Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 15, 2021


Ep 489 | My Response to Brenè Brown’s Toxic Post


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

Words per Minute

168.7864

Word Count

7,622

Sentence Count

444

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

Today we talk about the California Recall, the abortion law in Texas, and why we should be wary of people who claim to have a monopoly on empathy and mental health. Also, Brene Brown is a woman who transitioned from being a man to being a woman and now is an MMA fighter.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.
00:00:11.900 Happy Wednesday.
00:00:14.020 Hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far.
00:00:16.360 This has kind of been a long feeling week for me.
00:00:18.580 I felt like today was Friday and that's never really, that's never really a good feeling.
00:00:23.440 That's not the feeling that you want to have.
00:00:24.660 You want to wake up on a Thursday or on a Friday and feel like it's still Wednesday
00:00:32.420 and then you're happily surprised when you realize that it's the end of the week.
00:00:36.560 Today was not one of those days.
00:00:37.960 Now that doesn't mean that I'm not excited to be here with you guys because I very much am
00:00:41.780 and I always have so much to talk about at the end of every week that I feel like I didn't
00:00:45.980 get everything out that I wanted to get out.
00:00:47.700 So in a way, it is a good feeling because I realize I still have two more episodes with
00:00:52.560 you guys this week to talk about the things that I want to talk about.
00:00:57.100 Today, we are going to talk just a little bit briefly about the California recall election
00:01:03.080 right at the top.
00:01:04.520 And then I'm going to talk about this Brene Brown Instagram post about the abortion law
00:01:10.680 in Texas and where our friend Brene Brown has it wrong, very, very wrong, and why we should
00:01:17.940 be wary of following people that make this kind of argumentation, especially people who
00:01:24.740 claim to basically have a monopoly on empathy and mental health.
00:01:30.700 And then if we have time, we're also going to talk about this MMA fighter, a guy who lived
00:01:37.880 for 30 years as a man, then transitioned so-called into being a woman and now is an MMA fighter
00:01:45.180 and one against, you know, a natural born woman in a match the other day and what this
00:01:53.420 all means and why we should be pushing back against this kind of absurdity for the sake
00:01:59.380 of reality, for the sake of sanity, for the sake of morality, and for the sake of the rights
00:02:04.800 and safety and the fairness of women and girls.
00:02:09.200 Let's first talk just about the recall election since that's something that happened last night.
00:02:13.920 So Governor Gavin Newsom, Democrat, was not recalled.
00:02:18.160 We were hoping that he would be.
00:02:20.040 There was a big recall effort.
00:02:22.680 There were a lot of people on board.
00:02:24.000 There were a lot of people who were super enthusiastic about it, millions of people who
00:02:27.440 were super enthusiastic about it.
00:02:29.520 And we didn't know who would be on the Republican side to replace him.
00:02:33.340 There were a lot of Republicans who were, I'm sure, really great contenders.
00:02:38.120 Caitlyn Jenner was a contender.
00:02:41.460 Some people were on board with that.
00:02:43.480 A lot of people weren't.
00:02:45.580 But Larry Elder kind of came in hot towards the end there and said, I'm running.
00:02:49.340 And he kind of stole the show.
00:02:51.500 He posed the most serious threat, it seemed like, to Gavin Newsom.
00:02:55.500 That's why you saw ridiculous headlines from outlets like the LA Times saying that he's the
00:03:01.920 black face of white supremacy.
00:03:03.980 That's why you saw every major media outlet, every major Democratic politician coming to
00:03:11.400 Gavin Newsom's aid and trying to slander Larry Elder.
00:03:18.880 Like, if you ever wondered if for whatever reason you were still on the fence about whether
00:03:24.000 or not the media is on the side of the Democratic Party wholeheartedly, completely, all you have
00:03:31.360 to look at is the coverage of Larry Elder and the recall election in California.
00:03:37.680 I mean, they're not even trying to hide their bias anymore.
00:03:41.700 And so the recall election did not go through.
00:03:45.500 Obviously, that means that Larry Elder is not going to be the governor of California.
00:03:49.920 And at least right now, Gavin Newsom is up for election in 2022.
00:03:54.280 So, hey, you never know what can happen.
00:03:56.120 But everyone knew that it was a long shot.
00:03:59.540 Yes, there was a lot of enthusiasm behind Larry Elder and this recall effort.
00:04:05.840 But California is extremely liberal.
00:04:09.840 It has been a Democratic stronghold for a hot minute now, and it is extremely corrupt.
00:04:17.800 It is impossible, almost impossible in some places in California for a Republican to,
00:04:26.120 even have a fair shot.
00:04:28.660 And now a lot of people on the left are saying that because Larry Elder is bringing up voter
00:04:33.980 fraud and people are talking about accusations of voter fraud, that this is yet another Republican
00:04:40.160 assault on democracy and that there's no evidence of that whatsoever.
00:04:45.420 Well, I think a lot of people know, Democrat and Republican who have been living in California
00:04:49.600 for a long time, that there's a lot of funny business that goes on, that there's a lot of
00:04:54.180 corruption.
00:04:54.600 And so maybe it's true that this recall election was just business as usual for California.
00:05:01.080 But that doesn't mean it was on the up and up like that doesn't mean that it was an election
00:05:06.820 with a whole lot of integrity, just because I'm not sure very many elections in California
00:05:11.080 do have a whole lot of integrity.
00:05:13.740 The major cities in this country, especially the ones that are in strong blue areas, are
00:05:19.960 known for their corruption places like Chicago, places like L.A. and San Francisco and D.C.
00:05:26.440 People know this.
00:05:28.500 And so, yeah, they may be right.
00:05:30.340 Maybe there was no new kind of fraud in this recall election.
00:05:35.480 But can you honestly say that you think that this was a completely honorable process?
00:05:41.380 The recall election had universal mail-in voting, I believe.
00:05:47.260 And they also have ballot harvesting, which is legal in California.
