Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 522 ｜ SPECIAL EPISODE： The Truth About Kyle Rittenhouse

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. This episode, as you can tell, is coming out

00:00:15.240 a little bit later than usual. It's been a crazy day behind the scenes. This is going

00:00:22.000 to be a very intense episode. We are talking about Kyle Rittenhouse and that trial. If

00:00:27.000 you have no idea what I'm talking about, Kyle Rittenhouse was the 17-year-old kid. He's

00:00:30.900 from Illinois. He went to Kenosha, Wisconsin to defend some businesses against the very

00:00:35.420 violent riots that were there. The riots, as you'll hear me talk about with Elijah Schaefer,

00:00:41.520 who was actually there, were in response to the shooting of Jacob Blake by a police officer.

00:00:48.480 I'll explain that to refresh your memory about what happened. He's on trial for first-degree

00:00:54.040 murder and some other charges as well. There's a lot of corruption when it comes to this trial

00:00:58.420 and how it's being prosecuted. The prosecution doesn't have a very good case. It's looking

00:01:02.720 like it will be self-defense. But what we're watching is the media, big business, big tech,

00:01:09.520 and really the Democratic activist mafia try to ruin a kid's life and to hoist up the people that

00:01:18.420 he shot as some kind of heroes when they are so far from that. And the actual situation of what

00:01:23.620 happened is so not being depicted by the media. And it is so frustrating. So we're going to talk

00:01:31.160 to Elijah. He is a host at the Police TV. He is going to set the scene. He's going to tell us not

00:01:37.460 just what happened in Kenosha, but also what was really happening at these riots across the country

00:01:41.740 that we have basically been told to just ignore, that we've basically been fed this lie that they

00:01:47.080 were really about social justice and that they were justified in some way. He was there. And so

00:01:53.800 this is going to be a disturbing episode. There's just no way around that. And it's going to be hard

00:02:00.500 to listen to some parts of it. But the hope that I have is that this is going to wake you up to what's

00:02:07.180 really going on. After the interview that I have with Elijah, I've got my own monologue. I feel very

00:02:13.960 similarly to how I felt after watching then Judge Kavanaugh's name being dragged through the mud by

00:02:22.700 salacious rumors, many of which ended up being disproven, namely that he was guilty of gang rape.

00:02:29.840 That was a complete and total fabrication. The people who spread that lie did not care. They never

00:02:34.180 apologized. And as I'll talk about at the end of this episode, that's a pattern. That's a pattern.

00:02:38.860 We can't get into all of the details of the trial today. You'll have to trust us that the prosecution

00:02:46.220 doesn't have a case, that the defense has done a good job. And we're not going to be able to play

00:02:52.640 all the clips that I wanted to play just because this is going to be a long episode. As it is,

00:02:57.680 this is going to be a little bit controversial. Like some of the things that are said, some people are

00:03:01.640 going to see it as controversial. You guys know, you know, I am, I am always willing to talk to all

00:03:09.400 kinds of people and hear all kinds of perspectives. I really appreciate what Elijah is going to say

00:03:16.820 today. You might not agree with everything that he says, and that's okay. Just realize he was on the

00:03:22.420 ground. So he has a different perspective and a more up close perspective than either of us do. And

00:03:28.220 I'll tell him we don't necessarily land in the same place and all of this stuff. And yet I have to

00:03:32.340 respect the fact that he knows more about what actually went on in Kenosha that night than I do.

00:03:40.300 So we're going to get into all of it. Now, next week, it's going to be more lighthearted. Okay.

00:03:46.800 Next week and the week after that, we've got some prerecorded episodes that we have already recorded

00:03:52.480 interviews with all kinds of people. We've got Seth Dillon from the Babylon Bee.

00:03:57.420 We have Hilary Ferrer of Mama Bear Apologetics, and we've got Bridget Phetasy. We've got all kinds

00:04:05.820 of very uplifting, encouraging, important conversations that are going to play over the

00:04:11.400 next two weeks before Thanksgiving that are really going to edify you. I'm sorry that we're

00:04:16.900 ending this week on such a somber and serious note, but it's so important. Like this episode is so

00:04:21.240 important. And I just know right now it's going to be one of my most popular episodes because of the

00:04:25.160 important things that are going to be said. So let me go ahead and get into this interview

00:04:29.100 without further ado. Here is Elijah Schaefer.

00:04:33.160 Elijah, thank you so much for joining us. Tell everyone about the shows that you host here at

00:04:37.660 Blaze TV. Well, of course, they are for mature audiences. I just want to let you know that.

00:04:42.780 I run a podcast called Slightly Offensive on Wednesdays and Fridays at two o'clock where we just

00:04:46.920 laugh at the world. So if you're looking for a dose of laughing, again, I'd say if you're 16 or

00:04:51.080 older. And if you don't like cursing, that one is censored. But I also have a five day a week live

00:04:57.400 show called You Are Here that essentially just tries to make sense of the world. I do want to

00:05:01.400 warn you, though, it is uncensored and there is mature topics. But if you are into that and you

00:05:05.660 want to know what's going on in the world, check them out.

00:05:08.600 OK, so for those who don't know, you ran into the fire, the proverbial fire, the chaos last summer

00:05:14.240 when there were, well, I guess literal fire, too, because there were riots that were going on.

00:05:19.160 There was looting. There was arson. There was all kinds of chaos and crime that was really glossed

00:05:23.680 over by the mainstream media. You were actually there at a lot of those riots. And specifically,

00:05:29.000 you were there in Kenosha, correct? Yeah, actually, I was there. It's kind of funny

00:05:34.620 that you mentioned that because I was in Kenosha by accident. Oh, really? So this was were you there

00:05:40.100 before the Jacob Blake incident happened? Correct. I was actually in Chicago, which people don't

00:05:45.540 realize is of just about an hour like south of Kenosha, actually covering another riot that was

00:05:51.480 taking place over multiple days. So this kind of sets the stage of how insane the world was last

00:05:56.340 year. You could literally be in one city covering a riot and only have to drive an hour to go cover

00:06:02.480 the next riot. They were happening so often and they were so proliferated throughout the country

00:06:07.460 that this was just became like my daily activity. Yeah. OK, so before we get into what exactly

00:06:12.760 happened with Kyle Rittenhouse, let's talk about some of what we were talking about before we

00:06:16.600 started rolling. Set the scene for people. What was it like to actually be on the ground in some of

00:06:21.800 these BLM Antifa left wing riots? Honestly, if people don't realize, probably about seven out of

00:06:31.300 10 of any serious videos that you might have seen from any riot around the country probably came from

00:06:36.820 my camera because it seemed that almost like God's hand was on my life to put me in the worst

00:06:43.140 situations possible, but to protect me in the midst of them. I mean, from from the beginning of George

00:06:50.320 Floyd in Minneapolis to here in Dallas, I mean, it was it was my first day moving here to Dallas. I just

00:06:56.880 moved here and a riot broke out. I drove into the city from California. A riot broke out. I go to record

00:07:04.160 the riot in Dallas. And how I knew that the country was never going to be the same is when the police

00:07:09.560 announced on their radios that they'd lost control of the city. Wow. And so to put into perspective

00:07:14.180 what it's like at these riots, when you're in one of the largest cities, a city like Dallas, by the

00:07:18.440 way, which people think of as being Texas and conservative ish and, you know, it's going to be

00:07:22.280 safe. No, no, no. In Dallas, Black Lives Matter and Antifa and these groups were so violent. The police

00:07:28.580 department got to a point where they were hanging out of their windows with rubber bullet and pepper

00:07:34.020 bullet guns just spraying and shooting people just at bay, throwing tear gas, people throwing rocks at

00:07:40.340 the police cars, even watching a man come out with a machete and people break his head open with a

00:07:45.240 skateboard. And I do want to let the audience know some of the stuff talking about is quite graphic

00:07:49.000 because these are very violent events. And I think realizing that my first escape from the violence

00:07:55.540 in LA to Texas started with a group of people nearly killing a man, splitting his head open with

00:08:04.100 the skateboard trucks and laughing and people spitting on him and then watching after they

00:08:08.480 That was in Dallas. That was in Dallas. So this was, I think I remember this. This was a guy trying

00:08:12.400 to defend a business against the rioters with a machete. And then the rioters basically bashed his

00:08:17.840 head in until he was unconscious, right? And then they were, this is what, this is when I knew this was

00:08:21.660 different. Is that while this is going on, after they cracked open his head and blood is spilling

00:08:26.720 out, he's, I thought he was dead. They robbed him of his shoes and robbed his pockets, took his phone

00:08:32.600 and his wallet. Like they robbed a man they thought was dead. This is BLM. Yeah. And that, and that's,

