Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 511 ｜ Dog Experiments, ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ & Dads Stepping Up ｜ Guest： Jason Whitlock

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend. Today

00:00:15.280 I am talking with Jason Whitlock. He is a Blaze TV host like me of the show Fearless

00:00:21.600 with Jason Whitlock. We'll be talking to him in a few minutes about a few stories. We'll

00:00:27.300 be talking about Black Lives Matter protesting the NBA's punishment of Kyrie Irving because

00:00:34.320 he refuses to get vaccinated. We'll also be talking about the backlash that Condoleezza

00:00:39.440 Rice has received after she said on The View last week that, you know, she denounces the

00:00:43.520 principles of critical race theory. We'll also be talking about this awesome story. There's

00:00:50.020 a group called Dads on Duty who has really revolutionized in a positive way a school in

00:00:56.520 Louisiana just by being present there. They've reduced violence. And so we're going to talk

00:01:01.760 about that. We're going to get his take on all of those things. First, I do want to talk

00:01:06.280 about a few stories that I saw circulating this weekend that I just wanted to comment

00:01:10.060 on. Probably the biggest one, the thing that was just causing so much uproar on social media

00:01:18.880 was this story that was actually published a few weeks ago. But I think it's just getting

00:01:23.320 attention now because Congress is doing something about it. There was reporting originally by the

00:01:27.700 Daily Caller that the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, led by Dr. Fauci,

00:01:37.040 funded experiments on dogs. So this included hundreds of thousands of dollars sent to a lab

00:01:43.060 in northern Africa where beagles allegedly, beagle puppies had their heads placed in mesh cages.

00:01:49.400 There are these pictures going around of this. We'll put it up if we have it. While sand flies

00:01:54.420 ate them alive. Some dogs apparently had their vocal cords removed so they couldn't bark. According

00:02:01.260 to documents obtained via a Freedom of Information Act request by taxpayer watchdog group White Coat

00:02:07.720 Waste Project and subsequent media coverage from October 2018 until February 2019, NIAID spent $1.86

00:02:17.400 million in taxpayer funds on drug tests involving 44 beagle puppies, even though the FDA says they don't

00:02:26.900 need animal experimentation to approve a drug. And so now there are a lot of people understandably

00:02:32.700 upset about this. There is a group of a bipartisan group of 24 lawmakers, mostly Republicans, led by

00:02:39.180 Republican from South Carolina, I believe, not North Carolina, Nancy Mace. She sent a letter demanding

00:02:46.080 Fauci answer for this allocation of taxpayer dollars. Like I said, this is very understandable

00:02:51.980 why people are outreached about this. Helpless animals being cruelly treated for any reason is

00:02:58.400 terrible. I mean, it tugs at our heartstrings. They can't do anything about it. They don't have

00:03:01.900 a voice. They can't fight back any time of a vulnerable animal or human being is being victimized in

00:03:09.080 this way. It's going to cause outrage and it's going to be really sad, as it should be. However,

00:03:16.800 however, as we discussed last week, this is not the worst thing funded by Fauci's agency and also

00:03:24.780 the National Institutes of Health, which was recently led by someone, Francis Collins, who calls himself

00:03:29.380 a Christian. I'll link to the episode that we did on that last week talking about that. It was revealed

00:03:35.360 earlier this year that these agencies were funding experiments at the University of Pittsburgh using

00:03:39.960 organs from babies up to 42 weeks gestation. So we're talking about probably a seven to eight pound

00:03:44.860 baby. If it's coming out at 42 weeks, probably about an eight pound baby, as well as scalping unborn

00:03:50.080 babies and grafting the scalp onto mice. And so these were babies that were aborted allegedly by the local

00:03:58.760 Planned Parenthood. We saw pictures of this. They're publicly available. Again, we will link the,

00:04:04.280 we'll link my past episode that has the links to all of these studies that you can see for yourself.

00:04:09.320 We've seen the pictures. We've seen the pictures of the little human baby hairs growing on the side

00:04:13.660 of these mice because the scalps were grafted onto my skin. It's alleged by David Daleiden that Pitt has

00:04:20.220 a quid pro quo relationship with Planned Parenthood in their area. Planned Parenthood provides them,

00:04:26.360 again, allegedly with these aborted babies and Pitt offers something. I'm not sure what that is in

00:04:31.340 return funded by our taxpayer dollars. That did not get a fraction of the outrage or news coverage that

00:04:39.060 this dog stuff has. And so what does that say about human nature? What does that say about where we

00:04:45.840 are? I'm okay with being outraged about the dog stuff. I do. I understand. Like that makes me really

00:04:51.820 sad too. But human beings matter more. They matter more than animals. That statement alone will get

00:04:59.780 people really upset with you. We'll get people really angry at you. That's not me justifying

00:05:05.360 cruelty towards animals. And it doesn't even matter what I say. Some people are going to hear me say

00:05:09.700 that anyway, somehow, because that's what they want to hear. Human beings matter more. They always

00:05:15.160 matter more, whether it's inside the womb or outside the womb, whether that human being is disabled,

00:05:20.000 whether that human being is old, whether that human being is producing, a producing member of society,

00:05:26.700 a contributing member of society, or not. Human beings matter more than animals. And therefore,

00:05:33.280 the mistreatment of humans should solicit our outrage more than the mistreatment of animals.

00:05:40.380 I had someone say on Twitter, you know, we should be equally outraged about both. We can be equally

00:05:45.380 outraged about both. No, that would be really weird. We should not be equally outraged about both.

00:05:52.220 We should care about human beings more. That used to just be something that we knew.

