Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 370 ｜ The Shocking Anti-History, Anti-Science Influence on Public Education ｜ Guest： Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson

00:00:00.000 hey guys welcome to relatable happy tuesday i almost forgot what day it was we're in this

00:00:16.920 we're in this crazy time it's bad weather where i am down here in the south and i've had to do

00:00:23.100 all of my recording from home which just it makes things weird like i feel like i'm i don't know

00:00:29.000 i don't know what's going on what day it is we've never had this kind of weather i can't say never

00:00:35.600 but in my lifetime we have never had this kind of weather um dire things happening in a variety of

00:00:41.880 states um in the country where people are lacking power people are lacking heat they're unable to get

00:00:49.920 the resources and the services that they need so please pray for texas pray for louisiana pray for

00:00:55.960 these states that just aren't used to and i guess just aren't prepared for this winter storm there

00:01:00.760 have been people in texas for example who have been out of power for almost 48 hours at this point i

00:01:07.840 mean think about elderly people think about vulnerable people think about those who are sick

00:01:12.140 those who have uh newborn babies or those who have kids with special needs think about all of the

00:01:17.540 people who live by themselves who are unable to go to the grocery store i understand that people up

00:01:23.560 north you're like why aren't you better prepared for this why don't you you know why don't you have

00:01:28.720 all of the supplies that you need to be able to stay inside for several days on end or why don't

00:01:34.160 your roads work and all that stuff those are good questions the fact of the matter is is that

00:01:38.240 we're just not i mean in the south we're just not used to this kind of thing and i do think that

00:01:44.380 there was a lack of preparation from the energy companies and maybe from the government and local

00:01:49.280 government as well unfortunately uh but the fact of the matter is is that a lot of people in texas

00:01:54.500 louisiana and these other southern states that are being hit by this winter storm they do need your

00:01:58.940 prayer and just pray that the power would turn on that the heat would turn on uh especially for

00:02:04.300 vulnerable communities and vulnerable people there are places where you know there are gyms in

00:02:10.280 different locations that are open for people to come and get water come and get food and come and get

00:02:14.580 heat the problem is is that most people can't drive there especially if you're using public

00:02:18.400 transportation and so it's just a big hot mess it's actually a cold mess it's a very cold mess

00:02:23.680 but a hot mess in the other sense for a lot of people down south so please pray for your friends

00:02:30.040 in texas and the surrounding areas pray for the power to turn on for these vulnerable people

00:02:35.920 it's just a disaster and we're actually looking to see um worse weather in the coming days and so for

00:02:44.040 all the people that are up north that are laughing this really isn't a laughing matter for a lot of

00:02:49.900 people and hey other states can't handle the heat the way the southern states can and so i guess it's

00:02:55.720 just our turn to kind of deal with the kind of weather that we are just um that we're just not used to

00:03:01.540 so please keep these areas in your prayers all right today we are going to uh talk to lieutenant

00:03:09.160 governor of north carolina mark robinson about this radical curriculum that has uh now been uh now been

00:03:17.760 pushed through to be able to be implemented in north carolina public schools and it's a radical

00:03:22.900 history curriculum that includes uh the phrase that we talked about so often the concept that we have

00:03:28.860 explained a million times and that is uh critical race theory so this curriculum tells a history of the

00:03:35.240 united states that is not in fact rooted in fact but is rooted in a kind of worldview that sees america

00:03:41.540 and everything in it every system every institution even every interpersonal interaction as um racist

00:03:48.260 specifically against black and brown communities rather than telling uh uh the the the truth about 1.00

00:03:55.700 how the united states yes has absolutely perpetuated a variety of injustices but has also righted those

00:04:03.280 wrongs very valiantly throughout our history it is a very negative and a very dark and a very divisive

00:04:10.320 curriculum that is like i said not actually based in historical fact but is based in a kind of critical

00:04:17.340 race theory ideology that as we know has absolutely no power has no uh no ability whatsoever to bring

00:04:25.520 people together and to end racism but just to develop new forms of racism what a lot of people are calling

00:04:30.560 neoracism and the lieutenant governor mark robinson has been pushing against this curriculum unfortunately

00:04:36.300 it is going to be implemented um in north carolina schools but he's going to give us insight into how

00:04:42.040 parents can push back he's going to talk a little bit more about what this curriculum is and why

00:04:46.560 he opposes it um it's a really interesting conversation and i'm really excited for you guys to hear from him

00:04:53.660 he is a courageous person that i know is going to inspire you guys uh before we get into that interview

00:04:59.060 i also want to bring up dr vody bacham he is a pastor a minister who lives in zambia he is an american he's been

00:05:07.680 on this podcast before i think it's my most watched episode on youtube and my one of my most listened to

00:05:16.980 episodes on the listening side of the podcast as well um and that's just because he is an amazing

00:05:23.000 communicator he's a dynamic and a very clear messenger of the gospel he has spoken such clarity

00:05:30.180 into this crazy cultural time that we live in has so much insight into the umbiblical nature of secular