00:08:38.520 that's, that was the start. That was the kickoff. That was the George Floyd week. And so the moment

00:08:43.900 that I saw human beings, Americans kill, or what I thought was nearly kill a man. Try to kill,

00:08:51.440 tried to kill, thought they were successful, laughed. They were mocking him, laughed at him,

00:08:56.960 stole his stuff afterwards and kept going on, broke into a bar, started twerking, pouring alcohol on

00:09:03.220 each other, breaking open ATMs, trying to break into the American airline center. And the police

00:09:07.600 couldn't stop it. I'm going, America's not the country that I thought it was. Right. And police,

00:09:15.860 I don't know if they're letting this happen. I don't know what's happening, but this isn't going to be

00:09:19.060 good. And this sparked off a year, the most intense year of not only my life, but for the

00:09:23.660 country, maybe three dozen riots over the course of like eight or nine months. I've seen many people

00:09:30.000 die. I've watched tens of millions of dollars of damages be done. I've had guns pointed at me,

00:09:35.120 triggers pulled. I've had, I've been arrested, beat up. I've been assaulted at gunpoint. I mean,

00:09:41.120 it has been a chaotic year, but of course we can't move past it because as you know, like we're still

00:09:47.380 talking about this stuff today, the effects of this are still affecting our country.

00:09:50.980 And even seeing all of that, you know, a lot of people aren't on Twitter. And if you're not on

00:09:55.360 Twitter last summer, you didn't see a lot of this stuff that was happening. And so all you see is

00:09:59.220 this kind of sanitized Instagram version, which is, um, you know, that rioting is the voice of the

00:10:06.000 unheard, that these are sincere social justice advocates, just trying to get people to stop killing

00:10:13.680 them. But in your experience, what we were talking about before we started this interview is that

00:10:18.580 you saw just a lot of evil behind the eyes of the people that were perpetuating this violence that

00:10:26.100 were engaging in publicly lewd acts, stealing, ransacking stores. It didn't seem to you like

00:10:35.340 these were people who were mourning the loss of George Floyd or who were trying to fight for

00:10:39.380 justice. Right? No, no. And that's so important that you bring that up because like your audience

00:10:45.820 that may not be familiar with me is that I am a federally credentialed reporter on top of a show

00:10:49.900 host. So a lot of my reporting has to be very objective. Here's what I'm seeing. Here's what's

00:10:54.440 going on. And of course, bringing the spiritual aspect into news reporting is not, not only not

00:10:58.940 welcomed, but people just don't understand it because they're asleep. They're not awake. And I don't

00:11:03.200 want to discredit the story as we expose the darkness, but I'm telling you, being at these events,

00:11:08.120 aside from the fact that they did almost $3 billion in looting and damages across the country in just

00:11:13.960 eight months. That's not just money, by the way. Those are, I mean, those are people's jobs. Those

00:11:17.680 are people's livelihoods also that are being ruined by this. Destroyed minority communities, mostly

00:11:22.820 the mostly black owned businesses and Asian owned businesses. They destroyed in their, in their own

00:11:27.140 communities. And you know, when I, when I'm, when I'm there and when I look at people and when you get

00:11:36.120 in there, I mean, there is no other way to describe it. Then you feel like you're in a, not only a

00:11:42.000 foreign country, but a foreign world, the collective rage and the anger these people had, not because

00:11:47.740 of George Floyd's death, but they were angry talking about how they hated men, cisgendered people,

00:11:54.380 you know, heterosexuality, the way that they were pushing for everything demonic to change their gender,

00:11:59.480 to, to explore their sexuality. And the way that they expressed that together of like, let's get

00:12:04.520 together and let's do evil things. Let's hurt people. Let's kill people. Let's steal things.

00:12:10.900 Let's destroy things. I mean, there is no other way to describe the energy there than purely satanic

00:12:17.640 from hell. And you feel like you're in hell. And I know that because whenever they would find out who

00:12:22.360 I was, cause they were always hunting me down. I mean, I've had, I've had to be pulled out of

00:12:25.900 situations by the FBI in some of these riots. I've had to be banned from cities. I've had to be

00:12:30.080 evacuated. I mean, this has gotten so intense for after a while. Cause we were, I was being stupid

00:12:35.920 and going right into the middle of their chaos and exposing them dressed like them, looking like them.

00:12:41.880 And, and I believe cause God wanted their darkness to be exposed because the media was lying.

00:12:46.880 And when you go in there and you realize that this is a spiritual battle,

00:12:50.460 the darkness recognizes that and they want to snuff out the light and they're looking for people who

00:12:56.660 are trying to show the truth. And that's why the entire battle throughout all of this, which has

00:13:00.340 really shocked me, the amount of slander hit pieces, um, just demonetization canceling that has

00:13:06.260 happened because institutions that are controlled by the power of this world were more mad. This is

00:13:13.580 what's crazy. Out of all of this, dozens of people killed billions of dollars of damage, cities

00:13:18.220 destroyed, life's ruined, uh, you know, all of the chaos, the hurt, the pain, the division in our

00:13:23.020 country, the media's end takeaway from all of this was they're mad at people like me for how we, that

00:13:28.540 we recorded it. Like that's what they're mad about. They're, they're mad that we exposed it and that

00:13:32.440 we showed the truth of what was happening as they try to make these seem like mostly peaceful

00:13:35.340 protests. A lot of people, you might not know what was happening in the country because there were

00:13:39.840 people that were in power that were intentionally making sure you didn't know. And they were trying to

00:13:43.800 make things seem like they weren't bad. But while you were, you know, on Tik TOK, while you were,

00:13:47.840 you know, going to your Bible studies while you were doing what you were doing,

00:13:51.940 America was literally burning and people were killing each other. And there was a domestic

00:13:56.440 war that was taking place in our major cities and our government and, and our news stations and

00:14:03.280 Hollywood, they acted like it didn't happen. It wasn't happening. And they're trying to pretend like

00:14:08.780 it never did.

00:14:09.480 And we're about to get to Kenosha in a second. When they did acknowledge it, they would stand in

00:14:18.200 front of it and say fiery, but mostly peaceful protest. So they would just lie. They would say,

00:14:23.280 don't believe your lying eyes, believe what we're going, what, what we're telling you are rendering of

00:14:29.200 these events. And I think you're right. I mean, it's darkness trying to protect darkness. Darkness hates

00:14:35.120 light. It hates exposure. And that's certainly what you were doing when you were going to these

00:14:40.760 protests. And so I want to bring us specifically to Kenosha. Um, we know that this was in response to

00:14:49.440 Jacob Blake being shot by a police officer, Jacob Blake, just to refresh people's memory. He was

00:14:55.020 armed with a knife. He was allegedly in front of the house of the mother of his children. He was

00:14:59.900 violating a restraining order. He had previously been charged with sexually assaulting her.

00:15:04.820 The officers tell, told him to drop the knife over and over again. He didn't drop the knife.

00:15:09.360 The officer then shot him. And this is why Kenosha burned to the ground. Kyle Rittenhouse went to

00:15:15.340 Kenosha. Why?

00:15:16.960 So this is very interesting. And I do want to let people know this. As somebody who's been in a lot

00:15:22.300 of conflict, there is no event that happened even more than January 6th at the Capitol.

00:15:28.660 That stuck in my head and the head of the reporters who were there than Kenosha. And the reason why

00:15:33.580 it's significant and why Kyle went, Kenosha was a riot that took place over three days. Okay. This

00:15:39.480 was not an event that occurred on one night and some guy, and we'll get into why he was there and

00:15:44.460 what happened. Some guy came in and he was a vigilante and tried to do the jobs of the cops. No,

00:15:48.660 no, no. Kenosha was a, I would say, an event that the local government and state government

00:15:54.220 allowed to happen where they systemically allowed a small city in the middle of America to physically

00:16:00.960 be burned to the ground. And this is graphic. And I do want to set the stage of how serious

00:16:06.160 it was on the first two nights. People were putting signs on the apartment buildings, letting

00:16:14.140 people know that there were kids inside. But these BLM and Antifa members still set the buildings

00:16:19.940 on fire where kids had to be taken through windows and removed out of buildings. They tried

00:16:24.620 to kill children. Okay. These people had no respect for life. There was another man, he was in his late

00:16:30.060 sixties, early seventies, who had a generational store and he was telling the people, Hey, no, this is

00:16:35.280 my store. Please, please don't, don't damage it. Like this is our community. They took a brick,

00:16:40.800 cracked open his skull. I don't know if he's dead, but I know that they knew. I've seen a lot of bad

00:16:47.260 things, blood flying, proceed to break the windows and burn down his store. They burned down a church.

