Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 518 ｜ Just One Jab to Keep Your Job？ Think Again ｜ Guest： Steve Deace

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. We are almost through this week. Today we

00:00:14.820 are finally talking about COVID and man, we are not even going to be able to talk about

00:00:18.940 everything I want to talk about in regards to Dr. Fauci and his testimony and his, the

00:00:25.660 admission that, you know, gain of function research was happening and being funded by

00:00:30.440 the NIH and all that stuff. We're not even going to be able to talk about everything that I want to.

00:00:35.200 We're going to talk a little bit about the vaccines now being made available to children

00:00:40.100 ages five through 11, even the mandates for this age group coming down the pipeline

00:00:44.540 in some places across the country. We're going to talk to Steve Dace. I think he's one of the best

00:00:49.500 people on this subject, on a lot of subjects, but in particular on this one, because he looks at the

00:00:55.000 he studies the data every day and he's drawing, I think, very smart conclusions about all of this.

00:01:01.060 And he just really makes us think. And he also puts it in a spiritual perspective. He looks at

00:01:07.340 this from a biblical worldview, which I think is really important. Now I've already recorded that

00:01:12.840 interview as I am doing this introduction. And so know that there might not, there might not be,

00:01:19.560 or there might be things that are said in the interview that you don't particularly agree with,

00:01:24.360 but I encourage you to chew on it. There's again, probably no one that has looked at the data

00:01:30.540 and looked at the science more closely or few people who have looked at the data and science

00:01:35.020 more closely than Steve Dace. And so he draws, he draws a lot of interesting conclusions that I at least

00:01:41.380 think are worth your time considering. If you want to follow all of the mitigation measures that are

00:01:49.020 passed down by the CDC, then you can absolutely do this. We know this virus is real. We know it can

00:01:54.840 be serious for a lot of people. We know that it's not a one size fits all the different therapeutics

00:01:59.720 that you want to take, the different measures that you think are effective for you and your family.

00:02:03.920 I am absolutely for choice. I am against medical tyranny. I am for informed consent. And I am against a lot of

00:02:11.480 the totalitarian measures that we are seeing come down on people ruining their lives, taking away

00:02:17.760 their livelihoods based on data that just is not there. And so that's my biggest concern in all of

00:02:24.720 this. And Steve Dace, as always, is going to very wisely help us dig through all of this information.

00:02:31.420 And we'll have to do a follow up with even more stuff that I want to talk about on all of this next

00:02:37.140 week. But for now, without further ado, here is Steve Dace. Steve, thank you so much for joining

00:02:44.840 us again. Okay, start us off just by saying what's the latest on COVID, on the vaccine, on Fauci. We

00:02:53.460 haven't covered it in a while on the show. So just kind of set us up for what's been going on.

00:02:59.320 The data is totally random. There is no correlation between vaccination rates and lower

00:03:06.620 transmission rates. There is no such correlation, frankly, anywhere in the world. The only correlation

00:03:13.940 we can seemingly find to rises and falls of case rates applies to seasonality. The vaccines, how

00:03:21.640 honest can I be? Because it's not my show. It's yours. Okay. So how honest, how honest,

00:03:27.980 Ali, can I be? That's my question to you before I continue my answer.

00:03:31.700 Be as honest as you can without getting us immediately kicked off YouTube. Maybe it's

00:03:38.500 inevitable. Maybe it's inevitable, but try to hedge a little bit.

00:03:43.460 Okay. All right. Then I will use this euphemism. The vaccines are a substandard product. It is

00:03:52.860 not what people believed they were getting themselves involved in. And it's in marketing, it would be

00:04:00.460 otherwise called some form of a bait and switch. You have an outstanding piece over at Newsweek

00:04:06.720 today written by scientists from Stanford and Harvard, you know, a couple pretty, I guess,

00:04:12.620 you know, podunk universities that go through in a fact-filled piece and just completely deconstruct

00:04:18.840 Anthony Fauci and his failures. Similar to what I have done on our show, but they've got a lot more

00:04:24.940 scientific credentials than I do, obviously. So those would be sort of the, and we're about to

00:04:31.820 inject children with an experimental substance that even during its televised hearings, the FDA

00:04:38.500 literally said, we won't know how safe it is for kids until we put it in them.

00:04:43.080 Right.

00:04:43.700 And if you were to go back, and I did this here on Blaze TV yesterday in our overtime, if your audience,

00:04:50.080 if they're subscribers, if they want to go find it, is I went back and looked at the depth of vaccine

00:04:55.420 trials for the polio vaccine, which was far more deadly than COVID and far deadlier to children,

00:05:01.920 obviously. But the depths of proof that they had to go to, go through for the COVID, for the polio

00:05:07.240 vaccine before injecting it into the children and the general public compared to COVID. And it's like

00:05:13.100 another dimension. So those are sort of the meta topics of where things stand right now.

00:05:17.920 So the FDA, the CDC approved it for kids ages five to 11. I can't, I personally can't imagine

00:05:27.200 why a parent would make that decision. But of course, I believe the parents should be free to

00:05:33.280 do what they think is best for their kid. But in somewhere like San Francisco, they're actually

00:05:37.960 going to require proof of vaccination for these kids to enter into public spaces. I'm guessing the

00:05:44.420 people of San Francisco want this. That's something that I've been surprised by disappointed by

00:05:49.120 is that not everyone feels the way that you and I do. There are people who love these draconian

00:05:53.960 restrictions. You can't wait to give this vaccine to their newborn who love the double mask mandates

00:06:01.060 for their toddlers. They love it. How do you think something like this, though, is going to go over

00:06:06.580 with most Americans? If other states try this, you know, saying that kids can't enter into these

00:06:13.500 spaces without proof of vaccination. How's that going to go over?

