Ep 404 ｜ Should Christians Get Botox？ ｜ Q&A
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Should Christians get Botox? Should we get lip fillers? Is putting pronouns in our bio a sin? What will America look like for our children? All of these questions and more in this week's Relatable Q&A!
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Hello, hello. Welcome to Relatable. We are back today with another Q&A episode. You guys
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have a lot of good questions for me. We are going to talk about Botox, putting pronouns in your bio,
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communal repentance, what will America look like for our children, all kinds of good stuff,
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a wide range. So let's get to this first question. Should Christians get Botox? Should we get lip
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fillers? Should we do these kinds of surgical or semi-surgical procedures to make ourselves
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look better? So I know Christians who do this. I know Christians who genuinely love the Lord
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and who get Botox because they don't want that line in their foreheads or they don't want the
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line around their mouths or they get Juvederm or they get lip injections and things like that.
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And I think their argument would just simply be that it's not that they idolize their appearance.
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It's just that this is something that they want to do, just like getting your nails done or just
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like getting highlights or, you know, putting on clothes that you like, wearing makeup and things
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like that, that it's just kind of, you know, something aesthetic that they've chosen to do
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has nothing to do with the fear of getting old or anything like that. So I think that's one
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perspective. And I would certainly not question anyone's love for the Lord or the sincerity of
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their faith because of that, because it's true. Of course, we as women do all kinds of things to make
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ourselves look better. I've never gotten anything like that. I've never gotten Botox or injections or
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anything. And I don't ever plan to do that. And I'll explain why, but I do get highlights in my
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hair. I do wear makeup. There was a time when I used to do more, like I used to get spray tans.
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And back in the day, I used to get my eyebrows waxed. I don't do that anymore. People ask me about
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my eyebrows a lot. The fact of the matter is, is that I really, I just inherited these babies from,
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I don't know, my ancestors. And I sometimes pluck them. People ask me what I do with my eyebrows,
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if I get them threaded or something like that. I do not. I don't fill in my eyebrows. I actually
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really hate it whenever I get my eyebrows, like filled in. If someone's doing my makeup,
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I already have dark eyebrows. That's just an aside. These are just the eyebrows that I was born with.
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I really don't do anything to them. And I'm just kind of like a simple gal anyway. Like even if I was
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all on board with Botox and injections and things like that, I just don't think that I would do it
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because I'm lazy. And as you can probably see, if you're watching on YouTube, my nails aren't done.
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I'm just not, I've never been that kind of person. I've definitely gotten girlier. I think that as
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I've grown up, like when I was little, my mom can tell you, I've two older brothers. So she was so
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excited about getting a girl. Of course, you're so excited about all the bows and all the frills and
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all the dresses. She was sorely disappointed by the time I was like two years old. And I decided
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that I was mature enough and independent enough to make my own decisions about my wardrobe.
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And of course, there were times when I acquiesced and I wore the dresses and the bows and things like
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that. But I hated that. All I wanted to wear was jeans and a t-shirt. I was embarrassed by dresses
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and frills and things like that. I'm still pretty simple. Like I don't like anything loud.
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I don't like a bunch of jewelry. I don't like anything big. I don't like makeup that is like
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really obvious that I'm wearing makeup. I like things to be like extremely neutral,
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extremely simple. So I just want to be honest about that, that I'm, when I say that I'm not
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going to ever get Juvederm or Botox, I don't want it to sound like I'm being self-righteous.
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The fact of the matter is, is that's just probably not something that I would do. It's not really my
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style. That's not my personality. That's not how I have ever been. That's not how God made
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me. But I do think that there is a spiritual conversation, a theological conversation to be
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had about getting Botox and Juvederm and things like that. Fillers, facelifts, I don't know,
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cool sculpting. What else do the kids do these days? I have no idea. Other kinds of cosmetic
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surgery or augmentation that people get. Now the Bible does talk about conceit. The Bible does talk
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about vanity and caring too much about what we look like. 1 Timothy 2.9 does speak to not wanting
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to, as women, we shouldn't want to draw attention to ourselves based on how we look. Women should
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adorn themselves. This passage says, in respectable apparel, with modesty, with self-control, not with
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braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire. And of course, we read that passage to mean not
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necessarily literal braids or not necessarily literal gold. I'm wearing gold earrings right now,
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but it is talking about this kind of boisterous or ostentatious style that is meant to draw attention
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to you rather than to your godliness or to your virtue or to the gifts of the Spirit that the Lord
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has given you, but rather draw you to kind of draw people to your superficial characteristics. Now, I don't
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think that that means that beauty is bad. God created women very beautifully, created women to
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be attractive to men, to be attractive to our spouses. And so it is important for men to be
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attracted to the person that they end up with, but we also realize that the beauty of our youth is going
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to change. I don't like to say that it's going to fade, although I guess that's true and I guess
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that's biblical, but it's going to change. We are going to come into new stages of life where our
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skin isn't quite as firm as it used to be. It's harder to lose weight. Our metabolism slows down.
