Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 489 ｜ My Response to Brenè Brown’s Toxic Post

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:11.900 Happy Wednesday.

00:00:14.020 Hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far.

00:00:16.360 This has kind of been a long feeling week for me.

00:00:18.580 I felt like today was Friday and that's never really, that's never really a good feeling.

00:00:23.440 That's not the feeling that you want to have.

00:00:24.660 You want to wake up on a Thursday or on a Friday and feel like it's still Wednesday

00:00:32.420 and then you're happily surprised when you realize that it's the end of the week.

00:00:36.560 Today was not one of those days.

00:00:37.960 Now that doesn't mean that I'm not excited to be here with you guys because I very much am

00:00:41.780 and I always have so much to talk about at the end of every week that I feel like I didn't

00:00:45.980 get everything out that I wanted to get out.

00:00:47.700 So in a way, it is a good feeling because I realize I still have two more episodes with

00:00:52.560 you guys this week to talk about the things that I want to talk about.

00:00:57.100 Today, we are going to talk just a little bit briefly about the California recall election

00:01:03.080 right at the top.

00:01:04.520 And then I'm going to talk about this Brene Brown Instagram post about the abortion law

00:01:10.680 in Texas and where our friend Brene Brown has it wrong, very, very wrong, and why we should

00:01:17.940 be wary of following people that make this kind of argumentation, especially people who

00:01:24.740 claim to basically have a monopoly on empathy and mental health.

00:01:30.700 And then if we have time, we're also going to talk about this MMA fighter, a guy who lived

00:01:37.880 for 30 years as a man, then transitioned so-called into being a woman and now is an MMA fighter

00:01:45.180 and one against, you know, a natural born woman in a match the other day and what this 0.97

00:01:53.420 all means and why we should be pushing back against this kind of absurdity for the sake

00:01:59.380 of reality, for the sake of sanity, for the sake of morality, and for the sake of the rights

00:02:04.800 and safety and the fairness of women and girls.

00:02:09.200 Let's first talk just about the recall election since that's something that happened last night.

00:02:13.920 So Governor Gavin Newsom, Democrat, was not recalled.

00:02:18.160 We were hoping that he would be.

00:02:20.040 There was a big recall effort.

00:02:22.680 There were a lot of people on board.

00:02:24.000 There were a lot of people who were super enthusiastic about it, millions of people who

00:02:27.440 were super enthusiastic about it.

00:02:29.520 And we didn't know who would be on the Republican side to replace him.

00:02:33.340 There were a lot of Republicans who were, I'm sure, really great contenders.

00:02:38.120 Caitlyn Jenner was a contender.

00:02:41.460 Some people were on board with that.

00:02:43.480 A lot of people weren't.

00:02:45.580 But Larry Elder kind of came in hot towards the end there and said, I'm running.

00:02:49.340 And he kind of stole the show.

00:02:51.500 He posed the most serious threat, it seemed like, to Gavin Newsom.

00:02:55.500 That's why you saw ridiculous headlines from outlets like the LA Times saying that he's the 0.99

00:03:01.920 black face of white supremacy. 0.97

00:03:03.980 That's why you saw every major media outlet, every major Democratic politician coming to 0.96

00:03:11.400 Gavin Newsom's aid and trying to slander Larry Elder.

00:03:18.880 Like, if you ever wondered if for whatever reason you were still on the fence about whether

00:03:24.000 or not the media is on the side of the Democratic Party wholeheartedly, completely, all you have

00:03:31.360 to look at is the coverage of Larry Elder and the recall election in California.

00:03:37.680 I mean, they're not even trying to hide their bias anymore.

00:03:41.700 And so the recall election did not go through.

00:03:45.500 Obviously, that means that Larry Elder is not going to be the governor of California.

00:03:49.920 And at least right now, Gavin Newsom is up for election in 2022.

00:03:54.280 So, hey, you never know what can happen.

00:03:56.120 But everyone knew that it was a long shot.

00:03:59.540 Yes, there was a lot of enthusiasm behind Larry Elder and this recall effort.

00:04:05.840 But California is extremely liberal.

00:04:09.840 It has been a Democratic stronghold for a hot minute now, and it is extremely corrupt.

00:04:17.800 It is impossible, almost impossible in some places in California for a Republican to,

00:04:26.120 even have a fair shot.

00:04:28.660 And now a lot of people on the left are saying that because Larry Elder is bringing up voter

00:04:33.980 fraud and people are talking about accusations of voter fraud, that this is yet another Republican

00:04:40.160 assault on democracy and that there's no evidence of that whatsoever.

00:04:45.420 Well, I think a lot of people know, Democrat and Republican who have been living in California

00:04:49.600 for a long time, that there's a lot of funny business that goes on, that there's a lot of

00:04:54.180 corruption.

00:04:54.600 And so maybe it's true that this recall election was just business as usual for California.

00:05:01.080 But that doesn't mean it was on the up and up like that doesn't mean that it was an election

00:05:06.820 with a whole lot of integrity, just because I'm not sure very many elections in California

00:05:11.080 do have a whole lot of integrity.

00:05:13.740 The major cities in this country, especially the ones that are in strong blue areas, are

00:05:19.960 known for their corruption places like Chicago, places like L.A. and San Francisco and D.C.

00:05:26.440 People know this.

00:05:28.500 And so, yeah, they may be right.

00:05:30.340 Maybe there was no new kind of fraud in this recall election.

00:05:35.480 But can you honestly say that you think that this was a completely honorable process?

00:05:41.380 The recall election had universal mail-in voting, I believe.

00:05:47.260 And they also have ballot harvesting, which is legal in California.

00:05:52.740 And ballot harvesting is basically where a third party can come and they can get a whole

00:05:56.760 bunch of ballots from, say, like a nursing home or something like that.

00:06:01.940 And they, of course, are not supposed to mess with the ballots and they're not supposed to

00:06:06.260 convince the people who are voting on those ballots to vote a certain way.

00:06:11.480 But we've seen instances all across the country, not just in liberal states, of ballot harvesters

00:06:17.560 actually trying to influence the votes of the people that they are picking up those ballots

00:06:23.780 from.

