Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 30, 2018


Ep 50 | Anti-Semitism & Cycles of Hate


Episode Stats

Length

34 minutes

Words per Minute

183.3154

Word Count

6,248

Sentence Count

479

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

On today's episode of Relatable, Allie talks about the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre and how it has changed the way she thinks about the topic of anti-Semitism in the Jewish community, and why you should definitely get a pillow from Bolster Sleep.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What's up, guys? Welcome to Relatable. My name is Allie. This is a podcast of CRTV. You can watch
00:00:06.900 this as well. If you don't just want to listen to me at CRTV.com slash Allie, you can subscribe
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00:03:10.020 slept on something better in my whole life. Okay. Now that that's done, first ad out of the way. It
00:03:15.320 wasn't even that bad, guys. You thought that it was going to be this horrible, boring thing. It
00:03:18.420 wasn't. I bet you were fascinated with that ad because I made it a part of my life because now it
00:03:22.960 is. Okay. We're going to talk about something that is a lot more serious than advertisements, a lot
00:03:27.280 more serious than even sleep. And that is the horrific thing that happened over the weekend at Tree of
00:03:33.500 Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh in a community called Squirrel Hill, which is literally Mr. Rogers
00:03:40.300 Neighborhood. That's where he grew up. It's a very close-knit Jewish community. There were 11
00:03:47.100 fatalities in this shooting. This guy who is an anti-Semite who has apparently been very public
00:03:53.820 on social media about his hatred for the Jews and, of course, has bought into all of these conspiracy
00:03:58.820 theories that have been around since the dawn of time, that the Jews are evil and that they're
00:04:03.940 running the world and that if we just exterminated the Jews, then everything would be better. This
00:04:09.240 guy literally bought into Nazi propaganda, has been propagating it himself. He bought into it so much
00:04:15.360 that he went into the synagogue and he shot it up. He killed people ranging from, I think, middle-aged
00:04:20.900 to some people in their 90s. It's horrific. This community is just wrenched with pain and really
00:04:31.080 the entire Jewish community. On Saturday when this happened, I was thinking about all of the Orthodox
00:04:36.900 Jews who were celebrating Sabbath or who were resting on their Sabbath, who didn't have their phones,
00:04:44.540 who didn't have access to the internet, who, you know, they weren't on Twitter. They didn't know this
00:04:48.700 was happening. I was just thinking about them, what horrific news this is going to be once they
00:04:53.940 are able to check into the technological world and see that this happened. I mean, it's got to be so,
00:04:59.700 so scary. I mean, think about it just for a second. If you're not part of a group that has ever been
00:05:04.400 persecuted here, and I would say as a white Christian, I don't really have a group that has been
00:05:11.120 persecuted or has been oppressed or has been a target of hate crime. So, for example, if, and this is
00:05:17.060 different, I'm not saying this is the exact metaphor, but if I found out that there was this,
00:05:21.520 there was a large group of people or a relatively large group of people that were online talking
00:05:25.660 about how much they hate blonde women, how they're going to kill blonde women, how blonde women really
00:05:30.080 are, you know, we're taking over the world in a really bad way and we're part of every horrible
00:05:35.100 conspiracy theory that there are these people that go out and they're going to kill blonde women.
00:05:39.400 Wherever blonde women are, they're going to kill them. I would be really scared.
00:05:43.340 Even if it happened across the country, even if I didn't know the blonde woman that was killed,
00:05:47.960 if I knew that she was part of this larger movement of people that wanted to kill blonde
00:05:52.620 women, I would be, I would be very afraid. So just think for a second, whatever it is that you are,
00:05:57.580 whatever characteristics that you have, if someone was targeting you for an immutable characteristic,
00:06:02.760 or maybe I guess in some cases it's chosen, some people convert to Judaism
00:06:06.480 for whatever characteristic it is for however you worship, whomever you worship, how you look,
00:06:13.800 how you act, how you dress. If someone was targeting you for that or targeting your group
00:06:18.080 for that, how scared would you be? How devastated would you be? And then it's taken to an even
00:06:22.760 further level when it's a religious community, when they're bonded, maybe not by actually knowing
00:06:27.860 each other physically, but a spiritual bond. We Christians can relate to that.