00:06:17.460 I think you just look at what's going on in the New Jersey election as we speak, where you had

00:06:23.320 the video from Project Veritas that emerged just a couple of days ago with a senior strategist for

00:06:28.420 Governor Murphy admitting on camera that, yeah, he's going to impose all kinds of vaccine mandates,

00:06:32.960 but he just has to wait until after the election because they're not popular. And I guess by some

00:06:37.420 counts, as you and I are recording this, he has pulled ahead, I mean, very weakly in a state that

00:06:44.940 was on nobody's radar. You've got the state Senate leader for Democrats there. He just lost his race

00:06:50.380 to a guy that spent $200. Wow. $200. That's it. The Democrat lost to a Republican who spent $200.

00:06:57.340 Yes. Yes. So these things, you know, you've had Trafalgar Group polling has shown from the very

00:07:04.100 beginning that vaccine mandates for adults were very unpopular. And, you know, Trafalgar Group,

00:07:09.540 if your audience is into polling and doesn't know who to trust, I will tell you, and now 2016,

00:07:14.480 2018, 2020, this is now 2021. This is the fourth election cycle we've had that they have by far been

00:07:20.840 the most accurate. You know, I keep track and chart things like this. They had Yunkin in their final

00:07:25.660 poll winning by two and a half points. It looks like he's going to win by 2.1. I mean, that's

00:07:29.800 pretty close to nailing it. Okay. So Trafalgar Group had early on that vaccine mandates for adults

00:07:35.740 were way underwater. And now you've got mainstream media polling as of yesterday showing the same

00:07:41.180 thing that is trending that direction. I would imagine for the children, it will be even more so.

00:07:47.020 But you have to understand though, that, you know, what you described with how some parents in some

00:07:54.080 parts of the country are, are just essentially given over to what I call on my program, a spirit

00:07:59.660 of the age, which that's language your audience will understand. This is not a political discussion

00:08:04.400 any longer, which transcended that. And it probably hasn't been for a long time. That's why for,

00:08:10.040 for some people, no amount of data will work. For some people, no amount of science will work.

00:08:14.800 You're literally in the line in the Valley of Ben Hinnom. You're in a line of families that are

00:08:20.320 waiting to throw their babies into the fire to Malok. And you're the one that's standing there 1.00

00:08:24.980 saying, you know, we did this last year and our crops sucked and it didn't work. So why do we

00:08:30.120 think killing our kids again this year would work? I mean, we didn't get a good harvest last year. 0.92

00:08:34.620 Maybe Malok is not God and everybody turns and looks at you like you're the last person in line

00:08:39.640 at the Mayday parade. Okay. And that's, I mean, we're around a Maypole now, Allie. And I just think

00:08:45.400 we need to understand that we are getting, for some people in our country and for some people,

00:08:51.000 frankly, in our own families, we are at kick the dust off your sandals and move on territory

00:08:55.480 where you cannot be reasoned with now. I just have to defeat you.

00:09:02.420 I've experienced that in conversations that I've had. People who don't even realize that

00:09:06.460 they're ideologically attached to a particular thought process, a particular conclusion about

00:09:13.360 COVID, masking for toddlers, vaccines for kids, they don't even realize that their mind has been

00:09:20.840 politicized by everything that they hear. They truly think that because they simply follow,

00:09:26.720 you know, a memo that was put out by Merck or the CDC, that they're following the science and that

00:09:32.260 people that are looking at actual data are the conspiracy theorists. And you truly, you actually

00:09:37.160 can't reason with those people because they are operating from a place of emotion. It's very difficult.

00:09:42.220 Anyone left or right to convince someone of something using facts if they feel like they

00:09:47.580 have an emotionally vested interest in the position that they're in. So if someone believes that they

00:09:53.120 are more religious, more righteous by making their five-year-old wear a mask or, you know,

00:09:59.160 lining up their six-month-old for a Pfizer trial for this vaccine, you're not going to be able to

00:10:05.060 convince them otherwise. But just for the people that can be convinced, to the point that you made at

00:10:09.460 the beginning, that the data does seem, it just seems very random. There are just a few, there are a few

00:10:17.800 charts that I saw that really speak to that. For example, in Vermont, there's about 100% of people

00:10:25.360 over the age of 65, they're at least partially vaccinated and nearly as many people hospitalized

00:10:33.280 with COVID as there has ever been right now. So it's reaching new heights of hospitalization

00:10:39.640 in Vermont, even though almost 100% of their elderly population, the most vulnerable population

00:10:46.140 has been vaccinated. There are other states that show the same thing. There's also the country of

00:10:54.060 France. They have mask mandates. They have incredibly restrictive vaccine passports. Their recent case

00:10:59.700 mortality numbers have even been higher than Sweden, which of course, as you've talked about

00:11:03.920 many times, they have no mask mandates or vaccine passports. And that's just a couple examples of

00:11:10.760 the same thing that's happening around the country. The CDC has this information available on their

00:11:15.540 website. You just have to dig for it, that some of the most highly vaccinated states also have some of

00:11:20.500 the highest case rates right now. And then consequently, some of the highest hospitalization rates.