00:05:37.100 social justice and critical race theory and um he has been an amazing voice on my podcast and in so many

00:05:45.640 other ministries and i know has positively affected through the holy spirit the faith and the lives of

00:05:51.620 so many of you he has a gofundme that is set up because he uh he um is unfortunately he's suffering

00:05:59.880 heart failure i forgot to say that at the top of this explanation but i figured most of you guys

00:06:04.000 know he's experiencing heart failure and he is coming from africa to the united states and he's

00:06:09.620 unfortunately having to pay out of pocket for his procedures and apparently the procedure that he is

00:06:14.560 going to need hopefully he will get in time this is a very dire situation for him um it's probably

00:06:21.060 going to be a million dollars or more and so what's amazing is that if you go to his gofundme page

00:06:27.180 uh for voting bacham right now i'm looking at it one million forty six thousand three hundred and eighty

00:06:33.400 dollars have already been raised for him in just a matter of days this gofundme was created three days

00:06:39.280 and right now the goal is one million two hundred fifty thousand dollars they keep on having to

00:06:46.280 increase the goal not because they just want more money um but because people are giving so generously

00:06:53.040 people are giving so much so many people are giving there's been over ten thousand donors um at this

00:07:00.160 point and because this the medical expenses are going to be so high for what he actually needs for this

00:07:06.340 life-saving procedure that they are continuing to raise the ceiling so if you can give anything go

00:07:12.400 to the gofundme uh page set up for voting bacham i'll actually put it in the description of this podcast

00:07:19.860 and just you know give what you can if you can whether it's five dollars whether it's a hundred dollars

00:07:25.540 some people have given ten thousand dollars um what's beautiful about this is seeing the body of christ

00:07:31.140 rally around someone who needs help and it also shows what amazing things god has done through

00:07:37.740 voting bacham through his books through his sermons and through his ministry and how many christians feel

00:07:43.380 that they have been positively affected and inspired to run after christ more passionately because of the

00:07:51.340 words that god has given voting bacham in the way that god has gifted him with a certain talent to be able

00:07:57.100 to exposit scripture and to be able to explain the gospel and and infuse the light of the gospel

00:08:04.660 into dark places that is what dr vody bacham does so well and that is why he has had more than a million

00:08:11.240 dollars raised for him in three days so praise the lord praise the lord for the body of christ this

00:08:17.220 whole crazy idea that you know christians are just all talk and that's we're not actually willing to do

00:08:23.220 the work i mean first of all that's completely contradicted by the history of the church it's

00:08:27.640 contradicted by every statistic that shows how generously uh christians give and how many

00:08:33.660 organizations christians run um how much churches do for their communities and how how willing we are

00:08:41.580 to help a brother in christ um who is in trouble and so if you can't spare any money or even if you can't

00:08:48.580 please pray for him please pray for dr bacham and um everything that he's going through pray for his

00:08:54.380 family pray for his wife um they have several children and they are homeschooling parents as

00:09:01.260 well they've got adult children but they still got school-age children as well and so there's just a

00:09:05.720 there's a lot going on it's hard to leave your home and your family in um in zambia and then come to

00:09:12.520 the united states and all just hoping that he makes it to the point to where he's able to have this

00:09:17.020 procedure that hopefully will save his life and so they're going through a lot pray for the lord to

00:09:21.800 renew their strength physically spiritually emotionally and for god to preserve his life

00:09:27.760 if that's his will and for god to be glorified and the gospel to be spread through all of this so like

00:09:33.280 i said the gofundme link will be in the uh in the description of this podcast or of this youtube video

00:09:39.800 if you're watching there thank you so much you guys for supporting him all right um before we get into

00:09:46.720 this interview um and then after the interview i'm also going to talk about some of the craziness

00:09:52.280 that's going on um with the public school system as far as the cdc guidance for opening goes and so

00:09:58.220 this will be a kind of short interview and then i'll get into some of the rest of the stuff that's

00:10:02.400 going on without further ado here is lieutenant governor mark robinson

00:10:08.260 lieutenant governor thank you so much for joining me a lot of people have been messaging me emailing me

00:10:18.720 to talk about this north carolina curriculum um that has just been pushed through in north carolina

00:10:24.600 public schools and you have been fighting against that curriculum can you talk about what it is and

00:10:30.140 and why you oppose it well first off let me say thank you for having me and uh sending out

00:10:35.860 prayers and uh wishes of safety to all those in texas i know you're all dealing with some pretty

00:10:40.120 difficult weather down there so send our prayers your way uh well what it is is our state uh the

00:10:45.820 standards for north carolina public schools from k-12 uh my major grievance with these standards is

00:10:52.800 that i think that they uh are very negative in tone and what i mean by that is is this uh you know

00:11:01.080 there are some rumors going around that the gop members don't want to teach about things like

00:11:05.360 slavery and jim crow and we want to try to hide things in america's past let me be clear on something

00:11:10.600 very clear on something as a person who has studied history a great deal i understand it is

