Ep 488 ｜ Vaccine Mandates & Met Galas： Welcome to our Brave New World ｜ Guest： Justin Haskins
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Justin Haskins joins me to talk about The Great Reset, the Met Gala, AOC's "Tax the Rich" dress, and much, much more. He also shares his thoughts on why the Biden administration is a disaster and why we need to do something about it.
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Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
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You know that name because he is the guy that we talked to about the Great Reset.
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We're going to be talking a little bit about that today, but we're also going to be talking
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about a few other things that the Biden administration has done, maybe that we haven't heard about
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because there's been so much that has been going on over the past few weeks, but are
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nevertheless very important policy issues that we have to care about that we need to
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We're also going to be talking about AOC at the Met Gala and her tax the rich dress that
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And you'll hear my take on that, his take on that, how that actually fits into everything
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My last conversation that I had with Justin about BlackRock and China and the Great Reset
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and Bill Gates is the most listened to episode of Relatable that I've ever had.
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And so if that tells you anything about how great this guest is and how much you will love
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this conversation, just trust me, you're going to.
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So without further ado, here's our friend, Justin Haskins.
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Justin, thank you so much for joining us again.
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I was just telling you before we turn the cameras on that our conversation about BlackRock
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and Bill Gates in China is the most listened to episode of Relatable ever.
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It is one of those things where it is just it's such an important issue that nobody talks
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Then I really think it's going to gain lots of momentum.
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And maybe we can actually stop some of this stuff that's been going on.
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So thank you for taking the time to actually talk with me at length about it.
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I think one reason why it's not really talked about and go back, by the way, if you haven't
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listened to or watched that episode, we'll link it in the description to this episode
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But one of the reasons why I think a lot of people don't talk about all of that stuff is
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Like people and then they feel like they're getting sucked into some kind of conspiratorial
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And that's why I think a lot of people, you know, they just won't even touch it.
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I think if collectively there was more awareness about it and more pushing back against it,
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then maybe, I don't know, maybe it'd make a difference.
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No, that's the only way it'll make a difference.
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I mean, the only way that this stops is if the people who are orchestrating all of this stuff,
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who are working together, these are elites and banks.
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And financial institutions, investment groups, and the government and elsewhere.
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The only way this stops is if they get called out on it.
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Whenever anyone actually points this stuff out, they go nuts.
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They go absolutely crazy because they know they're getting away with something.
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They just, the only way it can be stopped is if everybody wakes up and realizes, wait a
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Corporations are imposing all these rules on us.
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Government's now imposing all these rules on us.
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And when you realize that it's all really part of the same plan, the same idea, then
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And they're just, like I said, deathly afraid that people figure out how to connect all those
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And when we're talking about it, for those people who may not know, who haven't gone
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back and listened to that episode yet, we're talking about the great reset.
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Can you, I don't know if you can boil it down to a couple of sentences, but is there a way
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to just kind of shortly encapsulate what you're talking about?
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So I think the easiest way to understand it is the great reset is a movement.
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It's an idea that the great reset term is a branding that they gave it, the people who
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And it's a movement amongst the people who are in the highest rungs of power all over
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the world, from the World Economic Forum, and that's the group that does Davos every
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year or so, from the United Nations, from various governments, from corporations, from
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They've all got together and they released this great reset plan.
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And the plan is essentially to centralize power and control in the hands of the elites,
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And it's all being fueled by money that's being printed by central banks, both here in
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And the way that it's all going to work is we're going to funnel money into the parts
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of the economy that are the quote unquote, you know, good parts of the economy and the
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good companies, the people who agree to go along with our ideas, whether that's fighting
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climate change and the Paris Climate Accords or, you know, reducing the amount of
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pollution and, you know, in their supply chains or making sure you have the right ratio of
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Hispanics to African-Americans at your company.
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So this goes into that ESG score that we've talked about.
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That's how they know who the good companies are and who the bad companies are.
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They built this giant infrastructure called ESG, environmental, social and governance standards.
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And major corporations all over the world have already adopted this.
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More than 80 percent of the large corporations in America have this in place already.
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In Europe, they're talking about making it the law that every corporation in the European
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And so that's how they know who the good companies are and who the bad companies are and who to
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funnel the money to and who to take money away from and who to impose regulations on and
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It is already in the process of being rolled out.
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This is not some like, well, this could happen someday in the future if we're not careful.
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And, you know, when we did that podcast the last time about BlackRock and all of that,
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I mean, we went into great detail about all of these things.
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That's one of the reasons it's so successful, because you can't just explain it easily in
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And, you know, that's what we did in our last conversation.
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And that's why I think people liked it so much.
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A lot of people are wondering if Biden's vaccine mandates, which, you know, we've already talked
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about on this show, how I don't think that they're backed either constitutionally, logically
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I just don't think it makes a whole lot of sense.
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If his goal was to try to convince people to get the vaccine in his speech, I don't think
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It was creepy with his little whisper into the microphone.
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But a lot of people are wondering if it's even more sinister than just, OK, he didn't
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give a good speech or this is incompetence or he's not thinking clearly his administration
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Some people are wondering if there's maybe some malice behind it and they're maybe connecting
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it to this whole Great Reset movement of trying to reshape the economy and all of our
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systems to try to, you know, empower what you call these, you know, this group of elites,
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but also to change the way basically we function as a society.
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And one of the things that people are pointing to in this is not just the reshaping of the
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economy, but what seems to be a destruction of our health care system as well.
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And one of the things that I'm seeing people say is when Biden has threatened to take Medicare
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away from hospitals or Medicare funding away from hospitals that don't vaccinate all of
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their employees in the midst of a staff shortage that is actually leading to what we're seeing
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in the overflow of ICUs where there are an abundance of beds in a lot of cases, but there aren't
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enough staff to actually man those beds and people are quitting because of these vaccine
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You just wonder if this is just one of the examples of the Biden administration purposely
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pushing policy that is meant and is bent towards destruction.