00:11:25.880 Again, I'm for people's choice to make the choice that they want to make.

00:11:30.320 It just doesn't make sense logically or scientifically to be pushing this on people

00:11:34.500 when it is not producing the results that we were promised that it was going to produce. And yet

00:11:40.340 people are losing their livelihoods over this. Thousands and thousands of healthcare workers,

00:11:44.680 frontline workers, firefighters, police officers, servicemen and women losing their livelihoods,

00:11:50.260 their benefits over this for something that, again, like you said, is mostly only delivering

00:11:56.080 tens of billions of dollars to Pfizer.

00:12:00.240 Let's talk about three things in response to what you just eloquently said. Let's talk about

00:12:04.340 let's talk about choice and talk about seasonality. And let's talk about science and let's do it back

00:12:09.500 to front. Let's start with science. What you describe people's, some people's idolatrous,

00:12:15.960 to use a stained glass window word, idolatrous relationship to science is not science.

00:12:21.660 Science is observation in search of provable fact. Science is a method. It's not a dogma.

00:12:27.680 If science were a dogma, there'd still be cocaine in your Coca-Cola. There would still be heroin in

00:12:33.100 your cough syrup. Your primary care physician would still recommend a particular cigarette brand.

00:12:39.620 Right. While you're pregnant. 1.00

00:12:41.900 While you're pregnant. Science is not a dogma. Two of the greatest scientific discoveries of the

00:12:47.260 modern age that may have saved more lives than any other. One of them involved a Hungarian doctor who

00:12:54.860 was just beside himself at the fact that childbirth was the number one killer of women well into the

00:13:01.460 19th century. So he just had a, he just made a, he had a, a harebrained idea one day and said,

00:13:07.300 you know, what if we clinically washed our hands before we started placing them inside women's 1.00

00:13:12.980 bodies? And lo and behold, they started seeing the death rate plummet. And he was considered a quack,

00:13:19.660 a nut job. He suggested we apply this to surgical procedures across the, across the board. Um,

00:13:25.820 the, the, the criticism he received put him into a depressive state. Uh, some of his actual peers

00:13:31.480 then cornered him and convinced him to have himself forcibly committed. He ended up dying

00:13:36.840 after being, uh, straight jacketed and electroshock therapied, uh, in a sanitarium.

00:13:42.480 Wow. I didn't even know that.

00:13:43.060 And this is the guy that, that showed us that hand-washing was the number one thing that would

00:13:47.200 actually reduce death in operating rooms. Yes. The other great scientific discovery is Alexander

00:13:52.940 Fleming with penicillin. He was called a quack for over a decade for suggesting that the answer to,

00:13:58.760 to cure, to curbing bacteria was found within molds, that they could be curated into medicines.

00:14:04.300 And the first one he curated is a little medicine that became known as penicillin. Uh, and this was

00:14:09.500 the invention of modern antibiotics. It took him well over a decade. This was in the 20th century

00:14:13.980 before his, his peers would listen to him. They would follow him. Uh, he wanted penicillin to be

00:14:20.040 available, uh, on a common basis. A corporation actually came in and patented it behind his back.

00:14:25.340 All right. To profit off of it. I mean, this is the idea that science is a dogma and not a process

00:14:32.380 and of observable facts and approvable method is where you have now, you have now, this is where

00:14:38.320 you've put this in your blaze, Pascal, God-shaped hole in your heart. You have turned it into an idol

00:14:43.940 and that's what you are describing there. And that's what a lot of people have done.

00:14:47.680 And that's again, why facts and figures and data don't work on such people. You have to literally

00:14:53.060 approach them evangelistically. You're dealing with a spirit. It's the same thing. If you went,

00:14:59.200 if you went to the streets of Amman, Jordan and tried to convince them in the most moderate urban

00:15:03.800 center in all of, uh, the Islamic world that the Quran wasn't true. You would not simply be able to

00:15:10.300 argue this with objective data and facts. Muhammad was illiterate. We, we don't have any manuscripts 0.99

00:15:15.660 within 500 years of, of when he died, how many different hadiths they wouldn't, they wouldn't

00:15:20.620 care. You'd have to literally evangelize them spiritually. And that's, that's what you're

00:15:25.580 dealing with here. When it comes to the science, when you look at the science, the number one driver

00:15:30.480 of COVID in the world is seasonality. Number one. And it's not even close. That is the only rhyme or

00:15:36.120 reason you see is that when it is your time and season to get a respiratory virus, your time and

00:15:41.540 season will arrive. Similar to the flu, the cold and pneumonia. Steve, I was told that Ron Death

00:15:47.340 Santis was actually going out and killing people in Florida. Is that not the case anymore?

00:15:55.360 No, they have actually the lowest per capita case rate in the United States of America now because

00:15:58.780 their, their seasonality is over. All right. And, and so you mentioned what's going on in Vermont.

00:16:03.520 Vermont is the most vaccinated state in the union. It's the state that a bunch of lefty blue check 0.75

00:16:09.280 marks kept trying to, to push at me as the, as the control group that showed lockdowns work.

