Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 16, 2018


Ep 46 ｜ Abortion Ain't Biblical


Episode Stats

Length

32 minutes

Words per Minute

167.35677

Word Count

5,443

Sentence Count

343

Misogynist Sentences

22

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, what's up? It's Ali. Welcome to Relatable. This is a podcast by CRTV. You can
00:00:06.420 subscribe at CRTV.com slash Ali if you would like to watch this rather than just listen to it. So
00:00:14.560 I'm going to give you full disclosure. I am actually not at home recording this podcast
00:00:21.400 as you're listening to it. I am actually in California. So I'll tell, I think I can tell
00:00:27.480 you at this point what I am doing in California, even though as I am recording this, I'm not there
00:00:33.800 yet as you are listening to it. I am. I am sure that I will be posting on my Instagram stories
00:00:39.800 that I'm in California. So I just wanted to make sure that you knew that I'm not recording it at
00:00:45.900 the same time. I guess it doesn't really matter. Okay. So I just said, um, that's another thing.
00:00:51.580 I'm going to try not to say um today because I got some feedback that, uh, that told me that I
00:00:57.820 say um too much, which dang it, I didn't notice that, but I take your feedback seriously. So I'm
00:01:04.780 going to try not to say it as much. Those of you who are listening are probably like, yes, I just
00:01:10.740 didn't want to tell you. I didn't want to hurt your feelings, but you do say um so much. And you're just
00:01:15.000 so glad that someone was a scapegoat for all of you and actually messaged me and told me that I
00:01:21.900 say I'm too much. I'm going to try not to, I cannot guarantee that I won't say it at all,
00:01:26.560 but I'm going to try not to. And I am sorry. I am sorry that I have been, um,
00:01:34.120 dang it that I've been filling in the spaces with, um, and I'm mad at all of you that you haven't told
00:01:40.880 me. Only one of you reached out to me and told me, uh, the guy that works with me didn't even tell
00:01:46.920 me. So I just feel betrayed by everyone. I'm going to try really hard not to say um so many times in
00:01:54.300 this podcast. Like I said, it will probably happen a couple of times. Anyway, I will be in California
00:02:02.860 or as you're listening to this, I am in California. Uh, actually I'll probably be on a plane as you're
00:02:10.860 listening to this. So I'm in California, uh, speaking for Turning Point USA. I'll be in LA
00:02:19.120 and then I go to Nashville and in Nashville, I, uh, am doing slash I did by the time that you are
00:02:27.080 listening to this, a PBS special with some people that I do not traditionally agree with like Chelsea
00:02:34.840 Handler, like Rose McGowan, like Olivia Munn, like Gloria Steinem. So all really intense feminists
00:02:42.580 that I was very nervous to be on a panel with. However, I was also honored by the opportunity to
00:02:51.660 have a conversation. I will let you guys know via social media when that special is actually going
00:02:57.880 to air. We recorded it Monday, um, in Nashville and we, it is going to air later this week. So
00:03:06.360 I'll let you know, I'm sure it was a fiery conversation. I'm having a really hard time
00:03:11.040 with my tenses right now because it's like in the future as I'm recording this in the past as you're
00:03:15.240 listening anyway, Nashville. And then I go to San Francisco and San Francisco. My husband is meeting
00:03:23.540 me there, which is going to be great and fun. I'm also speaking at UC Berkeley. I'm teaching a class
00:03:30.100 there. So all kinds of fun stuff. It's a busy week, but that is why I am recording these podcasts this
00:03:37.460 week early. And I'm going to try to talk about kind of more topical, less time sensitive things.
00:03:44.780 But you guys know, for those of you who have been listening for a while that we don't always talk
00:03:50.720 about the news. Uh, we talked about the news a lot when Kavanaugh was happening and when anything
00:03:56.140 big is happening in the news, I try to keep you all up to date. Who knows? Maybe this week,
00:04:01.280 as you're listening to this, the world is falling apart and you need me guys to catch, you need me
00:04:05.540 to catch you guys up on the news. I won't be able to do that. Uh, we are going to talk about something
00:04:12.180 more theological first, and then we're going to talk about a really interesting article that I read,
00:04:19.640 and I am going to refute it a little bit. So we're going to talk about this video that someone
00:04:25.580 sent me. I'm just going to play you a little clip of it. So one of you sent me a YouTube video
00:04:33.160 of an atheist abortion provider speaking at a church near your house. And she gave this speech about