00:16:52.640 They burned down several city blocks. There's an entire half of the city that no one even has

00:16:56.560 footage that they burned because there was just not enough reporting reporters available to capture

00:17:01.200 the chaos in the city. The amount of destruction that was, that was taking place in this place.

00:17:07.020 This is not also an event that was localized to a street. Okay. This was taking place from a courthouse

00:17:12.700 down to the main street, down to car lots, up to the, up to the, uh, strip malls. And on top of this,

00:17:19.260 the violence was so intense and the destruction, not only did they burn buildings down. And I tell you,

00:17:25.380 it was the, the fires were so hot and the chemicals they used to set these fires to burn down stores

00:17:30.480 and correctional facilities that even trying to do a new standup across the street on a four lane highway.

00:17:35.700 I couldn't even do a standup for more than 30 seconds. Cause the heat was so hot. Like they

00:17:40.680 couldn't even bring like fire trucks up to it. The flames were burning so hot. So are these people

00:17:45.180 in Kenosha that are setting these fires or are these like agitators, writers that are coming in

00:17:51.480 from out of town? I saw the same people that were at the riot in Chicago at Kenosha. And I saw some

00:17:56.940 people in Kenosha that I've seen in Portland. So believe me, these were very well coordinated

00:18:01.500 attacks. Are they, do you think they're hired? Are they paid for a hundred percent? People talk

00:18:06.140 about them. We've infiltrated Antifa many times in Portland gone. You'd be surprised at what drinking

00:18:10.960 a beer and smoking a cigarette can do wearing black and just, you know, killing your lungs and your

00:18:15.560 liver with a couple of, uh, you know, very thin pale white people that, that, that LARP on the weekends

00:18:22.200 hearing what they do. They're all armed. They have, they, they believe in a communist revolution

00:18:26.560 and they believe, um, they believe that they have the right to destroy property because they don't

00:18:31.220 believe in property rights. So they don't believe in personal property and believe in capitalism is

00:18:35.620 part of the problem. So they seek to put pressure on that by burning down the businesses and, and

00:18:40.140 like, and to tell people how absolutely violent people were in Kenosha, Ali, this doesn't even

00:18:45.040 make sense. I don't know how they did this. They've gotten to groups and took down all of the street

00:18:49.640 lights. Wow. Like they got together and got the foundations and broke all the lights in the street.

00:18:54.740 I didn't even know you could do that. Talk about hating light. Like we were talking about that in a

00:18:58.420 spiritual metaphorical sense, but what a good literal depiction of darkness hating light.

00:19:02.820 Literally. You're right. No. And I, this is my point. We are in a city that has been physically

00:19:07.140 burning for days. The lights are all broken. There's complete darkness besides the glow of the

00:19:12.240 flames. This is going over many square miles. The police have done, are doing nothing. The national

00:19:18.940 guard, the request gets turned down. This, this is an intentional destruction of a city. And we're

00:19:25.200 finding out what the corruption that is being allowed to happen and nobody's doing anything.

00:19:29.200 I'm there and I'm scared for my life. I talked to a reporter, Jorge Ventura. We were in the middle

00:19:34.280 of the city and there's gang members and, and Tifa and BLM people. And you know, someone had just put a,

00:19:41.440 put a gun into my face. And I think, thank God, I think the gun jammed or they pulled the trigger

00:19:45.360 and it's on footage and I'm freaking out. And I'm like sitting there. I don't know where we're at.

00:19:49.800 I'm lost. And I'm going, bro, this is not on accident. Like we have the ability to stop this.

00:19:58.300 Why is nobody doing anything? So as we get into this, what happened with Kyle,

00:20:03.100 Kyle was one of several dozen people. There was two groups of armed individuals. And it's important

00:20:09.880 not to call them militias because they weren't militias. They weren't like this organized group

00:20:13.540 of people. But the first question we need to ask is why were the only people that came

00:20:19.660 to try to protect the buildings in the city, young men that weren't law enforcement or part

00:20:27.000 of the national guard? So these were groups of young men who came armed with, with long rifles.

00:20:30.840 They had like CS gas, tear gas. And I'm going to tell you what, the only people that were

00:20:35.400 properly keeping businesses from being burned down were these groups of people. They were

00:20:39.020 So you're talking about Kyle Rittenhouse, other people like him. There was tons. That's what

00:20:43.140 people don't get. He's not, he wasn't alone. He wasn't a kid that showed up. He was a kid

00:20:46.260 in a group and at large groups of people. There was a couple of groups. But it wasn't organized.

00:20:50.600 No, they just, they just kind of came. A couple of people came, a couple of people came and they

00:20:54.900 just kind of formed these groups and they were actually using less than lethal or non-lethal

00:21:00.040 force to keep people. They were using a lot of tear gas and like pepper spray and stuff to keep

00:21:03.660 people. And they actually, they actually saved the city because the, the rioters try to blow up a gas

00:21:10.560 station. And so they try to set a gas station on fire and blow it up. Okay. And they kept the

00:21:16.880 rioters successfully from blowing up the gas station. So before we even talk about anything

00:21:21.380 bad that happened, if these guys weren't there, this would have been a mass chaos event. And I'd

00:21:26.280 probably be dead myself because I was there when they tried to blow up the gas station and they helped

00:21:30.540 put out the fire and get it under control and get the rioters away. And this is where we get

00:21:34.000 introduced to some of these characters like Gage and Huber and Rosenbaum who were in this scene

00:21:40.360 trying to get this gas station to be blown up. So everyone involved in this, you have A, the guys

00:21:45.960 with guns that are trying to protect the city and B, the rioters who are literally trying to kill

00:21:51.200 people, kill children, kill older, you know, senile men, burn businesses. Black, white, brown, it doesn't

00:21:57.320 matter because you also saw in several cities, people putting up, you know, on their storefront,

00:22:01.880 this is a black owned business. Didn't matter. Got looted. I mean, what bothers me so much is that

00:22:07.620 Christian women in particular on Instagram get so sucked in with the social justice narrative

00:22:12.120 that if I even mentioned, Hey, this, I think this looting is bad or Hey, I think probably burning down

00:22:18.420 people's businesses and homes is a bad thing. That's probably not fitting into any kind of definition

00:22:23.440 of biblical justice. I mean, you would get called all kinds of names, a white supremacist,

00:22:27.740 a bigot, a racist, and all of this stuff. And it just, the deception that even Christians have

00:22:34.540 found themselves under, they don't know the stuff that you're talking about, but even if they do,

00:22:38.620 they don't want to hear it. I don't know why. Or they just want to believe that yes, America is

00:22:43.920 systemically racist, that this kind of stuff is justified. And no, the worst thing that's ever

00:22:48.000 happened to America is January 6th. I don't know why, but they don't want to believe the truth

00:22:52.560 that you're relaying right now. It's uncomfortable to them. And I really can't figure it out.

00:22:56.940 Because the truth is feminine, like it's feminized in the, in the, in the church. Like they take the

00:23:00.640 truth and they turn, they've, they've created a, an icon based, celebrity based pathway of feel good

00:23:08.560 sermons in church where they think that the way you're going to affect the world is simply by having,

00:23:12.640 you know, potlucks, prayer meetings in your home and Bible studies. And that the ultimate thing you

00:23:17.980 can become one day, you notice most pastors use examples of like, Oh, well, if you become a pastor,

00:23:22.220 you're like a worship leader, like they make the ultimate ascension of whether you can, you know,

00:23:27.320 wear skinny jeans, which I know, Hey, I'm wearing them right now, but wear skinny jeans and play the

00:23:31.460 guitar in a four chord progression. When God called us to be like the salt of the world, like we are

00:23:37.180 called to be light and we are called to affect change. And we are called to go out in the world

00:23:41.020 and to, to be the hands and the feet, the body of Christ. We've become like a superficial clothing of

00:23:47.180 Christ rather than his actual body. And if you've ever seen a man's hands, they're usually rough.

00:23:51.340 Like even mine, they're callous because they pick heavy things up. They put them back down.

00:23:55.320 They, they get dirty. And I noticed in the midst of all of this stuff, I'm going, where are the

00:24:00.540 Christians trying to show the truth and fight for the truth? And it's when you're, when you're living

00:24:05.680 in a world where you're seeking to be validated, where your sermons are all about anxiety and I feel

00:24:10.220 good and this and that. And you're not saying, Lord, put me in the most uncomfortable positions

00:24:14.160 possible. Make me a person that nobody understands that is rejected by the world. Make me like that.

