Ep 517 | A New Powerful Interest Group: Moms | Guest: Rep. Jim Jordan
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It's a great day to be alive. The Braves won the World Series, and it was a great night for anti-wokeism in general. But what does that have to do with race theory and the 1619 Project?
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. It is a great day to be alive. If you are
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a Republican, if you're a Democrat, or you live in Houston, you might be kind of sad.
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A few things happened last night. One, the Braves won the World Series. We talked about
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the irony of this, either yesterday or Monday. I can't remember back when the MLB All-Star Game
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was going on. The MLB decided to take the All-Star Game out of Atlanta, taking millions of dollars
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from Atlanta and the state of Georgia because of their voter integrity law that the MLB and
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Democrats were saying was Jim Crow-esque and was so racist, even though that has no basis in reality
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whatsoever. They moved it to Denver. Denver has voter ID laws and very strict restrictions
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on their voting process, but that didn't matter. It was a huge virtue signal. Of course, Texas passed
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a voter integrity bill as well, and Texas and Georgia were the two teams that were in the World Series,
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and Georgia won in Texas. It's just poetic justice. It's amazing. And actually, the guy who runs the MLB,
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when he was giving a speech last night after the game on the field, the stadium started booing.
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I mean, it was pretty incredible. So go Braves. As I've said, even though I'm originally from
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Dallas, Dallas and Houston, they've got that little bit of a rivalry. And so I was happy to cheer for
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the Braves. My husband is from Georgia. His whole family's from Georgia. And so we were rooting for
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the Braves last night. And it was a great night in general for anti-wokeism. And this is why, as we've
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been talking about, the Virginia gubernatorial election was last night. Terry McAuliffe, the
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Democrat, he has been governor once before. He was a one-term governor before Ralph Northam in Blue,
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Virginia. And he was seen as a shoo-in. I mean, polling really up until the last few months had
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shown that Terry McAuliffe was going to take this away. And even over the last couple of weeks,
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people have been saying, wow, Glenn Youngkin is running a much better campaign than people thought
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that he would. But Terry McAuliffe is still going to take this one. Virginia has been blue for a while
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now. No Republican has won a statewide race in Virginia since 2009. It was purple really before
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2009. It was known as a flip. But now it is blue. It's been very reliably blue for the past several
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years. But we have also seen that Virginia, specifically in Loudoun County and even in
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Fairfax County, which are very blue counties, these have been the hotbed of school board controversies
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where parents have woken up and have said, whoa, I don't like what my kids are learning in school.
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I don't like this racially divisive curriculum learning that white kids and white people are oppressors.
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They've got a privileged advantage over every black and brown kid. Black and brown kids learning that
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they've got this insurmountable disadvantage and they're never going to be able to make it in life
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the same way that their white counterparts are. These kids in a lot of places have been learning this
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1619 Project perspective of history, which is ahistorical. Nicole Hannah-Jones, the author of the
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1619 Project, will tell you she's not a historian. She's a journalist. She wanted to write a particular
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narrative of United States history that starts back in 1619. She made the claim that the United
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States was actually founded not just with slavery, but on slavery. That's an important distinction
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because she uses that hypothesis. Really, she treats it as a conclusion that she uses that to
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then say that every part of America, every system, every institution is characterized by white
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supremacy by the exploitation of black and brown people of racism. So especially every conservative
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institution or conservative idea, capitalism, private health care, she argues, is all founded
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on white supremacy that America wasn't started in 1776. It was actually started back in 1619. And that is a
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key difference between reality and Nicole Hannah-Jones' version of history in which white people always play the
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villain in America is bad. That is a key tenet of critical race theory, that America, that our
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founding documents, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, our Bill of Rights, the idea of
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inherent rights recognized by the government, free speech, due process, critical race theory holds all of
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those in derision. They actually believe that all of the founding principles upon which America was built
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are bad, that they have only been used as tools to uphold white power and white supremacy, and that we
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have to start from scratch. We need to get rid of the Constitution. We need to get rid of the Declaration
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of Independence. That's what critical race theory holds. It truly is radical. And parents might not be able
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to recite to you everything that Kimberly Crenshaw or Derrick Bell or Richard Delgado has said about
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critical race theory, but they noticed that this kind of ahistorical rendering of American history
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was being taught in their schools, that their kids were being divided by race, being divided by so-called
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privilege status, that they were being taught things like intersectionality, and they didn't like it.
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And what were they told by people like Terry McAuliffe, by people like Joy Reid, by Democrats and other
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liberals in the news, liberal activists? You don't know what critical race theory is. You can't even define
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critical race theory. Critical race theory isn't being taught in schools. These parents aren't blind.
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They're not stupid. And you don't have to be a conservative to be able to know that this kind
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of stuff is damaging to kids, whether you're white or black. So you don't have to call it critical race
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theory. If you don't want to call it critical race theory, if that makes the libs uncomfortable,
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that's fine. It's racially divisive, ahistorical curriculum. The fact of the matter is, there is good,
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there is bad, there is ugly in American history. Just as Frederick Douglass said, the Constitution is an
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anti-slavery document. The Declaration of Independence is an anti-slavery document, even though the authors
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of these documents were hypocritical in the sense that they were not extending the rights that they were
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talking about to black people and to women. These documents set up a foundation for equality, that every
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time America has gone back to those principles, we have made progress. And so we make progress towards
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equality and justice and liberty for all by getting closer to our founding ideals, not by abandoning
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them. And parents recognize that. They recognize that really there was a lopsided, progressive,
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left-wing ideological view of American history, an exclusively negative view of American history,
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and even white people that was being taught in these schools. And parents didn't like it. Parents of
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all races and all political backgrounds, that is why Glenn Youngkin won. And not just that, but also
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the sexually explicit material that was being taught in schools, the LGBTQ curriculum that was being pushed
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in schools without parents' knowledge. Parents like to be the first ones to tell their kids, to teach
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their kids about those kinds of sensitive topics. It's not the role of the schools to usurp parents'
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authority, their responsibility, their right to be able to shape the things that their child
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learns. And so when Terry McAuliffe came out at the end of October and said in a debate,
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hey, I don't believe that parents should have a say or should choose what their child learns in
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school, that was it for him. Like, that was the nail on the coffin. There are so many other things
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that played into this. Of course, there was the whole story that was broken by the Daily Wire,
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Luke Rosiak at the Daily Wire, that Loudoun County had actually covered up a sexual assault
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of a female student in the public school there, that they had completely mishandled
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that entire situation. And so that is why Glenn Youngkin pulled so far ahead of Terry McAuliffe when
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it came to education. Parents saw it. They saw it. They didn't like what they heard from Democrats.