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And then, you know, people ask the same question about Afghanistan.
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You wouldn't have done that any differently if you wanted things to go poorly.
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If you really wanted America to be embarrassed on the world stage.
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Now we've heard Secretary Blinken said that we're giving $64 million to the Taliban.
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So all these questions are circulating and asking, OK, is this malicious?
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And part of that great reset is to weaken all of America's systems, economy, health care,
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Or is that just trying to fit things in that really don't fit?
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Yeah, so I would argue and this is going to sound a little bit strange maybe to some
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people, but I would argue almost everything that happens is in some way related to the
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But yes, everything that happens in terms of American policy and Western policy, really,
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I think is related to the great reset because the whole purpose of it is to completely reshape
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They talked about how one of the things they want to do is not just push the reset button,
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which is what the great reset alludes to on the entire economy, but on societies as a
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whole to rewrite social contracts because existing social contracts aren't working to change all
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Explain what social contract theory is and why they want to change it.
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Well, when John Kerry, for example, because you asked, does Joe Biden support the great
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When John Kerry was openly advocating for the great reset prior to becoming part of the
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Biden administration, he was saying that he talked about the social contract a lot,
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And what it means is that we as a people, the people, the public, we have a we've come
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together to form a society and that society has rules.
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We've put into place a government and rule of law and all of these things.
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And different societies have sort of different social contracts where they've come together
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and decided we're going to, for example, in the Middle East, there are Islamic societies
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where the social contract is really built around the Koran and built around Sharia law
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In Western civilization, historically, the social contract is grounded in Judeo-Christian ideas
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But especially the past thousand years in the West, that's what the basis of our social
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contract has been for all of Western modern Western civilization.
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But what John Kerry and other elites believe is that this idea of individual rights being
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the core centerpiece around the way society should be built, the way economics should work,
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that that doesn't work anymore, that it's led to inequality and racism and all of these
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And so we have to rework our understanding of the obligations that we have as individuals
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to each other, that institutions have to us and the responsibilities of government versus
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the responsibilities of individuals and churches and other institutions.
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We have to rework all of that because it doesn't work anymore.
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And he would point to people rioting in the streets and burning down police stations and people
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demanding for defunding the police and all of this as proof of the fact that the social contract
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And his way of doing things is not full blown communism, socialism or something like that,
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which is what a Bernie Sanders would argue we should switch to or a return to what we would
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consider to be conservative values and sort of the founding principles of the United States.
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He would say what we need is to move to a more progressive model where the elites are in charge
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of more of society and that they build institutions that are better designed to provide the services
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needed for people in that society and that we need to kind of take a backseat to nationalism.
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We need to think internationally and individual rights are not necessarily always good.
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They need to take a backseat to the good of the collective.
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Well, banks, financial institutions, government officials, et cetera.
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And that's that's what they mean by rewriting social contracts.
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Of course, for people who believe in individual rights, who believe that those individual rights
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are inalienable, that they can't be taken away or destroyed.
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This is really scary because, of course, elites abuse their power when they're given too much
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And that's really what I think the Great Reset is all about.
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If you're going to sum it all up into one big thing, what is it?
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It is the centralization of power in the hands of elites here and around the world.
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It's about moving the power into the people into the hands of the elites, because if they
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have the power and they can set up a system through ESG and financial institutions and other
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things that they think is a more efficient, better way of distributing wealth and power
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and everything to other people, that's how they would sell it, then we'll all be better
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off if we could just give it to the right people.
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And this idea has been around for over 100 years.
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And in actuality, and Glenn Beck's talked about this a lot on his show, this plan, to a large
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extent, has been in existence since at least in America, since at least the existence of
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the progressive era, the progressive movement of the early 1900s, late 1800s, where they talked
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about remaking society, rebuilding society, rewriting social contracts, giving more power
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to the experts in society, putting administrative bureaucracies in charge of more of our society,
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because that's the only way we can keep up with these European nations.
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At the time, everyone thought, you know, the Nazis were, before they were the Nazis, everyone
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thought this was going to be a great thing, that they were accomplishing all these amazing
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feats, that fascism needed to have a counterpart.
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And the United States needed to move more in that direction, because, you know, democracy and
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individual rights that can slow things down and come up the works, right?
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So this is what, ultimately, the Great Reset is all about.
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It's about, instead of competing with, you know, Nazis in the 1930s, it's about competing
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with China, and it's about competing with Russia and countries like that, who are able to just
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build factories by bulldozing down people's apartment buildings whenever they feel like
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it, or, you know, arbitrarily setting prices and wages and things like that whenever they
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feel like it, or, you know, throwing people in prison because they're political dissenters
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that don't have the right religion whenever they feel like it.
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How do we compete with that in the United States?
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These are the conversations that these elites are having in the West, and their answer is
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this whole reworking of society through the Great Reset.
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And if the goal is the reworking of society to kind of concentrate power in the hands of
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the elites, one way that you have to do that is you have to kind of demonize the idea of
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You certainly have to demonize the idea of getting your values, your protection, your provision
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from anything other than the, I don't even know if the state is the right word, but some
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higher power, which this group of elites thinks that they will one day, one day be.
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And that means that you really have to weaken everything that the West and specifically the
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You have to weaken all of the institutions where people go to get their values, to get their
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protection, to get their sense of belonging and purpose and meaning outside of the state.
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So it could mean, at least indirectly, the degradation of religion, faith, the family, parental
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involvement, parental rights, the idea of patriotism, of loving your country, of loving the constitution
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All of those things, all of these institutions, all of these foundational values that America
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was founded on really stand in direct opposition to what the Great Reset is trying to accomplish,
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And so Joe Biden, in doing things that just seem like, again, you wouldn't do things any
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differently if you truly, overtly, explicitly wanted America to do badly, what he's doing
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with the border, what he did with Afghanistan, not just not necessarily ending the war, but
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how he did it and deprioritizing American lives.
