Ep 38 ｜ Before Believing Kavanaugh's Accuser
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In this episode of Relatable, host Ali Stuckey talks about the newly released letter from Sen. Dianne Feinstein regarding a sexual assault allegation against Brett M. Kavanaugh, why she released it, and why she waited so long to speak publicly about it.
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What's up, guys? It's Tuesday. Welcome to Relatable. I am your host, Ali Stuckey. This
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midst of another blessed news cycle. Today, we are going to talk about Brett M. Kavanaugh,
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the recent and more specific sexual assault allegations that have been leveled against him,
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what it all means. And then we're going to kind of talk about in general, in the broader sense,
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this idea of unconditionally, quote, believing the woman or believing the victim. I wrote a piece
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for Town Hall that came out yesterday called Before Believing Kavanaugh's Accuser that outlined
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all of the questions that I still have about this entire scenario that allegedly played out.
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I encourage you to go to townhall.com and read and share that. It's basically just articulating
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what I'm about to say on this podcast. So let me give you a little bit of a recap just in case you
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haven't been paying attention to all of this. And if you haven't, I don't really blame you. It's been
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stupid, dramatic theater for the past few weeks. So I'll just let you know what's been happening.
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Last week, I believe it was Senator Feinstein from California. She's a Democrat.
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She released a letter in which she vaguely alluded to a sexual assault allegation against Kavanaugh.
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She said someone came to her with this story and that it's being looked into. Of course,
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the first reaction by most people was, wait, what? Why release something like this without
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being willing to talk about the facts of the case or any specifics whatsoever? And the conclusion that
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a lot of people came to, especially a lot of people on the right, including me,
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is that, well, the only reason Feinstein would release something like this, someone who has been
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adamantly opposed to Kavanaugh from the beginning, is to cause outrage about something, to cause outrage
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about something that may or may not have happened. And honestly, because Feinstein went about it in this
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way with all of this vagary, people just automatically assumed that it was a political stunt and that it
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wasn't true. And there are further reasons that people believed that and still believe that Senator Feinstein
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reportedly received the story from this sexual assault accuser in July. Yet she waited until only recently when
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things were really heating up in the confirmation process. And when she did, she didn't reveal any details
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whatsoever, just that it, whatever it actually is, happened. And at the time, I thought, like I said,
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okay, nothing is ever going to come out of this. Nothing specific. This was just put out there to
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make people mad and to put pressure on certain Republican senators to not confirm him. Because
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anything involving a hint of sexual misconduct at this point in our history is enough to end someone's
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career. I thought that they were just going to use this as kind of the straw to break Senator Murkowski
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or Senator Collins back to get them to pull their support from Kavanaugh. Murkowski and Collins are two
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Republican senators that often go to the left. They're easy victims for Democrats' ploys. So that's
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what I thought. I tweeted that. I did an entire video for CRTV on that saying that these vague accusations
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probably aren't real and Democrats don't really care if they're real. So some of that is still true,
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but there's some nuance to it now that this Washington Post piece has come out. So it was
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published on Sunday in which the accuser identified herself and told her story to this Washington Post
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journalist. Her name is Christine Blasey Ford, and she is a professor in California. She contacted the
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post after Senator Feinstein released the letter because she noticed that a lot of inaccuracies
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were circulating regarding her story, and she wanted to set the record straight. She actually
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said that she had hoped that her story would remain confidential, would be kept a secret when she sent
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it to Feinstein. But Feinstein, of course, decided not to fulfill those wishes. Wonder why? So now this
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woman felt the need to come forward and tell her story. She claims that when she was in high school,
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more than 30 years ago, early 1980s, Kavanaugh brought her into a room at a party when they
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were 17, while his friend Mark Judge watched the door and Brett Kavanaugh forced himself on her,
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groped her, tried to take her clothes off. When she tried to scream, she says that he covered her
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mouth. Apparently, Mark Judge then jumped on top of them and she was able to escape and then lock
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herself in a bathroom. She said that she didn't talk about this until she was in couples,
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therapy with her husband in 2012. And she said that she hadn't really realized that this was a
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traumatic incident for her. When Kavanaugh was nominated, she reached out to Feinstein.