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And Terry McAuliffe actually had the head of a large teachers union, Randy Weingarten,
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campaign for him the night before the election. I mean, she is a deeply, deeply unpopular figure.
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That's one thing that parents woke up to in the past year, the corruption of the teachers unions
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that kept kids in front of a computer screen when it was scientifically unnecessary. That has pushed a
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lot of these corrupt, divisive, confusing topics on kids. I mean, Terry McAuliffe just ran a bad campaign,
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okay? Now, there are big brain pundits out there like Joy Reid who like to believe that this is
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some kind of racial backlash. This is the take that I saw last night, that this is because white
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people are mad. White people just don't want, they don't want their kids to learn about race. Joy Reid
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actually said last night, we happened to turn it on. We just wanted to see what was happening on
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MSNBC as it looked like Glenn Youngkin was taking this election. We wanted to see what they were
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talking about. And we happened to turn it on right when Joy Reid said education. So education is really
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what won this election. She's right about that. But she says education, quote, is code for white
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parents don't like the idea about teaching about race. Holy Spirit, help me. Oh my God. You know what?
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I want to get mad about this. And by the way, I said, oh my gosh, but it kind of got cut off. But
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oh my gosh, I want to get mad about this. I do. Because gosh, she's so dense and Democrats are so
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dense. Like she's not the only person who had this take on social media last night that this is a white
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backlash. This is parents not, you know, it's parents not wanting kids to learn about history,
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about slavery, about real things. This is just, this is white women. Look at the suburban white women
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that are such racist. Hang on a second. Hang on. Hang on. Let's back up a little bit. The guy who
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is the current governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, remember his picture? He was either in blackface or
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a Klan robe. We never figured out which one it was. In an old yearbook from the 1980s, it came out that
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he was wearing a costume where he was a KKK member or he had blackface on, dressed up like a black person.
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That's the current Democratic governor of Virginia. Okay. And so these Democrats in Virginia want to
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say that people who voted for the Republican are the racist. And by the way, Glenn Youngkin is not
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the only one who upset this race last night. There was also a woman by the name of Winsome Sears.
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Winsome Sears is an amazing person. She's a Republican. She's a Marine Corps veteran. She's a
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Christian. Most importantly, she's an immigrant from Jamaica. And because the left cares about identity
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politics so much, I think it's worth saying that she is the first black woman to be elected to a
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statewide office in Virginia. And she's a Republican. Have you heard of her? I haven't even heard of her.
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And I know things about conservative politics. And I care about Christians who are standing up for
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their faith in the public sphere. She's certainly one of those people. Have you heard about her? Has
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she had a profile? And the New York Times is the Washington Post lauded her as someone who is
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breaking glass ceilings, who is, you know, pushing back against white hegemony, whatever ridiculous
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thing they say when, you know, leftist women or even, I mean, okay, get this guys. So Rachel Levine,
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Rachel Levine, the man who lived 54 years as a man and then suddenly declared he was a woman,
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was praised a couple years or a couple weeks ago for being the first female, according to the New
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York Times, to be a four-star admiral as the HHS assistant secretary, whatever he is. And he was
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written up as this, you know, this hero for women, that this dude who has been a dude for more than
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half a century, but grew his hair out and decided to wear lipstick. I, as a woman, am supposed to say,
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yes, thank you so much, Rachel Levine. You are just the pinnacle of femininity. How did you overcome
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this oppressive patriarchy and get to where you are? That's apparently what we're supposed to say.
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But Winsome Sears, the first black woman to win a statewide office in Virginia, we're not
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supposed to think about her at all. Somehow this election was about a white backlash when someone
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like her was elected. Come on now. Come on now. And we also had Jason Meares. He is a Republican.
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He defeated two-term Democrat incumbent for attorney general in Virginia. I don't know if I said,
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but Winsome Sears won lieutenant governor and then we had attorney general. The attorney general race
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was won by Jason Meares. He is also a Cuban American. And so, again, this is really about whiteness.
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But like I said, I want to be mad about that. I want to be mad about the crazy, insane things
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that Joy Reid says. There was another tweet by someone who said, you know, whiteness is undefeated.
