Ep 455 ｜ Harry & Meghan's Two-Child Policy
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Is it wrong to limit the number of kids you have? What does the Bible say about it? Is it moral to have less than 2 kids? What are the benefits of limiting kids to sustainable levels? And what are the downsides of population control?
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hey guys welcome to relatable happy thursday if you are watching this on youtube you can tell
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that i am not in my studio i know i wasn't in my studio on tuesday i'm not in my studio today it's
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been kind of a crazy week um but if you're just listening to this i do have my same microphone so
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i should sound the same so just bear with me what we're talking about today is more important than my
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changed setting we are going to talk about um parenthood and the reaction to parenthood in
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children in popular culture and then of course what the bible says about it and it's is this is
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based on a few news stories um that were sent to me that i think show the different kinds of
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perspectives that we see in secular culture about having kids so this first uh story that made me
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start thinking about this was a crazy story that almost just sounded like some kind of i don't know
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if it sounded like a satirical headline or something that you would have read in like brave new world
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but populationmatters.org reported that harry and megan are receiving a special award from
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populationmatters a uk-based charity because they publicly declared their intention to limit their
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family to two they're helping to ensure a better future for their children and providing a role
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model for other families so they've got that they've got a two-year-old uh son and then they've got a one
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month old daughter great i think it's great that they have a beautiful family and if they wanted to
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limit their family to two kids whatever that's fine but the fact that they're getting an award for
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limiting how many kids they have to supposedly save the environment is ridiculous the idea that
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limiting the number of kids you have is actually virtuous that's what i'm uncomfortable with i don't
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think it's wrong for you to limit how many kids you have but winning an award for that for apparently
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helping helping the world i'm not really sure that i can be on board with that especially when you
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consider that i'm not really sure that that is that much of a credit to the future to limit the
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number of kids that you're having this whole idea of the world being overpopulated and the more people
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that we have actually being a debit to society and a debit to the world rather than a credit rather
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than a positive contribution to the future i'm just not on board with that not only is it not biblical
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it's also not moral and you can lead or you can see what kind of mentality that would lead to to start
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seeing um every newborn child as some kind of liability as some kind of burden that we need to
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get rid of and you just wonder if that kind of thinking is also wrapped up in um the the push to
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uh you know subsidize abortions not just here but worldwide so the federalist reported on this story
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quote for vowing to only have two children max prince harry and megan markle have received an
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environmental award from the united kingdom based charity population matters the group dubbed the
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estranged ex-royals role models for their enlightened decision back in 2019 harry and markle pledged not to
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have more than two kids out of global sustainability fears i'm sure they're flying commercial too uh prince
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harry said in a 2019 interview with british vogue that the couple would only have two kids maximum
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this is just so funny to me that this is being reported as something that is virtuous or they're
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trying to say it as something that is virtuous as if this is like some difficult sacrifice that is
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actually going to make the world a better place because he and his wife believe that the earth is
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borrowed borrowed borrowed from whom uh because surely being as intelligent as we all are or as
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evolved as we all are supposed to be said harry we should be able to leave something better behind
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for the next generation see i just have a much more positive view of human beings and especially
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children than these people do i think that the more children that we have and the more we raise them
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to be responsible kind good stewards of not just the earth but also the people around them the better
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the world will be i just don't see human beings as a burden on resources i see them as adding to the
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goodness in the world even though bad people exist that's absolutely true but we need more good and
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kind and thoughtful and smart intelligent people having and raising good and kind and smart intelligent
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thoughtful wise kids uh many experts the federalist goes on to say do not believe population control
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will actually do anything to help the environment moreover modern population control policies in
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places like india and china have had very negative consequences like severe gender imbalance and
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forced sterilizations of course that is true in china you guys know we've talked about before but you
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probably knew before we talked about it china's one child policy they forcibly aborted babies up to nine
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months gestation for several years in china trying to reduce the population and now there are many more
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men than there are women because a lot of these were gender-based abortions uh discriminating against
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little girls in the womb and also they don't have a younger population that's going to replace their