00:05:57.000 It does come from a Christian perspective. It's kind of hard to argue it from a secular perspective,

00:06:01.640 because, you know, secularists just believe that we are evolved monkeys, but human beings believe

00:06:08.600 that we were made in the image of God. We were made in God's image. And because of that,

00:06:14.860 the frailest, most fragile, least quote-unquote productive human being matters more than even

00:06:22.980 the winningest horse matters more than Seabiscuit. That life matters more. So our energy, our compassion

00:06:30.340 should go toward that before our energy and compassion goes towards an animal. Yes, it can be both,

00:06:37.040 but we have to so order our loves so that we are reflecting God's heart. And when a society,

00:06:44.800 not just individuals, but when a society gets those priorities out of whack, we're going to see

00:06:50.060 really bad things. You don't see the elevation of the care of animals. You actually see the degradation

00:06:55.940 of our view of human beings when we believe that human beings and animals are just kind of on equal

00:07:03.400 playing field when it comes to their inherent worth. Wherever you see, this is J.K. Chesterton,

00:07:08.300 he said, wherever you see animal worship, you always see human sacrifice and specifically child

00:07:14.260 sacrifice. And so I think we certainly see that today, at least in the general public. Now we're

00:07:20.960 also seeing in our institutions cruelty towards animals, which I think is wrong. And I also think

00:07:26.840 is a sin. All I'm saying is like, let's not have our priorities out of whack. Let's not have our

00:07:31.300 outrage be out of whack, out of alignment. However, if this is the thing that takes Fauci down,

00:07:42.860 like if this is the one thing that makes people mad, not funding the research that very likely

00:07:48.620 caused this entire pandemic that has cost millions and millions of lives. If it's not that, if it's not

00:07:54.960 lying about that, if it's not his back and forth on every single COVID policy, if it's not his funding

00:08:02.980 of some of the horrific research that we just talked about using fetal organs, then maybe it'll be the

00:08:09.240 dogs. And if it's the dogs that takes Fauci down, then so be it. So be it. All right. I want to talk

00:08:18.740 about this article in the Washington Post from Ashley Parker. She wrote about Let's Go Brandon

00:08:30.380 in an article titled Biden's Critics Hurl Increasingly Vulgar Taunts. Now, I've explained this

00:08:37.400 a couple of times on Twitter, but I know not everyone is quite as online as, you know, as some

00:08:44.020 Twitter users are. So maybe you have no idea why people are talking about Brandon. What is Let's

00:08:48.420 Go Brandon? Okay, let me clue you in on this. So there have been, and I'm not condoning, I'm not

00:08:54.320 condoning this. I'm just explaining what's been happening. So at football games across the country

00:09:01.220 since August or whenever football season started, people have been leading stadium-wide chants of

00:09:08.500 F Joe Biden. And, you know, they are not saying F Joe Biden. They are saying the word. They're saying

00:09:14.820 F Joe Biden. And this also happened at a NASCAR race a few weeks ago. And the guy who won that particular

00:09:24.100 NASCAR race, his name is Brandon. He was doing an interview after the race with an NBC reporter in front

00:09:31.580 of a crowd. And the crowd behind him was saying F Joe Biden, as has happened in many stadiums across

00:09:39.200 the country. And the sweet NBC reporter trying to cover it up, trying to change what was happening,

00:09:47.040 because, you know, this is embarrassing and you're not supposed to have those kind of expletives

00:09:50.900 on air. She said, oh, the crowd is saying, let's go, Brandon. When everyone knew what the crowd was

00:09:57.860 saying. But she thought, I think, you know, maybe she really thought that they were saying, let's go,

00:10:01.680 Brandon. But it kind of seemed like she was trying to cover it up to make it, you know, seem like that's

00:10:06.080 not what was happening. And so now everyone, when they want to say that Joe Biden is doing a bad job or

00:10:13.180 they're angry at Joe Biden or they want to say F Joe Biden, they say, let's go, Brandon. Like that's

00:10:17.820 basically a code for saying F Joe Biden. And that's why I've kind of been torn on saying let's go,

00:10:23.800 Brandon, myself, because it is effectively cussing. And that's not something that I want to do.

00:10:30.000 I do believe Christians are called to in Ephesians to only to let no corrupting talk come out of your

00:10:36.760 mouths only, such as is good for building up that it may give grace to those who hear and, you know,

00:10:43.540 saying something like F Joe Biden obviously is not doing that. Although I understand the sentiment.

00:10:50.900 I mean, when you're looking at, you know, empty grocery shelves, when you are hearing someone

00:10:56.680 like Jen Psaki basically make fun of the supply chain issues that we're having and try to turn it 0.98

00:11:02.740 into, you know, some kind of right wing attack on paternity leave because Pete Buttigieg has been

00:11:08.560 MIA as the secretary of transportation. When they don't care about the problems that are happening at 0.99

00:11:15.040 the border, the issues that are facing and are detrimental to the Americans that they said that

00:11:21.120 they were going to unify and lead when you are seeing him use coercion and very draconian tactics

00:11:26.860 to try to punish people who choose not to be vaccinated or states that aren't going along with

00:11:32.040 his vaccine mandates. I understand the sentiment of of wanting to say, let's go, Brandon. And I think

00:11:37.600 I have said, let's go, Brandon, once on Instagram when Jen Psaki said, oh, supply chain issues, the

00:11:44.260 tragedy of the treadmill that's delayed. Well, no, Jen Psaki, there's also there's also supplies that

00:11:53.360 are needed for hospitals. They're needed for PICUs. They're needed for NICUs. They are needed for sick

00:11:59.780 patients that are unable to get some of the equipment that they need. Tubing, for example.

00:12:07.400 Syringes like we rely on the supply chain to be able to supply these things to save people's lives.