00:05:52.740 And ballot harvesting is basically where a third party can come and they can get a whole
00:05:56.760 bunch of ballots from, say, like a nursing home or something like that.
00:06:01.940 And they, of course, are not supposed to mess with the ballots and they're not supposed to
00:06:06.260 convince the people who are voting on those ballots to vote a certain way.
00:06:11.480 But we've seen instances all across the country, not just in liberal states, of ballot harvesters
00:06:17.560 actually trying to influence the votes of the people that they are picking up those ballots
00:06:23.780 from.
00:06:24.780 And so it's an unfortunate system.
00:06:27.060 Another unfair thing is that Gavin Newsom was allowed to raise as much money as he wanted
00:06:32.860 to.
00:06:33.300 That's the law there.
00:06:34.360 But there was a limit to how much Larry Elder, for example, could raise.
00:06:39.020 And so it wasn't a fair fight.
00:06:40.980 But I think that he ran a pretty effective campaign and he was able to highlight so much
00:06:47.720 of the incompetence of of Gavin Newsom and California.
00:06:52.560 You'll notice, and this is something that I heard Larry Elder point out, is that you'll
00:06:59.880 notice that all of the proponents of Gavin Newsom, all of the people that were against
00:07:05.160 the recall, they didn't say that they were against the recall or for Gavin Newsom because
00:07:09.940 they thought Gavin Newsom has done a good job.
00:07:12.440 By no objective standard is Gavin Newsom doing a good job.
00:07:16.640 For the first time in California's history, their population is actually going down year over
00:07:21.720 a year.
00:07:22.000 Why is that happening?
00:07:23.640 Because of draconian restrictions in the name of public health, quote unquote, because
00:07:30.080 of the homelessness crisis that has absolutely wrought destruction on places like San Francisco
00:07:37.260 and L.A.
00:07:38.480 That is being caused and exacerbated not by a lack of funds, not by a lack of tax dollars,
00:07:44.260 that's for sure.
00:07:45.040 Not by a lack of liberal policy, obviously, not even by a by limited housing.
00:07:50.840 It is being caused by enabling and incentivizing homelessness that also enables and incentivizes
00:07:59.400 indirectly, at least, public defecation, public indecency, public drug use that make certain
00:08:07.720 parts of these cities in California completely unsafe and completely unlivable.
00:08:12.580 People, again, on both sides of the aisle can tell you San Francisco is not the place that
00:08:17.100 used to be sure and the super nice neighborhoods where they're never going to defund the police
00:08:23.680 and they're never going to allow for homeless encampments to be.
00:08:28.600 Yeah, those places are probably nice.
00:08:31.440 But in places where more average people live who are not multimillionaires, it is becoming
00:08:39.000 unlivable.
00:08:39.760 It's becoming unsafe.
00:08:40.800 And that is exactly why you saw so much enthusiasm behind this recall effort.
00:08:46.020 Now, apparently it wasn't enough, but that's why you saw so much enthusiasm.
00:08:49.680 The homelessness crisis, the crime crisis, the inordinately high taxes and accomplishing what,
00:08:58.440 by the way, accomplishing what?
00:09:01.160 Such as such a high tax rate.
00:09:04.480 So many burdensome regulations.
00:09:07.660 And for what?
00:09:08.440 Like, what has Gavin Newsom actually done well?
00:09:11.480 How can anyone who lives in the state of California say, I like the way the state is going?
00:09:16.500 I think that we're going in a better direction.
00:09:18.440 I think that things are actually better here than they were before.
00:09:21.780 I mean, it is such a perfect example of what far left progressive policies do.
00:09:28.240 They always destroy.
00:09:29.500 They always tear down.
00:09:31.020 They never offer anything better in the way of building things up, which is so ironic that
00:09:36.760 Biden's theme is build back better.
00:09:40.080 Progressivism doesn't have the capability inherently to do that.
00:09:43.360 Progressivism rails against institutions, rails against what was and what is, but it never has
00:09:49.240 a better replacement.
00:09:50.640 And so that's why you always just see chaos and confusion and destruction wherever those
00:09:55.180 far left progressive policies are implemented.
00:09:57.440 That's certainly what we're seeing in California.
00:09:59.060 And it's a real bummer.
00:10:00.500 Like, it's a real bummer that people just said, you know, vote no on the recall.
00:10:05.720 And oh, gosh, Larry Elder is just this scary guy.
00:10:09.780 But what's your like, what was your alternative?
00:10:12.360 Your alternative is terrible, corrupt, ineffective, incompetent leadership that is making your state
00:10:18.900 even worse.
00:10:19.960 Like, just because Larry Elder is a Republican, that's really what it was like, ooh, big, scary
00:10:27.960 Republican.
00:10:29.040 You can't even possibly think that maybe some of the policies that he's advocating for to
00:10:34.440 get homelessness down, to get crime down, to get the population rate growing again, to
00:10:40.520 try to fix some of the budget issues that are going on in California, to try to root out some
00:10:46.400 of the corruption, to try to fight against the corrupt teachers unions, which are ruining
00:10:50.640 the public schools in California, to try to support school choice.
00:10:56.200 Like, those are all good policies.
00:10:58.580 The guy probably would have been pretty socially libertarian.
00:11:02.400 Um, and so y'all missed out, like y'all really missed out.
00:11:06.340 Now, again, I'm not surprised because they're some of the most liberal people in the country
00:11:12.320 and good job for Larry Elder and good job for the other Republican contenders as well, who
00:11:17.220 tried to fight a fair fight, who tried to fight an effective fight.
00:11:20.100 I think we all knew that there were very low chances of that happening.
00:11:25.580 Now, if you're a conservative in California, which there are a lot of you there, it's really
00:11:30.660 LA and San Francisco that kind of hold the state hostage.
00:11:34.640 Is this true in many states?
00:11:36.940 The big cities that are so populous really run the show for everyone else.
00:11:42.660 I, a few years ago, went to Bakersfield and Visalia and spoke at a couple events there.
00:11:47.820 Some of the nicest people in the world, you guys are some of the kindest people.