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We get wrinkly and we just don't look how we did when we were 25 years old. And I think the better
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way to look at aging is not to see it as a necessary evil, not to see it as something that
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we are trying to avoid, but something that we should be thanking God for. Now, I know that's really
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difficult when it comes to appearance, especially for someone like me who sits in front of a camera
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every day. I mean, it's so easy to compare myself to other people who look younger than me, or they
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do get these kind of aesthetic procedures and to wonder, well, should I do that? Is it something that
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I need to do in order to stay appealing? Is it something that I need to be thinking about or
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investing in? But I think that probably the right way for us to look at aging is with a heart of
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gratitude and humility that every day that we have, every wrinkle that is added to our face is a gift
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from God. Because some people, a lot of people, millions and millions and millions and millions of
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people throughout history have never gotten to the age of being able to see their skin degenerate.
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Like God hasn't granted them the days on earth to be able to see a wrinkle, to be able to see a laugh
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line, or they haven't had enough joy in their life to be able to have laugh lines. God did not give
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them the years in their life to be able to experience the effects of aging. Every day, every breath,
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every year that God gives us is a gracious gift that is supposed to be filled with purpose. And the
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aging of our faces, the aging of our bodies speaks to the grace that God is giving us and allowing us to
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live a little bit longer. And I'm just not sure if we are supposed to be erasing the signifiers of
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the gift of life that God is continuing by His sovereignty to give us. And we also know that
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focusing too much on outer beauty is just not something that Christians are called to do like
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we read in 1 Timothy, but also in Proverbs 31, that classic passage about women, charm is deceptive,
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beauty is fleeting, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised. 1 Peter 3, 4, that it is
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far better to focus on the inner self, the unfailing beauty of a quiet and gentle spirit, which is of
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great worth in God's sight. So again, I don't think this means that beauty doesn't matter and that God
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didn't create us with purpose because He did make some people more physically beautiful than others.
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But God also makes clear that what He cares about most of all, what actually lasts, what's actually
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really attractive and really appealing about someone is the work of the heart, something that's going on
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in the inside. And if that is our focus, I'm not sure that the wise way to steward our money is through
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these kinds of aesthetic procedures. Now, at the same time, it gets a little muddied or it gets a little
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confusing when we think, okay, well, why is it a waste of money or why is it kind of not glorifying
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to God or grateful to God for the years that He's given us to get Botox, but it is okay for us to have
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highlights or it's okay for us to wear makeup? And I think that there are a lot of possible answers to
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that question. And maybe you think that it is just hypocritical altogether. And I do think there's a
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conversation to be had about that by getting highlights. Am I saying that I am like grumbling
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against God for the kind of hair that He gave me? Am I saying that how God created me isn't good enough
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by wearing makeup? Am I saying that I don't appreciate the natural look that God gave me?