00:06:31.380 So I'm just devastated for the entire Jewish community. Anti-Semitism has been around since
00:06:38.300 the Jewish people have been around for thousands and thousands of years. This is not new. They have
00:06:46.100 been the target of all kinds of vicious attacks because of who they are. And God has amazingly,
00:06:56.480 amazingly spared them. And I'm going to get into a little bit later what the Bible
00:07:01.280 says about the Jewish people and how we as Christians are supposed to view the Jewish
00:07:05.320 people because there's just this very, very strange notion that for whatever reason, I guess
00:07:12.040 these people who think this don't read the Bible, there's this very strange notion that it is somewhat
00:07:17.260 Christian in a way to be against the Jewish people. And let me just give you a spoiler before
00:07:25.960 we even get into the theological part. It's not. There's nothing, nothing remotely biblical,
00:07:32.720 theologically sound, Christ-like Christian in any way about being anti-Semitic. There's just not.
00:07:42.200 So anyway, let me just say that I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. If I have any Jewish listeners,
00:07:48.500 I am so sorry that this happened. I know that it's scary. And gosh,
00:07:52.960 if you knew anyone that was affected by this, I am so sorry. It is a scary time that we're living in.
00:07:58.960 I mean, I don't know the numbers. I don't know if anti-Semitic hate crimes have increased or if
00:08:03.120 hate crimes in general have increased over the past few years. I'm not exactly sure. But I know that
00:08:10.720 any time this happens, especially in light of what was just happening with the bombs being sent to
00:08:16.440 various Democratic leaders, we live in a very tribalistic, very hateful, very amped up time
00:08:25.260 when everyone just everyone seems to hate the people that disagree with them. And unfortunately,
00:08:31.120 some people manifest that hatred in violence. So now we're going to talk about a little bit how
00:08:37.780 the media has reacted to this. That's always fun, right? How Trump has reacted to this and what is
00:08:44.680 the truth and what's false about all of this. So I know that Trump is not a great reconciler.
00:08:52.840 He's not. He's not the guy who's going to bring the divided people together. He's not the guy with
00:08:57.820 the peaceful rhetoric. He is no Ronald Reagan. We know that. I have criticized him for his rhetoric in
00:09:04.460 the past. I certainly do not think he's perfect. I got a message over the weekend saying that I
00:09:10.380 worship President Trump. Anyone who's been listening to me knows that that is not true.
00:09:15.160 He is not perfect. I wish. I wish sometimes he would stop talking or he would change the things
00:09:20.360 that he's saying. I think that most a lot of the things that he says, not most, but a lot of things
00:09:24.900 that he says, it's not that they're necessarily wrong. It's just that they're not helpful. And that's
00:09:29.500 not his mentality. I've learned he's not thinking about what is actually helpful, what is actually
00:09:33.540 productive. And a lot of times in his rhetoric, he's not thinking what is actually good for the
00:09:38.000 country. He's thinking what is good for the brand of Trump. And sometimes that can be good for the
00:09:43.500 country, but sometimes it's not. In this particular case, in the light of everything that happened,
00:09:47.980 he did a pretty good job. Of course, this was a scripted speech. Someone wrote it for him,
00:09:53.780 I'm sure, but that's fine. That's true of most presidents. So here is what he had to say.
00:09:58.500 As you know, earlier today, there was a horrific shooting targeting and killing Jewish Americans
00:10:04.960 at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The shooter is in custody and
00:10:13.380 federal authorities have been dispatched to support state and local police and conduct a full and thorough
00:10:21.140 federal investigation. This wicked act of mass murder is pure evil, hard to believe.