00:11:16.740 for us to teach our young people things happen in our nation's history it's essential for us to teach

00:11:24.200 them about slavery and about jim crow and about the fact that we didn't always treat uh women fairly

00:11:29.100 and give them the opportunity to succeed uh at the highest levels and so we have to teach our

00:11:34.840 children about those things about why they happen how they happen but we also have to teach them how

00:11:40.240 uh those things were ultimately uh bought those things were uh bought down how we defeated uh racism

00:11:47.660 sexism slavery jim crow all of those things and um there again is is the crux of my uh exception to

00:11:56.100 these standards i think that the american system of government is exceptional and in every case that

00:12:01.320 i just mentioned we fought back against all those uh institutions using our founding documents using

00:12:07.580 our constitution and using our court of law what i call our exceptional uh american system of government

00:12:13.840 and so we don't think that these standards teach uh that exceptionalism and we think that it's uh

00:12:19.420 teaches that our our system of government government is systemically racist and and we do not agree with

00:12:25.160 that assessment right so your contention and my contention would be as well as is not that it's

00:12:30.820 teaching kids about slavery and jim crow which we believe are parts of history that kids need to learn

00:12:36.120 about but that it doesn't talk about how america actually rectified all of those injustices and those

00:12:41.280 problems it casts america in this um not just a negative light but like you said in a characterization

00:12:49.200 of systemic racism that they claim is still looming today uh what kind of implications do you think

00:12:56.340 this has for students of all different colors and how they think not just of their country but

00:13:01.360 also of themselves i think it's going to further divide us because they're going to be children that

00:13:07.000 are not going to believe these things that are being taught in the classroom they're going to push back

00:13:10.520 against these things it's going to plant some very negative seeds in all in our children's minds

00:13:15.220 what we should be doing in our classroom is teaching them about what unites them and here's

00:13:20.540 what unites our students what unites our students is our founding document our declaration of independence

00:13:27.440 is our constitution our court of law again those are the things that we have always used in this

00:13:34.120 nation to combat bigotry and racism and sexism and and uh and injustice and and those things by and

00:13:40.860 large work to a great extent i mean a fantastic extent those are the things that bring us together

00:13:46.900 and i think if we teach our children about their system of government and how their system of

00:13:52.680 government can help them to succeed in life i think that that will bring our students together

00:13:57.340 but when we talk about this nation and we talk about it in terms of being systemically racist

00:14:02.500 i think that's going to cause further divisions further hatreds and it's just going to continue to

00:14:07.600 degenerate uh in uh our national uh unity yes i agree with that i can't imagine that most parents

00:14:18.320 in north carolina of kids who go to public schools are okay with this kind of curriculum so how did this

00:14:24.780 pass how did this get pushed through well unfortunately it was off the radar of many people in the state

00:14:31.340 uh the state school board uh is very proud of of touting the fact that 7 000 people looked at these

00:14:37.100 standards and it was passed and it was approved by 85 percent of them but on our end in our office we uh

00:14:44.200 we we made people aware of it and uh we put out a a poll so to speak of folks and made them a prize of

00:14:52.520 what was happening in a mere four days we we received uh 30 000 uh responses from people who were

00:15:00.080 against these standards as written and so that just that small uh sample of people across the state

00:15:07.160 shows that this is a very contentious issue that's unsettled and i again i i i'll say this in all in

00:15:14.240 you know i say this in all fairness i think it was very irresponsible to pass these standards

00:15:19.640 knowing that very many people in north carolina are very much against them

00:15:23.080 right and you've gotten a lot of pushback for opposing this i saw that you were even compared

00:15:30.140 to um i think it was like a member of the kkk or you and republicans were can you talk about some of

00:15:37.540 just the the crazy pushback and the and the crazy characterization you've gotten from people

00:15:43.980 who i guess i don't know claim you're some kind of racist or white supremacist for being against this

00:15:49.740 curriculum right um all the the gop members of the state school board were characterized as members

00:15:56.600 of the kukuk clan and here's what's funny about it uh the lieutenant governor myself uh i said a state

00:16:05.840 school board a black man being characterized as a member of the kukuk clan because i disagree

00:16:10.100 with with those on the left uh another member who is a lumby indian who default the kukuk clan in her 0.92

00:16:18.320 hometown being compared to the kukuk clan because she disagrees with the left if you want to talk

00:16:23.400 about systemic problems this is the problem that we have and it also points out uh two other things

00:16:28.760 it all it points out the hypocrisy of the uh the uh the left-leaning media wral who posted the

00:16:34.720 the cockney cartoon uh would would probably lambast anybody else for posting such stuff but they

00:16:41.320 themselves feel confident in doing it and here's the largest issue as we speak about indoctrinating

00:16:48.040 our children in schools we are always challenging about where is the proof that cartoon that

00:16:55.120 characterizes members of the gop as kukuk clansmen and we all know that history that cartoon was drawn

00:17:02.720 by an eighth grade social studies teacher who teaches eighth grade social studies right here in north

