Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 14, 2021


Ep 488 ｜ Vaccine Mandates & Met Galas： Welcome to our Brave New World ｜ Guest： Justin Haskins


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.
00:00:11.400 Happy Tuesday.
00:00:12.360 Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
00:00:15.980 So today I am talking to Justin Haskins.
00:00:19.800 You know that name because he is the guy that we talked to about the Great Reset.
00:00:24.760 We're going to be talking a little bit about that today, but we're also going to be talking
00:00:28.600 about a few other things that the Biden administration has done, maybe that we haven't heard about
00:00:33.480 because there's been so much that has been going on over the past few weeks, but are
00:00:37.160 nevertheless very important policy issues that we have to care about that we need to
00:00:43.660 take note of.
00:00:45.340 We're also going to be talking about AOC at the Met Gala and her tax the rich dress that
00:00:52.200 she was wearing at this very elitist event.
00:00:56.060 And you'll hear my take on that, his take on that, how that actually fits into everything
00:01:00.340 else that we will be talking about.
00:01:03.140 But you're going to love this conversation.
00:01:05.080 My last conversation that I had with Justin about BlackRock and China and the Great Reset
00:01:09.220 and Bill Gates is the most listened to episode of Relatable that I've ever had.
00:01:16.260 And so if that tells you anything about how great this guest is and how much you will love
00:01:21.560 this conversation, just trust me, you're going to.
00:01:24.480 So without further ado, here's our friend, Justin Haskins.
00:01:32.340 Justin, thank you so much for joining us again.
00:01:35.840 I was just telling you before we turn the cameras on that our conversation about BlackRock
00:01:42.020 and Bill Gates in China is the most listened to episode of Relatable ever.
00:01:48.220 And we're coming up on 500 episodes.
00:01:50.500 I know.
00:01:50.880 I know.
00:01:51.220 It's incredible.
00:01:51.780 It is one of those things where it is just it's such an important issue that nobody talks
00:01:57.440 about that nobody talks about it.
00:01:58.780 People just started talking about it.
00:02:00.240 Then I really think it's going to gain lots of momentum.
00:02:03.720 And maybe we can actually stop some of this stuff that's been going on.
00:02:06.940 That's crazy.
00:02:07.600 So thank you for taking the time to actually talk with me at length about it.
00:02:10.960 Well, you've done all the legwork.
00:02:12.300 I think one reason why it's not really talked about and go back, by the way, if you haven't
00:02:17.140 listened to or watched that episode, we'll link it in the description to this episode
00:02:21.260 so you can go back and listen to it.
00:02:22.980 But one of the reasons why I think a lot of people don't talk about all of that stuff is
00:02:26.940 because it's too complicated.
00:02:28.560 It's just too much.
00:02:29.960 Like people and then they feel like they're getting sucked into some kind of conspiratorial
00:02:34.280 rabbit hole.
00:02:35.560 And I think it's also overwhelming.
00:02:36.920 It makes us feel so small and so powerless.
00:02:40.480 And that's why I think a lot of people, you know, they just won't even touch it.
00:02:45.400 Right.
00:02:45.560 But you're right.
00:02:46.080 I think if collectively there was more awareness about it and more pushing back against it,
00:02:51.900 then maybe, I don't know, maybe it'd make a difference.
00:02:54.080 No, that's the only way it'll make a difference.
00:02:56.620 I mean, the only way that this stops is if the people who are orchestrating all of this stuff,
00:03:02.340 who are working together, these are elites and banks.
00:03:04.760 And financial institutions, investment groups, and the government and elsewhere.
00:03:09.640 The only way this stops is if they get called out on it.
00:03:12.620 They're terrified of that.
00:03:14.260 Terrified.
00:03:14.780 Whenever anyone actually points this stuff out, they go nuts.
00:03:17.820 Yeah.
00:03:17.980 They go absolutely crazy because they know they're getting away with something.
00:03:21.600 Yeah.
00:03:21.860 And they know it's big.
00:03:22.900 Yeah.
00:03:23.120 They just, the only way it can be stopped is if everybody wakes up and realizes, wait a
00:03:27.640 minute, what is going on?
00:03:28.960 You guys are circulating trillions of dollars.
00:03:31.040 You're all getting rich.
00:03:32.020 We're losing all of our freedom.
00:03:33.300 Corporations are imposing all these rules on us.
00:03:35.820 Government's now imposing all these rules on us.
00:03:37.820 We have lockdowns.
00:03:38.720 We're destroying millions of small businesses.
00:03:41.480 Corporations are in control of everything.
00:03:43.260 The banks have all of this power.
00:03:45.360 We're debanking people.
00:03:46.940 We're deplatforming people.
00:03:48.100 We're throwing people off of social media.
00:03:49.680 We're silencing people.
00:03:50.440 This doesn't seem right to me.
00:03:52.640 And when you realize that it's all really part of the same plan, the same idea, then
00:03:57.880 it makes a lot more sense.
00:03:59.720 And they're just, like I said, deathly afraid that people figure out how to connect all those
00:04:04.140 dots.
00:04:04.660 And when we're talking about it, for those people who may not know, who haven't gone
00:04:08.440 back and listened to that episode yet, we're talking about the great reset.
00:04:12.620 Can you, I don't know if you can boil it down to a couple of sentences, but is there a way
00:04:17.660 to just kind of shortly encapsulate what you're talking about?
00:04:20.400 Yeah, yeah, sure.
00:04:21.220 So I think the easiest way to understand it is the great reset is a movement.
00:04:25.780 It's an idea that the great reset term is a branding that they gave it, the people who
00:04:31.240 are in charge of this who are promoting it.
00:04:32.800 And it's a movement amongst the people who are in the highest rungs of power all over
00:04:37.920 the world, from the World Economic Forum, and that's the group that does Davos every
00:04:44.420 year or so, from the United Nations, from various governments, from corporations, from
00:04:49.500 banks, et cetera.
00:04:50.280 They've all got together and they released this great reset plan.
00:04:53.980 And the plan is essentially to centralize power and control in the hands of the elites,
00:04:59.940 these people who made this plan.
00:05:01.480 And it's a pretty great plan.
00:05:02.720 And it's all being fueled by money that's being printed by central banks, both here in
00:05:08.520 the United States and elsewhere in Europe.
00:05:10.580 And the way that it's all going to work is we're going to funnel money into the parts
00:05:16.060 of the economy that are the quote unquote, you know, good parts of the economy and the
00:05:20.880 good companies, the people who agree to go along with our ideas, whether that's fighting
00:05:26.700 climate change and the Paris Climate Accords or, you know, reducing the amount of
00:05:31.160 pollution and, you know, in their supply chains or making sure you have the right ratio of
00:05:36.100 Hispanics to African-Americans at your company.
00:05:38.460 That's a real thing, by the way.
00:05:39.980 So this goes into that ESG score that we've talked about.
00:05:42.220 That's exactly right.
00:05:43.020 That's how they know who the good companies are and who the bad companies are.