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I'm trying to find it in my... Oh. Wajahat Ali says, whiteness remains undefeated. Let's wait and see
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who those white suburban voters went for tonight in Virginia. Any guesses? And so they really hate
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white female suburban voters that tend to, at least barely, there's barely a majority of white
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suburban female voters that vote Republican. A large portion of them do vote Democrat for reasons I
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don't understand. But more than half of white women tend to break for Republicans. And white women
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tended to, you know, vote for Glenn Youngkin. There was also this interesting, there was this interesting
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poll, this exit poll that showed that people whose number one priority was abortion, whether it's on
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the left or the right, the vast majority of them voted for Glenn Youngkin. So even people on the left
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to say that they care about so-called abortion rights, I mean, they didn't, they didn't perform
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for McAuliffe like Democrats probably expected that they were going to do. But anyway, so the reason why
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I'm okay with these crazy takes, these crazy takes, that this was about a white backlash, that this is
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just, you know, something to do with white supremacy and racism and all of that, and not about a reckoning
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for parents who care about their kids, which is exactly what it was, is because they're going
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to continue to lose. They will continue to lose. They will lose, lose, lose. They'll lose in the
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midterms. They'll lose the presidency if they continue to think that the only, the only reason
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why people vote Republican is because of racism and that parents don't really know what critical race
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theory is. If they keep on just going with that line, which by the way, I could take any of
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them. I could take any of them to task on critical race theory. I guarantee you I could divine it
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more accurately, could debate it with more rigor and more accuracy than anyone on MSNBC, than any
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liberal on Twitter could. The reality is it's projection. Most liberals have no idea what critical
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race theory is. They have no idea. Conservatives do because we have to, thanks to a lot of people,
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thanks to, I'll just say it, one, this show. We have talked about it so much over the past couple
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of years. We have informed a lot of people and a lot of parents on what critical race theory is,
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the dangers of critical race theory, especially in schools. Christopher Rufo, Corey DeAngelis has
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talked about this. James Lindsay has talked about this. There have been so many moms groups who have
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talked about this. People do know what critical race theory is. They do know racial division when
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they see it. They do know sexually explicit material in schools when they see it. They do know bad
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curriculum when they see it. And they've had enough of it. And if Democrats don't realize that
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that's what's behind them losing elections that they are supposed to win, then they're going to
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continue to lose. So that's fine. Go with the Joy Reid theory. Go with the Joy Reid theory. Go with this
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just being a white backlash, racial reckoning. And you parents, you double down. Just realize they're
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going to call you a domestic terrorist. They're going to call you a racist bigot. They're going to call you
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all these kinds of names to try to belittle your concerns, to hold you back, to condescend you,
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to make you feel like you don't know what you're talking about, that you don't have a right to stand
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up for your kids. And what do you do in the face of that? Do you say, oh, okay, I'm sorry. Let me
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nuance or caveat my position. Let me take a step back. You're right. The teachers unions are just
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the they're the experts over the education. Not not me, not the person who birthed this human being.
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No, it's definitely Randy Weingarten and the Democrats. No, that's not what you do. You don't back down.
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You double down. You double down. And we'll get to more of that in just one second. I'm very fired up
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about this. So just a couple more things on Virginia. So those three statewide races that I
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already listed, those were upsets. We were not necessarily predicting that that was going to
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happen. And as we said, mostly it was education. The Democratic agenda just is not popular to a
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lot of people. Also, there have been a lot of demographic changes in Virginia. And Democrats
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have hung their hat on this idea that if there are fewer white people, and if we can change the
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demography or the demographics of America, then we are going to have more Democratic voters. We're
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going to be able to solidify our power. You don't know that. Because guess what? That kind of
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condescending, belittling, honestly racist idea just isn't going to work because people of all
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backgrounds care about their kids' education, care about their safety. A lot of people of a lot of
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different backgrounds don't like the vaccine mandates. They don't like the teachers' unions.
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And so it's very understandable that people of all different ethnicities, of even all different
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political backgrounds, might be pushing back against the very far-left progressive agenda that we are
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seen represented by people like Terry McAuliffe. Now, Terry McAuliffe, he really brought out the
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big guns. As we already said, we thought that he was going to win. The polls started to shift,
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especially when he let the cat out of the bag a few weeks ago, said the quiet part out loud about
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parents not really having the authority to shape their kids' curriculum, even though he and his wife sent
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their kids to a very, very expensive private school in the D.C. area. So that really hurt him a lot.
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And he realized, oh, it's actually a possibility that I could lose this thing. And so he brought out
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Kamala Harris, because everyone knows Kamala Harris is so likable. He brought out Barack Obama. Now,
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Barack Obama made it worse because he said that all of these phony culture war issues
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are nothing more than a tactic to gin up outrage, that they're not real. So once again,
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they felt belittled. Once again, these parents who really care about what's going on in their child's
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life, in their kid's education, that they're being condescended, that they're being minimized,
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that they're being pushed to the sidelines. And Barack Obama just made that worse. Kamala Harris,
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she had, I can't even, like, what was she even saying in her speech? I don't know.
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So, and then, you know, they had Joe Biden coming out there and supporting, which is not good,
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because he has low poll numbers. Terry McAuliffe, I mean, the guy, well, he, first of all,
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I'm not trying to launch this ad hominem attack, but he looks like the mayor from The Grinch. Does
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anyone know what I'm talking about? I just think that it's, I think that's worth noting. And the
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reason why I think that's worth noting is not because I'm trying to be personally rude, but because I
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actually think that that matters when it comes to politics. Like, you know, you hear about the
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story of John F. Kennedy in a debate against Richard Nixon. Richard Nixon looked really old
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and sweaty, and John F. Kennedy looked really good and strong. Like, people actually care about that
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kind of thing. That was certainly true of Terry McAuliffe, who looks like Templeton from Charlotte's
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Web, and Glenn Youngkin, who looked, you know, revitalized, and he looked like he was strong,
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and he also ran on trusting parents. People like that. Like, he learned that you have to listen to
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the voters, and you have to listen to this group of parents who are so invigorated and mobilized
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right now on behalf of their children. It's a lie that he ran any kind of racial campaign, and that's
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how Republicans won, again, with the first Black woman elected to a statewide office. Yeah, this is
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really about white supremacy. Crazy. All right, some other election updates. As I'm recording this,
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so I'm recording this on Wednesday morning, the governor's race in New Jersey is still too close
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to call. Guys, I didn't even know there was a governor's race in New Jersey. I didn't even know
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that was happening. People haven't been talking about it because Phil Murphy, the Democrat incumbent,
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was such a shoo-in. Everyone just knew, yeah, he's gonna win. New Jersey is just like that.
