Ep 518 ｜ Just One Jab to Keep Your Job？ Think Again ｜ Guest： Steve Deace
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Summary
Steve Dacey joins me to talk about the latest in the controversy surrounding the polio vaccine and how it impacts public health and public safety. He is a world-renowned expert in the field of infectious disease epidemiology and epidemiology, and has spent years looking at the data and science behind it. He has been a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, and the Los Angeles Times, and is one of the most respected scientists in the world on this topic.
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. We are almost through this week. Today we
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are finally talking about COVID and man, we are not even going to be able to talk about
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everything I want to talk about in regards to Dr. Fauci and his testimony and his, the
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admission that, you know, gain of function research was happening and being funded by
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the NIH and all that stuff. We're not even going to be able to talk about everything that I want to.
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We're going to talk a little bit about the vaccines now being made available to children
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ages five through 11, even the mandates for this age group coming down the pipeline
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in some places across the country. We're going to talk to Steve Dace. I think he's one of the best
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people on this subject, on a lot of subjects, but in particular on this one, because he looks at the
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he studies the data every day and he's drawing, I think, very smart conclusions about all of this.
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And he just really makes us think. And he also puts it in a spiritual perspective. He looks at
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this from a biblical worldview, which I think is really important. Now I've already recorded that
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interview as I am doing this introduction. And so know that there might not, there might not be,
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or there might be things that are said in the interview that you don't particularly agree with,
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but I encourage you to chew on it. There's again, probably no one that has looked at the data
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and looked at the science more closely or few people who have looked at the data and science
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more closely than Steve Dace. And so he draws, he draws a lot of interesting conclusions that I at least
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think are worth your time considering. If you want to follow all of the mitigation measures that are
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passed down by the CDC, then you can absolutely do this. We know this virus is real. We know it can
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be serious for a lot of people. We know that it's not a one size fits all the different therapeutics
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that you want to take, the different measures that you think are effective for you and your family.
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I am absolutely for choice. I am against medical tyranny. I am for informed consent. And I am against a lot of
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the totalitarian measures that we are seeing come down on people ruining their lives, taking away
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their livelihoods based on data that just is not there. And so that's my biggest concern in all of
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this. And Steve Dace, as always, is going to very wisely help us dig through all of this information.
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And we'll have to do a follow up with even more stuff that I want to talk about on all of this next
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week. But for now, without further ado, here is Steve Dace. Steve, thank you so much for joining
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us again. Okay, start us off just by saying what's the latest on COVID, on the vaccine, on Fauci. We
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haven't covered it in a while on the show. So just kind of set us up for what's been going on.
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The data is totally random. There is no correlation between vaccination rates and lower
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transmission rates. There is no such correlation, frankly, anywhere in the world. The only correlation
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we can seemingly find to rises and falls of case rates applies to seasonality. The vaccines, how
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honest can I be? Because it's not my show. It's yours. Okay. So how honest, how honest,
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Ali, can I be? That's my question to you before I continue my answer.
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Be as honest as you can without getting us immediately kicked off YouTube. Maybe it's
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inevitable. Maybe it's inevitable, but try to hedge a little bit.
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Okay. All right. Then I will use this euphemism. The vaccines are a substandard product. It is
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not what people believed they were getting themselves involved in. And it's in marketing, it would be
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otherwise called some form of a bait and switch. You have an outstanding piece over at Newsweek
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today written by scientists from Stanford and Harvard, you know, a couple pretty, I guess,
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you know, podunk universities that go through in a fact-filled piece and just completely deconstruct
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Anthony Fauci and his failures. Similar to what I have done on our show, but they've got a lot more
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scientific credentials than I do, obviously. So those would be sort of the, and we're about to
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inject children with an experimental substance that even during its televised hearings, the FDA
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literally said, we won't know how safe it is for kids until we put it in them.
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And if you were to go back, and I did this here on Blaze TV yesterday in our overtime, if your audience,
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if they're subscribers, if they want to go find it, is I went back and looked at the depth of vaccine
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trials for the polio vaccine, which was far more deadly than COVID and far deadlier to children,
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obviously. But the depths of proof that they had to go to, go through for the COVID, for the polio
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vaccine before injecting it into the children and the general public compared to COVID. And it's like
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another dimension. So those are sort of the meta topics of where things stand right now.
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So the FDA, the CDC approved it for kids ages five to 11. I can't, I personally can't imagine
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why a parent would make that decision. But of course, I believe the parents should be free to
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do what they think is best for their kid. But in somewhere like San Francisco, they're actually
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going to require proof of vaccination for these kids to enter into public spaces. I'm guessing the
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people of San Francisco want this. That's something that I've been surprised by disappointed by
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is that not everyone feels the way that you and I do. There are people who love these draconian
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restrictions. You can't wait to give this vaccine to their newborn who love the double mask mandates
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for their toddlers. They love it. How do you think something like this, though, is going to go over
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with most Americans? If other states try this, you know, saying that kids can't enter into these
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spaces without proof of vaccination. How's that going to go over?
