Ep 470 | BlackRock, Bill Gates & the Great Reset | Guest: Justin Haskins
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Summary
Justin Haskins, Director of the Stopping Socialism Center at the Heartland Institute, joins us to talk about the massive amount of money being pumped into the U.S. property market by multinational corporations like BlackRock and JP Morgan Chase.
Transcript
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. We got a big episode for you today. If this does not red
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pill you and everyone you know, I don't know what will. We are about to take the mask off
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of everything that's been happening for the past year and a half and actually everything
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that has been happening before that, at least as much as we know. So we've talked about the
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Great Reset on this podcast before. I wish I could say it was a conspiracy theory. Like
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I wish I could just put on my tinfoil hat and say, you know, none of this is really happening,
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but it's fun to talk about. That's not the case. Like we are talking about the facts of
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what is going on in the highest levels of both national and global governance and influence
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and how everything that's been happening for the past year and a half. And like I said,
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beyond that plays into it. Now I'm going to warn you, like this is going to be overwhelming
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at times. Okay. Like there's probably going to be times when you're going to have to pause
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this and you're going to have to just take a deep breath and remind yourself that God
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is sovereign. And it's scary. Like I'm not going to lie to you, but I really, really encourage
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you to listen to or watch this entire episode, to share it with everyone that you know, to
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beg them to listen to it and watch it, and then go talk about it with them and do whatever
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you can to be involved where you are to speak up about that, which is good and right and
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true, because that matters. It might seem sometimes in this episode, like there's nothing you can
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do. I don't believe that. I simply don't believe that. And then at the end, I'm going to leave
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us with some encouragement, with some biblical encouragement, because at the end of the day,
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God is on his throne. He is the one that's sovereign. But gosh, I cannot recommend you
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listen to this interview anymore. So without further ado, here is Justin Haskins.
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Justin, thank you so much for joining us again. Can you remind everyone who you are and what you do?
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Sure. My name is Justin Haskins. I am the editorial director and a research fellow at the Heartland
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Institute, which is a national free market think tank. And at the Heartland Institute, I head our
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Stopping Socialism Center there, the director of that center. And we have a website, stopping
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socialism.com and a whole bunch of events that we run every year. And our goal is to fight against
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socialism and especially teach younger kids about younger people, the importance of capitalism and free
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markets and individual liberty and the dangers of socialism and collectivism.
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Well, that is really important work. And we're glad that you do it. You've been on the podcast
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before. We talked about The Great Reset. We'll link to that previous episode in the description of
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this show and a lot of good feedback about that show, because a lot of people didn't really know
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if The Great Reset was anything beyond conspiracy theory. And now, you know, several months later,
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we're still talking about it. And one thing that I've seen people talk about a lot that I just
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don't fully understand, you know, what is going on here is BlackRock and BlackRock buying a bunch of
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homes. So can you tell us, do those two things go together? What is BlackRock? What the heck is going
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on? Is it a conspiracy theory? Just break it all down for us. Sure, sure. So first of all, there is it is an
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important issue. There's no doubt about it whatsoever. It's not about just one single
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company, BlackRock. For a lot of reasons, BlackRock is the one getting all of the attention. But the
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fact of the matter is, there's a whole bunch of corporations who are buying up property. And they're
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buying up a lot of middle class homes or homes that the middle class would traditionally be
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interested in buying, in some cases, buying up whole developments. 15% of all homes for sale in the
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first quarter of this year were purchased by corporations. In cities like Houston, corporations
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and investment management groups have purchased one quarter of homes that were for sale, available
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for sale. There was the Wall Street Journal did a really influential report earlier this year that
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kind of sparked this conversation, because there was this whole housing development in a suburb of
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Houston called Conroe that was purchased by a corporation, the entire housing development. And nobody
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expected that that was going to happen. They just showed up and paid millions of dollars to buy every
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single home in this new development. There are zip codes in the Atlanta area, which is full of
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corporations buying up these homes. There are zip codes in the Atlanta area where certain years, 90% of the
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homes for sale are purchased by corporations. So there are large corporations and investment management
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groups like BlackRock and Blackstone, which is different from BlackRock, and a whole bunch of
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others that are purchasing these homes. It isn't a problem everywhere, which I think is one of the most
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important things for people to understand. When people talk about these companies going up and snatching
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homes everywhere they can find them, that's not exactly true. They're targeting markets where it
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makes sense for them financially to buy these homes. They're coming in, they're outbidding everybody in
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the area, and they're buying homes en masse. But it's not everywhere. It's only in desirable locations,
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which of course is a problem because they tend to be middle homes for the middle class. And so it's really
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hard in these markets for families who normally would be able to afford these homes to buy them because
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they're competing with these big gigantic corporations who are able to afford paying a
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lot more for these houses. And why are they doing this? Okay, so there are a variety of reasons for
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why they're doing it. I think the primary reason they're doing it is because housing can be a very
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good investment. These large corporations have access to capital right now at a very, very low cost.
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What I mean by that is they can go to banks and they can get loans for millions or hundreds of
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millions or even billions of dollars in some cases to purchase huge amounts of property or several
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kinds of property developments and things like that over a long period of time at very,
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very low interest rates. When regular people go to get a mortgage today, and right now mortgage rates
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are very, very low. They're paying between 2% to 4% depending on their credit and other things,
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their down payment, that sort of thing. These big corporations can get access to massive amounts
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of money for a little over 1% interest rate. Now, that doesn't seem like a whole lot. Maybe that's not
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a huge difference, but it is. It's half in some cases. In some situations, it might be a third of what
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you're able to get it at. They already have lots of money. If you're a bank, who are you going to
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give the loan to? Are you going to give it to some regular person who may not ever pay it back or to a
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giant corporation? Are you going to give them a better rate than regular people? It's a good investment
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for them. They have access to this capital. The reason they have access to this capital is because of
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all of this money printing that's been going on from the Federal Reserve. That's the main reason.
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That's the driver behind all of this. It hasn't just been going on this past year. This has been
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going on for well over a decade to varying degrees. It's just increased in the past year or so because
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of all of the money printing that's happened with the Federal Reserve. Some people speculate that the
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Federal Reserve and these big banks and these corporations are actually intentionally in cahoots
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to basically try to, for lack of a better word, screw the middle working class. Do you think that's true
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or is that a conspiracy? So I think that there is no doubt that they're in cahoots and they are working
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together. The question is, are they doing it because they want to screw the middle class? I think the answer
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is not really. I think this is actually a symptom of a much larger structural change, a much larger
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movement that's being pushed by these elites at these big financial institutions and on Wall Street
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and in corporations and in government and elsewhere, international institutions. It's all part of the
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Great Reset type stuff that we had talked about before. This endless printing of money that's been going on
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is not being distributed equally to people throughout society. It's mostly being concentrated in the hands
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of these big corporations and these big financial institutions at the top. The money is circulating
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from banks to corporations to investment managers. That's what BlackRock is, is an investment management
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company. And they're all getting really, really rich off of this. Now, I believe that they're,
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in a sense, it is a form of collusion, I guess you could say, that they're doing all of this. They
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all know each other. They all hang out at Davos with each other. I do believe there is a plan here,
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but I don't think the goal is, well, let's just screw the middle class. I think the goal is,
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let's get as rich as we possibly can using this system for as long as we can possibly do it. And in the
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process, we become really powerful and really influential and we can help change society and
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alter society and create wokeness throughout our society. Yeah. So are they trying to, would they
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say that, would they say that they're trying to make society more equitable somehow? Is that like
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how they kind of, I don't know, mask their greed? Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt that that's what
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they're saying is the purpose of the great reset. And this is a part of the great reset, I believe,
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is to make society more equitable, to make it greener. This whole ESG system that we've talked
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about before on your podcast of reworking the way that we evaluate corporations and businesses
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so that instead of just looking at how good the products and services are that a corporation
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produces or how happy this customers are, how much money you make, we look at those things.