00:06:24.780 And so it's an unfortunate system.

00:06:27.060 Another unfair thing is that Gavin Newsom was allowed to raise as much money as he wanted

00:06:32.860 to.

00:06:33.300 That's the law there.

00:06:34.360 But there was a limit to how much Larry Elder, for example, could raise.

00:06:39.020 And so it wasn't a fair fight.

00:06:40.980 But I think that he ran a pretty effective campaign and he was able to highlight so much

00:06:47.720 of the incompetence of of Gavin Newsom and California.

00:06:52.560 You'll notice, and this is something that I heard Larry Elder point out, is that you'll

00:06:59.880 notice that all of the proponents of Gavin Newsom, all of the people that were against

00:07:05.160 the recall, they didn't say that they were against the recall or for Gavin Newsom because

00:07:09.940 they thought Gavin Newsom has done a good job.

00:07:12.440 By no objective standard is Gavin Newsom doing a good job.

00:07:16.640 For the first time in California's history, their population is actually going down year over

00:07:21.720 a year.

00:07:22.000 Why is that happening?

00:07:23.640 Because of draconian restrictions in the name of public health, quote unquote, because

00:07:30.080 of the homelessness crisis that has absolutely wrought destruction on places like San Francisco

00:07:37.260 and L.A.

00:07:38.480 That is being caused and exacerbated not by a lack of funds, not by a lack of tax dollars,

00:07:44.260 that's for sure.

00:07:45.040 Not by a lack of liberal policy, obviously, not even by a by limited housing.

00:07:50.840 It is being caused by enabling and incentivizing homelessness that also enables and incentivizes

00:07:59.400 indirectly, at least, public defecation, public indecency, public drug use that make certain

00:08:07.720 parts of these cities in California completely unsafe and completely unlivable.

00:08:12.580 People, again, on both sides of the aisle can tell you San Francisco is not the place that

00:08:17.100 used to be sure and the super nice neighborhoods where they're never going to defund the police

00:08:23.680 and they're never going to allow for homeless encampments to be.

00:08:28.600 Yeah, those places are probably nice.

00:08:31.440 But in places where more average people live who are not multimillionaires, it is becoming

00:08:39.000 unlivable.

00:08:39.760 It's becoming unsafe.

00:08:40.800 And that is exactly why you saw so much enthusiasm behind this recall effort.

00:08:46.020 Now, apparently it wasn't enough, but that's why you saw so much enthusiasm.

00:08:49.680 The homelessness crisis, the crime crisis, the inordinately high taxes and accomplishing what,

00:08:58.440 by the way, accomplishing what?

00:09:01.160 Such as such a high tax rate.

00:09:04.480 So many burdensome regulations.

00:09:07.660 And for what?

00:09:08.440 Like, what has Gavin Newsom actually done well?

00:09:11.480 How can anyone who lives in the state of California say, I like the way the state is going?

00:09:16.500 I think that we're going in a better direction.

00:09:18.440 I think that things are actually better here than they were before.

00:09:21.780 I mean, it is such a perfect example of what far left progressive policies do.

00:09:28.240 They always destroy.

00:09:29.500 They always tear down.

00:09:31.020 They never offer anything better in the way of building things up, which is so ironic that

00:09:36.760 Biden's theme is build back better.

00:09:40.080 Progressivism doesn't have the capability inherently to do that.

00:09:43.360 Progressivism rails against institutions, rails against what was and what is, but it never has

00:09:49.240 a better replacement.

00:09:50.640 And so that's why you always just see chaos and confusion and destruction wherever those

00:09:55.180 far left progressive policies are implemented.

00:09:57.440 That's certainly what we're seeing in California.

00:09:59.060 And it's a real bummer.

00:10:00.500 Like, it's a real bummer that people just said, you know, vote no on the recall.

00:10:05.720 And oh, gosh, Larry Elder is just this scary guy.

00:10:09.780 But what's your like, what was your alternative? 0.98

00:10:12.360 Your alternative is terrible, corrupt, ineffective, incompetent leadership that is making your state 0.99

00:10:18.900 even worse. 0.98

00:10:19.960 Like, just because Larry Elder is a Republican, that's really what it was like, ooh, big, scary

00:10:27.960 Republican.

00:10:29.040 You can't even possibly think that maybe some of the policies that he's advocating for to

00:10:34.440 get homelessness down, to get crime down, to get the population rate growing again, to

00:10:40.520 try to fix some of the budget issues that are going on in California, to try to root out some

00:10:46.400 of the corruption, to try to fight against the corrupt teachers unions, which are ruining

00:10:50.640 the public schools in California, to try to support school choice.

00:10:56.200 Like, those are all good policies.

00:10:58.580 The guy probably would have been pretty socially libertarian.

00:11:02.400 Um, and so y'all missed out, like y'all really missed out.

00:11:06.340 Now, again, I'm not surprised because they're some of the most liberal people in the country

00:11:12.320 and good job for Larry Elder and good job for the other Republican contenders as well, who

00:11:17.220 tried to fight a fair fight, who tried to fight an effective fight.

00:11:20.100 I think we all knew that there were very low chances of that happening.

00:11:25.580 Now, if you're a conservative in California, which there are a lot of you there, it's really

00:11:30.660 LA and San Francisco that kind of hold the state hostage.

00:11:34.640 Is this true in many states?

00:11:36.940 The big cities that are so populous really run the show for everyone else.

00:11:42.660 I, a few years ago, went to Bakersfield and Visalia and spoke at a couple events there.

00:11:47.820 Some of the nicest people in the world, you guys are some of the kindest people.

00:11:53.060 Like, I'm from the South, and I thought that you guys were like the nicest and most polite

00:11:57.700 and complimentary and just kindest, warmest people that I've ever met.

00:12:02.120 Middle California is a beautiful part of the country with beautiful, kind people that

00:12:06.780 unfortunately are bearing the brunt in some cases of these really terrible policies.

00:12:12.260 And I think a lot of, you know, the questions that you guys have are, OK, should you stay and

00:12:18.000 fight or leave?