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I think you just look at what's going on in the New Jersey election as we speak, where you had
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the video from Project Veritas that emerged just a couple of days ago with a senior strategist for
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Governor Murphy admitting on camera that, yeah, he's going to impose all kinds of vaccine mandates,
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but he just has to wait until after the election because they're not popular. And I guess by some
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counts, as you and I are recording this, he has pulled ahead, I mean, very weakly in a state that
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was on nobody's radar. You've got the state Senate leader for Democrats there. He just lost his race
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to a guy that spent $200. Wow. $200. That's it. The Democrat lost to a Republican who spent $200.
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Yes. Yes. So these things, you know, you've had Trafalgar Group polling has shown from the very
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beginning that vaccine mandates for adults were very unpopular. And, you know, Trafalgar Group,
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if your audience is into polling and doesn't know who to trust, I will tell you, and now 2016,
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2018, 2020, this is now 2021. This is the fourth election cycle we've had that they have by far been
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the most accurate. You know, I keep track and chart things like this. They had Yunkin in their final
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poll winning by two and a half points. It looks like he's going to win by 2.1. I mean, that's
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pretty close to nailing it. Okay. So Trafalgar Group had early on that vaccine mandates for adults
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were way underwater. And now you've got mainstream media polling as of yesterday showing the same
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thing that is trending that direction. I would imagine for the children, it will be even more so.
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But you have to understand though, that, you know, what you described with how some parents in some
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parts of the country are, are just essentially given over to what I call on my program, a spirit
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of the age, which that's language your audience will understand. This is not a political discussion
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any longer, which transcended that. And it probably hasn't been for a long time. That's why for,
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for some people, no amount of data will work. For some people, no amount of science will work.
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You're literally in the line in the Valley of Ben Hinnom. You're in a line of families that are
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waiting to throw their babies into the fire to Malok. And you're the one that's standing there
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saying, you know, we did this last year and our crops sucked and it didn't work. So why do we
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think killing our kids again this year would work? I mean, we didn't get a good harvest last year.
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Maybe Malok is not God and everybody turns and looks at you like you're the last person in line
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at the Mayday parade. Okay. And that's, I mean, we're around a Maypole now, Allie. And I just think
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we need to understand that we are getting, for some people in our country and for some people,
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frankly, in our own families, we are at kick the dust off your sandals and move on territory
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where you cannot be reasoned with now. I just have to defeat you.
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I've experienced that in conversations that I've had. People who don't even realize that
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they're ideologically attached to a particular thought process, a particular conclusion about
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COVID, masking for toddlers, vaccines for kids, they don't even realize that their mind has been
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politicized by everything that they hear. They truly think that because they simply follow,
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you know, a memo that was put out by Merck or the CDC, that they're following the science and that
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people that are looking at actual data are the conspiracy theorists. And you truly, you actually
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can't reason with those people because they are operating from a place of emotion. It's very difficult.
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Anyone left or right to convince someone of something using facts if they feel like they
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have an emotionally vested interest in the position that they're in. So if someone believes that they
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are more religious, more righteous by making their five-year-old wear a mask or, you know,
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lining up their six-month-old for a Pfizer trial for this vaccine, you're not going to be able to
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convince them otherwise. But just for the people that can be convinced, to the point that you made at
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the beginning, that the data does seem, it just seems very random. There are just a few, there are a few
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charts that I saw that really speak to that. For example, in Vermont, there's about 100% of people
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over the age of 65, they're at least partially vaccinated and nearly as many people hospitalized
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with COVID as there has ever been right now. So it's reaching new heights of hospitalization
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in Vermont, even though almost 100% of their elderly population, the most vulnerable population
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has been vaccinated. There are other states that show the same thing. There's also the country of
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France. They have mask mandates. They have incredibly restrictive vaccine passports. Their recent case
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mortality numbers have even been higher than Sweden, which of course, as you've talked about
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many times, they have no mask mandates or vaccine passports. And that's just a couple examples of
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the same thing that's happening around the country. The CDC has this information available on their
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website. You just have to dig for it, that some of the most highly vaccinated states also have some of
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the highest case rates right now. And then consequently, some of the highest hospitalization rates.
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Again, I'm for people's choice to make the choice that they want to make.
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It just doesn't make sense logically or scientifically to be pushing this on people
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when it is not producing the results that we were promised that it was going to produce. And yet
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people are losing their livelihoods over this. Thousands and thousands of healthcare workers,
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frontline workers, firefighters, police officers, servicemen and women losing their livelihoods,
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their benefits over this for something that, again, like you said, is mostly only delivering
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Let's talk about three things in response to what you just eloquently said. Let's talk about
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let's talk about choice and talk about seasonality. And let's talk about science and let's do it back
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to front. Let's start with science. What you describe people's, some people's idolatrous,
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to use a stained glass window word, idolatrous relationship to science is not science.
