Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 21, 2021


Ep 510 | It’s Rachel’s Tale, We’re All Just Handmaids In It


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Rachel Levine, a man who identifies as a woman, becomes the first female four-star admiral in the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, Pete Buttigieg, who is on paternity leave, and the Dave Chappelle special saga.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. Okay, we've got a very womanly episode today. 1.00
00:00:17.380 We are talking about stories that have to do with women. Women and I would say motherhood
00:00:25.160 are under fierce attack as they have been literally since the beginning of time,
00:00:29.380 our mother, the mother of all of us, Eve, was the first to be targeted by Satan, to be tempted to
00:00:34.740 be asked the question, did God really say? The first one to be tempted to question both God's
00:00:39.920 authority and her own identity. And still to this day, we see women and what seems and motherhood
00:00:46.860 and what these things mean. We see them being redefined, perverted, diminished by mainstream
00:00:54.860 culture. There are a few stories this week that happened that I think represent all of this.
00:01:02.720 One was the Assistant Secretary for Health and Human Services, who goes by Rachel Levine. This
00:01:08.580 is a man who identifies as a woman. That's the most accurate language that I can use. I'm not trying to
00:01:13.380 be purposely inflammatory. I'm not trying to be rude. This is factually what this person is,
00:01:18.540 a man who now has grown out his hair and now identifies as a woman. He is being called by
00:01:25.120 the New York Times and other outlets, the first female four-star admiral, I always want to say
00:01:31.420 admirable, admiral in the United States Health Service. And then there was this tweet by Margaret
00:01:37.660 Atwood. She is the feminist author of The Handmaid's Tale. She's being called a TERF online,
00:01:45.000 trans-exclusionary, radical feminist for questioning why we can't use the word woman anymore. And then 0.99
00:01:52.380 if we have time, we'll get to Pete Buttigieg and his male partner who adopted two kids' twins.
00:01:59.380 He went on paternity leave. He is transportation secretary, and there's a lot of transportation
00:02:04.780 things that are going on right now that could use his help. And that is not criticizing paternity
00:02:11.440 leave. There is a lot of complexity to the criticisms that I think he's facing. And we'll
00:02:18.640 talk about that if we have time. Commentator S.E. Cup says that the reason that Pete Buttigieg is
00:02:25.740 getting criticism is because pro-life conservatives are hypocrites and really he should be a hero to us.
00:02:31.120 Well, that completely gets wrong, the arguments that conservatives are making. And we will also do
00:02:37.240 a follow-up on the Dave Chappelle special saga. People are protesting Netflix. We'll play a little
00:02:42.100 clip of that. And then again, if we have time, I want to end the episode with this awesome short clip
00:02:49.780 of Condoleezza Rice on The View talking about the tenets of critical race theory and what we should
00:02:54.960 be teaching kids, both white, black, and brown. And just I think that it's a great refutation
00:03:03.800 of the principles that we have been seeing of CRT. And we will definitely announce finally a giveaway
00:03:10.120 winner from the 500th episode. All right, let's first talk about Rachel Levine. So here is how the
00:03:17.540 New York Times reported on Levine's new title. Quote, Dr. Rachel Levine was sworn in as the first
00:03:23.840 female four-star admiral in the history of the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps.
00:03:30.540 So Rachel Levine, who lived as Richard Levine most of his life, was married to a woman until 2013,
00:03:39.280 has two children, transitioned at some point in the last few years or publicly transitioned. We don't 0.99
00:03:44.900 really know what went on behind the scenes before that. So that means he lived more than 50 years as
00:03:50.880 a man and is now calling himself a woman. And now he gets the honor of being a first,
00:03:59.660 which he would not get that particular honor if he were considered publicly what he is,
00:04:05.740 which is just a white male. We have had plenty of white male four-star admirals before this,
00:04:12.260 but now we have a white male with long hair who wears lipstick. And apparently that is history
00:04:18.760 making stuff. And we are all supposed to clap like seals and not along with this as if it's
00:04:25.280 completely normal and worth celebration. And let's just note that he wasn't even particularly good
00:04:31.400 at his job before he got appointed for this position. So this is according to a great article
00:04:38.160 by LifeSite News. I really appreciate their willingness to use proper pronouns when it comes
00:04:43.700 to talking about a male. So this article says this, quote, apart from Levine's personal gender
00:04:50.900 confusion, critics note that Levine ran Pennsylvania's draconian COVID-19 response,
00:04:55.820 pushing nursing homes to readmit Wuhan coronavirus patients and ordering two-year-olds to wear masks in
00:05:01.800 public. His nursing home stance was particularly controversial in light of the revelation that he moved his
00:05:07.300 95-year-old mother out of a nursing home at the same time. Of course, once again, rules for thee and
00:05:13.120 not for me. He is also a radical, quote, he has been a longtime outspoken proponent of gender
00:05:20.620 affirmation. That's in quotes and, quote, sex reassignment treatment for minors. In a 2017 lecture,
00:05:28.840 he endorsed puberty blockers to gender confused children throughout puberty, followed by, quote,
00:05:34.040 sex change surgery at 18. While transgender surgery usually is performed only on adults,
00:05:40.020 Levine said, quote, there are exceptions. Last month, Senator Rand Paul slammed Levine for his refusal to
00:05:46.800 say absolutely minors shouldn't be making decisions to amputate their breasts or to amputate their
00:05:54.300 genitalia. So Levine wouldn't say whether or not he endorses that kind of procedure even without
00:06:00.560 parental consent. Mind you, that Richard Levine, for the majority of his career, served as a pediatrician.