00:24:20.640 You know what that means? It means make me like Christ. Put me in a position, put me in a situation

00:24:24.360 that's too hard for me to bear around people that reject me. As long as it's your will, I'd rather

00:24:29.540 be there and know I'm doing your will and be misunderstood by the world than to be liked by

00:24:34.660 my Christian circle and, you know, feel good. It's like Christians are not willing to get uncomfortable

00:24:38.460 and they're unwilling to face the hard and difficult truths and realize, well, that's, but then people

00:24:43.660 aren't going to like me. That's what God said. He said that they rejected me first.

00:24:47.060 They're going to reject you. And I know for someone like you in the midst of this too,

00:24:50.460 it has been uncomfortable. I don't like to walk around looking like an a-hole, like a racist a-hole

00:24:55.620 or whatever else they'll call you today. I'm sure you don't like it either. I don't have hatred in my

00:24:59.420 heart. I love, I love this country. I love the people in it. But unfortunately the narratives that

00:25:04.540 have been given to the people in the church are progressive narratives. They come from Satan.

00:25:08.340 They're from the mouth of Beelzebub himself and they are here to distract and to keep Christians

00:25:13.200 from being awakened to the truth simply so that they're well-liked. And they posted the black

00:25:17.620 square thinking that was going to affect change. Buddy, that didn't do anything.

00:25:21.400 Yeah. Yep. And one uncomfortable truth in the midst of all of this, and it goes back to the

00:25:28.120 racial narratives and the police brutality narratives that we were just talking about that are just not

00:25:33.600 founded in reality, is what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse. It's much easier to believe what the

00:25:39.300 mainstream media is saying that he is just a terrorist, that he is some vigilante. And I

00:25:44.300 actually have, I think we can play it, a montage of what the media has been saying about Kyle

00:25:50.420 Rittenhouse. Kenosha shooter, Kyle Rittenhouse, he murdered two people, by the way.

00:25:54.900 Rittenhouse is basically what you would have had in a school shooter. He's a 17-year-old kid. He

00:26:00.000 shouldn't have had a gun. He crossed state lines to supposedly protect property. No, he was going out

00:26:04.640 to shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old vigilante. Kyle Rittenhouse, the vigilante. Kyle

00:26:10.280 Rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante. A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic

00:26:15.700 terrorist, picked up a rifle, drove to a different state to shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's

00:26:21.720 deeply racist, went with weapons to a Black Lives Matter protest, looking to get in trouble. He did.

00:26:27.380 He murdered a couple of people. Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old kid, just running around,

00:26:33.480 shooting and killing protesters. You see the 17-year-old, who was radicalized by Trumpism,

00:26:39.860 took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer. A white, Trump-supporting, MAGA-loving,

00:26:47.140 Blue Lives Matter social media partisan, 17 years old, picks up a gun, drives from one state to another

00:26:55.300 with the intent to shoot people. So basically that he, you know, he's deeply racist. We heard them say

00:27:02.520 he's a terrorist. He went out to murder these people. And you mentioned Rosenbaum, you mentioned

00:27:08.900 Huber, and I think it's Grosskreutz is his last name. It's hard to pronounce.

00:27:12.700 Yes, those were the three, I don't want to say victims, but people who were shot

00:27:16.360 by Kyle Rittenhouse. And the media is saying that he went out in Kenosha just to kill them. And I'm

00:27:23.700 seeing a lot of people just go along with that narrative because it's easier to do. But you were

00:27:27.060 there, so tell us what actually happened.

00:27:28.600 Okay. If you guys know a lot or a little bit about the situation, this is going to be the

00:27:32.860 most clear and detailed account that you will hear in the shortest amount of time.

00:27:38.780 After the rioters tried to blow up the gas station that was down by the main street,

00:27:44.540 literally trying to destroy the city, these young men who were armed tried to put out the fire and

00:27:50.280 successfully did, which enraged these people. Talk about satanic. They were mad that they were

00:27:56.400 unsuccessful at blowing up a gas station that they were in proximity to. Not very high IQ.

00:28:01.860 So this began a schism between the rioters and the armed young men who were trying to protect the

00:28:08.060 businesses. It became an actual left versus right type of fight. Yeah.

00:28:12.660 Where this is where violence broke out. And some of these individuals like Rosenbaum started using

00:28:16.660 the N-word, provoking the people with guns to kill him. And there's a video of that. I've seen the

00:28:20.760 video of this Rosenbaum guy. He is like 36 years older. He was. And he is calling some of these guys

00:28:28.080 like Kyle Rittenhouse, the N-word.

00:28:30.540 And he's white.

00:28:31.360 And he's white.

00:28:32.140 And he's using the N-word. Again, also clearly not thinking things through at a BLM rally using

00:28:38.080 the N-word as a white guy. Not smart.

00:28:40.100 And I just want to also note that he's a convicted pedophile. A lot of people don't realize that,

00:28:44.180 that he raped several boys in the early 2000s. And so this is the person that we're dealing with

00:28:50.260 that a lot of people in the media are protecting and even praising in some ways.

00:28:54.480 Oh, yeah. We're finding out these guys were not good people. And I want to remind you that

00:28:58.120 these were people already involved in heavy criminal activity, right? So these were not just

00:29:02.580 bystanders. These were not protesters. These were violent, destructive rioters who were in this

00:29:08.080 position. As this is breaking out, I noticed Black Block, Antifa, headed up the street with

00:29:14.220 two by fours and hammers. And I know that that's where I need to be at the front of the riot. I need

00:29:21.440 to follow and track where things are developing. So as we're walking up the street, these people are

00:29:26.260 lighting fires or setting dumpsters on fire. They're creating barriers. They're trying to cause more

00:29:30.540 damage, destroying streetlights. We come up upon a car lot that is being actively destroyed.

00:29:37.900 And when I say destroyed, I mean, with the most vitriol and hatred that someone can have for

00:29:44.000 a used car, I'm like, what'd the car do to you? Yeah. I mean, they had mallets.

00:29:48.220 It's like a temper tantrum. Yeah. Breaking out the lights, smashing out the windows. Just these cars

00:29:53.500 were being totaled, right? And some people are out here. I mean, it's like the amount of damage that

00:29:58.860 I'm seeing. I'm going, oh my gosh, this is already hundreds of thousands of dollars with the damage

00:30:03.400 just in this car lot. The people proceed to do what they did to another car lot and they

00:30:08.040 try to light the cars on fire and blow them up. There was actually over a million dollars of damage

00:30:12.820 down the street to a car lot they lit on fire. And the irony of that is that that was next to a church

00:30:17.420 and the church's sign said Black Lives Matter and it burned down with the car lot.

00:30:21.600 I remember that.

00:30:22.320 Yeah. It was a trip to see that in person and it puts into perspective really how backwards the

00:30:28.940 message is. Yeah. And you can never be woken up. They're still going to come for you.

00:30:32.760 No. Yeah. They still were. And so to set the stage, this was a moment where there was no police.

00:30:38.680 It was complete darkness minus a few lights on the car lot. And these were some of the most violent,

00:30:46.680 destructive, and hate-filled people I've ever seen. I'm telling you, Ali,

00:30:50.820 there was something different about that night. I have not seen people

00:30:54.360 fueled with so much strength. Like there's a difference, right? Even in murder, like between

00:30:58.420 first degree, second degree, third degree. Like, you know, like you can tell a crime scene when

00:31:02.620 someone murdered out of rage, right? There's a lot more stab wounds, a lot more blood. Like,

00:31:06.580 oh, this was a crime of passion. Yeah. That riot was a riot of passion. They were there to cause

00:31:13.680 harm and it escalated. And not because they were necessarily so upset about Jacob Blake, correct?

00:31:19.360 No, these were, these were people that were in Chicago. These are, these are professional

00:31:22.220 rioters. These people were just, they realized- I bet some of them didn't even know Jacob Blake's

00:31:26.740 name. I can guarantee it, but what they knew, this is where, this is what it was. Because there

00:31:31.680 was no police intervention after multiple days, the people felt emboldened in their wickedness

00:31:36.060 and they felt like they could go harder because they didn't, they didn't need to quickly, you know,

00:31:39.940 hit a window and run. It's like these people- There's no consequences. Yep. They were allowed

00:31:43.360 to do this. So I want to say that this whole situation, as I, as I tell you right now,

00:31:47.340 what happened with, with Rittenhouse right here, this entire situation is, can be blamed

00:31:52.260 on the local and state government. And we're going to find out from the federal government

00:31:55.500 for allowing this to happen. It could have been prevented. It could have been stopped.

00:31:58.620 The blood is on their hands. Are you including the Trump administration in that?