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And then what he seems to be doing right now with the economy, what he's doing specifically,
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I think with the healthcare system is just criminal.
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Like I said, when we're already experiencing staff shortages that are leading to, it's leading to a
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This seems to, at least in some way, fit into the goal of the Great Reset by doing everything you can
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Do you think some of the economic impact of Biden's decisions have, I know you said basically
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everything has something to do with the Great Reset, but I guess the question would be, how?
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And especially when we look at like supply chain issues that we're having right now that are very
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Right, so when the Great Reset first launched, Prince Charles, who was one of the, he was one
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of the co-hosts of the initial big Great Reset events that occurred in June of 2020, this is
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sort of at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, came out and said, and this was echoed by numerous,
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numerous leaders, world leaders of, leaders of every big international institution you could
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think of practically, came out and said, this was, the COVID-19 pandemic was a golden
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opportunity. Those are his words, a golden opportunity, a golden opportunity to do what?
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To fix society. That's how they viewed it. A massive global pandemic killing hundreds of
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No, it was a golden opportunity to change society. So I think what's happening here is
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every opportunity they get, and it could be a pandemic, it could be, it could be anything,
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it doesn't matter, is going to be utilized in order to roll out as a, because you have to have
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some justification for rebuilding society, right? You can't just, when people have pretty high
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living standards, which we have in the West, especially in the United States, you can't just
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say, you know what, everybody, let's blow this whole thing up. You can't do that. Nobody will
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buy into it. But if everything's horrible, then people might actually buy into this. They would be
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willing to do anything in order to fix society if things are broken enough. So I don't think that
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they wake up one, I don't think that they woke up one day and said, you know what, let's release a
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virus into the world and let's kill a bunch of people. And then some people do. I know some people
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think that, but I don't think that's what happened. What I think has been happening for a long time is
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they've been looking for opportunities to do something like this. And they finally had something
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that was a believable justification. Climate change has been, and they identify climate change
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as the long-term justification very early on. They said COVID-19 is the golden opportunity to
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get this thing going. But COVID's not going to be here forever. Climate change is going to be even
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worse than COVID-19. And so we have to do these things now. Let's take advantage of everything being
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destroyed right now. We can build back better. This is where this phrase comes from. It actually comes
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from the World Economic Forum. Biden just adopted it after the fact. This idea of building back
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better so that we can prepare for a climate change catastrophe in the future. And so you can see
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there is this, there's going to be this endless rotation of different problems and crises that need
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to be solved in order for the elites to complete this plan of rolling out the Great Reset and working
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society. It's right now, it's COVID-19. And so every opportunity Joe Biden gets to exert more power,
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to try to seize more power with COVID as a justification, he's going to do it so long as
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people believe that's a valid justification. When that stops, and someday, hopefully it will stop,
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almost everyone will say, you know what, we shouldn't lock down society anymore. We don't
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need vaccine mandates. Well, then he'll switch to climate change. And then if people don't believe
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that, he'll find something else. And it will go on and on and on forever. And as long as you can
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control the narrative through the media, and especially through the media, but through academic
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institutions and other things, then you can get a lot of people to believe that. And if you can get
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enough people to believe it, well, then you can rework society over time. And I think that the difference
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between COVID and previous periods is that this is big enough and scary enough and killed enough
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people that a lot of people were willing, millions, tens of millions of people were willing to say,
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you know what, I don't care. You can do whatever you want. Just stop the crisis. You can take away
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all my freedom. I don't care. Just stop it. And that's the most terrifying circumstance. And now
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that a lot of people are not feeling that way, well, they realize we're running out of time. We got to
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keep this thing going as long as we possibly can. But I wouldn't be shocked if next year,
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they're not talking about this at all. Maybe it wouldn't surprise me at all. And instead,
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it's climate change. We're all going to die from that. Yeah. And I think, though, that I mean,
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looking at the polling, I remember seeing a poll from before the 2020 election and what people
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really thought was important and why they were voting the way that they were. Climate change came
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in like last place. Now, I also happened to see a Pew Research article this morning that said,
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really, generations are divided on climate change, as is usual with the kind of progressive
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issues. The youngest generation cares the most about them. I think it's like 75% of people ages
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18 to 29 in the United States are very concerned, they say, with global warming. I just don't really
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believe them. I don't actually believe that they really care enough to change their lives. And so
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I'm just wondering if there will be other crises that are manufactured, certainly before the midterms,
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I think a year from now, we're going to be talking about some other political crisis
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that Democrats used to say, you have to vote for us in order to save your life.
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I just don't know if climate change, you know, I can see the elites thinking that that's super
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important and really caring about that. I think for most people who just want to feed their families
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and have a good life, it's really hard for them to connect their daily experience with climate change.
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So I just don't know if that strategy is going to work.
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It's just they've been trying the strategy for a long time, a very long, very long time.
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And so if there was, I agree with you totally that the vast majority of regular people have
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already decided that in practice, regardless of what they tell pollsters, in practice,
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they do not believe that climate change is an existential threat to humanity. That's the line
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that Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, yeah, they're all, it's an existential
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threat. Existential threat means humanity could be wiped out by this problem. That's what it means.
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Because nobody actually believes that in practice, because if they did, we'd all be moving into
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yurts and living in the middle of nature because we don't want to die from climate change. No one
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believes that. And John Kerry certainly wouldn't be taking private jets. Of course not. And Barack
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Obama wouldn't have a huge mansion and a plot of land on Martha's Vineyard. Right. And Harry and
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Meghan wouldn't have an 18,000 square foot house in Malibu. Right. If they really cared. What they
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actually mean is they don't want you and me to contribute to climate change, however they think we are.
