Ep 519 ｜ President Donald Trump on Witch Hunts, Family + Mean Tweets
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Ali Babauta joins me to talk about the latest in the Russia collusion scandal and why the average American should care about it. We also talk about Ariana Grande's abortion, the Travis Scott tragedy, and the Chris Pratt drama.
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Hey, guys. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend.
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Guys, do I have a guest for you. I put on Instagram, I put on Twitter that I had a big
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surprise guest. Biggest interview that I've done. I have interviewed a ton of amazing people,
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but this is definitely the best known guest that I've ever had. Some of you did guess it on
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Instagram, but a lot of you are going to be very surprised. I'm not going to lead you on anymore.
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I'm just going to tell you that after this interview, we're going to talk about a few
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things that don't have to do with politics. We're going to talk about a few cultural stories.
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We'll try to get to the comedian on Saturday Night Live talking about her abortion, my response to
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that, the Travis Scott Astroworld Festival tragedy, and then also the drama that Chris Pratt has
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unintentionally found himself. And so we'll be talking about that after this interview.
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Hi, Mr. President. I'm doing well. How are you?
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Good. You are doing well. I watch you a lot, and you do a great job.
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Thank you so much. Thanks for taking the time to come on and join us. Gosh, there's so much,
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Yes. Okay, first, I've got to get your reaction, which I'm sure you have a lot to say,
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about this bombshell story that a man by the name of Igor Janchenko, I think is how you pronounce it.
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And just pardon me while I kind of catch my audience up a little bit. He was the source
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for the dossier that served as the basis for spying all members of your campaign, the basis for the
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whole Russia collusion investigation. He has been arrested because it has come out that he has lied to
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the FBI. My question for you is, how deep do you think this goes? Who do you think knew that this
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entire dossier was based on total fabrications, Hillary Clinton, James Comey, other FBI agents?
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They all knew. It's incredible that it's finally coming out. Too bad it wasn't done sooner, but
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a lot of good things can happen anyway. But they all knew about it, and Hillary led it,
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and supposedly paid for it, and paid for it big, big money. We're not talking about a little money,
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we're talking about millions and millions of dollars. And the DNC, the Democrat Party,
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they knew about it. So just think about how bad that is, Alibeth, when you think.
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They concocted the scheme of Russia, Russia, Russia. They knew it was a phony. Schiff knew it,
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Hillary knew it, they all knew it. And they went out there and demanded that Trump and his children
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be put in jail. Think of it. So they knew it was a phony deal. They were the ones that colluded with
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Russia, not me. I had nothing to do with Russia, but they did. So they colluded with Russia. They
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built a phony deal. And then they got up in news conference after news conference demanding jail
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for Trump and his children. Think about how sick that is, and how evil it is.
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It's so evil. And a lot of people, believe it or not, a lot of people listening to this
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might not have followed all of the details over the past few years, because it just seems for a lot
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of people too far off. They feel like it doesn't affect their everyday life. But can you explain
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why the average American should care about this story, and everything that we have found out,
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even over the past few weeks, about how much of a farce all of this was?
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Well, first of all, it's totally dishonest. The lying, the cheating, the FISA, you know,
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all of the things that took place in the FISA court, all of the things that happened were,
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it was a con job. It was a con job. And frankly, it was very interesting. It may have not played to
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her benefit. I don't know. I guess we'll never know that. But it was so evil. It was so sick and
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so evil. And they play a vicious game. They play a dirty game. They do it continuously. This has been
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happening from the day I came down the escalator. It's happening in New York, the same kind of stuff.
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It's vicious. And it's dirty. And the lawyers representing the people looking to do things
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are Hillary Clinton's lawyers. These are Hillary Clinton's lawyers in New York that are pushing
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for bad things, which are wrong, by the way, which are totally wrong. But this continues from the day I
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came down the escalator. This has been going on. I call it the witch hunt, the greatest witch hunt of
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all time. And we won. And then we won a second time. We got many, many millions more votes. We
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won a second time. And unfortunately, bad things happened. So we'll find out how that all works out.
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But very bad things happened. But it's really something when you see this. And for those of you
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and many of your listeners, because I know you have rabid listeners, people that enjoy politics,
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you enjoy it less after this. But really think of it. They made up a scheme. They knew it was them
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that made it up. I heard little tidbits years and years ago about Russia. Sir, do you know anything
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about Russia with regard to this stuff? No, I don't have nothing to do with Russia. And after four or
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five people asked me the question, I'd say, huh, what's going on with Russia? It was a concocted sick
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scheme that blew up in their faces. Ultimately, Hillary lost, but it never ends. So her lawyers
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head up investigations. Her lawyers are heading up investigations. This can only happen to me.
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This can only happen to me. This can't happen to anybody else. But actually, I guess it can,
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because a lot of people were hurt. A lot of people were destroyed over a hoax that was started by
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Hillary and by the Democrat Party. It's really sick. Well, that was just one of many narratives
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that were pushed about that was pushed about you by the mainstream media while you were in office.