00:32:02.620 Yes. I, that's besides, besides his, his, his collusion with big pharma, Donald Trump's

00:32:08.620 largest weakness, not personal weakness, but administrative weakness was not weeding out the corruption

00:32:13.460 of the FBI and not taking control of the country because he was afraid they were going to call him

00:32:17.080 a dictator. Well, look what we have now in office, a dictator. So it's not dictatorial or fascist

00:32:24.320 to get control of a country from the violence. Yeah. And, and this, this was one of these situations

00:32:31.160 where I'm standing. There's a, if, if you're like right here, let's just say that you're on the other

00:32:37.260 side, there's a car between us. There's an SUV. They had broken out all the windows on the SUV and they

00:32:42.140 were lighting the SUV on fire. And I'm standing on this side of the SUV and on the other side

00:32:48.780 where you are, I'm looking through the windows and I just see a guy running up in a green shirt.

00:32:55.780 And I go, I'm like, Oh, that's the kid that I interviewed earlier. I had interviewed Kyle

00:33:00.180 and I spoke to him because he threw, I don't know if he or someone else threw tear gas into the,

00:33:04.860 like into the crowd as they try to burn down another building and they got, they saved the

00:33:08.080 building from being burned down. And I'm like, ah, this kid, I got to talk to him. He's like,

00:33:11.520 looks like a nice kid. He's got gloves on. Uh, he was offering medical assistance to people that

00:33:15.660 were, that were affected by the gas showing that he wasn't just, you know, a menace trying to,

00:33:20.480 you know, irritate people's eyes and lungs. He was trying to keep them away from a building

00:33:24.280 and help people say that he lied about being a medic. Is that true? Or was he just offering

00:33:28.300 medical help? No. So here's the thing. He was asked by Richard McGinnis of daily caller. If he was

00:33:32.500 an EMT and he said, yes. And it's actually a technical because he didn't have a license, but he did go to

00:33:37.500 an EMT cadet training like program. So he did have training, but he wasn't licensed.

00:33:42.460 So I mean, that's not the biggest part of the story. I've just seen some people circulate that

00:33:47.100 and I just didn't know if it was true. It's going to be a people, if I said to you like,

00:33:49.140 oh yeah, like, are you an expert with firearms? It's like, yeah. It's like, well, you never took

00:33:51.720 any classes, but you did shoot a lot and you know how to shoot well, but technically you didn't like

00:33:55.540 get a certification that you're an expert shooter. So it's like, it's a technical. And in these

00:33:59.900 situations, it's the dumbest thing because he's actually, he was helping people and he knew what he was

00:34:03.780 doing. And I was like, oh, that like, it's like, there comes that kid. And then behind him is

00:34:09.600 running this other guy, Rosenbaum. And like, it's kind of chaotic. And I'm Rosenbaum, by the way,

00:34:16.220 just so people remember, he's the guy who is confrontational with using the N word, convicted

00:34:22.680 pedophile. And the reason why I bring that up is because, okay, everyone's bringing up Rittenhouse's

00:34:27.700 background. You know, all of the, all of the news reports are talking about, oh, he loved Donald Trump

00:34:32.860 and he loved police officers in the military as if that's a bad thing, trying to paint the picture

00:34:37.560 of who he is and give people context. So they have a particular perspective of him. Okay. Well,

00:34:42.460 if you're going to do that about Rittenhouse, let's do it about the people that went after him and that

00:34:46.180 he shot to Rosenbaum convicted pedophile, sexually molested many boys. So let's just put that.

00:34:52.500 And the context is important too, because somebody wrote, um, Nikki Klein wrote, uh, on Twitter that

00:34:58.460 the background of the people who are shot is, is irrelevant. Like you were saying, it isn't

00:35:03.060 irrelevant because even in any court, you look at people's past behavior to predict sentencing

00:35:07.520 because you look at their ability to redo something. And in this situation, trying to

00:35:11.500 understand whether, as we're going to talk about right now, deadly force was needed would be to

00:35:15.320 understand someone's past to predict what they might've done in the moment to see. Right. Cause

00:35:19.620 if this is like just some guy in a wheelchair, like rolling up to you and you blast him with a gun,

00:35:22.600 you'd be like, that's one thing you go, well, like, or yeah, or it was just like a pro, a peaceful

00:35:26.640 protester. Like, no, if you see this person has a history of sexual violence, violence, agitation,

00:35:32.280 et cetera. And we're finding out was bipolar might've been off his meds. Um, this was a very

00:35:37.920 violent person. And to set the stage, this was not the first interaction between everybody in the

00:35:42.600 night. Like we weren't, we didn't all just, you know, teleport to this car lot. Like we'd been

00:35:46.240 around each other for days for, for, for that night for hours. And we'd all seen each other. We knew

00:35:50.080 who, what the players were. We knew who was doing what we're not stupid. Neither was Kyle. I'm don't

00:35:55.620 assume Rosenbaum, uh, was very bright, but it's like, he knew who was who. Yeah. So he knew who

00:36:01.080 was who he's, he even, no matter how stupid you are, you know what an AR 15 is. So Kyle has this

00:36:07.560 AR 15, they're running up. I'm just filming these people trying to blow up a car and I hear a gunshot

00:36:13.980 and it psychs me out. Cause like people are running up, which is, which was another individual. So

00:36:19.140 someone fires a gun over like behind me. It's like, I'm like, Oh shoot. And no one talks about

00:36:24.060 that. A gun was fired towards our direction. You can hear the ricochet. So somebody fired at our

00:36:29.500 direction. And so everyone tried to pretend like Kyle just like randomly shot some peaceful

00:36:35.740 protester. Okay. The first shot wasn't from Kyle was from somebody else. And it was in the direction.

00:36:40.180 We don't know who exactly. Yeah. I think they said it might be, they have an idea of who they,

00:36:44.400 they, they think it is. And I think he might be charged with misconduct, but it's confusing,

00:36:49.680 but all of a sudden, so I'm like distracted and I'm like, what the heck? And then Kyle's back turns

00:36:56.240 to the car. So it's like the, the, the distance we're a little bit farther away. Basically if

00:37:00.740 there's a car between us, it's me and Kyle and these are big windows. Kyle just turns around and just

00:37:05.840 goes like fires like three or four shots. I don't remember how many it was. It was multiple shots.

00:37:10.520 And I was just like, I'm not going to curse, but oh my gosh, I used so many words in that moment.

00:37:17.240 I was like, cause what no one talks about is here's what's so crazy is right after Kyle shoots

00:37:22.520 a few times, a lot of other people started shooting. So shooting broke out in the area

00:37:27.740 and everyone fails to wreck, to talk about this. So now you just start hearing bang, bang, bang shots

00:37:33.840 coming from different directions. You're hearing bullets fly. And I'm like, I am going to die.

00:37:37.940 Yeah. Of course you thought you were going to die. Yeah. I'm like, I'm going to die. I'm going

00:37:41.200 to die. So I'm like, I jumped behind a car, like another car. Cause I'm like, this guy's right in

00:37:46.000 front of me. He's shooting. I don't know what's going on, but I quickly get up even as gunshots

00:37:51.100 are still going off to go run over to keep filming. Cause I'm stupid. And, um, right behind

00:37:57.900 Kyle, a good friend of mine, a reporter, Richie McGinnis was coming up. And what's so crazy. God saved

00:38:02.200 his life because he didn't get out of the way. And you can see on the footage, the heat

00:38:06.160 signature of like a bullet nearly missed him. So God spared his life too. So the shooting

00:38:10.440 of, of Rosenbaum from Kyle happened when Rosenbaum came up, tried to grab his gun. And I don't

00:38:17.540 know about you, but if someone has a gun and you don't, you shouldn't try to grab their

00:38:20.180 gun because you deserve to be shot at that point. Kyle was in a position. This is what

00:38:24.060 I'm trying to say where he had nowhere to go. There was a car behind him. There was a convicted

00:38:28.160 pedophile in front of him trying to take his gun. And he did what people should do in a

00:38:32.740 situation. If you're armed and somebody is trying to kill you and take your gun, you should shoot

00:38:37.400 them. And this was the guy that Richie McGinnis, when he was testifying, they said, um, was this

00:38:43.880 the guy that the prosecutor who's a terrible prosecutor was trying to say, you didn't know

00:38:47.920 what was in Rosenbaum's head, right? Is that who he was talking about? You don't know what's in

00:38:51.200 Rosenbaum's head. And Richie McGinnis was like, well, he leaned for the weapon and said, F you. So

00:38:57.060 like, you could kind of tell what Rosenbaum was about to do to grab the weapon. Like he was

00:39:00.720 probably going to try to kill Rittenhouse.