00:10:32.620 And frankly, something that is unimaginable. Our nation and the world are shocked and stunned by the grief.
00:10:42.340 The media, however, didn't like this. And of course, they had already made up their minds about
00:10:59.700 everything before Trump actually gave their speech. There were blue check marks on the left on Twitter
00:11:05.480 saying that this is the kind of hatred that Donald Trump allows, that he exacerbates, that this is the
00:11:12.040 country that he's created. This is the environment that he fosters, that these kinds of hate crimes
00:11:17.560 only exist, is what they're implying under Donald Trump. There have been articles in the New York Times
00:11:23.780 and the Washington Post, of course, conversations on CNN, MSNBC about how this is Trump's fault,
00:11:31.340 that they're not blaming him as directly as they were for the bombs on the Democratic leaders. That
00:11:37.340 was very explicitly blaming Donald Trump. But now it's just, well, he has created this culture of
00:11:44.000 division. He has created this culture of hatred and this is his fault. No, like I said, I disagree
00:11:49.940 with a lot of Trump's rhetoric. But no, this is not his fault. Hatred has existed for a long time.
00:11:57.200 And like I've said so many times, if you look at the numbers, we became most divided under President
00:12:02.780 Obama. Not before that and maybe sometime after that, but it was under President Obama that people
00:12:08.680 really started hating each other and that we really started looking at the other side and saying,
00:12:14.080 we have absolutely nothing in common. We can't even say that we're proud to be Americans anymore.
00:12:18.720 That's when it happened. Now, Trump is a symptom of that. He is not the cause of that,
00:12:24.380 but he is a symptom of what happened under President Obama, aka the Great Divider. And
00:12:29.320 I'm not saying, again, that he is helping. I am not saying that he is bringing people together. But
00:12:34.320 no, it is not Trump's fault. But the media is so hell-bent on blaming conservatives in the right
00:12:41.420 for everything, for everything bad that happens, that they're not even able to see the log in their
00:12:48.040 own eye. They just can't do it. They can't see how their incendiary rhetoric is adding to the same
00:12:53.660 kind of division that they say that Trump is adding to. That them saying, for example,
00:12:58.820 that everyone's going to die if Republicans repeal Obamacare, that everyone who voted yes on Kavanaugh
00:13:04.020 is a rape apologist and doesn't care about rape victims. That saying that the tax cuts are going to
00:13:10.500 be Armageddon or at least agreeing with Nancy Pelosi saying that. Having Maxine Waters on who says
00:13:17.720 that anyone in the administration should not be allowed to eat dinner in peace. They don't condemn
00:13:24.300 Antifa. Actually, they say that the anti-fascists are okay because they're fighting against bigotry.
00:13:29.780 They don't see their own messaging, their own rhetoric, and their own words as incendiary,
00:13:37.640 as dangerous, as wrong. They only look at Trump. They only look at the right wing and say they're
00:13:43.240 bad. And they wonder why the country is so divided. We're not perfect on our side. We're
00:13:49.060 certainly not. I've been convicted over the past few days about, wow, when I have kids one day,
00:13:54.720 I want them to be raised in a softer, kinder world than this. How am I going to contribute to that
00:14:00.660 softness and kindness? I don't do a good job. I don't because I just get angry at things. And I say,
00:14:05.720 this is absolutely ridiculous. And I lash out at whoever is making the stupid comment of the day.