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It's such a deep blue state. They went for Joe Biden by, you know, a double-digit margin
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in the election. Of course, they're just going to reelect their Democratic governor. No one has been
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talking about the governor's race in New Jersey. And yet, as I am talking about this right now,
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it is too close to call. So Jack Ciattarelli, Ciattarelli, that's what I think when I see that
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name, it's very Italian. I don't know how to pronounce it. Hopefully, I got it correct.
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I mean, he is neck and neck with Phil Murphy, who, of course, I think, from my conservative
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perspective, has been a terrible governor, has locked down his state really to no avail as far
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as COVID numbers go. And they're saying it's too close to call right now. Britt Hume said this on
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Twitter, even if Murphy manages to eke out a win in New Jersey, that race may be seen as an even
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bigger shock than Virginia. Governor Biden won New Jersey, or says President Biden, won New Jersey
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by 16. And incumbent Dem Murphy is in a virtual tie. Big reversal. So even if Phil Murphy wins,
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it is a big deal that it's this close to call in New Jersey. In New Jersey! And then some other
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places that are just stunning. This is tweeted by Randy Marshall on Twitter. I can't put into words
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the stunning turn of politics happening on Long Island tonight. Republicans are leading in all major
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races. County executive, district attorney, county clerk, county comptroller. And he lists different
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districts where Republicans are leading. I don't know, as I am saying this, the results of those
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elections. But again, the fact that it's even close, that it has even been close, that's a really big
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deal in places that are so reliably blue. In Texas, the South Lake Carroll ISD Board of Trustees, Andrew
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Yeager won. He has been an anti-critical race theory candidate. He won. NBC News, of course, is very upset
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about this. They say diversity plan opponents win control of school board in South Lake, Texas. The
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election made South Lake one of the first places in the country where candidates running on an
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anti-critical race theory platform have taken a school board majority. Voters in the affluent suburb
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northwest of Dallas delivered a landslide victory Tuesday to Andrew Yeager, who campaigned against
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the district's plan for new diversity training programs and changes to the curriculum. So they like to
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say diversity training programs as if it's this innocuous thing to have kids care about other
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cultures and to accept people of different races. That is not what diversity training programs are.
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They are splitting people apart by race, by perceived oppressed classes, talking about white hegemony,
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white privilege, even things like toxic masculinity and things like that. So these are not these
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innocuous plans that are put together for the benefit in the cohesion of communities. They tear apart
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communities. They hurt children. And so, yes, there are going to be school board candidates who are
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running on opposing those plans and are going to win. They did in South Lake, Texas. Also, in Minneapolis,
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Minnesota, you'll recall, that's where the George Floyd incident happened. 57 to 43, no, voted no. So 57%
00:25:18.400
voted no on defunding the police to create a new so-called public safety agency. So the fact that it
00:25:26.900
was 43% that actually wanted to take funding away from the Minneapolis Police Department and create
00:25:31.840
this new so-called public safety agency is a little troubling. But the fact that a pretty solid majority,
00:25:37.240
57% said no, again, where the kind of birthplace of this revolution against the police, at least for
00:25:45.300
the last couple of years, is in Minneapolis, the fact that they said no to defunding the police,
00:25:52.660
I mean, that should probably tell us something, not just that it's unpopular, but that it doesn't work
00:25:56.480
because Minneapolis has seen such an uptick in murder over the past year and a half, even at the
00:26:02.520
site where they set up basically this, you know, no police zone, this sanctuary zone for George
00:26:08.340
Floyd in Minneapolis, they saw a murder in or murders in that specific spot. People don't like
00:26:13.720
anarchy. Like people don't like not to be safe. People like security. People like police. Black and
00:26:21.240
brown Americans in the United States like the police. There was a Gallup poll. I believe it was Gallup.
00:26:26.260
No, I think it was YouGov that we talked about probably a year ago now that 80% of black Americans
00:26:32.280
want the same number of police in their area or an increased number of police in their area. So
00:26:38.340
really, it's just a bunch of mostly white ideologues that are pushing this kind of idea of defunding
00:26:44.180
the police. And most people don't want it, not even in very liberal Minneapolis. So I think that's
00:26:50.620
probably another lesson that Democrats need to take home rather than just saying this is about white
00:26:56.000
grievance politics. Like I would say, wake up. But again, maybe I don't want you to. Maybe I want you
00:27:01.680
to continue thinking that this is just about white people being mad about learning about racism.
00:27:07.440
You'll continue to lose. Hey, maybe if you keep pushing that will turn California red one day.
00:27:14.620
So I asked on Twitter for you guys to tell me some conservative wins on school or with school board
00:27:23.380
elections across the country. And I got a lot of I got a lot of good ones. Newtown, Connecticut,
00:27:28.640
Republicans are now the majority of the Board of Education. Republicans swept every town position
00:27:33.520
except for the independent first selectmen. There is also in Denver, Douglas County in Colorado,
00:27:41.120
conservative candidates take the lead as of last night. So they won actually in this election.
00:27:48.440
They took the lead in Douglas County in Colorado. Also in Iowa, three conservative candidates in the
00:27:56.400
Ankeny. I don't know how to pronounce that in Iowa in that school board race have won. And so there were
00:28:06.600
a lot of conservative wins for school board elections last night. And that's very exciting. It just means
00:28:15.380
that it is it's time to speak up and it's worth speaking up like you never know. You never know
00:28:21.540
the change that you can make. And so just ignore the people saying that this is just about racial
00:28:29.760
politics. Ignore the people that are trying to belittle your concerns. Ignore also the people
00:28:35.420
that say that our country is over, that conservatives have no voice. But I also hope that Republicans pay
00:28:43.120
attention. Like as much as conservatives in general need to wake up that their voice matters,
00:28:48.520
as much as Democrats need to wake up that, hey, people don't like your agenda. The Republicans
00:28:52.860
in power really need to wake up, too. They need to realize that the people with the power,
00:28:59.060
the people who want things done are not big corporations. Like let's divorce from big business
00:29:08.240
as Republicans. Let's stop caring quite as much about just securing corporate tax breaks. And let's
00:29:16.440
start paying attention to the constituents that matter. Let's start paying attention to the people
00:29:21.120
with influence. Start paying attention to the moms and dads. Like they are mobilizing. And really what's
00:29:27.280
happening is that people are so disillusioned. People are so disappointed with both parties in
00:29:33.260
Washington that grassroots groups are taking matters into their own hands. They're pushing back against
00:29:39.180
things like mandates. They're pushing back against bad curriculum. They're running for office. And they are
00:29:45.080
trying to make the change that they want to see, that they feel like the people that represent them
00:29:49.900
in the political sphere are not making. Republicans take note. Realize that the people who are voting
00:29:58.560
for you want you to wield the power that you have. OK, we're done with the we're done with the GOP that
00:30:06.420
only cares about lower taxes, that only cares. I'm not saying that doesn't matter. It does.