00:39:03.380 You know, I did watch that. And I, I forgot about that, that he did yell that out. He

00:39:07.340 literally, yeah, he did. Yeah. Like he yelled and I don't know if he was demonic or mentally

00:39:13.220 ill, but like, to me, it's like, nobody's, nobody's asking the question. This is what's

00:39:16.740 so crazy before we talk about the other shootings is like, everyone keeps talking about number

00:39:20.840 one, that Kyle crossed state lines. This is what you might hear. If you're listening to

00:39:24.160 this or watching this, they're going to say, well, Kyle crossed state lines. He shouldn't

00:39:27.520 have been there. Okay. The difference between where he was in Antioch, Illinois and Kenosha

00:39:31.800 is literally the difference of going from Fort Worth to Dallas. It's like, it's the same

00:39:35.480 thing. Kenosha and Antioch, exact same thing. Not only that, he had worked there. His dad

00:39:39.140 was there. He had connections to the city. This wasn't a strange place. Okay. This was

00:39:43.720 a, like a twin city type of thing. This is not, he didn't go from, you know, Portland to

00:39:48.440 New York to go help at a riot. This was his backyard.

00:39:50.680 Yeah. Which by the way, it's so funny. People are like, oh, he crossed state lines. So did

00:39:54.640 a lot of the rioters, like from much farther away.

00:39:57.840 Well, that's what I'm saying. Nobody asked the question, like who else crossed state lines?

00:40:00.400 Literally all the people, a lot of people who were there that they even said, like most

00:40:04.000 of the arrests from that, from that, from that event where they were not residents of

00:40:07.200 Kenosha. Okay. And they were stopping caravans. There was caravans of cars coming up from Chicago

00:40:10.960 that they were stopping to cut the exits off to keep more people from coming from out of state.

00:40:14.880 So this was common. Number two, they go, why was he here that night? Why was he there? Why

00:40:19.760 was anybody there? Like, why were the rioters out there? Exactly. It was curfew. It was

00:40:24.320 curfew too. They go, well, it was curfew. It was curfew for everybody, buddy. It was

00:40:27.200 curfew for me too. Yeah. Why was it only curfew for him? And that's another thing that

00:40:30.180 bothers me about people saying, oh, we shouldn't talk about the background of Grosskreutz and

00:40:34.960 Huber, whatever his name is, and Rosenbaum, the three guys that got shot. Oh, we, you know,

00:40:40.440 their background is irrelevant. Well, you keep asking that question. Why was Rittenhouse

00:40:45.520 there? Well, look at all these things he said in his past. It was obviously to kill

00:40:49.120 people. Well, if you look at their past, you would ask the same question. Why were

00:40:52.460 they there? Do they really seem like guys who cared about Jacob Blake? Do they really

00:40:57.260 seem like they care about social justice? No. So I think it's a good enough question

00:41:01.660 to ask why were they there, right? And they knew each other. We found out that a lot of

00:41:05.760 these rioters that are involved in this knew each other. Of course. It's a network. Yeah.

00:41:08.320 But that's what I want to say is that also the question is asked. They go, well, why was

00:41:10.900 a 17 year old there with a gun? Buddy, that's a good question. Why weren't the police

00:41:14.120 there? Why weren't the National Guard deployed? Like, that is a good question. Why did it come

00:41:18.900 down to a 17 year old defending businesses? He wasn't a vigilante either. He brought a

00:41:25.600 gun from his own words. He told me earlier in the night to my face. He said it on the

00:41:29.420 stand in the trial and he said it multiple times. He brought a gun for self-defense and

00:41:33.640 he came to do medical aid and to protect buildings. And he did that fine and he was doing that.

00:41:38.500 There was never any signs that I saw and I witnessed that he was ever pointing a gun at

00:41:42.100 people. None of these guys were. They weren't trying to get people away from them. And I do

00:41:45.400 want to point this out too. They go, well, why did he have a gun? So many of the rioters

00:41:49.820 had guns. Okay. That's why he had a gun for self-defense. They were carrying guns.

00:41:52.960 Grosskreutz had a gun and he wasn't even legally allowed to have a gun. A lot of people were

00:41:57.500 carrying guns. His permit was expired. And yeah, he had a Glock, I believe.

00:42:01.740 Yeah. But a lot of people, they had rifles. Two people were like, well, why do you need a

00:42:04.040 rifle? It's like, look, everyone was armed. I'm just going to repeat this for somebody

00:42:08.220 that wasn't paying attention. Somebody pointed a gun in my face. There was a reason to be

00:42:11.740 armed. I felt like I was an idiot for not having my gun, but it's complicated to bring

00:42:15.500 guns across state lines sometimes like that. So obviously, as we're seeing, things can happen.

00:42:21.060 So basically, we start administering aid. Richie does. We're trying to protect him. He starts

00:42:26.480 running down the street. The skateboarder, this is what they say, the skateboarder that

00:42:31.740 he killed, actually hit him in the head with his trucks, which can kill people.

00:42:34.680 And that's Huber.

00:42:35.600 Yeah. People realize this. He tried to kill him. That's considered deadly force.

00:42:41.740 And Kyle shot one shot and killed him.

00:42:45.440 And they were chasing him. That's a whole other thing. I feel like people...

00:42:48.440 With weapons.

00:42:48.960 Yes. He was not. Like, if you watch the video, Rittenhouse wasn't chasing them. He was running

00:42:53.820 one way. They were running after him. That in itself shows that there was aggression on

00:42:58.960 their part, that he wasn't going up to them and just murdering people.

00:43:01.760 No. Yeah. That's what I'm going to say. They were running after him with guns, two by fours,

00:43:05.480 hammers. So when we're talking about this kid being outnumbered,

00:43:09.180 and he wasn't shooting people just that were chasing him. I mean, he was attacked first.

00:43:14.180 Then he shot. Then our favorite German last name, which is hard to pronounce. I always

00:43:21.000 mess it up.

00:43:21.660 It's Grosskreutz.

00:43:22.360 Grosskreutz. Yeah.

00:43:23.620 Gage, I think is his first name.

00:43:24.680 Yeah, I know his first name. I know. I'm very familiar with him and the Puff PCNN wrote

00:43:27.780 about him. He tried to shoot Kyle Rittenhouse with a loaded Glock and Kyle blew out his bicep.

00:43:35.480 And that is very painful. And he says he's going to have to live with that for the rest

00:43:40.220 of his life. And I would say this, yeah, don't pull a loaded gun out on somebody who's got

00:43:43.660 a loaded gun pointed at you. And so it's so crazy though, that in the midst of all this,

00:43:48.080 every single one of the shootings were a clear sign of self-defense. And as a key witness in all

00:43:54.040 of this, it was all self-defense. But the reason why this is going to trial, the reason why they

00:43:59.360 put him on a million dollars bond in a clear sign of self-defense, they charged him with double

00:44:03.920 intentional homicide is because this is like a three-part issue. The main point of this trial

00:44:09.840 is to test the limits of the second amendment. And not only, not only, even if we win this trial

00:44:15.340 and Kyle wins, and it's proven that it's, it's what the video shows that it was self-defense.

00:44:20.240 They still went, they still won because they show you that even if you use your second amendment

00:44:24.460 and act in self-defense and win and don't go to court, they're going to make your life hell,

00:44:28.180 make it expensive, and they're going to ruin your reputation, destroy you. And they're showing you

00:44:32.220 that the second amendment may keep you out of prison long-term, but we can still bankrupt you.

00:44:36.780 We can tarnish your name and we can destroy your life.

00:44:38.980 Even if you're 17 years old.

00:44:39.620 Yeah, even as a kid. And that's the, that's what the point of this is. I mean, there's other side

00:44:43.360 aspects that he's a white guy with a gun and they want to demonize white people with guns.

00:44:46.680 There's an AR-15.

00:44:47.820 Even though he shot a white person with a gun.

00:44:49.620 But people don't know that.

00:44:51.060 Why did they call, why did they call this racist though, when the three people that he shot were

00:44:54.360 also white men? One of them said the AR-15.

00:44:56.240 Because the narrative is they think that they were black. That's really what it is. The narrative

00:45:00.140 is that he killed black people. Nobody even knows that the people that shot were white.

00:45:03.420 Or at least that he went there to oppose peaceful protests against racial injustice. I guess that's

00:45:08.240 what some people want to say.

00:45:09.860 They say he went out to kill BLM protesters. And.

00:45:14.620 Which as you said, there weren't even very many peaceful protesters there in Kenosha.

00:45:18.240 They weren't peaceful at all. So they weren't peaceful. They were violent. They were armed.