00:14:11.300 I'm not helping. So I think that we can all look at ourselves and say, how am I contributing to
00:14:16.100 reconciliation? How am I contributing to peace? That doesn't mean you stop speaking truth. That
00:14:20.380 doesn't mean that you stop being bold and maybe sometimes even blunt with things that you say
00:14:28.200 that are true. But it does mean, okay, we need to examine our hearts here. Am I attacking this person
00:14:33.940 simply in a way that is ad hominem, in a way that doesn't actually add to a productive dialogue,
00:14:41.300 am I just doing this for attention? Am I doing this to advance my own brand? Am I making a broad
00:14:47.100 generalization that really isn't true or fair? Am I making a statement that can't be backed up by
00:14:52.140 facts just because I know it's going to get a lot of retweets and likes? It's that kind of stuff that
00:14:56.740 we have to examine in ourselves. I am the first and foremost. I know that. Now, I try not to do
00:15:03.300 that. I'm never consciously saying I'm going to say this for attention. Never, right? That's never been
00:15:08.300 who I am. But it doesn't hurt, of course, to take a step back and say, I need to evaluate myself. I
00:15:13.980 need to evaluate how I might be contributing to this rise in temperature. And all I'm asking,
00:15:19.640 all I'm asking is for the media to do the same thing. But people on the left tend to think,
00:15:24.860 or it's a lot of people right now, not everyone, but a lot of people right now, especially on the
00:15:29.480 left-wing media, seem to think that they are the peacemakers, that they are not the problem,
00:15:35.140 that we are the problem. And that's when I stop being able to be calm anymore. That's when I kind
00:15:40.920 of give up on this whole idea of, okay, well, maybe we can all take responsibility and come
00:15:45.060 together. It's very difficult to do when you see the left throwing cheap shots at people on the right
00:15:51.480 simply because they think that they're better than us. That makes it very hard to look at the other
00:15:56.760 side and say, I want to sit down with you. I want to have a conversation with you. I want to come
00:16:01.400 together. Maybe we do have things in common because I don't think that I'm better than people
00:16:06.900 on the left. I think they're wrong. I think that they're misinformed. I think that my ideas are better
00:16:11.780 than theirs. I don't think that I am better than them. I don't get the same feeling from them on the
00:16:17.740 other side. And that is one reason why it is so hard for us to come together. It's so hard.
00:16:23.860 There was this headline in the Washington Post by Max Boot, and I'm trying to find it. He says,
00:16:33.640 Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media can't escape responsibility. And this is after
00:16:39.720 the Tree of Life shooting. So in the article, now Max Boot is an ex-GOP person. He is one of the most
00:16:49.820 aggravating commentators in the entire world because to me, his arguments are just so disingenuous
00:16:56.020 about conservatism. I don't really understand how you can just give up on your principles because
00:17:00.020 you don't like certain politicians in your party. That's not what conservatism is about.
00:17:05.020 But in this article, he talks about how Fox News and the rest of right-wing media cannot escape
00:17:10.880 responsibility for the Tree of Life shooting. That's amazing. That is so, that's just amazing.
00:17:18.040 How much self-awareness do you have to lack for you to write that headline? How much self-awareness
00:17:24.900 do you have to lack of the Washington Post to approve of that headline? Now, this was an opinion
00:17:29.200 piece, so they're pretty out there headlines sometimes. But still, really? Fox News and the
00:17:36.880 rest of right-wing media can't escape responsibility? And you know what? I'm fine. I am actually fine
00:17:42.680 with saying, hey, Fox News. Hey, right-wing media, take some responsibility. Maybe you're contributing
00:17:49.400 to the madness. Maybe you're contributing to the anger. And maybe Fox News hosts will look at
00:17:53.500 themselves and look at their monologues and say, you know what? That's true. I'm making too big of
00:17:58.160 statements about this. I'm going too far. I'm exaggerating too much. This is a little bit too
00:18:01.960 apocalyptic. I'm not thinking of anyone. I'm honestly not. I'm just saying maybe some Fox News
00:18:07.020 hosts will say that. I'm fine with having that conversation. I'm fine with that headline. As long
00:18:12.640 as we also say, hey, CNN, MSNBC, left-wing media, you can't escape responsibility either. You cannot
00:18:20.440 because your rhetoric is so apocalyptic. Everything is the end of the world. Everything is horrifying.
00:18:28.360 Everything that the right does is hate-mongering. Everything President Trump does is awful. And all of
00:18:33.540 us who voted for him are complicit. We're complicit in evil. Anyone who dares to think that Donald Trump
00:18:39.480 might be a good president is stupid. They're racist. They're wrong. They're bigoted. They're bad people.