00:06:07.780 So I said this on Twitter, and it's absolutely true. No one cares what a privileged white man says
00:06:14.320 or does until he says he's a woman. Now, just because of that declaration, he is a part of the
00:06:20.300 oppressed class. I think I've said this before, but it reminds me of it reminds me of Michael Scott
00:06:26.840 when he, you know, comes out into the open in the office. He says, I declare bankruptcy. And Oscar's
00:06:34.960 like, you can't just say that you are bankrupt. And he's like, well, I didn't just say it. I declared
00:06:41.400 it. It's the same kind of power here. You can't just declare that you're a woman, but apparently you
00:06:46.060 can. You're a part of the oppressed class. You get all of these accolades. You get the New York Times
00:06:50.160 saying that you are the first female four-star admiral. It's amazing. So for 50 years, you're a
00:06:56.700 part of the allegedly oppressive cis-hetero patriarchy, and now you're a shero. And now you've 0.82
00:07:02.620 beat out all the other women who have worked hard to get where you are. And now when an actual woman 1.00
00:07:07.960 gets to this level, it'll be old news. It won't matter. She won't get the same accolades. A woman's 1.00
00:07:12.960 already done it. Someone actually told me on Instagram, I got a message because I posted, I did
00:07:20.800 a post on Instagram just saying you should never trust an entity who says a man can become a woman.
00:07:26.460 And then I posted the New York Times tweet. And then I posted a picture of Levine. And it was the
00:07:31.200 picture of Levine, I think, that the New York Times posted. But it's a publicly available official
00:07:37.200 picture. I didn't pick some bad picture. I mean, he's posed for this picture with makeup on and all that
00:07:41.940 stuff. And someone messaged me and said it was mean. It was mean of me to post that picture,
00:07:47.800 that that was unchristlike to post that picture. I'm just confused by that. Like, I used his official
00:07:52.960 professional recent photo. If you think that's mean, then what are you saying? What are you saying
00:07:58.740 if you think that's rude? I don't know. If you're uncomfortable with his picture, maybe you should
00:08:04.320 think about that a little bit. Like, ask yourself why a picture of someone who is very clearly a man
00:08:08.920 with long hair and lipstick calling himself a woman makes you uncomfortable? Is it perhaps
00:08:13.460 because you know that's not a woman and that he doesn't look like a woman? And we just are going
00:08:19.160 to obscure that fact and we're going to pretend that someone who presents like this is just as much of
00:08:25.380 a woman as anyone else? It's insane. It's a little bit insane, right? Like, let's not let's try to 1.00
00:08:32.240 remove ourselves from the double think and let's examine the discomfort, the natural discomfort that you
00:08:36.800 might feel within that. I think a point says something very true.
00:08:41.480 So LGBTQ activists like to say that people like me, when I'm talking about the definition of what a
00:08:47.960 woman is, that we are reducing women to their genitalia and their ability to have kids. And 1.00
00:08:53.140 that's just an awful thing to do, apparently. By saying that only women have a uterus. And to be a 1.00
00:09:00.580 woman, you have to have a certain biological makeup. They say, oh, well, a woman is more than that. 1.00
00:09:06.600 That's so reductionistic. That's so objectifying. That's so weird to reduce a woman to just her 1.00
00:09:12.680 body and her anatomy. No, no, no, no, no. They are the ones reducing. I mean, these are the same people
00:09:19.620 that are defining people by their body parts. Like Teen Vogue actually had a actually had a picture
00:09:27.940 trying, you know, pointing out different parts of the female anatomy. And they said people without a 1.00
00:09:34.200 prostate. Okay. So who is really reducing people to their anatomy? Is it me who says, oh, you know,
00:09:41.980 only women have a uterus. Only women can give birth. Only women have female chromosomes. Or it's the 1.00
00:09:47.800 people who are saying gestators or people with a vagina. I mean, come on, guys, come on. They are the
00:09:54.380 ones reducing women because they are actually saying, in addition to use using crazy newspeak language, 1.00
00:10:01.400 they are saying that a woman is not biology. It's actually just long hair and makeup, which is way 1.00
00:10:07.980 more superficial than saying that a woman is defined by her biology. They're saying that, oh, 0.99
00:10:14.120 yeah, you know, it's just these changes in your appearance. It's pronouns in your bio. It's a
00:10:18.580 declaration. It's a decision. It's a skirt and heels. That's way more superficial than saying only a
00:10:24.300 woman has a uterus. A woman is way more than just pronouns in your bio. It's way more than just a 1.00
00:10:30.300 declaration and a decision to wear makeup one day. Being a woman means being an adult human female.
00:10:38.060 That is the definition of what it means to be a woman, which means that you have female chromosomes 1.00
00:10:42.560 and everything that comes from that. And before someone says something about intersex, those are
00:10:50.640 intersex disorders are very rare disorders. They exist. The people who have them are, of course, 1.00
00:10:56.240 made in the image of God, wonderful, beautiful, but they don't negate the existence of male and
00:11:00.700 female in the same way, as I've said many times, that people born with one leg don't negate the
00:11:04.780 fact that human beings are bipeds. So yes, being a man and being a woman, these things are defined
00:11:12.480 by your body. And in that body and with the hormones and the brain that comes with being male or female,
00:11:19.640 your experiences also differ. That is part of what makes male and female. That doesn't mean that all
00:11:27.460 men and all women have the same experiences, but many do. And those experiences matter. And they do
00:11:34.000 make up part of what it means to be male and female in addition to the primary designator, which is our
00:11:40.000 bodies, the makeup of which was determined at the moment of conception in our DNA. One of those experiences
00:11:46.040 yesterday, I shared this on Instagram. I was driving. I stopped at a stoplight. I was talking
00:11:52.660 to my dad on the phone. I looked over to my right and there was this old guy in his pickup truck next
00:11:57.800 to me, just staring at me. And, you know, every woman has had that moment of discomfort where you're
00:12:02.640 like, don't make eye contact, don't make eye contact. But I accidentally did because I looked
00:12:06.340 over and I'm always kind of looking to see is who is next to me in the car for this very reason,
00:12:10.680 because it's, you know, you can feel uncomfortable in these type of situations. Unfortunately, these
00:12:17.340 are just things that women typically think about, even though I was in a safe area, but I made eye 0.99
00:12:22.180 contact. And when I saw him, he started making kissing faces at me. It was disgusting. It was,
00:12:28.640 it was disgusting. And I was so thankful when the light turned green and he turned right and I kept
00:12:34.140 going straight because it made me nervous. Like I said, I was fine. I was fine. It was, you know,
00:12:39.060 in a crowded safe area, but it's off putting. It makes you feel unsafe. Every woman that I know 1.00
00:12:44.660 has experienced something like that at one time or another. And we don't even really think about it.