00:05:46.180 They built this giant infrastructure called ESG, environmental, social and governance standards.
00:05:52.320 And major corporations all over the world have already adopted this.
00:05:55.700 More than 80 percent of the large corporations in America have this in place already.
00:06:00.040 In Europe, they're talking about making it the law that every corporation in the European
00:06:03.680 Union has to do this.
00:06:05.400 And so that's how they know who the good companies are and who the bad companies are and who to
00:06:09.520 funnel the money to and who to take money away from and who to impose regulations on and
00:06:13.760 who not.
00:06:14.320 And so that's that's the system.
00:06:16.340 It is already in the process of being rolled out.
00:06:19.160 This is not some like, well, this could happen someday in the future if we're not careful.
00:06:22.760 No, it's happening now.
00:06:24.520 It's already in place.
00:06:26.300 And, you know, when we did that podcast the last time about BlackRock and all of that,
00:06:30.360 I mean, we went into great detail about all of these things.
00:06:33.480 It is complicated.
00:06:35.120 That's they're banking on.
00:06:36.360 That's one of the reasons it's so successful, because you can't just explain it easily in
00:06:40.900 five minutes.
00:06:41.760 You got to actually dig into the details.
00:06:43.780 And, you know, that's what we did in our last conversation.
00:06:46.060 And that's why I think people liked it so much.
00:06:47.840 A lot of people are wondering if Biden's vaccine mandates, which, you know, we've already talked
00:06:56.360 about on this show, how I don't think that they're backed either constitutionally, logically
00:07:00.420 or scientifically.
00:07:01.860 I just don't think it makes a whole lot of sense.
00:07:03.820 I think he did a really bad job.
00:07:05.360 If his goal was to try to convince people to get the vaccine in his speech, I don't think
00:07:09.600 he accomplished that at all.
00:07:10.940 It was patronizing.
00:07:12.160 It was condescending.
00:07:13.120 It was creepy with his little whisper into the microphone.
00:07:18.120 But a lot of people are wondering if it's even more sinister than just, OK, he didn't
00:07:23.960 give a good speech or this is incompetence or he's not thinking clearly his administration
00:07:28.260 is making bad decisions.
00:07:29.400 Some people are wondering if there's maybe some malice behind it and they're maybe connecting
00:07:34.040 it to this whole Great Reset movement of trying to reshape the economy and all of our
00:07:40.020 systems to try to, you know, empower what you call these, you know, this group of elites,
00:07:46.460 but also to change the way basically we function as a society.
00:07:52.160 And one of the things that people are pointing to in this is not just the reshaping of the
00:07:57.060 economy, but what seems to be a destruction of our health care system as well.
00:08:02.760 And one of the things that I'm seeing people say is when Biden has threatened to take Medicare
00:08:10.540 away from hospitals or Medicare funding away from hospitals that don't vaccinate all of
00:08:16.820 their employees in the midst of a staff shortage that is actually leading to what we're seeing
00:08:22.900 in the overflow of ICUs where there are an abundance of beds in a lot of cases, but there aren't
00:08:29.620 enough staff to actually man those beds and people are quitting because of these vaccine
00:08:35.880 mandates.
00:08:36.660 You just wonder if this is just one of the examples of the Biden administration purposely
00:08:44.580 pushing policy that is meant and is bent towards destruction.
00:08:50.280 And then, you know, people ask the same question about Afghanistan.
00:08:53.640 You wouldn't have done that any differently if you wanted things to go poorly.
00:08:57.820 If you really wanted America to be embarrassed on the world stage.
00:09:01.620 Now we've heard Secretary Blinken said that we're giving $64 million to the Taliban.
00:09:09.000 So all these questions are circulating and asking, OK, is this malicious?
00:09:13.920 Is Biden playing a role in this great reset?
00:09:17.100 And part of that great reset is to weaken all of America's systems, economy, health care,
00:09:22.260 all of that.
00:09:23.520 What do you think?
00:09:24.560 Or is that just trying to fit things in that really don't fit?
00:09:26.900 Yeah, so I would argue and this is going to sound a little bit strange maybe to some
00:09:31.200 people, but I would argue almost everything that happens is in some way related to the
00:09:35.200 great reset policy wise policy.
00:09:37.580 Right.
00:09:38.060 Not everything in the universe.
00:09:39.420 But yes, everything that happens in terms of American policy and Western policy, really,
00:09:43.600 I think is related to the great reset because the whole purpose of it is to completely reshape
00:09:48.960 society.
00:09:49.860 I mean, that's their goal.
00:09:51.480 They've stated that very plainly.
00:09:53.220 They talked about how one of the things they want to do is not just push the reset button,
00:09:59.020 which is what the great reset alludes to on the entire economy, but on societies as a
00:10:03.480 whole to rewrite social contracts because existing social contracts aren't working to change all
00:10:08.780 of the institutions in society.
00:10:10.620 Explain what that means.
00:10:11.280 Explain what social contract theory is and why they want to change it.
00:10:15.700 Right.
00:10:15.880 Well, when John Kerry, for example, because you asked, does Joe Biden support the great
00:10:21.440 reset?
00:10:21.740 When John Kerry was openly advocating for the great reset prior to becoming part of the
00:10:26.500 Biden administration, he was saying that he talked about the social contract a lot,
00:10:31.740 how the social contract is breaking down.
00:10:33.860 Now, what does the social contract mean?
00:10:35.980 And what it means is that we as a people, the people, the public, we have a we've come
00:10:42.480 together to form a society and that society has rules.
00:10:47.260 We've put into place a government and rule of law and all of these things.
00:10:50.740 And different societies have sort of different social contracts where they've come together
00:10:55.160 and decided we're going to, for example, in the Middle East, there are Islamic societies
00:10:59.740 where the social contract is really built around the Koran and built around Sharia law
00:11:03.800 and stuff like that.
00:11:04.540 In Western civilization, historically, the social contract is grounded in Judeo-Christian ideas
00:11:10.080 that go back thousands of years.
00:11:12.380 Right.
00:11:12.960 But especially the past thousand years in the West, that's what the basis of our social
00:11:19.220 contract has been for all of Western modern Western civilization.
00:11:24.380 But what John Kerry and other elites believe is that this idea of individual rights being
00:11:30.440 the core centerpiece around the way society should be built, the way economics should work,
00:11:36.980 that that doesn't work anymore, that it's led to inequality and racism and all of these
00:11:42.300 horrible problems.
00:11:43.120 And so we have to rework our understanding of the obligations that we have as individuals
00:11:48.980 to each other, that institutions have to us and the responsibilities of government versus
00:11:55.200 the responsibilities of individuals and churches and other institutions.
00:11:58.840 We have to rework all of that because it doesn't work anymore.
00:12:01.520 And he would point to people rioting in the streets and burning down police stations and people
00:12:06.240 demanding for defunding the police and all of this as proof of the fact that the social contract
00:12:12.060 doesn't work anymore.