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Correct. So, but to answer your question, they've been doing this for a long time,
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which seems to suggest to me that they probably will keep going, even though it has not worked so
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far, because I think they would have given up already if they, I mean, the writing's been on
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the wall for a long time. This doesn't really work that well. So I think the goal has been over a long
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period of time to just keep ratcheting it up. The problem is we're not making it scary enough.
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Let's make it scarier and even scarier and even scarier. And every wildfire is now climate
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change. Every hurricane is now caused by climate change. Every natural disaster that exists,
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it doesn't matter if it has something to do with climate change or not, is because of climate
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change. People die from asthma. That's also climate change. It's whatever happens in society
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is being caused by climate change. It could be a snowstorm. It could be extremely cold weather.
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It doesn't matter. And so I, the reason I think they're going to stick with it,
00:25:37.760
at least for a while. Well, some genuinely believe it. Some do too, right? Some do,
00:25:43.080
especially regular people, you know, who are just walking around, you know, listening to,
00:25:48.360
you know, watching ABC news and stuff like that. Yeah. I've got, I think a lot of people believe
00:25:52.540
it. Some elites probably believe it, at least to some extent, just like they believe COVID is a
00:25:57.600
problem to some extent. But the point is you need a justification, right? When you're a hammer,
00:26:03.580
everything looks like a nail. So when you're looking for justifications all the time to rework
00:26:08.840
society and you have climate change and you've got people saying, well, this could cause all these
00:26:14.000
natural disasters and all these problems. Well, then that's a pretty good nail. We need to make
00:26:18.660
sure we keep hitting that. The reason why I think they might stick with it is because it is the perfect
00:26:23.320
justification. It's perfect because it's always in the future. It's not something that you actually
00:26:29.580
are dealing with now. It's this could happen 20 years from now, 30 years from now, then 20 or 30
00:26:33.820
years goes by, doesn't happen. And they can say, well, it's 20 or 30 years away. It's an existential
00:26:39.060
threat, meaning we'll all die from it. Yeah. But it's so far in the future that we're all going to
00:26:43.360
die from it that none of us will even be alive to know if this will wipe us all out. Right. And so
00:26:48.520
it accomplishes everything that they've always wanted, even before they came up with a climate change
00:26:55.380
crisis. So it does everything they want. So you don't think there's any legitimacy to the concern
00:27:00.260
that some people have about climate change? I think climate change is going, I think climate
00:27:04.060
change is obviously happening. And I think that climate has always been changing. And I think humans
00:27:08.860
may even be contributing to climate change and it might even cause problems. But all of the data that
00:27:13.920
we have, every data that you could possibly look at shows that climate change is not an existential
00:27:20.800
crisis, that the benefits of affordable energy are way, way better than the harms that could be
00:27:27.160
caused by any sort of contribution to climate change, that deaths from things like extreme
00:27:32.700
weather events have been steadily dropping over a long, long period of time in the midst of climate
00:27:38.400
change. That when you look at hurricanes and the number of hurricanes and intensity of hurricanes,
00:27:42.680
when you look at tornadoes, when you look at wildfires and the number of acreages burned and all
00:27:46.940
these different things, these things are not getting worse. Yeah. In some cases,
00:27:49.840
they're actually getting better and that humanity is surviving and even thriving because of technology,
00:27:56.540
because of affordable energy in a way that they never were prior to us having fossil fuels.
00:28:02.860
Fossil fuels is the cheap, affordable energy is the greatest thing that has ever happened to humanity
00:28:08.480
in terms of economics and improving the quality of life. And anything we do to reduce that is going
00:28:15.720
to harm, especially the lower income people in society. And, and more than that, even countries
00:28:22.800
that are sort of low and middle income countries, because they don't even have the infrastructure
00:28:26.640
that we have here. So, you know, maybe people here, a lot of people here can afford to pay a little bit
00:28:31.100
more for everything. Cause that's what's going to happen if we switch to renewable energy sources
00:28:35.160
like wind and solar, but in a country, in a, in a place like Africa, that's not the case.
00:28:40.080
They need as much affordable energy as possible right now. They don't even have hospitals that are
00:28:46.520
functioning all the time. The electricity goes out all the time. People die constantly just because
00:28:51.960
the hospital can't keep the lights on. So we are not there. They say they care about these people,
00:28:58.680
but then they're asking them to run their entire countries on windmills and solar panels. And it
00:29:04.440
makes absolutely no sense. So do I think that, um, and by the way, people like Michael Moore even agree
00:29:11.540
that this is a giant scam, that these plans for renewable energy don't work and will never work.
00:29:17.440
Um, and so it's not even just a left, right thing. There are a lot of people on the left,
00:29:22.000
if you're willing to look for them who admit that green energy and all of this stuff isn't going to work.
00:29:27.520
But Biden is supposedly pro green energy, anti-fossil fuels. Correct? Correct.
00:29:32.920
That's why he stopped the construction of the Keystone pipeline. But then he called on,
00:29:38.120
um, he, he called on foreign sources of oil to produce more oil. Correct. So again,
00:29:45.740
is this a malicious intent to try to weaken America's reliance on our own sources of oil and just
00:29:56.360
weaken America in general? I mean, it just seems like every decision he makes
00:30:01.320
is about the deprioritization of American prosperity, safety, security, and lives.
00:30:08.960
Yeah. I think that the way to think about it is that the people at the top, uh, including Joe Biden,
00:30:15.540
who is a big, great reset supporter. We know that John Kerry has told us that Joe Biden supports the
00:30:20.380
great reset and believes in all of this and that he's going to help implement it.