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And I just have to ask now that you're. Yes. And but now that you're no longer president,
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are you relieved at all that you're not constantly having to deal with the media and confront kind
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of the adversarial attitude that they had toward you while you were in office? Is it nice to kind of
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take a break from that? Well, I still do, though. There's no break. You know, they have
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every lawyer they can imagine going after me for anything they can think of years and years of
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investigations, years and years. And it continues. And look at even the election. An election was won
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in Virginia by a guy that I helped. If I didn't help him, he would have lost in a landslide.
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And they say, oh, we have a new model now. We have a new model. That's not a new model. If I didn't
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help him, he would have lost. He would have lost. The MAGA people were incredible. They all went out
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to vote, but he would have lost in a landslide. And frankly, and but they go to. And it's very
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interesting. I said to myself and I said to people, if he wins, they'll give him credit.
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100%. If he loses, they'll blame me because that was the way. Youngkin. For instance, we had a great
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congressman, Mike from Ohio, I call him. He won the congressional seat. They don't even talk about
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it. He won it by a lot. He won it over a tough Democrat easily. He won it over many Republicans
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getting the nomination. You never even hear about it. They don't talk about it. Right. It's an amazing.
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It's an amazing phenomenon. Think of it. A man became a congressman on Tuesday. You don't even
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read about it. I read stories about other elections that are much smaller, but you don't even read
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about it because he was somebody I supported from the beginning, got him past the primary in a
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landslide, got him past the election in a landslide. He was a great candidate. He's going to be a great
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congressman. They refused to write about it. This is a major congressional race.
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So no break from the false media narratives and kind of the animosity that the media has towards you.
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One thing that I am hoping and I'm sure that you're able to do, and this is switching gears a
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little bit, I'm sure that you're able to spend even more time with your family. And this is something
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that I've wanted to ask you for a long time because I've really admired it about you, that you seem to
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have such strong relationships with your kids and your grandkids, even as you have been so busy your
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entire life building such a successful career. We've got so many moms, especially that listen to
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this podcast, and I think they would just be interested to hear. This is not a political
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question at all, but how have you been able to kind of cultivate and maintain what seem like such
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healthy, strong relationships with all the people in your family?
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Well, I really appreciate the question. I mean, it's such a nice question and it's such an
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important question. Relationships and family have so much to do with success and with happiness and
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everything else. And that's why one of the things that most bothers me, they go after my children
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all the time. My children are good children. They work. They'll always be my children. They're adults
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now, but with the exception of Barron, who's doing very well, but they're my children. And, you know,
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when they go after your children, you take that differently. You take it so personally.
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It's just an amazing, it's just an amazing thing. But the relationship has been so strong and that
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really helps you. You know, when you're going through a time like, I don't think any other
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presidents ever gone through anything like this, where it was hoaxes and they impeached me twice for no
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reason. They just happen to have the votes. Because one thing with the Democrats, they stick
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together. They've got horrible policy, but they stick together. Whether it's good or bad, you know,
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defund the police, no voter ID. I mean, their policies are so bad and yet they stick together.
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It's about the only thing they do well. And they do things on elections that you're not supposed to be
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doing. But, you know, the children really get you by it and I stick with them and they stick with me.
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So the relationship is so important. I think it's it's so important towards success and
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toward happiness. There's no question about it. Yeah. And there's a there's a lot of moms that
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are listening that they've noticed some of the tactics that you're talking about,
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the Democrats sticking together on issues that they really push back against. And
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you mentioned the Virginia election. A lot of a lot of the the support behind Youngkin was also
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these moms going to school board meetings and pushing back against critical race theory and
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things like that. What encouragement do you have for parents who are waking up to a lot of what the
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Democratic Party is pushing? They don't like it and they want to make a difference. They want to push
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back. What's what's your encouragement for them? Well, I thought the moms were incredible and
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actually fathers, too. There were a lot of fathers out there. I would watch those rallies and
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Loudon and I would watch the, you know, different the school boards and some of these school beds.
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You say, where do they get these people? These people are like evil. Where do they have they get
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on? And I think you're going to see that change. The the moms have been fantastic and they have been
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unbelievable and they've been unrelenting and they see what's happening. Don't forget, I wrote out
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during my administration all of this horrible stuff that they were teaching to our military and to our
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federal employees and to schools. I took it all out. I wrote it out. Now, the day they came back in,
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they put it back in and it's really bad stuff. And they have people getting paid hundreds of thousands
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of dollars a year to teach this nonsense. But it's not nonsense to them. The really good thing,
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I mean, it's just coming out more and more how bad it is. Now they try and say that the CRTO,
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no, there is none. It's all in your imagination. No, it's not in the imagination. It's there and
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it would have gotten worse. I just don't know if people are going to allow it to happen now. It's
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just so bad. But the moms and dads did a fantastic job. I agree with that.