00:18:46.180 And everyone who agrees with you, well, they're great. They're on the right side of history.
00:18:51.520 Don't tell me that Fox News and right-wing media can't escape responsibility if you're not
00:18:56.200 also willing to call out the left-wing who also cannot escape responsibility. There is no
00:19:03.460 valid argument to be made that Fox News is any more incendiary than CNN or MSNBC,
00:19:09.880 that they are any more exaggerated in their rhetoric. In fact, and I know that I'm biased in
00:19:14.020 this because I'm a conservative and I like Fox News. I think they are much more balanced.
00:19:18.660 Now, not every single show. Some shows admit that they're just opinion shows, that they're just going
00:19:23.300 to tell you that the left sucks, which I don't always disagree with, and that President Trump is
00:19:30.740 awesome. There are going to be shows on Fox News that do that. But overall, Fox News is extremely
00:19:37.160 fair in who they invite on, the conversations that they allow to happen on their air. Do they like
00:19:42.440 President Trump in general? Yes. But that's because no other network does like President Trump. Where are
00:19:48.280 the people who do like President Trump going to go to get their news? Fox News provides that.
00:19:52.600 But I would say a large chunk of their shows are extremely balanced, are extremely objective,
00:19:58.960 are extremely fair. You cannot tell me that Brett Baer is biased, that he is responsible for any of
00:20:06.720 this violence that's happening. And that's just one example. I don't think that that's true on CNN and
00:20:11.940 MSNBC. Now, not all of the journalists there are bad at all. Some of them, I'm sure, very responsible.
00:20:18.880 I think Jake Tapper generally does a very good job. There are reporters on CNN that do a very good
00:20:24.000 job. I don't think that they are all these, they don't all use hyperbolic rhetoric. I think that
00:20:30.500 they're, you know, they're good at what they do. But I would say Fox News does the best job of being
00:20:37.640 fair and balanced while also being a conservative network. So again, you cannot say that it is them
00:20:43.600 that has to take responsibility for this violence just because they say things that you don't like.
00:20:51.220 You cannot do that. And then honestly, honestly, watch MSNBC or CNN and not think,
00:20:57.140 huh, they're only telling one side of the story. Huh, I can't believe that they're having this guest
00:21:01.900 on. Huh, I can't believe that they're looking at the story in this particular way in order to make
00:21:06.280 President Trump look bad or conservatives look bad. You can't do that if you are an honest person.
00:21:10.780 Like I said, I am fine with the media taking some responsibility. I'm fine with President Trump
00:21:15.800 taking some responsibility and us all toning it down. It's very hard to do when the left is so
00:21:21.200 self-righteous. I'm telling you, this would never, this would never be a headline in Fox News.
00:21:27.260 Well, I can't say that. Maybe in an opinion section, maybe in an opinion section it would.
00:21:32.180 I would be surprised if I saw something like this saying that CNN and the rest of left-wing media
00:21:37.620 can't escape responsibility for this shooting at a synagogue. I would be surprised. I might be
00:21:43.760 proven wrong. I would be surprised. So President Trump, of course, this morning or yesterday morning,
00:21:49.360 he tweeted that the fake news enemy is the, or the fake news media is the enemy of the people.
00:21:55.940 And people on both sides of the aisle said, you know, this isn't helpful. Once again,
00:21:59.420 this is something that's just kind of unproductive at this point in time. I mean,
00:22:04.540 we just had a major shooting. We've had a few scary things happen over the past few days. It
00:22:09.780 would be better if we could just kind of come together. But I don't disagree with that statement.