00:12:18.920 Because if every Republican left California, then certainly there wouldn't have been any

00:12:25.560 enthusiasm behind this recall effort.

00:12:27.520 Larry Elder wouldn't have been able to run and shine a light on a lot of the bad things

00:12:31.980 going on in California.

00:12:34.100 And you certainly have no chance in 2022.

00:12:36.840 But the question is, do you have a chance anyway?

00:12:39.840 Even if all the Republicans stayed, even if you were able to drum up so much enthusiasm

00:12:45.260 and show what a terrible leader Gavin Newsom is.

00:12:49.840 I mean, y'all did a really good job of doing that this time and it didn't work.

00:12:53.260 Like, how would it work in 2022?

00:12:55.900 I think that's a fair question.

00:13:04.360 I think and, you know, I'm open to disagreements on this.

00:13:09.100 I think that conservative people in blue states and maybe maybe even purple states, depending

00:13:16.340 on how deep purple, should move to red states and make them redder. 1.00

00:13:20.220 Like we need those conservative strongholds. 0.97

00:13:22.540 We need conservative Californias in the sense that it's such a strong conservative area.

00:13:30.700 It's such a strong conservative state that there is just no way for a liberal to come

00:13:35.920 in and muck things up like they have that on the Democratic side, for sure.

00:13:40.300 They have lots of states that you're just not going to be able to win if you're a Democrat.

00:13:44.540 We certainly have some red states that are like that.

00:13:47.180 But your life will be better.

00:13:49.540 I've never heard someone say, hey, I moved from Oregon or Washington or California or

00:13:54.740 New York to Florida or Texas or Oklahoma or South Carolina and my life got worse.

00:14:00.800 I've never heard someone say that.

00:14:03.320 Everyone that I know that moved from a blue state to a red state, so I call them an unfree 1.00

00:14:09.080 state to a free state, has said, my life is so much better.

00:14:12.500 I am surrounded by some like-minded people and I'm able to do the things that I want to

00:14:19.580 do.

00:14:19.900 I don't pay as much in taxes.

00:14:21.340 Things are less expensive.

00:14:22.980 Yeah, it's better.

00:14:24.380 It's better in red states.

00:14:25.580 And that's why you don't see typically people move from red states to blue states, even if

00:14:30.740 they are liberal themselves, because you get to enjoy the fruits of conservatism, even as

00:14:36.040 you are voting against them.

00:14:37.320 Now, of course, and this goes without saying, I think, to my audience, but if you move to

00:14:44.360 a red state, if you move to a red state, don't you be bringing those blue policies here,

00:14:49.480 OK?

00:14:50.180 Like, don't do that.

00:14:51.860 We don't want to mess around with that, because remember why you left.

00:14:55.300 It's not like California Democrats are not different than Oklahoma Democrats.

00:15:02.160 I mean, they might be slightly, but they all kind of have the same ideology and given enough

00:15:06.960 power, they will go the same direction.

00:15:08.860 That doesn't mean that you can't be a moderate in your policies.

00:15:11.400 That doesn't mean that you can't give some credence to some ideas that progressives have,

00:15:15.600 or maybe you're economically moderate, whatever.

00:15:18.320 That's fine.

00:15:18.900 Just realize that if you vote for a progressive in a red state and everyone around you does

00:15:25.300 too, then you are going to bring that red state into the same state that the blue state

00:15:35.780 is in that you just fled from.

00:15:37.700 So that's the hard truth about that.

00:15:40.680 But I do say we might as well just lean into the polarization and move to a place where you

00:15:49.620 know that you can raise your family, at least for the foreseeable future, in a way that is

00:15:54.620 free, in a way that aligns with your values.

00:15:57.200 Now, for some of you, that's not possible.

00:15:59.360 You got to stay and fight.

00:16:00.540 You live in a purple state.

00:16:01.600 You think that you can tip it over the edge.

00:16:03.780 Do that.

00:16:04.400 I'm not speaking for everyone.

00:16:05.720 I know everyone has a different situation where maybe you can't move.

00:16:09.240 And God has called you right there to make the impact that he wants you to make.

00:16:13.180 And that is all well and good.

00:16:15.820 But I'm saying that if you can, maybe that is something that you should finally consider.

00:16:21.140 And for anyone who says, well, you know, who's going to witness to those people in blue states?

00:16:27.000 I'm supposed to be sharing the gospel and being the light of Christ in these dark places.

00:16:32.140 Well, I will say just because a state is red doesn't mean that everyone there is a Christian.

00:16:38.060 That doesn't mean that you can't be a light in dark spaces.

00:16:40.740 Like there are very dark spaces, dark places in red states too.

00:16:45.140 Yes, they may be governed by governors in general who value freedom more.

00:16:49.740 But there's a lot of opportunity in red states to share the gospel and to be a light of Christ.

00:16:55.880 Republican doesn't equal Christian. 0.91

00:16:58.680 It does typically equal more free, though.

00:17:01.500 And so opportunities abound everywhere.

00:17:04.220 All right, let's talk about Brene Brown and the post that she made on Instagram.

00:17:18.360 I'll put it up on the screen if you're watching on YouTube.

00:17:20.960 I will also I'll read it to you.

00:17:23.260 I might not read every single line because it's a little long, but you can go on her Instagram.

00:17:28.960 I think it's still the last post that she posted and you can read the whole thing.

00:17:32.020 And so she posted in her notes app, which she then took a screenshot of and posted on

00:17:36.620 her Instagram.

00:17:37.720 She said this, the abortion ban in Texas, she's a Texas woman, if you didn't know, is 0.95

00:17:42.680 not about protecting vulnerable lives.

00:17:45.320 It's about protecting power, the kind of power that's based in fear, scarcity and white supremacy.

00:17:51.760 It's power fueled by self-protection and tinged with the ever-present threat of violence and

00:17:57.500 now bounty hunting vigilantism.

00:18:00.860 So first, I forgot to tell you, if you don't know who Brene Brown is, I assume that everyone

00:18:05.420 knows who she is.