00:17:08.060 there's your indoctrination so i think the pushback that you and the gop have gotten being compared to

00:17:14.440 the kkk being called bigots is probably a big reason why parents sometimes are scared to speak

00:17:20.000 out about this stuff because they don't want to be characterized in that way and they don't want

00:17:24.340 their kids to possibly be punished for them speaking up and opposing this kind of curriculum what

00:17:30.320 encouragement or advice do you have for parents who are either in north carolina or they're in another

00:17:35.620 state where they see this kind of stuff coming down the pipeline or it's already here how how do they

00:17:41.100 push back against this stuff who do they call what do they do well i can tell you this the number one

00:17:46.700 thing that we need to understand is that this is this is not a fight that we can lay back on our laurels

00:17:51.920 and and just say well i'm afraid of the consequences if i speak out what we really need to think about is

00:17:58.880 the consequences if we don't speak out the consequences for our children the consequences for our society

00:18:05.340 the consequences for our state and nation that's the consequences that we need to think about

00:18:09.620 we need to think about all those folks that came before us that spoke up against things that weren't

00:18:15.080 right including some of the uh including things like jim crow and slavery who are willing to sacrifice

00:18:20.500 to make sure the right thing is done we're in that position now and we need to make sure that we're not

00:18:25.580 afraid to stand up for our children and for our communities and make sure that the right thing is done

00:18:30.480 in education um as far as uh as as far as the education system itself i think what we really

00:18:40.300 need to do and i've said this several times and i don't say this as a person who's pointing fingers

00:18:45.260 at uh at the public i say this to myself as a person who is a citizen governor as a north carolina

00:18:52.640 citizen well if we want to change education what we need to do is this we need to make sure

00:18:56.940 that uh the school board meeting on monday night is as packed as the football game on friday night

00:19:03.860 we need to put the focus back on education in our public schools and we need parents and we need

00:19:09.960 uh citizens of all of all all across the board to get involved in this process because what's being

00:19:15.020 taught in our public schools today will become uh they those folks will become the policy makers of

00:19:20.720 tomorrow and we can already see some of the dreadful dreadful effects of that the highest levels of

00:19:25.560 government now and so we need to get involved in this issue and right this ship before it's too late 0.85

00:19:30.840 absolutely and not just the policy makers but also the activists and some of the people that we've seen

00:19:36.720 take to the streets and cities across our country no doubt have kind of been indoctrinated with this

00:19:42.360 idea that america is this irrevocably bad and horrible bad force uh bad influence not just here but

00:19:50.560 also abroad and that creates like you said a kind of division a kind of hatred a kind of resentment

00:19:56.620 that then unfortunately creates some of the unrest and the chaos that we continue to see

00:20:03.040 um so thank you so much thank you for fighting against it and for giving people who have concerns about

00:20:10.260 this curriculum a voice i know courage begets courage and you've shown a lot of courage so thank you

00:20:15.200 so much for that uh can you tell people how they can follow you how they can uh support you or just

00:20:22.040 kind of watch uh what you're doing in north carolina uh you can find us on social media on facebook mark

00:20:28.300 robinson uh you can also follow me on twitter uh mark robinson nc uh and also uh i i failed to mention

00:20:36.440 this but our office is going to be a resource for those parents who feel like they need to report

00:20:41.840 incidents uh of uh indoctrination in the classroom and we're going to make that available here

00:20:48.040 shortly but uh we want to stand up and fight this as much as possible and we want to lead the charge

00:20:52.940 on it so uh be on the lookout for that as well thank you so much lieutenant governor thank you so much

00:20:58.960 for having me okay so that's one bit of craziness that's going on in the public school system at least

00:21:13.040 north carolina and look i get a lot of messages from people saying that's not going to happen in

00:21:19.180 my state that's not going to happen in my school you say i'm in a southern state i'm in a conservative

00:21:23.280 area i know all of you know my kids public school teachers i know the administrators i know the

00:21:28.960 people on the school board we live in such a conservative christian area that that kind of

00:21:33.420 thing is never going to happen um well you got another thing coming if you think that the

00:21:38.940 orchestrators and the organizers of this kind of curriculum just are going to leave your area

00:21:44.760 untouched if you don't think that they are raising up activists in your community and your

00:21:50.120 neighborhood right now to be able to push through this kind of stuff and if you don't think the

00:21:54.820 people around you um are content with just kind of allowing this stuff to flourish and be pushed

00:22:00.880 through you've got another thing coming the time is coming gone for us to be naive as parents

00:22:05.680 understand this is coming to a public school near you and it's time for you to pay attention now

00:22:11.220 you guys know my stance on public school i think that if there is any possible way for you as a

00:22:16.120 christian parent to pull your kid out of public school and to uh go to a christian school go to

00:22:22.340 a classical christian school homeschool do some kind of hybrid option even if you can go to a

00:22:28.160 charter school i think that's typically better than the school that's just assigned to you according

00:22:32.980 to your zip code i think that you should do that i absolutely push for that because i think even though