00:12:13.200 And his way of doing things is not full blown communism, socialism or something like that,
00:12:19.760 which is what a Bernie Sanders would argue we should switch to or a return to what we would
00:12:26.100 consider to be conservative values and sort of the founding principles of the United States.
00:12:32.260 He would say what we need is to move to a more progressive model where the elites are in charge
00:12:39.680 of more of society and that they build institutions that are better designed to provide the services
00:12:49.520 needed for people in that society and that we need to kind of take a backseat to nationalism.
00:12:56.420 Nationalism is not good.
00:12:57.740 We need to think internationally and individual rights are not necessarily always good.
00:13:02.980 They need to take a backseat to the good of the collective.
00:13:06.060 And who should be in charge of all of this?
00:13:07.940 Well, banks, financial institutions, government officials, et cetera.
00:13:13.340 And that's that's what they mean by rewriting social contracts.
00:13:16.980 Of course, for people who believe in individual rights, who believe that those individual rights
00:13:21.640 are inalienable, that they can't be taken away or destroyed.
00:13:25.560 This is really scary because, of course, elites abuse their power when they're given too much
00:13:30.420 of it.
00:13:31.060 And that's really what I think the Great Reset is all about.
00:13:35.140 If you're going to sum it all up into one big thing, what is it?
00:13:38.280 It is the centralization of power in the hands of elites here and around the world.
00:13:45.020 That's what it's all about.
00:13:46.120 It's about moving the power into the people into the hands of the elites, because if they
00:13:50.280 have the power and they can set up a system through ESG and financial institutions and other
00:13:55.360 things that they think is a more efficient, better way of distributing wealth and power
00:14:03.180 and everything to other people, that's how they would sell it, then we'll all be better
00:14:07.120 off if we could just give it to the right people.
00:14:09.740 And this idea has been around for over 100 years.
00:14:11.920 Right.
00:14:12.320 And in actuality, and Glenn Beck's talked about this a lot on his show, this plan, to a large
00:14:19.760 extent, has been in existence since at least in America, since at least the existence of
00:14:24.160 the progressive era, the progressive movement of the early 1900s, late 1800s, where they talked
00:14:29.580 about remaking society, rebuilding society, rewriting social contracts, giving more power
00:14:35.520 to the experts in society, putting administrative bureaucracies in charge of more of our society,
00:14:41.740 because that's the only way we can keep up with these European nations.
00:14:46.060 At the time, everyone thought, you know, the Nazis were, before they were the Nazis, everyone
00:14:50.820 thought this was going to be a great thing, that they were accomplishing all these amazing
00:14:54.600 feats, that fascism needed to have a counterpart.
00:14:58.740 And the United States needed to move more in that direction, because, you know, democracy and
00:15:03.660 individual rights that can slow things down and come up the works, right?
00:15:07.020 So this is what, ultimately, the Great Reset is all about.
00:15:10.420 It's about, instead of competing with, you know, Nazis in the 1930s, it's about competing
00:15:15.460 with China, and it's about competing with Russia and countries like that, who are able to just
00:15:21.420 build factories by bulldozing down people's apartment buildings whenever they feel like
00:15:25.380 it, or, you know, arbitrarily setting prices and wages and things like that whenever they
00:15:30.260 feel like it, or, you know, throwing people in prison because they're political dissenters
00:15:34.580 that don't have the right religion whenever they feel like it.
00:15:36.600 How do we compete with that in the United States?
00:15:38.300 They're so efficient over there.
00:15:39.800 Right.
00:15:40.000 These are the conversations that these elites are having in the West, and their answer is
00:15:44.000 this whole reworking of society through the Great Reset.
00:15:46.600 And if the goal is the reworking of society to kind of concentrate power in the hands of
00:16:02.660 the elites, one way that you have to do that is you have to kind of demonize the idea of
00:16:07.220 individual rights.
00:16:08.060 You certainly have to demonize the idea of getting your values, your protection, your provision
00:16:13.800 from anything other than the, I don't even know if the state is the right word, but some
00:16:19.020 higher power, which this group of elites thinks that they will one day, one day be.
00:16:24.840 And that means that you really have to weaken everything that the West and specifically the
00:16:29.600 United States was founded on.
00:16:31.300 You have to weaken all of the institutions where people go to get their values, to get their
00:16:36.820 protection, to get their sense of belonging and purpose and meaning outside of the state.
00:16:42.180 So it could mean, at least indirectly, the degradation of religion, faith, the family, parental
00:16:49.620 involvement, parental rights, the idea of patriotism, of loving your country, of loving the constitution
00:16:56.080 on which this country was founded.
00:16:58.580 All of those things, all of these institutions, all of these foundational values that America
00:17:04.420 was founded on really stand in direct opposition to what the Great Reset is trying to accomplish,
00:17:10.260 correct?
00:17:10.660 Correct.
00:17:10.820 And so Joe Biden, in doing things that just seem like, again, you wouldn't do things any
00:17:17.180 differently if you truly, overtly, explicitly wanted America to do badly, what he's doing
00:17:22.500 with the border, what he did with Afghanistan, not just not necessarily ending the war, but
00:17:28.040 how he did it and deprioritizing American lives.
00:17:32.980 And then what he seems to be doing right now with the economy, what he's doing specifically,
00:17:37.100 I think with the healthcare system is just criminal.
00:17:39.500 Like I said, when we're already experiencing staff shortages that are leading to, it's leading to a
00:17:44.360 loss of life.
00:17:47.180 This seems to, at least in some way, fit into the goal of the Great Reset by doing everything you can
00:17:54.040 to weaken the United States.
00:17:57.800 Do you think some of the economic impact of Biden's decisions have, I know you said basically
00:18:04.160 everything has something to do with the Great Reset, but I guess the question would be, how?
00:18:07.960 And especially when we look at like supply chain issues that we're having right now that are very
00:18:11.980 serious, does that play into all of this?
00:18:15.280 And if so, how does it?
00:18:17.300 Right, so when the Great Reset first launched, Prince Charles, who was one of the, he was one
00:18:25.340 of the co-hosts of the initial big Great Reset events that occurred in June of 2020, this is
00:18:31.420 sort of at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, came out and said, and this was echoed by numerous,
00:18:37.840 numerous leaders, world leaders of, leaders of every big international institution you could
00:18:43.460 think of practically, came out and said, this was, the COVID-19 pandemic was a golden
00:18:47.860 opportunity. Those are his words, a golden opportunity, a golden opportunity to do what?
00:18:53.360 To fix society. That's how they viewed it. A massive global pandemic killing hundreds of
00:18:59.860 thousands, potentially millions of people.
00:19:02.180 And he was not the only person who said that.