00:18:06.220 She is very popular and for good reason, for understandable reason.

00:18:11.200 She is an author.

00:18:12.540 She is a mental health professional and she is a speaker.

00:18:19.160 She is widely influential for her advice, her wisdom on how to deal with trauma, with how

00:18:27.060 to deal with insecurity, with how to deal with self-loathing.

00:18:31.000 And truly, her words, when you read them, when you hear them feel like a balm to your

00:18:37.660 wounds, your emotional and mental wounds.

00:18:41.000 She is a great writer.

00:18:42.280 She is a great communicator.

00:18:44.120 I completely think that her popularity is, it makes sense.

00:18:51.120 It makes sense.

00:18:51.700 And I know especially why women go to her. 1.00

00:18:55.160 There are things that she says that are true. 0.98

00:18:57.180 There are things that she says that are good.

00:18:59.200 There are things that she says that are right and wise.

00:19:03.540 Now, she is coming from a secular perspective.

00:19:06.580 I don't know if Brene Brown identifies as a Christian, but if you read her work, what you

00:19:11.860 will see underneath the layers of poetic, you know, poetic psychotherapy is a focus on the

00:19:24.220 self, on self-fulfillment and self-empowerment.

00:19:28.880 That's why I wrote about her in my book, You're Not Enough and That's Okay, Escaping the

00:19:33.560 Toxic Culture of Self-Love.

00:19:35.260 She certainly plays into this. 0.99

00:19:37.100 While a lot of what she says sounds good and maybe some of what she says actually is good

00:19:42.520 and is sound advice, at the end of the day, she exists, her work exists to show you how

00:19:49.760 to find fulfillment in yourself rather than in Christ.

00:19:54.720 In the world of Brene Brown and other kind of self-love, self-help gurus like her, God,

00:20:01.280 your spirituality, whatever it is, is kind of coming along for your ride of self-discussion,

00:20:07.100 your journey to find yourself and to manifest your truest self.

00:20:12.660 God might be a helper in that journey, but He is not the journey and He is certainly not

00:20:17.940 the destination in the work of Brene Brown.

00:20:21.540 So this is a quote that I included in my book when I was writing about her from her book,

00:20:26.280 Braving the Wilderness, the truth about who we are lives in our hearts.

00:20:30.360 So this is a very new age idea, even though she might not be entirely new age.

00:20:35.340 This is a very new age idea that departs from what we know about Orthodox Christian theology,

00:20:44.000 that the truth about who we are, our real identity, our best self is found deep inside

00:20:49.460 of ourselves.

00:20:49.900 And our goal in life is to dig through all of the rubble of self-doubt and insecurity and

00:20:55.540 self-loathing to find that true self.

00:20:57.860 And it's not only ourselves who are kind of putting impediments between, you know, our

00:21:05.540 between ourselves and our true selves, but it's also the world.

00:21:11.180 So it's the patriarchy, it's society, it's capitalism, it's toxic relationships, it's

00:21:16.900 all these unfair societal expectations.

00:21:19.120 So we have to throw all those things off and throw off, you know, everything that hinders

00:21:24.660 us in kind of a blasphemous way, and we have to find who we truly are.

00:21:29.180 And in her work, you see that this is paramount to everything.

00:21:33.240 And once you find the truth that is in your heart about yourself, you will find basically

00:21:38.280 this flawless goddess that just needs to be unleashed. 0.62

00:21:43.560 And if you manifest her and you manifest your deepest desires and dreams, then you will finally

00:21:48.440 be happy.

00:21:49.040 Your relationships will be better and your life will be more fulfilling and you'll be

00:21:54.660 able to navigate all of life's ups and downs in a healthier and more effective way.

00:22:00.340 But that's not true.

00:22:01.420 That's not what the Bible says about us.

00:22:03.400 Who we are isn't deep down inside of us somewhere that needs to be unleashed and manifested.

00:22:10.260 Who we actually are is not this perfect goddess.

00:22:13.400 Who we actually are on the inside is a sinner.

00:22:19.520 That's what Ephesians 2 tells us, that there are those who are dead in Christ.

00:22:24.800 We are dead in our sin, which all of us were, by the way.

00:22:28.200 That's all what Ephesians 2 says, are those who are alive in Christ, who have been saved

00:22:33.120 by grace through faith in Him.

00:22:34.860 We've got the old self and we've got the new self.

00:22:38.220 Those are our two identities.

00:22:39.780 And so when we reach inside of ourselves and dig into our hearts, we're not going to find

00:22:44.320 perfection.

00:22:45.080 We're going to find corruption.

00:22:46.900 That is why we need Christ.

00:22:49.520 We're not enough for ourselves.

00:22:51.220 We're not enough for our salvation.

00:22:52.600 We're not enough for our sanctification.

00:22:54.220 We're not enough for our satisfaction.

00:22:56.200 But Christ is all of those things.

00:22:58.420 That doesn't mean that we don't take care of ourselves or we don't steward our bodies well.

00:23:02.800 That doesn't mean that we shouldn't go to a counselor when we need it.

00:23:05.740 I certainly am an advocate of that or that you don't need medication if you are actually

00:23:10.740 struggling with real depression and anxiety.

00:23:12.800 I'm not against those things.

00:23:14.760 All I'm saying is that you're never going to find the true fulfillment and satisfaction

00:23:18.180 that you are looking for inside yourself because the self can't be the problem and the solution.

00:23:24.580 All of those things can only be found in Christ.

00:23:27.060 And our imperfections and our flaws are not due to societal factors.

00:23:31.560 They're not the fault of other people or even past trauma, even though all of that might be real.

00:23:36.980 The flaws and the failures that we find inside of ourselves are due to our nature.

00:23:44.040 It's due to human nature.

00:23:45.700 And in order to be lifted out of that, in order to become new, in order to become sanctified and whole,

00:23:52.900 we need Christ.

00:23:54.020 We need Christ.

00:23:54.920 And so these are two divergent messages that you are going to hear from the gospel

00:23:58.720 and you're going to hear from Brene Brown.