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Science is observation in search of provable fact. Science is a method. It's not a dogma.
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If science were a dogma, there'd still be cocaine in your Coca-Cola. There would still be heroin in
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your cough syrup. Your primary care physician would still recommend a particular cigarette brand.
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While you're pregnant. Science is not a dogma. Two of the greatest scientific discoveries of the
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modern age that may have saved more lives than any other. One of them involved a Hungarian doctor who
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was just beside himself at the fact that childbirth was the number one killer of women well into the
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19th century. So he just had a, he just made a, he had a, a harebrained idea one day and said,
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you know, what if we clinically washed our hands before we started placing them inside women's
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bodies? And lo and behold, they started seeing the death rate plummet. And he was considered a quack,
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a nut job. He suggested we apply this to surgical procedures across the, across the board. Um,
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the, the, the criticism he received put him into a depressive state. Uh, some of his actual peers
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then cornered him and convinced him to have himself forcibly committed. He ended up dying
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after being, uh, straight jacketed and electroshock therapied, uh, in a sanitarium.
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And this is the guy that, that showed us that hand-washing was the number one thing that would
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actually reduce death in operating rooms. Yes. The other great scientific discovery is Alexander
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Fleming with penicillin. He was called a quack for over a decade for suggesting that the answer to,
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to cure, to curbing bacteria was found within molds, that they could be curated into medicines.
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And the first one he curated is a little medicine that became known as penicillin. Uh, and this was
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the invention of modern antibiotics. It took him well over a decade. This was in the 20th century
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before his, his peers would listen to him. They would follow him. Uh, he wanted penicillin to be
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available, uh, on a common basis. A corporation actually came in and patented it behind his back.
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All right. To profit off of it. I mean, this is the idea that science is a dogma and not a process
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and of observable facts and approvable method is where you have now, you have now, this is where
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you've put this in your blaze, Pascal, God-shaped hole in your heart. You have turned it into an idol
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and that's what you are describing there. And that's what a lot of people have done.
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And that's again, why facts and figures and data don't work on such people. You have to literally
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approach them evangelistically. You're dealing with a spirit. It's the same thing. If you went,
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if you went to the streets of Amman, Jordan and tried to convince them in the most moderate urban
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center in all of, uh, the Islamic world that the Quran wasn't true. You would not simply be able to
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argue this with objective data and facts. Muhammad was illiterate. We, we don't have any manuscripts
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within 500 years of, of when he died, how many different hadiths they wouldn't, they wouldn't
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care. You'd have to literally evangelize them spiritually. And that's, that's what you're
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dealing with here. When it comes to the science, when you look at the science, the number one driver
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of COVID in the world is seasonality. Number one. And it's not even close. That is the only rhyme or
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reason you see is that when it is your time and season to get a respiratory virus, your time and
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season will arrive. Similar to the flu, the cold and pneumonia. Steve, I was told that Ron Death
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Santis was actually going out and killing people in Florida. Is that not the case anymore?
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No, they have actually the lowest per capita case rate in the United States of America now because
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their, their seasonality is over. All right. And, and so you mentioned what's going on in Vermont.
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Vermont is the most vaccinated state in the union. It's the state that a bunch of lefty blue check
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marks kept trying to, to push at me as the, as the control group that showed lockdowns work.
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Well, they, they had the strictest lockdown and the most obedient lockdown in Vermont. And look
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what happened. Well, now look what's happened. They have the most vaccinated state in the union,
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which means they had months and months of vaccinated immunity to undergird and prepare themselves for
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the seasonal wave that in the North where I live, you live in the Sunbelt. I live in the North. So I'm
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in the same seasonality as Vermont. Our seasonality just began a few weeks ago. All right. We're not
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even in two January yet. All right. The dead of winter where you can't go outside. Why is seasonality
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the number one driver? Last year, our CDC found over 80% of COVID hospitalizations were vitamin D
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deficient. Last week, a massive study in Israel found that 23% of the COVID hospital, 23%, I'm sorry,
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26% of those who died with COVID hospitalizations were vitamin D deficient. Only 3% of those who were
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vitamin D sufficient died when hospitalized with COVID. And you're not even allowed to talk about that.
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You're not even allowed to say that people should be taking vitamin D. Now, when Jennifer Garner or
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Matthew McConaughey asked Anthony Fauci about this, he tells them the truth and says, yeah, I'm on about
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8,000 IUs of vitamin D per day. It's the only supplement that I actually believe in. So he tells the
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celebrities who are more important than audiences like ours. He tells them the truth. But if you and I go out
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there and say to our audiences, please go get your vitamin D level checked and everybody in your
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household right now and find out what the right maximum absorption level is for your body type and
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your health profile right away, because that's the first and most important thing you could do
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to undergird everyone in your family from either receiving or spreading COVID. You're right. We're
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called quacks, even though that is the number one driver. Why? Because in the wintertime,
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we can't go outside. We don't have the sun in the north. We stay inside. We're vitamin D deficient.