00:19:03.940 No, it was a golden opportunity to change society. So I think what's happening here is
00:19:10.200 every opportunity they get, and it could be a pandemic, it could be, it could be anything,
00:19:16.020 it doesn't matter, is going to be utilized in order to roll out as a, because you have to have
00:19:22.000 some justification for rebuilding society, right? You can't just, when people have pretty high
00:19:27.160 living standards, which we have in the West, especially in the United States, you can't just
00:19:30.940 say, you know what, everybody, let's blow this whole thing up. You can't do that. Nobody will
00:19:34.380 buy into it. But if everything's horrible, then people might actually buy into this. They would be
00:19:39.960 willing to do anything in order to fix society if things are broken enough. So I don't think that
00:19:45.540 they wake up one, I don't think that they woke up one day and said, you know what, let's release a
00:19:49.140 virus into the world and let's kill a bunch of people. And then some people do. I know some people
00:19:54.440 think that, but I don't think that's what happened. What I think has been happening for a long time is
00:19:59.580 they've been looking for opportunities to do something like this. And they finally had something
00:20:04.040 that was a believable justification. Climate change has been, and they identify climate change
00:20:10.080 as the long-term justification very early on. They said COVID-19 is the golden opportunity to
00:20:15.400 get this thing going. But COVID's not going to be here forever. Climate change is going to be even
00:20:21.100 worse than COVID-19. And so we have to do these things now. Let's take advantage of everything being
00:20:26.700 destroyed right now. We can build back better. This is where this phrase comes from. It actually comes
00:20:31.940 from the World Economic Forum. Biden just adopted it after the fact. This idea of building back
00:20:37.540 better so that we can prepare for a climate change catastrophe in the future. And so you can see
00:20:43.800 there is this, there's going to be this endless rotation of different problems and crises that need
00:20:51.680 to be solved in order for the elites to complete this plan of rolling out the Great Reset and working
00:21:00.140 society. It's right now, it's COVID-19. And so every opportunity Joe Biden gets to exert more power,
00:21:07.660 to try to seize more power with COVID as a justification, he's going to do it so long as
00:21:11.720 people believe that's a valid justification. When that stops, and someday, hopefully it will stop,
00:21:17.300 almost everyone will say, you know what, we shouldn't lock down society anymore. We don't
00:21:21.600 need vaccine mandates. Well, then he'll switch to climate change. And then if people don't believe
00:21:26.120 that, he'll find something else. And it will go on and on and on forever. And as long as you can
00:21:31.160 control the narrative through the media, and especially through the media, but through academic
00:21:36.100 institutions and other things, then you can get a lot of people to believe that. And if you can get
00:21:41.700 enough people to believe it, well, then you can rework society over time. And I think that the difference
00:21:47.820 between COVID and previous periods is that this is big enough and scary enough and killed enough
00:21:54.600 people that a lot of people were willing, millions, tens of millions of people were willing to say,
00:22:00.080 you know what, I don't care. You can do whatever you want. Just stop the crisis. You can take away
00:22:04.240 all my freedom. I don't care. Just stop it. And that's the most terrifying circumstance. And now
00:22:10.880 that a lot of people are not feeling that way, well, they realize we're running out of time. We got to
00:22:15.800 keep this thing going as long as we possibly can. But I wouldn't be shocked if next year,
00:22:20.280 they're not talking about this at all. Maybe it wouldn't surprise me at all. And instead,
00:22:23.640 it's climate change. We're all going to die from that. Yeah. And I think, though, that I mean,
00:22:28.600 looking at the polling, I remember seeing a poll from before the 2020 election and what people
00:22:36.140 really thought was important and why they were voting the way that they were. Climate change came
00:22:42.500 in like last place. Now, I also happened to see a Pew Research article this morning that said,
00:22:47.560 really, generations are divided on climate change, as is usual with the kind of progressive
00:22:54.740 issues. The youngest generation cares the most about them. I think it's like 75% of people ages
00:23:01.060 18 to 29 in the United States are very concerned, they say, with global warming. I just don't really
00:23:07.740 believe them. I don't actually believe that they really care enough to change their lives. And so
00:23:13.200 I'm just wondering if there will be other crises that are manufactured, certainly before the midterms,
00:23:18.400 I think a year from now, we're going to be talking about some other political crisis
00:23:21.760 that Democrats used to say, you have to vote for us in order to save your life.
00:23:25.120 I just don't know if climate change, you know, I can see the elites thinking that that's super
00:23:32.360 important and really caring about that. I think for most people who just want to feed their families
00:23:36.980 and have a good life, it's really hard for them to connect their daily experience with climate change.
00:23:43.320 So I just don't know if that strategy is going to work.
00:23:45.460 It's just they've been trying the strategy for a long time, a very long, very long time.
00:23:49.900 And so if there was, I agree with you totally that the vast majority of regular people have
00:23:55.480 already decided that in practice, regardless of what they tell pollsters, in practice,
00:23:59.780 they do not believe that climate change is an existential threat to humanity. That's the line
00:24:05.020 that Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, yeah, they're all, it's an existential
00:24:10.500 threat. Existential threat means humanity could be wiped out by this problem. That's what it means.
00:24:16.920 Because nobody actually believes that in practice, because if they did, we'd all be moving into
00:24:21.800 yurts and living in the middle of nature because we don't want to die from climate change. No one
00:24:27.020 believes that. And John Kerry certainly wouldn't be taking private jets. Of course not. And Barack
00:24:30.800 Obama wouldn't have a huge mansion and a plot of land on Martha's Vineyard. Right. And Harry and
00:24:35.900 Meghan wouldn't have an 18,000 square foot house in Malibu. Right. If they really cared. What they
00:24:40.840 actually mean is they don't want you and me to contribute to climate change, however they think we are.
00:24:46.140 Correct. So, but to answer your question, they've been doing this for a long time,
00:24:50.020 which seems to suggest to me that they probably will keep going, even though it has not worked so
00:24:57.380 far, because I think they would have given up already if they, I mean, the writing's been on
00:25:02.940 the wall for a long time. This doesn't really work that well. So I think the goal has been over a long
00:25:07.400 period of time to just keep ratcheting it up. The problem is we're not making it scary enough.
00:25:11.360 Let's make it scarier and even scarier and even scarier. And every wildfire is now climate
00:25:17.060 change. Every hurricane is now caused by climate change. Every natural disaster that exists,
00:25:21.300 it doesn't matter if it has something to do with climate change or not, is because of climate
00:25:24.120 change. People die from asthma. That's also climate change. It's whatever happens in society
00:25:29.280 is being caused by climate change. It could be a snowstorm. It could be extremely cold weather.