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Yep. Now, a lot of these, a lot of these moms, a large portion of them, suburban women in particular,
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support you. Now, a complaint that sometimes you hear from this particular demographic,
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I represent that demographic. And a lot of people who are like me, you know, I voted for you twice,
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but some people who said, you know, I like him, I like his policies, but his tweets bother me or his
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rhetoric bothers me. He's a little bit too harsh. And in their minds, they're like, oh, Joe Biden is
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so sweet and gentile and whatever it is. Do you have any regrets or would you change anything about
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your rhetoric, about your tweets that may have turned off some suburban women from voting for
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you? So the main thing, it's very interesting. I was under siege. The country was under siege.
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We were both under siege. Everybody was when I first came in. First of all, they started with
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phony investigations. The Russia, Russia, Russia was a phony investigation. The Mueller witch hunt
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turned out to be no collusion whatsoever. I got impeached twice for no reason whatsoever.
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I got impeached for a phone call congratulating somebody for being elected president to his country,
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Ukraine, and so many different things. So we were under siege. And yet I think nobody's done
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more as a president. I rebuilt the military. I got the largest tax cut in history,
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largest regulation cuts in history, created Space Force. I mean, we did so much. And I also,
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by the way, got the strongest border we've ever had, independent. We got energy independence. Think
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of that. Energy independence. And now energy is going fuel. I read this morning in certain parts
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of California, $7.70 a gallon. When I left, it was $1.83. And now it's even everywhere else. I mean,
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it's going to catch up to California pretty soon because we don't have oil. We don't have fuel.
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We stopped doing things that we were doing. We were bigger than Saudi Arabia, bigger than Russia. We
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would have been bigger than both of them combined if we kept going. And we had good, clean, beautiful
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energy. And it's a shame what happened. Now we're going to OPEC. I see where they're putting calls
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for OPEC to help us. I filled up the national strategic reserves. I watched Maria Bartiroma
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this morning, who I think is terrific, by the way. And she was saying that President Trump filled up the
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strategic reserves. Many, many presidents let that go. And they were virtually empty. And I filled it up
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with very inexpensive oil. We filled it up. I mean, I filled it up at a level that nobody can believe
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right to the top. Now Biden wants to use that to try and get the energy prices down. The problem is
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the oil price and the gasoline price. The problem with that is that that was used. That's there.
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These are strategic reserves. That's used for an emergency. And again, many, many presidents,
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because it's expensive, but I got a great deal. I got it when energy was at its lowest. I made a deal.
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We filled it up. It also kept the energy companies, the oil companies going because we
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had a going, I mean, at a level that nobody's ever seen before. So we had inexpensive energy. We had,
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everybody was working. We created the greatest economy in the history of our country, but
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I didn't have that much time. And again, we were under attack from the Democrats more so than anything
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else. But other countries didn't like that. I was renegotiating trade deals. It was so bad.
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You know, it's an America first policy that was so bad for America. And I guess I could have taken
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an edge off, but you know, when you have that much work to do, you don't have that time for the
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niceties, but I think they do appreciate the niceties. And I'll tell you one thing I did for
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suburban, you know, I call it the suburban moms. I stopped low income housing from being built
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right next to the house. And that was a big thing. And I never believed that I lost suburbia.
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I never believed it. And to this day, I don't believe it.
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Yeah. So what you're saying is that people should be mostly focusing on the policies that you put in
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place while you were in office that benefited us rather than maybe some of the tweets that they
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I was a hard worker and you don't have that much time. There were so many things to do.
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There was so much wrong. Now, unfortunately, you know, what they've done is they're destroying
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our country. We have millions and millions of people flowing into our country. We have no idea
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where they're from. Forget about the mask and all of the other problems that, you know, when you look
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at when you look at everybody has to be vaccinated except them. They're the only people don't have to
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be, you know, donate. Don't even think. How about giving them $450,000 each? How about how about
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that one? OK, 450,000. But veterans that are living on the streets get nothing. OK, it's it's sick.
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It's a sick. Yeah, it's a sick policy. It's sick. Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
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Yeah. So when people say to me, gee, I wish you were a little bit nicer. Actually, I think I was
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nicer, but the end result was nicer because we produced pre-COVID and then I got it going again
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after COVID. We produced the greatest, the single greatest economy in the history of the world.
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Yep. I think that we're seeing the consequences right now of people voting for something maybe
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as superficial as, you know, something like tweets. But the policies are the things that do the
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destroying. And that is certainly what we're seeing right now. All right. Final question.
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The tweets did get the word out. The tweets got the word out. That's true. And a lot of
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people loved them. I mean, they got the word out. And a lot of people didn't like to hear the word,
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but the tweets got the word out. And now we're going to have our own site, which I think will
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be fantastic. But in January, we're sometime like that. Yes, people are excited about that.
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You know, by by putting that out, we were able to tell people what was going on. And it wasn't always
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pleasant. So I can understand that. But, you know, I do think they served a good purpose.
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Don't forget, we got almost 75 million votes, probably much more than that. But we got 75
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million votes. No president, no sitting president ever got near that 12 million more votes than we
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got last time. No president's ever gotten anywhere near 12 million votes. Usually they get less votes.
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Even if they win, they get less votes. I was told if I got the same number, I couldn't lose.