00:12:13.080 And Jen Psaki is basically rolling her eyes and treating it like it's just some, you know, 1.00

00:12:19.160 it's not a big deal. And that did elicit a let's go, Brandon, from me. However, I stand by what I

00:12:26.480 said about it's probably not the best things for Christians to say, even though I understand the 1.00

00:12:30.480 sentiment. Ashley Parker, this reporter for The Washington Post, apparently doesn't understand

00:12:35.320 the sentiment at all. She writes, like I said, Biden's critics hurl increasingly vulgar

00:12:40.240 taunts. And she talks about visiting Scranton, Pennsylvania, and how the people that the people

00:12:50.380 that she met were basically racist. So she says that. But it's clear that after nine months in office,

00:12:58.700 Biden or at least what he represents is increasingly becoming an object of hatred to many

00:13:02.940 Trump supporters. She doesn't say why. She never says why people are angry at him. She doesn't

00:13:08.020 list any of the problems that are going on in the country and maybe why people are upset with Joe

00:13:12.160 Biden. She just says, oh, he's becoming an object of hatred. The vitriol partly reflects Trump's

00:13:17.120 repeated baseless claims that Biden is a usurper. So again, their hatred of Biden isn't based on

00:13:22.260 anything real. Is it based on any of the issues that I just explained? It's based on a lie. If it

00:13:28.540 weren't for Trump, she's basically arguing, she's implying that everyone would love Joe Biden. But

00:13:32.540 because Trump lies about Joe Biden, that's the only reason why people are upset. She said partly

00:13:38.520 stems from Biden's actions that Republicans deplore from his spending plans to his immigration policies.

00:13:45.020 And so again, she is delegitimizing any reason why someone might be upset with him. Like,

00:13:50.660 let's look at the unemployment numbers. Let's look again at the empty grocery shelves. Let's look at some

00:13:55.360 of, yes, the immigration policies that he has put forth or at least failed to put forth that has

00:14:01.180 led to an unprecedented number of migrants crossing the border illegally and unaccompanying minors at

00:14:08.280 the border. Yes, that is why people are upset. But basically, she's delegitimizing it as something that,

00:14:13.580 you know, doesn't really matter. So then she goes on to explain what I just explained,

00:14:18.780 where Let's Go Brandon comes from. And she goes on to say this is this is her reasoning why this

00:14:25.260 is happening. Quote, when Trump was in office, he deployed public profanity in a way unlike any

00:14:30.380 other modern president, which his supporters saw as truth telling and his opponents as vulgarity and

00:14:35.160 sometimes racism. He railed against immigrants from SHIT whole countries. He tweeted that Senator 1.00

00:14:42.240 Mitt Romney was a pompous ASS. He was elected after boasting of grabbing women's crotches. Sometimes he 1.00

00:14:52.140 prompted obscenities from Democrats in return. So that's the that's the only thing that she says

00:14:57.480 about the vitriol that was directed by Donald Trump. Now, it's true that Trump said things that

00:15:02.360 I didn't like that I didn't agree with. That's absolutely true. But there are some problems with

00:15:06.280 this. One, like look at the vulgarity and the death threats, the chopping off of a fake head of

00:15:14.240 Donald Trump by Kathy Griffith. There was a Kathy, Kathy Griffin. I never know her name. But when

00:15:22.100 Trump was president, I mean, there was in remember that woman when when Donald Trump and his when his

00:15:31.400 car was going by in D.C. and there was a woman who was riding her bike who flipped off his car and,

00:15:39.000 you know, his band of Secret Service cars. And she was a hero. People loved her on the left. They didn't

00:15:45.420 have anything to say about the insults, about the vulgarity, about the profanity, about the threats that

00:15:51.960 were launched towards Donald Trump and Trump and Trump supporters. And the article goes on to say,

00:15:57.540 one of many legacies of the Trump presidency is he normal. He normalized angry speech. Trump

00:16:03.340 normalize angry speech. Like I know most people don't remember the Bush era. And I was kind of

00:16:08.920 young to remember the Bush era. But I know enough. I've read enough to know that Bush was compared to

00:16:14.800 a Nazi. You're telling me that Trump we can go. Gosh, we can go back to Alexander Hamilton. Like we 0.64

00:16:20.720 can go back to Jefferson. We can go back to the political rhetoric that founded this country. And you

00:16:25.860 will see a normalization of partisanship and angry speech. And yes, even vulgarity and salacious

00:16:31.760 rumors and all kinds of stuff. That's not to let Trump off the hook. I have never claimed that

00:16:36.820 Trump is some moral exemplar. But this is what the Washington Post, the so-called democracy dies in

00:16:43.600 darkness publication. This is what they do. They give you slanted reporting. They say that it's the

00:16:48.580 whole story. They say that it's the news and not just a particular opinion. And then people who don't

00:16:53.580 know better, who don't want to know better, leave with a particular impression that the only reason

00:16:58.720 that people could be mad at Joe Biden is because Trump. It's always still because Trump. These

00:17:03.700 people are obsessed with Trump. They think Trump is the originator of all of our problems when he's

00:17:08.640 not. He might be if you're on the left, like you might consider him a problem, whatever. But to paint

00:17:16.880 anyone who criticizes Joe Biden as a racist or some kind of QAnon conspiracy theorist who just believes 0.51

00:17:23.900 everything that Trump says about a stolen election, you're wrong. Like your bigotry and your

00:17:28.880 condescension and your bias is so clearly showing. And they know this. They know this. And what I said

00:17:33.920 on Twitter is that this is not really hypocrisy. Like this is what these journalists and activists

00:17:38.880 do. This is what they do. They actually apply the same principle very consistently. And it's so it's not

00:17:45.820 hypocrisy. And their principle is this. It is OK to harm and harass someone that you don't like. It is not

00:17:53.340 OK to harm or harass or even criticize someone that you do like. So that's the principle. So there is

00:17:58.880 no hypocrisy in them saying it's OK to criticize or to harass or to threaten Donald Trump. But it's

00:18:04.780 not OK to do so towards Joe Biden. That's not hypocrisy. That is their principle. That is their

00:18:10.260 that is their MO. That's what they do. You are not allowed to disagree with them or the people they