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oldest population and so they're facing a challenge there anytime we try to reduce the population through
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these means there are going to be humans rights human rights abuses this actually happened in the united
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states in the mid-20th century or actually earliest earlier 20th century in the eugenicist movement i
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think there were i read the other day there were like 20 000 people with different kinds of special
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needs that were forcibly sterilized as children in the state of california alone and thankfully i think
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it was in the 1970s that that was outlawed but that was something that was going on in the united states now
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the article that i read was of course a left-leaning outlet didn't mention that the person who started
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planned parenthood margaret singer was uh one of the pioneers of eugenics in the united states but you
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see how all of this is like nothing is new as ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under the sun a lot
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of the depravity and the hatred of children that we're seeing right now and the fear of overpopulation
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and the desire for like uh a pure a pure population with no special needs for example like in iceland
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when uh they decided that they were going to basically abort every child who was diagnosed in
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the womb with down syndrome now they hardly have any down syndrome children all of this stuff has been
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going on for a very long time unfortunately it just it comes with it comes with new technology that makes
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it easier it comes with new political labels that makes it seem more sterilized or makes it seem
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more moral and now that political label that moral label even is saving the world and saving the
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environment um and so sadly we see just different forms of depravity evolving in different ways and
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not only is it depraved but it's also just not true that we need to limit the population in order to
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save the environment or to save the world as the federalist uh reported harry and megan are known
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climate fanatics and harry has even claimed that the coronavirus pandemic was a punishment from
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mother nature for humanity harming the earth just as a side note that just goes to show how religious
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i think a lot of professing atheists are i don't know if they profess to be atheist or not but a lot of
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professing atheists who are what you would call climate change fanatics are very religious about it
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in that they're not willing to challenge any of the dogmas that they have that they have so firmly
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implanted in their minds and then they use very religious and almost mystical language like this
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like this is the earth punishing us we're borrowing the earth and mother nature is punishing us and so
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i think that this is really just their world their progressive worldview coming out that is probably
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that probably has more to do with their limit of children than actually any data supporting the idea
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that it's going to help stop climate change in some way and like i said it seems like some of the
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biggest climate change fanatics too or i guess anti-climate change fanatics i don't know what you call
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them they're not willing to make real sacrifices like you're not going to see harry and megan take a
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dart bus from like new york to texas if they want to travel they're always going to fly private
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they're always going to travel as much as they want to eat whatever they want to buy clothes from
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whomever from wherever they want without a thought to sustainability or their carbon footprint or
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anything like that but because they can win an award for limiting their their children to just to
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apparently um that is what they are going to do unfortunately for markle and harry their climate
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crisis cries have largely fallen on deaf ears many point out that if the couple were truly concerned
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about the global about global sustainability this is going along with what i said i'm reading again
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from the federalist the little family of four wouldn't live in an 18 671 square foot mansion
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with amenities and include a library that includes a library gym separate wet and dry saunas i mean that's
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just necessary i mean that's just something that everyone has who doesn't have both a wet and a dry
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sauna um a game room a home theater and an arcade they also wouldn't use private jets that have
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drastically increased harry and markle's personal carbon footprint of course this is always what we
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see this is just posturing it's what you call a virtue signal you do something that really has no
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you know lasting effect on you or maybe something that you wanted to do anyway maybe you only wanted to
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have two kids but because you can get some kind of um award for it and you know that people are going
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to give you a pat on the back for it you do it without making any other real sacrifices so i just
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want to make clear that the person who lives in a small house in say the midwest with seven children
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is doing a lot more to fight climate change than harry and megan are living in their mansion with their
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only two children all right i'm going to um transition now into talking about this next
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point which is seeing kids as social experiments all right i want to talk about this very disturbing
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story so a couple featured on a show called nine months with courtney cox have both transitioned and
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completely switched gender roles so i know this is going to be super confusing if you're listening to this
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with your kids might not be like the best episode ever to do that what i'm about to say is kind of
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confusing and pretty disturbing so this story came up on instagram nine months with courtney cox