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And I got 12 million more. So we got all these votes. And so people say, oh, gee, I wonder if
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you I said, look, you know, I got 75 million votes. You understand a lot of bad things happened.
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Well, Mr. President, thank you so much. And I guess my last question is the question that you're
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getting all the time. Are you running again? Well, I think you're going to be very happy.
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Let me put it that way. You know, I'm not allowed to talk about it for campaign finance reasons.
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And the campaign finance laws are really ridiculous. But I think you're going to be
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very happy. And I think your audience is going to be very happy. And I love our country. And we put
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America first and we make America great again. Now we have to make America great again, again.
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You know, I say it again, again, because we made it great. But we're gonna have to do it again.
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And so but I think people will be very happy. Well, thank you so much, Mr. President. I really
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appreciate you taking the time to come on. And thank you very much. You have a great show. And
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you do a great job. We appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much.
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Okay, guys, I hope you enjoyed that conversation. I so enjoyed talking to President Trump. We have
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been trying to get that interview for a very long time. My team has been very persistent in trying
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to get him on the show when he was gracious enough to give me a few minutes of his very busy morning.
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So I hope you guys enjoyed that. All right, so I first want to talk about Astroworld. So this is a
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festival that's put on by the singer slash rapper Travis Scott. I can't say that I am the number one
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Travis Scott fan. Like I don't I don't know if I could actually list any of his songs. But the reason
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that we're talking about this is because this was a big story from over the weekend. It was trending.
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And maybe you know, Travis Scott more as the father of Kylie Jenner's children, Kylie Jenner. They have
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one like two year old maybe. And then she is also pregnant, but he's a very popular artist. People love
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him. And so he had a festival over the weekend in Houston, Texas. And he's had these before. And I think
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that there have there have been stories like the one that we are about to talk about previously,
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previously, too. And the story is that eight people are dead. Dozens more are injured. And
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it has to do there's apparently a variety of factors playing into this. But the 50,000 people that were
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there when Travis Scott got on stage, they rushed towards the stage and some people got trampled.
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Some people died of a heart attack because you can imagine the prospect of being trampled and feeling
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claustrophobic, not knowing how you're going to be able to escape the crowd can cause really high
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stress and can cause someone to actually suffer from cardiac arrest. But there are some there are
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some other things that are going on there. Apparently, as a police officer who was delivering a press
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conference, said there was apparently someone going around with some kind of mixture of drugs
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and actually injecting it into people's body, like into people's neck. Now, I don't know. Obviously,
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I wasn't there. I'm not able to verify that. That is the report that I saw of one police officer
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that people were actually passing out after they were forcibly injected with drugs. 17 people were taken
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into the hospital. So I'm guessing we'll probably learn more from those reports. One attendee wrote
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this on Instagram. The rush of people became tighter and tighter. Breathing became something
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only a few were capable of. The rest were crushed or unable to breathe in the thick, hot air. It was
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like watching a Jenga tower topple. Person after person were sucked down. You were at the mercy of the
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wave. We begged security to help us for the performer to see us and know something was wrong. None of that
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came. We continued to drown. I mean, that is terrifying. If that sounds like a form of hell,
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that's because I truly think that there is something demonic that goes on at these festivals.
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People have actually, and we'll put this up on YouTube, if you're watching on YouTube,
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people have actually showed that Astroworld, how it is designed. And if you're listening,
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it's like there's this huge, I don't even know how tall it is, maybe like 40 feet high
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statue, like the entrance of the Astroworld festival is Travis Scott's face, his head.
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And then you're like entering through what looks like his mouth. People have been pointing out on
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social media that there is an old depiction of hell that actually looks very similar. So
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is it intentional? Is this supposed to look demonic? Is this supposed to look like some version of hell?
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We've actually seen people playing around with the demonic and the satanic as far as the themes of
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their videos and their music goes, especially recently. Lil Nas X coming out with his satanic
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shoes and he had a music video where Satan was a central character. We talked about that when it
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happened. We can link that previous episode to this. If this is intentionally satanic,
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then that's certainly not the first time even recently an artist has tried to reflect the demonic.
00:25:16.380
And so I don't think that we can be surprised when people are basically enabling, encouraging
00:25:24.300
Satan worship, if that's what's going on here, when there are not just spiritual oppressive forces
00:25:31.900
at place, but also physically oppressive forces at play. We see destruction and death when we see
00:25:40.380
sin glorified. Certainly, I think that we can see that there was idolatry at play here. For someone to
00:25:47.040
become so animalistic, to lose their sense of rationality when they're at a concert, that they
00:25:53.040
would rush towards a stage with a human being on it whose music, I guess, they worship in some way,
00:26:00.140
or maybe who as an individual people worship, that they would be able to risk or be willing to risk
00:26:05.380
their lives and the lives of people around them. Like, even if this wasn't intentionally, you know,
00:26:10.700
some kind of Satan worshiping ritual, there is something certainly demonic in the idolatry that
00:26:18.380
we see at play here. And we know that Satan comes to steal, kill, and destroy. And that's what
00:26:24.320
happened. At the very least, at the very least, like, if you don't want to go with me down the
00:26:28.060
spiritual path, okay. At the very least, it's irresponsible. There should have been more security.