00:30:23.820
I think Biden himself as an individual would benefit from a great reset being turned off
00:30:29.880
and turned back on because his brain doesn't seem to be functioning. And sometimes that actually
00:30:35.260
works. You know, it works whenever my computer is running really slowly. I'm like, oh, I'll just need
00:30:39.360
to turn it off and turn it back on. I just need to reset it. I think there needs to be a factory
00:30:42.960
reset of Joe Biden. Without a doubt. And I think the people around Joe Biden are the ones pushing it
00:30:48.980
the most. To some extent, I do, but I do believe Joe Biden always believed in this kind of stuff.
00:30:54.820
He's been in these circles forever, but I also think that he's not all the way there. And you
00:31:00.140
know, he's the people around him are promoting these things and pushing it. And he's just kind
00:31:04.600
of going along and reading the teleprompter and it's all kind of jogs his memory. Yeah. I used to
00:31:09.340
believe this at some point in the past, I think, uh, right. And so he just goes in the same direction
00:31:14.720
that they want him to go in. The people who are around him are unquestionably all in favor of
00:31:20.460
this reworking of society and using climate change and COVID as the key justifications for making it
00:31:26.340
happen. John Kerry is the biggest, biggest supporter of this. And he is the, he's on the,
00:31:31.700
he's in the cabinet. He's the special climate envoy for John, uh, for Joe Biden. Um, he's been a close
00:31:37.520
political ally of Joe Biden for a very long time. Um, and he's, he's pushing this more than anybody
00:31:43.940
and openly telling other world leaders that Joe Biden supports all of this. So do I think that
00:31:49.080
Joe Biden is deliberately destroying the economy, deliberately making things worse? No, what I
00:31:54.860
think is happening is that they believe that this is all in the long run going to be for the better.
00:32:00.960
I think, yeah, they think maybe temporarily prosperity drops a little bit. Things are a little bit worse
00:32:06.540
for some people and not for others. Okay. Yeah, that's fine. But society will be so much better off
00:32:12.620
with us in charge. Just give us enough time. It's going to be painful at the start, but once we're
00:32:18.040
in charge of everything and we can, you know, turn on the money printers even more and, and just send
00:32:22.780
people cash in the mail. And a lot of people won't even ever have to work a day in their lives. And
00:32:27.000
we're going to save the planet from climate change. And we're going to make sure everyone's
00:32:31.120
taken care of, and we're going to have elder care and your two year old is going to be going to school
00:32:35.880
for now. You know, we can't even wait till they're five or six. We got to send them when they're two years
00:32:40.400
old now or three years old in the universal pre-k. So like this whole concept, all of these
00:32:45.720
things, they think we're all going to be better off, including us stupid sheep. We're all going
00:32:49.840
to be better off too. Just let the shepherds lead us to the promised land. And if we, it might be
00:32:54.760
painful at first, but eventually we'll get there and we'll all be better off for it. So do I think
00:32:59.500
they think that this is making us worse off? No, I think they believe that we're all going to be
00:33:04.780
better off with them in charge. It's just the transition period is a little rough. That's all.
00:33:09.480
Yeah. So what they would say is that we're currently experiencing that rough transition
00:33:14.540
period or that the worst is yet to come. I, I think that they believe this is, uh, the worst
00:33:21.880
that it's going to, I think that they think we're just about to turn the corner. That's what I think.
00:33:25.720
Now I could be wrong. And I do know some people who believe that one of the reasons they're being
00:33:30.060
insane about these COVID restrictions is because they actually know things we don't know about COVID.
00:33:36.980
COVID. I've heard that theory that maybe they think that COVID is going to get a lot worse before it
00:33:42.020
gets better. And that that's part of all of this, that they don't want to tell people because they're
00:33:46.720
afraid to tell people. That's very charitable. That's a charitable interpretation that they actually
00:33:51.340
care so much about our wellbeing that they're really trying to get Trump voters to get vaccinated.
00:33:57.360
The psychology of these people is difficult to pin down, right? Because on the one hand,
00:34:02.800
it's like with climate change, I think a lot of them do believe climate change is a big problem,
00:34:07.240
right? But do they really believe it's an existential crisis is going to wipe us all out?
00:34:11.840
I don't know, but I think that it helps them sleep at night to know, you know what,
00:34:15.440
all this power grabbing that we're doing, all this money that we're making, it's worth it. And you guys
00:34:20.360
are all going to be better off too. Don't worry about it. And even if, uh, you know, climate change
00:34:25.060
isn't a crisis, that's okay. Even if COVID isn't as deadly as we think it could be, you know,
00:34:30.340
that's okay. Because at the end of the day, these, this reworking of society is a good thing.
00:34:35.400
This is all just a golden opportunity to do the things we should be doing,
00:34:38.480
but you stupid sheep won't listen to us. And under normal circumstances, we need crises to get you
00:34:43.660
people to change the social contract and do this, all this other stuff.
00:34:47.200
Okay. One thing that you've written about recently that I don't know necessarily fits into what we're
00:35:01.920
talking about, but maybe it does is Biden's attack on the second amendment. You wrote about this
00:35:08.460
recently for the Federalist. And you said that without passing any laws or without pushing any
00:35:14.220
policy, they are actually infringing on people's second amendment rights. What do you mean by that?
00:35:19.720
Right. So when a lot of people have been focused on a lot of different things over the past few weeks,
00:35:24.880
so it's understandable that people didn't catch this, but I believe in August, late August,
00:35:30.000
the Biden administration announced new sanctions on Russia. And those sanctions involved, um, banning all
00:35:37.920
ammo coming from Russia and guns too, but a lot of guns had already been banned from Russia.