00:04:44.240 how she is helping the world by decapitating babies in the womb. And I, it, it is beyond parody.
00:04:53.700 So first I watched this almost to this whole 39 minute video, just because I was so amazed that
00:04:59.740 there are supposed houses of God that are actually doing this kind of thing. The pastor gets up or the
00:05:08.120 priest, whatever it is in Episcopal world. I don't really know. I've never been to an Episcopal church.
00:05:12.840 He gets up. First thing that he says before he says anything is, hi, my pro town, my pronouns are
00:05:20.700 him, he, or him, his, he, I don't know what you say when you introduce your pronouns. I was like,
00:05:27.660 okay, this is what we're getting into. This is the kind of, this is the kind of church that we're
00:05:32.020 getting into. Kind of, kind of makes sense that we are also talking to an abortion provider and an
00:05:38.360 atheist in Sunday service. Okay. So Dr. Leah Torres, this abortion provider who provides
00:05:48.740 abortions in Salt Lake city, where she believes there is an onslaught of hate against her
00:05:55.380 profession because Mormonism is traditionally pro-life. Thank God. She gives her testimony
00:06:04.000 about how she is supposedly saving lives through killing babies. So here's just a little snippet of
00:06:11.000 that. Um, if any of you have happened upon the rabbit hole, that is my Twitter feed. You already
00:06:16.440 know that I do my best to live by Matthew seven, 12, uh, summarized as do unto others as you would
00:06:23.980 have done unto you. There's not a situation I've been in or can think of where that would not be
00:06:30.200 helpful. Imagine if applying that principle were as commonplace and instinctual as opening the door
00:06:37.860 for someone, a world like that doesn't have wars and a world like that doesn't have murders.
00:06:44.920 There probably is an intimate partner violence and there probably aren't children going hungry.
00:06:51.500 Such a simple code would do so much good in the world. Okay. Let's break this down just a little bit.
00:06:58.100 First, I think it's great that she abides by do unto others as you would have done unto you. I think
00:07:08.520 that is wonderful. I think we should all be abiding by that. And she is right that we would have fewer
00:07:14.380 hungry kids. We would have fewer victims of domestic violence. We would have fewer tragedies in the world.
00:07:21.080 If everyone just treated other people the way that they want to be treated, she's absolutely right.
00:07:25.980 Obviously, Jesus knew what he was talking about. I've said this concept before that all truth is
00:07:32.240 God's truth. So even an atheist can believe in something that is true in God's word without
00:07:39.380 actually having the Holy Spirit and believing in Christ. That truth is still going to manifest
00:07:46.180 itself in positive ways. For example, if someone read the Proverbs and they aligned their life
00:07:51.760 completely with the Proverbs, they're still going to reap the benefits of having a wise life or having,
00:08:01.740 I won't say a prosperous life, but a life that is defined by wisdom and discernment. And that's
00:08:08.740 probably going to turn out well for them. Now, spiritually, they still won't be fulfilled.
00:08:12.900 Eternally, they still won't be saved. But their life will still end up well because God created
00:08:18.460 certain principles and certain practices and certain behavior to reap good benefits. So anyway,
00:08:25.480 she says that she abides by this rule. Treat others as you would like to be treated. And that is great.
00:08:32.500 However, an atheist has no place in a church. Okay. Now, like I said, that doesn't mean they cannot
00:08:41.220 have wisdom. Maybe they even have wisdom to offer. Maybe they have a perspective to offer that church
00:08:47.380 members don't have. But believers in Christ believe that wisdom, knowledge, everything is fulfilled in
00:08:58.200 Christ by the Holy Spirit. There is no discernment in the house of God that should be gleaned from someone
00:09:08.680 who is outside of Christ. There's just not. If in general, we believe that when someone tells us
00:09:19.520 something who is not a Christian, we have to take it with a grain of salt because it is not defined by
00:09:26.020 the gospel or it's not powered by the Holy Spirit, then why would we invite someone like that into our
00:09:32.300 church? And she's not just an atheist. Dr. Leah Torres is also an abortion provider. Now, the pastor at the
00:09:42.880 beginning of this said that he is very thankful for Planned Parenthood. He said something crazy like
00:09:49.960 that. And this woman who is an atheist is going up there and talking about how important it is for her
