Ep 514 ｜ Halloween： Satanic Trick or Harmless Treat？
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Summary
Should Christians celebrate Halloween? Is it a Christian holiday? What does the Bible say about Halloween and what does it mean to be a Christian on that day? And is it even a holiday at all? In this episode of Relatable, I talk about what I think about Halloween, why I don t think it should be celebrated, and why I think it's not a big deal.
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. If you're watching on YouTube and you've got
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deja vu because I'm in the same shirt that I was yesterday. Yes, I am. I am. It's Carly
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The reason I'm wearing the same shirt is because I'm recording this on Wednesday and I didn't have
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time because we're doing a quick turnaround thing. But today we are going to talk about
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Halloween. Should Christians celebrate Halloween? Now, I did answer this question. I think it was
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back in 2019. I actually interviewed my mom. Now that was back when Relatable literally, wow,
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we've come a long way. We were in my living room like without any lights or anything like that.
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We just used the brilliant light of day. And I sat on my couch and I don't even know if we like
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passed between my mom and me to like a microphone. I don't even know how it worked. But you guys loved
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the episode because my mom is awesome and she's super creative. And we talked about different ways
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to share the gospel on Halloween. And I'm going to talk a little bit more about that today. But I want
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to make sure that I give air to the different perspectives about Halloween because I do understand
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that among faithful Christians, there are different ways to look at this, or at least there are
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different ways that Christians do look at this. And I'm not saying all three are valid or I shouldn't
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say that, but that all three are right or all three are equally biblical. But these are all three
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representative, I think, of what a lot of Christians think. And maybe there's some fourth option out
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there. But these are the three that I could really boil it down to. After we talk about that,
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I will answer some questions. I really wanted to dive into the Reformation today because October
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31st is also Reformation Day. I will touch on it a little bit, but I don't have time to get all into
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that today. Maybe I'll talk about it on Monday if you guys want me to. But we've like really kind of
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taken a break off of heavy news this week. And so if you want me to talk about more COVID stuff on
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Monday, I'll also do that. Just let me know. All right, let's look at these three perspectives that I
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think represent what Christians think about Halloween. So there's one way to look at Halloween.
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The first way is who the heck cares? Who cares about Halloween? There are bigger fish to fry. There are
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bigger things to think about. There are bigger problems that we are facing. There are bigger
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theological disagreements that we have, bigger things to tackle. You might think, you know, I celebrated
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Halloween as a kid. I turned out fine. Let's not be fuddy-duddy, fundamentalist. I'm going to let my
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child trick-or-treat, dress up like a vampire, whatever. It's really not a big deal. And maybe
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you really enjoy all of that stuff. And so you don't think that it's a problem. The second way
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that I think that we can think about this is that you could shield your child from Halloween as
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completely as possible. And you could say, well, it's a night to worship Satan. It's a glorification
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of death, of decay, of darkness, of despair. And there is no benefit to my child's heart,
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mind, or spirit to introduce them to that kind of glorification. You could think that. You could say
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no trick-or-treating, no acknowledgement of the day. It's just another damn fall. We don't even say
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the word Halloween. We call it, you know, harvest or autumn or whatever. And you might go look at
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pumpkins, but that's it. Or better yet, you just say, nope, this is Reformation Day. It's only about
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Martin Luther publicizing his 95 theses, his complaints against the Catholic Church, and the
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Protestant Reformation was born with Reformation Day. And maybe that's the only thing that you even
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acknowledge that is special about October 31st. Now, there is a third way, I think. And this is the
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way that I tend to lean. A nuanced approach, if you will, as much as I think that that word sometimes
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is overused and misused by people who are just confused. Nuance in itself isn't bad. My stance
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on nuance is that we should always be pursuing the truth. Sometimes the truth is nuanced. Sometimes
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it's not. But if you're pursuing nuance, then sometimes you miss that which is true. That's maybe
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another episode for another day. But here's my more nuanced approach to Halloween. Halloween is
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a celebration of fear of death and of decay. It is. It is not a celebration of that which is good and
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right and true. Now, whether or not it is actively Satan worship, I'm not so sure about. I do think
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it's a glorification of that which is not good and right and true. And there are a few passages that
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speak to this. I'll just read two specifically. One is Ephesians 5, 7 through 11, and verses 15 through
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16 that says, therefore, do not become partners with them. He's talking about the sons of disobedience
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that Ephesians 2 talks about. It says, we were all once sons of disobedience. We were all under the
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authority of the prince of the power of the air of Satan. And Ephesians 5, 7 is saying, therefore,
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do not become partners with them. For at one time, you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord.