00:25:33.960 It doesn't matter. And so I, the reason I think they're going to stick with it,
00:25:37.760 at least for a while. Well, some genuinely believe it. Some do too, right? Some do,
00:25:43.080 especially regular people, you know, who are just walking around, you know, listening to,
00:25:48.360 you know, watching ABC news and stuff like that. Yeah. I've got, I think a lot of people believe
00:25:52.540 it. Some elites probably believe it, at least to some extent, just like they believe COVID is a
00:25:57.600 problem to some extent. But the point is you need a justification, right? When you're a hammer,
00:26:03.580 everything looks like a nail. So when you're looking for justifications all the time to rework
00:26:08.840 society and you have climate change and you've got people saying, well, this could cause all these
00:26:14.000 natural disasters and all these problems. Well, then that's a pretty good nail. We need to make
00:26:18.660 sure we keep hitting that. The reason why I think they might stick with it is because it is the perfect
00:26:23.320 justification. It's perfect because it's always in the future. It's not something that you actually
00:26:29.580 are dealing with now. It's this could happen 20 years from now, 30 years from now, then 20 or 30
00:26:33.820 years goes by, doesn't happen. And they can say, well, it's 20 or 30 years away. It's an existential
00:26:39.060 threat, meaning we'll all die from it. Yeah. But it's so far in the future that we're all going to
00:26:43.360 die from it that none of us will even be alive to know if this will wipe us all out. Right. And so
00:26:48.520 it accomplishes everything that they've always wanted, even before they came up with a climate change
00:26:55.380 crisis. So it does everything they want. So you don't think there's any legitimacy to the concern
00:27:00.260 that some people have about climate change? I think climate change is going, I think climate
00:27:04.060 change is obviously happening. And I think that climate has always been changing. And I think humans
00:27:08.860 may even be contributing to climate change and it might even cause problems. But all of the data that
00:27:13.920 we have, every data that you could possibly look at shows that climate change is not an existential
00:27:20.800 crisis, that the benefits of affordable energy are way, way better than the harms that could be
00:27:27.160 caused by any sort of contribution to climate change, that deaths from things like extreme
00:27:32.700 weather events have been steadily dropping over a long, long period of time in the midst of climate
00:27:38.400 change. That when you look at hurricanes and the number of hurricanes and intensity of hurricanes,
00:27:42.680 when you look at tornadoes, when you look at wildfires and the number of acreages burned and all
00:27:46.940 these different things, these things are not getting worse. Yeah. In some cases,
00:27:49.840 they're actually getting better and that humanity is surviving and even thriving because of technology,
00:27:56.540 because of affordable energy in a way that they never were prior to us having fossil fuels.
00:28:02.860 Fossil fuels is the cheap, affordable energy is the greatest thing that has ever happened to humanity
00:28:08.480 in terms of economics and improving the quality of life. And anything we do to reduce that is going
00:28:15.720 to harm, especially the lower income people in society. And, and more than that, even countries
00:28:22.800 that are sort of low and middle income countries, because they don't even have the infrastructure
00:28:26.640 that we have here. So, you know, maybe people here, a lot of people here can afford to pay a little bit
00:28:31.100 more for everything. Cause that's what's going to happen if we switch to renewable energy sources
00:28:35.160 like wind and solar, but in a country, in a, in a place like Africa, that's not the case.
00:28:40.080 They need as much affordable energy as possible right now. They don't even have hospitals that are
00:28:46.520 functioning all the time. The electricity goes out all the time. People die constantly just because
00:28:51.960 the hospital can't keep the lights on. So we are not there. They say they care about these people,
00:28:58.680 but then they're asking them to run their entire countries on windmills and solar panels. And it
00:29:04.440 makes absolutely no sense. So do I think that, um, and by the way, people like Michael Moore even agree
00:29:11.540 that this is a giant scam, that these plans for renewable energy don't work and will never work.
00:29:17.440 Um, and so it's not even just a left, right thing. There are a lot of people on the left,
00:29:22.000 if you're willing to look for them who admit that green energy and all of this stuff isn't going to work.
00:29:27.520 But Biden is supposedly pro green energy, anti-fossil fuels. Correct? Correct.
00:29:32.920 That's why he stopped the construction of the Keystone pipeline. But then he called on,
00:29:38.120 um, he, he called on foreign sources of oil to produce more oil. Correct. So again,
00:29:45.740 is this a malicious intent to try to weaken America's reliance on our own sources of oil and just
00:29:56.360 weaken America in general? I mean, it just seems like every decision he makes
00:30:01.320 is about the deprioritization of American prosperity, safety, security, and lives.
00:30:08.960 Yeah. I think that the way to think about it is that the people at the top, uh, including Joe Biden,
00:30:15.540 who is a big, great reset supporter. We know that John Kerry has told us that Joe Biden supports the
00:30:20.380 great reset and believes in all of this and that he's going to help implement it.
00:30:23.820 I think Biden himself as an individual would benefit from a great reset being turned off
00:30:29.880 and turned back on because his brain doesn't seem to be functioning. And sometimes that actually
00:30:35.260 works. You know, it works whenever my computer is running really slowly. I'm like, oh, I'll just need
00:30:39.360 to turn it off and turn it back on. I just need to reset it. I think there needs to be a factory
00:30:42.960 reset of Joe Biden. Without a doubt. And I think the people around Joe Biden are the ones pushing it
00:30:48.980 the most. To some extent, I do, but I do believe Joe Biden always believed in this kind of stuff.
00:30:54.820 He's been in these circles forever, but I also think that he's not all the way there. And you
00:31:00.140 know, he's the people around him are promoting these things and pushing it. And he's just kind
00:31:04.600 of going along and reading the teleprompter and it's all kind of jogs his memory. Yeah. I used to
00:31:09.340 believe this at some point in the past, I think, uh, right. And so he just goes in the same direction
00:31:14.720 that they want him to go in. The people who are around him are unquestionably all in favor of
00:31:20.460 this reworking of society and using climate change and COVID as the key justifications for making it
00:31:26.340 happen. John Kerry is the biggest, biggest supporter of this. And he is the, he's on the,
00:31:31.700 he's in the cabinet. He's the special climate envoy for John, uh, for Joe Biden. Um, he's been a close
00:31:37.520 political ally of Joe Biden for a very long time. Um, and he's, he's pushing this more than anybody
00:31:43.940 and openly telling other world leaders that Joe Biden supports all of this. So do I think that
00:31:49.080 Joe Biden is deliberately destroying the economy, deliberately making things worse? No, what I
00:31:54.860 think is happening is that they believe that this is all in the long run going to be for the better.
00:32:00.960 I think, yeah, they think maybe temporarily prosperity drops a little bit. Things are a little bit worse
00:32:06.540 for some people and not for others. Okay. Yeah, that's fine. But society will be so much better off
00:32:12.620 with us in charge. Just give us enough time. It's going to be painful at the start, but once we're
00:32:18.040 in charge of everything and we can, you know, turn on the money printers even more and, and just send
00:32:22.780 people cash in the mail. And a lot of people won't even ever have to work a day in their lives. And
00:32:27.000 we're going to save the planet from climate change. And we're going to make sure everyone's
00:32:31.120 taken care of, and we're going to have elder care and your two year old is going to be going to school
00:32:35.880 for now. You know, we can't even wait till they're five or six. We got to send them when they're two years
00:32:40.400 old now or three years old in the universal pre-k. So like this whole concept, all of these
00:32:45.720 things, they think we're all going to be better off, including us stupid sheep. We're all going
00:32:49.840 to be better off too. Just let the shepherds lead us to the promised land. And if we, it might be
00:32:54.760 painful at first, but eventually we'll get there and we'll all be better off for it. So do I think
00:32:59.500 they think that this is making us worse off? No, I think they believe that we're all going to be
00:33:04.780 better off with them in charge. It's just the transition period is a little rough. That's all.