00:09:56.140 to provide abortions. Now, she doesn't get into the graphics of abortion. Surprise, surprise.
00:10:01.900 She only talks about reproductive health and reproductive freedom and giving women options
00:10:07.800 and emergency crisis pregnancies. Of course, she's appealing to her audience. This allows her audience
00:10:15.100 to have empathy for these women that are in crisis pregnancy situations. She's making it seem like she is
00:10:20.980 saving lives and contributing to society in a positive way. But that doesn't get around the
00:10:26.200 reality that you and I know that abortion is literally decapitating a child in the womb with
00:10:30.980 forceps and tearing them apart limb from limb or sucking them out with a vacuum or poisoning them with a
00:10:37.440 pill. There is no alignment with that gruesome, brutal, almost archaic reality and the compassion that God
00:10:46.040 has in the Bible. Abortion and biblical living and righteous theology and a relationship with Christ
00:10:54.880 do not coexist ever. And there are a few reasons for that. The most obvious is that you are killing
00:11:01.960 an innocent human life. The only killing that we see condoned in the Bible, I'm not saying it's
00:11:08.220 wonderful and awesome and good and we should cheer for it, but the killing that is condoned in the Bible
00:11:12.920 is the death penalty for particular crimes. Obviously in America, it's for murder that we exact the death
00:11:21.660 penalty and war. So a lot of people say, well, how can you be pro-life and also be okay with war and also
00:11:31.160 be okay with the death penalty? Well, it's a little bit different sucking a child outside of the womb who
00:11:37.160 can't defend itself and war where people are voluntarily engaging and the punishment of
00:11:45.640 execution for someone who murdered someone else. It's just a little bit different. That's a false
00:11:52.420 equivalence. So to say that there is any biblical support for abortion whatsoever is categorically
00:11:59.140 wrong. Everyone who has ever read the Bible or who has gone to church knows Psalm 139 that God
00:12:05.220 knitted us together in our mother's womb. He knows us full well. Ephesians 1 talks about predestining us
00:12:12.000 before the foundation of the world. He's talking about believers in that case, but still that means
00:12:17.380 that he knew us before he even created the earth. He destined all of us. That means he takes special care
00:12:24.100 of the pre-born, of the unborn. It's not just people who are outside the womb that God cares about.
00:12:29.820 It is everyone on the spectrum of life from fertilization to death. And we as Christians
00:12:36.540 should be caring for them in the exact same way. Now in a perfect world, I think Dr. Leah Torres would
00:12:42.840 agree in a perfect world, there would be no quote need for an abortion. Women wouldn't get pregnant
00:12:50.440 and not want their child. They wouldn't be in an abusive situation. There wouldn't be rape.
00:12:56.860 There wouldn't be incest. There wouldn't be all of these horrible things. So she feels like because
00:13:02.040 these things are a reality, then abortion should be available to people. And I, as a Christian and
00:13:08.500 as a logical thinking person, completely reject that idea. There is no circumstance whatsoever
00:13:14.940 that justifies the brutal killing of an innocent human being. Is there? I mean, logically,
00:13:20.940 is there? When in any other situation, would it be okay to kill a child? Really? And the only situation
00:13:30.800 that I think abortion, that you can have a morally, logically sound conversation about the ethics,
00:13:38.880 possibly good ethics or acceptable ethics of abortion, is when the mother's life, physical life,
00:13:45.860 is truly in danger. But as we know, that accounts for, I think, less than 1% of abortions. It just
00:13:52.600 doesn't happen very often in America that a woman has to get an abortion in order to survive.
00:13:59.240 There was even a professor at Furman where I went to college. She had breast cancer. When I was there,
00:14:07.180 she actually got pregnant right after she found out that she had breast cancer. The doctors told her,
00:14:12.780 you have to abort this child. There's no way that you can have this child and have breast cancer. I
00:14:17.680 don't even know if she was a Christian or if she was pro-life, but she ended up having the child.
00:14:22.840 The child is wonderful, healthy, awesome. She is in remission from breast cancer. And it's just,
00:14:29.260 it's amazing. It's amazing that doctors would give that choice to someone knowing that there's a
00:14:35.860 strong possibility that the baby lives and is still strong and healthy and has a wonderful life.