00:16:14.300 Well, they, they had the strictest lockdown and the most obedient lockdown in Vermont. And look

00:16:17.780 what happened. Well, now look what's happened. They have the most vaccinated state in the union,

00:16:22.100 which means they had months and months of vaccinated immunity to undergird and prepare themselves for

00:16:28.400 the seasonal wave that in the North where I live, you live in the Sunbelt. I live in the North. So I'm

00:16:32.960 in the same seasonality as Vermont. Our seasonality just began a few weeks ago. All right. We're not

00:16:38.140 even in two January yet. All right. The dead of winter where you can't go outside. Why is seasonality

00:16:43.340 the number one driver? Last year, our CDC found over 80% of COVID hospitalizations were vitamin D

00:16:48.880 deficient. Last week, a massive study in Israel found that 23% of the COVID hospital, 23%, I'm sorry,

00:16:57.840 26% of those who died with COVID hospitalizations were vitamin D deficient. Only 3% of those who were

00:17:04.960 vitamin D sufficient died when hospitalized with COVID. And you're not even allowed to talk about that.

00:17:09.960 You're not even allowed to say that people should be taking vitamin D. Now, when Jennifer Garner or

00:17:15.380 Matthew McConaughey asked Anthony Fauci about this, he tells them the truth and says, yeah, I'm on about

00:17:20.400 8,000 IUs of vitamin D per day. It's the only supplement that I actually believe in. So he tells the

00:17:26.140 celebrities who are more important than audiences like ours. He tells them the truth. But if you and I go out

00:17:31.620 there and say to our audiences, please go get your vitamin D level checked and everybody in your

00:17:35.540 household right now and find out what the right maximum absorption level is for your body type and

00:17:41.720 your health profile right away, because that's the first and most important thing you could do

00:17:47.260 to undergird everyone in your family from either receiving or spreading COVID. You're right. We're

00:17:52.640 called quacks, even though that is the number one driver. Why? Because in the wintertime,

00:17:58.040 we can't go outside. We don't have the sun in the north. We stay inside. We're vitamin D deficient.

00:18:03.080 When are y'all inside the most down there in the summer? In the summer. It's 100 degrees outside and

00:18:08.300 no one even wants to get in the pool because it's so hot. Yes. And so this is the number one driver

00:18:13.240 of COVID in the world is seasonality and it's not even close. Now, what we are about to find out in

00:18:21.460 the north is if mass vaccination rates will help to undergird them from having the sort of size

00:18:28.020 seasonal wave that you guys had in the more unvaccinated states in the south. The early

00:18:33.560 indicators, as you have pointed out in states like Vermont, for example, are the answer to that

00:18:37.740 question is going to be no. It's a little early yet for me to definitively say that. But the

00:18:42.860 leading indicators now, if we were looking at if this were an election night and we were looking

00:18:47.380 at voting returns and you're looking at what areas are out and what areas are in and you can

00:18:51.780 already see in the most vaccinated state in the country that Vermont is already struggling to hold

00:18:56.880 back its seasonal wave and it's the first week of November, we would likely look at each other if

00:19:02.200 we were on a decision desk, unless we were on Fox News, then we'd wait, of course, until everybody

00:19:05.740 else. But everywhere. But if we were anywhere but Fox News, we would look at each other and say, you

00:19:09.600 know, that's a pretty that area. If it's coming in like that, then we probably know what kind of night

00:19:14.280 we're heading into. And so seasonality is the number one driver, which brings me to the third thing I want

00:19:20.620 to address choice in response to what you said. Everyone in your audience right now, everyone in

00:19:26.260 your audience that lives within the northern seasonal wave has a choice right now. If you

00:19:32.060 cannot document within this last, within this calendar year, within 2021, that you have recovered

00:19:38.080 from a COVID infection and therefore you have what is otherwise known as natural immunity. All right.

00:19:44.060 I have literally had lefty blue check marks come at me and claim that when I talk about natural

00:19:49.060 immunity, I'm making a religious statement like I can't get sick because God gave me my immune

00:19:53.260 system. I'm just I'm flabbergasted at this stuff. Me saying that I'm me saying that I'm lying when I

00:19:58.800 talk about natural immunity. Joy reads that it's a conspiracy theory. Yes, yes. Well, even Trump called

00:20:04.100 it a quote strategy last year, as I recall. But no, if you have natural immunity, meaning you have

00:20:10.200 immunity from a recovered COVID infection that you can confirm. And the reason why I would say within the

00:20:16.040 last calendar year is because there are some credible studies that do show 16, 24 months,

00:20:22.620 just like you have you have if you get the flu strain in your community this year, you likely

00:20:26.820 won't get it again. But it's a new strain every time we may end up with an endemic form of natural

00:20:31.720 immunity where COVID is concerned, particularly particularly with the rapid rate of variants

00:20:36.560 we are producing. So if you have not if you aren't sure, well, I had it in 2019. I'm sure of it.

00:20:41.640 Nope, nope, nope, nope. Everyone in your audience right now that lives in the northern seasonal wave

00:20:46.540 needs to know by the by the time they get off of work today, needs to be making arrangements to do

00:20:51.840 one of two things. Number one, get their vitamin D levels for them and everyone in their household

00:20:56.000 tested. And number two, know for sure if you've got antibodies from a confirmed COVID infection,

00:21:01.440 because if you do not with where we are at right now, we have 60 in the first four weeks of

00:21:06.900 October, we had 69% more cases, 85% more COVID deaths than we did the first four weeks of October

00:21:14.440 2020. And no one was vaccinated in October 2020, obviously. Okay, so if you are in the northern

00:21:20.400 wave, just like the Sunbelt just learned, it's worse than it was last year, it will be worse for

00:21:25.500 your way or your region than it was last year. So you have a choice, you must know, do I have a

00:21:30.920 documented confirmed case and people in my household of COVID-19 that we've recovered from? If not,

00:21:37.260 this is the choice you now face. You will get on an installment plan of injections and re-injections

00:21:43.480 and re-injections with an experimental technology that we frankly don't have much data actually works.