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Or is it just a way to kind of enhance how God made me? I think there's a conversation
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to be had there. And I certainly think that it has a lot to do with our motivations. I think it has a
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lot to do with our heart. I think it has a lot to do with the why, like I said, behind why we're doing
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what we're doing, how much of our budget we are spending on those things, how focused we are on those
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things, if we are more focused on our outward appearance than we are on our inward sanctification,
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then that would be a problem. That would be idolatry. So I don't know if I answered as clearly
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as I would like to on that, but I hope I gave some biblical direction for this. For me, I just,
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I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'll make that pledge to you now that I might wear
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the face masks. I might do the like retin-A at some point in my life, but I just don't, there's,
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there's something biblically, there's something spiritually that I'm just not on board with when
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it comes to those kinds of procedures. And maybe I'm a hypocrite for also getting my hair done. I
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don't know. That's why I don't stand in a place of judgment or condemnation on these things. And I'm
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trying my best to understand, but I hope I gave you at least something to think about. And I'd love
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to hear your thoughts on it as well. Here's another contentious topic that is pronouns in your bio. So
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this particular person asked me about Christians putting pronouns in your bio. So this is the kind
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of question that I've gotten a lot. And I will, I'll talk to you about, well, actually I've already
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talked about it and I'll probably talk about it more in a future episode, but we did an entire episode
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called the biblical telos of gender, the biblical telos of gender. And I'll try to remember to put
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the link to that episode in the description to, um, of this podcast. But we, we answered this
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question very thoroughly. Like, what does the Bible say about gender? Like, why do we believe in male
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and female? We've talked about that a lot on this podcast before. Go to my website, allybethstucky.com
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slash podcast. You can click on, um, culture, I think, or you can click on any of the categories,
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then you can click on gender and sexuality. All of the episodes about gender and sexuality will pop
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up there. Um, that's just a little trick. If you didn't know that I've got all my podcasts categorized
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on my website and you can go check them out. Um, but what we talked about in that episode and what I
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still believe today is that Christians, we don't need to be saying what our pronouns are. Um, and the
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reason for that is because that affirms this idea, which is not a biblical idea that gender
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identity and sex are different, that it is actually possible to identify as something other than the
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sex that you were born with something other than your chromosomal makeup. And we just don't believe
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biblically. That's true. Yes. We know that there are abnormalities. We know that people have disorders
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in which, um, they have hormone disorders or they have chromosomal disorders where they can technically
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be categorized as intersex, but you don't use an exception to prove the rule. For example,
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we say that human beings have two arms and two legs. We have 10 fingers and 10 toes. Does that mean
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that there are no people without 10 fingers and 10 toes? Does that mean that there are no people
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who weren't born, who, who were born with one leg? Of course, we know people who are disabled. We know
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people who were born without an arm or without a leg, but that doesn't change the fact that we say
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that as a rule, human beings are born with two arms and two legs. The human beings are bipeds.
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There are some people because of cancer treatment that do not have hair. Do we say that those people,
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um, that they lack the, that one characteristic of being a mammal, or do we say that, well, not all
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mammals have hair or not all human beings have hair? No, we say human beings have hair, even though
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we know that there are some people who do not. And so we don't allow the exception of people
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who are intersex and who should be treated with all the kindness and the respect of the world
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to then define the rule for all of humanity. The rule for humanity is that there is male and female.
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And that is a Genesis one issue. It's not just scientific. It's also theological. And if we cannot
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accept what God tells us in Genesis one, and then is reiterated throughout scripture, even by Jesus
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himself in Matthew 19, as he's answering a question about divorce, that God made them male
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and female, then we cannot be expected to stand up for the issues that are far more controversial in
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the Bible, namely the gospel. The gospel that we are all dead and sin apart from Christ is far more
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offensive than what Genesis one says about God making them male and female. And so do not kid
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yourself. Like if you can't stand up for this basic truth, basic scientific truth of male and female,
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basic theological tenet of male and female, then I don't think that it is true that you will be able
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to stand up for something which is far more controversial, which is John 14, 6, that Jesus
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is the way, the truth, and the life. And so saying what your pronouns are, and I understand some workplaces
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make this very difficult, but they cannot, they can't really compel you to say something. They
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can't compel you to define your, to define your pronouns. I mean, it's ridiculous, obviously, but
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it's also not great corporate policy. There's a possibility that there could be a lawsuit on their
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hands. I would look into that if that is your situation. But stating your pronouns, like when your
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pronouns are obvious, it's just giving credence to a gender identity theory, again, that your gender
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identity can be separate from your biological sex that Christians just don't believe. Remember, also,
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as we talked about in that episode, Biblical Tell Us of Gender, the idea that gender identity is separate
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from sex, that gender is actually a product of your feelings or environment, was first established by a
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doctor, Dr. John Money, in the 1960s. He started the Gender Identity Clinic at Johns Hopkins.