00:35:43.080
Now, the reason that matters is because we are in the midst right now of one of the worst ammo
00:35:48.360
shortages the United States has ever had gun and ammo. And this is just one of the many things that
00:35:53.400
we are short on right now. Exactly. And the biggest reason for the ammo and gun shortage,
00:35:58.760
uh, in particular is not just because you had COVID related shutdowns and things like that,
00:36:03.460
but also because there are lots of people buying guns and tons of them, uh, gun sales in the first
00:36:09.160
six months of 2021, where it's the highest, uh, period of time that that is for the first six
00:36:15.120
months of the year for gun sales ever. Because people knew Biden was going to try to come after
00:36:19.520
our guns. Exactly. And 2020 was also one of the, one of the best years for guns. Because people saw
00:36:24.820
their cities burning down. Exactly. So there are reasons for these ideas, right? So Biden comes in
00:36:31.340
and they say, you know what, we're going to put these sanctions on Russian ammo. Well,
00:36:35.780
there is no American made, well, there is American made ammo, but it's being sold out really quickly.
00:36:40.100
So gun sellers have been importing, um, uh, ammo from other countries and Russia is one of those
00:36:46.100
countries. Lots of ammo gets imported from Russia. It's one of the top countries for distributing ammo
00:36:51.260
to the United States outside of, you know, us companies, based companies. So he issues these
00:36:57.080
sanctions and he claims the reason they're issuing the sanctions is because of this case, um, a year ago
00:37:03.000
where, um, uh, a opposition leader to Vladimir Putin got poisoned. Okay. Yes. There had already
00:37:09.660
been sanctions issued based on this. And that happened over a year ago when Joe Biden wasn't
00:37:14.040
president. So now a year later, they're saying we're going to have a whole new round of sanctions
00:37:18.960
on Russia to really teach him a lesson. Now, how does banning ammo from being imported in the United
00:37:25.020
States? Well, we're having an ammo shortage. Does that really hurt Vladimir Putin? Is that really,
00:37:29.840
is he going to, you know, just shake his fists at the world and just give up now?
00:37:34.480
While we're sending $64 million to Afghanistan. Exactly. Of course not. It doesn't make any sense.
00:37:40.120
The reason he's doing this is it's because of part of a larger movement to make buying a gun,
00:37:45.700
buying ammunition and, and just be exercising your second amendment rights, increasingly more
00:37:50.820
difficult to do. There are other things that are happening as well. Early in the Biden administration,
00:37:55.420
they, um, killed a Trump regulation that would have made it impossible for financial institutions,
00:38:03.180
banks specifically to deny people access to capital loans and things like that, um, on the basis of
00:38:10.140
the kind of business they're in. So long as that business is legal. So in other words, a bank couldn't
00:38:15.140
say to a gun manufacturer, we're not going to give you a loan because you're a gun manufacturer,
00:38:20.080
even though otherwise you'd be qualified. We're not going to do that. We're not going to,
00:38:23.100
we're going to discriminate against you because we don't like that you sell guns. Right?
00:38:27.180
So the Trump administration put in a rule that at the very end of their administration that said,
00:38:31.540
you can't do this. If, if they are qualified financially and it's a legal business,
00:38:35.680
then you got to give them the loan. If you're going to give loans to other people,
00:38:39.000
the first thing Biden did literally the first week he was in office was kill that regulation
00:38:44.060
right away so that banks could discriminate against gun sellers and manufacturers. And that's
00:38:49.940
exactly the kind of thing that we've started to see. Some banks have openly said they're not going,
00:38:55.200
they're going to remove these kinds of businesses from their portfolio so that they are not providing
00:39:01.260
them access to capital. Now, if you're a gun manufacturer or just a gun seller, even if you
00:39:05.800
have a small gun shop, but you can't get access to a bank account, then how can you possibly function
00:39:11.540
in the modern world? You can't, you basically have to close down. And so this is part of a larger
00:39:17.780
movement. This is part of the great reset. It's part of a larger movement, a sort of collusion of sorts
00:39:24.340
between the government issuing a regulation that helps financial institutions penalize some industries,
00:39:30.520
not other industries that don't fit in with what elites want. So elites don't want guns. They know they
00:39:36.320
can't just ban guns outright because we have the second amendment. So instead they allow financial
00:39:41.600
institutions to ban guns indirectly by just making it impossible to sell them financially. And more
00:39:49.200
and more financial institutions are doing this. It's just like with social media companies and you
00:39:54.260
have the government allowing social media companies to exist, allowing them because they had to make
00:39:59.480
special carve outs in order to do that legally, allowing them to have all of this power and leeway to
00:40:05.000
silence anyone they want, whenever they want. And then of course, these social media companies start
00:40:10.240
silencing only the people who are opposed to the policies that these left-wing people in government
00:40:17.780
support, right? If this was, if all the social media companies were conservative and they were all
00:40:24.440
silencing liberals, there's literally no way that they wouldn't immediately turn to using government to
00:40:30.580
make sure that these social media companies were doing this. So this is, again, that's also part of the
00:40:35.560
Great Reset. It's all one big plan to use finance, to use government regulations, to use investors who
00:40:43.500
are also saying we're going to pull all of our money, groups like BlackRock, saying we're going to
00:40:49.680
try to divest money from undesirable industries and guns for many of these people is part of that.
00:40:56.820
It's all one big group of people. They all know each other. They all hang out with each other. They all
00:41:00.960
give money to the same causes. They all go to Davos together. They all go to Davos events and say
00:41:05.900
they're going to roll out a plan to transform all of society all over the world. They're not hiding it.
00:41:10.840
They're not hiding it. So the idea that it's a conspiracy theory is nonsense. It's not even a
00:41:16.700
theory at this point. It's just out there. It's just out there. Well, on our last conversation on
00:41:21.860
YouTube, they put like a fact check underneath it, which was just a link to the Wikipedia page about
00:41:27.160
what the Great Reset was. And I'm like, thank you for actually affirming what Justin is saying.