00:12:50.600 Rachel Levine has never experienced this. I said this on Instagram and people thought I was talking
00:12:56.380 about his looks and I wasn't, I actually wasn't talking about because he looks a certain way. I was
00:13:01.540 just talking about the fact that he lived 50 years as a man. And so he's never experienced something
00:13:06.660 like that. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I and every other woman have experienced
00:13:11.080 things like that throughout our lives. There's a particularly, a particular vulnerability
00:13:15.460 that comes with being a woman, being the smaller, weaker sex that does make parts of life more 1.00
00:13:21.880 challenging from childhood through adulthood. I'm certainly not throwing some pity party here.
00:13:26.620 That's just the way it is. There's a reason why women are predominantly the victims of domestic 1.00
00:13:31.440 violence and sexual abuse. It's because of the innate biological differences between men and women. 1.00
00:13:37.060 These things do matter. And yes, there are differences, obviously, in the processes of
00:13:42.100 puberty between boys and girls that are also part of the defining experiences that make men and women
00:13:48.080 what we are. The experience of conception and childbirth, if these things are experienced,
00:13:54.840 do make men and women very different. Not every woman has gone through, for example,
00:14:00.080 C-sections like I have. And I'm not saying that someone who has not, a woman who has not given
00:14:05.300 birth or gotten pregnant or any of those things, that they're less of a woman. Obviously, that's 1.00
00:14:10.520 another red herring misrepresentative argument that, you know, the LGBTQ activists make that if I say 0.72
00:14:22.700 that only women can give birth, they think that I'm saying that only people who give birth can be women.
00:14:27.660 And that's not what I'm saying. But the experience surrounding childbirth and the pain that comes
00:14:34.220 with all of that, the experiences that come with no matter what kind of birth that you had. For me, it
00:14:40.680 was C-sections and it was a very uniquely painful and female experience that my husband and all of his
00:14:47.800 experiences as a man will never be able to know himself. That is part of what constitutes as the
00:14:57.940 differences between men and women. And in an age where people say that lived experience is supreme,
00:15:05.840 is equal to objective truth, which obviously I deny, but a lot of the same people that reject female
00:15:13.140 lived experiences. They're the people who are also saying lived experience is so important. Like,
00:15:18.640 why is this so hard to understand that the lived experience of women is different than the lived 0.97
00:15:24.820 experience of men? And these things matter. I know people are going to say, well, trans women,
00:15:31.880 as they are called, experience harassment and distress and went through difficult puberty themselves.
00:15:38.100 And they have their own experiences. They have their own distresses. Yes, sure. But these are not
00:15:43.600 female experiences. These are experiences of males who are dressing as women. That's a different 0.97
00:15:50.960 experience. I'm happy to hear about those experiences, but they're not experiences of women. 0.97
00:15:57.620 Imagine a white person underwent procedures to make themselves look like a black person when they're 30 0.66
00:16:04.040 years old. They changed their skin color. Maybe they even went so far as to try to change 0.95
00:16:08.020 the texture of their hair, even the shape of their facial features, you know, kind of like Rachel
00:16:14.000 Dolezal. Remember Rachel Dolezal? She, you know, said that she identified as a black person. Would you
00:16:19.900 consider that person black? And the question is, why not? Why would you not consider that person black?
00:16:26.220 They lived their whole life white, but then at age 30, they decided to undergo a transformation to make
00:16:31.860 them look like a black person. And they insisted everyone affirm their new identity. Why wouldn't you
00:16:37.020 affirm their new identity? Because you know that being black is more than the color of your skin.
00:16:43.380 It's more than just appearance. It's, it's part of your DNA. It's also the experiences that you've had
00:16:48.820 living as a black person that a white person probably can't fully know. While race is a social
00:16:55.260 construct, ethnicity is not a social construct. It's not something that you can just take on and off.
00:17:01.500 I mean, it is, it's part of who you are. It's part of your biology and your identity. It doesn't matter
00:17:07.860 what you declare yourself to be. You can't declare yourself a new ethnicity. It just doesn't work like
00:17:13.380 that. And no one would accept that. And like, if all of a sudden at 30 years old, a white person
00:17:18.580 declared themselves to be a black person and they said, you know, I've really been oppressed
00:17:21.960 as a black person my whole life, uh, you would deny that, right? Like you would say, no, I'm sorry.
00:17:27.860 That doesn't count. You have not had the same experiences as a black person. And that actually 0.90
00:17:32.060 matters. Okay. Well, it's the same thing with gender. A man can become a woman no more easily 0.57
00:17:37.960 than a white person can become a black person. And it's honestly, it's insane. I know I keep on using 0.99
00:17:43.800 that word, but it's insane that this even has to be explained. Now, perhaps Levine truly struggles
00:17:51.100 with gender dysphoria and we should have compassion for that. Absolutely. People with gender dysphoria,
00:17:57.080 which is a very rare mental disorder, it is categorized as mental disorder by the DSM-5.
