so violence, certainly looting, certainly is justified.

00:45:50.500 It's a justified tactic by some people on the left.

00:45:53.080 That's why NPR profiled this author who wrote the book in defense of looting, which she

00:45:58.520 actually wrote back in April before George Floyd happened.

00:46:01.600 And what she said, look, yes, looting is part of the Marxist socialist uprising that needs

00:46:06.140 to happen in this country.

00:46:07.320 So there's certainly a lot of different causes intertwined.

00:46:11.280 The founders of Black Lives Matter have said themselves that they are trained Marxists.

00:46:16.180 They've made and, you know, Marxists, they say that they are socialists, but they love money.

00:46:21.440 They love capitalism for themselves, which is why Black Lives Matter continues to rake in 1.00

00:46:25.680 millions and millions and billions of dollars.

00:46:28.540 And yet, according to Fox News, actually, this is just on Twitter.

00:46:33.320 Black Lives Matter DC, along with, I think, 10 other local chapters of Black Lives Matter,

00:46:38.380 released a statement in November saying, look, Black Lives Matter global network is not held

00:46:45.580 accountable in any way.

00:46:46.920 And the money that they've promised us over the past few years has not come to us, hasn't

00:46:51.300 come to our causes.

00:46:52.400 It hasn't helped fund these grassroots movements.

00:46:54.940 And the leadership acts in a way that is completely disconnected from what the local chapters of

00:47:00.180 Black Lives Matter wants.

00:47:01.360 And so my question is, what are they what is the Black Lives Matter global network at least

00:47:06.980 being nominated for in the way of peace?

00:47:09.220 Like, can you tell me what they've actually accomplished in the way of peace?

00:47:13.420 I'm not sure I'm not sure that anyone can.

00:47:16.380 I mean, I look at some of their their points.

00:47:19.980 There's like 13 points that Black Lives Matter believes, and these are now being taught in

00:47:25.160 a lot of schools across the country.

00:47:27.020 And one of the points is that we see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are

00:47:30.920 aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black folk who exist in different

00:47:35.060 parts of the world.

00:47:35.720 And by the way, that's not that's not necessarily true.

00:47:38.560 Like, if you talk to a Black person that is not from America, they have a very different 1.00

00:47:44.020 perspective.

00:47:44.780 And unfortunately, a lot of Black Lives Matter activists, if there was a Black person either 0.51

00:47:49.380 in America or outside of America that doesn't agree with them, they will accuse that Black

00:47:54.000 person of being colonized or having internalized white supremacy just because they disagree with

00:47:59.340 them.

00:47:59.480 I mean, if you look at, for example, Ibram X.

00:48:02.240 Kendi, how he talks about scholar and academic John McWhorter, they disagree on ideas.

00:48:08.040 And, you know, Ibram X.

00:48:09.520 Kendi constantly tries to condescend and condemn John McWhorter for basically being a racist 0.80

00:48:15.900 and a white supremacist.

00:48:17.120 And so this idea of being a part of a global Black family, yeah, of course, if you agree

00:48:20.620 with them.

00:48:21.360 Their point 11 in their statement is, quote, Black Villages, which reads, we are committed to

00:48:26.100 disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure.

00:48:29.980 By the way, I would like to say that that's not Western-prescribed.

00:48:33.440 Mom, dad, kids, that's not Western-prescribed.

00:48:36.200 It's how biology works.

00:48:39.260 And so cultures around the world for all of time have formed themselves in those kinds

00:48:45.920 of families.

00:48:46.580 That doesn't mean that there hasn't been help from villages or help from towns or help

00:48:52.080 from friends and extended family when it comes to raising children.

00:48:55.100 That's definitely true.

00:48:56.940 But this idea of a mom and a dad and a kid, that's not just Western-prescribed.

00:49:01.640 You can find that anywhere.

00:49:04.640 And by the way, even if you don't believe in the Bible, the Bible is not a Western book.

00:49:09.120 The Bible is an Eastern book that was written by Eastern people, was not written by white

00:49:14.760 people.

00:49:15.820 And in Genesis 1, we see the formulation of the family.

00:49:18.660 Again, whether or not you believe in the spiritual authority of the book, it was still a book that

00:49:22.180 was written thousands and thousands of years ago and not in the West.

00:49:25.100 So this idea that the West has just prescribed and created mom, dad, kids formulation of

00:49:30.320 the family just isn't, again, historically accurate.