00:11:53.060 Like, I'm from the South, and I thought that you guys were like the nicest and most polite
00:11:57.700 and complimentary and just kindest, warmest people that I've ever met.
00:12:02.120 Middle California is a beautiful part of the country with beautiful, kind people that
00:12:06.780 unfortunately are bearing the brunt in some cases of these really terrible policies.
00:12:12.260 And I think a lot of, you know, the questions that you guys have are, OK, should you stay and
00:12:18.000 fight or leave?
00:12:18.920 Because if every Republican left California, then certainly there wouldn't have been any
00:12:25.560 enthusiasm behind this recall effort.
00:12:27.520 Larry Elder wouldn't have been able to run and shine a light on a lot of the bad things
00:12:31.980 going on in California.
00:12:34.100 And you certainly have no chance in 2022.
00:12:36.840 But the question is, do you have a chance anyway?
00:12:39.840 Even if all the Republicans stayed, even if you were able to drum up so much enthusiasm
00:12:45.260 and show what a terrible leader Gavin Newsom is.
00:12:49.840 I mean, y'all did a really good job of doing that this time and it didn't work.
00:12:53.260 Like, how would it work in 2022?
00:12:55.900 I think that's a fair question.
00:13:04.360 I think and, you know, I'm open to disagreements on this.
00:13:09.100 I think that conservative people in blue states and maybe maybe even purple states, depending
00:13:16.340 on how deep purple, should move to red states and make them redder.
00:13:20.220 Like we need those conservative strongholds.
00:13:22.540 We need conservative Californias in the sense that it's such a strong conservative area.
00:13:30.700 It's such a strong conservative state that there is just no way for a liberal to come
00:13:35.920 in and muck things up like they have that on the Democratic side, for sure.
00:13:40.300 They have lots of states that you're just not going to be able to win if you're a Democrat.
00:13:44.540 We certainly have some red states that are like that.
00:13:47.180 But your life will be better.
00:13:49.540 I've never heard someone say, hey, I moved from Oregon or Washington or California or
00:13:54.740 New York to Florida or Texas or Oklahoma or South Carolina and my life got worse.
00:14:00.800 I've never heard someone say that.
00:14:03.320 Everyone that I know that moved from a blue state to a red state, so I call them an unfree
00:14:09.080 state to a free state, has said, my life is so much better.
00:14:12.500 I am surrounded by some like-minded people and I'm able to do the things that I want to
00:14:19.580 do.
00:14:19.900 I don't pay as much in taxes.
00:14:21.340 Things are less expensive.
00:14:22.980 Yeah, it's better.
00:14:24.380 It's better in red states.
00:14:25.580 And that's why you don't see typically people move from red states to blue states, even if
00:14:30.740 they are liberal themselves, because you get to enjoy the fruits of conservatism, even as
00:14:36.040 you are voting against them.
00:14:37.320 Now, of course, and this goes without saying, I think, to my audience, but if you move to
00:14:44.360 a red state, if you move to a red state, don't you be bringing those blue policies here,
00:14:49.480 OK?
00:14:50.180 Like, don't do that.
00:14:51.860 We don't want to mess around with that, because remember why you left.
00:14:55.300 It's not like California Democrats are not different than Oklahoma Democrats.
00:15:02.160 I mean, they might be slightly, but they all kind of have the same ideology and given enough
00:15:06.960 power, they will go the same direction.
00:15:08.860 That doesn't mean that you can't be a moderate in your policies.
00:15:11.400 That doesn't mean that you can't give some credence to some ideas that progressives have,
00:15:15.600 or maybe you're economically moderate, whatever.
00:15:18.320 That's fine.
00:15:18.900 Just realize that if you vote for a progressive in a red state and everyone around you does
00:15:25.300 too, then you are going to bring that red state into the same state that the blue state
00:15:35.780 is in that you just fled from.
00:15:37.700 So that's the hard truth about that.
00:15:40.680 But I do say we might as well just lean into the polarization and move to a place where you
00:15:49.620 know that you can raise your family, at least for the foreseeable future, in a way that is
00:15:54.620 free, in a way that aligns with your values.
00:15:57.200 Now, for some of you, that's not possible.
00:15:59.360 You got to stay and fight.
00:16:00.540 You live in a purple state.
00:16:01.600 You think that you can tip it over the edge.
00:16:03.780 Do that.
00:16:04.400 I'm not speaking for everyone.
00:16:05.720 I know everyone has a different situation where maybe you can't move.
00:16:09.240 And God has called you right there to make the impact that he wants you to make.
00:16:13.180 And that is all well and good.
00:16:15.820 But I'm saying that if you can, maybe that is something that you should finally consider.
00:16:21.140 And for anyone who says, well, you know, who's going to witness to those people in blue states?
00:16:27.000 I'm supposed to be sharing the gospel and being the light of Christ in these dark places.
00:16:32.140 Well, I will say just because a state is red doesn't mean that everyone there is a Christian.
00:16:38.060 That doesn't mean that you can't be a light in dark spaces.
00:16:40.740 Like there are very dark spaces, dark places in red states too.
00:16:45.140 Yes, they may be governed by governors in general who value freedom more.
00:16:49.740 But there's a lot of opportunity in red states to share the gospel and to be a light of Christ.
00:16:55.880 Republican doesn't equal Christian.
00:16:58.680 It does typically equal more free, though.
00:17:01.500 And so opportunities abound everywhere.
00:17:04.220 All right, let's talk about Brene Brown and the post that she made on Instagram.
00:17:18.360 I'll put it up on the screen if you're watching on YouTube.
00:17:20.960 I will also I'll read it to you.
00:17:23.260 I might not read every single line because it's a little long, but you can go on her Instagram.
00:17:28.960 I think it's still the last post that she posted and you can read the whole thing.
00:17:32.020 And so she posted in her notes app, which she then took a screenshot of and posted on
00:17:36.620 her Instagram.
00:17:37.720 She said this, the abortion ban in Texas, she's a Texas woman, if you didn't know, is
00:17:42.680 not about protecting vulnerable lives.