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But we also look at this elaborate system of metrics called ESG metrics, environmental,
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social and governance metrics, so that companies that may not be as profitable, may not produce
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services that are as good or as desirable in the marketplace as some other company is valued higher
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because they are woke based on all of these ESG metrics. This is the system that's being rolled
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out. It's already in place in many corporations. And so there is, there's no doubt about it that
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that's a huge component of it. They want to use their economic power to alter society. Yeah. The
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question that you asked is, is this, you know, why are they doing this? Is it really because they care
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about these woke causes or are they just trying to get really, really rich? I think personally,
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they're just trying to get really, really rich and that all of these woke causes that they've adopted
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is a way of getting the far left to buy into all of this and allow this to go on. So they've created this
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alliance with, with people on the far left. They'll leave them alone because these, these while and
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watch while these big corporations snatch up property, while these banks print trillions and trillions of
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dollars of the fed and all these people get filthy rich, the left will allow this to happen because
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these institutions are promoting left-wing causes. And I think that's the primary motivation that's
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behind a lot of these things that are going on. You know, what you said about the ESG score makes
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a lot of sense when you hear conservatives asking myself included, like, why do these companies want
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to risk polarizing potentially, you know, half of their customer base? Don't they just want to make,
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don't they just want to make as much money as possible? And so why do they latch on to these
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policies that they know are really unpopular? And obviously, I think one of the reasons is that
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they know conservatives just don't tend to boycott and they don't feel like they can. Okay, it's really
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hard not to use Amazon or Twitter or a lot of these big corporations. So they know that they probably
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won't lose that many people. But also, if they can get a lot of value from promoting these kinds of
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woke causes that, you know, will end up giving them profit in a way that, you know, just having
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conservatives like them wouldn't, then that makes a lot of sense when they are kind of weighing this
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cost-benefit analysis. Like, they're okay with losing customers like me and you. Because at the end of the
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day, they have value elsewhere, basically. And can you back up a little bit, just for those who
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maybe didn't watch the previous episode with you, what is the Great Reset and how does all of this
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kind of tie together? Right. So the Great Reset is a slogan. It's a slogan that was created by the
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World Economic Forum and by a bunch of global elites that got together in 2020. They launched this
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in June of 2020. It was a who's who of big institutions. Heads of corporations were there.
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The World Economic Forum was sort of the leader of this. They're the folks that are behind the
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annual Davos meeting that everyone always loves to talk about, brings in big, rich celebrities and
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heads of corporations and stuff every year. They could talk about how they can make the world a better
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place. That's held in Switzerland. The Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales, the United Kingdom was one of
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the co-hosts of this meeting. The head of the United Nations was there, the head of the International
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Monetary Fund. There were people like John Kerry and Al Gore have endorsed it. John Kerry was very open
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about the Great Reset and Joe Biden's support for the Great Reset, even though Joe Biden didn't
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necessarily come out and talk about it specifically. So what is the Great Reset? It is a movement to
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transform the global economy. The Great Reset is a is a slogan that they came up with. It means pushing
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the reset button on the global economy. They want to move from what they call a shareholder capitalist
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system, which is our sort of our modern economy, to what they're calling a stakeholder capitalist
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system. And what they mean by stakeholder capitalist is collectivist capitalist. They want to change
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our market economy so that companies that are operating, banks that are operating within the
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economy have to put the collective before profits, before shareholders, before customers, before the
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quality of goods and services. And that manifests itself through this ESG system, right? The E is
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environment. So like climate change and air quality and all of these things and social justice causes
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would be the S and G is governance. It's like responsible governance of the actual businesses
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themselves. And so some of the things that they want to do, like not do business with people who
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engage in child labor, for example, is great. That's a good thing. Yeah, but they'll never do that
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because they I mean, they'll never do that because that would mean excluding China. And China has to be a
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huge part of this, right? Well, China always China, China always gets around all of these things.
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Right. The rules never apply to China. But the idea behind the Great Reset is to change the Western
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world. They have no control over the Eastern world. The West is all that they can control. And that's
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really right. Exactly. And going back on what you said earlier, because what you said earlier is so,
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so important. You hit on a really important point about why would these companies go along with all of
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this? Why would they do this if they're going to lose and alienate all these millions of customers?
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Right. The reason that they're going to do it is because the massive amount of money printing that
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has occurred over the past decade and a half or so has created so much wealth amongst these elites
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and these banks and these investment management companies that they control way more money than all of
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the customers in America combined. To give you some sense of what's going on here, a company like
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BlackRock has $9 trillion in management and manages $9 trillion worth of wealth. If you take the top 10
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investment management companies in the world, like BlackRock, State Street Investments, there's a bunch
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of them, subsidiaries of banks, and you just take the top 10 and you add all their wealth together,
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it's more than $34 trillion of wealth. The entire GDP of the United States of America last year was
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less than $21 trillion. All consumer spending combined last year was about $12.5 to $13 trillion.
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So these people control way more money, way more wealth than you or I or all of the American public
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combined. That's how much money they have. And where did this money come from? It came largely
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from this money printing that's been going on with the Fed and them pumping it into these financial
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institutions and then the money being circulated around these big fat cat Wall Street firms and
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hedge funds and banks and all of these people. They're all getting really, really rich and they're
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taking that money and they're buying stock in these companies and they're essentially forcing these
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companies to go along with it. And frankly, they're all they're fine with going along with all the CSG
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score stuff, this woke stuff, everything else, because they're all getting rich to all the heads
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of these corporations. So the reason they're going along with it and the reason they don't care about
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boycotts from people like us is because even if every single American boycotted companies,
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we still don't have anywhere near as much wealth as these elites at BlackRock and places like that.
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So how does this play out then? Like explain it to us like we're five to take a quote from Michael
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Scott about this collectivist capitalist capitalism. What does it look like if if these companies and if
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this, you know, group gets their way? What it looks like is the transformation that would occur is you
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would have big, large government programs, you know, Green New Deal, all the things that they're
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trying to push in Congress right now in America and in Europe and elsewhere in the West, right?
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They would have all these big, gigantic programs and expansion of the welfare state. That would be
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part of it. That would be that would be the part that deals with people who don't have any wealth.
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And then the other part of it would be creating this ESG system where companies are now being
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evaluated based largely on their devotion to left wing causes and the companies that refuse to go
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along with this or who don't do very well on these scoring metric systems that have been created
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won't get access to capital. They won't be able to get bank accounts. They won't be able to get loans.
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They won't be able to exist unless they comply with the system that's created by this ESG system,
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this ESG metric system. The whole point of the ESG system is to create a system that allows you to
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tell who the good companies are from the bad companies. That's the whole point of it so that
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we can exclude all the people who won't play ball and include only the companies that will.
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And to give you some sense of just how far reaching this is, the ESG, one of the big ESG reports that was
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produced about Facebook actually gave Facebook a low ESG score. And the reason they gave Facebook
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a low ESG score was because they said they weren't doing enough to censor people. They needed to do
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more to censor people. So it's as minute as that. They are rolling this system out all over the world.
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More than 80% of large companies in the United States already have ESG systems in place. This has been
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going on for a long time. It's been building. And so what is the economy going to look like in 2030?
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It's going to be the rich are going to keep getting richer. They're going to use that wealth to buy
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more stock, more power over these companies, force them to become even woker than they are today.
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They're going to use that wealth to buy up property. And they're going to turn our society into a renter
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society where we're all dependent on these big corporations for virtually any everything. And
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they're going to use the financial system to kill all of the industries and companies that they don't
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like. So you won't need to pass a law that says that Ali Stuckey can't talk about, I don't know,
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transgenderism on Twitter. They won't need to do that. All they'll have to do is create an ESG metric
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that punishes Twitter for not punishing you. And Twitter will just go ahead and punish you anyway.
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They're already doing this because the system is already in place and it's already starting to be
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rolled out. So the world is going to look sort of like what we see today, but just on steroids,
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it's going to get worse and worse and worse. And it really is the, I think the most important issue
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of our time because it touches on all these other things that you and I care and talk about.
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And we just don't realize how interconnected they all are.
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So to bring it back full circle to the BlackRock thing, so are they, they're purchasing these
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properties and sorry if you already said this, to make them into rental properties, to try to
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basically make the middle class perpetual renters so they can't gain equity and all the things that
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There's no doubt that they are buying up properties and they are using them as rental properties.
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That's the primary way that these large corporations, it's the primary reason for why they're buying up
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the property. The motivation is partly, I mean, we're now kind of speculating what their motivation
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is, right? It's very possible that that is a big component of it, is we just want to consolidate
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wealth, consolidate power, and make everybody dependent on the ruling class because we know
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better than everybody else. There's no doubt that I think that there's a component of that going on.