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Like I said, she claims she wanted her story to remain confidential. But I mean, I'm really not sure
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what she thought Feinstein was going to do with this information. Obviously, she wanted it to affect
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what happened to Kavanaugh. And the only way that was going to happen was if people actually heard
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about it. But I mean, I guess it's kind of besides the point. So she she makes these claims, which does
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give more credence to the story than Feinstein's original letter, which kind of seemed like a
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political stunt. But there are still some really serious aspects of this that should honestly give
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us pause. Let me say first, though, that I want to believe this woman. I do. I want to believe that
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there aren't sick, evil people out there who would make up lies like this in order to ruin someone's
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entire life and career. And if this did happen, I actually believe that she didn't tell anyone until
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2012. I think that's probably kind of normal. She was probably like, well, we were all drunk.
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Uh, I shouldn't have been in that room, whatever. And she probably brushed it off as something that
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she would really just like to forget. I don't think the fact that she never told anyone works
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against her necessarily. And if this did happen, I feel badly for her. No, she wasn't actually raped
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or hurt. But I can totally see why this was a really frightening, really scary thing that that scarred
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her probably. Um, she said in the Washington Post piece that she thought he was going to inadvertently
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kill her, which is really disturbing. Uh, that's something that would haunt you. So if this did
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happen, I am sorry for her. I really am. And the immorality of sexual assault shouldn't be brushed
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under the rug. So I never want to seem like that's what I'm trying to do. Um, but there are still
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significant butts here. Uh, we just can't take this at face value considering the circumstances
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under which this story came out. Uh, Democrats have already shown a severe aversion to facts
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during this confirmation process. Uh, for example, Kamala Harris claimed that Kavanaugh opposed birth
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control, a myth that has been completely debunked by every news outlet on both sides of the aisle.
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Uh, Cory Booker, AKA Spartacus, uh, claims to have broken Senate rules to release documents on Kavanaugh.
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And he actually didn't break any rules in the documents showed nothing already read to you.
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Uh, the women's March email that claimed all of these falsities about him. It's all been crazy
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political theater. Uh, their questioning has had nothing to do whatsoever with the constitution,
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which he is being nominated to defend, uh, but rather his failure to align with the leftist agenda
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agenda. And it's really not about Kavanaugh at all. It's about fanning outrage against Republicans
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before the midterms. Uh, this is all fuel for the anti-Trump resistance and has nothing to do
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with actually testing Kavanaugh's competence for the Supreme court. So in light of all of this
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political theater, in light of the false claims Democrats have already made in light of the
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desperation they have demonstrated to try to stop or hinder this confirmation, you have to of course,
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wonder if this is just another smear attempts. Uh, they've accused him of all kinds of ridiculous,
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untrue things, tried to paint him as a racist, have said that he is going to set women back to
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take away our rights. And all of these attempts have failed because in the hundreds of thousands
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of documents Democrats have sifted through and all of the opinions about Kavanaugh supplied by
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people who have worked with him and have known him for decades on both sides of the political
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spectrum, there has not been a negative untoward thing found out about him. So you just have to
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wonder if you're being honest, if this is just another evil political attack, their kind of
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last ditch effort. Plus Ford herself is apparently a leftist who donates to Democrat political campaigns
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and her legal advisor is also a Democrat who has expressed antipathy towards people who work for
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Donald Trump. Uh, she also took Bill Clinton's side in the Paula Jones case. Uh, so we kind of know
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where she stands on all of this. There are a lot of politics going on here that makes it
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very wise, very important for us to be taking a step back and asking questions. Uh, and there are real
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objective reasons to doubt the validity of her claims, even beyond the fact that Democrats are
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using her for political gain. Uh, one, we don't have any corroborating witnesses or evidence. Uh, Mark
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judge, the guy she claimed was there during the assault, uh, told the weekly standard of that
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nothing like that ever happened, that he had never seen Brett Kavanaugh behave that way to Kavanaugh
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himself has rejected the claims, uh, saying that he categorically denies it, that he did not do this
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in high school or any time. Uh, three countless people have come out in support of Kavanaugh's
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integrity and character. Specifically 65 women signed a letter sent to the Senate judiciary committee last
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week stating that in the 35 years they've known him, he has only treated everyone they know with
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respect and decency and specifically that he has always treated women with respect. Um, these women,
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by the way, who signed this letter are not all Republicans. They have, as far as we can tell,
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no ulterior motive, uh, to support Kavanaugh besides truly wanting people to know that he is a good,
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trustworthy person. Um, also, and I know this is the kind of controversial question to ask, but
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we have to wonder, do we hold people accountable for the isolated sins that occurred or that they
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committed when they were 17 years old, particularly drunken, isolated sins. Now, look, if this did happen,
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it was bad. If that's a moral, that is wrong, terrible. And Kavanaugh owes her an apology. He should
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have done it sooner. Um, I do not chalk up this kind of thing to, Oh, you know, that's just boys
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being boys. Uh, that's just what they do. There are plenty of teenage boys that don't assault women.