00:33:09.480 Yeah. So what they would say is that we're currently experiencing that rough transition
00:33:14.540 period or that the worst is yet to come. I, I think that they believe this is, uh, the worst
00:33:21.880 that it's going to, I think that they think we're just about to turn the corner. That's what I think.
00:33:25.720 Now I could be wrong. And I do know some people who believe that one of the reasons they're being
00:33:30.060 insane about these COVID restrictions is because they actually know things we don't know about COVID.
00:33:36.980 COVID. I've heard that theory that maybe they think that COVID is going to get a lot worse before it
00:33:42.020 gets better. And that that's part of all of this, that they don't want to tell people because they're
00:33:46.720 afraid to tell people. That's very charitable. That's a charitable interpretation that they actually
00:33:51.340 care so much about our wellbeing that they're really trying to get Trump voters to get vaccinated.
00:33:57.360 The psychology of these people is difficult to pin down, right? Because on the one hand,
00:34:02.800 it's like with climate change, I think a lot of them do believe climate change is a big problem,
00:34:07.240 right? But do they really believe it's an existential crisis is going to wipe us all out?
00:34:11.840 I don't know, but I think that it helps them sleep at night to know, you know what,
00:34:15.440 all this power grabbing that we're doing, all this money that we're making, it's worth it. And you guys
00:34:20.360 are all going to be better off too. Don't worry about it. And even if, uh, you know, climate change
00:34:25.060 isn't a crisis, that's okay. Even if COVID isn't as deadly as we think it could be, you know,
00:34:30.340 that's okay. Because at the end of the day, these, this reworking of society is a good thing.
00:34:35.400 This is all just a golden opportunity to do the things we should be doing,
00:34:38.480 but you stupid sheep won't listen to us. And under normal circumstances, we need crises to get you
00:34:43.660 people to change the social contract and do this, all this other stuff.
00:34:47.200 Okay. One thing that you've written about recently that I don't know necessarily fits into what we're
00:35:01.920 talking about, but maybe it does is Biden's attack on the second amendment. You wrote about this
00:35:08.460 recently for the Federalist. And you said that without passing any laws or without pushing any
00:35:14.220 policy, they are actually infringing on people's second amendment rights. What do you mean by that?
00:35:19.720 Right. So when a lot of people have been focused on a lot of different things over the past few weeks,
00:35:24.880 so it's understandable that people didn't catch this, but I believe in August, late August,
00:35:30.000 the Biden administration announced new sanctions on Russia. And those sanctions involved, um, banning all
00:35:37.920 ammo coming from Russia and guns too, but a lot of guns had already been banned from Russia.
00:35:43.080 Now, the reason that matters is because we are in the midst right now of one of the worst ammo
00:35:48.360 shortages the United States has ever had gun and ammo. And this is just one of the many things that
00:35:53.400 we are short on right now. Exactly. And the biggest reason for the ammo and gun shortage,
00:35:58.760 uh, in particular is not just because you had COVID related shutdowns and things like that,
00:36:03.460 but also because there are lots of people buying guns and tons of them, uh, gun sales in the first
00:36:09.160 six months of 2021, where it's the highest, uh, period of time that that is for the first six
00:36:15.120 months of the year for gun sales ever. Because people knew Biden was going to try to come after
00:36:19.520 our guns. Exactly. And 2020 was also one of the, one of the best years for guns. Because people saw
00:36:24.820 their cities burning down. Exactly. So there are reasons for these ideas, right? So Biden comes in
00:36:31.340 and they say, you know what, we're going to put these sanctions on Russian ammo. Well,
00:36:35.780 there is no American made, well, there is American made ammo, but it's being sold out really quickly.
00:36:40.100 So gun sellers have been importing, um, uh, ammo from other countries and Russia is one of those
00:36:46.100 countries. Lots of ammo gets imported from Russia. It's one of the top countries for distributing ammo
00:36:51.260 to the United States outside of, you know, us companies, based companies. So he issues these
00:36:57.080 sanctions and he claims the reason they're issuing the sanctions is because of this case, um, a year ago
00:37:03.000 where, um, uh, a opposition leader to Vladimir Putin got poisoned. Okay. Yes. There had already
00:37:09.660 been sanctions issued based on this. And that happened over a year ago when Joe Biden wasn't
00:37:14.040 president. So now a year later, they're saying we're going to have a whole new round of sanctions
00:37:18.960 on Russia to really teach him a lesson. Now, how does banning ammo from being imported in the United
00:37:25.020 States? Well, we're having an ammo shortage. Does that really hurt Vladimir Putin? Is that really,
00:37:29.840 is he going to, you know, just shake his fists at the world and just give up now?
00:37:34.480 While we're sending $64 million to Afghanistan. Exactly. Of course not. It doesn't make any sense.
00:37:40.120 The reason he's doing this is it's because of part of a larger movement to make buying a gun,
00:37:45.700 buying ammunition and, and just be exercising your second amendment rights, increasingly more
00:37:50.820 difficult to do. There are other things that are happening as well. Early in the Biden administration,
00:37:55.420 they, um, killed a Trump regulation that would have made it impossible for financial institutions,
00:38:03.180 banks specifically to deny people access to capital loans and things like that, um, on the basis of
00:38:10.140 the kind of business they're in. So long as that business is legal. So in other words, a bank couldn't
00:38:15.140 say to a gun manufacturer, we're not going to give you a loan because you're a gun manufacturer,
00:38:20.080 even though otherwise you'd be qualified. We're not going to do that. We're not going to,
00:38:23.100 we're going to discriminate against you because we don't like that you sell guns. Right?