00:26:32.820
There should have been better barriers. There should have been some rules at play. I don't know
00:26:38.140
if Travis Scott himself is culpable, but if everything kind of rises and falls on leadership,
00:26:44.280
then certainly he should be ensuring that there are these kinds of barriers, boundaries in place to
00:26:49.840
try to stop things like this from happening. There have been many big concerts with tens of
00:26:53.940
thousands of people attending them before where things like this don't happen. And like I said,
00:26:58.980
things like this have happened in the past. There are actually videos that came out on social media
00:27:02.800
of Travis Scott several years ago actually encouraging the crowd to beat up other people in the crowd.
00:27:09.840
And so when you look at that, it does seem like, okay, maybe there is some culpability on
00:27:15.620
his shoulders. He did release a statement that says, I'm absolutely devastated by what took place
00:27:22.100
last night. My prayers go out to the families and all those impacted by what happened at Astroworld
00:27:27.320
Festival. Houston PD has my total support as they continue to look into the tragic loss of life.
00:27:32.740
I'm committed to working together with the Houston community to heal and support the families in
00:27:36.580
need. Thank you to Houston PD, Fire Department, NRG Park for their immediate response and support.
00:27:42.900
Love you all. And Kylie Jenner also said that apparently her that she and Travis Scott
00:27:49.380
didn't know about the loss of life until the next day long after the event. She claims that Travis Scott
00:27:56.180
didn't see or didn't really know what was going on. And, you know, maybe that's true. But you've got
00:28:02.320
all these young people who went to a concert thinking that they were just going to have fun. Young people
00:28:07.720
very often think that they're invincible, that they would be able to rush a crowd and survive a
00:28:12.640
stampede of 50,000 people. And now their lives are over. I mean, we're talking probably teenagers,
00:28:18.300
people in their early 20s. Their families don't have a sister, a brother, a daughter, a son. Their
00:28:25.920
friends have lost a part of their community. I mean, that is devastating. And all for what? For what?
00:28:32.520
To idolize a singer who is just a fallible human being like everyone else? I mean, man,
00:28:37.560
idolatry kills. It's one thing to enjoy a concert. That's fine. But seeing the kind of animalistic
00:28:42.680
behavior that we saw at this show, like I said earlier, I think does speak to a form of, if not
00:28:48.620
demonic activity, certainly just darkness and idol worship, which I guess in a sense is all satanic
00:28:57.220
in a way. All right. Now I want to talk about this SNL clip that was going around. It was going
00:29:05.060
viral on Twitter. There were a lot of pro-abortion people that were applauding it. There is a woman
00:29:10.360
by the name of Cecily Strong. I haven't heard of her before, but that doesn't mean that much. I'm
00:29:15.660
not that plugged into Hollywood and certainly the people who profess to be comedians. I'm not paying
00:29:22.620
that much attention. But there are a lot of people who are fans of her and they applauded her for
00:29:27.240
acting like a clown on SNL and talking about an abortion that she got when she was 23. I will spare
00:29:34.720
you the entire clip, but I'll show you just a little bit of it so you know what I'm talking about.
00:29:38.880
I know I wouldn't be a clown on TV here today if it weren't for the abortion I had the day before my
00:29:43.760
23rd birthday. Clowns have been helping each other and their pregnancy since the caves. It's going to
00:29:48.860
happen so it ought to be safe, legal, and accessible. We will not go back to the alley.
00:29:53.680
I mean, the last thing anyone wants is a bunch of dead clowns in a dark alley.
00:29:57.360
So she goes on and on like that for a few minutes. Basically, she is trying to say she's saying that,
00:30:05.120
oh, clowns get abortions. Clowns need abortions. I wouldn't be a clown on TV if it weren't for a
00:30:10.620
clown abortion. So I guess they're trying to make the slaughter of unborn children funny.
00:30:15.500
I have a really hard time. Well, one, of course, I have a really hard time
00:30:20.720
seeing any humor in abortion. I mean, you're literally talking about killing a baby. What's
00:30:25.760
funny about that? She says that she is acting like a clown to make it more palatable. She says that
00:30:31.120
it's a rough subject and so she has to act like a clown, which that in itself is so telling.
00:30:36.260
If you can't talk about what abortion actually is, if you can't talk about the subject of abortion
00:30:41.200
without using euphemisms, as we've talked about so many times, without trying to turn
00:30:46.120
it into a joke, then don't you see that's probably because you're feeling a little defensive about it
00:30:51.180
because, you know, talking about what an abortion actually is, which is not just the ending of a
00:30:55.920
pregnancy, which is what she says in her little silly monologue, but it's actually ending the life
00:31:01.180
of the baby. If you can't talk about something realistically, if you can't talk about something
00:31:05.280
soberly, if you can't talk about what a procedure is, then why are you supporting it? Like maybe
00:31:11.800
you're on the wrong side. If your side can only be supported with euphemisms, with rhetorical games,
00:31:19.180
and with ridiculous jokes that aren't even funny. And that's the thing that I always say is that if
00:31:27.960
you're on the side that can use plain language, if you're on the side that you can say the truth
00:31:35.700
and the truth actually helps you, you can talk about the gory details of something, and that
00:31:40.660
actually helps your side, then you're probably on the right side. Like I have no fear of talking about
00:31:47.520
what an abortion is, as we have detailed many times on this podcast. It is brutal. It is grotesque.