00:21:49.920 At the very least, we know it does not prevent the spread and transmission of the virus, whether

00:21:55.120 you're vaccinated or not. We know that even the CDC admitted that on CNN back in August.

00:21:59.740 October 28th, Bloomberg reported vaccinated people are just as likely as unvaccinated people

00:22:05.840 to spread the Delta variant. That was a UK study, correct. To contacts in their household, a year

00:22:10.960 long study found. And Rochelle Walensky went on CNN, go look it up August 5th of this year,

00:22:18.300 and told Wolf Blitzer that the vaccines no longer stop transmission. She said that on August 5th

00:22:24.400 on CNN. You can go find that clip on Real Clear Politics on their video archive if you want to go

00:22:29.660 see for it. Go go find it because you know Google will bury that. But you don't think that it's you

00:22:33.280 don't think it's mitigating the severity and the death. I know we looked at Vermont and we looked

00:22:37.520 at France, but do you think that it's mitigating hospitalization at all? Because that's, you know,

00:22:42.520 what we continue to hear. Last week, right. Last week, CDC reported 40% of COVID deaths in America

00:22:48.720 last week were fully vaccinated. 40% of them. But couldn't someone say though, well, yes,

00:22:54.700 of course, as you have a higher number of vaccinated people, then of course you're going to have a higher

00:23:00.360 percentage. Oh, I love this one. Yeah, this is one of my favorite ones. A higher percentage of people

00:23:03.620 who are hospitalized, but the number itself is lower is what people would say. What do you say to that?

00:23:08.000 I love this one. This is what I would say to this. Suppose we lived in a country where a majority of

00:23:12.640 people identified as spirit-filled Christians. But we saw an alarming rate, alarming increase in the rate

00:23:18.420 of wife beatings. And the defense was, well, guys, of course, there's going to be more wife 0.97

00:23:23.680 beatings among the spirit-filled Christians because a majority of the country is spirit-filled

00:23:27.640 Christians. This is, I mean, no, this is not how a vaccine works. When we, when we successfully

00:23:33.480 eradicated smallpox, the only virus we've ever successfully eradicated through vaccination,

00:23:38.160 we didn't then see, wow, look at the rates of smallpox increase because the smallpox vaccine

00:23:43.080 works so well. That's not the point of a vaccine. All right. Now, if we, if we all want to admit

00:23:49.580 that these are not vaccines and they are therapeutics, and therefore that means it's an

00:23:55.020 entirely personal decision for you, which risk do you want to take? Which gets back to my choice.

00:24:00.160 I was going to articulate the choice you have is to get on this, this therapeutic plan where you

00:24:04.940 will be injected and re-injected over and over again. We're already talking about fourth boosters.

00:24:09.540 Okay. Before we even start injecting the kids, this, the, the, the, at the very best you can say is

00:24:15.060 the efficacy with these things wanes between a period of three to nine months, depending on region,

00:24:19.660 your health profile, and that particular strain. And we have seen that all over the world. That's

00:24:24.880 why Canada just ordered four years worth of Pfizer boosters. That's why they're now doing a third

00:24:29.940 round of Pfizer boosters in Israel. They're, they're offering boosters of all four vaccines in the UK

00:24:35.180 right now because the efficacy wanes somewhere between three and nine months. So if you think,

00:24:40.300 I'm just going to get this jab once to keep my job. No, you won't. They're going to keep coming

00:24:44.580 back over and over again because the efficacy wanes. And that means, see, we, we have more

00:24:50.620 adverse side effects to these vaccines than any other vaccine in the history of the adverse side

00:24:55.340 effects database. Now, a lot of that is because of volume, because we have injected these more times

00:25:00.560 into people than any other vaccine, but keep this in mind, Allie, if we're going to do reoccurring

00:25:05.640 booster programs, do you know what happens with that side effect risk profile? It multiplies every time

00:25:10.860 you, every time you go back and you give out another 150 million doses of this, it just

00:25:15.720 multiplies the denominator of what the side effect risk profile is. So you will take your chances with

00:25:21.160 that, or you must understand what early treatments are available to you through things like the

00:25:27.540 frontline critical care Alliance and Dr. Pierre Corey, who you just had on your show, I think about a week

00:25:32.120 or so ago, uh, go to websites like early treatment report.com and learn about the, it's not just

00:25:38.300 hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. The data on ivermectin, by the way, is very good, but there

00:25:43.020 are other, um, early treatment protocols that are out there as well that doctors like Peter McCullough,

00:25:49.600 who's an award-winning cardiovascular, uh, physician, uh, for example, that they are advocating.

00:25:54.800 And so get to know early treatments at websites like early treatment report.com. And, and because

00:26:00.900 you're that that's the choice you face, you will be getting injected and re-injected, or you need to

00:26:05.900 know what early treatments are out there available for you. If you opt out of that plan.

00:26:13.120 People are realizing what you're saying that, okay, this is not just one job to keep my job

00:26:18.040 kind of thing. Like this is, um, not only a really big decision for right now, but it has long lasting

00:26:24.040 implications. And we're already seeing the repercussions of people realizing that and just

00:26:28.060 up and quitting their jobs. The trucking industry is in disarray. We saw American airlines finally

00:26:33.640 admitted that it was due to staffing shortages, uh, that they had to cancel a bunch of flights.