00:49:32.980 But in the world of CRT, that views everything as West bad, America bad, whiteness bad. 0.90

00:49:39.320 You have to attach anything that is conservative and anything that is not progressive, anything

00:49:44.740 that is bad to those categories in order for your CRT narrative to move forward.

00:49:49.820 So they say in this point, 11, so we want to disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family 0.58

00:49:55.960 structure requirement by supporting each other's extended families and villages that collectively

00:50:01.700 care for one another.

00:50:03.240 You get that?

00:50:03.880 Your child doesn't belong to you. 0.87

00:50:05.300 It belongs to the village.

00:50:06.500 And especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

00:50:12.080 You'll notice that they purposely leave out the word fathers.

00:50:15.180 Mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

00:50:19.040 So the village has your kids.

00:50:21.280 Fathers, I guess, have no say despite the fact that lack of fatherness or fatherness, lack

00:50:28.120 of fatherhood and the present, the lack of present dads in all kinds of communities in

00:50:36.520 America is one of our biggest problems.

00:50:38.360 And if you look at the data surrounding fatherlessness, you've got higher rates of teen pregnancy, higher

00:50:44.220 rates of depression and suicide for kids without present dads.

00:50:47.140 You've got higher rates of teen delinquency.

00:50:49.460 You've got lower rates of high school and college graduation, higher rates of poverty and

00:50:54.140 unemployment when kids do not have present dads at home.

00:50:57.760 God created it that way.

00:50:59.080 He created it that way.

00:51:00.740 We need fathers.

00:51:02.360 Like, we need strong men in our lives.

00:51:04.240 The genders aren't interchangeable.

00:51:05.820 Parents are not interchangeable.

00:51:07.320 Like, we need strong men.

00:51:09.860 We need strong moms, too. 1.00

00:51:11.320 Of course, mothers are absolutely irreplaceable. 1.00

00:51:14.740 But to dismiss the need for fathers, especially in this point, which is, I guarantee you, is

00:51:20.640 absolutely on purpose, is to just perpetuate so many of the problems that we're already

00:51:26.340 dealing with in this country.

00:51:27.980 And then their other point is we are committed to embracing and making space for trans brothers

00:51:31.260 and sisters to, wow, so they say trans brothers and sisters.

00:51:34.620 And then they put on you the gender binary of brothers and sisters.

00:51:38.500 To participate and lead, we are committed to being self-reflexive and doing the work required

00:51:42.980 to dismantle cisgender privilege.

00:51:46.620 All right?

00:51:47.380 And uplift black trans folk, especially black trans women, who continue to be disproportionately

00:51:52.880 impacted by trans antagonistic violence.

00:51:55.580 Which, by the way, again, is not factually true.

00:51:59.060 That's actually not factually true, that last part.

00:52:03.340 And so I'm, you know, I'm not surprised by them being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:52:08.940 By the way, Trump was also nominated.

00:52:11.040 Jared Kushner was also nominated for their workings in the Middle East and for the peace deals that

00:52:17.460 especially Jared Kushner has pressed forward, which I do think is impressive.

00:52:22.060 But I understand a lot of people are going to have a problem with that, too.

00:52:24.600 A lot of people are going to say they've actually caused violence and have been destructive in a

00:52:28.220 variety of ways.

00:52:29.040 And so we don't have to agree with all the nominations.

00:52:31.300 And I think it's fair to bring to bring that up.

00:52:34.980 But this reflex that I think so many people in America have to just jump on the bandwagon of

00:52:41.040 having to support Black Lives Matter and all the narratives surrounding it in order to prove that

00:52:45.600 you're a good person, I think you've got to reject that.

00:52:48.460 Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength.

00:52:50.620 Love your neighbor as yourself.

00:52:52.520 Look to the Bible for the definitions of justice, for the definitions of love, for the definitions

00:52:56.820 of serving your neighbor, for the definitions of truthfulness and impartiality.

00:53:02.160 And I think that you will be on a much better path to seeking actual justice and actual mercy

00:53:08.320 and actual truth and actual love and actual reconciliation and unity and progress than you will if you

00:53:15.240 believe some of these false narratives that are centered on critical race theory and, quite

00:53:19.680 frankly, the destructive tenets of the Black Lives Matter organization. 0.99

00:53:24.160 All right.

00:53:24.880 That's all I have time for today.

00:53:26.500 I will be back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - February 02, 2021

Ep 362 ｜ Decentering AOC & Reassessing BLM

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