00:17:45.320 It's about protecting power, the kind of power that's based in fear, scarcity and white supremacy.
00:17:51.760 It's power fueled by self-protection and tinged with the ever-present threat of violence and
00:17:57.500 now bounty hunting vigilantism.
00:18:00.860 So first, I forgot to tell you, if you don't know who Brene Brown is, I assume that everyone
00:18:05.420 knows who she is.
00:18:06.220 She is very popular and for good reason, for understandable reason.
00:18:11.200 She is an author.
00:18:12.540 She is a mental health professional and she is a speaker.
00:18:19.160 She is widely influential for her advice, her wisdom on how to deal with trauma, with how
00:18:27.060 to deal with insecurity, with how to deal with self-loathing.
00:18:31.000 And truly, her words, when you read them, when you hear them feel like a balm to your
00:18:37.660 wounds, your emotional and mental wounds.
00:18:41.000 She is a great writer.
00:18:42.280 She is a great communicator.
00:18:44.120 I completely think that her popularity is, it makes sense.
00:18:51.120 It makes sense.
00:18:51.700 And I know especially why women go to her.
00:18:55.160 There are things that she says that are true.
00:18:57.180 There are things that she says that are good.
00:18:59.200 There are things that she says that are right and wise.
00:19:03.540 Now, she is coming from a secular perspective.
00:19:06.580 I don't know if Brene Brown identifies as a Christian, but if you read her work, what you
00:19:11.860 will see underneath the layers of poetic, you know, poetic psychotherapy is a focus on the
00:19:24.220 self, on self-fulfillment and self-empowerment.
00:19:28.880 That's why I wrote about her in my book, You're Not Enough and That's Okay, Escaping the
00:19:33.560 Toxic Culture of Self-Love.
00:19:35.260 She certainly plays into this.
00:19:37.100 While a lot of what she says sounds good and maybe some of what she says actually is good
00:19:42.520 and is sound advice, at the end of the day, she exists, her work exists to show you how
00:19:49.760 to find fulfillment in yourself rather than in Christ.
00:19:54.720 In the world of Brene Brown and other kind of self-love, self-help gurus like her, God,
00:20:01.280 your spirituality, whatever it is, is kind of coming along for your ride of self-discussion,
00:20:07.100 your journey to find yourself and to manifest your truest self.
00:20:12.660 God might be a helper in that journey, but He is not the journey and He is certainly not
00:20:17.940 the destination in the work of Brene Brown.
00:20:21.540 So this is a quote that I included in my book when I was writing about her from her book,
00:20:26.280 Braving the Wilderness, the truth about who we are lives in our hearts.
00:20:30.360 So this is a very new age idea, even though she might not be entirely new age.
00:20:35.340 This is a very new age idea that departs from what we know about Orthodox Christian theology,
00:20:44.000 that the truth about who we are, our real identity, our best self is found deep inside
00:20:49.460 of ourselves.
00:20:49.900 And our goal in life is to dig through all of the rubble of self-doubt and insecurity and
00:20:55.540 self-loathing to find that true self.
00:20:57.860 And it's not only ourselves who are kind of putting impediments between, you know, our
00:21:05.540 between ourselves and our true selves, but it's also the world.
00:21:11.180 So it's the patriarchy, it's society, it's capitalism, it's toxic relationships, it's
00:21:16.900 all these unfair societal expectations.
00:21:19.120 So we have to throw all those things off and throw off, you know, everything that hinders
00:21:24.660 us in kind of a blasphemous way, and we have to find who we truly are.
00:21:29.180 And in her work, you see that this is paramount to everything.
00:21:33.240 And once you find the truth that is in your heart about yourself, you will find basically
00:21:38.280 this flawless goddess that just needs to be unleashed.
00:21:43.560 And if you manifest her and you manifest your deepest desires and dreams, then you will finally
00:21:48.440 be happy.
00:21:49.040 Your relationships will be better and your life will be more fulfilling and you'll be
00:21:54.660 able to navigate all of life's ups and downs in a healthier and more effective way.
00:22:00.340 But that's not true.
00:22:01.420 That's not what the Bible says about us.
00:22:03.400 Who we are isn't deep down inside of us somewhere that needs to be unleashed and manifested.
00:22:10.260 Who we actually are is not this perfect goddess.
00:22:13.400 Who we actually are on the inside is a sinner.
00:22:19.520 That's what Ephesians 2 tells us, that there are those who are dead in Christ.
00:22:24.800 We are dead in our sin, which all of us were, by the way.
00:22:28.200 That's all what Ephesians 2 says, are those who are alive in Christ, who have been saved
00:22:33.120 by grace through faith in Him.
00:22:34.860 We've got the old self and we've got the new self.
00:22:38.220 Those are our two identities.
00:22:39.780 And so when we reach inside of ourselves and dig into our hearts, we're not going to find
00:22:44.320 perfection.
00:22:45.080 We're going to find corruption.
00:22:46.900 That is why we need Christ.
00:22:49.520 We're not enough for ourselves.
00:22:51.220 We're not enough for our salvation.
00:22:52.600 We're not enough for our sanctification.
00:22:54.220 We're not enough for our satisfaction.
00:22:56.200 But Christ is all of those things.
00:22:58.420 That doesn't mean that we don't take care of ourselves or we don't steward our bodies well.
00:23:02.800 That doesn't mean that we shouldn't go to a counselor when we need it.
00:23:05.740 I certainly am an advocate of that or that you don't need medication if you are actually
00:23:10.740 struggling with real depression and anxiety.
00:23:12.800 I'm not against those things.
00:23:14.760 All I'm saying is that you're never going to find the true fulfillment and satisfaction
00:23:18.180 that you are looking for inside yourself because the self can't be the problem and the solution.
00:23:24.580 All of those things can only be found in Christ.
00:23:27.060 And our imperfections and our flaws are not due to societal factors.
00:23:31.560 They're not the fault of other people or even past trauma, even though all of that might be real.