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Uh, but the fact that this may have happened when he was 17 and drunk. And as far as we know,
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only happened once probably speaks more to his immaturity at the time than it does to his incompetence
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or lack of character. Now, uh, it is quite the precedent to set that we are all to be held accountable
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for the mistakes that we made when we were 17, before our frontal lobes were fully developed.
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Like, you know, that our brains don't actually develop fully until we're 25, right? Like people
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do stupid, stupid things when they're teenagers. That's why insurance is so expensive for teenagers
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who drive. And, and even though being young does not negate the wrongness of this, I'm just not sure
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that this should disqualify Kavanaugh, uh, from the Supreme courts. Uh, because in every way that
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we've seen, he is qualified for this. Now, if big, if this was a pattern of behavior, uh, if this happened
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on multiple occasions, if he is a predator, then that is a different story. In my opinion, uh, that
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might mean that this is the kind of guy he was in maybe deep down is because that means it wasn't
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some spur of the moment out of character thing. It was something he consistently planned and thought
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about. And that to me would be disqualifying because that indicates this kind of whole other
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level of, uh, depravity and lack of discernment. Plus if that were the case, if this was something
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he did on multiple occasions or on a regular basis, if he is a serial predator, that would also make him
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a sociopath because he has apparently been able to convince everyone in his life that he's this
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good upstanding guy. Dozens of colleagues, friends, peers, students have come forward
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vouching for his character. He of course has a wife and daughters. He's a basketball coach for his
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daughter's basketball team. Uh, every record and opinion on the guy that we have says that he is
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straight laced and fair minded. Uh, so Kavanaugh would have had to be very good at hiding his pattern
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of predation if that were the case, which would make him sociopathic, which of course would
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disqualify him from sitting on the Supreme court. But that that's just not likely. It's just not.
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He has been working in DC for years for his entire career. Almost. Uh, he worked on Ken Starr's
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investigation into Bill Clinton, uh, and this never came out in the swamp that is DC, especially in
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anything involving the Clintons. Secrets like this just don't stay secrets for very long. They just
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don't. So really the choices are these Kavanaugh as a predator and a sociopath who has manipulated
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everyone in his life into believing that he's decent or B he was a drunk teenager who did something
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that he shouldn't have or C he is an innocent man being falsely accused by partisan hacks. Uh,
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like we have already established, the first one is really hard to believe. Uh, he's been in the game
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for too long for nothing like this to ever have come up. Uh, number two is very possible, but we still
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just, we just don't know, um, whether or not that should really be disqualifying. And number three,
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given our current information is probable, uh, this could very well be a political stunt by
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Democrats. Democrats know that even if this confirmation goes through, which it probably
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still will, that this is going to cause a lot of outrage and it's going to help them come. It's
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going to help them come November, come the midterms because Republicans are going to be
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the misogynist sick bigots who don't believe women who actually confirmed and accused sexual
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assault her onto the Supreme court. Uh, it's a very clever line of attack and I trust the Democrats
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are very, very much looking forward to using it. Um, and that's really the thing here,
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whether or not this story is true, Democrats do not care about Ford. They don't, they do not care
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about this alleged victim. Uh, even if this did happen and caused her true trauma, Democrats do not
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care about that. They do not care about the validity of her account. They do not even care
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about Kavanaugh's true character. They care about using this as a weapon to fight Republicans. That
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is it. Democrats are the ones who are politicizing these allegations who are capitalizing on the
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supposed pain of Kavanaugh's accuser who have turned this whole thing into a partisan charade so that no one
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believes Ford's allegations. So if there are doubts surrounding this story, Democrats are to blame.