00:22:15.320 Some conservatives were saying it needs to stop. He needs to stop calling the fake news media the
00:22:19.860 enemy of the people. And as much as I don't like a lot of what Donald Trump says, I don't disagree
00:22:26.580 with that phrase that fake news is the, is an enemy of the people that they have animus towards their
00:22:36.600 audience, that they think their audience is so stupid that they can indoctrinate them with the
00:22:41.900 progressive ideology and only tell them part of the story. The any, any side, or I guess I shouldn't
00:22:48.100 say progressive. I guess it would be any side right or left. When you demean the people by lying to them
00:22:54.580 and telling them, oh, President Trump is trying to make trans people disappear, which is not true.
00:23:02.180 24 million people are going to die if they repeal Obamacare. That's not true. Tax plan, Armageddon.
00:23:09.960 That's not true. That does put you at enmity with the people that you are talking to if you are lying
00:23:16.060 to them. So I do not disagree that the fake news is the enemy of the people. Of course, the question
00:23:21.460 is, is that the right thing to say right now? Like it would be so much better if he just denounced
00:23:27.680 all of this and said, you know what? Let's drop the act. Let's come together. The economy is doing
00:23:32.840 well. We're Americans. Let's remember that. And maybe it's too, too little too late at this point
00:23:38.200 for President Trump. I'm sure the left has already made up their mind. No matter what the heck he says,
00:23:42.500 they're going to hate him anyway. I just, all of this makes me miss President Reagan so much.
00:23:47.680 Someone that I never knew. I didn't live through his presidency, but President Reagan is by far my
00:23:52.340 favorite president. I love him so much. Like I can cry thinking about President Reagan, reading about
00:23:58.300 him. Oh man. Okay. Just listen to this short, really short blurb from one of his speeches where
00:24:04.880 he denounces antisemitism and bigotry.
00:24:08.020 Let me add in the party of Lincoln, there is no room for intolerance and not even a small corner
00:24:15.320 for antisemitism or bigotry of any kind. Many people, many people are welcome in our house,
00:24:30.020 but not the bigots.
00:24:31.740 So he says, many people are welcome in our house, but not the bigots. I just, I love that. I love
00:24:38.020 that. We should be able to say that on either side. Of course, the term bigot has become such
00:24:42.820 a progressive term that it's hard for the right to say it, but it's true. There are bigots on our
00:24:47.820 side, on both sides, but on the right, like we have them. We should be able to call them out.
00:24:52.940 They're called the alt-right. Now, this particular shooter who shot in the Tree of Life synagogue,
00:24:57.580 he was anti-Trump, but I don't think that he was left-wing. He just called Trump a globalist.
00:25:04.740 Globalism is a term that everyone uses. It's not just an alt-right term, but it has been used
00:25:10.220 particularly by the alt-right and it's really synonymous to Jews. Like the alt-right exists.
00:25:16.440 There is this idea among conservatives that the alt-right doesn't exist, that it's just a leftist term
00:25:21.200 to demonize certain conservatives. That's not true. The alt-right exists and they are not good people.
00:25:27.580 I know that it sounds like I'm throwing around all of these progressive terms, but they are
00:25:31.920 white nationalists. I sat down and I talked to a prominent person in the alt-right. I had a long
00:25:37.620 interview with them to just honestly try to understand what the alt-right thinks and who
00:25:43.220 they really are and what their values are. He told me, some of them believe in small government,
00:25:49.380 not most of them. Some of them believe in small government, but they don't believe that small
00:25:53.100 government is possible unless you have a completely white country. Like they don't believe that people
00:25:58.880 are really bonded together by, they can be bonded together by common values in the constitution.