00:23:36.980 The flaws and the failures that we find inside of ourselves are due to our nature.
00:23:44.040 It's due to human nature.
00:23:45.700 And in order to be lifted out of that, in order to become new, in order to become sanctified and whole,
00:23:52.900 we need Christ.
00:23:54.020 We need Christ.
00:23:54.920 And so these are two divergent messages that you are going to hear from the gospel
00:23:58.720 and you're going to hear from Brene Brown.
00:24:00.600 Again, that doesn't mean you discount everything that she has ever said, but understand as a
00:24:05.180 Christian, you are starting at a fundamentally different place, a different understanding
00:24:09.340 about human nature, a different understanding about the heart, about the soul, about identity,
00:24:14.580 about belonging and purpose than someone like Brene Brown.
00:24:19.400 And so all of that said, knowing, at least in general, I don't know everything about her,
00:24:24.380 everything that she's ever written, but knowing in general her worldview and where she's coming
00:24:28.540 from when she is giving advice, I'm not surprised to see this.
00:24:33.940 I knew that she leaned left.
00:24:35.620 Like she's talked about things like this or at least implied things like this over, you
00:24:40.340 know, the past few years.
00:24:42.760 I'm not surprised at all that she has come out in favor of abortion.
00:24:46.800 This woman who claims to be, you know, a self-love guru and very empathetic and very compassionate
00:24:54.200 and very understanding apparently has no compassion and empathy for the unborn woman who is defenseless
00:25:01.680 and who is an innocent human being inside the womb who is being torn apart limb by limb with
00:25:08.780 forceps through abortion.
00:25:11.020 Apparently that little person doesn't deserve our compassion.
00:25:14.800 And so in order to try to distract from that, which is the reality of abortion, which is
00:25:21.040 the reality of what you're advocating for, if you are pro-abortion or pro-choice, they
00:25:26.220 might be, you know, different justifications, but the ends are the same.
00:25:30.400 She tries to impugn the motives of everyone else.
00:25:33.780 She tries to say that it couldn't possibly be because people actually care about babies inside
00:25:39.760 the womb, it must just be for these other very nefarious reasons.
00:25:45.600 So let me go on and read a little bit more.
00:25:47.740 Texans can now carry handguns without a license or training.
00:25:51.080 So this is one example of how this is not really about pro-life because Texans can now
00:25:56.240 carry handguns without a license or training.
00:25:58.220 Look, the Second Amendment, people who are pro-life are typically pro-Second Amendment, not
00:26:03.400 anti any restriction or regulation whatsoever, but they're pro-Second Amendment and the thinking
00:26:08.940 is the same.
00:26:09.600 We believe in protecting innocent life.
00:26:12.340 We obviously don't want abuses with guns.
00:26:16.600 We obviously don't like violence that's perpetuated by people who have guns.
00:26:21.720 We don't like any of that.
00:26:23.240 But you can be for the right of something and be for the liberty to do something and to
00:26:29.040 do something lawfully and be against the misuse of that thing.
00:26:33.380 And so we are pro-Second Amendment for the same reason that we're pro-life.
00:26:37.340 We believe in the ability and the right to protect innocent life.
00:26:41.040 And so this doesn't make the point that she thinks it's making.
00:26:43.440 Texas has had the highest number of death penalty executions in the U.S.
00:26:49.000 Again, I don't find it hypocritical at all to be for the death penalty for convicted murderers
00:26:57.240 and be against the death penalty for innocent babies.
00:27:01.680 I don't see the hypocrisy at all.
00:27:03.220 What I do think is hypocritical, which is exactly what she's saying that she is, is
00:27:07.460 to be anti-death penalty for convicted murders, but pro-death penalty for innocent babies.
00:27:12.820 That's the hypocrisy.
00:27:14.160 That's a grotesque example of immorality and inconsistency right there.
00:27:19.040 Not the other way.
00:27:20.060 As we've talked about, I can link it in the description to this episode.
00:27:23.080 As we have talked about, the death penalty is prescribed by God before the Mosaic law for
00:27:31.500 murder.
00:27:32.380 That's what he calls for.
00:27:33.940 For murder, for especially premeditated murder, God demands the death penalty.
00:27:39.660 Now, you can totally be against the death penalty and still recognize that you can be against
00:27:44.460 the death penalty in the United States for a variety of reasons.
00:27:47.120 You could say the process isn't fair.
00:27:48.680 You could say the possibility of a wrongful conviction and taking someone's life in the
00:27:53.640 United States is just, it's not, it's not worth it.
00:27:57.620 You can recognize that the death penalty is not unbiblical and therefore is not unjust per
00:28:03.960 se, because there's no biblical support for the idea of the death penalty being in itself
00:28:10.760 unjust.
00:28:11.460 Again, go back and listen to that episode if you haven't listened to it already.
00:28:15.300 But you can still be against the death penalty because of certain policies and processes
00:28:19.460 in the United States.
00:28:21.080 That's fine.
00:28:21.940 I still don't think it makes sense to be pro-abortion, pro the death penalty for babies
00:28:27.820 in the womb, but anti-death penalty for convicted murderers.
00:28:31.660 I just don't think that makes sense.
00:28:33.400 Literally, the same combination of chemicals is used to stop a baby's heartbeat in the second
00:28:39.940 trimester as is used for lethal injection for convicted murderers on death row.
00:28:47.020 And so you're using the same combination of lethal chemicals that, and this is graphic,
00:28:52.380 in the second trimester abortion, you have to ensure fetal demise.
00:28:56.280 And the way that you do this is you have to put a needle through the woman's abdomen into
00:29:03.320 the amniotic sac where the baby is.
00:29:05.200 We're talking about a moving, kicking, squirming, sucking thumb baby at this point in the second
00:29:12.520 trimester.
00:29:12.960 By the way, still in the first trimester, that baby looks like a baby.
00:29:16.840 Second trimester, you're feeling kicks.
00:29:20.120 And unfortunately, this happens thousands of times a year in the United States.
00:29:24.100 That needle full of a lethal chemical combination goes through the woman's abdomen.