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I also think that there's a strong financial motivation for this, though, because they know
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that the Fed is printing so much money, and we're talking trillions and trillions of dollars more than
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they, than they printed back in the 2008 financial crisis. Trillions and trillions of dollars more than
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then. They know that the Fed is printing so much money that the dollar is eventually going to have
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to be phased out, and probably some kind of digital currency is going to have to be bought in. And if
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you know that that's coming, and these people are all at the very top of these systems, so if there is
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something like that in the works, they would know it, then the best thing you can do is buy hard assets,
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buy gold, buy mines, buy property, buy farming, and that's what we're seeing these elite institutions
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do. They're buying up these houses, I think in large part, because even if the dollar crashes,
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a house is still worth a house, and that house will hold value over a long period of time because
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people need to live somewhere, right? So there's an element of that as well. I do think the crash,
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which I think is inevitable, the inevitable crash of the dollar is a component in all of this,
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in their thinking. Does this have anything to do with the fact, I mean, just connecting all of the
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crazy dots out there, but that seem to actually be connected in some way, does this have anything to
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do with Bill Gates owning the most farmland of anyone in the United States? Does that have anything
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to do with any of this, or is that separate? Well, my guess is that it has everything to do
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with it. I think it absolutely is connected. I would argue almost everything that happens is in
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some way related to this. This is a fundamental transformation of our society, and that doesn't
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come from me. That comes from them. They're the ones saying this. They're the ones saying that we need
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to, in the words of John Kerry, we need to change the social contract of our society because the
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existing social contract doesn't work. That's the kind of things that these people are saying at these
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meetings. Prince Charles said that COVID-19, the pandemic, was a golden opportunity, a golden
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opportunity to change society. They are very clear that this is a total transformation of society.
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And as far as Bill Gates goes, Mike, the head of Microsoft, the CEO of that company,
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the president of that company, has been heavily involved in all of this Great Reset stuff.
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Microsoft has been deeply connected to the World Economic Forum, which is leading the charge on this
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whole Great Reset movement. I have no doubt that Bill Gates, at the very least, knows this is where
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everything is heading and knows that the best thing that he can do to make sure that he maintains
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his wealth in the future is to buy up hard assets, buy up land, because land will always be worth
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something because people need land. They need food to eat and they need a place to live. So land will
00:26:04.260
always be valuable. So he's purchasing it up. You also have the federal government talking about
00:26:08.460
restricting land ownership pretty dramatically. Joe Biden has a 30 by 30 plan. His goal is for the
00:26:15.340
federal government to control, conserve 30 percent of all land by 2030 in the United States.
00:26:21.660
Well, what's his reasoning for it? Is it some kind of conservation?
00:26:25.680
Exactly. He's saying it's for environmental reasons. But I think that the reason is they're
00:26:30.700
putting a squeeze on on on everybody except for the people who are the elites. See, the elites know
00:26:37.700
all this is coming. So they have time to put their money in land, to put their money in housing
00:26:44.100
developments, to put their money in the assets that are going to hold its value. Meanwhile, regular
00:26:48.780
people have no clue that any of this stuff is going on. I had no clue any of this stuff was going on
00:26:53.300
until about a year and a half ago when I started seeing crazy quotes from people at the World Economic
00:26:58.060
Forum. And I started looking into it. The average person has no clue what's happening. These people
00:27:03.080
are all setting themselves up for the next phase. And I have I know that this is the case because
00:27:10.180
they're the ones saying that they're doing all of this and their actions are speaking louder than
00:27:15.300
their words. Now, how does China come in, come into play here? Because obviously, if we lived in
00:27:21.980
any kind of sane world, their their ESG score would be very low. We know them to be tyrannical. We know
00:27:31.560
them to perpetuate all kinds of human rights abuses, not just in China, but also in how they're,
00:27:37.060
you know, colonizing places in Africa and in South America. I mean, just one of the most destructive
00:27:44.460
regimes in the world. And yet I can't see Bill Gates or any of these major corporations doing
00:27:52.540
anything to punish China. As you said, it's really the West and America that they see as the real
00:27:58.520
problem. So how did they come into play here? Do they like this plan? I mean, do they benefit from
00:28:06.560
something like this? Yeah, that's that's a really, really important question. I think
00:28:12.620
they absolutely benefit from this system, but not in the way that people in the West
00:28:18.380
are benefiting from the system. What China wants more than anything by people in the West benefiting
00:28:24.140
from the system, you're talking about the corporations and the rich people. You're not
00:28:27.180
talking about exactly the global elites in the West benefit from the system. Regular people get
00:28:32.280
totally screwed by it. Yeah. China benefits from this system, not because they're going to be able
00:28:38.440
to, you know, participate in it the same way that people like John Kerry are participating in it.
00:28:44.320
The reason they benefit from it is because I think they know that this system is going to collapse the
00:28:49.420
West. And what it's doing is it's creating an infrastructure to control society through corporations.
00:28:56.860
That's what this whole ESG system is designed to do. And you're using the financial system in order
00:29:02.400
to make this all run. If you think of the Great Reset as a machine, the machine runs on all of this
00:29:08.320
printed cash, right? Well, what in these corporations will do anything to get this money. And these
00:29:14.020
investment firms are forcing them to go along with it using this money that's being printed.
00:29:18.440
Well, what happens when the money stops becoming as valuable as it is right now? What happens if the
00:29:25.860
dollar does collapse? Maybe it never does. But what happens if it does collapse? Well, then the system,
00:29:31.200
the machine still exists. The infrastructure is still there to control society. But a power vacuum now
00:29:37.100
exists. These corporations need money. They need money to keep operating. They will go anywhere where
00:29:42.980
there's real wealth. And guess who has lots of real wealth? Guess who's buying lots of assets? Guess
00:29:49.120
who's purchasing gigantic mines and buying gold and taking dollars and building whole new infrastructure
00:29:56.100
in places like Africa, like you described, all over the East through the Belt and Road Initiative and all
00:30:00.820
these things? It's China. So China can easily step into the void here when this whole system inevitably
00:30:07.640
comes crashing down and use the Great Reset infrastructure that's being built now to force
00:30:13.940
companies to do what it wants. It doesn't these corporations, they have no allegiance to America. They don't
00:30:20.280
care. They've already shipped jobs and money overseas to China and places like that. They've been doing it for
00:30:25.200
years. All they want is to keep the money flowing in. The other thing that China can do is actually buy stock in
00:30:31.920
these companies. There's nothing stopping them from buying up companies through the stock market. They're going to do
00:30:36.800
that too. So in that way, I think China is benefiting from this. From the perspective of these elites in the
00:30:43.840
West, however, I think they believe, and if you listen to them talk, in fact, Joe Biden's been one of the
00:30:49.420
clearest people on this point. They believe that the transformation of society that they're pushing is
00:30:55.440
essential to battle China because they believe that the Chinese model of essentially markets mixed with
00:31:03.500
authoritarianism is impossible to compete with if you have a free market economy. The only way to compete
00:31:11.100
with it is to move more in the direction of China and then maybe back it off a little bit before you get
00:31:16.780
to, you know, throwing people into concentration camps. And that's what this Great Reset is. I believe it is a
00:31:23.080
competing system designed to try to beat China at its own game. And in reality, I don't think it's possible.
00:31:30.800
I think they're going to lose. And I think they're handing China the greatest economic weapon of all
00:31:37.040
time in building this gigantic infrastructure that can easily be controlled. I know we're getting like
00:31:41.760
really far in the weeds here. No, no, this is this is good. I mean, this covers the things that that we
00:31:47.100
talk about. And by saying when you say I think that they're going to lose, you're talking about,
00:31:51.780
you know, the Davos people. You're talking about them losing, but you're talking about them not
00:31:57.540
losing and things getting better, but losing to China. Right. And what would that loss then looks
00:32:04.520
like look like? Because I agree with you. You can't move in the direction of authoritarianism
00:32:08.840
and then back off because people in power never do that. By the way, they don't surrender power
00:32:13.200
willingly and then say, OK, now, you know, we're back to regular capitalism, individualism and all of
00:32:19.860
that. So if they do go that direction and they do lose to China, what does that look like?