00:14:42.780 So, I'm not sure that there ever really is a reason. Maybe in a very, very, very, very rare case,
00:14:51.800 there is a reason for a mother to have to abort the child to save her own life. In that case,
00:14:57.800 I think that you can have a conversation about it, that it should be a choice because then it's
00:15:01.760 a physical life versus a physical life. What are you going to do? But except in those very rare cases,
00:15:06.960 you are killing an innocent child for the sake of convenience, for the sake of feeling like you
00:15:14.560 don't have enough resources, just not wanting a child. None of these things are ever justifications
00:15:21.200 for killing someone outside the womb. So why does it change when the child is inside the womb? In order
00:15:26.900 to be okay with abortion, you also have to be okay with infanticide, logically. Because what changes
00:15:34.240 when they're outside of the womb, they're still a child, just because of their location, that doesn't
00:15:40.760 mean that it's justified to kill them. So this woman says that abortion is good, that it is.
00:15:47.980 Apparently, this falls in line with her principles to do unto others as she would have done to her. So
00:15:55.040 I guess she would be fine if she was defenseless, someone coming up to her while she's sleeping with
00:16:01.140 giant forceps and ripping her limbs and her head off. Like, I guess that's just part of her worldview
00:16:06.620 that it would be fine if someone did that to her. So after she said the little clip that I
00:16:14.220 played to you, she just said a bunch of gibberish. She didn't say anything logical whatsoever. And then
00:16:21.200 all of these people, they started asking questions. It was a bunch of old people in the audience too,
00:16:26.540 which kind of surprised me. I don't remember where this church was. She just, she started
00:16:33.600 explaining the importance of her work. This woman stood up and she said that she heard this story
00:16:39.160 about this guy who was at BYU in Salt Lake City. I think it's in Salt Lake City. It's obviously a
00:16:45.740 Mormon university who committed suicide because his girlfriend got pregnant and he got kicked out of
00:16:51.680 BYU because of that. And while that's a horrible story, obviously what they are trying to say is
00:16:58.860 that abortion would be more empathetic. Abortion would be more compassionate that if we were just
00:17:04.100 allowed to kill our children, then maybe everything would be okay. No talk about personal responsibility.
00:17:10.760 No talk about, Hey, the church needs to rally around these women in crisis, pregnancy situations,
00:17:15.620 help her take care of the child. Um, maybe help her with, uh, adoption services, maybe help her find a
00:17:23.480 job, help her learn how to be a mom, whatever it is. Abortion should not be on the table for the people
00:17:30.780 of God. And it, it really worries me to see a church like this, especially filled with older people.
00:17:37.280 That's just so surprising. Say, yes, abortion is the compassionate option here. We should be listening to
00:17:43.480 this atheist abortion provider, give us her testimony about how awesome abortion is.
00:17:49.960 If the church goes in that direction, if the church compromises, and I know Episcopal,
00:17:56.480 the Episcopal church is different. They've always been liberal. They've always been on the left.
00:18:02.080 They've always allowed things that are unbiblical. I don't even know if, well, I won't speak for all
00:18:06.260 Episcopal churches, but a lot of Episcopal churches that I know are down the same vein. And they also
00:18:13.340 won't even say that Jesus is the only way, the only truth in the only life. But if other
00:18:19.280 denominations follow suit down the same vein that Episcopals have followed, basically abandoning
00:18:25.480 scripture in favor of what is culturally convenient, then we are done for. Like there's nothing more
00:18:31.720 fundamental and basic to stand for than the value of human life. There is no denial of it whatsoever.
00:18:38.480 There is no room within Christianity for being pro-choice. Absolutely none. There's just not,
00:18:44.960 not with any biblical support. And that's why I harp on Christian teachers and Christians
00:18:51.580 who have kind of wedded themselves to this SJW cause. There are pastors whom I love in every other way,
00:19:03.680 like Matt Chandler, like Russell Moore, wedding themselves to this cause of SJW Christianity
00:19:11.400 when it comes to immigration, when it comes to racial reconciliation. If you're new around here,
00:19:16.760 I've talked about this in depth. I would go to past episodes to hear my views on the church and
00:19:23.140 immigration and the church and racial reconciliation and how there's just a lot of misinformation out