00:29:30.400 It goes into the amniotic sac, or if the doctor is really skilled, the abortionist is really
00:29:35.240 skilled, it goes directly into the heart of that squirming baby.
00:29:39.660 The lethal injection is pushed into the heart, and horrifically, the baby even just instinctively
00:29:46.720 tries to move away from the pain of that needle.
00:29:50.340 And when the needle goes into the heart or into the amniotic sac, that causes the baby to
00:29:58.420 go into cardiac arrest, that baby then dies.
00:30:01.660 What a horrific way to die.
00:30:03.020 And you're talking about an innocent child.
00:30:06.260 You're talking about a baby.
00:30:07.980 You're talking about a defenseless baby who's literally just trying to grow and is given
00:30:13.580 a lethal injection to die.
00:30:16.200 And then that baby, of course, is removed, is torn apart limb by limb with forceps.
00:30:21.000 And so to be for that, to call that bodily autonomy, to call that reproductive justice,
00:30:28.560 but be against the death penalty, which is actually more humane when administered to convicted
00:30:35.340 murders, that just doesn't make any sense.
00:30:38.800 Maybe be against both.
00:30:40.340 Sure, I'm open to hearing your argument.
00:30:42.380 But again, being for it for babies and against it for convicted murders just doesn't make a
00:30:47.440 whole lot of sense, especially for this, you know, so-called compassionate self-love guru.
00:31:01.440 She goes on to say, the abortion ban is not about protecting life.
00:31:04.260 It's about protecting power.
00:31:05.640 This process is not an exercise in democracy.
00:31:08.260 It's dismantling the Constitution with the help of SCOTUS.
00:31:11.480 Show me, Brene Brown, where you see a constitutional right to abortion.
00:31:16.060 Where is it?
00:31:16.860 I know the, by the way, the white male justices who decided Roe v. Wade, they said that they
00:31:25.300 found it somewhere in the nooks and crannies implied in the Constitution and some kind of
00:31:30.040 right to privacy.
00:31:31.820 But even if you are pro-abortion, you can see that that was a terrible judicial decision.
00:31:36.960 Like it just didn't hold up to constitutional muster.
00:31:39.460 And unfortunately, it's led to the slaughter of millions and millions of babies.
00:31:43.160 Dismantling the Constitution.
00:31:45.020 Again, Brene Brown, constitutional scholar, tell us where you see a right to kill a child
00:31:49.840 in the Constitution.
00:31:50.760 Tell us how you got there.
00:31:51.860 I'm interested.
00:31:53.040 With the help of SCOTUS, by the way, the reason why SCOTUS didn't decide not to do anything
00:31:58.940 in this particular law was actually procedural.
00:32:01.600 It didn't have anything to do with the justices' views on abortion necessarily.
00:32:08.320 It had to do with the procedure.
00:32:10.260 They will probably hear a challenge to this case.
00:32:13.060 Again, the voting restriction legislation is not about preventing voter fraud.
00:32:17.280 It's about silencing Black and brown citizens.
00:32:19.740 We've talked about this on this podcast, the voting restriction legislation.
00:32:22.040 Restriction legislation, actually, the legislation makes it easier in some cases to be able to
00:32:29.740 vote early, to be able to vote on weekends.
00:32:33.260 In some cases, it requires voter ID.
00:32:36.320 So I guess you're implying that Black and brown voters aren't able to get ID, but they are able
00:32:42.640 to get vaccine verification, to be able to, you know, function in polite society.
00:32:50.800 Okay, it actually is about preventing voter fraud.
00:32:54.400 It actually is.
00:32:55.340 It doesn't make it harder for Black and brown people to vote.
00:32:57.940 That's just a lie.
00:32:58.740 That's just a myth.
00:32:59.600 Again, Brene Brown, you are welcome on this show to try to tell me, again, how abortion
00:33:04.580 is constitutional, where that right exists, and then you can also tell me how specifically
00:33:09.880 which parts of the voting legislation specifically will restrict Black and brown citizens.
00:33:16.720 I would love to know.
00:33:17.300 White male power over is making a last stand, and they're afraid.
00:33:21.960 That makes them dangerous.
00:33:24.100 White males decided Roe v. Wade.
00:33:26.460 What are you talking about?
00:33:27.740 And by the way, the majority of the pro-life movement is made up of women, okay?
00:33:33.580 It's made up of women.
00:33:34.580 And she addresses that.
00:33:35.600 Oh, it's my favorite part.
00:33:36.460 So she goes on to say that Abbott and Patrick have shown no real leadership in protecting
00:33:43.000 all Texans, but they seem ever ready to serve us up to keep the threatening zip-tie-wielding
00:33:49.280 far right at bay.
00:33:51.120 What?
00:33:52.020 A group that they themselves radicalized using race, gender, immigration, and anti-trans bathroom
00:33:58.240 bills.
00:33:58.960 What are you talking about?
00:34:00.540 Like, give us some specifics.
00:34:02.160 Even as their approval ratings fall across Texas, the Faustian bargain remains solid,
00:34:07.700 and women on the far right remain a strong voting constituency.
00:34:11.640 Again, far right to people like this is anyone to the right of, I don't know, Bernie Sanders
00:34:18.780 or Wendy Davis, to use Texas' example.
00:34:21.300 Greg Abbott is not far right.
00:34:25.660 He is not far right.
00:34:27.120 Like, there are a lot of conservatives that have a problem with Greg Abbott because they
00:34:30.540 don't believe that he is actually conservative enough.
00:34:33.700 Now, I happen to believe that he's pretty conservative.
00:34:37.780 I think that he is a lot more conservative sometimes than his dissenters give him credit
00:34:43.720 for.
00:34:44.120 But there are plenty of people on the right who just describe themselves as solid conservatives,
00:34:49.400 not far right, who don't believe that Greg Abbott is far right enough.
00:34:54.140 And so people who support Greg Abbott, some of them are just, I mean, they're squarely
00:34:59.380 in the center or they're center right.