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When are y'all inside the most down there in the summer? In the summer. It's 100 degrees outside and
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no one even wants to get in the pool because it's so hot. Yes. And so this is the number one driver
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of COVID in the world is seasonality and it's not even close. Now, what we are about to find out in
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the north is if mass vaccination rates will help to undergird them from having the sort of size
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seasonal wave that you guys had in the more unvaccinated states in the south. The early
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indicators, as you have pointed out in states like Vermont, for example, are the answer to that
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question is going to be no. It's a little early yet for me to definitively say that. But the
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leading indicators now, if we were looking at if this were an election night and we were looking
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at voting returns and you're looking at what areas are out and what areas are in and you can
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already see in the most vaccinated state in the country that Vermont is already struggling to hold
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back its seasonal wave and it's the first week of November, we would likely look at each other if
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we were on a decision desk, unless we were on Fox News, then we'd wait, of course, until everybody
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else. But everywhere. But if we were anywhere but Fox News, we would look at each other and say, you
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know, that's a pretty that area. If it's coming in like that, then we probably know what kind of night
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we're heading into. And so seasonality is the number one driver, which brings me to the third thing I want
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to address choice in response to what you said. Everyone in your audience right now, everyone in
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your audience that lives within the northern seasonal wave has a choice right now. If you
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cannot document within this last, within this calendar year, within 2021, that you have recovered
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from a COVID infection and therefore you have what is otherwise known as natural immunity. All right.
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I have literally had lefty blue check marks come at me and claim that when I talk about natural
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immunity, I'm making a religious statement like I can't get sick because God gave me my immune
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system. I'm just I'm flabbergasted at this stuff. Me saying that I'm me saying that I'm lying when I
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talk about natural immunity. Joy reads that it's a conspiracy theory. Yes, yes. Well, even Trump called
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it a quote strategy last year, as I recall. But no, if you have natural immunity, meaning you have
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immunity from a recovered COVID infection that you can confirm. And the reason why I would say within the
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last calendar year is because there are some credible studies that do show 16, 24 months,
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just like you have you have if you get the flu strain in your community this year, you likely
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won't get it again. But it's a new strain every time we may end up with an endemic form of natural
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immunity where COVID is concerned, particularly particularly with the rapid rate of variants
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we are producing. So if you have not if you aren't sure, well, I had it in 2019. I'm sure of it.
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Nope, nope, nope, nope. Everyone in your audience right now that lives in the northern seasonal wave
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needs to know by the by the time they get off of work today, needs to be making arrangements to do
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one of two things. Number one, get their vitamin D levels for them and everyone in their household
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tested. And number two, know for sure if you've got antibodies from a confirmed COVID infection,
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because if you do not with where we are at right now, we have 60 in the first four weeks of
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October, we had 69% more cases, 85% more COVID deaths than we did the first four weeks of October
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2020. And no one was vaccinated in October 2020, obviously. Okay, so if you are in the northern
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wave, just like the Sunbelt just learned, it's worse than it was last year, it will be worse for
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your way or your region than it was last year. So you have a choice, you must know, do I have a
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documented confirmed case and people in my household of COVID-19 that we've recovered from? If not,
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this is the choice you now face. You will get on an installment plan of injections and re-injections
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and re-injections with an experimental technology that we frankly don't have much data actually works.
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At the very least, we know it does not prevent the spread and transmission of the virus, whether
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you're vaccinated or not. We know that even the CDC admitted that on CNN back in August.
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October 28th, Bloomberg reported vaccinated people are just as likely as unvaccinated people
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to spread the Delta variant. That was a UK study, correct. To contacts in their household, a year
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long study found. And Rochelle Walensky went on CNN, go look it up August 5th of this year,
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and told Wolf Blitzer that the vaccines no longer stop transmission. She said that on August 5th
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on CNN. You can go find that clip on Real Clear Politics on their video archive if you want to go
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see for it. Go go find it because you know Google will bury that. But you don't think that it's you
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don't think it's mitigating the severity and the death. I know we looked at Vermont and we looked
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at France, but do you think that it's mitigating hospitalization at all? Because that's, you know,
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what we continue to hear. Last week, right. Last week, CDC reported 40% of COVID deaths in America
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last week were fully vaccinated. 40% of them. But couldn't someone say though, well, yes,
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of course, as you have a higher number of vaccinated people, then of course you're going to have a higher
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percentage. Oh, I love this one. Yeah, this is one of my favorite ones. A higher percentage of people
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who are hospitalized, but the number itself is lower is what people would say. What do you say to that?