00:18:16.480 hoist up as political heroes. That's the rule. And so I'm not at all surprised by this. I'm not

00:18:23.300 surprised by the outright lying like they turned a lighthearted conservative meme, which is very

00:18:30.820 innocuous. Again, you're not going to find me like going around and yelling it and saying it all the

00:18:36.660 time. But it's a lighthearted meme that they turned into this, you know, white supremacist rallying cry

00:18:46.080 that's more about Donald Trump than anything else. And it's just not true. It's not true. But this is

00:18:52.040 what they do. These people hate you like they hate you. And I heard this last week. I think it was by

00:18:58.920 Seth Dillon who runs the Babylon Bee. He said, you know who has the power and whose power you should

00:19:05.060 really fear based on who you're not allowed to make fun of. If you are not allowed to tell a lighthearted

00:19:12.260 joke about a person, then then that is that's the person and that's the entity that all other entities

00:19:20.880 are supporting. Because it's not just that Joe Biden is mad about this. It's that everyone else is

00:19:27.700 running cover for him. I someone sent me they were trying to sell Let's Go Brandon t-shirts on Etsy.

00:19:34.580 Etsy took their t-shirts down. I don't know if this is happening to everyone who tried to sell it

00:19:39.600 to sell those t-shirts on Etsy. But Etsy took took it down. Spotify took a Let's Go Brandon,

00:19:46.920 you know, funny rap off of the top charts on Spotify. YouTube has apparently censored some

00:19:54.260 videos that are saying Let's Go Brandon. I mean, really, like this is going to threaten

00:20:01.400 y'all's fragility that much? Let's Go Brandon? I mean, that's like that's what authoritarians do.

00:20:09.160 That's what authoritarians do. They don't even allow jokes about them. But honestly,

00:20:14.540 it kind of makes me it kind of makes me happy. Because at this point, I'm not saying I'm not

00:20:19.380 condoning using that language. But at this point, like you should absolutely be doubling down

00:20:23.540 in your criticism. They obviously are threatened by it. They're very fragile, little tiny babies.

00:20:29.840 And you need to continue to voice your criticism. As I say, raise a respectful ruckus. You don't have

00:20:35.780 to use vulgarity to do that. But don't be intimidated. And don't buy into this hit job

00:20:42.700 on people who use Let's Go Brandon by The Washington Post that basically tries to liken

00:20:47.580 them to, you know, QAnon white supremacists. It's crazy. This is what they do. Make sure 1.00

00:20:52.440 that you're picking up on that. Jason, thank you so much for joining us. All right. First,

00:20:59.940 I want to hear your take on this Black Lives Matter. They're staging a vaccine mandate protest 1.00

00:21:06.140 at NYC's Barclays Center to demand unvaccinated Kyrie Irving be able to play in NBA games. I'm a

00:21:14.540 little surprised by this. I don't typically find myself aligning with Black Lives Matter,

00:21:19.200 although I have seen them push back against this. What's your take on it?

00:21:22.360 I think that Black Lives Matter in New York has carved a little bit of a different path

00:21:31.180 than the rest of the Black Lives Matter organizations. I think the group out of New York

00:21:36.760 questioned some of the handling of the financing as it related to Patrisse Cullors, I think.

00:21:44.060 And so they've always had a little independent philosophy or, I don't know, style about themselves.

00:21:53.600 And so I'm like you. I don't agree with them often, but this is the second time I've agreed

00:22:02.000 with them in terms of them questioning, you know, what's going on with the money and now

00:22:07.240 questioning the vaccine mandate. And literally in New York, the impact, the disparity impact in terms

00:22:17.100 of the number of Black people in New York that are unvaccinated, that are being impacted by this

00:22:24.560 mandate. I think this is what BLM should be doing, is defending Kyrie Irving. And then even if you

00:22:32.300 remove race out of it, if you just understand American freedom and what this country was founded

00:22:39.860 upon, you know, I think it's a proper stance for BLM and other organizations to be supporting

00:22:46.580 Kyrie Irving. I think what Kyrie is doing, and people keep getting upset with me and friends of

00:22:52.660 mine like Charles Barkley, you know, passionately disagree with me, but I think what Kyrie Irving's

00:22:58.260 doing is as courageous as what Muhammad Ali did years ago when refusing to be inducted into the

00:23:06.060 draft. That was Muhammad Ali standing up to the establishment and taking a real risk. And I think

00:23:12.300 Kyrie Irving is taking a real risk here and standing up to the establishment. I don't think he's going to

00:23:18.060 do it forever, but I'm glad someone's doing it and forcing a conversation and forcing groups like BLM 0.63

00:23:26.480 and others to cut out, you know, positions that aren't in such promotion of the establishment

00:23:33.120 and in promotion of the elite. So I think what Kyrie's doing is courageous and he's starting a

00:23:39.060 conversation that is very necessary. And at least this chapter of BLM is actually consistent because

00:23:45.900 this is like the Ibram X. Kendi definition of racism. You know, he says it's not necessarily intent,

00:23:54.120 it's impact. So if any law or policy just happens to disproportionately affect negatively affect black

00:23:59.760 people, then that is racist. Now, I don't necessarily agree with that, but at least apply 0.86

00:24:05.820 that principle consistently. You don't see people like Ibram X. Kendi and other so-called anti-racists

00:24:10.220 really speaking up about the vaccine mandate, which is disproportionately affecting black Americans

00:24:15.600 because a large percentage of them are unvaccinated. Like at least this chapter of BLM is being

00:24:21.700 consistent in applying their principles, even if I disagree with them in some ways. But I'm glad,

00:24:27.220 I'm glad that they're speaking up about this. And you said that you don't think Kyrie Irving is

00:24:31.320 necessarily going to hold out forever. What do you think is going to happen? Because obviously

00:24:36.840 something's got to give, right? Well, I think there's so much money on the line. And I think that