00:26:38.120 I fly American typically. And so I got their email and they did say something about staffing,

00:26:43.760 but of course they didn't say anything about a vaccine mandate or anything like that. Um,

00:26:48.280 but we are seeing the repercussions on already strained supply chain is being even more strained.

00:26:54.580 This has an effect, not just on people's Thanksgiving, their ability to get toys for their

00:26:58.140 kids for Christmas. I mean, we're seeing a shortage of supplies for life-saving devices for, you know,

00:27:03.740 babies in the PICU and, uh, you know, or kids in the PICU babies in the NICU. I mean, there's a lot

00:27:10.420 of things that are going on that these vaccine mandates are adversely affecting and people are

00:27:15.640 still convinced it's about public health. Now, do you have any hope? We had a hopeful night, um,

00:27:20.540 when it came to the elections, but do you have any hope that people are waking up to this,

00:27:24.860 that these mandates will go away, that people will be able to get a new job, keep their jobs,

00:27:31.720 that the supply chain won't be so burdened by all of this madness that we'll be able to get back to

00:27:37.280 some sense of normal, at least within the next few months, or are you pretty pessimistic about all of

00:27:42.120 this? Uh, both. I, I think you have to, I hate to be the double-minded man, unstable in all of his

00:27:49.260 ways, but, but we are, we're forecasting the trajectory here of two entirely separate cultures.

00:27:55.420 Okay. And, and, and so you mentioned, you know, earlier things like what's going to get,

00:28:00.340 what's going to happen in California and San Francisco, those places are gone that you're

00:28:04.900 watching Romans one, beginning with verse 18. All right. What does it look like when a, when a

00:28:11.240 society, when a culture, um, is given over to its own depraved minds there, you know, you, you kind

00:28:19.400 of subtly mentioned the hopeful night we had last night. There's a lot of talk on Twitter this

00:28:23.720 morning, boy, the Democrats are, they've got to be melted. They're not melting down at all. You

00:28:27.780 don't understand. You know, they're not, they're not, Jehovah's witnesses don't melt down because you

00:28:33.600 didn't answer your door for the 13th Saturday in a row. When they tried to bother you, they come back

00:28:38.380 for a 14th and 15th Saturday, guys. You're dealing with a religious cult, like spirit of the age

00:28:45.160 zealotry. And so you have to understand if you live in places like California or New York or

00:28:51.120 Massachusetts, you're not going to get away much longer. Even if you currently are, you're not going

00:28:55.860 to get away with much longer with this place is cray cray, but where I live is okay. No, it won't be.

00:29:01.920 They will seek to put the boot to your throat and impose this on you in a modern day form of the 0.99

00:29:07.180 as fast as they possibly can. You need to get out. You need to look to go to places where the other

00:29:14.720 America, because really these are two completely separate cultures now, just kind of coinciding

00:29:20.740 on a parallel track with each other under the same flag. It's in that culture. I was actually

00:29:25.800 pretty pessimistic earlier this year. I've grown far more optimistic as the year has grown on that

00:29:31.220 we are obtaining the level of frustration and anger, or maybe I should put it righteous indignation.

00:29:37.180 That is necessary for action and not passivity that we're beginning to figure out. We can't just

00:29:42.660 merely wait for the next election cycle and vote our way out of this, that the answer is us. We're

00:29:47.380 going to have to act. And that's why you're seeing the walkouts and the supply chain threats. And dude,

00:29:52.240 I'm the ugly American alley. I'm going to Costco after the show today. One of my favorite places in 0.99

00:29:56.960 America where a bunch of stuff I don't need is right there in bulk. But you know what I think?

00:30:01.460 Let it rain. Bring the pain. I want to see, you know, the word sabotage actually comes from

00:30:08.240 19th century France at the, or in the early industrial, industrial revolution and workers

00:30:14.560 there had no representation, no agency against just beyond despondent working conditions. And so

00:30:20.440 they took off the shoes that were worn by poor, uh, the poor peasants in France, the working class, 0.96

00:30:25.640 they were known as sabots, these, these little wooden shoes. And they took their sabots off.

00:30:29.780 They had nowhere else to go, nothing else to do, no political party, no one would listen to them.

00:30:33.980 And so in order to gum up the works, they took off their shoes and they plunged them into the gears

00:30:38.640 of the machines to grind them to a halt. And that is where the term sabotage comes from. I'm all for,

00:30:45.720 let's re-rack that classic Beastie Boys song from when I was a kid. I'm all for the sabotage.