00:18:02.380 I'm sure that'll change one day. That doesn't change the fact, but they feel discomfort in their
00:18:08.720 bodies because of their sex. And can you imagine feeling that way? I mean, I can't, I can only try to
00:18:16.000 imagine how distressing and how depressing it would be to feel like you're trapped in your body.
00:18:20.480 And that your internal sense of who you are doesn't match what you see in the mirror.
00:18:26.120 That would be really, really hard. But that is, that's a very rare disorder. And as we've discussed
00:18:31.700 on the show with Walt Heyer and with other people who are experts in this field, Walt Heyer though,
00:18:36.860 is he's experienced this himself. He is a man who presented himself as a female for decades before
00:18:42.820 accepting who he is as a man. He works with people who identify as transgender. And he has found that
00:18:48.240 many people who are, who he's talking to are actually struggling with other kinds of disorders.
00:18:54.140 So other kinds of body dysmorphia, autogynophilia, depression, anxiety, other paraphilias,
00:18:59.820 and they're not actually getting the treatment or consideration they should be getting because
00:19:05.120 the field of psychology and even pediatrics is only for really political and ideological reasons,
00:19:14.240 only allowed to do what's called gender affirmation and put kids, minors, adults down this road of 1.00
00:19:24.360 procedures, of medical procedures in order to try to get their bodies to match their inward
00:19:30.780 declaration. That is not how you should be treating people that have all kinds of different disorders and
00:19:39.460 different problems that are unfortunately being misdiagnosed as gender dysphoria. I have no idea
00:19:45.180 what category Rachel Levine falls into, but to identify as something that is not your sex is a disorder
00:19:52.240 and no one is obligated to affirm it as reality. So we can have compassion for someone's struggle
00:19:59.180 without affirming that which we know is not true. For the New York Times to say that Rachel Levine
00:20:05.520 is female, not just transgender or a so-called trans woman, but female? I mean, come on. Like,
00:20:15.980 how do people not see that that is Orwellian nonsense? Like, how do you not see that this is
00:20:21.200 just as ridiculous as saying that two and two make five or that a dog can identify as a lizard or a
00:20:26.160 white person can identify as a black person? Saying a man can become a woman or vice versa is just as 0.98
00:20:31.940 absurd as any of those things. And we knew that as recently as 10 years ago. Rachel Levine is a man.
00:20:38.880 He has male chromosomes. He had or has male genitalia. There is nothing about him that is female except for 0.80
00:20:44.700 his changed name. That is why I am using he, him pronouns, because I refuse to buy into the premise
00:20:50.600 that biology is bigotry. And pronouns have always corresponded with biology, not so-called gender
00:20:57.300 identity. Gender identity, as we've talked about many times, is not a real scientific concept. It
00:21:02.700 was made up by a doctor named John Money in the 1960s. Like I said, we've talked about this many
00:21:08.320 times on the show before, so I won't get into all of the details that would take another, you know,
00:21:12.360 20 minutes to get through. You can look it up or you can go back and listen to the episode in which I
00:21:16.240 explained this. But the guy was a pervert. He was an abuser and his theory was proven totally wrong.
00:21:21.460 The boy he tried to convince was a girl ended up realizing he was a boy when he was a teenager. He later
00:21:26.140 committed suicide. He later committed suicide as an adult. It's a horrible story. And that's the
00:21:32.080 origin of this concept of gender identity, along with another pervert named Alfred Kinsey. So no,
00:21:38.320 like I'm not going to go along with the pronoun nonsense, which gives credence to an idea that I
00:21:44.740 see as very destructive, as very harmful, and again, as insane, because it's a lie. It's a lie.
00:21:51.480 Now, I want to get in to the Christian perspective on this in just one second.
00:21:57.140 So as a Christian, I am called, we are called to be loving, one, and to be reasonable. And love
00:22:06.000 doesn't mean whatever we want it to mean. Love, according to the God who is love, as 1 John 4 says,
00:22:12.900 is not endless tolerance or unconditional acceptance or eternal empathy. Empathy is not a fruit of the
00:22:19.540 spirit. We could do a whole episode on that. I think that's another term like nuanced and like
00:22:23.900 tension that is used when people really don't know how to articulate a true perspective on a particular
00:22:32.100 situation. We'll get into that in another episode. But 1 Corinthians 13, 6 says,
00:22:37.240 love rejoices with the truth. And the truth is, according to what we know as Christians,
00:22:46.640 is that God made us male and female. We read that in Genesis 127. That fixed dichotomy is part of what
00:22:54.200 it means to be made in God's image, as that verse says. Philippians 4, 5 says that our reasonableness
00:23:01.040 as Christians should be made known to everyone. How many Christians, myself included, very often
00:23:07.200 need to hear that. So it's not by our strong feelings. It's not by our emotional reactions.
00:23:12.060 It's not by even our empathy that we should primarily be known. It's our reasonableness.
00:23:19.040 It's our love that is rooted in truth. Now, let me read you also James 3, 16 through 17.
00:23:25.420 For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder in every vile practice.
00:23:32.520 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason,
00:23:39.380 full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere. Christians are to be reasonable and loving.
00:23:47.880 And our love is reasonable. It is rooted in truth. If it's not rooted in truth, then it's not love.
00:23:53.380 Our wisdom is reasonable. It is persuaded by facts, by logic, by solid argumentation. But
00:23:59.960 ultimately, it is found in our fear of God and our adherence to his word. You also notice in that
00:24:06.780 passage from James, the word disorder. I talked about this on Instagram yesterday, that disorder
00:24:12.360 and chaos and lawlessness and confusion are always depicted very negatively in the Bible.