00:22:38.580 there are so many wonderful public school teachers and i'm so thankful for that uh the system as a whole

00:22:44.900 is corrupt and that does not mean that every private school is amazing every christian school

00:22:49.680 is perfect or that every single parent is a wonderful homeschool teacher but parents absolutely

00:22:56.840 uh have the best interest in their of their child in mind more than these kind of faceless nameless 1.00

00:23:04.020 uh bureaucracies do the public school system has a goal to make your child and i'm speaking in

00:23:10.140 generalities i know this is not true of everyone in the public school system

00:23:13.160 to make your child a certain way to make them think a certain way to push them in a particular

00:23:19.100 moral direction remember secularism is not a neutral worldview it comes with its own rules it comes with

00:23:25.440 its own uh parameters it comes with its own definitions and secularism and christianity are at

00:23:32.420 odds with each other like if your child is going to a public school it's not like they're just getting

00:23:36.580 a neutral education devoid of any moral leanings whatsoever uh no it's not and it's not just about

00:23:43.340 what your child may be learning in the way of indoctrination maybe you do live in a conservative

00:23:47.740 area and your child isn't learning um a historical uh curriculum about the country's history but if you

00:23:56.960 can help it don't don't you want to give your child an education in which everything is rooted in a

00:24:03.280 biblical worldview like everything is rooted in the fundamental idea that god created the heavens and

00:24:08.120 the earth and therefore he says what's right and what's wrong what is and what isn't do you really

00:24:12.600 want to compete with the worldview that your child is uh learning for eight hours a day every night when

00:24:18.300 they get home and are you making an effort to compete with that worldview vody bacham our friend

00:24:23.060 vody bacham says if you send your kids to to caesar don't be surprised when they come back roman

00:24:28.640 and you know we've talked about several times that sending your kids to private school or homeschooling

00:24:33.240 your kids does not guarantee that they will be these perfect christians and sending them to public

00:24:37.080 school doesn't mean that they're going to end up being heathens but of course we do everything that we

00:24:42.220 can to try to steer our children in the right direction and to give them uh the proper and the

00:24:49.220 healthy and the loving and the kind and the and the biblical worldview that god and his word uh provides

00:24:55.280 for us and that is getting increasingly difficult unfortunately in the public school system and so

00:25:01.380 don't be naive to think that this is not coming for you but for those of you who you don't have the

00:25:07.740 option to get out of public school or you just care about what kids in public school are actually

00:25:12.680 learning like you just care about the kinds of ideas that are influencing kids because you know that

00:25:17.560 is they're the next future of adults they're the next future of leaders you should still be getting

00:25:22.340 involved and understand what's going on um uh in the public schools in your area and you should

00:25:27.900 absolutely have a say in that because whether or not you send your kids to public school you're still

00:25:31.700 paying for that public school you're still paying for the salaries of those teachers and those

00:25:35.780 administrators your tax dollars are still going to this teachers unions if you have teachers unions

00:25:41.440 in your area and if they're not there um you know teachers associations pretty much function in the

00:25:46.520 same way i have lots and lots of episodes on teachers unions and the facts about the public

00:25:52.200 school and public school funding and i get reviews from people all the time who are very upset about

00:25:57.260 my stance on all of this who think i'm like anti public school teacher which of course is not true

00:26:04.320 at all um but you know i don't care i don't care i know that there are people who are angry about my

00:26:10.180 stance on that but the fact of the matter is is that i've done a lot of research i've talked to a lot

00:26:14.480 of people about what's going on and a lot of people are unfortunately naive about our public

00:26:19.940 education system but my goal is to make sure that you are not um and that we know as much as possible

00:26:27.220 and we can push back on what is wrong as much as possible and try to make things better all right

00:26:33.300 speaking of all of that speaking of teachers unions let's talk about for just a few minutes uh cdc's new

00:26:40.720 reopening guidance that is actually going to keep public schools closed in the fall this is extremely

00:26:47.260 disappointing for a lot of people for kids who have been stuck inside for the past year because

00:26:53.180 their public school isn't open or unfortunately there are some parents who have decided that they're

00:26:58.380 going to keep their kids home for a year and yes i believe that it is absolutely your choice whether or

00:27:03.120 not you want your kid to go to in-person learning and i do understand the concern the fact of the matter

00:27:08.520 is is that this is detrimental for kids it's detrimental for their mental health kids need in-person

00:27:14.660 instruction uh they need some kind of normalcy they need that routine they need that social

00:27:20.580 interaction um they need the kind of challenge parameters and scheduling um and sometimes rely on the

00:27:28.500 meals and the welfare checks that are provided to them through public education and so we are doing

00:27:34.080 a huge disservice to children by keeping schools closed indefinitely against the science the cdc

00:27:40.880 the aap uh all the pediatricians that were on msnbc over the summer president trump a variety of leaders

00:27:47.940 and experts said it is more important for kids to be in school than it is for them to stay home from