00:32:26.860
Right. So what it would mean is that this ESG system that exists where there's all these metrics
00:32:32.260
that that provide scores to people based on a whole bunch of different things. And a lot of it is just
00:32:37.420
woke left wing ideology that are put into these metrics. These metrics can be changed. There's nothing
00:32:43.300
set in stone. There's no reason you can't change the metrics to be whatever it is. The people with the
00:32:48.220
money want them to be and they can reward the companies. The people with the money can reward
00:32:54.640
companies in any way that they see fit. So these metrics can change. They're easily changed. In fact,
00:32:59.220
they change all the time. If China is the one with all the money because the dollar has collapsed,
00:33:05.780
because America is no longer the biggest player in the global economy anymore, then China is the one
00:33:13.160
that's going to be able to set the rules for how people have to operate. And our economy will
00:33:17.860
easily be transformed through these corporations, through this great reset infrastructure to serve
00:33:23.400
the interests of China, whatever those interests are. And by serving the interest of China, I mean
00:33:28.380
serving the Communist Party of China, who essentially controls everything over there. That's how this can
00:33:34.720
all easily play out. And you're seeing what I like to call canaries in the coal mine already. You're
00:33:42.000
starting to see this already. Hollywood caters to China already. They change their movie advertisements.
00:33:49.720
They alter movies. They do all sorts of things to make the Chinese government happy. We saw earlier
00:33:55.080
this year, John Cena, an actor, apologize for offending China. LeBron James, the NBA.
00:34:02.860
I think John Cena just said something about Taiwan. Right. I'm pretty sure that was. Yeah.
00:34:09.360
Yeah. In passing, he said, Taiwan, we treated Taiwan as if it were a country and sort of in passing.
00:34:14.580
And this so angered the Communist Party of China that they demanded that he change. And he immediately
00:34:21.040
bowed down to it. Again, the NBA, LeBron James, all of these people, similar circumstances have
00:34:27.760
happened with them where they've already done this. The head of Nike has recently come out and
00:34:32.060
basically said that our values align perfectly, or not perfectly, but our values align with China's
00:34:39.460
values. I mean, this is already starting to happen. The reason they're doing it is because
00:34:45.000
China's got the money. They know that. If our system collapses because we're printing ourselves
00:34:51.160
into oblivion and just spending reckless amounts of money, and I think that it will inevitably happen.
00:34:56.440
The elites don't. But I think that it will happen. Then China will become more powerful than ever and
00:35:03.420
will be able to use that money to force our corporations and our businesses to go along with
00:35:08.900
whatever China wants because they're going to be the ones with the real wealth. So what will the world
00:35:13.300
look like? This might sound to a lot of people like, well, how could this ever happen? Why would America ever
00:35:18.800
do what China wants? I think people need to understand the world has been doing what America
00:35:24.220
wants for a very, very long time. So all we're doing is flipping the script here. And instead of people
00:35:31.800
having to do what America wants, instead of Americans making movies and creating corporate culture and
00:35:38.260
exporting it to the world, China will do the same thing. They'll step in that role and then we will be
00:35:44.220
beholden to them. They have a lot more people than us. They're extremely authoritarian. The culture
00:35:51.480
there is very, very different than the culture here. They're much more willing to live in an
00:35:56.060
authoritarian society. And over time, those gaps are only going to get bigger with population and
00:36:02.460
wealth and all of that other stuff. I think we are on a path to lose this battle with China and for
00:36:09.080
China to be able to use the infrastructure we're building now to control our society. And the worst
00:36:15.980
part of it is, if I'm wrong and China can't beat our elites, then our elites will be in charge of
00:36:22.260
society. So if we don't stop this movement of woke corporatism and cronyism and massive printing of
00:36:31.700
money and all of these things that are happening, if we don't stop that, individual people are going to
00:36:37.760
lose all of their freedom, either to the elites or to China or to both. But it's going to happen.
00:36:44.340
Yes. And I want to ask you more about that, how we how we stop that. But I first want to ask you
00:36:50.820
about how a couple other things play into everything we're talking about. Well, first, let me say that
00:36:54.880
we've talked about on this show before that there's always going to be a world superpower.
00:36:59.140
Like you've heard a lot over the especially the past year and a half, people who, you know,
00:37:03.040
read Howard's End, a people's history of America, and they think that they really know that America
00:37:09.300
is this bad, awful place. And they're actually OK with America not being the great superpower
00:37:14.360
anymore because America doesn't deserve it because we're so racist and awful. And actually,
00:37:18.700
you saw this a lot in Barack Obama's presidency. Even if the Great Reset wasn't something that was
00:37:24.120
necessarily prevalent when Barack Obama took office, I do think that the whole apology tour,
00:37:30.800
the whole idea that America really has never been that great. America really, really isn't,
00:37:37.320
you know, this city on a hill that we need to that the rest of the world needs to follow.
00:37:42.640
That started a long time ago. That really started. Well, in academia, it started decades ago. But I think
00:37:49.920
in the presidency, it kind of started under Barack Obama. And a lot of what we're seeing right now,
00:37:54.660
even with, you know, it might sound crazy to connect this, but even what we're seeing with
00:37:58.920
critical race theory and what's being taught in public schools and what's being taught in colleges,
00:38:03.660
this what I think is a completely erroneous look at the United States as just this pervasively evil
00:38:11.920
power both here and abroad that has never been good, never been for justice, never been for true
00:38:16.940
liberty, never been for truth. All of that, that self-loathing that I think has been imported
00:38:22.440
by communist China and maybe some, you know, other foreign regimes and is also just kind of
00:38:28.200
burgeoned here organically. I think that that plays into all of this because if you've got a people that
00:38:33.660
doesn't even really believe in liberty anymore, you don't even really believe in the ideals on which
00:38:38.200
we are founded, and you actually buy into this idea that, you know, Western civilization really isn't
00:38:43.760
all that great, then you're going to be much less resistant to what's coming, especially,
00:38:50.220
and we see that especially right now with people being willing to say, you know, mandatory vaccine
00:38:56.100
passports and all that. People are so willing to exchange all of their liberty for a little bit of
00:39:01.960
temporary safety. And I think that that is accelerating this transformation of society. Do you agree with
00:39:11.720
that? Yeah, without a doubt. There's no doubt at all. One of the most interesting things about what's
00:39:18.080
happened over the past few decades in America is that the left, in an effort to try to create this
00:39:25.720
fundamental transformation, has attempted to destroy basically every part of our existing system and
00:39:34.480
undermine American history and undermine all of the fundamental values that have made this country so
00:39:40.680
great for so long. That's all been part of the process, as you just beautifully laid out. There's
00:39:45.420
no doubt about that whatsoever. What's interesting about that is they're so eager to burn the system
00:39:50.580
down. Yeah. But there's no clear plan for what we replace it with after the fact. Even the people on
00:39:58.500
the left all disagree with each other about what that world should look like. In other words, there are
00:40:06.000
lots of left-wing feminists who don't agree with a lot of what the LGBTQ plus community wants to do,
00:40:14.460
right? There are people who are sympathetic to radical Islam on the left. How does that fit in
00:40:21.740
with radical feminism on the left? None of this makes any sense. It's the schizophrenia of the left.
00:40:28.900
And they have no objective moral standard upon which to base their ideology. They have no way of knowing
00:40:37.240
what really is true and what really isn't true. What is a right and what really isn't right? Because
00:40:42.660
they essentially have rejected the foundations of Western civilization, meaning Judeo-Christianity
00:40:48.860
essentially, and the principles that have come from that, to the point where it just becomes an
00:40:53.780
argument with really no end. Yeah. And so while, but what's crazy about it is for whatever reason
00:41:00.440
that they believe in radical feminism or Black Lives Matters, or you name whatever the cause du jour is
00:41:06.400
on the left, whatever that is, in the East, they don't believe in any of them. No, they don't.