00:24:00.600 Again, that doesn't mean you discount everything that she has ever said, but understand as a

00:24:05.180 Christian, you are starting at a fundamentally different place, a different understanding

00:24:09.340 about human nature, a different understanding about the heart, about the soul, about identity,

00:24:14.580 about belonging and purpose than someone like Brene Brown.

00:24:19.400 And so all of that said, knowing, at least in general, I don't know everything about her,

00:24:24.380 everything that she's ever written, but knowing in general her worldview and where she's coming

00:24:28.540 from when she is giving advice, I'm not surprised to see this.

00:24:33.940 I knew that she leaned left.

00:24:35.620 Like she's talked about things like this or at least implied things like this over, you

00:24:40.340 know, the past few years.

00:24:42.760 I'm not surprised at all that she has come out in favor of abortion. 0.87

00:24:46.800 This woman who claims to be, you know, a self-love guru and very empathetic and very compassionate

00:24:54.200 and very understanding apparently has no compassion and empathy for the unborn woman who is defenseless

00:25:01.680 and who is an innocent human being inside the womb who is being torn apart limb by limb with

00:25:08.780 forceps through abortion.

00:25:11.020 Apparently that little person doesn't deserve our compassion.

00:25:14.800 And so in order to try to distract from that, which is the reality of abortion, which is

00:25:21.040 the reality of what you're advocating for, if you are pro-abortion or pro-choice, they

00:25:26.220 might be, you know, different justifications, but the ends are the same.

00:25:30.400 She tries to impugn the motives of everyone else.

00:25:33.780 She tries to say that it couldn't possibly be because people actually care about babies inside

00:25:39.760 the womb, it must just be for these other very nefarious reasons.

00:25:45.600 So let me go on and read a little bit more.

00:25:47.740 Texans can now carry handguns without a license or training.

00:25:51.080 So this is one example of how this is not really about pro-life because Texans can now 0.99

00:25:56.240 carry handguns without a license or training.

00:25:58.220 Look, the Second Amendment, people who are pro-life are typically pro-Second Amendment, not

00:26:03.400 anti any restriction or regulation whatsoever, but they're pro-Second Amendment and the thinking

00:26:08.940 is the same.

00:26:09.600 We believe in protecting innocent life.

00:26:12.340 We obviously don't want abuses with guns. 0.97

00:26:16.600 We obviously don't like violence that's perpetuated by people who have guns.

00:26:21.720 We don't like any of that.

00:26:23.240 But you can be for the right of something and be for the liberty to do something and to

00:26:29.040 do something lawfully and be against the misuse of that thing.

00:26:33.380 And so we are pro-Second Amendment for the same reason that we're pro-life.

00:26:37.340 We believe in the ability and the right to protect innocent life.

00:26:41.040 And so this doesn't make the point that she thinks it's making.

00:26:43.440 Texas has had the highest number of death penalty executions in the U.S.

00:26:49.000 Again, I don't find it hypocritical at all to be for the death penalty for convicted murderers

00:26:57.240 and be against the death penalty for innocent babies.

00:27:01.680 I don't see the hypocrisy at all. 0.51

00:27:03.220 What I do think is hypocritical, which is exactly what she's saying that she is, is

00:27:07.460 to be anti-death penalty for convicted murders, but pro-death penalty for innocent babies. 0.97

00:27:12.820 That's the hypocrisy.

00:27:14.160 That's a grotesque example of immorality and inconsistency right there. 0.65

00:27:19.040 Not the other way.

00:27:20.060 As we've talked about, I can link it in the description to this episode.

00:27:23.080 As we have talked about, the death penalty is prescribed by God before the Mosaic law for

00:27:31.500 murder.

00:27:32.380 That's what he calls for. 0.93

00:27:33.940 For murder, for especially premeditated murder, God demands the death penalty.

00:27:39.660 Now, you can totally be against the death penalty and still recognize that you can be against

00:27:44.460 the death penalty in the United States for a variety of reasons.

00:27:47.120 You could say the process isn't fair.

00:27:48.680 You could say the possibility of a wrongful conviction and taking someone's life in the

00:27:53.640 United States is just, it's not, it's not worth it.

00:27:57.620 You can recognize that the death penalty is not unbiblical and therefore is not unjust per

00:28:03.960 se, because there's no biblical support for the idea of the death penalty being in itself

00:28:10.760 unjust.

00:28:11.460 Again, go back and listen to that episode if you haven't listened to it already.

00:28:15.300 But you can still be against the death penalty because of certain policies and processes

00:28:19.460 in the United States.

00:28:21.080 That's fine.

00:28:21.940 I still don't think it makes sense to be pro-abortion, pro the death penalty for babies 0.92

00:28:27.820 in the womb, but anti-death penalty for convicted murderers.

00:28:31.660 I just don't think that makes sense.

00:28:33.400 Literally, the same combination of chemicals is used to stop a baby's heartbeat in the second

00:28:39.940 trimester as is used for lethal injection for convicted murderers on death row.

00:28:47.020 And so you're using the same combination of lethal chemicals that, and this is graphic,

00:28:52.380 in the second trimester abortion, you have to ensure fetal demise. 0.99

00:28:56.280 And the way that you do this is you have to put a needle through the woman's abdomen into 1.00

00:29:03.320 the amniotic sac where the baby is. 0.61

00:29:05.200 We're talking about a moving, kicking, squirming, sucking thumb baby at this point in the second

00:29:12.520 trimester.

00:29:12.960 By the way, still in the first trimester, that baby looks like a baby.

00:29:16.840 Second trimester, you're feeling kicks.

00:29:20.120 And unfortunately, this happens thousands of times a year in the United States.

00:29:24.100 That needle full of a lethal chemical combination goes through the woman's abdomen. 1.00

00:29:30.400 It goes into the amniotic sac, or if the doctor is really skilled, the abortionist is really

00:29:35.240 skilled, it goes directly into the heart of that squirming baby. 0.99

00:29:39.660 The lethal injection is pushed into the heart, and horrifically, the baby even just instinctively

00:29:46.720 tries to move away from the pain of that needle.