00:30:50.720 I'm all for the shutdowns. I'm all for making, making this very painful on the spirit of the age,

00:30:56.600 because until it is more painful for them to inflict it upon us than, than it is for the pain

00:31:01.700 they get to inflict on us, it will not change. We have to change that calculus. And I think we're

00:31:07.620 seeing signs now, uh, the amount of attention being paid to things like local school board elections

00:31:12.320 and things of that nature that would have never occurred before. I mean, you know, you and I've

00:31:16.740 worked in this business a long time, me a little longer, just because I'm older than you,

00:31:19.880 but let's face it. A lot of our audiences, kind of our parent, the paradigm was tune into shows like

00:31:25.060 ours, get really worked up and then just wait to vote Republican in the next election. That ain't

00:31:29.760 going to cut it. And, and I think people have figured out this is, this is now a, you know,

00:31:34.840 a participatory sport. I've got to be an active participant in this. And so for, for that reason,

00:31:40.660 I am optimistic. If you though live in those States that are given over and gone to the spirit of the

00:31:46.240 age, if you can get out and sometimes you can't, you're taking care of a loved one,

00:31:49.740 what have you, you're tied into a mortgage. You can't get out from underneath. I'm sympathetic

00:31:53.320 to that. Understand it, man. I started my career working in a mail room. Okay. So I get, you know,

00:31:57.980 taking the dirt road, but if you are in a position where you can get the H double hockey sticks out

00:32:02.280 of those places, do it as soon as absolutely possible. Get out of those States, get out of

00:32:07.760 those jobs, basically get out of the position where you have to succumb to the boot that's on your

00:32:12.740 neck. That's what you're saying. Correct. Amen. And push back against it. I mean,

00:32:16.700 I have people working at corporations, friends who are vaccinated, friends who are unvaccinated,

00:32:21.560 who are both saying, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Okay. I was okay when it was a choice, but now that it's

00:32:26.700 mandated there's, and these are friends, by the way, who are not political. They are not people

00:32:32.800 who speak up about stuff. They don't even post things on social media about the election, but

00:32:37.180 they are seeing stuff like this coming down the pipeline. These vaccine mandates, either they don't

00:32:41.360 think they need it because they have natural immunity, or they just don't like the mandates.

00:32:44.980 And they are starting to stand up, strategize with people who work in the companies with them and

00:32:50.360 are saying, okay, how are we going to take this to the top? How are we going to push back against

00:32:54.760 this? They feel a responsibility even for employees that are lower on the totem pole who also are

00:33:00.820 against these vaccine mandates, but don't necessarily have the voice. So I'm seeing people speak up about

00:33:06.840 these mandates in corporations, in school boards, and elsewhere. So I do agree. Like I want people to get

00:33:13.600 out too, but at the same time, like what we saw in Virginia, what we're seeing in some corporations

00:33:18.020 is that when people stand up within the organizations and within the place, like that can make a

00:33:24.140 difference too. So I don't know the answer. Like, I don't know how to balance that. I want people to

00:33:28.260 get out of those situations, but I also want people to push back.

00:33:32.100 To me, I think, you know, Virginia, since reconstruction, only went blue one time since

00:33:37.380 reconstruction. That was Bill Clinton until Barack Obama came along. It had a Republican governor,

00:33:42.900 not a very good one, but it had a Republican governor just a little more than a decade ago.

00:33:48.100 So we're not talking about a place where, I'll just use the term, paganism. That's really what

00:33:53.500 we're describing here. Sometimes in our enclaves and in our platforms, it gets described as cultural

00:33:59.140 Marxism or communism or progressivism. But really what we're really talking about, if we're going to have

00:34:04.800 just a blunt theological conversation about this, is this is paganism. This is trying to take us back

00:34:10.400 to a pre-Western civilization understanding and view of the world, all right? This is bringing back,

00:34:16.320 you know, the Druid mythology, essentially, and calling it a political ideology. Virginia was not

00:34:23.860 as deeply embedded within that. It was going to be a tough turn, no question. A place like California,

00:34:30.380 we just had a referendum there. We just had an opportunity where the people there could

00:34:34.340 stand up and be heard. They chose not to. Now you know where you stand. Those are the kinds of

00:34:39.880 places I'm talking about. California, New York, Massachusetts, okay, where Texas Democrats are

00:34:45.680 more conservative than Massachusetts Republicans, okay? Those are the kinds of things I'm talking

00:34:50.400 about. If you are in those places, understand you are living in essentially a foreign country.

00:34:56.720 And so you can have nostalgia for it, but all you're doing, your vote doesn't matter,

00:35:00.680 your voice doesn't matter on a statewide basis. All you're really doing with your hard work and your

00:35:05.960 dedication and your good citizenry is all you're really doing is upholding and propelling them from

00:35:11.760 feeling the natural law implosion effects of their pagan beliefs. You're essentially providing,

00:35:17.540 you're a prophylaxis for them. You're protecting them from the consequences of their own actions.

00:35:21.920 Yep. And maybe some people, they can afford to stay in those situations. Maybe they're not even

00:35:29.780 working for a corporation that's forcing it. Maybe they're a freelancer, whatever they feel called

00:35:34.120 to stay and push back. But especially people with kids, it's not worth laying your kids on the altar.

00:35:39.760 It's not worth if you have the choice between living in a free state and a state where your toddler

00:35:45.120 or your first grader is sitting at a desk behind plexiglass and double masked unable to socialize

00:35:53.080 with their friends and have a normal learning experience. It's not worth staying in the places

00:35:57.140 that you just described. All right. That's all we have time for today. There's so much more I could

00:36:01.240 ask you about, but thank you as always for lending your insight. I really appreciate it.

00:36:06.200 Always love coming on and talking to your audience and you, Allie. Thank you.

00:36:09.320 Thank you very much. And everyone should go check out your show, subscribe,

00:36:12.840 watch you, all that good stuff. Thank you, Steve. All right. Take care. God bless.