00:31:52.540
It is painful. It is nothing other than killing a human being, killing a baby. You can call that
00:32:00.120
baby a fetus. That's fine. You can even call the baby a zygote at a certain stage. That's fine.
00:32:04.940
None of that changes what an abortion is, which is killing a human being. And then on the other side,
00:32:10.320
you see all of these euphemisms. You get people literally acting like clowns to be able to talk
00:32:14.720
about it because there is no way to actually make abortion not barbaric. There's no way to make this
00:32:21.200
subject actually palatable. Now, I want to touch on this claim that Strong makes that if abortion is
00:32:33.040
going to happen anyway, which she claims that it's always going to, then we might as well just make
00:32:37.180
it safe. That we don't want to outlaw abortion because people are going to get abortions and
00:32:41.980
outlawing abortion just outlaw safe abortion. That's what we hear. And people are just going to
00:32:47.000
use hangers and back alleys if we outlaw abortion. So let's at least make it safe for women. First of
00:32:52.100
all, let's point out the illogic of that statement. If something is wrong, it's wrong. We shouldn't
00:32:58.160
refuse to outlaw something because we are scared about the danger of the person or the threat that
00:33:07.480
it might pose to the person that is committing the crime. That's like saying, oh, well, we should
00:33:11.720
just make people are going to rape anyway. People are going to murder anyway. People are going to
00:33:15.600
steal anyway. And so we might as well make it safer for the person who is doing the murdering or the
00:33:20.800
raping or the stealing by not making it illegal. That's silly. Like that doesn't make sense.
00:33:25.860
We're not just when we say that abortion should be illegal. We're not just talking about reducing the
00:33:30.520
instance of abortion. We're not just talking about making it less likely. Of course, that's part of the
00:33:35.100
goal of the pro-life anti-abortion movement. Absolutely. We want to make abortion unthinkable,
00:33:40.140
which means there are a variety of tools in our tool belt to try to reduce the number of abortions
00:33:45.340
and reduce the desire to have an abortion. Absolutely. But that's not the only or I would
00:33:51.500
say even the primary driver of the pro-life movement. It is also about recognizing the dignity,
00:34:00.300
the humanity of life inside the womb. Because we believe babies inside the womb are human beings,
00:34:05.880
we believe that they are entitled to fundamental rights. The most fundamental being the right to
00:34:12.920
life, the right not to be murdered as an innocent, defenseless human being. That is the most fundamental
00:34:19.260
right that any human being has. And we believe that that should be granted to all humans, including
00:34:24.960
humans inside the womb. And there really is no logic behind saying, oh yeah, humans have a right to life
00:34:31.540
except for that human in the womb. Why? Because of location, because of size, because of dependency,
00:34:36.620
because of age. Those seem like all very flippant reasons to justify killing someone. And so the reason
00:34:44.660
why we believe that abortion should be illegal is not just because it actually does reduce the number
00:34:49.620
of abortions, but also because we think the law should recognize a fact that a human being inside the
00:34:57.920
womb is indeed a human being and is therefore entitled to fundamental human rights. And so, again,
00:35:06.100
the logic of, well, it's just going to happen anyway, so let's just make it legal so it can be safe,
00:35:10.940
that just doesn't really hold up. But also, there is a myth going on here. And the myth is that before
00:35:17.980
abortion was legal, before Roe v. Wade, everyone was having these back alley abortions,
00:35:22.760
and people were using coat hangers. Certainly that did happen, but this idea that it was so
00:35:28.360
prevalent and then Roe v. Wade happened and all of a sudden abortion was safe for the woman. First
00:35:32.720
of all, abortion is never safe because it actually intends to kill a person. So it's never safe.
00:35:38.460
Abortion is never, ever safe because it either seriously injures a human being inside the womb
00:35:44.900
and the mother, or it kills the human being inside the womb and injures the mother, or at the very least,
00:35:51.580
it kills the human being inside the womb. So abortion is never safe. But this idea that it's
00:35:56.340
safer for the woman when abortion is legal is a myth. This is reported by Live Action. Live Action
00:36:03.240
is a pro-life organization that does so much good work in this arena. And they report on Dr. Bernard
00:36:12.800
Nathanson. He was the co-founder of NARAL. That is a large abortion organization that obviously still
00:36:20.160
exists to this day. He discusses how the abortion industry purposely fabricated the number of illegal
00:36:25.400
abortions prior to Roe v. Wade. So Nathanson admitted that fictional polls were created in order
00:36:32.280
to convince the public of the need for legal abortion. We'll include the link to this article
00:36:37.220
in the description. This is according to a book that he wrote. He said abortion activists sold Americans
00:36:42.120
the lie that thousands of women were dying annually from back alley abortions when the actual figure
00:36:47.700
was in the hundreds. Knowing that if a poll were taken, we should be soundly defeated. We simply
00:36:54.760
fabricated the results of fictional polls, Nathanson said. We announced to the media that we had taken
00:37:01.500
polls and that 60% of Americans were in favor of permissive abortion. This is the tactic of the
00:37:07.180
self-fulfilling lie. Few people care to be in the minority. So not only did they lie about the fact that
00:37:12.840
all of these thousands of women were dying of back alley abortions before Roe v. Wade, they also lied
00:37:19.060
about this statistic that 60% of Americans are in favor of permissive abortion, hoping that that would
00:37:25.620
psychologically trick people into then supporting abortion because no one wants to be in the minority.