00:26:04.200 Like they really do believe that whiteness and quote Western civilization is what is going to be
00:26:10.540 holding us together in the end. And they hate people like me. They call me a neocon because they would
00:26:15.820 say, oh, what are you really conserving? Because, oh, the constitution, oh, you're right. But
00:26:21.800 I won't even get it all. I won't even get all into it. They're so inane. They're so backwards. They're so
00:26:30.400 honestly hateful, most of them. Now, not everyone who is called alt-right is alt-right, but a lot of
00:26:37.100 them are. You'll hear them talk about identity. You'll hear them talk about globalism. They might not
00:26:41.740 outright talk about how they hate the Jews, but they do hate the Jews. They are racist. Now,
00:26:48.520 they might be okay with some black people who are on their side with their cause, but in general,
00:26:54.860 not really. Like they think whiteness is something that is very important to preserve and that white
00:26:59.820 identity is an important part of their version of conservatism. They would also call themselves
00:27:05.500 paleo conservatives, which they don't even really know what that means, but that's what they would
00:27:10.200 call themselves. And they are bigots. And like, we should denounce them. Most conservatives that I
00:27:15.380 know do denounce them. And that's the difference between the left and the right. Most conservatives
00:27:19.040 denounce the alt-right and the left doesn't denounce the people that they see on the far left,
00:27:24.520 like the anti-fascists, quote, anti-fascists. But we need more people denouncing people in the
00:27:30.260 alt-right. It exists. Do not believe that it is just a leftist tactic. The alt-right exists.
00:27:35.040 They like President Trump, mostly. And they are on the side. That doesn't mean everyone who likes
00:27:41.700 President Trump, I voted for President Trump, is part of the alt-right. They exist. And they are bad.
00:27:47.640 This guy was probably in that circle somewhere. Probably. So we just need to be able to acknowledge
00:27:54.440 that. So the question is, though, the bigger question for those of us is, what are Christians
00:27:59.660 supposed to think about Jews? Part of the alt-right, they like Christianity. They like Christendom
00:28:06.120 because they think it's white and European. Funny. Jesus was a Middle Eastern Jew, but whatever.
00:28:13.420 They think that hating Jews, like Paul Nealon, for example, I think he was running for Congress or
00:28:18.620 something like that. He got kicked off Twitter. I completely dominated him in a very biblical,
00:28:24.280 sass way about the Jews. He thinks that it's Christian to not like Jews and to tell Jews
00:28:31.000 all of these horrible things about them. Unfortunately, there's this very, very small
00:28:35.040 sack of not really Christians, but call themselves Christians who think that it's bad to, or think that
00:28:40.920 it's good to hate Jewish people. So let's just talk through what the Bible actually says about this,
00:28:46.820 because you know, if you're a Christian, you're supposed to kind of like the Bible and believe in the
00:28:50.560 Bible. So first of all, Jesus was a Jew. His entire lineage was Jewish. As Christians, we don't just
00:28:57.400 get rid of the Old Testament and the stories of God's faithfulness to Israel. All of that matters.
00:29:03.440 All of it is integral to the story of Jesus. Read all of Romans. Jews came first. To them,
00:29:09.700 says Paul, belonged the oracles and the prophecies. They were part of the original tree,
00:29:15.660 the metaphorical tree. And we Gentiles, you and I who are not Jewish, were grafted in through
00:29:20.540 Christ. So our attitude towards the Jewish people should be like Paul's, who says in Romans 9,
00:29:27.340 3, that he wishes that he himself were cut off for the sake of the Jews, that they could be saved.
00:29:32.860 We don't have the exact same view of Jews that we have of other non-Christians. Now, technically,
00:29:41.080 we do, but it is a little bit different. It's a different kind of yearning for them to know Christ,
00:29:46.680 because they believe in the God of Israel, like we do. They know his character. They have the
00:29:52.560 prophecies. They have the Old Testament. And yet they have been God, or the New Testament says that
00:29:58.720 they have been cut off for our sake. And our longing should be that they know Jesus so that they can be
00:30:04.400 joined, so that we can be joined together. We should be praying that the eyes of their hearts are
00:30:08.780 enlightened. That's how we should feel about the Jewish people. We should be yearning for them. We
00:30:16.480 should love them. We should be evangelizing to them. We should be showing them the compassion
00:30:22.300 and the passion of Christ. That's how we should feel about the Jewish people. They still have a
00:30:28.300 purpose. I mean, Romans also talks about how not all Israel is Israel, but a remnant will be saved.