00:41:32.540
It literally just said, this is the Great Reset, World Economic Forum, blah, blah, blah. And so it's,
00:41:38.700
I mean, it's verifiable. Maybe some people disagree with certain interpretation of certain policy,
00:41:44.000
and maybe some people listening are for some of the policies and restrictions that are being put in
00:41:48.900
place for other reasons who aren't pro Great Reset. The fact of the matter is, is that this is
00:41:56.020
playing into the transformation of society. Now, one thing that I find interesting, and I think it's
00:42:01.640
true just in learning from you, is that this is not communist. This is not even really socialist.
00:42:08.020
Yes, it's collectivist in a particular way, and it's certainly devaluing things like individual
00:42:13.480
rights and property rights, but it's not Marxist in the sense of Marxism that we know, correct? And so
00:42:21.180
you don't see someone like AOC or Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders who are advocating for, quote,
00:42:26.160
direct democracy. You don't see those people as kind of playing into the Great Reset, right?
00:42:31.040
That's right. That's right. And this is very important. When Glenn Beck, Glenn Beck and I have
00:42:34.620
been working on a book for this for like over a year now. And one of the things initially that we
00:42:39.020
struggled with the most, I mean, for six months, was what is this exactly? And initially, it was like,
00:42:45.880
well, this is just a way to do socialism. Clearly, this is just some sort of way to do socialism. But the
00:42:50.000
more we looked into it, the more we realized this isn't really about socialism. It's not really
00:42:55.180
about communism. Socialism and communism are best defined through collective property ownership
00:43:00.020
and management. OK, it's about collective ownership of property. Primarily, this is not
00:43:05.500
about collective ownership of property. Under this model, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy that
00:43:10.380
you own nothing. This is one of their certain people have used this exact language on the World
00:43:15.000
Economic Forum's website. Yep. Members of government, by the way, it was a member of government who wrote
00:43:19.260
that in one of the Scandinavian countries. So it's not that everyone will collectively own
00:43:24.720
the property. It's that the elites will own the property and you will become renters. You'll rent
00:43:30.120
the property from them and the government will give you money so that you can survive and everything.
00:43:34.580
But they're going to be in control of it. There is no collective ownership of property. There's
00:43:39.720
management, collective management of property in the sense that you elect people who then decide how
00:43:44.860
property is going to be controlled, except you don't elect the bankers. You don't elect central
00:43:50.440
banks. You don't elect people at the International Monetary Fund. You don't elect the United Nations.
00:43:55.420
You don't elect any of these people except for the people in your own national government who have
00:44:00.120
all sold their souls to this system anyway. And so it doesn't even really matter.
00:44:03.720
Um, so in that sense, uh, it's not socialistic because it is controlled by the elites. Yeah. In
00:44:11.400
reality, in, in a way, this is this system of government to have, uh, I mean, technology has
00:44:17.740
changed things. Finance has changed over time, but in a way this has always existed. Yeah. Always
00:44:23.060
for the whole history of human civilization from the beginning of time, as soon as we actually started
00:44:28.720
having civilized, uh, uh, communities where the leaders in charge and all of that, as soon as we
00:44:34.120
started doing that, there were elites in society who developed and decided, you know what, we should
00:44:39.440
have all the power and control. And the Karl Marx would agree with me on this. Exactly. He would be
00:44:46.900
totally in line with what I'm saying right now. So do I think that communism, which is designed to
00:44:52.500
destroy all of that and to make it so there is no class system at all. And everybody has exactly the
00:44:57.320
same thing according to their needs. Of course not. Everyone, you end up with tyranny anyway,
00:45:02.320
and authoritarianism anyway. So this is kind of just skipping some steps. They're saying let's,
00:45:06.960
in actuality, I think there are some people who think, you know what, to avoid the socialist
00:45:12.800
blood in the streets, the revolutionary Marxism type thing, we have to do this. This is the only way
00:45:19.880
we can make sure that we elites still have control and that society doesn't just break down into
00:45:25.080
nothing. And I actually think that that's the subtext to when John Kerry and people like that
00:45:30.460
talk about a need for a new social contract and how the world is demanding a new social contract.
00:45:36.380
And we're seeing this with people in the streets and Black Lives Matters and all this other stuff.
00:45:40.560
He looks at that and he says, these people want to destroy everything, everything, and just have a
00:45:48.200
communist revolution, essentially, and just go to a totally different thing. And we want to stop that.
00:45:54.040
That's what John Kerry believes. But we know we can't stop it by just having individual liberty
00:45:59.640
and doing all of these other things, because of course that doesn't work. What we need is we need
00:46:03.900
to be in charge of everything, but do it in a way that is make sure that they get their little slice
00:46:10.500
of the pie too. And that's why they are buying into all these left-wing causes, right? It's because
00:46:16.340
it's throwing these people who are marching in the streets a bone.
00:46:19.220
And not only that, but if people like John Kerry and the people at the World Economic Forum see
00:46:25.400
individual rights as an impediment to their goals, then they are on the same page in some ways with
00:46:34.260
the critical race theorists and people at Black Lives Matter and Antifa, because those people also
00:46:40.860
want to do away with due process and individual rights. That's one of the tenets of critical race
00:46:44.740
theory questions the effectiveness and the morality of things like due process, free speech, all of
00:46:52.920
those things they are very clear about in their writings, proposing that we adopt critical race
00:47:00.320
theory. And so they're on the same page there. So I could also see people like Kerry trying to
00:47:06.720
use them at least to a certain point. Okay, you can aid and abet the destruction of these things,
00:47:13.080
but we'll take it from there. Exactly. And we'll go in a different direction. We're not going towards
00:47:16.820
communism. We're going to go in this way. And I don't even think those people think that they
00:47:22.300
Okay, we have a few minutes left. I want to get your reaction to we were talking about socialism and
00:47:39.140
AOC. She was at the Met, the Met Gala last night. She was in this white dress that says tax the rich
00:47:49.060
on the back of it. This was specially made for her. And she was asked about this also in an interview.