00:24:18.080 We see from beginning to end that God is a God of order. He is a God of process. He is a God of
00:24:24.860 boundaries, of parameters, of definitions. And as his children, we follow these. We rejoice in them.
00:24:32.400 We celebrate the confines and the constraints that he has placed upon us for our good. Read Psalm 119,
00:24:38.660 and you will see the posture of the expected posture of Christians when it comes to God's rules.
00:24:45.040 Christians are not called to be constantly swayed by our feelings. Toss to and fro on every wind of
00:24:51.580 doctrine. I think that's in Ephesians 3, if I remember correctly. We are called to grow up into
00:24:57.300 him that is the head. That's also in that Ephesians passage. We are not called to be swayed
00:25:03.600 by feelings, even feelings that we may feel are justified because we call them empathy. If empathy is
00:25:10.140 not rooted in truth, then that's not love. We are not called to agree with everyone. We are not called
00:25:15.980 to affirm everyone's identities and decisions. You're being told that simply respecting people's
00:25:20.120 humanity, that's not true. God tells us what it means to respect someone's humanity. He defines
00:25:25.280 humanity as being made in God's image. He defines being made in God's image in Genesis 127 as being
00:25:30.780 made male and female. So we don't believe as Christians in self-identity and self-defining at all.
00:25:36.760 We believe in a God who made us and tells us what we are and why we're here. We take on a posture of
00:25:44.300 submission, not a posture of self-identity and self-empowerment. We don't follow the God of self.
00:25:49.840 We follow the God of scripture. Those two things can't go together. We can't out-love, out-compassion
00:25:56.540 God. There are too many, I think, social justice professing Christians and certainly social justice 1.00
00:26:03.680 activists who are not Christians who believe that they can out-love, out-compassion God by
00:26:08.760 watering down what he says in his word. But the God who is love, 1 John 4, 8, we're not love. God
00:26:17.480 is. So he defines it and everything that he does and says then is done from love. And he says that
00:26:23.780 he made us male and female. Therefore, it is loving to affirm that truth. No matter what everyone else
00:26:29.520 says, we cannot out-love, out-compassion God. And we can see what happens in society in general when
00:26:35.680 we deny human nature, when we go against God's design, when we perpetuate a lie. Like a man who
00:26:41.880 says that he is a woman is a woman. You get laws like those in California and Washington, which allow 0.95
00:26:47.820 male sexual abusers to share prison cells with women because they've now declared themselves women. 0.65
00:26:54.820 And you don't see it going the opposite, by the way. You don't see women declaring themselves men 0.86
00:26:59.100 so they can transfer to the men's prison. Think about that. That is actually a law that is allowing
00:27:06.940 what I just described to happen right now. Men, even sex offenders, transferring into women's prisons
00:27:12.660 because of their self-declarations. You see the problem with self-declaration, right? Like you see
00:27:16.940 the problem with going against human nature. Progressivism always gets human nature wrong and
00:27:20.960 always to society's detriment. You get a boy in Loudoun County, Virginia, calling himself gender 1.00
00:27:26.440 fluid, wearing a skirt and raping, reportedly, a ninth grade girl because their new policy in that
00:27:33.980 district allows for boys who identify as non-binary or who identify as girls to go into girls' restrooms.
00:27:40.000 Like how many times do we have to see this kind of stuff to realize that conservative slippery slope
00:27:46.420 arguments, so-called slippery slope arguments, their so-called fear-mongering will always manifest
00:27:51.820 themselves because it's really not a slippery slope fallacy. It's just deductive reasoning.
00:27:56.100 These are not one-off situations. And I don't mean to highlight that one boy who I believe
00:28:00.180 has probably been a victim of a predatory system who unfortunately has apparently not been led well
00:28:09.140 by the adults in his life, but now he has made a victim of someone else.
00:28:13.040 Like this kind of thing is happening probably much more than we're even hearing about.
00:28:18.820 This is not to say that all people who identify as transgender are predators or even close to most
00:28:24.260 of them. I don't, I don't believe that. Certainly people who truly struggle with gender dysphoria,
00:28:27.920 like these are not the people who are walking around. These are not the men who are walking
00:28:32.020 around naked in women's spas, like at we spa. That is not a characteristic that you see of people
00:28:38.040 who truly have gender dysphoria and are very uncomfortable in their bodies. Unfortunately,
00:28:42.700 this is something that is being exploited, capitalized on by predators because this is
00:28:47.920 the world of self-declaration. You're not going to test the validities of the validity of someone's
00:28:52.500 self-identity. If you believe in the God of self, if you believe in this postmodern notion that truth
00:28:57.780 is relative and that we get to decide who we are and what our truth is, then you have no basis to
00:29:02.920 question whether or not the guy who is parading around naked in the women's locker room at we
00:29:06.860 spa in LA really identifies as a woman. He says that he does. And apparently that is like the only,
00:29:13.440 that's the only qualifier. That's the only signifier. This is the danger of self-definition
00:29:17.640 and self-identification. This is the danger of going against the laws of nature that God has
00:29:22.540 compassionately and wisely designed for us. So I'm, but I'm not saying, of course, like I said,
00:29:29.160 that most people who are truly transgender are predators. That is not the point that I'm making.
00:29:34.680 It is to say that lies create bad policy and policy affects people, as we say so often.