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I love this one. This is what I would say to this. Suppose we lived in a country where a majority of
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people identified as spirit-filled Christians. But we saw an alarming rate, alarming increase in the rate
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of wife beatings. And the defense was, well, guys, of course, there's going to be more wife
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beatings among the spirit-filled Christians because a majority of the country is spirit-filled
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Christians. This is, I mean, no, this is not how a vaccine works. When we, when we successfully
00:23:33.480
eradicated smallpox, the only virus we've ever successfully eradicated through vaccination,
00:23:38.160
we didn't then see, wow, look at the rates of smallpox increase because the smallpox vaccine
00:23:43.080
works so well. That's not the point of a vaccine. All right. Now, if we, if we all want to admit
00:23:49.580
that these are not vaccines and they are therapeutics, and therefore that means it's an
00:23:55.020
entirely personal decision for you, which risk do you want to take? Which gets back to my choice.
00:24:00.160
I was going to articulate the choice you have is to get on this, this therapeutic plan where you
00:24:04.940
will be injected and re-injected over and over again. We're already talking about fourth boosters.
00:24:09.540
Okay. Before we even start injecting the kids, this, the, the, the, at the very best you can say is
00:24:15.060
the efficacy with these things wanes between a period of three to nine months, depending on region,
00:24:19.660
your health profile, and that particular strain. And we have seen that all over the world. That's
00:24:24.880
why Canada just ordered four years worth of Pfizer boosters. That's why they're now doing a third
00:24:29.940
round of Pfizer boosters in Israel. They're, they're offering boosters of all four vaccines in the UK
00:24:35.180
right now because the efficacy wanes somewhere between three and nine months. So if you think,
00:24:40.300
I'm just going to get this jab once to keep my job. No, you won't. They're going to keep coming
00:24:44.580
back over and over again because the efficacy wanes. And that means, see, we, we have more
00:24:50.620
adverse side effects to these vaccines than any other vaccine in the history of the adverse side
00:24:55.340
effects database. Now, a lot of that is because of volume, because we have injected these more times
00:25:00.560
into people than any other vaccine, but keep this in mind, Allie, if we're going to do reoccurring
00:25:05.640
booster programs, do you know what happens with that side effect risk profile? It multiplies every time
00:25:10.860
you, every time you go back and you give out another 150 million doses of this, it just
00:25:15.720
multiplies the denominator of what the side effect risk profile is. So you will take your chances with
00:25:21.160
that, or you must understand what early treatments are available to you through things like the
00:25:27.540
frontline critical care Alliance and Dr. Pierre Corey, who you just had on your show, I think about a week
00:25:32.120
or so ago, uh, go to websites like early treatment report.com and learn about the, it's not just
00:25:38.300
hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. The data on ivermectin, by the way, is very good, but there
00:25:43.020
are other, um, early treatment protocols that are out there as well that doctors like Peter McCullough,
00:25:49.600
who's an award-winning cardiovascular, uh, physician, uh, for example, that they are advocating.
00:25:54.800
And so get to know early treatments at websites like early treatment report.com. And, and because
00:26:00.900
you're that that's the choice you face, you will be getting injected and re-injected, or you need to
00:26:05.900
know what early treatments are out there available for you. If you opt out of that plan.
00:26:13.120
People are realizing what you're saying that, okay, this is not just one job to keep my job
00:26:18.040
kind of thing. Like this is, um, not only a really big decision for right now, but it has long lasting
00:26:24.040
implications. And we're already seeing the repercussions of people realizing that and just
00:26:28.060
up and quitting their jobs. The trucking industry is in disarray. We saw American airlines finally
00:26:33.640
admitted that it was due to staffing shortages, uh, that they had to cancel a bunch of flights.
00:26:38.120
I fly American typically. And so I got their email and they did say something about staffing,
00:26:43.760
but of course they didn't say anything about a vaccine mandate or anything like that. Um,
00:26:48.280
but we are seeing the repercussions on already strained supply chain is being even more strained.
00:26:54.580
This has an effect, not just on people's Thanksgiving, their ability to get toys for their
00:26:58.140
kids for Christmas. I mean, we're seeing a shortage of supplies for life-saving devices for, you know,
00:27:03.740
babies in the PICU and, uh, you know, or kids in the PICU babies in the NICU. I mean, there's a lot
00:27:10.420
of things that are going on that these vaccine mandates are adversely affecting and people are
00:27:15.640
still convinced it's about public health. Now, do you have any hope? We had a hopeful night, um,
00:27:20.540
when it came to the elections, but do you have any hope that people are waking up to this,
00:27:24.860
that these mandates will go away, that people will be able to get a new job, keep their jobs,
00:27:31.720
that the supply chain won't be so burdened by all of this madness that we'll be able to get back to
00:27:37.280
some sense of normal, at least within the next few months, or are you pretty pessimistic about all of
00:27:42.120
this? Uh, both. I, I think you have to, I hate to be the double-minded man, unstable in all of his
00:27:49.260
ways, but, but we are, we're forecasting the trajectory here of two entirely separate cultures.