00:45:22.400 They were destructive. And a pedophile tried to disarm and potentially kill a minor. The

00:45:29.460 minor used the gun, defended himself. Another adult tried to kill a minor. He killed him

00:45:34.240 before he died himself.

00:45:35.760 Also has a criminal background, by the way.

00:45:37.480 Yes.

00:45:37.600 Huber has a criminal background. So does Grosskreutz.

00:45:39.600 Yeah, Grosskreutz. Then another adult tried to kill him with an armed weapon and he was shot.

00:45:43.680 That is self-defense. You can argue whether he should have been there, anything, motives.

00:45:47.280 Right.

00:45:47.360 It doesn't matter. The point is, is that what he did was nothing against black people. There was no signs

00:45:52.080 of racism. No signs of white supremacy. There were no issues at all. And this case is a show trial. And it's

00:45:58.560 meant to put fear in patriotic Americans. And it's mainly because he's a Trump supporter and he loves

00:46:04.560 the police. He loves the military. He loves his country.

00:46:06.640 I have spoken with him extensively. I've spoken with his mother extensively. These people,

00:46:16.640 these tech companies, banks, everybody colluded to ban them from everything.

00:46:20.640 Because GoFundMe wouldn't allow people to donate money to his legal defense, right?

00:46:27.200 Yeah. And Facebook has made his name a violation of their terms of service. So you can get suspended

00:46:32.480 for even posting his name if they want to and or posting his picture. And they have,

00:46:36.240 they have declared him a mass shooter, mass shooter before this is, this is what's so crazy.

00:46:41.280 The jury doesn't matter in the courtroom because the jury of big tech of the media has already

00:46:47.200 painted a picture that this was a mass shooting of a racist white supremacist who wanted to kill

00:46:52.400 black people who were fighting for racial justice. Even though there's literally no evidence of that

00:46:57.040 whatsoever. Including mass evidence against it. Yeah. But that's what's so crazy is like these,

00:47:01.360 all these companies have moved to enact their own form of social justice to where they've banned this

00:47:07.200 guy based on the predication of false narratives and lies. Even if he's, even if, even if in court

00:47:12.320 it shows there was no white supremacy. The entire, all of the riots are based on false narratives.

00:47:16.480 They're all based on false narratives. Now I'm not saying that you can't care about what happened

00:47:20.400 to George Floyd. Okay. That's fine. I'm not saying that you can't care about real injustice when it

00:47:24.720 happens, but this entire narrative surrounding racialized police brutality is based on something

00:47:32.800 that is false. It's based on a false premise premise that is perpetuated by the media who act

00:47:38.240 like this is an epidemic of white police officers going after unarmed black men when the numbers just

00:47:44.640 don't show that's true. So the riots themselves are actually fueled, fanned into flame by a lie.

00:47:50.720 And then we are seeing the extension of this lie in Kyle Rittenhouse. And the media don't care that

00:47:55.680 they have placed him, a 17 year old kid on the altar of that lie. We saw the same thing with Covington.

00:48:01.680 We saw the same thing with Brett Kavanaugh. Again, it doesn't matter what you think about the

00:48:06.320 Covington kids or what you think about Brett Kavanaugh. They actually don't care. They do not care

00:48:10.800 about whether or not they're telling the truth. They don't care about whether or not they're

00:48:13.680 ruining people's lives. They really don't care.

00:48:17.600 Yeah, it's it's that this is what's scary is

00:48:24.960 despite there being massive video evidence, not just from us, but from the FBI even in HD showing

00:48:31.680 what happened at this event, despite the court, even the trial before the trial even happened,

00:48:37.600 that you can be X'd out of society based off of lies shows you just how far our nation's fallen and

00:48:45.520 how evil people really are and how much these people really hate America and want to send a

00:48:50.640 message to people. That's what I'm saying. You can you may be able to you may be able if you're

00:48:55.280 lucky and you have a good judge and the trial and the jury is not bullied, which they are being bullied,

00:48:59.360 by the way, George Floyd's relatives are working to dox all of the jury jurors on this on this trial.

00:49:03.840 You know, even mom, that's mob rule. That's what happens in third world.

00:49:07.840 That's democracy, which we don't have in this country. That's why we talk about democracy.

00:49:10.800 That's democracy is mob rule. We're a republic for a reason. We we don't we don't vote based

00:49:15.600 off of what fifty one percent bullies the other fifty percent. We have state electoral college and

00:49:19.680 we have representatives and we vote our representatives in because we try to prevent mob rule.

00:49:25.120 They like mob rule because that allows communism, which is like the revolution of less intelligent and

00:49:30.480 uglier people to to try to feel like they're gaining dominance, but they end up just becoming slaves.

00:49:34.800 But it's like this trial shows that our rights, even if the courts uphold them,

00:49:41.760 are being ignored and destroyed by the institutions and these private businesses that are pairing.

00:49:46.560 Remember, Joe Biden called Kyle Rittenhouse a white supremacist. Joe Biden did. That's defamation.

00:49:52.240 Now, let me remind people that Joe Biden of Joe Biden literally called someone. I don't even know

00:49:59.200 if I'm allowed to say this word, called someone in in E.G.R.O. today in a speech. He called someone

00:50:06.480 that in a speech. He said, oh, you know, the esteemed in E.G.R.O. Literally, that's the president.

00:50:12.720 So he's calling Kyle Rittenhouse, though, white supremacist. So that's good.

00:50:15.680 Yeah. Also, he said the N word multiple times and he said he doesn't want his kids to grow up in a

00:50:19.520 racial. Biden. Yeah. Yeah. Biden. Yeah. Biden.

00:50:23.520 You know what? I can't get into that. We can't go down the road. All I'm going to say is that is

00:50:27.200 that this is this is a very heavy moment. And if you're watching or you're listening,

00:50:30.880 please be praying for this family because I've sat down with his mother and extensively spoken to her,

00:50:35.520 Wendy Rittenhouse. And she's just so sweet. And she's just a middle American woman,

00:50:40.640 you know, like normal lady. And she just told me, like, our lives have been ruined forever

00:50:45.280 because my son used the right that that we were given by God that was written into law that was

00:50:51.680 saying, hey, you have the right to defend yourself in the way that the nation is defending pedophiles

00:50:56.160 and murderers and rioters rather than defending a young man who loved his country and decided to do

00:51:01.680 something. I will take an unpopular opinion and say I do think Kyle should have been there because I

00:51:08.480 think if the police aren't going to do their job, he will say, well, vigilante justice. Yeah, I'm under the

00:51:13.280 the prescription that the police have failed us and that it's up to us to defend our own

00:51:18.480 cities and our own property. And that is the most American thing you can do to go out and as a young

00:51:22.800 man to be brave and to go try to defend property that that the police in the city is letting people

00:51:29.040 burn to go defend your fellow neighbors and to do what's right. Even if you said, well, that's illegal.

00:51:33.600 Well, sometimes you have to do illegal things that are right. Abortion is legal. It's immoral.

00:51:38.880 It's wrong. Legality doesn't predicate morally right or superior. I mean, you can mutilate a

00:51:50.480 child's genitals and that's legal here in this country. You can castrate them chemically,

00:51:56.400 but it's wrong. It's disgusting and it's sick. And so don't try to demonize this guy being like,

00:52:01.360 oh, well, he shouldn't have been there. Well, then who was there? Who was there in his place that he was

00:52:05.600 replacing? Who was going to, who was going to defend that city? And maybe if more Americans

00:52:10.320 had stood up and took up arms and protected their cities, not only would the rioters stop,

00:52:15.920 the government would have seen, hey, like maybe they should be more afraid of us too.

00:52:20.400 But the government and the rioters both see American loving, God fearing people as weak

00:52:25.440 because we've become weak. And it's like, it's like, that's my point is it's going,

00:52:30.400 why? He's a Christian too, Kyle. He's a great, great guy. And it's like, he wanted to do what's

00:52:35.440 right. And he knew that it took doing something that could be kind of technically illegal to do

00:52:39.840 what needed to be done. And I commend him for it. Well, he probably thought all bets were off

00:52:44.240 because a lot of people were doing and getting away with things that were legal. It's arson is

00:52:48.240 also not legal. Looting is not legal. The violence that they saw in Kenosha was not legal. And so maybe

00:52:53.120 he thought, you know what? The law really doesn't matter anymore. If they're going to break the law,

00:52:56.560 I'm going to, too. I don't know if I'm on the same page as you that he should have been there,

00:53:00.560 although I do understand your point. And there is a difference in saying, well, I'm going to take

00:53:05.280 the law into my own hands and I'm going to go out and enact vengeance on someone who I perceive has

00:53:09.920 done me wrong. That's wrong. Like, obviously, that's not a trend we want to start. It's what

00:53:14.880 you're saying is that he wasn't going out there to kill someone. He wasn't on the offense. He was

00:53:19.040 merely on the defense. And he wasn't using violence to deter people didn't want to. But because he was

00:53:25.120 there, his presence was simply defending the things that he tried to defend. And then he had

00:53:30.080 to defend himself. That necessitated violence. They saved innocent life, though. Like, that's

00:53:36.400 what I'm saying. If they weren't there, though, Ali, like, no one talks about that. Like, they would

00:53:39.920 have, do you know how many people would have died if they blew up that gas station? And also,

00:53:44.560 the amount of, the amount of the way that they kept people from going into the residential areas.