00:29:42.980 In the same way that lies about the police led to defunding the police, which led to a rise in
00:29:47.260 homicides, victims of which are disproportionately black. That's always the case with social justice. 0.98
00:29:52.020 The intentions are to help the most vulnerable. The result is enabling predators and making
00:29:56.000 victims even more vulnerable. So no, no, no. That's my answer to all of that. No, I reject it
00:30:04.220 all. I reject every bit of it from the very premise that a person can choose their gender,
00:30:08.620 from the premise that gender and sex are detached somehow. I reject the misuse of pronouns. I reject
00:30:14.980 the redefining of terms. I reject the superficial, destructive, lazy idea that love and compassion
00:30:20.420 just mean affirming whatever everyone wants you to affirm. I reject it. And I encourage you to,
00:30:27.200 as well, to just be courageous and clear. And pastors, teachers of the Bible, have you been
00:30:32.860 consistently clear on this? Because I promise you, the people who follow you, the people in your
00:30:37.680 congregation are wondering about this. And if you allow them to drift towards what culture says about
00:30:44.660 these things, in a few years, their language surrounding this issue is going to be indistinguishable
00:30:50.800 from the rest of the world. Because the world has a very, the secular world has a very strong PR team.
00:30:58.780 They are all the global and national institutions that we see, and certainly all of the mainstream
00:31:03.220 media outlets, even outlets like Fox News and the New York Post to use feminine, female pronouns
00:31:09.760 for males. And so it's very easy to be swayed by the culture and to believe that that's what it looks
00:31:16.480 like to be loving. So pastors, Bible teachers, anyone who is discipling young people or discipling
00:31:22.360 anyone, make sure that you are consistent and clear and courageous on this because people are
00:31:27.240 wondering about this. And if they're not getting their answers from you, a trusted teacher of the
00:31:31.660 word, a Christian who is supposed to be discipling them in this, then I promise you they are going to 1.00
00:31:37.360 get their answers from a random 21-year-old on TikTok who says that, you know, Jesus is a
00:31:42.180 transgender communist. They're going to get their answers from somewhere. Don't you want the answers 1.00
00:31:46.820 to be from you? And if you're scared of being controversial, if you're scared that you're going
00:31:52.820 to offend people, then I just have to question your courage on sharing a much more controversial
00:31:57.580 truth, which is the gospel. Like I always say, this is a Genesis 1 issue, first chapter of the Bible,
00:32:03.340 very foundational, male and female. I have a hard time believing that for a very long time,
00:32:10.480 you are going to be able to defend a much more controversial truth, which is John 14, 6, that
00:32:15.840 Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through him. If you're not
00:32:20.840 even going to defend and define what God defends and defines in the first chapter of the Bible. Again,
00:32:29.260 this is fundamental to what it means to be human, to be made in God's image, and to deny and to
00:32:35.620 redefine what it means to be male and female is to try to deny and redefine not just what it means to
00:32:42.100 be human or just not just humanity, but also the divine. And Christians should really have no part of 1.00
00:32:48.300 that. This isn't difficult. Like it's difficult in some ways because it certainly takes courage,
00:32:52.660 but it's not complex. Like it's very, very simple. I mean, I'm just so grateful to the Lord that He has
00:32:59.480 offered us so much clarity and wisdom in all of this. I really hate confusion, and I'm just so
00:33:04.640 grateful that the Lord has given us such a strong and firm and clear foundation on something that is
00:33:09.520 now apparently a very controversial topic. Margaret Atwood seems to somewhat agree with what we're
00:33:17.380 saying. I don't think from a Christian perspective, but she seems to see the importance of,
00:33:21.440 you know, saying that women are women. She wrote The Handmaid's Tale, which liberal feminists have 1.00
00:33:26.940 interpreted as a tale of the dangers of the dangers of American patriarchy. They, you know, whip out
00:33:34.960 their red robes whenever there's anti-abortion policy or when there's a judge like Brett Kavanaugh
00:33:41.340 being confirmed as a justice. They claim that everything is A Handmaid's Tale. It's yet to
00:33:46.300 manifest itself. It's super embarrassing, honestly, when they do this. It's weird, but they love
00:33:51.040 drama. Liberal feminists love drama, and they love Margaret Atwood for helping them create this 0.84
00:33:56.200 drama. And, you know, the book obviously turned into a show on Hulu or something. I've never seen
00:34:01.040 it. However, Atwood tweeted out an article from the Toronto Star titled, Why Can't We Say Woman
00:34:08.760 Anymore? The article criticizes the language that we've now adopted, person with a uterus, etc.
00:34:15.760 But the author, I don't believe, is any kind of conservative. And Atwood is certainly a leftist.
00:34:21.380 If you go to her Twitter timeline, she's always posting about climate change and things like that.
00:34:25.860 But people just went after her, calling her a turf, calling her a bigot, telling her to do better, 0.97
00:34:31.480 just slamming her. There were, of course, people who respectfully disagreed with her and tried to get
00:34:36.360 her to change her mind or clarify her position or things like that. And even if I disagree with their
00:34:41.220 pushback, I appreciate people who can respectfully have that dialogue. But I'm sure that she sees what
00:34:47.980 we should be able to see, that this is really a misogynistic movement, whether the intention is
00:34:52.620 that or not. Like these people actually hate women and want to diminish what makes womanhood unique. 0.85
00:34:59.660 And like you're seeing that we're not having this big debate about men and women who want to identify
00:35:05.460 as women who want to identify as men. Like we're not really talking about that. That's because we
00:35:12.240 know that women are particularly vulnerable. And we are being we are the ones who are being forced to
00:35:17.900 change our language. We are the ones who are being forced to give up our privacy, our protection,
00:35:21.960 our safety. And it doesn't seem to really go the other way. Like, how do you not see that?
00:35:25.920 Um, people are arguing against Margaret Atwood, um, that you can still say woman, uh, you should just 0.84
00:35:34.540 use other words too. And you know, that's the point. That's what they're saying in response to her.