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about this couple having a baby and so here's here's the summary from the post-millennial
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the baby suckles patrona a two-spirit uh nahua trans woman okay while what while what the biden
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administration would call the birthing person a hanu a two-spirit kainai non-binary trans masculine
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person looks on okay they're trolling us i there's no okay let me translate this for you so um
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because i've already read i've already read and figured out this story for you uh a two-spirit
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trans woman this is a man a biological man who identifies as a woman um yes and then uh a hanu
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the two-spirit kainai non-binary trans masculine person is actually a woman okay so this woman who
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identifies as a man had the baby had the baby vaginally and then this man who identifies as a woman and
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identifies as the mother is actually the father of the baby so in this clip that was going around
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on instagram from nine months with courtney cox the family can be seen snuggling in bed under a
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multicolored blanket shortly after the child's birth which was gestated in a hanu's body a hanu lies
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topless postpartum belly exposed with mastectomy scars on her chest a beard on her face
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uh by the side of patrona who holds the child to uh to their male chest i'll say his male chest
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and uh the woman who identifies as a man asks are they getting any milk the baby is not getting any
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milk and so not only do they identify themselves as different genders than what their biology tells
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them they also are refusing to gender their child and what's happening is in this clip that i'm about
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to show but if you're listening you won't get to see it is that um is that this man who identifies as
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a woman is actually trying to breastfeed this child and is very sad and frustrated that uh the child
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isn't getting any milk oh i have to put it over here so this man who again identifies as the woman says
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the baby has been able to latch patrona tells the camera as a hanu looks on silently but i've not
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been able to produce any milk because you are a dude and you can't breastfeed and this is super sad
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to me this is super sad and i know that i'm making light of this because it's ridiculous and what else
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can you do but laugh because if you don't laugh you're gonna cry about it and honestly i could cry
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about it because this is when it goes beyond that okay you know whatever people do in their bedrooms
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is none of my business whatever to you know consenting adults want to do however they want
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to dress is none of my business and of course that is true to a certain extent but you see
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how this is having an effect on people who don't have a choice like this child doesn't have a choice
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and is trying and is forced to suckle at a man's nipple who is never going to produce any milk this
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poor child who is hungry as all children are i've birthed twice i have breastfed two children i know
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what this is like they're hungry they want something to eat and you are basically forcing this child to
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grasp for air knowing that nothing is going to come out of you that is child abuse and if we had
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any kind of sane system in our world everyone would be outraged about this but we are told this is
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beautiful that we should just accept that this that this is great that we can't even talk about
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this child being a victim of a social experiment which is exactly what either he or she is and like
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i said i don't know if this child is um a he or a she so we've talked about we've talked about this
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before well first let me say that obviously and i'm not saying this about all people who just happen
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to be different or who lead lives that i don't agree with but these people you can tell from how
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they're talking and what they're talking about and their behavior there is obviously mental disturbance
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there there is there is a mental disturbance there there has to be mental disturbance to think that
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this man who is a man who identifies as a woman and wants to be called the mother is going to be able
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to breastfeed this child now i know that there are instances there are recorded instances throughout
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history of men being able to lactate but it's actually like this dysfunction that can happen
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if a man for example is starved for a long period of time it has something to do with the liver
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that is not something that naturally happens the oxytocin that is actually released both in men and women
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when a child is born doesn't produce milk because it doesn't have his body doesn't work the same way
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as it does in women and so anyone who says like oh yeah a man can breastfeed that happened one time
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in some like pygmy tribe 3 000 years ago okay it doesn't typically happen that is not typically how
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it works that's not how god made us and children are more than social experiments and i've said before
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many times progressivism always uses children as social experiments whether it comes to population
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control because of climate change whether it comes to the rearrangement of the family or the
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redefining of the family whether it comes to the rearrangement redefining of of gender kids do not
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have the ability to consent in these situations and we throw them in there we pretend like human nature
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doesn't matter like all of history doesn't tell us anything about how human beings are supposed to
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function in the environments that we thrive in and we say hey hope you adapt and do well and then we're