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He came up with this idea, not based on research, but based on some theory that he had. He tested the
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theory on twin boys, one of which he convinced the parents of to castrate him and to raise him actually
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as a girl because both twins actually had a problem with their urinary tract and with their tools down
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there. And so he decided that one thing that they could do for one of the boys, one of the twin boys,
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was actually to castrate him and to raise him as a girl named Brenda. And so that's what the parents
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did. And while these boys were young, and I've got the, like I said, in that, we talked about it in
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this previous podcast. You can see the links to all of that, all of this story in the description of that
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podcast. I mean, this is all just like basic knowledge that you can find just by searching
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online. But he experimented on these twin boys when they were kids. He forced them to do sex acts
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on each other. We're talking about twin boys, one that he convinced the parents to raise as a girl
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while he was observing these sex acts and while he had other doctors observing these sex acts. And
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what happened to those two boys? Well, the boy that was raised a girl, he knew he was uncomfortable
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as a girl. He was a teenager and he didn't want to be a girl anymore. He felt and knew that he was
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a boy. And so he actually ended up getting surgery later in life to reaffirm his biological sex. He
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ended up getting married, but both boys ended up committing suicide, of course, because they were sexually
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traumatized from a young age. I'm sorry, this is not very loving, but their weirdo parents were
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convinced by a weirdo perverted doctor to do something to them that harmed them for the rest
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of their lives, sent them into a spiral of depression. They committed suicide. Not only that,
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this guy who came up with this concept of gender identity, which I say was a very failed experiment,
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considering that his subjects both killed themselves as a result of that. He also,
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in research, and I put that in square quotes, he had pedophiles, known pedophiles, write him detailed
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accounts of their interactions, sexual interactions with children, so he could have, you know, robust
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research on pedophilia. He was a pedophile advocate because of these things. The guy was a pervert,
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Dr. John Money, and he's the guy who came up with this idea of gender identity, and we have just
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carried it with us through all these decades, and now we're trying to apply it to our lives
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and apply it to children. It's insane. It's insane. So for Christians to, in any way, give any credence
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to this idea that gender identity is something that is different than the sex that God created us
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to be, and how God made our bodies by saying, oh, here's my gender preference, or here's my pronoun
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preference. I think it's ludicrous. I think it's wrong. I think that you should resist it. I don't
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think in any way that you need to give any kind of credibility to that. You're a man. We know what
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your pronouns are. You're a woman. We know what your pronouns are. Next question. Hmm. What should I
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answer? Okay. This idea of communal repentance. So we've heard this a lot in conversations about
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race and within the church, so-called racial reconciliation. Tim Keller, LaTosha Morrison,
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Jamar Tisby. A lot of these leaders have talked about the importance of communal repentance,
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and what they're typically talking about is white people repenting for the sins of racism and systemic
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racism and paying some kind of reparations, whether via the government or not, to black people,
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because of the sin of slavery, because of the sins of Jim Crow, and the systemic discrimination that
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they claim lingers because of that. And they typically cite, for example, LaTosha Morrison talks
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about the book of Ezra, talks about the book of Daniel, how the people were called to repentance,
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their communities were called to repentance for oppression and for injustice and for breaking God's law.
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The fact of the matter is, is that there is no biblical precedent for communal repentance that
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is based on your skin color. That is not what we see in Ezra. That's not what we see in the book of
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Daniel. That's not what we see in ancient Israel. When you look at the book of Ezra, when you look at
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the book of Daniel, they are asking the community, God is telling the community to repent of sins that
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they were actively committing. Not that they were passively committing or that people who looked like
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them may or may not have committed a number of years ago. He was talking about direct and actual
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sins that were actively being committed at the time. That is what God was asking them to repent of
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in both of those books. Another thing is that if you look at the communal repentance of Israel,
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that does not correspond with communal repentance of white people today, because white people are not
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God's chosen people. I think everyone would agree with that. But any people of any skin color, of any
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melanin count, do not correspond to God's chosen people of ancient Israel. And so we are not God's
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covenant people based on our skin color. Of course, we are God's covenant people as Christians bought by
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the blood of Christ. But we do not correlate or correspond to Israel, whether we are white or black.
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And so the call to God's covenant people to communally repent of something cannot therefore be applied to
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people of all the same skin color in one place. And that is not God's definition of justice, which we
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have talked about so many times, which is direct, which is impartial, which is truthful, which is
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proportional. To say that all white people owe all black people something in the United States
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is to negate all of those definitions of what God tells us that justice is. Because we don't even know.