00:35:01.740 Far right women.
00:35:03.260 She doesn't even know what she's talking about.
00:35:06.240 Bathroom bills, she puts in quotation.
00:35:08.000 So again, I think that she's coming out in favor of men sharing bathrooms with girls,
00:35:12.840 even as their approval ratings, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:14.960 I already said that.
00:35:15.800 Um, so she said, because many in Texas homes and churches, girls are still raised to believe
00:35:20.000 that the safest way to access power is to protect it and stand next to it.
00:35:24.140 So if we're lucky, we can catch the dripping.
00:35:26.160 And so Brene Brown thinks it's the only reason that a woman would be pro-life.
00:35:30.120 The only reason that a woman would be against the horrific procedure that I just described
00:35:34.720 of little girls and boys being torn apart limb from limb with forceps is because we want
00:35:39.820 power, like I talked to a group of pregnancy center directors last week, their Texas pregnancy
00:35:47.300 center directors, all, uh, I think it was about 20 or 25.
00:35:50.580 All of them were women, except for one male.
00:35:53.540 Um, they have the opposite of power.
00:35:55.660 They have the opposite of power.
00:35:57.560 They feel like they are up against a force that is bigger than them every single day.
00:36:02.160 And thank God, thank God, his work doesn't always make headlines, but thank God they are
00:36:07.980 right now overwhelmed with new clientele because of this, uh, because of this Texas legislation.
00:36:15.160 You've got women who are pregnant, who don't know what to do.
00:36:17.700 They're showing up at these pro-life pregnancy centers, whereas maybe before they were showing
00:36:21.120 up at a Planned Parenthood and they're saying, can you please help me?
00:36:23.980 And these pro-life pregnancy centers are saying, yes, what do you need?
00:36:27.820 We are going to help you any way that we can.
00:36:30.220 Do you need help with, uh, do you need help with your, uh, health insurance?
00:36:35.440 Do you need help finding refuge?
00:36:37.520 If you're in an abusive situation, do you need help with parenting classes?
00:36:40.860 Do you need help with enrolling in classes with, you know, educational classes?
00:36:44.460 Do you need help with baby supplies?
00:36:46.760 Like, what do you need?
00:36:48.120 These pro-life pregnancy centers say, here I am.
00:36:52.060 I'm ready to help you.
00:36:53.340 I posted, there is a pregnancy center in Texas who desperately needed baby supplies.
00:36:57.820 And I posted on Twitter, there were, I think there were like 1600 items, um, that were
00:37:03.980 needed on their baby registry.
00:37:05.820 I posted on Twitter, I posted on Instagram within minutes, uh, everything had been bought.
00:37:10.860 I mean, people are so pro-lifers are so eager for tangible ways to help women.
00:37:16.000 And let me just say, if you're out there, um, anyone, but Brene Brown specifically, why
00:37:20.460 don't you go to your pro-life pregnancy center?
00:37:22.320 Why don't you see what it's all about?
00:37:23.680 Before you start running your mouth about the motives of pro-life women just being, catching
00:37:30.020 the drippings of power, uh, from men in charge, why don't you go to your local pregnancy resource
00:37:36.720 center?
00:37:37.040 Why don't you see what it's all about?
00:37:38.560 Why don't you see what they're up against?
00:37:41.480 Why don't you see what it looks like to actually offer women a choice?
00:37:46.460 Something that people at Planned Parenthood don't do because they get a lot of money from
00:37:50.860 those abortions, the pro-life pregnancy centers don't get money from women keeping their babies.
00:37:57.080 They were literally doing what they do out of love of Christ and love for other people,
00:38:02.760 compassion, love for both the mom and the baby.
00:38:06.980 So Brene Brown, uh, before you start impugning the motives of people who you do not know, part
00:38:14.340 of a movement that you do not understand, saving babies that you do not care about.
00:38:19.320 Why don't you learn a little bit?
00:38:20.960 Why don't you educate yourself?
00:38:22.440 I am happy to do that for you.
00:38:25.360 Hopefully you will listen to this podcast.
00:38:28.320 Um, so she goes on to say pro-life women are just trying to catch the drippings of power
00:38:33.020 of men in charge.
00:38:33.800 Give me a, give me a break.
00:38:35.380 They just forgot to mention that we'd pay for protecting that power with our bodies, our minds
00:38:41.300 and our spirit.
00:38:41.920 You know, who is paying with your position or for your position with their body?
00:38:46.760 Babies, Brene Brown, babies.
00:38:49.600 A price that if you're not willing to pay, it leaves you with no other option, but to
00:38:52.960 fight.
00:38:53.280 That's not easy.
00:38:53.940 But I think the fight against bully leaders who use their power to exploit the people they
00:38:57.580 lead is worth every tough moment.
00:39:00.820 You know, who's being exploited by people with power who have no power themselves?
00:39:05.700 Babies, babies.
00:39:08.360 As a fifth generation, Texas, Brene Brown says, I hope we're all ready to fight for our
00:39:12.660 power and our state.
00:39:13.580 And if you're looking at us from another state and thinking, uh, what the H-E-Double
00:39:18.100 Hockey 6, she says, don't take your eyes off your own backyard.
00:39:21.360 Texas isn't an anomaly.
00:39:23.420 It is a blueprint.
00:39:26.280 Well, I surely hope so.
00:39:29.540 I surely, I surely hope so.
00:39:31.860 God would be so merciful to this country if more women were showing up at pro-life pregnancy
00:39:38.140 centers and getting the help that they need and the love and compassion they deserve for
00:39:42.120 both themselves and their babies than if they were going to Planned Parenthood and hearing
00:39:49.700 that they're not really carrying a baby, that they're just carrying a comp of cells, that
00:39:52.980 their life will be ruined if they actually go through with having this baby.
00:39:56.400 The Planned Parenthood, especially in places like Texas, often refuse to, if that woman
00:40:01.840 comes in and she says, hey, I want to keep my baby.
00:40:05.080 I'm just coming to Planned Parenthood because I didn't know what else to do.