00:27:55.420
Okay. And, and, and so you mentioned, you know, earlier things like what's going to get,
00:28:00.340
what's going to happen in California and San Francisco, those places are gone that you're
00:28:04.900
watching Romans one, beginning with verse 18. All right. What does it look like when a, when a
00:28:11.240
society, when a culture, um, is given over to its own depraved minds there, you know, you, you kind
00:28:19.400
of subtly mentioned the hopeful night we had last night. There's a lot of talk on Twitter this
00:28:23.720
morning, boy, the Democrats are, they've got to be melted. They're not melting down at all. You
00:28:27.780
don't understand. You know, they're not, they're not, Jehovah's witnesses don't melt down because you
00:28:33.600
didn't answer your door for the 13th Saturday in a row. When they tried to bother you, they come back
00:28:38.380
for a 14th and 15th Saturday, guys. You're dealing with a religious cult, like spirit of the age
00:28:45.160
zealotry. And so you have to understand if you live in places like California or New York or
00:28:51.120
Massachusetts, you're not going to get away much longer. Even if you currently are, you're not going
00:28:55.860
to get away with much longer with this place is cray cray, but where I live is okay. No, it won't be.
00:29:01.920
They will seek to put the boot to your throat and impose this on you in a modern day form of the
00:29:07.180
as fast as they possibly can. You need to get out. You need to look to go to places where the other
00:29:14.720
America, because really these are two completely separate cultures now, just kind of coinciding
00:29:20.740
on a parallel track with each other under the same flag. It's in that culture. I was actually
00:29:25.800
pretty pessimistic earlier this year. I've grown far more optimistic as the year has grown on that
00:29:31.220
we are obtaining the level of frustration and anger, or maybe I should put it righteous indignation.
00:29:37.180
That is necessary for action and not passivity that we're beginning to figure out. We can't just
00:29:42.660
merely wait for the next election cycle and vote our way out of this, that the answer is us. We're
00:29:47.380
going to have to act. And that's why you're seeing the walkouts and the supply chain threats. And dude,
00:29:52.240
I'm the ugly American alley. I'm going to Costco after the show today. One of my favorite places in
00:29:56.960
America where a bunch of stuff I don't need is right there in bulk. But you know what I think?
00:30:01.460
Let it rain. Bring the pain. I want to see, you know, the word sabotage actually comes from
00:30:08.240
19th century France at the, or in the early industrial, industrial revolution and workers
00:30:14.560
there had no representation, no agency against just beyond despondent working conditions. And so
00:30:20.440
they took off the shoes that were worn by poor, uh, the poor peasants in France, the working class,
00:30:25.640
they were known as sabots, these, these little wooden shoes. And they took their sabots off.
00:30:29.780
They had nowhere else to go, nothing else to do, no political party, no one would listen to them.
00:30:33.980
And so in order to gum up the works, they took off their shoes and they plunged them into the gears
00:30:38.640
of the machines to grind them to a halt. And that is where the term sabotage comes from. I'm all for,
00:30:45.720
let's re-rack that classic Beastie Boys song from when I was a kid. I'm all for the sabotage.
00:30:50.720
I'm all for the shutdowns. I'm all for making, making this very painful on the spirit of the age,
00:30:56.600
because until it is more painful for them to inflict it upon us than, than it is for the pain
00:31:01.700
they get to inflict on us, it will not change. We have to change that calculus. And I think we're
00:31:07.620
seeing signs now, uh, the amount of attention being paid to things like local school board elections
00:31:12.320
and things of that nature that would have never occurred before. I mean, you know, you and I've
00:31:16.740
worked in this business a long time, me a little longer, just because I'm older than you,
00:31:19.880
but let's face it. A lot of our audiences, kind of our parent, the paradigm was tune into shows like
00:31:25.060
ours, get really worked up and then just wait to vote Republican in the next election. That ain't
00:31:29.760
going to cut it. And, and I think people have figured out this is, this is now a, you know,
00:31:34.840
a participatory sport. I've got to be an active participant in this. And so for, for that reason,
00:31:40.660
I am optimistic. If you though live in those States that are given over and gone to the spirit of the
00:31:46.240
age, if you can get out and sometimes you can't, you're taking care of a loved one,
00:31:49.740
what have you, you're tied into a mortgage. You can't get out from underneath. I'm sympathetic
00:31:53.320
to that. Understand it, man. I started my career working in a mail room. Okay. So I get, you know,
00:31:57.980
taking the dirt road, but if you are in a position where you can get the H double hockey sticks out
00:32:02.280
of those places, do it as soon as absolutely possible. Get out of those States, get out of
00:32:07.760
those jobs, basically get out of the position where you have to succumb to the boot that's on your
00:32:12.740
neck. That's what you're saying. Correct. Amen. And push back against it. I mean,
00:32:16.700
I have people working at corporations, friends who are vaccinated, friends who are unvaccinated,
00:32:21.560
who are both saying, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Okay. I was okay when it was a choice, but now that it's
00:32:26.700
mandated there's, and these are friends, by the way, who are not political. They are not people
00:32:32.800
who speak up about stuff. They don't even post things on social media about the election, but
00:32:37.180
they are seeing stuff like this coming down the pipeline. These vaccine mandates, either they don't
00:32:41.360
think they need it because they have natural immunity, or they just don't like the mandates.