00:30:34.420 God is still going to be faithful to Israel through that remnant and through Christ.
00:30:39.440 Now, we know that no one comes to the Father except through Christ. That is true of every
00:30:44.460 person of every single faith, but we should not be demeaning the Jewish people because they don't
00:30:49.700 know Christ. We should be yearning for them to know Christ. We should be loving them, showing
00:30:53.500 hospitality to them. Right now, we should be devastated that this act of violence happened.
00:30:58.680 We should know that this is not God's will, that it breaks his heart as well,
00:31:02.000 and he wants his people to come to know him through Christ as well. Christ, the ultimate
00:31:05.860 sacrifice for both the Jews and the Gentiles. Our hearts should be broken for that in the same way
00:31:10.780 that God's is. So there is nothing biblical, not a single biblical thing about antisemitism.
00:31:17.240 Like for you to think that you've got to be the most dense, stupid, idiotic, unbiblical,
00:31:22.740 theologically inane person out there. You really do. You do not know Christ. You don't.
00:31:28.900 If you believe that any strand of racism, antisemitism, whatever it is, is justified by
00:31:35.600 the Bible. Okay? So anyway, the reaction to all of this has been, it's been crazy. And I just hope
00:31:44.960 and pray, one, that I can repent of my own sin and all of this and causing any division of any kind,
00:31:52.640 which sometimes the truth divides and that's okay. We're supposed to speak the truth in love. I'm not
00:31:56.840 going to stop doing that. But examining my own heart, examining my own motives behind my words,
00:32:02.540 making sure that what I'm saying, even if it might hurt people's feelings, it's fine with me, but
00:32:06.300 I want to make sure that it's productive, that it's moving the ball forward, that I am only speaking
00:32:10.400 truth. I want my kids to grow up in a better world than it is right now. It's scary right now. We're so
00:32:16.320 tribalistic. I don't want to contribute to that. So that's where I am on all of it. And again,
00:32:23.020 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry for any of you who have been experiencing pain over the past few days.
00:32:28.580 And I'm praying for you guys. I'm praying for the entire Jewish community. You can also go to
00:32:33.040 GoFundMe.com. It's on my Twitter page as well. There is a verified GoFundMe page for the Tree of
00:32:38.920 Life Synagogue. They're trying to get up to a million dollars. There's a lot of damages.
00:32:43.080 I think there are, last I checked, there were over a hundred thousand. I'm sure they're much past that
00:32:46.800 now, but let us not forget this moment. Let us not forget the feeling of sadness and compassion
00:32:50.740 that we feel for them. It's so easy to move on really quickly when things like this happen,
00:32:56.520 because the news cycle happens so fast. But remember that those who experience this,
00:33:00.720 they're not moving on quickly. This is going to be haunting them for the rest of their lives.
00:33:04.420 So try to remember them and pray for them when you can. Okay. One final thing, I'm highlighting a
00:33:09.980 nonprofit. One of the nonprofits that someone sent me is called Fighting For Me. And it's an
00:33:15.660 organization that provides free counseling to sexual abuse victims and their loved ones
00:33:20.100 in Orange County, California. Their goal is to have counseling centers nationally,
00:33:24.420 but they want it to be totally free. And so they haven't actually gotten the full funding to be
00:33:29.560 able to start up yet, but they're in the process of doing that. So you can find out more about
00:33:34.060 Fighting For Me at fightingforme.org. Sounds like an amazing service. People who are in those kind of
00:33:40.100 vulnerable situations need to know that they are loved, that they're not alone, that they are known,
00:33:44.720 that they are valued. And this organization is trying to do that. And I think the name Fighting
00:33:49.940 for Me is perfect. Okay. Love you guys so much. I'm headed to New Orleans this week. I'm going to
00:33:55.680 the World War II Museum. It's probably going to be crazy for Halloween. But I'm also going to the
00:34:00.980 Ed Sheeran concert, so that'll be fun too. So I will see you guys back here on Thursday.