00:24:45.580 the Brooklyn Nets have a chance to win a championship and that would be important to

00:24:51.000 Kyrie's legacy and Kevin Durant's legacy and James Harden's legacy. And you have to remember, Ali,

00:24:57.020 I know you probably don't follow the NBA that close, but NBA players in recent years look for every

00:25:03.640 reason possible to miss games, particularly early in the season. They really only want to play in the

00:25:10.120 postseason. And so I could see Kyrie, NBA, it starts in October, but the season really, really doesn't

00:25:20.640 kick off until Christmas. And so I could see Kyrie holding out until around Christmas or just after

00:25:28.920 Christmas and then coming back and playing, having made his point, having, you know, sparked a lot of

00:25:36.720 conversation around this. But I would be shocked. Now, I would love it if he set out the entire season

00:25:44.640 or even if he just set out the regular season and did come back and play in the postseason.

00:25:49.900 I would love that. The longer this goes on, the better, the more opportunities for us to discuss it,

00:25:55.900 the more opportunities for people that don't understand. Because I think it was like Glenn Greenwald

00:26:02.760 was early on this. I was talking about it months ago that, hey, look, these vaccine mandates are

00:26:11.180 going to impact black people the most. And I know that corporate media is trying to tell you that,

00:26:18.160 oh, it's just Trump supporters and they're the worst people on the planet. And so let them all die or, 1.00

00:26:23.240 you know, they're the evil people. And I was like, no, you're lying to people. It's not 1.00

00:26:27.140 Trump supporters who are the least likely to be vaccinated. It's actually black people. And 0.98

00:26:34.640 these rules are, just think of the cost to black people in New York. They can't go to a restaurant. 0.99

00:26:44.640 They can't go to inside a grocery store, I think. All of this is just adding expense to their life.

00:26:51.200 And all these social justice warriors, that's their number one concern. Oh, what can we do to protect

00:26:56.500 the voiceless or the disadvantaged or the discriminated against? The mandates don't do

00:27:03.360 that. And particularly, I know this well, we're trying to protect them from the consequences of

00:27:10.000 COVID. Well, the consequences of COVID, 1% may die. And I've said this, Ali, and I don't say this

00:27:20.880 to be humorous. I say it to be dead serious. The vaccine is for 50-year-old overweight people like 1.00

00:27:28.940 myself. That's not the great mass of people. This COVID thing just doesn't wipe out 29-year-old

00:27:40.280 super healthy athletes like Kyrie Irvin or young people or young children.

00:27:46.860 And if it does, it's rare enough. Obviously, I'm sure it happens. There's a story about everything,

00:27:53.260 but it's rare enough to allow people like that or really to allow anyone, but especially the

00:27:59.640 population that you're talking about, to have the choice and certainly not to lose their livelihood

00:28:03.480 or their access to basic accommodations because they don't make that particular choice, right?

00:28:11.020 Absolutely. And I, you know, I just went home this past weekend and visited my family and

00:28:18.480 everybody there is in my family. They're all pro-vaccine. And for as soon as they hug you,

00:28:26.700 they tell you, I'm fully vaccinated. And they're always shocked when I say, I'm fully unvaccinated.

00:28:35.700 And at some point I will get vaccinated, but I don't blame the people that are waiting.

00:28:45.440 And because I put up a target, I said, you know what, summer of 22, there'll be enough information

00:28:50.900 about the vaccine that I'll be more comfortable getting it. And I think I'm a very reasonable

00:28:56.900 person. And look, I understand that my weight and age make it that, you know, the vaccine's probably

00:29:03.860 for me, but I still want to be patient. I don't have a death wish. I'm not some idiot. These people,

00:29:10.740 Kyrie Irvin isn't some idiot. These people that are vaccine hesitant aren't stupid. Vaccines take a 1.00

00:29:18.080 long time to develop. They don't get this kind of FDA approval this soon. I know I'm getting a little,

00:29:23.280 I'll probably get us kicked off YouTube. So let me shut up. Yeah. You know, sometimes I was a guest 0.64

00:29:28.180 on a, I was a guest on another podcast last week and we were talking about so-called Rachel Levine.

00:29:32.580 And I had to say the same thing. I said, you know what, I'm going to do my best not to get you kicked

00:29:36.220 off YouTube and to hold my tongue on, on some things. But no, I think, you know, my audience understands

00:29:43.080 what you're saying and people, the fact is that people don't like to be dehumanized,

00:29:47.240 bullied, condescended by people like Joe Biden, basically making everyone who is hesitant about 0.98

00:29:52.040 the vaccine seem stupid, seem like a parasite, seem like, you know, some kind of burden on 0.99

00:29:59.080 society when the numbers don't even necessarily prove that to be true. Anyway, I want to talk 1.00

00:30:05.020 about also someone who is getting a lot of pushback. We talked about Condoleezza Rice and what she said

00:30:09.600 on The View last week. We played the clip. She just said, you know, these principles of critical race

00:30:15.280 theory, they're not really helping anything. They're disempowering black kids and they are making 1.00

00:30:20.300 white kids feel bad about themselves. And then, of course, there were people on the left who got super 0.96

00:30:25.540 upset about that. There is a journalist who calls himself Torre. I don't even know. I know that he's

00:30:31.960 been hit with a few sexual harassment allegations and he says some crazy things on, on Twitter. But he

00:30:38.820 says, and let me read it for you. So he says that she is a, Condoleezza Rice is a soldier for

00:30:48.700 white supremacy. White children and adults should absolutely feel bad about the past atrocities 0.83

00:30:55.060 committed by white Americans. They should feel guilty. They should cringe at what their ancestors 0.99

00:30:59.520 did. They should also understand that modern white power is directly related to those atrocities,

00:31:04.500 blah, blah, blah, blah. So this is the general sentiment about Condoleezza Rice, who grew up in