00:41:12.460
They don't believe in any of them. And neither do the elites, honestly. All of these people that are
00:41:17.780
giving these ESG scores, they might say that they do. But I think that that is, that's betrayed by
00:41:23.780
their allegiance to China. If they really cared about any of that, do you think that they would
00:41:26.940
be partnering with the regime that is colonizing Africa and has a million Muslims in a concentration
00:41:32.020
camp? Of course not. So they don't really care about that either. It's always about power. It's
00:41:36.380
always about more control. Those ESG scores, I think, allows them to do that in a way that seems
00:41:41.680
virtuous enough, not even just for the left in America, but for most Americans that view themselves as
00:41:47.360
tolerant, that they're just willing to go along with it. And tolerance, while it can be a beautiful
00:41:52.440
thing, especially when you have people that all have the same basic worldview and basic values,
00:41:58.300
it can also end up being, it can also end up being a bad thing because you're so tolerant,
00:42:06.480
so open-minded to anything that you are unable, as you were saying, to actually be able to distinguish
00:42:13.060
between virtue and virtue signaling or the truth and a lie. And we certainly see that when it comes
00:42:20.180
to, especially what kids today are learning and the confusion around sex and gender and morality
00:42:28.000
and reality, how postmodernism has really just kind of taken over. And I think that that plays into all
00:42:35.460
of this too, not just the self-loathing that comes from things like CRT and all of that, but also the
00:42:42.160
confusion that I think is wrought through progressive ideologies and postmodernism, rejecting what we know
00:42:50.620
about human nature, what we know about biology, what we know about public safety, for example,
00:42:56.460
the defunding the police, all of it just works together to destroy America from the inside so that
00:43:02.940
when the outside comes in, it's a lot easier to take us down. That's what I kind of see happening.
00:43:08.360
Yeah, I think there's no doubt about it whatsoever. And there are a lot of people on the left who
00:43:12.340
believe, who are, you talked about trading a little bit of, they're trading your freedom for a little
00:43:17.340
bit of security. What the left is doing is they're trading their entire future, the entire future of
00:43:23.620
America, including their own future and their own ideas and their own freedoms for a little bit of
00:43:28.760
wokeism. When in reality, what's going to happen is the system that they're allowing to exist, or in
00:43:34.260
some cases building and contributing to, is going to be eventually, if the dollar collapses, if the
00:43:42.480
United States is no longer the world's most powerful country, it's going to be taken over by people who
00:43:47.000
believe none of the things that these people believe. And as you said, you know, do you really
00:43:52.100
think the people who are colonizing Africa care about Black Lives Matters? No. Have you seen some of the
00:43:57.520
racist commercials that exist in China about African-Americans? I mean, these things are,
00:44:02.400
the culture there is totally different. And they are much more tolerant over there about
00:44:08.260
authoritarianism. The history of China, the history of the East is a battle of various kinds of
00:44:14.060
authoritarianism. That's all it is. They don't understand individual liberty the way we understand
00:44:20.100
individual liberty. And if we haven't learned our lesson from engaging in the West with the Middle East,
00:44:26.540
for example, where we've tried to nation build and we've tried to do all these things and get people
00:44:31.460
to adopt individual liberty, when in a lot of cases, depending on the place you're talking about,
00:44:36.880
those people didn't want that. They didn't believe in it. They had a religion that didn't allow for it
00:44:41.980
in some cases. And so if we're not, if we haven't learned our lesson from that, then we are going to
00:44:48.360
be in a huge, huge crisis at some point in the very near future, because we cannot just say to
00:44:54.540
ourselves, well, you know what, we're America and we're always going to be the most powerful
00:44:58.660
country in the world. And no one's ever going to pose any sort of threat to us. All of the evidence
00:45:03.560
suggests that we are on the road to losing that place and not being the global superpower. All the
00:45:09.200
evidence suggests that and throughout the history of world civilization, one empire after another has
00:45:15.060
fallen and now become essentially irrelevant. It can easily happen to us and it might take a little
00:45:21.220
bit longer. I don't know when it's going to happen, but if we don't change, if we don't change directions
00:45:27.280
now, if we don't get off this road we're on now, I am certain it is going to happen to us. Just given
00:45:33.340
enough time. And people on the progressive left, there are people who are outspoken about just not
00:45:48.520
liking America and they think, OK, well, it's fine that we're not the world superpower. You have no idea
00:45:54.000
what you are talking about, because if it's not us, it's going to be China. And as you've already laid
00:46:00.260
out so perfectly, they don't have the same values. They don't care about transgender stuff.
00:46:03.820
They don't care about Black Lives Matter. They don't care about critical race theory. They don't
00:46:06.640
care about equity. Certainly don't care about equity. They don't care about equality. They
00:46:10.760
certainly don't believe in free speech or freedom of religion. They don't believe in any of the things
00:46:15.940
that even people on the left in America still hold dear, even if they say that they don't like the
00:46:20.600
country. That's why I just don't have any tolerance for. I mean, yes, I do believe that we should talk
00:46:25.480
about the bad things that America has done. We should talk about injustice. That's one beautiful thing of
00:46:29.620
living in a free country, unlike China, where they try to cover up the bad things of their past and
00:46:33.980
present. We can talk about them openly and try to fix them. I think that's a beautiful thing about
00:46:38.040
America. So I'm fine with talking about all that. Kids should learn about slavery and all and Jim
00:46:43.280
Crow and all the terrible things that America has done. But people who try to delegitimize America
00:46:48.820
altogether by saying, well, we live on stolen land or America was really founded on white supremacy.
00:46:55.700
Like, do you know the history of the world? Do you know the history of every single country that
00:47:00.340
has ever lived that has been littered with way worse stuff even than the United States? I'm not
00:47:06.460
saying that that doesn't make some of the things that we have done bad. But I am saying that we need
00:47:11.940
to realize that, as you said, the entire world is basically a story of competing oppressors and the
00:47:18.980
oppressed. It's a story of competing tribes. It's a story of competing dictators, competing tyrants.
00:47:25.200
It's a story of bloodshed. It's a story of a boot stamping on people's faces forever until the
00:47:33.600
West and more specifically the United States. So do we have a lot of flaws? Yes, we do. But people who
00:47:40.880
just refuse to see that we are the exception and that it's good for us to be the world superpower and
00:47:47.520
not China, I just don't have any tolerance for that anymore because I know too much. And like you said,
00:47:52.400
we see where this is going. It's terrifying. It's not going to be a good world if America is not
00:47:59.760
the strongest. You talk about turning this around. Well, it seems like it feels like from hearing what
00:48:06.520
you're saying that we're totally powerless to do that. Why do they care about what you and I say?
00:48:10.100
They've got all the money and the capital and power in the world. How do we turn this around?
00:48:13.680
So this is going to be a little bit scary, what I'm about to say, but I'm going to be honest.
00:48:21.740
I think that the only hope we have to turn things around is to take advantage of a very small window
00:48:28.340
of time that we have right now where the system is not yet totally completely in place. Once the
00:48:34.300
system is totally and completely in place and there are clear international ESG standards and the money
00:48:40.900
is still flowing in and all of this, there is not going to be any way to turn this around.
00:48:45.640
It's not going to be possible. The only way to stop this in America, it's not possible to stop it
00:48:50.620
in Europe. I think it is a total done deal. In fact, the European Union earlier this year,
00:48:55.900
the European parliament, which is part of the European Union, voted to make a mandatory ESG system.
00:49:02.820
And if the European commission approves of this and they have to formally propose it and approve it,
00:49:08.240
which is expected to happen later this year and potentially early next year, then it is going to
00:49:13.540
become the law in the European Union that you have ESG standards and that companies that don't
00:49:19.260
comply with those ESG standards will get punished. And it's not just the companies in the European
00:49:24.000
Union. It's every company in the value chain for those companies. So any company that does business
00:49:30.100
with those companies, whether they're in the European Union or not, has to also go along with this ESG
00:49:34.700
system. So this is already happening in Europe. I don't think it's possible to save them at this
00:49:40.400
point in time. The only chance we have in America, because we're just a little bit behind Europe on
00:49:44.920
all of these things, is to get politicians in place who are going to make rules and regulations
00:49:51.140
that prevent these financial institutions from engaging in this whole crony system and from stopping
00:49:58.760
all of this rampant money printing from the Fed and the funneling of this money printing into these
00:50:04.040
elites and coffers and financial institutions that are willing to impose this ESG system that want to
00:50:09.900
impose it. That's the only thing that we can do. And so between now and the time that we put people
00:50:16.420
in place that will do that, hopefully, because Joe Biden and Democrats are not going to do it.
00:50:23.160
No, they're totally part of it. Even I'm just thinking about H.R. 1 federalizing elections to
00:50:28.380
make sure that no one can get put in place that will stop this kind of thing. And I don't think
00:50:34.180
that every single Democrat is consciously a part of it. I think that they genuinely think that they
00:50:38.820
are doing good for society and all that. I don't think that AOC and Cori Bush, you know, by having
00:50:44.860
their own private security, but advocating for defunding the police for irregular folk, I don't I don't
00:50:49.760
think that they are thinking about the Great Reset, but they are absolutely playing into it.