00:36:20.740 So I want to end today's episode talking about this Tennessee law, the Tennessee legislature,

00:36:26.840 according to my colleague at the Blaze, Daniel Horowitz. He says Tennessee legislature bans

00:36:33.020 vaccine passports and protects doctors who speak out against shots. And so the article says we finally

00:36:38.860 have a red state that is living up to its reputation over the weekend. The Tennessee legislature

00:36:42.820 passed an omnibus COVID freedom bill that places the state on a completely different path to dealing

00:36:49.280 with this virus from the rest of the country. One rooted in science, compassion, liberty and health

00:36:54.460 care freedom. So it includes many of the provisions that we need to right the ship on COVID, certainly

00:36:59.920 much more than any other state has done so far. A few of the provisions in the bill, all governmental

00:37:05.880 and private entities would be barred from requiring proof of having taken COVID shots. They also

00:37:11.500 couldn't take adverse actions or deny employment based on vaccination status provides a cause of

00:37:17.680 action for anyone injured by the vaccine as a result of an employer asking the individual to

00:37:22.980 receive it. That's huge. That's huge. It should be obvious, but many states, I don't think any states

00:37:28.380 have taken that action so far, except in a few circumstances. This bill completely bars any local

00:37:33.480 governmental entity or schools from requiring someone to wear a mask or taking adverse action

00:37:39.400 against people for not covering their faces. We will link one or two of the past episodes that

00:37:45.080 we've done on masks and the lack of data of mask efficacy, mask mandate efficacy, effectiveness

00:37:53.020 that we have, we've talked about before. So we'll link those past episodes in the description to

00:37:58.540 this podcast. So masks can be required under severe conditions, but just for 14 days in medical

00:38:06.160 exemptions must be accepted. It removes any authority of a local health entity or official

00:38:12.780 mayor governmental entity or school to quarantine a person or private business due to COVID-19 for simple

00:38:19.680 exposure to the virus prohibits any healthcare provider from vaccinating a child without parental

00:38:25.060 consent. That's really scary that that needs to even be placed in this bill prohibits all use of

00:38:31.980 state funding to go toward implementation of any federal COVID countermeasure. Lots of things that

00:38:38.060 this particular bill does to protect people's liberty. Again, this is not COVID denial. You heard

00:38:42.960 Steve Dace talk about this. This is not a denial of COVID. Like we understand it's a real virus. We

00:38:48.280 understand it can kill people. I know people who have been very severely affected by this virus.

00:38:53.060 There is actually a celebrity, Christy Swanson, who, as I am recording this, she is in the hospital

00:38:58.100 with COVID pneumonia. This is a real thing. If you believe that, if you see from the data,

00:39:04.340 from the science that has been made publicly available, that you would like to get the vaccine,

00:39:09.800 then you should be able to get the vaccine. No one should judge you for that. No one should say

00:39:13.400 that you're a bad person. Likewise, no one should say that you're a bad person if you choose

00:39:16.980 not to get the vaccine and your life and livelihood should not be ruined because of that particular

00:39:21.920 medical choice. And yet we are seeing, despite all the numbers that are showing that actually

00:39:27.100 hospitalization rates and even death rates and case rates are still high in some of the places

00:39:31.700 where vaccination rates are high, people are still being forced into this decision. And it just doesn't

00:39:36.340 make any sense for thousands of healthcare workers to be denied their employment while apparently we're

00:39:42.260 going through a pandemic because they are not taking a vaccine for a disease that they probably have

00:39:47.820 already acquired natural immunity for. And even if they have it, still has an over 99% survival rate.

00:39:55.420 So it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. We just got to think hard about this. And so good for

00:39:59.620 Tennessee. Good for Tennessee for this bill. There's also Joni Ernst. She's a Republican in Congress.

00:40:06.500 She's a senator and she has introduced legislation aimed at banning funding gain of function research in

00:40:12.980 China. This is something that we know that, unfortunately, Fauci has lied about. And the

00:40:20.300 Fauci Act that she is introducing in the Senate bans U.S. funding for gain of function research in

00:40:25.900 China. Of course, this is something that should have been done a long time ago. It's probably 1.00

00:40:29.280 not going to pass, unfortunately, even though it should be bipartisan. It's really not. This is more

00:40:35.020 of a Republican thing of really trying to discover where this virus came from, why it's affecting people the

00:40:41.440 way that it has, really looking at the data and looking at the measures that can actually be seen

00:40:45.580 as effective. That shouldn't be a Republican thing. It should be a bipartisan thing. Unfortunately,

00:40:50.980 some people are so wedded to the ideological aspects of COVID on the left side of the aisle.

00:40:56.580 Not everyone on the left. There are certainly some heterodox doctors that have come out,

00:41:00.200 you know, in favor of at least having an end goal for mask mandates for kids. But unfortunately,

00:41:05.400 this is highly partisan, even though it should be. But some people are pushing back. Some people

00:41:10.740 are pushing back. And as we have seen in elections this week, that can be highly effective. And so

00:41:17.360 keep on standing up. Keep on speaking up. Keep on, as we say on this show, raising a respectful

00:41:22.560 ruckus because it can matter. It can actually do something. Your kids matter. Them being forced into

00:41:29.680 a vaccine that maybe you're not sure about for, I think, very logical reasons. That's immoral. That's

00:41:34.540 grotesque. You should make your voice heard, if not for yourself, then for the generation that's 0.94

00:41:39.600 coming after us. All right. That's all we've got time for today. We will be back here on Monday.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - November 04, 2021

Ep 518 ｜ Just One Jab to Keep Your Job？ Think Again ｜ Guest： Steve Deace

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