00:19:28.780 there that I think otherwise great Christian teachers are latching onto, like Matt Chandler.
00:19:34.240 I played y'all a little clip of Matt Chandler talking to Vice, how he says Obama was this awesome man.
00:19:42.340 Anyway, I think what these Christian teachers don't understand is that right now, while they are
00:19:48.400 spewing out the talking points, the liberal talking points for immigration, the liberal talking points
00:19:52.760 for race, the liberal talking points for misogyny and sexuality and feminism and all of this stuff,
00:20:00.180 they think that they are going to be able to compromise on these things and that they are going
00:20:05.020 to be able to appease the progressives, that they can sound enough like the progressive movement
00:20:10.980 where people won't call them bigots. But what they don't realize is that that's not how progressivism
00:20:17.940 works. It's never satisfied. It's not satisfied with you just being on their side for a few things
00:20:25.220 like immigration and race and not being on their side when it comes to abortion. So Matt Chandler in his
00:20:32.140 Vice interview, which I don't know why he would do an interview with Vice, but if you want to go check it
00:20:37.900 out, you definitely should. It's interesting. He says some good things and some bad things. I'm interested
00:20:44.960 to know what Vice and the people who watch Vice and the people who now follow Matt Chandler because
00:20:50.780 they saw him on Vice and like the things that he had to say about President Trump and Barack Obama,
00:20:55.940 what they are going to think when they hear his sermons on sexual purity, when they hear his sermons
00:21:03.640 on homosexuality, when they hear his sermons on abortion. Because he is the most adamant defender
00:21:11.240 of the pro-life cause within the evangelical community that I have certainly heard the most
00:21:16.840 powerful statements ever made about abortion, in my opinion, have come from Matt Chandler. I don't
00:21:23.640 think he realizes that they're going to try to take that from him too. And all the people in the
00:21:29.400 evangelical world, they think that, oh, if we get on board with the, oh, we're for racial reconciliation,
00:21:35.800 we're against misogyny, all of these things, which in some ways is good, but spouting their
00:21:41.420 talking points and holding hands with the social justice secular movement is not going to end well
00:21:47.500 for the church. It's not going to end well for otherwise good teachers because they are going
00:21:52.580 to try to advance territory. They're going to try to take your views on abortion and make you change
00:21:59.140 your mind. They're going to make you take your views on homosexuality, make you change your mind on
00:22:03.040 sexuality, on gender, on all of these things. And I'll be interested to know what people like Matt
00:22:09.560 Chandler, Russell Moore, all the people, you know, in the ERLC and the SBC who have kind of softened
00:22:17.640 their stances on these things. I'll be interested to know how they react when they are forced or
00:22:24.740 attempted or are attempted, like the left attempts to force them to, to change their views on these
00:22:32.180 obviously very biblical grounded issues. Now I'm hoping that this Episcopal church is just an
00:22:39.400 outlier that we don't follow suit in that direction, but I don't know. I get worried.
00:22:46.080 Someone messaged me and asked me because, you know, y'all know, I don't love Stephen Furtick. I think
00:22:52.380 that he is eisegetical and he's just not biblical in a lot of what he says. Someone messaged me and said,
00:22:59.840 what Christian teacher would you listen to? And I had a hard time because Matt Chandler used to be
00:23:05.600 my go-to. And I still think that he's great. I don't think that he's a false teacher. I just think
00:23:09.740 that he has started to intersperse his sermons with this social justice language that I think
00:23:15.240 is ultimately damaging and an impediment to the gospel and just unbiblical in general because
00:23:21.180 social justice isn't justice. But I guess I would still, if your question is the same,
00:23:26.660 I get this question a lot. I mean, David Platt is still great. Paul Washer is still great. I still
00:23:32.220 really like John MacArthur. Rosaria Butterfield is a great author. Christopher Yuan, great author.
00:23:40.820 There are still a lot of great teachers out there. And again, I'm not saying that Matt Chandler is a
00:23:44.660 false teacher. You can still listen to him, but you just have to be wary of all of the social
00:23:52.700 justice language that he has in there. Now, speaking of evangelicals, there was a very