00:50:56.700
And by the way, it's not just Democrats. Don't you think that there are some Republicans that are
00:51:00.440
responsible for this kind of stuff, especially the Republicans that have their only policy has been
00:51:08.980
Without without a doubt, there's no doubt about it whatsoever that Republicans have
00:51:13.460
completely played into this. This is not a Republican Democrat thing. This is not a
00:51:20.640
conservative liberal thing. You could be a socialist and not think that the global institution should be
00:51:26.420
making remaking society and in charge of everything. This is an elites versus everybody else kind of
00:51:32.720
thing. And there are elites in the Republican Party, just like there are elites in the Democrat Party
00:51:37.660
who are involved in all of this. Joe Biden and his administration is absolutely big supporters of
00:51:44.500
this. And the proof of that is John Kerry is an open supporter of the Great Reset. He's actually come
00:51:49.940
right out and said that he supports the Great Reset. And in November, after the presidential election was
00:51:54.420
over, John Kerry went to an event at the World Economic Forum. I think it was virtual. And they asked him,
00:52:00.500
the president of the World Economic Forum asked him about the Great Reset in America. And John Kerry
00:52:05.940
and asked if they were asking too much of Joe Biden to to, you know, create this Great Reset in America
00:52:11.960
really quickly. And John Kerry said, you're not asking too much of Joe Biden. The Great Reset is
00:52:17.760
going to happen and it's going to happen faster than anyone realizes, when with greater intensity
00:52:24.160
than anyone realizes. That's what John Kerry said when he was asked specifically about Joe Biden and the
00:52:29.160
Great Reset. And now John Kerry is in charge of climate policy for the White House. And he's in the
00:52:35.400
White House making these policies that are right in line with the Great Reset. Climate policy is
00:52:41.360
another one. They're part of it. Climate policy is another one. It is a John Kerry does not care
00:52:47.160
about the freaking climate. He would not be he would not be jetting about in his private jet.
00:52:54.240
Barack Obama would not have a house in Martha's Vineyard if we were really worried about the world
00:53:01.200
being ruined by by climate change. But they have fear mongered this so much that I think especially
00:53:07.040
the younger generation sees anything done in at least ostensibly to help climate change as good.
00:53:14.580
John Kerry doesn't care about this. All of these issues that the people at the top say that they
00:53:18.940
care about, they don't really care about. They don't care about. And I just think the people on the right
00:53:24.520
and the left are so quick to just kind of give in to every kind of social and political change that
00:53:29.440
happens in the name of equity and compassion and empathy and all of that without realizing it's
00:53:34.460
all about empowering people who don't care about your liberty. They don't care about your well-being.
00:53:39.740
And you also see how possibly policies that advocate for the breakdown of the family,
00:53:45.180
the loss of parental rights, policies that go after religious liberty, that go after religion in
00:53:49.480
general. I mean, always the history of dictatorships, especially in the 20th century,
00:53:54.240
has been going after the family unit and going after religion, going after patriotism,
00:53:59.840
definitely. These are values that really, they kind of stave off government encroachment because
00:54:07.260
if people are getting their values and they're getting their provision, they're getting their
00:54:10.720
security from a unit and institution that is not the government that controls them, well, that's a
00:54:16.760
problem for a government that does want to control you. And so it's all playing together.
00:54:22.960
And I'm kind of realizing all of this and it's super scary. And I don't really, I don't, I mean,
00:54:29.380
I don't know what to do about it. I know we put people in power, but what, I don't know what to do
00:54:33.620
on a daily basis. And I don't want people to leave feeling hopeless.
00:54:37.660
Yeah. I think that the best thing that people could do right now is, is to talk about it with
00:54:43.660
other people in a relatable way. And to start with people who are their friends and their family
00:54:48.860
members who are most likely to listen to them. And, and the reason I say that is because until
00:54:53.400
the system fully goes into place, there is, there is some pressure that can be put on these big
00:54:59.560
corporations, these big banks and others to avoid talking about this. Uh, you know, I, I know for a
00:55:07.100
fact, cause I've been working with, with Glenn, with Glenn Beck on a, on a book about the great reset for
00:55:11.260
like over a year now. And, uh, what some of the, there's been times where he and I have talked about
00:55:16.260
certain banking institutions on the air and how they're buying into this ESG system and how they're
00:55:21.140
going to use it to impose their will on other people. And we've had banks, big multi-billion dollar
00:55:28.680
banks, some of the biggest financial institutions in the world contact Glenn's people and say, uh, I can't
00:55:34.640
say, okay, cause we promised we wouldn't, but top five banks in the America talk to Glenn's people
00:55:41.780
and say, you know, you, you shouldn't talk about this. You're getting it all wrong. And then when we
00:55:47.200
would ask, well, what did we get wrong? They would say, well, you know, you're not getting the facts
00:55:50.660
wrong, but you know, all these things. They cared. They cared that you said something. They cared. And
00:55:55.560
that's the point. So they are still afraid that they're trying to, it's like, they're trying to rob a
00:56:00.940
bank. And the last thing you want to do if you're trying to rob a bank is have people on the
00:56:04.240
street say, Hey, is that guy trying to rob a bank? That's not what you want. What you want is just
00:56:08.420
get out. And that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to get out with the money as fast
00:56:11.820
as they possibly can. So if we can expose it, we might be able to slow it down long enough to get
00:56:16.700
politicians in place who will hopefully do the right thing. But it starts with slowing the process
00:56:22.360
down between now and the upcoming elections. Yeah. And all these little things matter. You don't
00:56:28.260
necessarily have to have a politician who every day is talking about the great reset, but all the
00:56:33.260
things that stand in the way of those elites doing what they want to do, everything that preserves
00:56:40.300
liberty and the family unit and religious liberty, all these things, even though they might not seem
00:56:44.680
like they have something to do with that great grand reset that might seem far off to people, but all
00:56:49.940
these things actually really do matter. And there's a couple other things I just want to ask you if
00:56:54.240
it's connected at all to this, or at least will be used to be connected to all of this. One is vaccine
00:56:59.900
passports. People, you know, are really nervous about that, that basically everyone is going to
00:57:05.300
have to have this app on their phone showing verification of vaccines. And we're not even
00:57:09.380
talking about your stance on vaccines, but vaccine passports. Does that play into this and just the
00:57:15.560
hopes of limiting people's freedom? Yeah, I think that vaccine passports are incredibly dangerous,
00:57:24.040
not because of the vaccine passport itself, but because, again, it's infrastructure that you're
00:57:30.400
building that you can use for other things in the future. And that's what all of this movement is all
00:57:37.020
about. It's about using technology and modern finance and money printing and other and regulations
00:57:42.500
to create an infrastructure that can then be expanded upon to use for other things. So if you can require
00:57:49.640
people to have an app that shows that you've been vaccinated, why can't you require people to have an app
00:57:56.120
that serves very similar function for things that have nothing to do with vaccinations, but maybe just
00:58:01.080
being healthy, maybe you can't go to a fast food restaurant, unless you have an, you know, permission on
00:58:08.680
your app that you've been exercising three times a week, you know, why can't they do things like that? In the
00:58:13.880
United Kingdom, they actually have health apps that are designed to try to encourage people to live a
00:58:18.980
healthier lifestyle that's rolled out by the NHS, the government health service over there. I mean,
00:58:25.240
these kinds of things can easily become authoritarian. And so do we want to wait for them to become
00:58:31.260
authoritarian before we oppose them? No, because by then it's too late. It's almost impossible to get
00:58:36.500
rid of them. You got to kill it before it becomes a huge problem. Why take the risk? We don't need
00:58:42.080
vaccine passports. Not really. So why take the risk that it poses to our individual rights? We have
00:58:48.660
to oppose all of these kinds of things in every way that we possibly can so that we can slow this
00:58:54.020
train down long enough to put people in place who will take it seriously and hopefully reverse it.