00:38:27.180 So the Trump administration put in a rule that at the very end of their administration that said,
00:38:31.540 you can't do this. If, if they are qualified financially and it's a legal business,
00:38:35.680 then you got to give them the loan. If you're going to give loans to other people,
00:38:39.000 the first thing Biden did literally the first week he was in office was kill that regulation
00:38:44.060 right away so that banks could discriminate against gun sellers and manufacturers. And that's
00:38:49.940 exactly the kind of thing that we've started to see. Some banks have openly said they're not going,
00:38:55.200 they're going to remove these kinds of businesses from their portfolio so that they are not providing
00:39:01.260 them access to capital. Now, if you're a gun manufacturer or just a gun seller, even if you
00:39:05.800 have a small gun shop, but you can't get access to a bank account, then how can you possibly function
00:39:11.540 in the modern world? You can't, you basically have to close down. And so this is part of a larger
00:39:17.780 movement. This is part of the great reset. It's part of a larger movement, a sort of collusion of sorts
00:39:24.340 between the government issuing a regulation that helps financial institutions penalize some industries,
00:39:30.520 not other industries that don't fit in with what elites want. So elites don't want guns. They know they
00:39:36.320 can't just ban guns outright because we have the second amendment. So instead they allow financial
00:39:41.600 institutions to ban guns indirectly by just making it impossible to sell them financially. And more
00:39:49.200 and more financial institutions are doing this. It's just like with social media companies and you
00:39:54.260 have the government allowing social media companies to exist, allowing them because they had to make
00:39:59.480 special carve outs in order to do that legally, allowing them to have all of this power and leeway to
00:40:05.000 silence anyone they want, whenever they want. And then of course, these social media companies start
00:40:10.240 silencing only the people who are opposed to the policies that these left-wing people in government
00:40:17.780 support, right? If this was, if all the social media companies were conservative and they were all
00:40:24.440 silencing liberals, there's literally no way that they wouldn't immediately turn to using government to
00:40:30.580 make sure that these social media companies were doing this. So this is, again, that's also part of the
00:40:35.560 Great Reset. It's all one big plan to use finance, to use government regulations, to use investors who
00:40:43.500 are also saying we're going to pull all of our money, groups like BlackRock, saying we're going to
00:40:49.680 try to divest money from undesirable industries and guns for many of these people is part of that.
00:40:56.820 It's all one big group of people. They all know each other. They all hang out with each other. They all
00:41:00.960 give money to the same causes. They all go to Davos together. They all go to Davos events and say
00:41:05.900 they're going to roll out a plan to transform all of society all over the world. They're not hiding it.
00:41:10.840 They're not hiding it. So the idea that it's a conspiracy theory is nonsense. It's not even a
00:41:16.700 theory at this point. It's just out there. It's just out there. Well, on our last conversation on
00:41:21.860 YouTube, they put like a fact check underneath it, which was just a link to the Wikipedia page about
00:41:27.160 what the Great Reset was. And I'm like, thank you for actually affirming what Justin is saying.
00:41:32.540 It literally just said, this is the Great Reset, World Economic Forum, blah, blah, blah. And so it's,
00:41:38.700 I mean, it's verifiable. Maybe some people disagree with certain interpretation of certain policy,
00:41:44.000 and maybe some people listening are for some of the policies and restrictions that are being put in
00:41:48.900 place for other reasons who aren't pro Great Reset. The fact of the matter is, is that this is
00:41:56.020 playing into the transformation of society. Now, one thing that I find interesting, and I think it's
00:42:01.640 true just in learning from you, is that this is not communist. This is not even really socialist.
00:42:08.020 Yes, it's collectivist in a particular way, and it's certainly devaluing things like individual
00:42:13.480 rights and property rights, but it's not Marxist in the sense of Marxism that we know, correct? And so
00:42:21.180 you don't see someone like AOC or Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders who are advocating for, quote,
00:42:26.160 direct democracy. You don't see those people as kind of playing into the Great Reset, right?
00:42:31.040 That's right. That's right. And this is very important. When Glenn Beck, Glenn Beck and I have
00:42:34.620 been working on a book for this for like over a year now. And one of the things initially that we
00:42:39.020 struggled with the most, I mean, for six months, was what is this exactly? And initially, it was like,
00:42:45.880 well, this is just a way to do socialism. Clearly, this is just some sort of way to do socialism. But the
00:42:50.000 more we looked into it, the more we realized this isn't really about socialism. It's not really
00:42:55.180 about communism. Socialism and communism are best defined through collective property ownership
00:43:00.020 and management. OK, it's about collective ownership of property. Primarily, this is not
00:43:05.500 about collective ownership of property. Under this model, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy that
00:43:10.380 you own nothing. This is one of their certain people have used this exact language on the World
00:43:15.000 Economic Forum's website. Yep. Members of government, by the way, it was a member of government who wrote
00:43:19.260 that in one of the Scandinavian countries. So it's not that everyone will collectively own
00:43:24.720 the property. It's that the elites will own the property and you will become renters. You'll rent
00:43:30.120 the property from them and the government will give you money so that you can survive and everything.
00:43:34.580 But they're going to be in control of it. There is no collective ownership of property. There's
00:43:39.720 management, collective management of property in the sense that you elect people who then decide how
00:43:44.860 property is going to be controlled, except you don't elect the bankers. You don't elect central
00:43:50.440 banks. You don't elect people at the International Monetary Fund. You don't elect the United Nations.
00:43:55.420 You don't elect any of these people except for the people in your own national government who have
00:44:00.120 all sold their souls to this system anyway. And so it doesn't even really matter.
00:44:03.720 Um, so in that sense, uh, it's not socialistic because it is controlled by the elites. Yeah. In
00:44:11.400 reality, in, in a way, this is this system of government to have, uh, I mean, technology has
00:44:17.740 changed things. Finance has changed over time, but in a way this has always existed. Yeah. Always
00:44:23.060 for the whole history of human civilization from the beginning of time, as soon as we actually started
00:44:28.720 having civilized, uh, uh, communities where the leaders in charge and all of that, as soon as we
00:44:34.120 started doing that, there were elites in society who developed and decided, you know what, we should
00:44:39.440 have all the power and control. And the Karl Marx would agree with me on this. Exactly. He would be
00:44:46.900 totally in line with what I'm saying right now. So do I think that communism, which is designed to
00:44:52.500 destroy all of that and to make it so there is no class system at all. And everybody has exactly the
00:44:57.320 same thing according to their needs. Of course not. Everyone, you end up with tyranny anyway,
00:45:02.320 and authoritarianism anyway. So this is kind of just skipping some steps. They're saying let's,
00:45:06.960 in actuality, I think there are some people who think, you know what, to avoid the socialist
00:45:12.800 blood in the streets, the revolutionary Marxism type thing, we have to do this. This is the only way
00:45:19.880 we can make sure that we elites still have control and that society doesn't just break down into
00:45:25.080 nothing. And I actually think that that's the subtext to when John Kerry and people like that
00:45:30.460 talk about a need for a new social contract and how the world is demanding a new social contract.
00:45:36.380 And we're seeing this with people in the streets and Black Lives Matters and all this other stuff.
00:45:40.560 He looks at that and he says, these people want to destroy everything, everything, and just have a
00:45:48.200 communist revolution, essentially, and just go to a totally different thing. And we want to stop that.
00:45:54.040 That's what John Kerry believes. But we know we can't stop it by just having individual liberty
00:45:59.640 and doing all of these other things, because of course that doesn't work. What we need is we need
00:46:03.900 to be in charge of everything, but do it in a way that is make sure that they get their little slice
00:46:10.500 of the pie too. And that's why they are buying into all these left-wing causes, right? It's because
00:46:16.340 it's throwing these people who are marching in the streets a bone.