00:27:53.380 school and to possibly avoid a virus that they will almost certainly survive and have no serious symptoms

00:28:00.860 from but the cdc has released new guidance that will keep schools closed most schools closed

00:28:08.700 in the fall um this is according to reason.com quote the cdc science-based reopening in quotes

00:28:15.280 guidance includes five key considerations presented in order of emphasis number one

00:28:20.620 mask wearing now on this you might remember do you remember just a few months ago when we were told

00:28:26.580 that kids below the age of 10 did not need to be wearing masks of course we were all told in the

00:28:32.420 beginning that we weren't supposed to be wearing masks and then it didn't just go from that to a

00:28:37.580 suggestion it came from it went from that to absolutely dogmatic if you do not wear a mask

00:28:42.380 you are a murderer um and then it went to yeah kids as young as two need to be wearing a mask

00:28:49.740 kids as young as two typically don't even aren't even supposed to have pillows and blankets in their 0.99

00:28:54.280 crib for fear of suffocation but we're just supposed to have them wear a mask over their face even

00:28:59.460 though the science shows that most kids are not transmitting the virus and most of them aren't even

00:29:04.140 getting the virus but we are supposed to just kind of go along to get along with all of this so

00:29:09.900 number one is mask wearing in schools the cdc says two social distancing of six feet three hand

00:29:16.020 washing for cleaning five contact tracing uh director rochelle walensky in a conference call

00:29:22.660 emphasized quote prioritizing the first two which means that in every school including ones that are

00:29:26.860 already open using less stringent standards and the cdc is saying there should be student distancing

00:29:31.960 of at least six feet accomplished if need be by cohorting or potting of students um let me let me

00:29:41.060 just keep on reading this article uh so on the social distancing part this article says in many

00:29:47.880 school settings six feet between students is not feasible without drastically limiting the number of

00:29:51.780 students the american academy of pediatrics warned last june some countries have been able to

00:29:57.380 successfully reopen schools after first controlling community widespread of sars covid 2 after uh using

00:30:04.200 three feet of distance between students without increases in community speed schools should weigh

00:30:09.140 the benefits of strict adherence to a six feet spacing rule between students with a potential downside

00:30:13.900 if remote learning is the only alternative two-thirds of the 175 pediatric disease specialists polled by the

00:30:21.300 new york times just this week said that making schools hybrid the full fulfilled distancing requirements is

00:30:27.320 a bad idea and then the writer of this article matt welch kind of puts his opinion on it and says this

00:30:33.760 the federal government is not in charge of local schools true uh institutions especially in the private sector

00:30:40.100 that are already open five days a week are not likely to ratchet back as a result of today's guidance but

00:30:45.100 the six feet rule will likely have an outsized influence particularly in democratic controlled big city public

00:30:51.040 schools that have been disproportionately shuttered why because teachers unions say so that's why

00:30:56.880 and he's right about that that might be his editorializing but it is absolutely true and by the way the

00:31:03.340 students that are going to be disproportionately affected by this because they're in mostly democratic controlled

00:31:09.340 cities and democrats are controlled by the teachers unions because they're funded by the teachers union

00:31:14.420 these are disproportionately poor students and disproportionately black and brown students so in a day that we're

00:31:19.800 talking about equity in a day that we're talking about um the importance of equality and giving everyone the same

00:31:25.500 opportunities which is not the same thing as equity as we've talked about many times before uh in a day that

00:31:30.920 we're talking so much about disparities we are purposely pushing forward policies and restrictions that are going

00:31:37.100 to disproportionately and have disproportionately negatively affected black and brown american students and we're

00:31:44.040 supposed to sit back and say that's okay because the teachers unions say so all right even the

00:31:49.140 washington post in their opinion section is pushing back against uh this craziness um the fact of the

00:31:55.240 matter is is that this is not guided by the science this is guided by the politics of the teachers unions and we'll

00:32:02.140 prove that in just uh one second so uh the washington post uh says this transmission within schools can be

00:32:10.660 kept low regardless of community spread so long as good mitigation measures are in place it's also clear that

00:32:16.620 community spread is not an indicator within school transmission the cdc itself released a study

00:32:21.640 showing this it also recently wrote that there is little evidence that schools have contributed

00:32:25.520 meaningfully to community transmission so why so why tie reopening schools to community spread because of

00:32:34.300 course the public uh the public teachers unions they want to use uh they want to be able to hold the

00:32:40.400 kids hostage in order to get the power to get the money to get the funding to get the other

00:32:45.820 political priorities they want um it has nothing to do with the well-being of kids it really doesn't

00:32:51.120 have to do with the well-being of teachers uh yes i do think there are some teachers who are taking

00:32:55.600 advantage of this who want to work as little as possible and still get paid with their taxpayer dollars

00:33:00.400 but for the most part i don't think that this is actually the desire of most public school teachers

00:33:04.580 i think it's the desire of these public unions that want to hold your kids hostage

00:33:08.480 so that they can use them as leverage to be able to get the political power that they want uh the