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We also talked about this on Tuesday. Walk as children of light. No, on Monday. Walk as children
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of light, for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true. And try to discern
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what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose
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them. Well, carefully then how you walk, not as unwise, but as wise, making the best use of the time
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because the days are evil. So I think it's a good question. Is it the best use of my family's time,
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of my child's mind? Is it the best stewardship of their heart and mind and spirit to introduce them
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to what is incontrovertibly dark? Then there's Philippians 4, 8 through 9. Finally, brothers,
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whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely,
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whatever is commendable. If there's any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about
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these things. What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, practice these things,
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and the God of peace will be with you. So I'm just speaking honestly that I don't necessarily apply
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that standard to every part of my life. Like there was a time when I would listen to murder podcasts and
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mystery podcasts that were very dark and made me very afraid. And what's the point of that? Really,
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like, what is the, what benefit does that have to my mind? And yet I did that. We were watching
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you, that very scary, like serial murder series. We're not watching it anymore, but we were watching
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it. That does not meet the standard of Philippians 4, 8 through 9. The Sopranos, one of my favorite
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series of all times, definitely does not meet the standard of Philippians 4, 8 through 9. So I don't
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want it to sound like I am, well, I guess I just want to talk about the fact that I don't apply
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that perfectly. However, that is the standard that we are to strive for. And I'm not sure if
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celebrating all the death and decay that Halloween represents meets that standard either. And I think
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we should all be asking for the power to resist any form of the glorification of darkness and sin.
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That cuts out a lot of the content that we consume. Now, I still think with those verses in mind and
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what Halloween is and represents in mind, I still think there is a way to take part in some of the fun
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of the day without celebrating darkness. Christians are in the business of redemption. We are in the
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business of making right and good the things which the world has made bad. Now, not everything I don't
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think can be repurposed because maybe it's a sin in and of itself. It's wrong. There's just no way to
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try to redefine it or finagle it so that it is different and glorifying to God. And I've also talked
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about in the cases of things like the Enneagram and yoga. These are two things that I don't take
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part in. And my mind has changed in that over time. I didn't used to feel that way because I feel that
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it's very hard to separate those two tools from its spiritual origins and intent. I will link both
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episodes I've done on those two things where I've thoroughly explained my change of heart and change
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of mind according to scripture on them. I do hold those views confidently yet loosely, not believing
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that these are salvation affecting issues. And yet I was convinced through prayer in my reading of
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scripture that these are not things that I want to repurpose or redeem. But there are parts of Halloween
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that I do believe can be redeemed and repurposed because, for example, candy is not glorification
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of darkness. Many costumes are not glorification of darkness. So can your child dress up in, say,
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a poodle skirt, eat candy with her friends, and maybe trick-or-treat at the houses that don't have
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a bunch of blood and, you know, like gravestones and zombies and skeletons all over them? I think so.
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Or depending on how old your kids are, maybe this is an opportunity to talk to your kids about death
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and why we don't glorify it, but also why it's nothing to fear for the Christian. It's certainly
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an opportunity. And not every aspect of Halloween is glorifying the darkness. Not everything violates
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that Philippians 4 passage. Now, I don't have any judgment or any condemnation against parents who say,
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you know what, it's just too hard to try to kind of separate my kids from the darkness that it represents.