00:30:11.600
That only cares about things like welfare reform. I'm not saying that doesn't matter because it
00:30:16.240
absolutely does. But people care about the culture wars. I saw someone say on Twitter,
00:30:20.980
the culture war is the big tent for conservatives. Like parents care about education. And a lot of
00:30:28.080
people care about abortion and preserving life. People care about the things that are affecting our
00:30:34.080
children. People care about the working class and the issues that are disproportionately affecting them,
00:30:43.100
like the rise in prices due to inflation. They care about the vaccine mandates. And Republican voters
00:30:50.120
want you to do something about them. They want you to pass laws that actually ban these kinds of vaccine
00:30:56.880
mandates and requirements. They want you to pass laws that ban mask mandates. They want you to pass laws that
00:31:02.900
ensure that the curriculum that kids are learning in school is actually historic and not racially divisive and
00:31:08.600
sexually explicit. They want you to do something about it. They don't just want you to talk about it. So let last
00:31:14.800
night be a lesson for everyone. One, that your voice matters, conservatives to the Democrats. Your far left
00:31:21.440
agenda just isn't attractive or appealing. But I don't really care if you figured that out or not. And Republicans, that
00:31:26.500
people want you to step up, that people are mobilized like they've never been before, that people
00:31:31.800
care. I hope it's not too little too late. But I think we should be encouraged. I think we should be
00:31:37.280
inspired by what we're seeing, that this is a lot of good news. It's a lot of good news. And don't worry
00:31:44.080
about being misunderstood. Don't worry about being demonized. That's going to happen. They're just trying
00:31:49.100
to silence and bully you. Who cares? Who cares about the bullies? You keep fighting for what is good
00:31:54.600
and right and true. Politics matter. Because policy matters. Because people matter. These things
00:32:02.740
matter. These things matter. This is a way to love your neighbor. Continue to speak up. Continue to
00:32:08.140
push back. These things matter. Realize that these culture war issues actually affect people and they're
00:32:15.020
winning issues for a lot of people. So good job to everyone who ran a campaign, every conservative
00:32:20.860
that decided that you were going to come off the sidelines and you were going to do something
00:32:24.500
about the things that you care about. You know, not every conservative won their school board race.
00:32:29.140
Not every conservative won the races that we wanted them to race or wanted them to win. But
00:32:35.180
your effort matters. You raised awareness about issues that absolutely matter. Congratulations to
00:32:43.000
Winsome Sears. Congratulations to Glenn Youngkin. Congratulations to Jason Meares. Congratulations
00:32:49.560
to all of the people who ran and won. And congratulations to the people that ran a well-fought
00:32:54.640
race. And you represented the concerns of people who have felt like they haven't had representation in
00:33:01.720
a long time. All of that absolutely matters. All right. There's so much more that I could say about
00:33:08.940
this, but we've got to go to our guest. We've got a guest for today. And this is Congressman Jim Jordan
00:33:15.240
from Ohio. He's going to tell us his reaction to some of this. He's going to let us know what's going
00:33:19.860
on with this crazy infrastructure bill in Washington. It's been really hard to follow. And he's also going
00:33:25.700
to tell us about a new book that he has out with a lot of juicy details about how the sausage is made
00:33:30.720
in Washington. And I'm really excited for you to hear this conversation. So without further ado,
00:33:36.300
here is Congressman Jim Jordan. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. First,
00:33:43.640
I want to get your reaction to last night's election results, not just in Virginia, but
00:33:48.900
elsewhere. As we're recording this, we don't know everything about New Jersey, for example.
00:33:54.620
But what do you make of that? It's an upset for a lot of people in the Democratic Party, for sure.
00:34:00.180
I think the first takeaway is moms won big government zero. I mean, this was a win for parents.
00:34:06.300
The left can say what they want. But when Terry McAuliffe made the comment that parents shouldn't
00:34:11.240
be telling schools what to teach their kids, I think that just that just hit a nerve. And then
00:34:16.080
you couple that with the action that the Justice Department took as a result of the letter written
00:34:22.100
by the National School Board's Association to President Biden asking for the FBI to get involved
00:34:26.880
in local school board matters. And then the Justice Department does just that five days after the
00:34:30.740
letter, in essence, treating parents as domestic terrorists because they got the National Security
00:34:35.760
Division at the Justice Department involved. And then, of course, we know that the end of that was
00:34:40.160
the School Board Association apologized the day after the hearing in the Judiciary Committee where
00:34:45.000
we Republicans went after the attorney general. I think all that just was sort of the final straw for so
00:34:50.640
many people who are just fed up with all the crazy things they've seen from the Biden administration.
00:34:55.280
And they said, enough is enough. And, you know, the old the old line is we deal with lobbyists in
00:35:01.040
this business, but no high paid lobbyists will ever beat a mom on a mission. And these these parents
00:35:06.180
were tired of government saying the things they were saying and and and going after parents for
00:35:12.720
simply showing up at a school board meeting saying, don't teach this racist hate America curricula
00:35:16.960
curriculum to our to our children. And so, again, I think it's a win for families.