00:32:44.980
And they are starting to stand up, strategize with people who work in the companies with them and
00:32:50.360
are saying, okay, how are we going to take this to the top? How are we going to push back against
00:32:54.760
this? They feel a responsibility even for employees that are lower on the totem pole who also are
00:33:00.820
against these vaccine mandates, but don't necessarily have the voice. So I'm seeing people speak up about
00:33:06.840
these mandates in corporations, in school boards, and elsewhere. So I do agree. Like I want people to get
00:33:13.600
out too, but at the same time, like what we saw in Virginia, what we're seeing in some corporations
00:33:18.020
is that when people stand up within the organizations and within the place, like that can make a
00:33:24.140
difference too. So I don't know the answer. Like, I don't know how to balance that. I want people to
00:33:28.260
get out of those situations, but I also want people to push back.
00:33:32.100
To me, I think, you know, Virginia, since reconstruction, only went blue one time since
00:33:37.380
reconstruction. That was Bill Clinton until Barack Obama came along. It had a Republican governor,
00:33:42.900
not a very good one, but it had a Republican governor just a little more than a decade ago.
00:33:48.100
So we're not talking about a place where, I'll just use the term, paganism. That's really what
00:33:53.500
we're describing here. Sometimes in our enclaves and in our platforms, it gets described as cultural
00:33:59.140
Marxism or communism or progressivism. But really what we're really talking about, if we're going to have
00:34:04.800
just a blunt theological conversation about this, is this is paganism. This is trying to take us back
00:34:10.400
to a pre-Western civilization understanding and view of the world, all right? This is bringing back,
00:34:16.320
you know, the Druid mythology, essentially, and calling it a political ideology. Virginia was not
00:34:23.860
as deeply embedded within that. It was going to be a tough turn, no question. A place like California,
00:34:30.380
we just had a referendum there. We just had an opportunity where the people there could
00:34:34.340
stand up and be heard. They chose not to. Now you know where you stand. Those are the kinds of
00:34:39.880
places I'm talking about. California, New York, Massachusetts, okay, where Texas Democrats are
00:34:45.680
more conservative than Massachusetts Republicans, okay? Those are the kinds of things I'm talking
00:34:50.400
about. If you are in those places, understand you are living in essentially a foreign country.
00:34:56.720
And so you can have nostalgia for it, but all you're doing, your vote doesn't matter,
00:35:00.680
your voice doesn't matter on a statewide basis. All you're really doing with your hard work and your
00:35:05.960
dedication and your good citizenry is all you're really doing is upholding and propelling them from
00:35:11.760
feeling the natural law implosion effects of their pagan beliefs. You're essentially providing,
00:35:17.540
you're a prophylaxis for them. You're protecting them from the consequences of their own actions.
00:35:21.920
Yep. And maybe some people, they can afford to stay in those situations. Maybe they're not even
00:35:29.780
working for a corporation that's forcing it. Maybe they're a freelancer, whatever they feel called
00:35:34.120
to stay and push back. But especially people with kids, it's not worth laying your kids on the altar.
00:35:39.760
It's not worth if you have the choice between living in a free state and a state where your toddler
00:35:45.120
or your first grader is sitting at a desk behind plexiglass and double masked unable to socialize
00:35:53.080
with their friends and have a normal learning experience. It's not worth staying in the places
00:35:57.140
that you just described. All right. That's all we have time for today. There's so much more I could
00:36:01.240
ask you about, but thank you as always for lending your insight. I really appreciate it.
00:36:06.200
Always love coming on and talking to your audience and you, Allie. Thank you.
00:36:09.320
Thank you very much. And everyone should go check out your show, subscribe,
00:36:12.840
watch you, all that good stuff. Thank you, Steve. All right. Take care. God bless.