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surprised when um a lot of kids especially today are uh unstable um this is super super sad and i'm afraid
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that we're going to see more of this and this is exactly why by the way we have to be bold enough
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and i don't even think it should take that much boldness to be able to just say look like a man can't
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become a woman and vice versa it just can't happen and i'm not even willing to go any farther than that i
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there was this whole drama on twitter a couple days ago where um tommy laren who i don't interact with i think
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she blocked me on twitter like a long time ago i've never interacted with her talked talked to her
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anything like that but she was trending and she was defending um caitlin jenner because apparently
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caitlin jenner was at cpac and people were yelling at caitlin and calling caitlin all these names and
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being really awful which obviously i totally disagree with like that is that that is terrible like there's
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no reason to harass or be unkind to anyone no matter how they uh how they identify well tommy said
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that she supports caitlin she didn't just defend caitlin against these people who were harassing
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uh who were harassing caitlin she was um saying that she supports caitlin for governor because caitlin has
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the same values as her caitlin is a conservative and other conservatives should embrace caitlin and
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that i disagree with now if californians want to vote for caitlin like i understand that might be a
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better alternative to gavin newsom i agree but my argument is if conservatives cannot conserve
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what is the most or at least one of the most fundamental facts of life which is male and female
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that doesn't mean that the most fundamental fact of life is how male and female always manifests
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itself it doesn't mean that the most fundamental fact of life is that women have to wear skirts and
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men have to wear pants or that men have to have short hair and men and women have to have long hair
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i'm not talking about that i'm talking about the biological reality the biological dichotomy
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of male and female is one of the most, if not the most fundamental facts of life without which
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none of us would be here. Like if we accept this idea that trans women are women or trans men are
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men, whatever that means, that's some mantra without any actual substantive meaning whatsoever.
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If we accept that, then we're accepting every absurdity that postmodernism has ever produced.
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If we can't even conserve that, hey, yeah, biology matters and a man is a man and a woman is a woman.
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Like, do we honestly think we're going to stand up for something as that's less fundamental than that,
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like the Constitution? And I got all these. I said that basically on Twitter. I got all these
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libertarians mad at me and saying all Christian conservatives are the reason why Republicans
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lose. OK, let's like let's tease out that logic a little bit. You're saying because conservatives
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aren't more liberal, we're losing. If conservatives were just liberal, like if we just gave more
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ground on more social issues, then maybe we would win more elections. I guarantee you it's the opposite.
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I guarantee you the reason why so many Republicans lose is because they've got the moral strength of
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a wet noodle. Like they won't stand up for these controversial social issues because they're scared
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to. If Republicans had a spine, then they would stand up for a lot of these things that are so
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obvious. You wouldn't have people like Asa Hutchinson in Arkansas refusing to protect girls' sports and
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girls' privacy, but instead citing, you know, the precedent of Ronald Reagan or something like that
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to say, oh, yeah, you know, we should just allow parents to allow their child to be chemically
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castrated in the name of gender transition. No, thank you. I just I don't buy that. And by the way,
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even if it were true, like even if it were true that, OK, Republicans would win if they were just
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more socially liberal. And that's where the Republican Party is going. OK, well, the Republican
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Party is going to leave me. That's fine. I don't care. You think that's my primary identity? If the
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Republican Party moves to the left on all the social issues, I won't say a Republican. I don't care.
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And by the way, I would say the Republican Party is more liberal than me on on social issues in
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general. Like, I don't think privately, I think a lot of, you know, Christian conservative legislators
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probably think the same way I do about this, but publicly they won't say so. I would say the official
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like stances of the Republican Party when it comes to a lot of moral issues are more to the left than I
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am. And if they just keep going, then that's fine. And I just won't be a Republican anymore. And
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Republicans can just move to the left. And I'm sure that they will just start winning so many
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elections when they start saying that the that men and women, that those categories just don't
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actually exist. The point to this segment, though, was that children are not social experiments. They
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cannot consent to be social experiments. And they are not like a prize that you they're not like a prize
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that you win or that you get to put on your shelf to say, OK, I accomplished this in my life. Or I've
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always wanted to feel like a woman. And so I'm going to have a child and try to breastfeed so I can
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have, you know, this so I can have this proof that I'm really a woman. They're people like they're
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people as Christians. We believe they're made in the image of God. They're people with souls.