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If you're a white person in the United States, you have no idea if your ancestors played any part in
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slavery, if your ancestors played any part in Jim Crow. You could have come from a long line of people who
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have been oppressed themselves, who have been poor for generations. You might still be a product of
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the oppression that your white ancestors or any other kind of ancestors have endured in the United
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States. You have no idea if you or anyone that you know has any culpability in the kinds of
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injustices that we have seen against black people in the United States. And so for you to say that the
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family in Appalachia owns or owes reparations to Kanye West, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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That doesn't sound a whole lot like justice, does it? Of course not. Like, I'm not sure. Well, I actually
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know for sure that that's not how God defines oppression. That's not how God defines how we seek
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justice and love mercy. And if you're a black person in the United States, you actually, I mean,
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you might know maybe your ancestors were slaves, but maybe they weren't. Like, maybe you're not from
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Africa. Maybe you don't have a lineage of slavery. Maybe you actually come from a long line of very
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successful Americans and that you have not been under the thumb of oppression that other black
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Americans and some white Americans and some Asian Americans have been under. Maybe you have,
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maybe you have it. It could be that you have ancestors that actually sold other Africans into
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slavery in Africa. It could be that you have ancestors that own slaves, black ancestors that
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own slaves here in the United States. Same thing if you're a Native American. The reality is, is that
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the history of the world is people oppressing others and people being oppressed. People of all skin
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colors, people of all creeds, people of all nationalities have been oppressed and have been oppressors.
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And so when we say today that people who are born today have pre-packaged grievances against someone
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of another skin color, that somehow someone at the top has to like re-engineer and rearrange their
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lives in the hopes of achieving some kind of equity and the hopes of trying to right past wrongs.
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And when we use communal repentance to justify this, I'm just not sure that it has any basis
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in the Bible, of course, but I don't think it has any basis in logic either. And there are a lot of
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questions, by the way, there's a lot of debate around this idea that every disparity that we see between
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white and black people in the United States today is due to the legacy of slavery or even the legacy of
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Jim Crow. As we've talked about many times, both the white and the black family began deteriorating
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at rapid rates in the 1960s. And while the black fatherlessness, the rate of it has been higher
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than white fatherlessness in the United States, white fatherlessness has increased at the same
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rate since the 1960s as black fatherlessness. And the divorce rate among black families before the
00:25:07.260
1960s was actually lower than that of white families. How is that possible if truly it is
00:25:13.300
slavery that is to blame for the deterioration or fatherlessness in the black community? How is it
00:25:18.600
possible that actually family togetherness was better among black families before the 1960s than it was
00:25:24.640
among white families? And you also have to remember that it's not just black people and white people
00:25:28.580
that live in the United States, that family togetherness is much higher in Asian communities than it is
00:25:35.520
white communities. And in fact, in virtually all categories, Asian people in general in America
00:25:40.820
are doing better than white people in America. They've got a higher median income. They've got a
00:25:44.500
higher graduation rate, a lower divorce rate, a lower crime rate, higher test scores. And so if the
00:25:50.400
problem that we are facing today is white supremacy, like how do you explain that? And if systemic racism
00:25:57.040
is to blame for all disparities between white groups and black groups, what's to blame for the
00:26:02.360
disparities between Asian groups and white groups? And so again, there are a lot of conversations to
00:26:06.860
be had about some of the claims that are made about what certain groups have to actually repent of and
00:26:11.580
why in this country. So that's part of the problem. Not even whether or not communal repentance is good
00:26:18.080
or biblical, but also the question of like, what is being repented of? What are the problems we're
00:26:23.680
facing today? And what is the actual cause of them? All right, I'm going to do one more question.
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What will America look like for our children? So of course, I don't know for sure. I don't claim
00:26:35.100
to be a prophet. I don't claim to be a prophetess. But I think it can go a variety of directions.
00:26:42.280
So either the powers that be can have their way. And when you think about it, when you think about
00:26:50.160
the likelihood of the country becoming more conservative or becoming more godly or becoming
00:26:56.520
just more sane in any way, it seems very unlikely. The same form of progressivism, of social justice
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activism, which is chiefly concerned with performative activism in the United States, not at all concerned
00:27:12.580
that their supply chains, for example, at these major companies are characterized by slave labor in
00:27:19.540
China. That characterizes, that describes most of the powers that be in this country. Most of the
00:27:28.880
cultural powers that be are dominated by that form of leftism. Whether you're talking about big tech,
00:27:34.720
whether you're talking about major media corporations, most of the federal government now,
00:27:40.140
a lot of the intelligence community, as we've seen over the past few years, even portions of the
00:27:44.560
military, as we've seen in the past year or so, academia, the public education system, social media,
00:27:53.580
mainstream media, all of these entities and institutions are almost completely dominated
00:27:58.840
by that form of leftism. We're not talking about the natural liberalism that basically says live and
00:28:04.620
let live. We're talking about ideological leftism. And those same entities are telling people that
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really the biggest fear that you have to have are conservative Christians and people who voted
00:28:16.200
for Donald Trump, who have no institutional power, by the way, like have no cultural sway,
00:28:21.040
have no social capital whatsoever. They're telling you that they're the real threat. And so the people
00:28:27.620
who say that they're so scared of fascism are pointing fingers at conservative Christians when really
00:28:33.620
they need to be looking at the wedding of corporate media and government power that's happening on the left.