00:36:20.740
So I want to end today's episode talking about this Tennessee law, the Tennessee legislature,
00:36:26.840
according to my colleague at the Blaze, Daniel Horowitz. He says Tennessee legislature bans
00:36:33.020
vaccine passports and protects doctors who speak out against shots. And so the article says we finally
00:36:38.860
have a red state that is living up to its reputation over the weekend. The Tennessee legislature
00:36:42.820
passed an omnibus COVID freedom bill that places the state on a completely different path to dealing
00:36:49.280
with this virus from the rest of the country. One rooted in science, compassion, liberty and health
00:36:54.460
care freedom. So it includes many of the provisions that we need to right the ship on COVID, certainly
00:36:59.920
much more than any other state has done so far. A few of the provisions in the bill, all governmental
00:37:05.880
and private entities would be barred from requiring proof of having taken COVID shots. They also
00:37:11.500
couldn't take adverse actions or deny employment based on vaccination status provides a cause of
00:37:17.680
action for anyone injured by the vaccine as a result of an employer asking the individual to
00:37:22.980
receive it. That's huge. That's huge. It should be obvious, but many states, I don't think any states
00:37:28.380
have taken that action so far, except in a few circumstances. This bill completely bars any local
00:37:33.480
governmental entity or schools from requiring someone to wear a mask or taking adverse action
00:37:39.400
against people for not covering their faces. We will link one or two of the past episodes that
00:37:45.080
we've done on masks and the lack of data of mask efficacy, mask mandate efficacy, effectiveness
00:37:53.020
that we have, we've talked about before. So we'll link those past episodes in the description to
00:37:58.540
this podcast. So masks can be required under severe conditions, but just for 14 days in medical
00:38:06.160
exemptions must be accepted. It removes any authority of a local health entity or official
00:38:12.780
mayor governmental entity or school to quarantine a person or private business due to COVID-19 for simple
00:38:19.680
exposure to the virus prohibits any healthcare provider from vaccinating a child without parental
00:38:25.060
consent. That's really scary that that needs to even be placed in this bill prohibits all use of
00:38:31.980
state funding to go toward implementation of any federal COVID countermeasure. Lots of things that
00:38:38.060
this particular bill does to protect people's liberty. Again, this is not COVID denial. You heard
00:38:42.960
Steve Dace talk about this. This is not a denial of COVID. Like we understand it's a real virus. We
00:38:48.280
understand it can kill people. I know people who have been very severely affected by this virus.
00:38:53.060
There is actually a celebrity, Christy Swanson, who, as I am recording this, she is in the hospital
00:38:58.100
with COVID pneumonia. This is a real thing. If you believe that, if you see from the data,
00:39:04.340
from the science that has been made publicly available, that you would like to get the vaccine,
00:39:09.800
then you should be able to get the vaccine. No one should judge you for that. No one should say
00:39:13.400
that you're a bad person. Likewise, no one should say that you're a bad person if you choose
00:39:16.980
not to get the vaccine and your life and livelihood should not be ruined because of that particular
00:39:21.920
medical choice. And yet we are seeing, despite all the numbers that are showing that actually
00:39:27.100
hospitalization rates and even death rates and case rates are still high in some of the places
00:39:31.700
where vaccination rates are high, people are still being forced into this decision. And it just doesn't
00:39:36.340
make any sense for thousands of healthcare workers to be denied their employment while apparently we're
00:39:42.260
going through a pandemic because they are not taking a vaccine for a disease that they probably have
00:39:47.820
already acquired natural immunity for. And even if they have it, still has an over 99% survival rate.
00:39:55.420
So it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. We just got to think hard about this. And so good for
00:39:59.620
Tennessee. Good for Tennessee for this bill. There's also Joni Ernst. She's a Republican in Congress.
00:40:06.500
She's a senator and she has introduced legislation aimed at banning funding gain of function research in
00:40:12.980
China. This is something that we know that, unfortunately, Fauci has lied about. And the
00:40:20.300
Fauci Act that she is introducing in the Senate bans U.S. funding for gain of function research in
00:40:25.900
China. Of course, this is something that should have been done a long time ago. It's probably
00:40:29.280
not going to pass, unfortunately, even though it should be bipartisan. It's really not. This is more
00:40:35.020
of a Republican thing of really trying to discover where this virus came from, why it's affecting people the
00:40:41.440
way that it has, really looking at the data and looking at the measures that can actually be seen
00:40:45.580
as effective. That shouldn't be a Republican thing. It should be a bipartisan thing. Unfortunately,
00:40:50.980
some people are so wedded to the ideological aspects of COVID on the left side of the aisle.
00:40:56.580
Not everyone on the left. There are certainly some heterodox doctors that have come out,
00:41:00.200
you know, in favor of at least having an end goal for mask mandates for kids. But unfortunately,
00:41:05.400
this is highly partisan, even though it should be. But some people are pushing back. Some people
00:41:10.740
are pushing back. And as we have seen in elections this week, that can be highly effective. And so
00:41:17.360
keep on standing up. Keep on speaking up. Keep on, as we say on this show, raising a respectful
00:41:22.560
ruckus because it can matter. It can actually do something. Your kids matter. Them being forced into
00:41:29.680
a vaccine that maybe you're not sure about for, I think, very logical reasons. That's immoral. That's
00:41:34.540
grotesque. You should make your voice heard, if not for yourself, then for the generation that's
00:41:39.600
coming after us. All right. That's all we've got time for today. We will be back here on Monday.