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And so it's just easier if we don't celebrate it at all. If we don't go trick-or-treating, if we don't
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even talk about it, that's fine. Like, I don't have any judgment about the second option that I was
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talking about. I do think that there's a problem with saying that there's nothing wrong with Halloween,
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that we have no responsibility to protect our child's eyes and mind, and that we should not be
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at least trying to reach the standard through the power of the Holy Spirit of Philippians 4. I think
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the time has come and gone for parents to be apathetic and flippant really about anything that
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their child consumes. And it's not only social media and places like YouTube or, you know, school where kids
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can be consuming harmful content. It can even be in, again, the glorification and the normalization
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of the demonic, satanic, and the dark. Last year, we saw it as an opportunity to share the gospel with
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people who came to our house. So we put the candy in little baggies with a strip of paper with a Bible
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verse and the gospel on it. My mom has done the same thing in the past. She also makes these awesome
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signs with Bible verses that she turns into a pun, like, whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord
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and will be saved and, like, oh, dry bones, hear the word of the Lord. And so she's made—she's super
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creative. She's very artsy. I am not—I did not inherit that from my mom, but she has had these signs
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made that are so awesome. And I'll post them on Instagram so you can see for yourself. Maybe you can
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get inspired. Those of you who are artistic out there, you can put those signs in your yard. Some
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of you have since you listened to the podcast that I did with my mom a couple years ago. You made your
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own signs, and that's just warmed my heart. It's warmed my mom's heart, too. So I think that Halloween
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can be an opportunity. It can be an opportunity to talk about the gospel and the lack of fear of death
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that the gospel gives us with our kids. It can be an opportunity to share the gospel, to show
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hospitality and generosity to your neighbors. But I don't think that it's necessary to be
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hospitable and generous and share the gospel with your neighbors if you're someone who doesn't want
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to take a part in it. I am all for just the fall festival, the harvest season, the pumpkin season,
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and all of that. I think that's fine. What I do think is wrong, what I do think is unbiblical,
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is simply being laissez-faire about it and not thinking that the demonic has any power and not
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thinking that even decor, no, I don't think it's going to, you know, like that your child is going
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to become demon pizzazz or that they're not going to be saved or anything like that. I don't think
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that if they see Halloween, scary Halloween costumes and decorations. That's not what I'm
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saying. But I am saying that it's a bigger deal than I think a lot of Christians think and that we
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should just be thinking twice about it. And rather than just doing exactly what the secular world
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does when it comes to decor, when it comes to dressing up, when it comes to trick-or-treating,
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let's at least take this as an opportunity to show some redemption and to share the gospel and
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share generosity with the people around us. I also am super excited to celebrate Reformation Day.
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I don't know what we're going to do, but you guys know I'm like a hardcore Protestant. And every time
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I get, uh, every time I put a question box up on Instagram, I love, love, love my Catholic
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friends, by the way. And I love all of my Catholic listeners, but I just like love the Reformation.
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I, you know, I've totally, uh, I adhere to reformed theology, five solas, all that we've done
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episodes on all of that good stuff. And so I love Reformation Day. I love learning about the
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Reformation. I don't remember really learning about it growing up, but I love the history of
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Protestantism. And every time I put a question box up, I get a question from a beloved Catholic
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follower or listener saying, why aren't you Catholic? It's because I'm Protestant. Uh,
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so I will talk about that more on Monday. If that's something that you guys are interested in,
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don't hate me Catholic listeners. I'm sorry. Some of you have even asked me to come to mass with you.
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I've turned down your invitation, although I appreciate it. There are so many Catholic thinkers
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and writers and influencers and commentators and pro-life advocates and listeners and followers
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who I really love. So no hard feelings, but I am a Protestant because I believe in Protestantism,
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namely justification by faith alone. Again, another podcast for another day. So I think we will,
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I think we will celebrate, uh, some Reformation Day, some Reformation Day stuff. Maybe, um, I don't know
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if I come up with any ideas for how to celebrate it. I'll let you know, but I'm sure there are some
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ideas out there. I've seen some stuff on social media over the past couple of years for what
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people do to celebrate it with their child. And so I think that'd be fun. Like, I think churches
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should do that. Protestant churches should be doing that. Like you should have like a Reformation
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celebration. It is a day that is totally worth celebration for Protestant churches. And so, uh,
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I think that churches should facilitate that more. Again, I don't even remember hearing about it or
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learning about it growing up. Why isn't that a holiday for Protestant Christians? Like,
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come on. So maybe we should start that. Maybe relatable listeners should start that.
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All right. So I'm going to take a few questions from you guys. Uh, you sent me some on Instagram,
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so I'm going to take a few minutes. This is going to be a shorter episode, right? At 30 minutes. Um,
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and so for the next few minutes, I'm going to be taking some of the questions that you guys sent me,
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sent me all kinds of questions on Instagram. I guarantee you, one of the questions is,
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why are you, why are you Protestant? Uh, I won't be answering that since I just addressed it, but
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okay. Someone asked me first trimester nausea all day, every day. What helped you? Oh, I'm so
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sorry about the nausea, but congratulations. Congratulations on being pregnant. It gets
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better. So I didn't have a ton of nausea, either pregnancy. I did just like not feel great. It's kind
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of that, Oh, I don't really want to eat and I don't really want coffee. And if I don't want coffee,
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that's kind of like, that's a big deal. That's a big deal. And so I could kind of tell that I was
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pregnant maybe a little bit before I knew I was pregnant. Actually, I don't know. I took a pregnancy
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test the second time, like right at four weeks. So I didn't really have a moment to realize I was
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pregnant before I knew I was pregnant, but I remember not feeling great for me that lasts until
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like 16 weeks. It might not last that long for you. It could be after 12 weeks that you feel better.