00:37:30.080
No one wants to be what is seen as some kind of extremist. That's just something to keep in mind,
00:37:36.080
a principle that probably applies in a lot of different ways. It goes on to say,
00:37:40.840
we aroused enough sympathy to sell our program of permissive abortion by fabricating the number
00:37:45.220
of illegal abortions done annually in the U.S. The actual figure was approaching 100,000,
00:37:50.240
but the figure we gave to the media repeatedly was 1 million. Repeating the big lie often enough
00:37:55.520
convinces the public. The number of women dying from illegal abortions was around 200 to 250 people
00:38:01.220
annually. The figure constantly fed to the media was 10,000. And so then he also talks about
00:38:06.760
that took root in the consciousness of Americans. It convinced them that they had to crack abortion
00:38:13.020
law because all of these tens of thousands of women were dying of abortions. He says the annual
00:38:18.140
number of abortions has increased by 1,500% since legalization. So 1,500% annual abortions have
00:38:27.560
increased since it was legalized in the 1970s. And also this idea that keeping abortion legal and low
00:38:35.780
regulation around abortion keeps women safe, that's not true. Abortion centers today, there was one
00:38:41.660
that was reported on in New York City, they're inspected less than tanning salons. And so actually
00:38:46.960
there are plenty of cases. For example, Kermit Gosnell, there was another case that we talked about,
00:38:54.580
I think that it was in Indiana, where grotesque practices by abortionists, not just killing these
00:39:00.800
babies up to, you know, 42 weeks gestation, but also using unsanitary practices on mothers. Mothers
00:39:08.340
were then dying of these infections. This has happened just in the past few years. So this is
00:39:12.900
happening around the country. These abortion mills are not being inspected. So it's actually safe
00:39:17.920
for no one. Afterabortion.org says prior to legalization, 90% of illegal abortions were done
00:39:25.420
by physicians. And so this idea that people were just using hangers in the back alley,
00:39:30.340
that's actually not true. Most of the remainder were done by nurses, midwives, or others with at
00:39:35.160
least some medical training. So even before Roe v. Wade, people were still able to find some kind
00:39:42.360
of medical professional to perform their abortion. Even Planned Parenthood's own leading statisticians
00:39:49.320
admitted that the official statistics on deaths resulting from illegal abortion were very
00:39:53.520
were very accurately reported prior to 1973. In 1972, there were only 39 maternal deaths related
00:40:01.680
to illegal abortion, not the thousands proclaimed by pro-abortionists. So the point is, is that this
00:40:08.680
idea that thousands of women were dying from back alley abortions before Roe v. Wade is just not true.
00:40:14.860
It's just not true. Now, maybe that would be more true today because abortion has been so normalized
00:40:20.320
and women think that they have to sacrifice their children in order to be successful. I mean,
00:40:26.220
talk about demonic activity like we were talking about with Astroworld. I mean, literally sacrificing
00:40:32.440
your children to Malak for what? A mediocre comedic career? I don't even know this lady. Like, was it
00:40:40.100
worth killing your child when you were 23 years old to get the career that you have? I've never even
00:40:45.480
heard of you. And that child had to sacrifice their life for this so you could play a clown
00:40:52.140
on television? That's worth it to you? I mean, talk about demonic. Talk about satanic. I mean,
00:40:57.680
satanic. I mean, I feel bad for her in a sense because she's been deceived like so many women have
00:41:03.140
that you have to kill your child in order to be successful or be fulfilled in life. It's just not
00:41:10.340
true. It's just not true. And look, we can talk about all of the different policy proposals
00:41:14.260
and all of the different ways that we can create a culture of life and we can make sure that women
00:41:19.360
are taken care of so they don't feel like they have to sacrifice their children. Some women truly
00:41:24.660
are in desperate situations. I understand that. We can talk about all of those things, but let's
00:41:28.920
start at the fact that a human being in the womb is a human being and shouldn't be discarded for our
00:41:33.540
convenience or for any reason. It's not a laughing matter. People haven't been laughing at SNL for a
00:41:38.980
long time, but certainly when they try to make abortion into some kind of jest, it's just
00:41:44.140
so dark. It's so dark. And the truth is worth adhering to and it's worth talking about because
00:41:53.180
when it comes to abortion, the truth is on our side. So just be confident in that. When they're
00:41:59.240
having to make a joke of it, it's probably because they're insecure about just the immorality
00:42:07.240
and the shakiness of their position. All right. I just wanted to just quickly talk about this Chris
00:42:15.280
this Chris Pratt story because some of you were asking me about this and apparently became this big
00:42:20.500