00:29:50.340 And when the needle goes into the heart or into the amniotic sac, that causes the baby to

00:29:58.420 go into cardiac arrest, that baby then dies.

00:30:01.660 What a horrific way to die.

00:30:03.020 And you're talking about an innocent child.

00:30:06.260 You're talking about a baby.

00:30:07.980 You're talking about a defenseless baby who's literally just trying to grow and is given

00:30:13.580 a lethal injection to die.

00:30:16.200 And then that baby, of course, is removed, is torn apart limb by limb with forceps.

00:30:21.000 And so to be for that, to call that bodily autonomy, to call that reproductive justice,

00:30:28.560 but be against the death penalty, which is actually more humane when administered to convicted

00:30:35.340 murders, that just doesn't make any sense.

00:30:38.800 Maybe be against both.

00:30:40.340 Sure, I'm open to hearing your argument.

00:30:42.380 But again, being for it for babies and against it for convicted murders just doesn't make a

00:30:47.440 whole lot of sense, especially for this, you know, so-called compassionate self-love guru.

00:31:01.440 She goes on to say, the abortion ban is not about protecting life.

00:31:04.260 It's about protecting power.

00:31:05.640 This process is not an exercise in democracy.

00:31:08.260 It's dismantling the Constitution with the help of SCOTUS.

00:31:11.480 Show me, Brene Brown, where you see a constitutional right to abortion.

00:31:16.060 Where is it?

00:31:16.860 I know the, by the way, the white male justices who decided Roe v. Wade, they said that they

00:31:25.300 found it somewhere in the nooks and crannies implied in the Constitution and some kind of

00:31:30.040 right to privacy.

00:31:31.820 But even if you are pro-abortion, you can see that that was a terrible judicial decision.

00:31:36.960 Like it just didn't hold up to constitutional muster.

00:31:39.460 And unfortunately, it's led to the slaughter of millions and millions of babies.

00:31:43.160 Dismantling the Constitution.

00:31:45.020 Again, Brene Brown, constitutional scholar, tell us where you see a right to kill a child

00:31:49.840 in the Constitution.

00:31:50.760 Tell us how you got there.

00:31:51.860 I'm interested.

00:31:53.040 With the help of SCOTUS, by the way, the reason why SCOTUS didn't decide not to do anything

00:31:58.940 in this particular law was actually procedural.

00:32:01.600 It didn't have anything to do with the justices' views on abortion necessarily.

00:32:08.320 It had to do with the procedure.

00:32:10.260 They will probably hear a challenge to this case.

00:32:13.060 Again, the voting restriction legislation is not about preventing voter fraud.

00:32:17.280 It's about silencing Black and brown citizens. 1.00

00:32:19.740 We've talked about this on this podcast, the voting restriction legislation.

00:32:22.040 Restriction legislation, actually, the legislation makes it easier in some cases to be able to

00:32:29.740 vote early, to be able to vote on weekends.

00:32:33.260 In some cases, it requires voter ID.

00:32:36.320 So I guess you're implying that Black and brown voters aren't able to get ID, but they are able

00:32:42.640 to get vaccine verification, to be able to, you know, function in polite society.

00:32:50.800 Okay, it actually is about preventing voter fraud.

00:32:54.400 It actually is.

00:32:55.340 It doesn't make it harder for Black and brown people to vote.

00:32:57.940 That's just a lie.

00:32:58.740 That's just a myth.

00:32:59.600 Again, Brene Brown, you are welcome on this show to try to tell me, again, how abortion 0.94

00:33:04.580 is constitutional, where that right exists, and then you can also tell me how specifically

00:33:09.880 which parts of the voting legislation specifically will restrict Black and brown citizens.

00:33:16.720 I would love to know.

00:33:17.300 White male power over is making a last stand, and they're afraid.

00:33:21.960 That makes them dangerous. 0.88

00:33:24.100 White males decided Roe v. Wade.

00:33:26.460 What are you talking about?

00:33:27.740 And by the way, the majority of the pro-life movement is made up of women, okay?

00:33:33.580 It's made up of women. 1.00

00:33:34.580 And she addresses that.

00:33:35.600 Oh, it's my favorite part.

00:33:36.460 So she goes on to say that Abbott and Patrick have shown no real leadership in protecting

00:33:43.000 all Texans, but they seem ever ready to serve us up to keep the threatening zip-tie-wielding 1.00

00:33:49.280 far right at bay.

00:33:51.120 What?

00:33:52.020 A group that they themselves radicalized using race, gender, immigration, and anti-trans bathroom

00:33:58.240 bills.

00:33:58.960 What are you talking about?

00:34:00.540 Like, give us some specifics.

00:34:02.160 Even as their approval ratings fall across Texas, the Faustian bargain remains solid,

00:34:07.700 and women on the far right remain a strong voting constituency.

00:34:11.640 Again, far right to people like this is anyone to the right of, I don't know, Bernie Sanders

00:34:18.780 or Wendy Davis, to use Texas' example. 1.00

00:34:21.300 Greg Abbott is not far right.

00:34:25.660 He is not far right.

00:34:27.120 Like, there are a lot of conservatives that have a problem with Greg Abbott because they

00:34:30.540 don't believe that he is actually conservative enough.

00:34:33.700 Now, I happen to believe that he's pretty conservative.

00:34:37.780 I think that he is a lot more conservative sometimes than his dissenters give him credit

00:34:43.720 for.

00:34:44.120 But there are plenty of people on the right who just describe themselves as solid conservatives,

00:34:49.400 not far right, who don't believe that Greg Abbott is far right enough.

00:34:54.140 And so people who support Greg Abbott, some of them are just, I mean, they're squarely

00:34:59.380 in the center or they're center right.

00:35:01.740 Far right women. 0.99

00:35:03.260 She doesn't even know what she's talking about.

00:35:06.240 Bathroom bills, she puts in quotation.

00:35:08.000 So again, I think that she's coming out in favor of men sharing bathrooms with girls, 1.00

00:35:12.840 even as their approval ratings, blah, blah, blah.