00:31:08.700 segregated Alabama, that she's just a foot soldier for white supremacists. What say you? 1.00

00:31:16.720 Look, real white supremacy is in convincing young black people that you can't make it in this world. 1.00

00:31:27.080 You're so weak. You're so impotent. You can't do what your ancestors did. You can't do what Barack Obama 1.00

00:31:36.960 did. You can't do what Martin Luther King did, Frederick Douglass, Booker T. Washington. You're weak

00:31:43.620 and impotent and you're so intellectually unsavvy that unless we bend all the rules in your favor, 0.98

00:31:52.780 you can't do what we've seen many people, millions of people do, what my grandparents did, what my

00:32:00.880 parents did. You can't do it. And so I a thousand percent agree with Condoleezza Rice, where critical

00:32:09.700 race theory is trying to convince black people that you don't have any agency in this world. 0.54

00:32:17.300 You're not in control of your destiny. You're not as strong as your ancestors who overcame

00:32:23.600 far worse than hurt feelings or being misgendered or whatever they come up with that is somehow so

00:32:32.500 crippling. And so I think the actual opposite is true. Condoleezza Rice actually believes in black 0.99

00:32:42.420 black people and believes that we can do incredible things. I think that comments like the man you

00:32:49.760 quoted are coming from and where this society has gone. When you live in a secular society and everyone

00:32:56.500 basically abandons belief in God or they only have a very surface level belief in God that, you know,

00:33:05.380 because I was brought up in a church where we were taught all things are possible through Christ.

00:33:11.160 And if God is on my side, how can I fail? And that's like, I authentically believe that. And so I came

00:33:18.180 from a very impoverished background. And because of the sacrifices of my parents, I was able to accomplish

00:33:25.620 incredible things and do nice things for my family and escalate or rise up the American economic ladder

00:33:34.000 and status ladder and all that. And we're doing black kids a disservice by telling them that this

00:33:42.940 country is so unfair that they can't make it. And we're doing a disservice to white kids of telling 0.99

00:33:49.240 them that things that happened 100 years ago, things that happened 50 years ago, things that you weren't

00:33:56.100 involved with should be a burden that you carry and should feel bad about. And it goes back to being a

00:34:01.860 secular society because God and my understanding of the Bible, he just doesn't burden people with the

00:34:11.880 sins of their fathers or mothers or grandparents. And so when you come, I, Ibram X. Kendi and all these

00:34:22.520 other people, they're coming from a secular worldview where basically the white liberal is God and, and he's

00:34:34.520 an idol. And without the white liberals, uh, doing things for black people or, or repenting all their 0.84

00:34:41.940 sins or living in this guilt ridden place, nothing good can happen in the world. And I, I just reject that. 0.98

00:34:48.640 And I, I try to appeal, uh, to black people that a lot of this messaging is targeted at. It's like, Hey, these

00:34:55.780 things they're teaching in critical race theory just aren't consistent with the values that were taught in the

00:35:02.960 church through Christianity. And, and I think that should give you pause. Yeah. And you question that, that perhaps what

00:35:13.640 they're preaching is a satanic worldview. And, and I say that in all seriousness, uh, that's what I

00:35:20.500 believe that they're Satanists and they're preaching a satanic worldview. Yep. It is. It's so true. It

00:35:27.660 presents a completely different gospel. I like to call it the gospel of grievance because that's what it

00:35:33.220 tries to burden kids with burden people with in general is this feeling of grievance for white kids.

00:35:40.200 You feel grievance toward yourself. And as Tori said, Oh, you know, white kids should feel, um,

00:35:46.700 grievance toward their ancestors or guilty about what their ancestors did. And not only is your point

00:35:50.980 correct, that the Bible says that, uh, he, he doesn't judge generations for sins of their past,

00:35:57.740 even though the consequences of sin may last generationally, he doesn't punish, um, people for

00:36:02.700 what their grandparents did. Uh, however, this also goes to this faulty mentality or view of history,

00:36:09.020 that critical race theory posits that all white people today have ancestors who own slaves or all

00:36:15.540 white people are somehow related to ancestors or to white people who lived 200 years ago. 0.70

00:36:19.940 That's not even true. The vast majority of white people in this country do not have ancestors that

00:36:24.460 own slaves. And so it's this very strange thing that it, um, apparently all white people in America

00:36:30.960 are tied together with slave holders. All black people in America today are tied together with 1.00

00:36:35.300 slaves when that's not even historically accurate. And like, that's what people are upset about when

00:36:39.980 they're upset about critical race theory being taught in schools. It's not what a lot of activists

00:36:44.280 say that people don't want history taught or don't want slavery taught. It's that critical race theory

00:36:49.800 is a historical. It's not true. It's anti-biblical. Yes. But it's also just not reality. It doesn't look at

00:36:56.840 human nature correctly. It doesn't look at history correctly. It forgets about forgiveness and

00:37:02.620 redemption. And it only holds back. I think that's what Condoleezza Rice is getting to and what she 1.00

00:37:07.900 understands that for some reason, I don't know why other people just don't want us to be free from

00:37:15.180 the grievances and the burdens, um, that activists, like people like Ibra Max Kendi are placing on us.

00:37:22.040 It's really hard for me to understand.

00:37:23.580 Well, once you reach the conclusion, it's the work of the devil, it becomes easier to understand.

00:37:31.900 And so there's a misery that's being, uh, created and promoted through that worldview. The other

00:37:39.180 thing, Allie, is it's like, you never hear any discussion. What about the white kids whose

00:37:45.340 ancestors actually sacrificed their lives during the civil war for freedom, for black people? It's,

00:37:53.200 it's actually, and again, some people, Oh, well, they weren't fighting to end slavery. They were

00:37:58.680 fighting to preserve the union and blah, blah, blah. I was like, go listen to the battle hymn of the

00:38:03.360 Republic. Go look at the words where they actually talk about dying so that other men could live free.