00:23:57.260 interesting article that I read. It's a couple, it's a few weeks old now. It was in the Huffington
00:24:04.040 Post and it was about a lady who goes by, or it was written by a lady who goes by the term
00:24:11.680 ex-vangelical. I believe, I think this is like a whole movement. So she left the evangelical church
00:24:18.260 because of all of the problems that it has and wrote this article saying that she understands
00:24:25.420 why evangelical women are supporting Brett Kavanaugh. And the reason she gave is because
00:24:32.560 of the purity culture. She wrote this entire article about how the purity culture really
00:24:38.760 damaged her view of sexuality, really damaged her view of her body, made her think that rape was okay,
00:24:45.600 made her think that sexual assault was okay. And she says that all of us women in the evangelical
00:24:53.860 community are so tainted by this purity culture, are so tainted with this mindset that rape is okay,
00:25:02.900 apparently, that that's why we are blindly supporting him. So basically making us look like
00:25:08.140 sheep that can't think for ourselves because we've been so brainwashed by our youth pastors.
00:25:12.760 This is the problem with these deconversion stories who I'm sure she, she probably still
00:25:20.080 thinks that she's a Christian in the same way that Rachel Held Evans does in the same way that
00:25:23.860 Jen Hatmaker does in the same way that all of these D Glenn and Doyle, all of these deconversion people
00:25:29.440 do. They think there are better Christians now than they were before. It's, it's funny though,
00:25:34.520 how they think that abandoning more and more scripture because it doesn't conveniently fit into
00:25:40.020 their worldview makes them better Christians. That's never the case. So she makes the case that
00:25:46.840 the purity culture is to blame for evangelical support for Kavanaugh, which is absolutely absurd.
00:25:53.440 I was raised in this purity culture. I was raised in the nineties and early two thousands. I totally get
00:25:59.160 it. We had the true love weights purity ring that really did nothing. We had the talks about purity.
00:26:05.860 We had the rules not to, you know, be in a dark room alone with a guy, all of this stuff. I'm very
00:26:12.020 familiar with it. And while I'm not really sure that it did any good, I don't know if it was very
00:26:17.400 effective in keeping boys and girls off of each other. It never promoted rape. Like I never had a
00:26:24.780 problem understanding consent. I never thought, Hey, maybe sexual assault is okay. No, because that's not
00:26:31.140 supported by scripture whatsoever. But what is supported is purity. Like we would all be a lot
00:26:37.200 better off if we abided by scripture when it comes to sexual purity. And I didn't, I'm not saying that
00:26:43.900 I did. I wish that I had though, before I got married, like how much heartache would you avoid?
00:26:49.180 How much physical, even physical trauma, you know, avoid STDs and all that stuff that people have when
00:26:54.880 they sleep around heartbreak, physical trauma, everything else that you inherit. When you mess
00:27:02.280 around with people before you get married, the world would be such a better place. We wouldn't
00:27:06.480 have unwanted pregnancy. We wouldn't have hookup culture, all of these horrible things that are
00:27:11.900 damaging society. So just because this lady had a negative experience with purity culture, when she
00:27:18.740 was at youth camp or whatever, does not mean that the Bible, which supports sexual purity is to blame
00:27:26.500 for women who don't understand the difference between rape and consensual sex. And I just don't
00:27:33.080 think this is true. This is what happens really in feminism and leftism in general. They take their
00:27:38.620 own bad experiences and they project it onto the world and claim their systemic sexism, racism, whatever,
00:27:44.580 when really that's just not true. I know plenty of people who went through the same
00:27:48.580 purity culture that I did who are not confused about rape and consent. So she's just making up
00:27:54.380 this argument based on her own experiences. In so doing, she's degrading the word of God saying,
00:27:59.940 God is wrong about sexual purity. I am right. Which is never surprising. I've said this before. It's so
00:28:07.140 funny how when people get more liberal politically, they never get closer to God. They never get closer
00:28:14.600 to God. I've never met someone who has gone to the left on the political spectrum and who has also
00:28:20.240 said, wow, I believe scripture so much more. I have such a respect and a love for the inerrancy
00:28:27.240 of God's word now that I'm a hard left progressive. No, it's always they move to the left politically and