00:59:00.180
Yeah. Now your Twitter profile says that you are a libertarian federalist. When I hear libertarian,
00:59:07.100
I think just small government, but it seems like you're calling for it. I would be calling for
00:59:11.440
the federal government to step in in some of these areas and say, no, no, no, no, we're not going this
00:59:17.320
direction. What do you think? Well, I think what's interesting about this is that there are a lot of
00:59:23.340
libertarians who would argue that we should just let corporations do whatever they want, let banks do
00:59:28.360
whatever they want, because corporations and banks, they're private institutions. But the thing is,
00:59:34.220
they're not private institutions, not really, not in a truly free market sense. They are creations of
00:59:40.020
government. Corporations have different laws. They have different regulations. They pay different
00:59:45.580
taxes. They are literally an invention of the federal government. You file paperwork in states
00:59:51.500
and in and with the federal government to some extent to create new corporations and to pay certain
00:59:57.000
tax rates and to have limited liability so that you can't be punished for the things that your
01:00:01.100
businesses do. This isn't the same thing as some person who's a farmer that owns their own land and
01:00:06.940
or has a little restaurant or coffee shop or something that they own outright. That's not what we're
01:00:11.540
talking about here. We're talking about institutions who are essentially quasi-government or
01:00:18.420
government-sanctioned, at the very least, institutions with all kinds of special benefits
01:00:23.680
that they're surviving on and thriving on and becoming super rich on. Social media companies is a great
01:00:30.920
example of this. The idea that social media companies, these big gigantic corporations, should have the ability
01:00:36.300
to silence people based on their speech because they don't like their speech. We're not talking
01:00:41.080
about pornography or things like that. We're just talking about people who say things that they don't
01:00:45.340
like. Saying a man is a man. Yeah, exactly. Something you know about. I mean, the idea that that is
01:00:51.620
perfectly fine because they're a private institution and they have rights is completely nonsensical.
01:00:58.140
The only reason they are allowed to exist, the only reason that Twitter or Facebook exists,
01:01:04.300
is because we have special federal laws that allow them to escape liability when people go
01:01:09.620
on their platforms and say things that are obviously wrong. You can't go to Twitter and
01:01:14.500
sue Twitter for libel and slander and things like that because people on Twitter are saying things
01:01:20.320
that are factually incorrect about you. That's because we have special laws that allow these
01:01:25.140
companies to exist. Without those special laws from the federal government, these companies could not
01:01:30.780
exist. So they have all made billions and billions and billions of dollars off of the federal government
01:01:36.800
providing them with special protections. And then we're told they can do whatever they want.
01:01:41.200
They can silence anyone they want. Well, then what's to stop the federal government from,
01:01:45.280
in effect, creating a private institution that, I don't know, runs the power in society and then just
01:01:52.340
cuts off electricity from anybody who doesn't agree with them about, you know, whatever it happens to be.
01:01:57.760
I mean, that's fascism. That's fascism. And the very people who call themselves anti-fascist and think
01:02:06.200
that everyone on the right is fascist, they don't understand how actually, I mean, yes, Republican
01:02:11.380
politicians, as we've already noted, definitely play into this as well. But these woke corporations
01:02:17.560
are working together with the Democratic Party and the Democrats that are in power right now to be able to
01:02:23.040
not just secure their power even more, but also put these very onerous burdens on the public. And
01:02:29.540
you're, yes, sure, Twitter can't throw you into jail. And so it's not technically a violation of
01:02:34.540
the First Amendment, but it is creating a particular culture, a very self-censorious culture in which
01:02:41.860
really the principles of free speech and of liberty in general aren't really thriving. And I appreciate
01:02:47.660
what you said that libertarians, I think, in their truest sense, recognize that any concentration
01:02:53.140
of power, any abuse of power, whether it's in corporations or the government, is something that
01:02:58.080
we should be resisting. It's not, OK, only if they are an elected official. All kinds of abuses of power
01:03:05.740
matter because they affect people's lives. Last thing I think I want to ask you about,
01:03:11.600
last thing, do you have an opinion on Bitcoin, cryptocurrency, you know, as a hedge against
01:03:19.360
the collapse of the dollar? Like, how do you think that plays into this? I'm sure some people are
01:03:23.260
wondering that. Yeah, sure. So in full transparency, I do own some Bitcoin and I do own some cryptocurrencies.
01:03:31.800
I think that it's very possible that the dollar is going to collapse. And it's not entirely clear
01:03:39.460
when that happens what the best way is to hedge against the dollar collapsing. There are people
01:03:45.600
that believe that you should buy gold. There are people who believe that you should buy cryptocurrencies.
01:03:49.840
There are people who believe that you should buy property. I personally think that if I had lots
01:03:54.920
and lots of money, I'd put it in everything. That's a hard asset. I'd put it in including in cryptocurrency,
01:04:00.160
which is kind of a hard asset, because I believe the existing system is going to collapse.
01:04:06.080
And unless you diversify your wealth, and I'm not a financial advisor or anything like that. But
01:04:11.460
unless you diversify your wealth, you're putting yourself in a very, very risky situation. Because
01:04:17.920
at the end of the day, the big gigantic financial institutions, the big corporations, foreign countries,
01:04:24.500
they are putting their money in gold, they're putting their money in silver, they're putting their
01:04:28.220
money in mines, they're putting money in farms. As you said, Bill Gates, one of the richest people in
01:04:32.340
the world, he's buying up massive amounts of farmland, they're buying hard assets, including
01:04:37.520
cryptocurrency. And so I think that if they're doing that, it's probably a good idea for regular
01:04:42.680
people to do it, too, because there's a really good chance that they know something that we don't
01:04:47.420
know. Yeah. And I think the more that I've learned about this whole thing, the more confident I am that
01:04:51.900
eventually the dollar is going to collapse. And I don't want to be left penniless when that happens.
01:04:57.900
Yeah. Okay, actually, a couple more things. Eviction moratorium. Do you think that that is
01:05:04.520
a purposeful attack on property owners and on, you know, middle working class landlords in the same
01:05:15.280
way that, you know, companies like BlackRock buying these properties, turning them to rental property
01:05:20.900
is actually preventing the working class from, you know, creating equity and wealth? Do you think
01:05:26.040
that those things are working together? Are they similar? It is impossible to know for sure
01:05:33.580
whether it's deliberately being put into place in order to help further this whole concentration of
01:05:41.380
property in the hands of corporations. But what I do know is this, it is helping that whole thing.
01:05:46.580
There's no doubt about it whatsoever. And when Joe Biden, you know, extends the eviction moratorium
01:05:52.540
in certain areas. The fact that we had an eviction moratorium in the first place, that was without a
01:05:58.960
doubt screwing over landlords who are just regular people who owned a second property or a third
01:06:05.180
property or something like that. And we're using renting it out. That's 70% of landlords in the
01:06:09.900
United States, by the way, 70% of rental properties are owned by landlords with just one or two properties
01:06:15.320
that's just trying to feed their families. It's not some, you know, rich miserly guy at the head of a
01:06:20.500
corporation. They're just regular working class people.
01:06:23.940
Right. And the corporations, they can absorb that loss for a little while. That's not a problem for
01:06:29.280
them. They can say, OK, yeah, some people won't pay our rent. And yeah, we'll lose money this quarter,
01:06:33.620
maybe next quarter, maybe the quarter after that. But that's OK. Eventually, this property is going to
01:06:38.000
be worth lots of money. Eventually, we're going to get our money back. And we don't have to worry about
01:06:42.380
any of this. And we also know that if we really need money, if we ever really start running out of
01:06:47.000
money, we could just go to the banks and they're going to give us lots of money for low interest
01:06:50.500
rates. So it doesn't really matter. Regular people who are landlords who own these properties and are
01:06:55.900
just trying to survive and use them as income, those people can't do that. They just lose their
01:07:01.720
property. They just lose the value of their homes. They just end up getting screwed as a result of this.
01:07:07.200
So whether this is an intentional plan, I don't know. Unlike some of the other stuff we talked about
01:07:12.480
before, I've never heard anyone talk about it in a way that would make it sound like it's
01:07:16.960
intentional. But if it isn't intentional, it's having the exact same effect as if it were
01:07:22.100
intentional. So in a way, it almost doesn't matter. Right. Just quickly, just to name another
01:07:28.360
boogeyman in addition to Bill Gates, who, as I say, if you don't want to be at the center of all
01:07:34.460
these conspiracy theories, not that this is, but other conspiracy theories, then don't be so sketchy.