00:38:10.280 They were clearly talking about black people and, and the sacrifices they were making. And it was a

00:38:17.480 sacrifice. They felt the responsibility from God and their worldview, their Christian worldview,

00:38:24.980 like, Hey, I need to make this sacrifice. I'm going to be rewarded in the afterlife for this

00:38:29.600 sacrifice so that other men can live free. What about the ancestors of those people? Do they have to

00:38:37.580 carry this burden? We don't have to go all the way back to the civil war, the white people that 0.77

00:38:42.980 supported the whole civil rights movement and, and, and many of the sacrifice me. What if you're an

00:38:48.860 ancestor of one of them? Do you, no one ever talks about them. And this isn't me trying to cape up for,

00:38:56.920 I'm, I'm really trying to cape up for Christian people. It has nothing to do with, with race,

00:39:03.500 things. But believers have accomplished great things in this country. And the fact that we had

00:39:11.260 a declaration of independence that Thomas Jefferson wrote that stated all men are created equal,

00:39:17.960 and that's because of his biblical worldview. And then we had a constitution and bill of rights

00:39:23.780 that had biblical principles placed into them. And then black people in our journey here in America

00:39:31.560 actually put pressure on America to live up to the things in the declaration, in the bill of rights,

00:39:39.880 in the U S constitution. And that's what's made America so great. Our story as black people here

00:39:48.220 is very uplifting and important to the success of America. Without our journey and our narrative,

00:39:55.380 I don't think America would be as great as it is. We put pressure, our journey put pressure

00:40:01.560 on Christians to live up to the values that they express. And that's what made America so great 0.98

00:40:08.500 and has made America so great. And to see us abandoning our biblical worldview, our faith-based

00:40:15.420 culture, our Judeo-Christian culture and values, we're just tossing it away for critical race theory

00:40:22.840 and fly-by-night intellectuals, public intellectuals like Ibram X. Kendi. These people are just popping up

00:40:30.000 out of nowhere, supported by algorithms out of Silicon Valley. And all of a sudden, they're the

00:40:36.500 experts. And these crazy people at the New York Times in their 1619 project. I just, I just, that's why

00:40:47.180 I love what you do in terms of you talk from a biblical worldview. It's so important. And I just think

00:40:55.280 if we as believers come together and put aside our superficial differences and just focus on the

00:41:02.800 word of God and take our understanding of life through that, now America has a chance to get

00:41:09.780 back on course and on direction and the freedom and equality and justice that everybody's looking

00:41:16.980 for. It comes from that. It doesn't come from critical race theory. There's no proof in the history of the

00:41:24.320 world. The critical race theory has produced the kind of results that a biblical Christian worldview 0.84

00:41:30.300 does. Yep. You're absolutely right. And people don't understand that you really can't wed critical

00:41:36.560 race theory and Christianity together because they offer two different perspectives on human nature,

00:41:41.660 two different perspectives on sin, two different perspectives on what actual salvation is, who your

00:41:46.340 savior is, even kind of what the end times will look like. The critical race theory offers this

00:41:52.680 picture of this anti-racist utopia that is very similar to communism, except racialized instead of

00:41:59.040 focused on class differences. And it's a completely different religion with different dogmas and

00:42:04.820 different doctrines. And you really can't wed the two. Your point about Thomas Jefferson, I know people

00:42:12.440 are going to say, well, Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. Yes, that's true. And I don't align with all of the

00:42:17.560 different theological assertions that he made about deism and things like that. The point is,

00:42:21.600 is like what Frederick Douglass knew is that the constitution is fundamentally an anti-slavery

00:42:29.360 document. That's what Frederick Douglass called it because of the principles that were written in

00:42:33.200 there. Not because the people who wrote them were perfect. That's not what anyone has ever said.

00:42:38.920 But because these are values based on a biblical worldview that we are all created

00:42:43.600 in God's image with certain inalienable inherent rights. People don't understand that critical race

00:42:48.880 theory actually does not believe in inherent rights. It doesn't believe in due process.

00:42:52.900 It doesn't believe in free speech. It actually believes that the constitution has led to very

00:42:56.320 bad things for our society. It's radical. It's really radical. And that's why, like you said,

00:43:02.420 it produces so much bitterness and so much bad. And as you were talking, I actually thought about this

00:43:08.520 passage in James 3, which just affirms what you're saying. It says in James 3, chapter 3,

00:43:16.640 verse 14,

00:43:46.640 sincere. So that to me, I mean, it just affirms what you're talking about, the difference between

00:43:51.700 light versus darkness, a biblical worldview, and the ones that we are seeing from the people who 0.95

00:43:55.900 claim to be anti-racist, but very often are just hypocrites, right? 0.86

00:44:01.180 Allie, one thing when you have a biblical Christian worldview, you realize there's only been one perfect 0.97

00:44:10.860 perfect person on this planet. His name was Jesus. And so I don't look for perfection in Thomas Jefferson.

00:44:18.120 I don't look for perfection in Martin Luther King Jr. I don't look for perfection in Barack Obama.

00:44:24.060 And so you sit there, oh, Thomas Jefferson owns slaves. And trust me, I think that's bad. It's really bad.

00:44:33.920 But I've asked people in this time, and again, I don't know if God has some sort of scale,

00:44:40.660 but I just ask people and say, well, I wonder what God thinks about abortion. Because we as a society

00:44:47.960 think, oh, we're so much better than Thomas Jefferson and those people from 200 and 300 years ago.