00:35:21.280
Yeah, definitely. And speaking of Merrick Merrick Garland, are you surprised by how politicized he
00:35:28.100
is this early on? I mean, we were told that he would be a pretty moderate pick that a lot of
00:35:33.520
Republicans could support. That really hasn't turned out. Not at all. Great, great question,
00:35:38.620
because you're exactly right. The Justice Department is so political. So when when Georgia put in the
00:35:44.100
photo ID and, you know, ID for for voting and pass that law a few months later, the Justice
00:35:50.120
Department sued after Biden criticized Georgia. Justice Department goes in there and sues.
00:35:54.500
Then you have the Texas Texas passed the pro-life law they did. The President Biden criticizes that
00:35:59.920
eight days later, the Justice Department, the Garland Justice Department sues. And then,
00:36:04.520
of course, we had what we just described, which was a left wing political organization writes a letter
00:36:09.560
saying go after parents at school board meetings. And five days after that, the Justice Department
00:36:14.040
does just that. So, yeah, they're they're totally political. And what we've called on Merrick Garland
00:36:20.980
to do is rescind that memo, memo, rescind that memo that you put out that, in essence, treats
00:36:26.920
treats parents as domestic terrorists. Let's hope he does it. We're going to keep the pressure up on
00:36:31.960
him until until until he does. You know, it was really odd watching him during the hearing. It was
00:36:36.580
almost like or at least he wanted to act like he didn't really know what the substance of the memo
00:36:42.180
said. He almost wanted to act like he was detached from the process that led to that memo and that he
00:36:47.080
didn't really know what was going on. Is he just playing dumb? Did he have obviously more of a hand
00:36:52.440
in this than he is trying to let on? Well, the short answer is I don't know, but I'm convinced
00:36:58.780
he didn't know about the press release. So the day he issues the memorandum is the accompanying press
00:37:03.700
release, which talks about the National Security Division. So I don't think even knew about that, which
00:37:08.100
was kind of scary because you got a press release getting the National Security Division involved in
00:37:13.420
a task force that's designed to set up this open line of dedicated threat, a dedicated line of threat
00:37:20.060
reporting, a snitch line on parents. You do all that and you don't know about that. That's that's kind
00:37:25.920
of alarming in and of itself. And then, of course, we had a story yesterday where it looked like
00:37:30.300
federal people were at a school board meeting in in Virginia. I don't I don't know how accurate the
00:37:35.320
story is. But if that's the case, then Merrick Garland wasn't honest with us because I asked
00:37:39.500
him a question during the hearing two weeks ago. Will FBI agents be showing up at school board
00:37:43.780
meetings? He said, no, they won't. Well, OK, but it looks like at least there's a story yesterday
00:37:48.560
that says there were federal agents at a school board meeting. Now, again, I don't know the validity
00:37:52.040
of that, but there's there's there's been that allegation. So all that makes you wonder just how
00:37:57.080
involved he is with this actual thing. But I do know that we sent a letter to all the U.S.
00:38:03.440
attorneys in all the 94 U.S. attorney districts asking what they have done in response to the
00:38:08.860
memorandum asking them to begin to set up this task force in each of those judicial districts
00:38:14.200
around the country. We're hoping to get some answers from them here real soon. And the DOJ is
00:38:19.280
going after Texas. That's what the Supreme Court is hearing right now because of their new abortion
00:38:24.400
law. Democrats in the House are holding a hearing on that tomorrow, correct? Yeah. Yeah. We got a hearing
00:38:30.500
tomorrow where we'll you know, we'll be we'll be highlighting just the this the sacredness,
00:38:35.560
the sanctity of human life, the preciousness of human life. There's two two cases the Supreme
00:38:41.320
Court heard this week regarding the Texas law. There's a Mississippi case that's coming in front
00:38:46.440
of the court later this term. So let's hope we get the right decisions there, decisions that will
00:38:51.380
protect life and allow more unborn children to experience the the gift of life that our Constitution
00:38:57.240
and our Declaration, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness that that they're they're supposed to
00:39:01.120
protect. So we'll see how all that plays out. The other big issue on the life concern is the Democrats
00:39:07.420
are you know, they want to get rid of the Hyde Amendment, which which is this this longstanding
00:39:12.180
policy we've had where American tax money will not be used to take the life of an unborn child.
00:39:18.240
And the fact that they're trying to get rid of that is is wrong as well. So, yeah, with some
00:39:22.320
important issues on the life issue happening in the Congress, the so-called build back better bill.
00:39:28.860
People know that negotiations have been going on, but I think a lot of people have kind of removed
00:39:33.220
themselves from knowing about the process because it seems really convoluted. It's hard to keep up
00:39:38.940
with what's going on. What's the state of all that right now in Washington? Four times Speaker Pelosi
00:39:45.120
has said that she was going to have a vote on one or both of those those two bills that are part of
00:39:50.080
this this big spending package. And she's over four. And twice now she is someone the president
00:39:55.680
of the United States to Capitol Hill to close the deal. And he's over two. So they're over six.
00:40:01.020
Let's hope it stays that way, because these these two pieces of legislation are bad for the country.
00:40:05.760
I mean, it's not just the ridiculous level of spending. I said to a group the other day,
00:40:09.880
the Democrats economic plan seems to be locked down the economy, spend like crazy, pay people not to
00:40:15.100
work. And and then for everyone who has been working, we're going to raise your taxes. I mean,
00:40:19.200
such a deal. So it's not just a crazy spending in this package, but it's it's the policy. It's all
00:40:24.980
the left wing stuff that's going to drive up the cost of energy even more than it already is.
00:40:29.160
It's all the tax increases in here that are going to hurt families. So let's hope that they can't get
00:40:35.420
the votes and nothing passes. That would be the best thing for for families and for the country.