00:33:14.720 washington post writers lamented that while the cdc does require masks in schools they did not specify

00:33:19.320 to use high efficiency masks or uh to double mask which i think i can't even believe we're having a

00:33:26.840 conversation about two masks if we should wear two masks we should probably wear five masks i mean isn't

00:33:33.200 that just common sense don't we just continue to layer the masks do we just put a plastic bag over

00:33:37.800 our heads and breathe deeply is that what we're supposed to be doing that's probably going to be

00:33:41.380 the guidance that we achieve uh or that we are given next um okay i want to play a little bit

00:33:47.900 of this uh interview with jake tapper so jake tapper you guys know he's a host on cnn

00:33:53.720 um i think sometimes he is incredibly fair and i appreciate how he is willing sometimes to criticize

00:34:00.520 both sides i think other times like when it had to do with the russian collusion investigation that

00:34:06.360 he wasn't entirely fair i think he can also be most of the time i think that he is partisan but

00:34:12.040 he's probably one of the most if not the most fair hosts uh reporters on cnn um and so he grilled

00:34:21.720 the cdc director rochelle walensky over this is according to the daily wire over why the biden

00:34:27.620 administration is struggling to get schools fully reopened across the country after top experts have

00:34:31.800 repeatedly said that they are safe to reopen walensky has previously said quote school should

00:34:37.400 be the last thing to close and the first thing to open walensky uh then stated that quote in order

00:34:43.520 for schools to fully reopen uh that there needed to be universal masking inside schools and a strict

00:34:49.500 six feet of social distancing within the classroom um and let me let me play a little bit of this

00:34:57.060 but what's the science because you have said there's you know i mean not just you but dr fauci

00:35:04.040 others have been saying for months that the school should be open as long as there's masking and and

00:35:09.620 uh cleansing and uh social distancing everything that we talked about if a school's doing that i

00:35:15.420 understand if the if there's a mask violation that's a problem but if a school's doing that i mean the

00:35:21.180 the damage as i don't need to tell you on kids the isolation the psychological damage the the

00:35:27.080 educational loss of a year for many kids not to mention the thousands of kids who are just slipping

00:35:32.820 through the cracks i mean it it's uh it's hard to even calculate um and there are a lot of people

00:35:40.020 out there watching who think like i thought the science said we should open the schools as long as

00:35:45.760 that we take those safety steps we're taking the safety steps and we're not opening the schools

00:35:49.960 all right so good for jake tapper good for jake tapper for pushing back uh he said he was very

00:35:55.040 dispirited uh by this conversation because there's so much lack of consistency and there is a lack of

00:36:01.140 following the actual science like we've talked about the scientism versus the science that was an

00:36:06.340 episode that we got a lot of good feedback on we'll put the link to that episode uh in this

00:36:11.680 description the difference in actual science versus scientism and how it seems that most of our

00:36:16.620 leaders have been governed by scientism for the past year at the expense of lives and of course

00:36:20.580 the well-being of children um here's something else that's troubling the cdc director actually

00:36:25.820 admitted in a press conference that it's not science that affects the guidance on opening schools or at

00:36:31.580 least not just science uh so this is according to the daily wire again cdc director dr rochelle

00:36:37.700 walensky said quote the return to in-person learning at schools must be based on a thorough

00:36:43.320 review of what the science tells us but also that direct changes to the cdc guidance on opening schools

00:36:49.720 were made as a result of engaging with many education and public health partners to hear

00:36:53.460 firsthand from parents and teachers directly about their experiences and concerns she said bluntly

00:36:57.720 these sessions were so informative and direct changes to the guidance were made as a result of

00:37:04.100 them so the reason why this is troubling is because the cdc is not supposed to be a political arm they're

00:37:09.180 not politicians that are supposed to be listening to people and basing their findings based on the

00:37:13.980 opinions of public teachers unions and a handful of parents they're supposed to be basing their findings

00:37:18.760 on what the science not the scientism and not public opinion but what the science actually says

00:37:24.240 they publish the science and then everyone else gets to form their own opinions the public schools and

00:37:29.600 the parents they get to form their own opinions based on the objective facts of what the science

00:37:35.040 says but the cdc is not objective when it comes to this kind of stuff because they have become a

00:37:41.400 political bureaucratic body have probably been for a long time but again this is all at the expense of

00:37:47.760 kids and even if you allow schools to open and all kids go back to school putting them in these little

00:37:54.420 glass or plastic boxes i'm saying that they can't be within six feet of their friends like they can't

00:38:00.660 give hugs they can't give high fives they can't play the games that they're used to playing they can't

00:38:05.280 have the social interaction that they are used to having maybe that is a step forward like maybe that's a

00:38:11.780 step up from these kids being stuck at home all day i certainly think it is for kids who are impoverished

00:38:17.460 who need uh need school for food um and who uh need a refuge from abusive parents or something like

00:38:27.020 that i certainly think that's an improvement for them but for a lot of students this is still going

00:38:31.200 to be very psychologically damaging this isn't normal and from what the science actually tells us