00:44:55.220 They own slaves. And I'm sitting there going like, somebody 300, 400 years from now is going to be

00:45:02.120 like, those people sanctioned abortion and took it all the way to the Supreme Court and put Planned

00:45:12.860 Parenthood clinics in every community they could and wiped out millions of unborn children. And so 0.98

00:45:20.700 I'm just not sure we're actually any better than Thomas Jefferson and those guys. It just depends

00:45:28.520 on your point of view and perspective. Yeah, that's a good point. I want to talk about a I want to talk

00:45:35.380 about a good story. A happy story about these a group of dads that decided that they were going to go

00:45:45.520 to a school that has been struggling with violence. They're calling themselves dads on duty.

00:45:51.980 And Steve Hartman at CBS reported on this. And we're going to play a clip of that new segment.

00:45:57.520 Over the course of three days, another fight, 23 students arrested for fighting massive police

00:46:03.080 response. But strangely, there hasn't been another incident since, perhaps in part because of this

00:46:09.560 most unusual crisis intervention team. Your qualifications are? We're dads. We decided

00:46:16.200 the best people who can take care of our kids are who? For us. What we do. So Michael Lafitte started

00:46:21.980 dads on duty. We're out doing what we do for our babies. A group of about 40 Southwood dads who now

00:46:27.140 hang out at the school in shifts. Let's go. Today, any negative energy that enters the building

00:46:32.220 has to run a gauntlet of good parenting. What's going on already? Because not everybody has

00:46:37.920 the father figure at home. Or a male period in their life. So just to be here makes a big difference.

00:46:45.900 Okay, tell me what you think about that.

00:46:47.640 I consider men the vaccine. And we have a plague in this country that requires men to step up and be 1.00

00:47:04.240 the cure. And there's not a problem that we have in America that can't be improved by men standing up 0.61

00:47:16.080 and doing their job. And I love what CBS did. They gave men two minutes of like, hey, here's what men can

00:47:25.660 do. And so a school system for three days is wracked by violence. 23 students arrested. And it took

00:47:35.760 40 men to flatten the curve. And they did it overnight, instantly. And we need an injection.

00:47:45.620 We need to require the jab. Men reinserting themselves and taking on the responsibilities 1.00

00:47:52.800 and roles that they were designed for to protect and serve. And so I would love to have a male energy

00:48:02.680 vaccine mandate come from above. That we require men to step up and do what we're supposed to do. 0.99

00:48:11.200 We're supposed to protect and serve. We're supposed to be the primary police officers

00:48:18.080 for every child. Mom and dad should be the first officer friendlies for every child. And to see these

00:48:27.560 men step up and just their presence instantly cures or provides relief from a plague that was hurting the

00:48:37.620 school system in Louisiana. I think it's an uplifting and inspiring message. I'm glad CBS put it out.

00:48:46.460 I wish they had given it more than two minutes because every corporate media outlet will give

00:48:53.140 conversations about the role of police officers. They'll give hours. They'll spend hours every day

00:48:58.700 talking about what police need to do this and they need to be trained better and blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:49:03.960 No, men need to return to their homes, communities, families, and lead and take responsibility 0.90

00:49:13.180 for what they created. We are the vaccine. We should require it.

00:49:20.380 That's good. So you're saying that we should have a vaccine mandate that this kind of masculinity and

00:49:27.820 strength should be a place in communities. Even the data shows this. The data shows this,

00:49:32.020 that there is a strong correlation and causal relationship between fatherlessness and crime

00:49:38.460 and depression and teen pregnancy. And yet, like you said, the media won't cover it, I guess,

00:49:43.660 because that takes away from their argument that really the government just needs to step in and do

00:49:48.200 the job that really dads are supposed to do. So they won't talk about that or they think that it's

00:49:52.720 racist or something. But if you truly cared about those that they consider marginalized, then you would

00:49:58.640 be shining a light on this. I'm thankful for these dads too. Good for them. I know some people might

00:50:03.280 think this is so-called toxic masculinity, but I think it's very productive, like you said.

00:50:07.180 All right. Can you tell everyone how they can support you, where they can watch your show?

00:50:13.360 You can watch my show on Blaze TV, any place where, on YouTube, obviously. I think it's

00:50:19.200 youtube.com slash Jason Whitlock. The show is called Fearless with Jason Whitlock. It's available

00:50:24.600 wherever podcasts are available. And we're trying to, and I appreciate you lending me your platform,

00:50:30.700 we're trying to build a fearless army of men like those dads on duty we, you, we just talked about

00:50:38.040 and show, uh, we're, you know, the show is about trying to inspire men to do our jobs.

00:50:44.720 Yep. Well, thank you so much, Jason. I appreciate you taking the time to come on.

00:50:48.560 Thank you, Ali.

00:50:54.740 All right, guys, that's it for today. A couple things. One, if you're watching on YouTube, we're

00:50:59.640 trying to get the lighting and the camera right. So before I really didn't like it because it was

00:51:06.300 like faded. I felt like I was washed out. I was kind of overly exposed and I liked Thursdays. I'm

00:51:13.080 looking down at the monitor right now. I liked Thursdays. Today looks a little yellowy greeny to 0.87

00:51:19.680 me. So I'm asking for YouTube subscribers. I'm asking for your feedback. Let me know what you

00:51:26.180 think. Um, also last week I asked for, um, I asked for your millennial moments of not wanting to do

00:51:36.360 menial tasks. This is a millennial disorder that I think that we have called errand paralysis,

00:51:41.860 where we refuse to like send back Amazon packages or go to the post office or call that person back,

00:51:49.740 listen to our voicemails. Why do we do this? I don't know, but I have it too. It's like

00:51:54.020 irrational anxiety surrounding very small things. And I want to hear like, what is that

00:51:59.420 tiny irrational thing or that tiny thing that you won't do for an irrational reason? And tell me what

00:52:05.660 your irrational reason is leave us a voicemail 682-503-1369, 682-503-1369. I think I'll be

00:52:13.220 playing some of those tomorrow. So I will see you guys back here then.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 25, 2021

Ep 511 ｜ Dog Experiments, ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ & Dads Stepping Up ｜ Guest： Jason Whitlock

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