00:35:14.960 I already said that.

00:35:15.800 Um, so she said, because many in Texas homes and churches, girls are still raised to believe

00:35:20.000 that the safest way to access power is to protect it and stand next to it.

00:35:24.140 So if we're lucky, we can catch the dripping.

00:35:26.160 And so Brene Brown thinks it's the only reason that a woman would be pro-life. 1.00

00:35:30.120 The only reason that a woman would be against the horrific procedure that I just described 1.00

00:35:34.720 of little girls and boys being torn apart limb from limb with forceps is because we want

00:35:39.820 power, like I talked to a group of pregnancy center directors last week, their Texas pregnancy

00:35:47.300 center directors, all, uh, I think it was about 20 or 25.

00:35:50.580 All of them were women, except for one male.

00:35:53.540 Um, they have the opposite of power.

00:35:55.660 They have the opposite of power.

00:35:57.560 They feel like they are up against a force that is bigger than them every single day.

00:36:02.160 And thank God, thank God, his work doesn't always make headlines, but thank God they are

00:36:07.980 right now overwhelmed with new clientele because of this, uh, because of this Texas legislation.

00:36:15.160 You've got women who are pregnant, who don't know what to do. 1.00

00:36:17.700 They're showing up at these pro-life pregnancy centers, whereas maybe before they were showing

00:36:21.120 up at a Planned Parenthood and they're saying, can you please help me?

00:36:23.980 And these pro-life pregnancy centers are saying, yes, what do you need?

00:36:27.820 We are going to help you any way that we can.

00:36:30.220 Do you need help with, uh, do you need help with your, uh, health insurance?

00:36:35.440 Do you need help finding refuge?

00:36:37.520 If you're in an abusive situation, do you need help with parenting classes?

00:36:40.860 Do you need help with enrolling in classes with, you know, educational classes?

00:36:44.460 Do you need help with baby supplies?

00:36:46.760 Like, what do you need?

00:36:48.120 These pro-life pregnancy centers say, here I am.

00:36:52.060 I'm ready to help you.

00:36:53.340 I posted, there is a pregnancy center in Texas who desperately needed baby supplies. 0.98

00:36:57.820 And I posted on Twitter, there were, I think there were like 1600 items, um, that were

00:37:03.980 needed on their baby registry.

00:37:05.820 I posted on Twitter, I posted on Instagram within minutes, uh, everything had been bought.

00:37:10.860 I mean, people are so pro-lifers are so eager for tangible ways to help women.

00:37:16.000 And let me just say, if you're out there, um, anyone, but Brene Brown specifically, why

00:37:20.460 don't you go to your pro-life pregnancy center? 1.00

00:37:22.320 Why don't you see what it's all about?

00:37:23.680 Before you start running your mouth about the motives of pro-life women just being, catching 1.00

00:37:30.020 the drippings of power, uh, from men in charge, why don't you go to your local pregnancy resource 0.92

00:37:36.720 center?

00:37:37.040 Why don't you see what it's all about?

00:37:38.560 Why don't you see what they're up against?

00:37:41.480 Why don't you see what it looks like to actually offer women a choice?

00:37:46.460 Something that people at Planned Parenthood don't do because they get a lot of money from

00:37:50.860 those abortions, the pro-life pregnancy centers don't get money from women keeping their babies. 1.00

00:37:57.080 They were literally doing what they do out of love of Christ and love for other people,

00:38:02.760 compassion, love for both the mom and the baby.

00:38:06.980 So Brene Brown, uh, before you start impugning the motives of people who you do not know, part

00:38:14.340 of a movement that you do not understand, saving babies that you do not care about.

00:38:19.320 Why don't you learn a little bit?

00:38:20.960 Why don't you educate yourself?

00:38:22.440 I am happy to do that for you.

00:38:25.360 Hopefully you will listen to this podcast.

00:38:28.320 Um, so she goes on to say pro-life women are just trying to catch the drippings of power 1.00

00:38:33.020 of men in charge.

00:38:33.800 Give me a, give me a break.

00:38:35.380 They just forgot to mention that we'd pay for protecting that power with our bodies, our minds

00:38:41.300 and our spirit.

00:38:41.920 You know, who is paying with your position or for your position with their body?

00:38:46.760 Babies, Brene Brown, babies.

00:38:49.600 A price that if you're not willing to pay, it leaves you with no other option, but to

00:38:52.960 fight.

00:38:53.280 That's not easy.

00:38:53.940 But I think the fight against bully leaders who use their power to exploit the people they

00:38:57.580 lead is worth every tough moment.

00:39:00.820 You know, who's being exploited by people with power who have no power themselves?

00:39:05.700 Babies, babies.

00:39:08.360 As a fifth generation, Texas, Brene Brown says, I hope we're all ready to fight for our

00:39:12.660 power and our state.

00:39:13.580 And if you're looking at us from another state and thinking, uh, what the H-E-Double

00:39:18.100 Hockey 6, she says, don't take your eyes off your own backyard.

00:39:21.360 Texas isn't an anomaly.

00:39:23.420 It is a blueprint.

00:39:26.280 Well, I surely hope so.

00:39:29.540 I surely, I surely hope so.

00:39:31.860 God would be so merciful to this country if more women were showing up at pro-life pregnancy 1.00

00:39:38.140 centers and getting the help that they need and the love and compassion they deserve for

00:39:42.120 both themselves and their babies than if they were going to Planned Parenthood and hearing

00:39:49.700 that they're not really carrying a baby, that they're just carrying a comp of cells, that

00:39:52.980 their life will be ruined if they actually go through with having this baby.

00:39:56.400 The Planned Parenthood, especially in places like Texas, often refuse to, if that woman 1.00

00:40:01.840 comes in and she says, hey, I want to keep my baby.

00:40:05.080 I'm just coming to Planned Parenthood because I didn't know what else to do.

00:40:08.180 Um, can you please refer me to a pro-life pregnancy center or something or somewhere that can

00:40:13.500 help me?

00:40:14.260 Very often, Planned Parenthood will not do it because they're not pro-choice.