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They have requirements for certain kinds of nurturing. I've also said a lot that progressivism,
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I believe, gets human nature wrong and that in the debate between like between nature and nurture,
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progressives always pick nurture. They believe that human beings are basically just a product
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of our environment that we can that people can adapt. Like if, hey, we just implemented
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communism tomorrow, everyone would just be happy, man. And we would just not want to have private
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property anymore. We would just be happy for the federal government to distribute everything that
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we need. How's that going in Cuba? Not very well. Or, yeah, you know, it's fine if we just redefine
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what genders are. If we just all accept that we're just, you know, genderless, non-binary people
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and we no longer have gendered bathrooms, we won't have to worry about things like sexual assault and
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sexual harassment and predators and things like that. Things that were already seen, by the way,
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and for example, women's prisons. But they're wrong. Like human beings have natures that just can't
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change. And that is one of the reasons why communism and socialism fail so drastically is because it
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goes against the human nature to provide for yourself, to make a profit, to be able to care
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for your own family without the infringement of the government, to be able to own private and personal
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property. And progressivism in general just doesn't believe that there is a human nature that we
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actually have to respect, but that human nature can actually be changed by the people on top who
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want to socially engineer society to meet their grand vision of what they want the country to be.
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All right. Next, I want to actually talk about a positive example that I saw about pregnancy. Well,
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it's kind of weird, but pregnancy and kids and things like that from a place where I didn't really expect it.
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Okay. So let me tell you about this one last story that I saw that I thought was an interesting
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representation of motherhood that you don't necessarily always see in pop culture. So this
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is Halsey, who is a singer. She shared her new album cover on Instagram where she is holding her child
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and then she has like one of her breasts out. And she says that she is celebrating pregnant and
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postpartum bodies. So this is according to Yahoo Life. Halsey's new album will be released on August
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27th, 2021. On Wednesday, the bisexual singer, who uses she, they pronouns, released the album cover
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art, which shows herself sitting on a golden throne with an adorable baby and a single breast exposed.
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And then Halsey writes this on Instagram in the caption,
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it was very important to me that the cover art convey the sentiment of my journey over the past few
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months. The dichotomy of the Madonna and the whore. The idea that me is a sexual being and my body is
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a vessel and gift to my child are two concepts that can coexist peacefully and powerfully. My body has
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belonged to the world in many different ways the past few years. And this image is my means of
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reclaiming my autonomy and establishing my pride and strength as a life force for my human being.
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Halsey's fans have been sharing in their joy in there. I think that means her. I guess that means
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Halsey's joy since she first announced she was pregnant in January. Gosh, this they stuff is very
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confusing to read. It actually reads this. Halsey's fans have been sharing in their joy since they first
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announced they were pregnant in January. That's very interesting. Well, congratulations to Halsey.
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One thing that I do appreciate about this, even though it's kind of odd and I obviously don't
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agree with Halsey's worldview, I do appreciate that she is showing one of the beauties of motherhood
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and that she is honoring postpartum and pregnancy and that she is showing people that you can have a
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career. You can also have a child. Now, I don't know about her motherhood tactics or mentality or
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anything like that. But I do appreciate that she isn't one of these celebrities that is pushing this
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kind of environmental nonsense that your child is going to be a debit to society or a debit to the
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future, a burden on the future. And rather, she's showing the beauty of motherhood and the beauty of
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having a child. So I appreciate that. I know it's kind of like a low bar for what pop culture gives us
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in the way of celebrating motherhood. But I've actually seen a few celebrities recently
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post about their birthing stories or giving birth at home. And I think that these are all really good
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things because we live in a time when the birth rate is declining for a variety of reasons, whether
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it's economic anxiety, whether it's personal anxiety. I think a lot of it has to do with religious
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and cultural and political changes in general. Some of it might have to do with some kind of crazy
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environmental activism. But the fact of the matter is, is that children are a blessing. As Christians,
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we know that for sure. I still get messages from women who are married who say, you know what,
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like, I just don't want kids. I'm scared about the world that we're living in right now. I don't know
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what the future holds. And I don't even know if I'm really a kid person. And I always take the time
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to talk to these people. I always take the time to tell them, look, like you were put on this earth
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at the exact time and the exact place that God wanted you. Like it wasn't arbitrary. It wasn't
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an accident. It wasn't a mistake. And the same is going to be true for your kids. In the same way
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that God has equipped you to be a part of this generation and to face the challenges that you
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are currently facing, he is going to equip your kids and your children's children to do the same
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thing. The last thing that we need is for godly people to stop having kids because we're scared.