00:38:36.780 and has been telling us for months it's also not necessary it's also not necessary um this is

00:38:43.380 to try to assuage in some cases the irrational fears of the teachers who quite frankly some of

00:38:50.720 them some of them don't want to go back to school and in some cases unfortunately teachers um

00:38:58.040 teachers are saying that even when they get vaccinated they don't want to go back to school

00:39:03.780 again that is not indicative of all or i think even most public school teachers but it is indicative of

00:39:09.800 a few and the well-being of children is not even thought about it's not even considered as we've

00:39:14.960 talked about before kids are continually the victims of progressive social experiments from

00:39:21.320 gender identity experimentation on young kids uh to abortion to uh school closings we don't even

00:39:31.480 think about the psychological and the emotional the mental effect that this has on children and

00:39:37.400 unfortunately we have seen self-harm and suicide rates and depression rates and anxiety rates among

00:39:42.840 kids skyrocket we've seen them fall behind academically in a way that they'll probably never be able to

00:39:48.220 catch up so again we've been talking about disparities we've been talking about giving people all the

00:39:53.500 opportunities in the world especially when it comes to categorizing people along racial lines and all

00:39:59.500 we're doing is creating further disparity especially between the rich and the poor because the rich

00:40:04.580 already have school choice it's called having money anyone who can afford it anyone who has the option

00:40:09.600 is going to pull their kid out of school so their kid doesn't fall behind they're going to homeschool

00:40:13.800 they're going to do pods they're going to send their kids to private school whatever you're just creating

00:40:19.300 more gaps in success uh between private school kids and homeschool kids and public school kids

00:40:26.300 and so all these people who say that they care about social justice and care about equity which means

00:40:32.320 uh forcing people into the same outcomes which is not fairness at all is actually a form of tyranny

00:40:37.540 um who say that they care about equality who say that they care about the least of these

00:40:42.420 you are following unscientific scientism um by the tyrannical control of the teachers unions

00:40:50.500 who have influenced the cdc at the expense of the very vulnerable and least of these people that you

00:40:57.960 claim to be fighting for no no no no no i'm just not for it parents understand what's going on

00:41:05.620 understand what's going on at your public school understand the why behind all of this understand

00:41:11.080 that it is uh it's not science that's that's guiding this um there was a tweet that also uh

00:41:19.820 that also pointed out that lobbying groups are also responsible for some of the changes to the cdc

00:41:25.680 guidelines the cdc guidelines that said yes open schools to actually we have to do all of these

00:41:31.220 things before we can open schools which makes it impossible for some people to even open in the fall

00:41:37.280 um and so uh they quote walensky the cdc director like i said saying that an understanding of the lived

00:41:45.260 experiences and the personal perspectives of a lot of teachers and school staff that influenced their

00:41:52.000 findings findings in their direction um direct changes to the guidance were made as a result of

00:41:58.160 these conversations and then she says i want to be careful to assume that once we have vaccination

00:42:03.080 that we aren't going to need to continue at least some of these mitigation strategies over some period

00:42:07.820 of time and so it may very well be that some combination of the mitigation strategies that we

00:42:13.320 have we will need to be doing for some period of time she also says that they have engaged with

00:42:18.860 civil rights groups um and other quote stakeholders in order to uh give their guidance so understand

00:42:26.960 there's a lot of politics there's a lot of opinion going into these so-called scientific uh findings

00:42:33.240 and it's just tragic it's tragic what we're doing to our kids not just when it comes to these

00:42:38.640 restrictions but also when it comes to the curriculum that they're learning and i have more to say about

00:42:43.380 that because there's more crazy curriculum that's coming through in places like california and oregon

00:42:48.180 that i think that we need to understand um and so we'll talk about that um we'll talk about that

00:42:54.000 maybe some point this week or later in the week um and so that's all that's all we have today uh

00:43:02.100 i've heard your feedback i've been asking on uh instagram what you guys want to hear it sounds like you

00:43:10.720 guys honestly are most interested in kind of what's going on in the church you guys ask me about a lot of

00:43:17.140 pastors a lot of authors you asked me about a lot of subjects like deconstructing your faith

00:43:22.720 or the new apostolic reformation and different movements inside the church you guys want to know

00:43:29.920 about education you guys want to know about parenting you guys kind of want to know about these

00:43:34.680 um big more like evergreen topics it sounds like we're kind of exhausted with the day-to-day news which i

00:43:41.780 completely understand and so i will try to accommodate that as much as possible but thank

00:43:47.020 you guys so much for your feedback thank you guys for listening thank you guys for listening to

00:43:50.740 watching four days a week and um for those of you who want this to be five days a week or want this

00:43:56.880 to be a two-hour long podcast every day god bless you that's not going to happen anytime soon

00:44:01.400 go back and listen to older episodes we've got a lot of older episodes that are still

00:44:05.300 relevant today if you haven't listened to all of them all right thank you guys so much i'll see

00:44:09.300 you guys back here tomorrow

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