drama on social media. And I was surprised by it because I didn't see anything wrong with the post,
00:42:27.780
but I'll get into why some people had had some trouble with it. We've just got all kinds of
00:42:32.520
celebrity news today. So Chris Pratt, who I like, I like all of his characters. We're Parks and Rec
00:42:38.780
fans in our family. And so, of course, we like Andy Dwyer and we just find him very likable. He has
00:42:44.580
been very supportive of the police, of the military. I don't know if he's an out-and-out Republican or
00:42:48.900
social conservative or anything like that, but he has talked about his faith before. He seems more
00:42:53.620
on the conservative side and you don't see that a lot in Hollywood. And so he's got a fan base,
00:42:59.000
I would say, spanning across the aisle. But in recent years, a lot of conservatives have
00:43:03.460
appreciated him kind of standing apart from the wokeness that we see in Hollywood. Well,
00:43:08.920
he was married before to Anna Faris. They have a son. Their son has pretty severe health issues. I
00:43:15.960
think he was born premature. He's had health issues since birth. He and Anna Faris got a divorce and now
00:43:21.080
he is married to Katherine Schwarzenegger. And they have a daughter together. I think she just gave birth
00:43:28.580
not too long ago. So he posted a picture with his wife, Katherine Schwarzenegger. She's looking up
00:43:34.200
at him and adoringly. And he says this in his caption, guys, for real, look how she's looking at
00:43:40.360
me. I mean, find you somebody that looks at you like that. You know, we met in church. She's given
00:43:44.960
me an amazing life, a gorgeous, healthy daughter. She chews so loudly that sometimes I put my earbuds
00:43:49.520
in to drown it out. But that's love. She helps me with everything. In return, periodically, I open a jar
00:43:54.280
of pickles. That's the trade. Her heart is pure and it belongs to me. My greatest treasure right next
00:43:58.440
to my Ken Griffey Jr. Upper Deck rookie card, which if you know, you know is saying a lot.
00:44:03.480
It's her birthday in about six weeks. So if I don't get her anything, I'll tell her to look back
00:44:07.300
on this post. Love you, honey. I thought it was funny. He is a funny guy. He plays a lot of funny
00:44:12.940
characters. So obviously there was some seriousness sprinkled in with some humor. I thought that it was
00:44:18.900
pretty cute. Now, of course, as a Christian, am I sad about the entire situation with divorce and a
00:44:24.980
child that is, you know, with his previous wife. Divorce is always messy. The Christian church is
00:44:32.060
very clear about marriage and how two are becoming one and we are not to let man separate what God has
00:44:42.480
joined together. And so scripture is very clear about that. So whenever there is divorce, whenever
00:44:46.860
especially there's a child involved, of course, there is a tragic aspect to it. But even if we're not
00:44:53.100
looking at that, we're just, you know, looking at this particular post, is there anything problematic
00:44:57.500
with it? Some people thought so because he emphasized healthy daughter. They thought that
00:45:03.600
maybe he was taking a shot at his son with Anna Faris. And people thought that he was just kind of
00:45:12.180
being creepy, saying that Catherine Schwarzenegger's heart belongs to him. I think just the lesson that
00:45:18.560
we learn from this and some people are calling it cringy and people just don't like him because he's
00:45:22.740
maybe moderate or center right or whatever. I think it just goes to show that people are always
00:45:27.480
going to hyper scrutinize everything people online say. They're going to take it out of context.
00:45:33.780
They're going to try to apply meaning to it that just isn't there. And something that I do really
00:45:38.620
appreciate about Chris Pratt is that, you know what, like he's not going to apologize to people that
00:45:46.720
are criticizing him for reasons that he sees as pretty baseless. Apparently, he was sad about it.
00:45:53.540
He was sad about the pushback that he was getting. But he just said that, you know, all glory to God,
00:46:03.460
I'm not going to let these haters get me down. And you know what? Good for anyone who simply stands by
00:46:11.200
the things that they said and the things that they meant to say. If you weren't trying to be
00:46:15.360
offensive, if it honestly wasn't offensive, then there's really no reason to apologize for something
00:46:21.060
that you're not truly sorry for. And we just don't know. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes.
00:46:26.980
Maybe he has a great relationship with Anna Faris. I have no idea who are we to even talk about this
00:46:31.560
kind of stuff. Again, I think the theme is like people care too much about celebrity opinions,
00:46:38.400
and that it consumes their mind and it consumes their lives. And we just think too much about it.
00:46:44.060
We think too much about it. All right. That's all I have time for today. There's a lot more that I
00:46:48.720
could talk about, but we'll have to get into it tomorrow. Tomorrow, we've got Ben Shapiro. We're
00:46:52.640
talking about the vaccine mandate and everything that goes into that. So we will see you back here then.