00:28:39.140
That's the definition of fascism, by the way. But it's all kind of a farce. It's all kind of part of
00:28:46.280
this revolution that seems to be coming on so quickly. So when you think about all of that,
00:28:50.940
you think about, is it possible that in combination with actual communist regimes like China, who is
00:28:58.380
about to be the world superpower, how is it possible for us to push back on that kind of stuff?
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And of course, I don't know. I wish I could say that I am completely optimistic that things will
00:29:10.240
get better. I do know that God is sovereign. Things could get worse and worse, or things could
00:29:15.080
get better for a little while, as we've seen throughout history, then get bad again. I mean,
00:29:20.020
history and the church in particular has gone through cycles of liberty and cycles of oppression.
00:29:26.160
I would say the church's history has been characterized mostly by persecution and oppression
00:29:30.340
than liberty. But history goes through cycles of really good and bad. History has been really bad
00:29:35.920
before. Humanity has gone through some really bad stuff, worse than way worse, a thousand times
00:29:40.720
worse than what we're going through right now. People around the world have seen more suffering than
00:29:45.340
you and I can probably imagine. And so it's possible, certainly, for things to get better. History tells
00:29:51.760
us that. And then it's possible for things to crumble again, or it's possible for things to crumble and
00:29:55.760
then possibly get better. It's really hard to say. But I actually do think that pushing back against
00:30:02.380
critical theory, pushing back against Marxism, pushing back against the absolute sexual insanity
00:30:09.020
that we are seeing in a curriculum, that we are seeing represented in the mainstream, I actually do
00:30:16.760
think that it's having some effect. I think that the left overplays their hand when they say, yes,
00:30:21.760
biological boys can play girls' sports. Yes, this man can enter into the girls' restroom. When they
00:30:29.160
start questioning parental rights, when they start to get too controlling too fast, I think that they
00:30:35.560
overplay their hand and people start to push back. I mean, there are already people that we've seen
00:30:40.180
who regret voting for Joe Biden because of how radical his administration has already been. Now,
00:30:47.540
whether or not they're going to have amnesia and forget about this when it comes to the next
00:30:51.120
election is yet to be seen. But I do think it's possible that raising the alarms about the things
00:30:56.200
that are going on, comparing it in a very realistic way to the leftist social revolutions that left much
00:31:03.440
of the world in shambles in the 20th century, I do think it can be effective. Because think about all
00:31:09.260
the institutions that I just told you were completely dominated by one form of progressivism.
00:31:14.940
And the fact that almost 80 million people voted for Donald Trump, like there are still tens of
00:31:20.780
millions of people in this country who do not agree with the values of those companies and those
00:31:26.200
institutions, that's pretty amazing that so many people are still unaffected or at least unpersuaded
00:31:31.580
by the propaganda that we're seeing coming from all those mainstream institutions. And of course,
00:31:36.100
that's why we're seeing so many power grabs come from the Democrat-dominated Congress. That's why
00:31:43.460
they're trying to change voting laws. That's why they're trying to make it easier to come into the
00:31:48.080
country without any path to citizenship or any need for citizenship. That is why they're trying
00:31:54.420
to dominate as much as they possibly can, because they know that their ideas are not popular. Their
00:31:59.700
most extreme ideas are not popular with most of the country. That's why they have such a, they lost
00:32:04.560
seats in the House, despite so much anti-Trump hatred. That's why they have such a slim majority
00:32:10.620
in the Senate because most of their ideas, their most radical ideas are not popular. So they've
00:32:14.940
got to shove it down your throats and to say that the voices of 80 million people at least
00:32:18.800
just don't matter. So that's why we're seeing what we're seeing. And it's just a matter of how much
00:32:23.660
they're going to be able to get away with. But do not discount your ability to have influence
00:32:27.720
in your kids' school, in your community, in your area, speaking up about that which is not true,
00:32:34.460
that which is not fair, that which is not right, that which is not safe. You absolutely have a voice,
00:32:39.820
and you have influence. All right, that's all I've got to say for today. I will see you guys back here soon.