00:40:08.180 Um, can you please refer me to a pro-life pregnancy center or something or somewhere that can
00:40:13.500 help me?
00:40:14.260 Very often, Planned Parenthood will not do it because they're not pro-choice.
00:40:18.040 They're pro-abortion.
00:40:18.800 They're pro-profit.
00:40:19.600 They're pro-making money.
00:40:21.420 Um, and so people who, uh, support this practice, who support this industry and who say they're
00:40:28.340 speaking up for the vulnerable truly, they have no idea what they're talking about.
00:40:31.320 Now, Brene Brown, she talks about some other things that, um, are going on in Texas.
00:40:37.060 She talks about how Greg Abbott is standing up against mask mandates, um, in schools.
00:40:43.000 Well, again, show, give me some evidence of what you're saying that mask mandates have
00:40:48.980 stopped the spread of coronavirus in school children, because I can show you a CDC study
00:40:53.860 of 90,000 students in Georgia that shows that it doesn't.
00:40:57.400 Like I've got data to back up the fact that we don't need mask mandates in schools.
00:41:00.920 Do you have anything besides your feelings?
00:41:04.320 I don't think so.
00:41:05.180 I don't think that you do.
00:41:06.460 Now she does go on to talk about the uninsured rate and she talks about, um, child food insecurity
00:41:12.300 in the nation.
00:41:13.520 And look, I am totally like, if you want to bring these things to the table and you want
00:41:18.240 to advocate for policies that help more children have insurance that fight food insecurity,
00:41:25.740 um, we can talk about that.
00:41:28.000 Like, I am totally willing to talk about that.
00:41:29.620 I want to create a culture of life.
00:41:31.200 I don't think that's always primarily through policy, but I think policy is certainly part
00:41:35.000 of it.
00:41:35.260 I think that we can create a culture of life, uh, voluntarily through our efforts and through
00:41:41.020 our personal acts of love and charity, which thankfully still abound in the United States,
00:41:46.520 even if they don't make headlines.
00:41:47.840 But I am totally willing to hear policy proposals.
00:41:50.680 And I think Republicans should in general, be willing to hear policy proposals that make
00:41:55.000 people's lives better, that make it easier to bring life into the world without so much
00:41:59.660 anxiety, 100%.
00:42:01.460 But it doesn't have to be either or.
00:42:04.840 Like, if your solution to these problems in our, in, in our country, if your solution
00:42:12.280 to these problems in your state is that you should kill more children before they're able
00:42:17.840 to take their first breath, that's not actually a compassionate solution.
00:42:21.280 Like, you're the only one, the pro-choicers like Brene Brown are the only ones that are
00:42:27.840 saying it has to be either or.
00:42:29.400 Like, either, uh, we can protect life outside of the womb or protect life in the womb.
00:42:34.940 I'm saying both and.
00:42:36.420 I'm saying bring me your, bring me your solutions.
00:42:38.820 All you've done here, Brene Brown, is list problems.
00:42:41.660 All you've done is say, look, these are problems that are happening in Texas.
00:42:45.540 Okay.
00:42:46.000 So again, your solution is just to make it easier to kill the babies in the womb.
00:42:49.560 Why don't you give some policy solutions to try to fight against some of the problems
00:42:54.000 that you're talking about, about food insecurity and lack of insurance?
00:42:56.960 Like, let's hear your proposals then.
00:42:59.020 Like, if you really want to fight, what it seems like you're fighting is for greater abortion
00:43:03.360 access and not for the other problems that you've listed.
00:43:07.100 I mean, it's just so hypocritical.
00:43:08.800 It's just a reminder that the people that you think are smart, that sound good, um, they
00:43:14.540 actually don't critically think at all.
00:43:16.820 They're really, they're really not, um, very wise.
00:43:21.300 Like she's someone who has sold a whole lot of books, made a whole lot of money, um, you
00:43:26.300 know, pretending to be wise.
00:43:28.860 Um, but actually I think that she fits the description, at least right now of Romans one,
00:43:34.760 pretending to be wise, they became fools.
00:43:38.120 Pretending to be wise.
00:43:39.820 Brene Brown has become a fool.
00:43:41.940 Um, and her words are foolish and they're calloused and they're wrong.
00:43:46.260 Now I'm sure she does have true compassion for women in vulnerable situations, but if
00:43:51.020 that's the case, go to your local pro-life pregnancy center, Brene Brown.
00:43:54.460 They're doing good work.
00:43:55.440 They're doing better work than you writing a screed on your notes app, putting it on Instagram
00:44:00.840 and disabling all comments on it because you don't want to hear any, um, you don't want
00:44:08.340 to hear any pushback.
00:44:09.800 All right.
00:44:11.000 Okay.
00:44:11.420 I don't have time to talk about the MMA fighter.
00:44:13.340 Maybe I'll do it.
00:44:14.480 Um, maybe I'll do it tomorrow, but actually tomorrow I really wanted to just talk about
00:44:18.740 theology.
00:44:19.200 I'm just kind of like over the news right now and all of the absurdity that's going on
00:44:24.820 and we haven't done, I mean, we do, we try to take a break every week from the news and
00:44:28.700 do something about, you know, anxiety or do something about the topic or do something,
00:44:33.920 um, you know, about like a most misused verse.
00:44:38.080 Uh, but we haven't done just like strictly biblical, nothing to do with politics or anything like
00:44:43.480 that, um, or nothing to do with anything that's going on in the world in a while.
00:44:47.380 It feels like we haven't done the most misuse in a while.
00:44:49.680 So if you want that, then let me know.
00:44:53.320 And, um, yeah, we'll, we'll do that.
00:44:55.860 We'll do that tomorrow.
00:44:56.940 Now, if something crazy happens tonight and I have to cover it tomorrow, I will, but my
00:45:01.040 plan is to do a theology Thursday tomorrow.
00:45:03.740 All right.
00:45:04.940 All right.
00:45:05.600 I will see you guys back here tomorrow.
00:45:08.400 Have a great rest of your day.