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They have cried wolf a dozen times during this process alone. And now they're accusing us of
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hating women for not fully believing them this time around. And if this story is true, that is,
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that's really too bad for Ford. If this really happened to her, now she has to deal with it publicly and
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politically, but she decided to tell her story only when politics were at stake. That alone doesn't
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necessarily make it untrue, but it adds flavor to her story that makes it seem less plausible and more
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political. She chose this timing and these are the natural repercussions of that. Um, like I said,
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I actually want to believe her, uh, despite wanting Kavanaugh confirmed because I don't,
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I don't like the idea that someone would make up a story like this and ruin someone's entire life,
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um, based on some unsubstantiated allegation. And I know that happens in the criminal justice system
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too. I know that I don't like the idea of living in that kind of world. I want to think that we live
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in a just country. I want to believe that someone would only come forward with something like this
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if it were true, but we just don't know, uh, given the circumstances, given Democrats CD tactics so
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far, we have to take this with a grain of salt. Um, and now Ford is saying actually that she is willing
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to come before the Senate, uh, the, the Senate committee and to testify in front of, in, in front
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of Congress. And so is Kavanaugh. Uh, of course, Democrats are pushing for this because this means
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a further delay. They would like to delay the confirmation until after the midterms in case they
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win a majority in the Senate. Uh, Senator Collins, who, as I already said, is a female Republican who a
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lot of times sides with the Democrats, um, says that they should both be heard that we should have
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this hearing. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I am okay maybe with a closed hearing and it needs
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to be expedited. Um, but also, uh, you know, I, I want, well, I want to hear their story. I kind of
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want to hear her side. I want him to be under oath saying that this didn't really happen, but I
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don't want to delay. I don't want to feed into Democrats hands on this, especially if this isn't
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true. Uh, Senator Feinstein said she passed this along to the FBI and apparently the FBI refused it
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right away. So again, that's another indication that this may not amount to much. So having an entire
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hearing on it might be a waste of time. I just don't know. I don't know. Like I said, maybe
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expediting closed hearing would be the best option here. Um, but there's this new thing in light of
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the me too movement that says that we must under every circumstance, uh, unconditionally believe
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all victims. And then from there we should back up. We assume that the accused is guilty.
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Uh, I don't believe that that is right or just. And as a Christian, uh, I don't believe that that
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is biblical justice, not in any sense. That's that's social justice. Again, that is pushing
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down, uh, one group in this case, men, uh, in order to elevate another group, just because you
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think men are more privileged. I don't think that's fair. And I don't think that's right or
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righteous. Um, I believe that he or she, whoever the victim is has a right to get their story out
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there, but I do not believe without evidence or confirmation from the accused that we should
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allow uncorroborated claims to ruin someone's life. I just don't. Um, I care about all victims
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of sexual assault and I believe that perpetrators should be punished to the furthest extent of the
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law. Uh, I think that there is a special place in hell for rapists, but I also think that there is a
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special place in hell for people who falsely accuse men of rape. Um, I hate to see people's lives
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ruined over a rumor that they are helpless to shut down, that they're helpless to quiet. So if that is
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what is happening to Brett Kavanaugh, I truly feel for him and I feel for his family. Um, I still think
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unless more information comes out, I think he needs to be confirmed. I think Republicans need to be
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quick about it. Um, and shame on Democrats. If this whole thing isn't true, shame on Democrats for
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perpetuating and peddling this lie. If this is not true, uh, this is about the lowest that you
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can stoop. Maybe even lower would be an accusation of pedophilia. Uh, I wouldn't put that past them,
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honestly, if this doesn't work. Um, but it's very sad. What see who seems to be a very decent man
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is now, uh, his character is now being assassinated by a rumor that he says is completely false. Uh,
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so that's my take on the controversial Kavanaugh thing. Don't be bullied into believing, uh, that you
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have to side with the victim unconditionally, uh, without asking any questions. It's okay to ask
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questions. That doesn't mean that you hate women. It doesn't mean that you don't care about victims.