00:40:40.740
One thing that people ask me about a lot that we haven't really dedicated a whole lot of time to on
00:40:45.040
this show is parental leave. That's something that's obviously popular with Democrats. But I
00:40:50.640
think there are some conservatives who are curious about it. Would it be something that
00:40:54.820
conservatives should get behind? Obviously, we're pro family, pro life. But do we really want
00:41:00.020
something else that's sponsored by the government? What's your take on that?
00:41:04.020
I think the best thing we do to help families, let them keep more of their money,
00:41:06.740
don't raise their taxes. The best thing we can do for for families is let people
00:41:10.360
go back to work and not have these mandates from the government that make it tough to work.
00:41:14.960
The best thing we can do for families is not have a vaccine mandate. If you want to get the vaccine,
00:41:18.720
God bless you, do it. If you don't and you've had the had the had COVID, had the virus, you got
00:41:23.560
natural immunity. Why in the world should you have to get the vaccine? So there's all kinds of things
00:41:26.740
we can do for families that I think are good, most of which is allow our economy to grow and flourish
00:41:32.400
like it was under President Trump. I know, by the way, if you want to really help families,
00:41:36.940
don't drive up the cost of gasoline so that it costs more for for for moms and dads to get back
00:41:42.080
and forth to work to take their kids to school and all the things they have to do. So there are
00:41:45.460
lots of things we could do to help families. Right now, what I hear from from employers and small
00:41:51.500
business owners all across our district, and frankly, all across the country is they can't find
00:41:55.500
people to work. Right. And I tell them, you know, when you pay people not to work, you shouldn't be
00:41:59.260
surprised when you can't find workers. That's what government does. So let's focus on doing the things
00:42:03.960
that we know will help our economy grow. And that will help families like again, like we had under
00:42:09.020
under the leadership of President Trump. Yep. People are feeling progressive policies in their
00:42:13.820
pocketbook right now. And that matters. I read that this Thanksgiving is going to be the most
00:42:19.400
expensive Thanksgiving in history, not just the cost of Turkey is up, but all of the food that we
00:42:27.940
typically eat on Thanksgiving. So things are being felt even by people who may be voted for Joe Biden
00:42:33.620
or were a fan of progressive policies. They're seeing the repercussions of that. And I think
00:42:37.860
that's one of the reasons why Biden's poll numbers are so low. So in light of that, in light of those
00:42:43.400
polling numbers, in light of what happened last night, if we do have the red wave next year that
00:42:48.860
people are thinking that we're going to have, what are Republicans going to do with the power that they
00:42:55.140
may very well gain back next year? Well, you know, Joe Biden will still be in the White House. But if we
00:43:01.880
win back the House, we can at least we can at least hopefully hold them to a stalemate so they
00:43:06.180
can't keep making things worse. I mean, right now, I think the the polling suggests that 71% of the
00:43:11.900
country thinks thinks that our nation is on the wrong track. I think the real question is, who are
00:43:17.540
the 29% who think it's on the right track, for goodness sake? Yeah, who are the 29% who thinking
00:43:22.100
that that rapid inflation is good? Who are the 29% who like the fact that gas is at 350, 360
00:43:27.800
dollar, 360 a gallon? Who are the 29% who who see that that, you know, crime is up in every major
00:43:35.440
urban area in this country? Who are these who are these folks? So I think that that's that's what
00:43:40.180
we got to put a stop to is the crazy policies, the crazy spending that we've seen from this
00:43:45.000
administration, and hopefully force them to deal with actually building the wall and securing our
00:43:50.400
border and stop stopping the the reckless spending that's driving up the cost of goods and services.
00:43:56.140
And as you said, driving up the cost of, of, you know, the food, we're going to have at
00:43:59.640
Thanksgiving. So that's what we can do. And then frankly, if we're in control, we can also do the
00:44:04.380
investigations that need to be done. There are I think the fact that the Internal Revenue Service,
00:44:12.820
thousands of Americans tax returns were made public is scary. And we need to find out how and how did that
00:44:21.000
happen. We need to find out other important issues like the Hunter Biden story that still I don't
00:44:27.460
think has ever been fully, fully investigated. So there are lots of things I think we can do on
00:44:31.240
the investigative side that are important for the American people as well. I want to talk about your
00:44:35.760
book, and I'm really excited about it. I love the title of your book. It's Do What You Said You Would
00:44:41.800
Do. Why did you write this book? Well, I said, you know, I think oftentimes we, we make this job way
00:44:50.540
too complicated. What did you tell the folks you were going to do when you ran for office? If they,
00:44:55.420
if they elect you, go do what you said, go do what they elected you to do. And unfortunately,
00:45:00.760
I think all too often in this town, there are a million reasons why you can't do what you said you
00:45:04.720
were going to do. And instead, we should just focus on doing what you were elected to do by the,
00:45:09.820
by the folks back home in your district. So we talk about those issues. We talk about how the
00:45:14.180
House Freedom Caucus was, was formed. We talk about when we decided to force John Boehner out as
00:45:19.240
speaker. And then I get into a lot of the investigations. I've had the fortune of, because
00:45:24.000
of the committee assignments I have, I think it was the IRS investigation when they targeted,
00:45:28.300
you know, your viewers and your listeners and conservatives around the country. I was on the Benghazi
00:45:33.400
Select Committee. And then we spent a lot of time on the impeachment when Adam Schiff had us down in
00:45:37.900
the bunker, the basement of the Capitol. So I think your, your viewers and listeners will enjoy the
00:45:45.240
read. We spent a lot of time about that sort of behind the scenes involvement with President Trump,
00:45:50.140
who, who probably more than any president we've had, did what he said he would do. And so we talk
00:45:57.080
a lot about that as well. I think it's available, you can get it now at Amazon pre-order or Barnes & Noble
00:46:02.840
and comes out in a couple of weeks. So again, I think you're, I think folks will enjoy it.