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It could be like 20 weeks. Some people feel bad the whole time. Most people don't. Most people feel
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much better after the first trimester. And really for me, like the best weeks of pregnancy were
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probably from like 25 to 32 weeks. Then you start getting uncomfortable. Then the waddle comes on
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and then you can't turn over in the middle of the night without waking up. So that discomfort comes
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like towards the end of the last semester. Then there's a lot of discomfort in the first and the
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first trimester. But then, you know, right there in the middle, right there in the middle, it is,
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it's better. So at least have that to look forward to. I really like Pinkstork products. They don't
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sponsor the show, unfortunately, but I really like all their products. I use their prenatal vitamins.
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Your prenatal vitamins also might be making you nauseous. So make sure these don't make me nauseous.
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I like Pinkstork prenatal vitamins. They're postnatal vitamins. They also have these little lozenges
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that are supposed to help with morning sickness that I would take or that I would have every
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morning. And so, and there's different kinds of tea. I think that Pinkstork also has some tea
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that you can buy that can help with nausea. Carbs, you probably want carbs, so that's good.
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I would eat, you know, biscuits and bread, toast, things, things like that. That'll be helpful to you.
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If something doesn't sound good, don't eat it. It's fine. If something does sound good,
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then it's okay to indulge in that. Maybe don't indulge in everything like I did, but it's okay
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to be a little bit looser and just to eat what your body needs and what you actually want because
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it's still important for you to be gaining weight and consuming calories and things like that. It'll
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help you feel better too if you can get something down. So that is my, that's my tip on that.
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Um, how do I get my millennial daughter back to Jesus? Well, I have a comforting thing to say,
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and maybe a little bit of a frightening thing to say. One of the comforting things that I'm going
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to, well, it's the same thing, but it could be seen as comforting or frightening. That God is
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completely sovereign over your child's salvation. That God is going to do what he wants to do.
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That God is in charge of your daughter's eternal destiny. And if he wants to turn her heart of
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stone into a heart of flesh, he is going to do that. And his grace is irresistible. And so that's
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comforting for you because ultimately you are not in control of your child's eternal destiny.
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Now he has also, uh, he has also ordained that, uh, we pray for those who need prayer. He has also
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ordained that prayer is a tool that's actually effective, that actually works. Something that
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he calls us to as an act of obedience, but also the book of James says that the prayer of a righteous
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person has great power. And so when you're praying, you're actually doing something in really this
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mysterious way that we as finite human beings don't understand. So God is completely sovereign,
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and yet he is calling us to share the gospel and to pray. It's a little bit, it's a little bit
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strange. And yet that is clearly what scripture lays out. And so you pray for her. You continue to share
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the gospel with her. You continue to love, um, and accept her and embrace her and let her know how much
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you love her. Um, but ultimately you understand and you trust and you rest in the fact that God is
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totally in control of her heart and of her soul. And, um, he is faithful and he is good no matter what.
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And so you direct your attention towards him and worshiping and trusting him. Uh, someone asks,
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I'm in California. I want to move to give my kids a better life. What states are doing it right?
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I am hearing this a lot. Some people ask me, should I stay in my liberal state? Should I move
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from my liberal state? And it's really difficult. It's, it's really difficult to make that decision.
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I do think that a place, I mean, there are a lot of different red states. There's Arkansas,
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there's Oklahoma, there's South Carolina, there's Florida, Georgia. I still think is a pretty red state.
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There's Alabama, Texas. I know some people fear that Texas will turn purple. Maybe, maybe not,
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but those states need more conservative people to go there and to ensure that it stays red.