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It just means that you care about the truth, that you want to hear both sides, that you care about
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the validity of the story. And I never want us to be, you know, that phrase so open-minded that our,
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our brains fall out. That's what I'm afraid is happening with this, that we are so willing to
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accept the victims that we are unwilling to hear the facts of the case. I don't want that to be true
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here with Brett Kavanaugh, which wouldn't so much is at stake. And I don't want that to be true in
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any situation. Um, okay. I'm going to answer a few of the questions that you guys asked me
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via Instagram and then we'll be done. Okay. So first question is, uh, I am a fully recovered
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leftist feminist, hate everyone and everything is, and have learned so much since coming to the
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figurative and literal right side that I would love to share on social media, but I'm honestly
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terrified to do so. How do you have the guts to speak out about your political views when
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the people who oppose you are so hostile, don't debate facts. It seems like an uphill battle for
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me. Um, well, I think it depends on what your purpose is. I always, I talk about a lot when I
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go speak or even when I talk on social media about young people pursuing whatever career it is that
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they want to pursue or doing the things that they feel like they were put on this earth to do,
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um, is to know your why, what is your motivation behind, uh, your starting a platform and talking
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about your conversion from the left to the right? Is it to change people's minds? Is it to, um,
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embolden people to take the same steps that you did? Uh, is it just to convey truth and, and, uh,
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influence people with your own experience? Uh, whatever it is, you have to determine the why
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behind what you do before you determine the what. And the reason that's so important is because
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when you know your purpose, when you know your why that's bigger than the dollar, that's bigger
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than fame, that's bigger than followers, that's bigger than other people's approval. Then all of
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this, uh, petty criticism and all of this pushback that you get from people, uh, it just kind of rolls
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off. Now that doesn't mean that I don't care when people say something really mean to me,
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um, or when people hurt my feelings on the internet, because that certainly happens. Or when I get,
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uh, criticism for something that I say, of course it, uh, you know, it hurts. I'm a normal human
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being, but, uh, my purpose is much higher and bigger than winning the approval of people on the
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internet. I feel like my goal is to speak the truth in love to our generation about what I believe
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is logical and biblical that includes conservative values. And that includes most importantly, uh,
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spreading the gospel. Um, and that's my purpose. And no one can really take that away from me
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because I feel like it was given to me by God. So have a purpose that is bigger than all of these,
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uh, fleeting, temporary, superficial things. And you will see that people's criticism and people's
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praise of you, uh, just kind of rolls off because you're determined to do what you feel like you have
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purpose to do. Um, okay. Next question. Do you believe that you have to go to church to be a good
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Christian slash person? Well, those are two very different questions, believing that you have to
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go to church to be a good Christian or to, to be a good person. So I do think that attending church
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is an act of obedience to God. We're told to be a part of the body of Christ, to serve the body of
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Christ, to, um, love the church, to care for the church. I do think that means being a part of your
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local church and actually being involved in providing your talents in a way that builds up and helps the
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church. Um, I have not been perfect in that in every single stage of my life. There've certainly
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been times in my life when I've been more apathetic, like in college, you know, it's like, oh, I might go
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to church on Sunday or I might just listen to a podcast. And it's more, you go through a stage when
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you're kind of an immature Christian, when you just care about what you're getting from church.
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Um, when you're just like, oh, you know, is this pastor giving me what I want? Is this worship
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giving me what I want? When really it's not about that. It's about what you are giving the church.