00:35:40.460 Well, actually, if you look at the CDC, for example, uh, the word woman is often replaced with
00:35:47.160 ridiculous terms, like people with uteruses. Um, only women have uteruses guys. Only women give birth. 1.00
00:35:55.620 That's never going to change no matter how much you want to try. Declarations just don't have the
00:36:01.080 power to change that. And Handmaid's Tale, um, they live in this totalitarian patriarchal state 0.91
00:36:06.780 called Gilead. Well, get this. So I saw someone post a screenshot of this, and this was just
00:36:12.420 crazy. I couldn't believe that it was true. And I had to look up the article myself just to verify it.
00:36:17.720 So back in 2019, the New York Times reported on a company called Gilead, which has made a new HIV
00:36:25.220 drug. So here's what the, so, um, the title of the article is FDA approves new HIV prevention drug,
00:36:32.900 but not for everyone. Uh, the drugs maker Gilead sciences tested it only in men and transgender 0.68
00:36:41.300 women. The FDA noted some activists and scientists said the approval sets a dangerous precedent by
00:36:47.100 allowing companies to dodge the expensive trials needed to test medicines on cisgender women and other
00:36:53.080 groups at risk of HIV infection. Um, so men and men, because transgender women is the terminology for,
00:37:02.520 um, for men who identify as women. So this company only tested this HIV drug in men and men who identify
00:37:10.820 as women. So here's what the, here's the byline, uh, for, uh, the summary under the title of this
00:37:18.840 article says, citing a lack of evidence, the agency will require Gilead to conduct additional trials
00:37:24.620 and individuals, ready individuals who have receptive vaginal sex. That's the new term that the FDA is
00:37:34.560 using, or at least in 2019, uh, for women, individuals who have receptive vaginal sex. But yes, it's people
00:37:42.380 like me who are just reducing women to their biology. Like think about this, think about this, 1.00
00:37:48.940 think about the consequences of something like this. I'm not sure how much longer agencies like
00:37:56.580 the FDA are even going to be able to get away with saying something like that. Think about that. Like
00:38:01.740 we constantly hear this nonsensical maxim, trans women aren't women. And, and they believe that like
00:38:07.740 the people who say that really believe that trans women are women. Like that doesn't even mean
00:38:11.320 anything, but so if a company, uh, tats a drug only on men and so-called transgender women in both the
00:38:19.940 company and the FDA, which is already so corrupt and left wing in many ways, anyway, have to accept
00:38:25.680 that trans women are women. That's the, that's the maxim. That's the religious doctrine that you have
00:38:31.140 to buy into in order to be a compassionate person and accepted and polite society. Will a company be
00:38:36.880 able to get away with saying, will the FDA be able to get away with saying this drug, um,
00:38:44.040 has been tested on men and women when it's actually only been tested on men? Like we definitely see 0.92
00:38:51.580 where that's going. Like if you believe trans women are women and a company says this has been tested on 0.58
00:38:58.060 men and, and women, and they don't even have to specify at all, then we're just going to assume that
00:39:05.100 it's been tested on everyone when it hasn't. Like you see, that's just one of the many ways that
00:39:11.340 medicine and that science are going to be bent to delusion in a way that once again is going to harm
00:39:17.640 women. Men and women's bodies are different. We react to illnesses differently, to medications
00:39:23.540 differently. This is one reason why God hates chaos and why we as Christians should hate it. It's not
00:39:29.620 loving. It's not loving. Do not give an inch. Don't give an inch on this. It's not a loving thing to do.
00:39:35.280 It's not a reasonable thing to do. It's not a truthful thing to do. So when I see the conservative
00:39:39.400 outlets, like I said earlier, like Fox news or the New York post or other conservatives using quote
00:39:44.060 preferred pronouns, which I have seen even some of my conservative friend influencers do. I just want
00:39:50.080 you guys to know that you are enabling this stuff. You're enabling the madness that really hurts
00:39:55.100 people. That hurts women. Speaking of hurting people, by the way, in all of this, people are
00:40:03.020 still claiming that Dave Chappelle hurt them in his Netflix special, which we discussed last week.
00:40:09.320 I wrote an article about this for World Magazine too. Chappelle published a new Netflix special called
00:40:15.680 The Closer in which he says, ginger is a fact. He says that he's on J.K. Rowling's side,
00:40:20.740 on team turf, as it were. He said that everyone got here by being birthed by a woman. People have
00:40:29.520 been freaking out about this ever since, even though he makes fun of every other kind of person
00:40:33.640 imaginable. I'm not saying that I've been this Dave Chappelle fan for a long time. Obviously,
00:40:38.760 as a Christian, there are a lot of crass things and appropriate things that he says 1.00
00:40:42.040 that I don't like and I don't agree with. But have I ever tried to cancel him because he is
00:40:48.860 hated on white people or made fun of Christians or conservatives or things like that? Remember
00:40:53.760 when he went after Candace Owens and he said some really rude things about Candace Owens? She laughed 0.99
00:40:57.880 about it. She didn't try to get him canceled. This is a huge difference between the right and the left.
00:41:02.740 When the right gets offended, they typically, they're getting offended for, they are typically,
00:41:10.140 not always, I know there's some cancel culture on the right and some snowflakery on the right,
00:41:14.340 certainly. But the indignation manifests itself differently. It is not, you hurt my particular
00:41:22.700 marginalized identity and now I want to see your entire life destroyed. It is, hey, we think this 0.95
00:41:29.380 is inappropriate. This is wrong. This is inaccurate. And here's why we think that this shouldn't be
00:41:35.560 promoted anymore. Like the Cuties movie when they had scantily clad 11-year-old girls 1.00
00:41:42.580 in very strange, suggestive positions on their advertisement. Yeah, like that seems legitimate
00:41:49.540 for Christians to say, you know what, this isn't appropriate. These are children. And as children,
00:41:55.380 they can't actually technically consent to this kind of stuff. Like this is wrong. You see how that is
00:42:01.880 different than saying this comedian made a joke about the group that I represent as well as tons of
00:42:09.080 other groups and therefore it needs to be taken off of Netflix and the head of Netflix needs to resign.