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All right. Next question. Uh, someone said, is it bad to work for a political party if you're a
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Christian? No, I definitely don't think so. Now you don't want to compromise on your values. Politics
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can be a very dirty business. And so you want to make sure that you are walking in integrity. And if
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there is ever a moment where it comes to, it comes to your faith or, you know, doing whatever the
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campaign asks you to do that you don't think is honorable or that you think wouldn't glorify God or
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you think is a sin, then obviously you choose to walk away from that. But we need, we need salt and
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light. We need salt and light in politics. Politics matter because policy matters because people
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matter. So we need Christians in politics, uh, in culture, making a difference, influencing people
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with the light of Christ. My next question is, um, holiday traditions to start with young kids. So we kind
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of talked about Reformation Day. I think that would be really fun. I want to, I really want to have
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traditions with my kids surrounding the holidays and ensuring that we are bringing everything,
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Easter, Christmas, Thanksgiving, Reformation Day, every holiday that we possibly can, we can bring it
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back to rejoicing in the Lord and the blessings that he's given us, the freedom that we have in Christ.
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Everything can be centered on the gospel. That's what our job is as Christian parents to lay that
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foundation, that biblical worldview so that everything they see, they make sense of using
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scripture and using the gospel of Christ. And so I don't have specific traditions for you. A lot of
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you guys are way more creative than I am. So you can come up with those specific traditions. My mom
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always did a birthday party for G, uh, for Jesus at Christmas where she would invite neighbors and people
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in her community. And we would do all of these different crafts and make sure that the celebration
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was about Jesus. Like she would have a birthday cake and all of that. As you can tell, my mom is
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very creative and it's very gospel centered. And so she's really good at all of that. So, so many
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different things, so many different things that we can do to make sure that we are sharing the gospel,
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both with our kids and the people around us. Um, other, let's see other questions that I have,
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uh, or that someone sent me Braves or Astros. Okay. I know that I'm from Texas. And so you might
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think that I am rooting for the Houston Astros, but I'm not because Houston bleh, I am from Dallas and,
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you know, Dallas and Houston, they kind of, they kind of have it out for each other. They kind of have a
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rivalry and my husband's family is all from Georgia. My husband's a Braves fan. So I would
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actually rather root for the Braves than Houston. I'm so sorry. It's not that I don't love you
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Houstonians, but I feel that it is against my deeply held beliefs to root for the Astros. And
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so I'm not going to do that. I'm going to root for the Braves. I actually want, I've been to,
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when the Rangers, when the Texas Rangers were in the, uh, were in, they were in the world series
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against St. Louis. I think I went to the world series in college with my dad and it was,
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it was pretty cool. All right. Okay. My thoughts on homesteading. I was just talking to a friend
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about this. I was just texting her about this a couple of nights ago and saying how I really want
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to be a homesteader and I'm not, I'm not, I don't have that natural ability. However, I started
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following some homesteaders and I really want to start trying. So I actually had this idea the other
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night that maybe I can get a group of women who live close to me. Maybe we can have different
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chapters around the country. I always have these ideas very few times do I follow through with it,
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but maybe someone else will, when they hear this idea, like have different chapters around the
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country of women who once a month, they take some kind of homesteading class or they go to a farm
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and they learn how to make jam or they go and they learn how to make cheese or milk a cow or
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so, or something like that. Something that can prep you. I don't want to, I don't, I don't like to say
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prepping because it has a negative kind of apocalyptic, crazy person connotation. Although I do follow
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people who are very prepared and I have no problem with that whatsoever, but sometimes other people
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think of, you know, people as crazy for preparing, which I don't think is crazy at all. I actually
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think it's very Proverbs 31 that we are supposed to prepare for hard times. And so also we can be
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generous to the people around us who haven't been as prepared. So I think it would be really fun to
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have a group of women who every month we go, we go learn from someone who has prepared and who can
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teach us different ways to prepare, to organize all of the supplies and the food that you've
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restored so many possibilities. Maybe that's already out there. So if you know of something
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that already exists like that, I want to join it because I want to be a homesteader. I told my
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husband, I said, you picked a bad apocalypse wife. Like I'm not an apocalypse wife. If, if, I mean,
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if things really hit the fan and things get, you know, zombie apocalypse, like the only thing I can do
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is host a podcast. So I'm going to be out there in our little tunnel, in our little, you know,
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cellar, whatever we have. And I'm just going to be like, let's just talk about the fact that we're
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getting attacked by China. That's the only, that's the only skill that I have. So I'm hoping to change
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that. And I'm hoping to be able to actually prepare in some way, just in case, just in case things
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happen. If, you know, the supply chain things, they keep on getting worse. People need to be
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prepared. And so, I don't know, just an idea I have. I love homesteading. I hope I answered some
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of your questions thoroughly. And I hope I answered some of your questions about Halloween as well.
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All right. That's all I've got time for today. We will be back here on Monday.