00:28:33.480 ideologically. They start abandoning parts of God's word and eventually they're just Christians in name
00:28:38.760 only. But I can tell you a lot of people who started out on the left, dug into God's word,
00:28:44.400 learned the truth of God's word, and then became conservative or moderate. Or at least somewhere
00:28:49.360 in the middle. I get messages like that all the time that when they became a Christian is when they
00:28:53.420 became conservative. Now, I'm not saying that everyone on the left isn't a Christian, but I am
00:28:59.800 saying often when you move to the left and become more progressive, you start abandoning God's word
00:29:03.800 because it doesn't fit into your progressive worldview that, hey, gay marriage is not actually
00:29:08.580 sacred and abortion actually isn't cool. And there are two genders, male and female. There's
00:29:14.420 no support that there are any more in the Bible. All of those things don't really align with the
00:29:18.980 progressive worldview. And so they end up abandoning the inconvenient parts of the Bible and just say,
00:29:24.500 oh, let's just be loving and tolerant. I've just never seen someone go to the left side of the aisle
00:29:28.660 and become closer to God. Okay. One more, one more question that I'm going to answer. Someone
00:29:37.020 asked me about birth control and what I think about birth control. I think it goes with this
00:29:41.660 whole conversation that we're talking about. So if you are my dad or my brother listening to this,
00:29:46.880 maybe you don't want to listen to this anymore because I'll just get personal. So we are,
00:29:52.220 I don't take birth control. And personally, I don't want to, but it is not because of possibly
00:30:01.860 abortive reasons. I just, I am hypothyroid. So I take Synthroid and birth control can mess up your
00:30:08.860 hormones. That's happened to me before. I just didn't want to do it. So we are not on birth control.
00:30:14.200 What I have heard from people who are smarter than me and better at science than I am, that there are
00:30:19.060 some birth controls that do have an abortive feature to them that makes your uterus inhospitable
00:30:26.120 so that even if you get pregnant, the fetus will actually, or the zygote, whatever you want to call
00:30:31.320 it, will actually die. That is an abortion. If you believe that life starts at fertilization,
00:30:36.320 which it does, there are apparently, apparently, I don't know, but there are apparently other birth
00:30:41.620 controls that don't do that, that actually prevent fertilization. So I would do your research
00:30:46.800 before taking birth control. If you are married, sexually active, I would do, I would do some
00:30:53.280 research on that, on which birth control is doing what and how it's doing that. So that's my thought
00:31:00.700 on it. I don't, I'm not Catholic. I don't think, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I haven't
00:31:07.200 had to deal with the moral and the biblical implications of this because I'm not on birth
00:31:10.880 control. But then of course there's the whole question of, well, shouldn't you just trust God
00:31:15.380 in getting pregnant whenever he wants you to get pregnant? Yes, but also technology medicine is
00:31:24.420 awesome. Like you could say that about anything then. If that was your mentality on birth control,
00:31:29.620 you could say, well, should you even take cold medicine? Because God will heal you when he wants
00:31:34.100 to heal you. Should you do chemotherapy? Because God will heal your cancer if he wants to heal your
00:31:38.600 cancer. I do think that God has allowed the development of some medicines to help us. Now,
00:31:43.060 I don't think putting off kids forever and ever, just because you want to be selfish and you want
00:31:48.300 to pursue your own career is a godly thing. The Bible says that kids are a blessing. So often we
00:31:53.200 see kids as an inconvenience and that's an unbiblical way to think. We shouldn't see kids as an inconvenience
00:31:58.960 or an impediment to our selfish desires. Kids are a blessing. So I think you have to be honest with
00:32:04.280 your own heart. You have to be honest with your community who's holding you accountable. If you are
00:32:08.600 married and thinking about having kids, what are the reasons that you're not having kids? What kind of
00:32:12.480 birth control are you on? Blah, blah, blah. I'm happy to hear some refutations on that. If you have
00:32:17.860 them, feel free to send them to me. Allie at the conservative millennial blog.com. Of course,
00:32:23.020 you can message me on Instagram as well. And I love you guys. Make sure to tune into PBS this week. I will
00:32:28.840 tell you what night is on. Okay. Bye.