00:47:56.880
So we'll go ahead and play that. When Aurora and I were first kind of partnered, we really started
00:48:03.360
having a conversation about what it means to be working class women of color at the Met. And we said,
00:48:11.040
you know, we can't just play along, but we need to break the fourth wall and challenge some of the
00:48:15.760
institutions. And, and, you know, while the Met is known for its spectacle, we should have a
00:48:23.800
We should have a conversation about it. We should have a conversation about what she I mean, she makes
00:48:28.260
at least just in her salary what she's making almost $175,000 a year is that working class?
00:48:33.800
Well, it is in Washington, DC. That's where they're all millionaires. And you know, the I don't
00:48:38.720
know what I used to know this, but the average amount of wealth held by a member of Congress is like
00:48:45.160
an absurd, it's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. I think it might be even
00:48:48.380
over a million dollars is the average. So, you know, I guess in that sense, she is kind of working
00:48:53.440
class, I guess. But this is, of course, is absurd. This is actually ties into what we were talking
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about before. How do you, if you're the elites and the AOCs of the world, scare you a little bit
00:49:05.520
because you don't want all of society to break down. You don't want all the institutions to disappear
00:49:10.000
because you run all the institutions. You like that. Well, then you flatter them. You invite them to
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the Met Gala. You give them lots of money. You make them very popular. You make them an elite.
00:49:19.440
Yeah, you make them an elite. And the thing about AOC is she is an elite. She would like to say she's
00:49:24.520
not, but she's very wealthy. She has two homes. She is. She drives a Tesla. She drives a Tesla.
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She goes to the Met Gala, you know, wearing absurdly expensive clothes that working class women don't wear.
00:49:37.280
She makes herself feel better by saying, OK, but I'm going and I'm making a statement about it. I'm making
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all of these people uncomfortable. But really, a lot of people there would also say that they're
00:49:47.540
socialists. They probably would have voted for AOC if they lived in her district. They would
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definitely vote for her for president. So a lot of those people wearing thousands and thousands of
00:49:56.300
dollars who are very rich are right in line or they say they're right in line with AOC's policy
00:50:01.500
position. So she's not making anyone uncomfortable there. She is right in line with all of them. And I
00:50:07.180
think what she said is true, that they're also just trying to make her an elite.
00:50:13.180
And so and I mean, I think that that will probably be accomplished, don't you?
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Oh, I think it's already been accomplished. And I think you see that with Black Lives Matter
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to the leadership in Black Lives Matter to millionaires now.
00:50:26.320
Yeah, exactly. Well, how did that happen? Because you what you did was you made them celebrities.
00:50:32.060
The elites made them celebrities. They funneled millions of dollars into their institutions.
00:50:36.900
They allowed them to make millions of dollars from the money that they funneled in. And now
00:50:41.800
all of a sudden they've got all these houses and they've got security, private security,
00:50:45.780
and they have all of these wonderful things that they supposedly hated not that long ago.
00:50:50.440
When in doubt, when you get a really troublesome socialist leader, the way to get them on your side
00:50:56.740
is to just flatter the heck out of them, make them rich beyond belief and bring them into your
00:51:02.760
class. Because at the end of the day, who doesn't really want to be an elite? These people want to be
00:51:08.040
wanted. Yeah. And and that's what you see at the Met Gala. Yep. And it makes them feel better about all
00:51:14.040
of it when they can say that they're advocating for vulnerable people. Cori Bush is another very far
00:51:19.740
left congresswoman who said that she actually said on television. Yeah. You know, I'm going to have
00:51:26.420
private security if I have to pay two hundred dollars or two hundred thousand dollars. I'm
00:51:30.600
going to pay for private security. But funding the police needs to happen. I mean, that is that
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perfectly characterizes what so many of these professing socialists in Congress, just how they live
00:51:42.740
their lives. I like to say that people like AOC, they're really just LARPing. They're LARPing a
00:51:48.920
socialist, which is live action role play. If people don't know, they're really just pretending
00:51:53.860
to be socialist. Hassan Piker, I think that's his name. He is like a he's a streamer. He claims to be
00:52:01.120
a socialist. He had this picture that said, like, eat the rich or tax the rich. And then it came out
00:52:06.200
that he was buying this over a million dollar home in L.A. And they try to, you know, act dumb and say,
00:52:12.720
oh, so I'm a socialist. So that means that I can't buy a house. No, no, no. You know,
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that's not, you know, that's not what we're saying. You are criticizing the elites while you
00:52:22.320
are one. That's exactly right. And that's and again, I think that this is all part of the plans
00:52:27.600
from elites is it's a way to get people out of the way. And now what you've done is you've actually
00:52:32.760
the elites have actually won because we are sitting here saying these people are totally
00:52:38.680
delegitimized. They're not even real socialists. And now what you've done is you've you've
00:52:43.080
delegitimized the socialist movement, even from people who might be in favor of socialism,
00:52:47.520
because even the leaders of socialism are now looking more like elites.
00:52:51.240
So anytime you get someone who becomes a popular socialist, they become an elite, too.
00:52:55.500
You can never really get that grassroots Marxist socialist utopia that that the theorists and
00:53:02.960
academics and stuff always say they want because you always end up with a class of elites at the
00:53:07.880
top who end up just keeping all the money and power for themselves anyway. So it all this is this
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is a story as old as time. And yet they keep perpetuating it over and over and over again,
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no matter how many times it fails. Yeah, it's really amazing.
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It really is amazing. And you do an amazing job of explaining all of that for us and breaking it
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down. Thank you so much. How can people support you?
00:53:28.340
Well, they can go to stopping socialism dot com where I'm editor in chief and of course,
00:53:31.820
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00:53:36.940
Awesome. Thank you so much, Justin. Thanks, Ali.