01:07:39.280
Don't be so sketchy. He's so sketchy. And the same thing with George Soros. People say that he's a
01:07:44.740
right-wing boogeyman. The dude is sketchy. He's doing a lot of stuff. Does he have anything to do
01:07:49.320
with any of the things that we've been talking about? Yeah, without a doubt. George Soros is
01:07:54.540
actually famous for hanging out in Davos. He hosts a really elaborate dinner party there every year
01:08:00.660
where it's like the most elite event that you could possibly get into. Only the elites of the elites
01:08:05.480
are allowed to do that. George Soros is also, strangely, one of the primary funders of the
01:08:12.420
Marxist left here in the United States who supposedly want to eat the rich. The whole Black Lives Matters
01:08:18.960
movement, the organization itself, which is openly calling for the destruction of the family, which
01:08:24.260
is called for Marxism and the collective ownership of property, all the things that you would think the
01:08:29.100
Davos people wouldn't like, they are owned by the Tides Foundation. And one of the largest donors to
01:08:36.060
the Tides Foundation is George Soros. So George Soros is hanging out with the Davos people while
01:08:42.080
funding Marxists in the streets at the same time. It makes you think that he's probably got a plan here.
01:08:48.900
It's create lots of chaos, take advantage of that chaos through these other policies. So yeah,
01:08:54.740
absolutely George Soros and people like him, I think are involved. And also helping the DAs across
01:09:00.780
the country, progressive DAs across the country that are put in place that are for defunding the
01:09:04.900
police, they're for bail reform, they're for so-called criminal justice reform that really just ends up
01:09:10.360
putting murders, violent criminals back into the streets, committing more crime, creating chaos and
01:09:15.420
disarray. And just the destruction of some of America's most beautiful cities have now really
01:09:21.060
spiraled out of control. It's not just because of George Soros, it's also just because of policies
01:09:26.240
independent of him. But certainly his organization has funded the campaigns of a lot of the people who
01:09:33.260
are making these policies and making sure that America's greatest and most powerful and most
01:09:38.340
profitable cities are destroyed by crime and homelessness and public drug use and all of that.
01:09:45.040
And we're only, and it's such a distraction, not that COVID doesn't matter and that it's not real,
01:09:49.540
because it does. I know people who have been very seriously impacted by it. But you can see how
01:09:54.640
it's at the very least being used as an excuse to distract us from other very pressing, important
01:10:00.900
issues. And it's also being used as an excuse, of course, to accumulate power. And man, this is the
01:10:07.180
stuff of like, if you don't want people to go down the rabbit holes of conspiracy theories of thinking
01:10:12.860
the election was stolen and thinking that Joe Biden is really just a plant so that people
01:10:19.360
could elect this, you know, middle of the road, Joe, so all the great reset stuff could go on behind
01:10:25.060
the scenes. I mean, and or that coronavirus was purposely created and released from the lab to,
01:10:31.500
to, you know, wreak all of this destruction and chaos. I mean, I'm not saying that all that stuff is
01:10:38.060
true. I'm just saying I can see how people would get there based on what is absolutely true, right?
01:10:44.580
Yeah, without a doubt. It's really easy to go down that rabbit hole when you look at the money and
01:10:53.200
you look at how rich these people are getting and you look at the policies that they're putting in
01:10:57.120
place and you look at the quotes that they're saying, the mountain of direct quotes of them
01:11:01.180
talking about fundamentally transforming the world and pushing the reset button on the global economy.
01:11:06.880
And every country must participate, including China and the United States, including people like
01:11:12.480
Justin Trudeau, Justin Trudeau, nice guy, you know, not a radical. Of course he is. But he said that
01:11:19.760
outright. He said we need a great reset. Yeah. Oh, basically, the entire G7 has at one point or
01:11:25.800
another called directly for a great reset. The head of the United Nations, head of the International
01:11:30.540
Monetary Fund. These people are all these major institutions are openly talking this way.
01:11:35.920
And so, yeah, it's really easy to look at those things and say, well, geez, if they're doing this
01:11:41.340
and this is just the stuff we know that they're saying and this is just the stuff we know they're
01:11:44.840
spending money on and this is just the strategies we know about. What are the things we don't know
01:11:48.580
about? Right. And it's really easy to get lost in this because the truth is we don't know everything
01:11:54.220
they're doing and we never will know everything we're doing because people like you and I are not
01:11:58.640
invited to the dinner parties with George Soros in Davos, unfortunately. They're just we're not welcome
01:12:04.780
there. So we're never going to know all of the answers. But I don't need to know more than I
01:12:10.400
already know. What I already know makes it difficult to fall asleep at night. I don't want to know more
01:12:15.480
than this. Right. And just knowing what we know now is enough to it should be enough for people to be
01:12:22.020
concerned that we have to change directions or else we're totally screwed. Yeah. Wokeness is being
01:12:28.740
used as the vehicle to destroy the institutions in the West so the West can be, you know, minimized,
01:12:36.200
belittled, made small so that it will easily conform to either, like you said, the power of China or the
01:12:44.340
power of these elites. And once if we get there, which I pray to God that we don't, they're going
01:12:51.280
to abandon all of these woke values. And gosh, we haven't even talked about how the military and
01:12:57.860
the intelligence agencies in the United States are also being overtaken by that destructive,
01:13:02.120
divisive stuff, which will also help lead to our demise. So this has been a very positive, optimistic
01:13:07.580
episode. Thank you so much. If this doesn't red pill people, I don't know what will. How can people
01:13:14.220
support you, follow you and all that good stuff? Sure. They can go to stopping socialism dot com or follow
01:13:20.020
me on social media. Justin T. Haskins on just about everything. Facebook, socialist Twitter,
01:13:25.440
parlor, everything that you can think of. Okay. Thanks so much, Justin. Thanks, Allie.
01:13:34.840
All right. I promised that I would give you guys a little bit of encouragement after that. What did I
01:13:39.320
tell you? What did I tell you? That was a big conversation. I know, but I'm reminding you that
01:13:44.880
there is no power, um, that can thwart God's ultimate sovereign will. There is nothing that
01:13:50.940
can stop him from coming back and ruling in perfect justice and peace. There's nothing and no one that
01:13:56.380
can stop him from exacting, uh, perfect justice. He will destroy, uh, the wicked. He will destroy the
01:14:03.800
evildoers. So I'm going to, uh, read you just two segments, uh, one from Psalm two and one from Psalm
01:14:10.540
37 that I want you to take it and meditate on and realize, um, is the ultimate truth. That's bigger
01:14:17.440
than everything that we talked about today. Um, so first Psalm two, why do the nations rage and the
01:14:23.660
people's plot in vain? The Kings of the earth set themselves and the rulers take counsel together
01:14:29.080
against the Lord and against his anointed saying, let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their
01:14:35.200
cords from us. But he who sits in the heavens laughs, the Lord holds them in derision. Then he
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will speak to them in his wrath and terrify them in his fury saying, as for me, I have set my king on
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Zion, my holy hill. And so God is in charge. He laughs at the ones who think that they are in power.
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Um, he is holding the people who think that they are in charge in derision. And he realizes that they
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don't recognize that he is ultimately in control of everything. And then here are some segments from
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Psalm 37. My favorite Psalm is so calming to me and gives me so much peace. So Psalm 37, starting in
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verse one, fret, not yourself because of evil doers be not envious of wrongdoers for they will soon fade
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like the grass and wither like the green herb trust in the Lord and do good dwell in the land and
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befriend faithfulness, delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart.
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Commit your way to the Lord, trust in him, and he will act. He will bring forth your righteousness as
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the light and your justice as the noon day. Be still before the Lord, wait patiently for him,
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fret not yourself over the one who prospers in his way over the man who carries out evil devices.
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I could read this entire chapter. It's all relevant to what we were just, uh, talking about. Um,
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I would encourage you to read on it, to meditate on it, to pray about it, to receive it as, uh,
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true and remember God's work and what he is doing doesn't always make headlines. We don't see
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everything that God is doing, but he is the only one that is omniscient. He's the only one that's
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omnipotent. He's the only one that's omnipresent. Um, all human beings, even the most powerful and
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rich human beings, uh, even the most powerful corporations, they're just finite. There is no match for
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God. There's no match for God. And as, um, his children, we can rest in that. That doesn't mean
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that there won't be scary times. There won't be, uh, suffering that is upcoming because I think that
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we know that that's true, but we can trust in him. We can hope in him. And our responsibility is not
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just to sit on our hands and fret. Um, it is to obey him and to be bolder than ever in sharing the
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gospel and loving our neighbor as we love ourself. And again, speaking up for that, which we know
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is good and right and true. Um, that's all I've got for you today. Uh, I hope that it ended on an
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encouraging and empowering note for you guys. And I will see you back here tomorrow.