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Um, obviously you want the pastor to preach the gospel and to be speaking truth, but it's, uh,
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more of kind of a relationship rather than a consumer transaction type thing. Um, so I do believe
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that it's an act of obedience to, uh, to go to church as a Christian, to be a part of the local
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church now to be a good person. Um, no, I don't think it's required to be a good person because
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I believe that all non-believers are dead in sin. So I'm not really concerned with people going to
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church to be a good people. I'm concerned about their unbelief. So what I want people to repent of
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what we should want all unbelievers to repent of is unbelief, not just behave. We don't just want
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behavior management. And so they go to church every Sunday and become good people. Um, we want
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repentance and we want a change of heart, which can very well be accomplished by going to church,
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but it can also be accomplished, uh, through evangelism from a neighbor. Uh, next question.
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How are we supposed to keep up on everything that is going on in the country and the world and still
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do work and timekeeping and be a wife and daughter and sister and friend and niece and granddaughter,
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uh, and proclaim the gospel and be with the church and serve the church and reach out to the poor
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and the loss and speak up for the week. And those that have voiced and study and worship
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privately and pay our bills, exercise, go to the dentist and get our vehicle serviced and go to
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the grocery shop. Okay. I feel like I wrote this question to myself. I promise I didn't. I'm not
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weird. I don't write my own questions. This, I completely feel yo to the person who asked me this
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question. I think this on a weekly basis at the end of every week, usually every Sunday,
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I look back on my week and I'm always disappointed. I'm always disappointed in myself for what I did
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not accomplish. I always feel like I could have done more. And I feel like when I have a week where
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I did, you know, a lot of good work for my job, I look back and I'm like, I didn't even think about
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another person this week. Like I didn't, I didn't volunteer. I didn't give, I didn't donate my time
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to anyone that except for me. And you know, of course my husband and my family, but I'm like,
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wow, I'm really selfish. All I do is pursue my own things. And then the next week I'm like, okay,
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I'm going to volunteer. I'm going to volunteer at church this week and I'm going to feel better
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about myself. And then I look back and I'm like, oh my gosh, I didn't see my grandma this week.
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I didn't write that article that I said that I was going to. I don't. So I, all this to say,
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I don't have the answer for you. There are only a few hours every day in which we are awake. And I
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think our responsibility is to make the most of our time to steward our free time. Well, one thing
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that I am really bad about is not being disciplined with my free time. Instead of using that time to do
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something productive, I scroll on social media, which is just a really bad habit. So I think it's
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a matter of using our time wisely, of being disciplined, of setting a schedule. And I am
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preaching to the choir because that's something that I need to do better. I am like all or nothing.
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I'm doing a million things for five hours and then for the next three hours, I'm lazy. I'm not very
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disciplined or organized with my time. And I think it's important to do that to make sure that we're
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stewarding our time well. But at the same time, you can't put too much pressure on yourself to
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accomplish everything in a 24-hour day. God knows that we're finite. God knows that we are limited.
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He made us that way. We have to rest. That's another thing I don't do well. And we have to sleep.
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And that's okay. We are not called to everything, but we are called to some things. And some things
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that we are called to, we need to do well and obediently. Last question. Hi, Allie. I have a
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question in IDK. If I should know this as a 26-year-old woman, who in the world takes these
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surveys that you and others refer to? You refer to a couple on your last podcast. I don't know if you
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mean like who specifically. I think you just mean the outlets. I typically use Pew Research. I just
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think that they have very good thorough studying. Gallup is pretty good. YouGov is pretty good.
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Those are probably the three that I refer to the most. I use Pew a lot. I get their emails every day.
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And I just think they study very interesting things and they have a lot of interesting
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perspectives. So if that's what you're asking, those are the resources that I typically go to,
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those kind of polls and surveys. So I hope that helps you. If you have any other questions about
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the sources I use, feel free to message me or email me. And thank you guys so much for listening.
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I hope that you have a great rest of your Tuesday, a great week, and I will see you back here on Thursday.