00:46:19.220 And not only that, but if people like John Kerry and the people at the World Economic Forum see
00:46:25.400 individual rights as an impediment to their goals, then they are on the same page in some ways with
00:46:34.260 the critical race theorists and people at Black Lives Matter and Antifa, because those people also
00:46:40.860 want to do away with due process and individual rights. That's one of the tenets of critical race
00:46:44.740 theory questions the effectiveness and the morality of things like due process, free speech, all of
00:46:52.920 those things they are very clear about in their writings, proposing that we adopt critical race
00:47:00.320 theory. And so they're on the same page there. So I could also see people like Kerry trying to
00:47:06.720 use them at least to a certain point. Okay, you can aid and abet the destruction of these things,
00:47:13.080 but we'll take it from there. Exactly. And we'll go in a different direction. We're not going towards
00:47:16.820 communism. We're going to go in this way. And I don't even think those people think that they
00:47:20.600 know that they are being used.
00:47:22.300 Okay, we have a few minutes left. I want to get your reaction to we were talking about socialism and
00:47:39.140 AOC. She was at the Met, the Met Gala last night. She was in this white dress that says tax the rich
00:47:49.060 on the back of it. This was specially made for her. And she was asked about this also in an interview.
00:47:56.880 So we'll go ahead and play that. When Aurora and I were first kind of partnered, we really started
00:48:03.360 having a conversation about what it means to be working class women of color at the Met. And we said,
00:48:11.040 you know, we can't just play along, but we need to break the fourth wall and challenge some of the
00:48:15.760 institutions. And, and, you know, while the Met is known for its spectacle, we should have a
00:48:22.620 conversation about it.
00:48:23.800 We should have a conversation about it. We should have a conversation about what she I mean, she makes
00:48:28.260 at least just in her salary what she's making almost $175,000 a year is that working class?
00:48:33.800 Well, it is in Washington, DC. That's where they're all millionaires. And you know, the I don't
00:48:38.720 know what I used to know this, but the average amount of wealth held by a member of Congress is like
00:48:45.160 an absurd, it's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. I think it might be even
00:48:48.380 over a million dollars is the average. So, you know, I guess in that sense, she is kind of working
00:48:53.440 class, I guess. But this is, of course, is absurd. This is actually ties into what we were talking
00:48:59.680 about before. How do you, if you're the elites and the AOCs of the world, scare you a little bit
00:49:05.520 because you don't want all of society to break down. You don't want all the institutions to disappear
00:49:10.000 because you run all the institutions. You like that. Well, then you flatter them. You invite them to
00:49:15.040 the Met Gala. You give them lots of money. You make them very popular. You make them an elite.
00:49:19.440 Yeah, you make them an elite. And the thing about AOC is she is an elite. She would like to say she's
00:49:24.520 not, but she's very wealthy. She has two homes. She is. She drives a Tesla. She drives a Tesla.
00:49:30.900 She goes to the Met Gala, you know, wearing absurdly expensive clothes that working class women don't wear.
00:49:37.280 She makes herself feel better by saying, OK, but I'm going and I'm making a statement about it. I'm making
00:49:42.820 all of these people uncomfortable. But really, a lot of people there would also say that they're
00:49:47.540 socialists. They probably would have voted for AOC if they lived in her district. They would
00:49:51.820 definitely vote for her for president. So a lot of those people wearing thousands and thousands of
00:49:56.300 dollars who are very rich are right in line or they say they're right in line with AOC's policy
00:50:01.500 position. So she's not making anyone uncomfortable there. She is right in line with all of them. And I
00:50:07.180 think what she said is true, that they're also just trying to make her an elite.
00:50:13.180 And so and I mean, I think that that will probably be accomplished, don't you?
00:50:17.920 Oh, I think it's already been accomplished. And I think you see that with Black Lives Matter
00:50:21.540 to the leadership in Black Lives Matter to millionaires now.
00:50:25.540 Well, own three homes.
00:50:26.320 Yeah, exactly. Well, how did that happen? Because you what you did was you made them celebrities.
00:50:32.060 The elites made them celebrities. They funneled millions of dollars into their institutions.
00:50:36.900 They allowed them to make millions of dollars from the money that they funneled in. And now
00:50:41.800 all of a sudden they've got all these houses and they've got security, private security,
00:50:45.780 and they have all of these wonderful things that they supposedly hated not that long ago.
00:50:50.440 When in doubt, when you get a really troublesome socialist leader, the way to get them on your side
00:50:56.740 is to just flatter the heck out of them, make them rich beyond belief and bring them into your
00:51:02.760 class. Because at the end of the day, who doesn't really want to be an elite? These people want to be
00:51:08.040 wanted. Yeah. And and that's what you see at the Met Gala. Yep. And it makes them feel better about all
00:51:14.040 of it when they can say that they're advocating for vulnerable people. Cori Bush is another very far
00:51:19.740 left congresswoman who said that she actually said on television. Yeah. You know, I'm going to have
00:51:26.420 private security if I have to pay two hundred dollars or two hundred thousand dollars. I'm
00:51:30.600 going to pay for private security. But funding the police needs to happen. I mean, that is that
00:51:35.500 perfectly characterizes what so many of these professing socialists in Congress, just how they live
00:51:42.740 their lives. I like to say that people like AOC, they're really just LARPing. They're LARPing a
00:51:48.920 socialist, which is live action role play. If people don't know, they're really just pretending
00:51:53.860 to be socialist. Hassan Piker, I think that's his name. He is like a he's a streamer. He claims to be
00:52:01.120 a socialist. He had this picture that said, like, eat the rich or tax the rich. And then it came out
00:52:06.200 that he was buying this over a million dollar home in L.A. And they try to, you know, act dumb and say,
00:52:12.720 oh, so I'm a socialist. So that means that I can't buy a house. No, no, no. You know,
00:52:18.400 that's not, you know, that's not what we're saying. You are criticizing the elites while you
00:52:22.320 are one. That's exactly right. And that's and again, I think that this is all part of the plans
00:52:27.600 from elites is it's a way to get people out of the way. And now what you've done is you've actually
00:52:32.760 the elites have actually won because we are sitting here saying these people are totally
00:52:38.680 delegitimized. They're not even real socialists. And now what you've done is you've you've
00:52:43.080 delegitimized the socialist movement, even from people who might be in favor of socialism,
00:52:47.520 because even the leaders of socialism are now looking more like elites.
00:52:51.240 So anytime you get someone who becomes a popular socialist, they become an elite, too.
00:52:55.500 You can never really get that grassroots Marxist socialist utopia that that the theorists and
00:53:02.960 academics and stuff always say they want because you always end up with a class of elites at the
00:53:07.880 top who end up just keeping all the money and power for themselves anyway. So it all this is this
00:53:13.220 is a story as old as time. And yet they keep perpetuating it over and over and over again,
00:53:18.340 no matter how many times it fails. Yeah, it's really amazing.
00:53:21.440 It really is amazing. And you do an amazing job of explaining all of that for us and breaking it
00:53:25.840 down. Thank you so much. How can people support you?
00:53:28.340 Well, they can go to stopping socialism dot com where I'm editor in chief and of course,
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00:53:36.940 Awesome. Thank you so much, Justin. Thanks, Ali.
00:53:38.560 Thank you.