00:46:07.380
Yeah. And before I, before I let you go, I do think it's interesting that you dedicated a whole
00:46:12.700
section of your book to former Speaker of the House, John Boehner. Not a lot of people might even,
00:46:18.300
while listening, they might not even know really who he is. Honestly, there's a lot of people who just
00:46:23.000
started paying attention to politics who listened to and watched my show just in the past couple of
00:46:27.000
years. They don't know the process that went on behind the scenes. Can you tell us why you
00:46:32.300
dedicated a whole segment of your book to that? Well, that was, that was when the Freedom Caucus
00:46:37.380
sort of started in, in 2015. And one of the first things we did was we got frustrated with the fact
00:46:43.840
that Republicans had been elected to, uh, given the majority in the House and then given the majority
00:46:48.340
in the Senate. And it didn't seem like we were actually fighting for the folks back home and doing
00:46:53.260
what we said we would do. And that frustration, uh, led to us deciding we needed to make a change and
00:46:58.820
who, who led our conference and who led the House. Um, and we, I, I, I, the introduction is,
00:47:03.780
I start off in the introduction about the day that, uh, my, one of my best friends, Mark Meadows,
00:47:08.180
filed the motion to vacate the chair, which is in essence, a move to, to change speaker, uh, change
00:47:13.640
the speaker. And, um, I, I, I kind of, that's the introduction. Then we get into that issue and a
00:47:18.080
host of others. When, when the president got COVID, we talk about that. Um, talk about when,
00:47:23.100
when my colleagues, um, stormed the bunker in the basement of the Capitol, we were in there for
00:47:29.060
depositions and then they stormed during the impeachment process. And so, uh, again, I think,
00:47:34.480
I think your, uh, your, your, your, your viewers and listeners will, will, will enjoy the read.
00:47:39.080
Yeah. We so often don't get to know what really goes on behind the scenes. We see such a small
00:47:43.120
snippet of what you guys do. And so this will be a very interesting look into all of that. So thank you
00:47:48.720
so much for writing it. Thank you for taking the time to, um, to talk to us today. I really
00:47:53.540
appreciate it. Thanks, Allie. Thanks for all you do. All right. I've got one more thing for you
00:48:01.560
today and I've been meaning to play this and gosh, we've just been running out of time,
00:48:05.380
but speaking of pushing back and standing up for the things that you believe in and people's voices
00:48:12.720
actually making a difference and representing the concerns and the causes that people,
00:48:18.720
really care about. I went to a rally, um, at Southwest airlines headquarters and I wanted
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to talk to the protesters about why are you protesting against this vaccine mandate? I
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talked to so many different kinds of people that have been pilots and have been, uh, flight
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attendants for decades who are quitting. They're facing the loss of a job possibly, uh, because they
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don't want to get this shot. There are some, you know, there are some apparently stipulations
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at Southwest now because of all of the pushback. Uh, but I just wanted to hear them because I feel
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like these people are so misrepresented and I wanted to give them a voice and just to hear from
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them firsthand. Why are you pushing back against these vaccine mandates? Um, and I just love when
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people enter the arena and stand up for the things that they care about. So let me play you that.
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And, uh, then I will see you back here tomorrow. We'll talk about COVID stuff.
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Hey guys, Ali Stuckey here. I am in Dallas, Texas in front of the Southwest airlines headquarters.
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There are people lined up all across this road protesting Joe Biden's vaccine mandate for major
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corporations. So I am here to talk to a few of them to ask them why they're here.
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Tell me how long you have been working for Southwest airlines, almost 20 years, 21 years. It'll be four
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years in March. I'm a American airlines captain, 40 years of flying, 30 years at the airline, 17,000
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hours of flying. Why are you out here protesting? Medical freedom. I love my company. I love my job.
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Um, I just think that I deserve a choice. We are here to support medical freedom and people's right
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to choose to have the COVID vaccine. Okay. And you come all the way from California.
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California. Why did you fly all the way here? Because it's heartbreaking what's happening to
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the employees of this company. I'm here supporting my dad, who's a pilot for Southwest airlines. So
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he's been there for 21 years and it's just insane to me that he would just be fired, not because he was a
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bad pilot or he did anything wrong, but because he's not going to get a vaccine. I'm here because
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my deeply held religious beliefs prevent me from knowingly putting anything in my body that was
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developed or produced using aborted fetal stem cell lines. I and many other pilots, mechanics,
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flight attendants, uh, gate agents, rampers, you name it, we're all standing for freedom. We don't want any
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mandates of any kind. A lot of us have had COVID. Um, we have our tests, you know, showing that we've
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had it and we have antibodies. This just was very clear for our family that this is something that we
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wanted to lean in. We felt like God was leading us. And so, um, we decided to say no to the vaccine
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and no to the mandate. Are you surprised that Southwest is complying with this? Um, I wish I
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could say that I was surprised, but not right now. We built our brand on having the freedom to fly.
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You're now free to move about the country. And not only are we being our freedoms being infringed on,
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but the next thing is going to be the vaccine mandate for passengers. And how many people will
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that impact not just us, but in the US and around the world? Do you have hope that things are going
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to change that this pushback is going to be effective? Yes, I do. Yes. Yeah, I hope he sees
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it and knows what he's doing to his employees. This used to be the company of love. Where is it now?
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I still have hope for our country and, um, to, to move in the right direction and turn from the way we've
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been going. And so if you don't stand up now, I don't know if we'll get another chance to stand up.
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And so it's just so clear in our convictions that this is the time to push back and say no.
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All right, guys, that's it for us. We've just spoken to Americans, many of them employees of
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Southwest Airlines who are protesting this vaccine mandate. They are standing up for their freedoms.
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They are standing up for their freedoms. Thanks for watching. It's Ali Stuckey from Dallas, Texas.