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If we see the secular world doing that, it doesn't make sense for Christians to react in the same
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way. The things that we do, as I've said before, we don't do out of fear. We do out of love and
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obedience for the Lord. And everything that we see in the Bible when it comes to children is positive.
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Now, I'm not saying that it's everyone's purpose to have kids. Not everyone will have kids because
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not everyone can have kids. It's not God's plan for everyone to get married. And therefore, it's not
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God's will that that person have kids. But in general, as I talk about a lot in my book,
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it is. It is one of our purposes for a lot of people who are married to have children. This is
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what Psalm 127, 3 through 5 says, Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord. So they're not a social
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experiment. They're not a debit to society. They're not adding to the climate catastrophe. They're not
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things that are going to take away from the fullness of life. They're not going to enslave
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us. They're not going to inhibit us from doing all the things that we want to do. They're more
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important than traveling to all the countries you want to travel to. They're more important than
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checking off all the boxes on your list of career goals. They're more important than fitting into a
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certain size dress. They are a blessing, a heritage from the Lord. The fruit of the womb is a reward,
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a reward. Like how different is that from a lot of the things that we have read today? Not again,
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not something that we have because we want to put it as a trophy on our shelf. Not something that we
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just ended up with or fell in our lap, but actually a reward from God. Like arrows in the hand of a
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warrior are the children of one's youth that go into the future with strength. So the best thing that
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we can do for the world is to have children and to raise them in joy and in the Lord, to teach them
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with everything we can to love the Lord their God with all their heart, mind, soul, and strength,
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and to love their neighbor as themselves. Like that is the greatest contribution, one of the greatest
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contributions that we can give to the future, whether it's the political future, environmental future,
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social future, whatever. Raise kids in a stable home with a good and a biblical foundation, with a
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biblical worldview, teaching them to love God and to love each other and to speak the truth and love
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and to hold fast to that which is good and right and true. And also to resist so much of what we see.
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I talk about also in my book, but also here that toxic mommy culture that is constantly ragging on kids
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and ragging on motherhood and acting like you are a victim of motherhood and how terrible it is. I'm not
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saying we can't be transparent about how difficult and tiring it is to be a parent, to be a mom. I think
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that's all well and good. We need vulnerability. We need encouragement. But the constant joking about
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how terrible kids are. I meant to mention this at the top. I saw a recent TikTok video that ended up
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going viral that I actually saw a progressive that I never agree with. She actually ended up slamming
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this person who said, you know, F kids. I hate kids. And so many people were sharing that original
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TikTok video. The progressive influencer who I disagree with on basically everything actually
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responded to that saying like, look, kids are the most marginalized group in the world. They're the
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most victimized group in the world. They're the most vulnerable group in the world. It is absolutely
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our responsibility to care for them, to protect them, whether you have children or not. That should
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be our mentality about children. They're not objects. They're not social experiments. They are
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people. They're made in the image of God. They have worth. They have value. And because they're young and
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because they're vulnerable, because their minds aren't fully formed, we have the opportunity and the
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responsibility to protect them however we can, whether they're our children or whether they're children in our
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church or children that you teach or children that you mentor or count or counsel, we absolutely have the
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obligation and the privilege, I think, of effecting change for generations to come by by loving kids as
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people, as people, not as some, you know, political object, as unfortunately, we're seeing with many
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segments of society. All right. That's all I've got for today. I will see you guys back here on Monday. And on
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Monday, we are talking about modesty. And we will also be talking about Matthew West's
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Modest is Hottest Song and some of the pushback that he got on that. And then what we should actually
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be thinking about modesty and what the Bible says about it. So looking forward to that. I'll see you guys then.