00:42:16.400 It's, I mean, this is exactly what Dave Chappelle said would, said would happen. He made fun of the
00:42:23.040 LGBTQ activist crowd for being more sensitive than any other group that he has ever criticized or made
00:42:29.840 fun of. So some Netflix employees staged a walkout yesterday to protest the special and then a couple
00:42:36.800 counter-protesters showed up. They had signs that just said, jokes are funny. We like Dave. Like
00:42:43.060 they weren't saying anything inflammatory. It was just kind of funny. But let me show you a little clip
00:42:47.540 of something that went down.
00:42:55.800 Okay. So you didn't see the little part after that, but, um, so the, one of the guys, if you're
00:43:16.300 listening to this, one of the protesters against Netflix and against Dave Chappelle broke the sign
00:43:23.660 of a guy who had a sign that just said, like, I like Dave. And he was kind of sarcastically and
00:43:30.260 funnily singing trans lives matter. And so one of the protesters took his sign, broke it. And like the 0.59
00:43:38.760 stick that the sign was on, he gave it back to the counter protester, the pro, the pro Dave Chappelle
00:43:44.560 protester, and then starts yelling, he has a weapon. He has a weapon. He has a weapon. I mean,
00:43:50.200 how funny, how funny is that? Um, and then of course the counter protester made fun of that was
00:43:57.060 like, Oh yeah, I have a weapon that you literally just created and then gave to me. Oh my gosh,
00:44:02.600 these people are not well. Uh, so these are again, the same people who said that the right was freaking
00:44:08.040 out about an advertisement, you know, the cuties advertisement with the scantily clad young girls,
00:44:12.940 but they're mad because Chappelle said that we all came from women. I mean, what, what, what you guys?
00:44:20.900 Um, also yesterday was, uh, apparently international pronouns day. I mean, I love grammar. So if
00:44:29.880 international pronouns day is a way to celebrate one part of grammar, that's great. I love that. I love
00:44:36.960 international pronouns day, but apparently that's not what it is. Apparently, according to the
00:44:42.680 state department, all right, the state department, they tweeted today on international pronouns day,
00:44:48.980 we share many people, we share why many people list pronouns on their email and social media
00:44:54.380 profiles. So that's our governments guys. That's our government. Once again, insane. Um, in 1984,
00:45:02.240 Orwell says there was truth and there was untruth. And if you clung to the truth, even against the whole
00:45:08.880 world, you were not mad. It's really important for us to maintain our sanity, stay reasonable,
00:45:16.340 stay truthful, stay sane, cling to what you know to be true. Two and two make four. A man is a man,
00:45:22.720 a woman is a woman. You will be vindicated either in this life or the next. So we can cling to that.
00:45:29.420 Speaking of just awesome women, girl power, if you will, and truth and people speaking up about 0.96
00:45:38.800 unpopular things in a way that is eloquent and persuasive. I just wanted to end on a great
00:45:44.540 positive, inspiring note. Condoleezza Rice went into the lion's den on the view and she pushed back
00:45:50.740 against the tenets of critical race theory. Here's what she said. A whole issue of critical race theory
00:45:56.040 and what is and is not being taught. Um, I come out of an academic institution and, uh, this is a
00:46:02.140 something that academics debate. What is the role of race and so forth? And let me be very clear. I
00:46:06.760 grew up in segregated Birmingham, Alabama. Um, I couldn't go to a movie theater or to a restaurant
00:46:11.520 with my parents. I went to segregated schools till we moved to Denver. My parents never thought I was
00:46:17.080 going to grow up in a world without prejudice, but they also told me that's somebody else's problem,
00:46:21.460 not yours. You're going to overcome it and you are going to be anything you want to be. And that's
00:46:27.480 the message that I think we ought to be sending to kids. One of the worries that I have about the way
00:46:33.060 that we're, we're talking about race is that it either seems so big that somehow white people now
00:46:39.920 have to feel guilty for everything that happened in the past. I, I don't think that's very productive
00:46:44.200 or black people have to feel disempowered by race. I would like black kids to be completely empowered
00:46:53.580 to know that they are beautiful in their blackness. But in order to do that, I don't have to make white 0.97
00:46:58.840 kids feel bad for being white. So somehow this is a conversation that has gone in the wrong direction.
00:47:05.180 Yep. 100% love Condoleezza Rice. And you know, I think that's how the majority of Americans feel.
00:47:10.880 And yeah, we have let these radical ideologues take over our institutions and the consequences
00:47:17.520 are just, are dire. Um, but let's listen to an inspiring woman like Condoleezza Rice. It's very
00:47:24.500 simple. It's very simple. And isn't that the kind of world that we want? So thank you Condoleezza Rice
00:47:29.940 for articulating that so well. All right. Can you hear my, this is my, uh, drum roll. So I'm announcing
00:47:39.000 the winner of our giveaway. So if you remember 500th episode, we said that there was going to
00:47:46.140 be a giveaway winner and we've been trying to figure out like, how are we going to choose,
00:47:51.600 uh, the winner? We randomly selected people. Uh, we randomly selected a person out of the people who
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00:48:10.640 Maybe we will play some of those every week in the coming weeks, just to kind of give you guys a
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00:50:23.720 Love you guys. See you back here on Monday.