00:40:18.040 They're pro-abortion. 0.73

00:40:18.800 They're pro-profit.

00:40:19.600 They're pro-making money.

00:40:21.420 Um, and so people who, uh, support this practice, who support this industry and who say they're

00:40:28.340 speaking up for the vulnerable truly, they have no idea what they're talking about.

00:40:31.320 Now, Brene Brown, she talks about some other things that, um, are going on in Texas.

00:40:37.060 She talks about how Greg Abbott is standing up against mask mandates, um, in schools.

00:40:43.000 Well, again, show, give me some evidence of what you're saying that mask mandates have

00:40:48.980 stopped the spread of coronavirus in school children, because I can show you a CDC study

00:40:53.860 of 90,000 students in Georgia that shows that it doesn't.

00:40:57.400 Like I've got data to back up the fact that we don't need mask mandates in schools.

00:41:00.920 Do you have anything besides your feelings?

00:41:04.320 I don't think so.

00:41:05.180 I don't think that you do.

00:41:06.460 Now she does go on to talk about the uninsured rate and she talks about, um, child food insecurity

00:41:12.300 in the nation.

00:41:13.520 And look, I am totally like, if you want to bring these things to the table and you want

00:41:18.240 to advocate for policies that help more children have insurance that fight food insecurity,

00:41:25.740 um, we can talk about that.

00:41:28.000 Like, I am totally willing to talk about that.

00:41:29.620 I want to create a culture of life.

00:41:31.200 I don't think that's always primarily through policy, but I think policy is certainly part

00:41:35.000 of it.

00:41:35.260 I think that we can create a culture of life, uh, voluntarily through our efforts and through

00:41:41.020 our personal acts of love and charity, which thankfully still abound in the United States,

00:41:46.520 even if they don't make headlines.

00:41:47.840 But I am totally willing to hear policy proposals.

00:41:50.680 And I think Republicans should in general, be willing to hear policy proposals that make

00:41:55.000 people's lives better, that make it easier to bring life into the world without so much

00:41:59.660 anxiety, 100%.

00:42:01.460 But it doesn't have to be either or.

00:42:04.840 Like, if your solution to these problems in our, in, in our country, if your solution 0.98

00:42:12.280 to these problems in your state is that you should kill more children before they're able 0.94

00:42:17.840 to take their first breath, that's not actually a compassionate solution. 0.99

00:42:21.280 Like, you're the only one, the pro-choicers like Brene Brown are the only ones that are

00:42:27.840 saying it has to be either or.

00:42:29.400 Like, either, uh, we can protect life outside of the womb or protect life in the womb.

00:42:34.940 I'm saying both and.

00:42:36.420 I'm saying bring me your, bring me your solutions.

00:42:38.820 All you've done here, Brene Brown, is list problems.

00:42:41.660 All you've done is say, look, these are problems that are happening in Texas.

00:42:45.540 Okay. 0.99

00:42:46.000 So again, your solution is just to make it easier to kill the babies in the womb. 0.96

00:42:49.560 Why don't you give some policy solutions to try to fight against some of the problems

00:42:54.000 that you're talking about, about food insecurity and lack of insurance?

00:42:56.960 Like, let's hear your proposals then.

00:42:59.020 Like, if you really want to fight, what it seems like you're fighting is for greater abortion 0.77

00:43:03.360 access and not for the other problems that you've listed. 0.98

00:43:07.100 I mean, it's just so hypocritical.

00:43:08.800 It's just a reminder that the people that you think are smart, that sound good, um, they 0.88

00:43:14.540 actually don't critically think at all.

00:43:16.820 They're really, they're really not, um, very wise.

00:43:21.300 Like she's someone who has sold a whole lot of books, made a whole lot of money, um, you

00:43:26.300 know, pretending to be wise.

00:43:28.860 Um, but actually I think that she fits the description, at least right now of Romans one, 0.99

00:43:34.760 pretending to be wise, they became fools. 0.98

00:43:38.120 Pretending to be wise. 1.00

00:43:39.820 Brene Brown has become a fool. 1.00

00:43:41.940 Um, and her words are foolish and they're calloused and they're wrong. 1.00

00:43:46.260 Now I'm sure she does have true compassion for women in vulnerable situations, but if 0.98

00:43:51.020 that's the case, go to your local pro-life pregnancy center, Brene Brown. 1.00

00:43:54.460 They're doing good work.

00:43:55.440 They're doing better work than you writing a screed on your notes app, putting it on Instagram

00:44:00.840 and disabling all comments on it because you don't want to hear any, um, you don't want

00:44:08.340 to hear any pushback.

00:44:09.800 All right.

00:44:11.000 Okay.

00:44:11.420 I don't have time to talk about the MMA fighter.

00:44:13.340 Maybe I'll do it.

00:44:14.480 Um, maybe I'll do it tomorrow, but actually tomorrow I really wanted to just talk about

00:44:18.740 theology.

00:44:19.200 I'm just kind of like over the news right now and all of the absurdity that's going on

00:44:24.820 and we haven't done, I mean, we do, we try to take a break every week from the news and

00:44:28.700 do something about, you know, anxiety or do something about the topic or do something,

00:44:33.920 um, you know, about like a most misused verse.

00:44:38.080 Uh, but we haven't done just like strictly biblical, nothing to do with politics or anything like

00:44:43.480 that, um, or nothing to do with anything that's going on in the world in a while.

00:44:47.380 It feels like we haven't done the most misuse in a while.

00:44:49.680 So if you want that, then let me know.

00:44:53.320 And, um, yeah, we'll, we'll do that.

00:44:55.860 We'll do that tomorrow.

00:44:56.940 Now, if something crazy happens tonight and I have to cover it tomorrow, I will, but my

00:45:01.040 plan is to do a theology Thursday tomorrow.

00:45:03.740 All right.

00:45:04.940 All right.

00:45:05.600 I will see you guys back here tomorrow.

00:45:08.400 Have a great rest of your day.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 15, 2021

Ep 489 ｜ My Response to Brenè Brown’s Toxic Post

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