00:53:48.800 Like, they saved people's personal homes. They saved children's lives. Like, no one's talking

00:53:52.800 about the lice that didn't, that weren't lost. Like, that would have been real victims. Like,

00:53:56.640 these, I'm telling you, I watched them keep so much more properties from burning down,

00:54:01.200 that some of the properties where people lived above them. So my point is, is like, I know where

00:54:05.600 you're coming from. And I respect it. But it's like, sometimes it's kind of like, yeah, it's like,

00:54:10.320 it's like that idea of like, you don't know the mass shooting that didn't happen, right? It's like,

00:54:13.680 you know, it's like, you don't know how heroic somebody is that like a school guard that talked a

00:54:17.360 kid out of, you know, shooting up a school. It's like, because it didn't happen. So you don't know about it. It's like,

00:54:21.360 the amount of people that didn't die because those guys were there is like, that's why my opinion is

00:54:27.920 what it is. Cause I'm going, I said, you were there. That's what I'm saying. I saw what they

00:54:31.360 prevented and I saw how they did it so peacefully without using violence and use their, their

00:54:37.040 presence to just deter evil that I'm going, maybe if more communities had just risen up,

00:54:42.560 I'm not talking about vigilantism. Yeah. I'm not talking about going out and just like,

00:54:45.280 you know, sniping off your roof, protesters that are walking by. I meant like,

00:54:48.720 if more people had went to their stores, stood out in front with guns and been like,

00:54:53.520 no, you're not taking my property. And it wasn't, that's why it wasn't just one guy in Dallas with

00:54:57.520 a machete. Like if all the shop owners had gotten together and stood in front of their shops said,

00:55:01.680 don't come down this street. And people had realized that Americans are not weak and that we don't need

00:55:06.160 the police to help us. And no, we are God fearing gun owning people who, who believe in property rights,

00:55:12.720 who believe in independence and autonomy. And we respect each other and we are not violent. We're not

00:55:17.120 vigilantes, but we do not allow and tolerate ourselves to be disrespected. Right. We do not

00:55:22.240 tolerate this. Destroyed. Yeah. And we did, we did let it happen. We did let it happen. And I watched,

00:55:27.760 you know, who was the most judgmental of, of my heart's been hardened a little bit, Allie,

00:55:31.440 I'll tell you the truth. Not, not only do I curse more now because I'm married to an Australian,

00:55:35.600 but it's like, I've seen some things. We talked about some of those things that we won't talk about

00:55:39.280 here on the show. Um, I, I, the world isn't a fun place for me anymore. It's, it's not, it's not a,

00:55:46.160 it's not a joke. There's a real war being waged and, and I see what's happening. And I'm looking

00:55:50.400 at my Christian brothers and I'm watching men who are like, Oh, I, you know, well, yeah, it's like,

00:55:56.480 well, I couldn't watch your show because you're cursed. You curse. I can't listen to your podcast,

00:56:00.400 slightly offensive, or you are here because, because you curse. And it's like, so you're going to choose

00:56:04.640 to be willfully ignorant and sit in your church and have no idea what's going on in the world

00:56:08.800 because the news stresses you out and you're upset that someone cursed. Would you be mad in your home?

00:56:13.440 If you were on, if you were in the civil war and troops walked in and they were bloodied and they

00:56:18.000 stained your carpet? No, you wouldn't because those troops, yeah, they're a little dirty. Yes,

00:56:22.000 they're bleeding on your carpet, but they're in a war. They're fighting a real battle. And so, yes,

00:56:26.960 there's some sides that it's, you don't want your carpet stained, but it's like, look, you get it.

00:56:30.640 They're the ones fighting. The people like you at the front of the culture war, the people that I've

00:56:36.400 met and the many brave reporters and people in the military and the leakers and the people that are

00:56:41.120 fighting to prevent a civil war in this country right now, it's a nasty place. It's a very expensive

00:56:46.080 legal battle. Like I said, I've been very damaged. The trauma that I've seen people, like I had to go

00:56:53.600 from my mom's funeral to a riot. Like that's how, that's how dumb the world was. I couldn't even grieve

00:56:58.640 my mom's death because the world was so stupid that I had to go watch other people die without

00:57:03.440 getting to mourn my own mother's death. And I had to confront the trauma of my mom's death

00:57:08.080 by seeing other people's livers get blown up. And so I'm like, I'm telling Christians,

00:57:14.160 it's like, that's what I'm saying is the church people email me. Oh, you know, you,

00:57:16.960 you said this and it was mean. It's like, buddy, we're in a fight for our nation. We're in a fight

00:57:21.840 for our country. How many more people need to die? Do you need $4 billion worth of damage

00:57:27.120 before you need to realize the world's not about clutching your pearls? I'm not telling

00:57:30.720 you to curse. I'm not telling you to become hardened. I don't want you to see what I've

00:57:34.400 seen. I don't want you to go through it, but wake up people, join the fight, stand up for yourself.

00:57:40.400 People go, well, you know, I might lose my job. Christ said that you may need to give your life.

00:57:46.480 Like, like you, you think in the last days that you would refuse the mark of the beast,

00:57:52.960 but you wouldn't even sacrifice being judged by your friends to not get a vaccine. And maybe

00:57:57.200 you wanted the vaccine. That's fine. But I know people who really didn't want it,

00:57:59.760 that thought it was that they shouldn't get it. And we're like, yeah, but I don't want to lose my

00:58:02.880 job. Okay. So you would resist the mark of the beast. You said, I'll stand up for Christ in the

00:58:06.640 last days where the cost is your head, but you won't give up your crappy $40,000, your job that you

00:58:12.160 already hate that you don't complain about. And you always talk about leaving and doing your own thing.

00:58:15.920 You wouldn't even give that up for your, for a simple moral choice, but you would resist the mark of

00:58:20.560 the beast. I don't believe it. And that's why I said Christians are weak. And I just want people

00:58:24.160 to realize that if you have not woken up, if you have not joined the fight now, wake up,

00:58:28.480 share this podcast, share Ali's work and start joining in the good fight of faith with your

00:58:34.160 brothers and sisters that are, we need you. Like we need you. And I need you. And if you, even if,

00:58:38.800 and I'm saying this, this is not just if the best thing you can be doing right now. And to start

00:58:43.280 is if you're not praying, start praying for what's going on and call upon God, but also realize that you are

00:58:49.840 the hands and the feet of Christ, get them dirty, get busy and start doing things for the kingdom of

00:58:54.960 God. And I believe that we can win this. I think we could reverse this and we can overcome this.

00:59:00.640 If the Christians get out of their pews, get off their butts and start doing the work of God.

00:59:05.440 And on that point, like you said, one of the most important things that people can be doing is praying

00:59:11.280 that the front lines looks different for everyone. Like I'm not going to be the person that's going to go

00:59:15.840 out to the riots and film it. That's you. And we need those kinds of people to expose the darkness

00:59:21.200 that's going on. And everyone kind of has a different role. The most important thing that

00:59:26.080 you can do is yes, to pray for wisdom and to be woken up. This really isn't about right versus

00:59:31.600 left. Like you talked about some of the failings of the Trump administration. I think we could go on

00:59:35.440 and on about the fecklessness of most Republicans. So this really isn't about right versus left,

00:59:40.000 Republican versus Democrat. This really is about wrong versus right, justice versus injustice,

00:59:44.960 reality versus lies. That's what this is about. And like you said, it's a spiritual battle. And I

00:59:50.320 don't want to hear people conflating, you know, what Ephesians 6 talks about as a spiritual battle

00:59:55.840 against the evil forces of darkness with just our petty American politics. We're not trying to say

01:00:01.600 that what we are experiencing in America is the biggest thing that's going on in the universe.

01:00:06.240 What we're trying to say is the biggest thing that's going on in the universe that America is

01:00:10.240 playing a part of, as every country is, is a battle of light versus dark. It just is. And there is a

01:00:17.120 part of that, a piece of that, that we do see in this particular trial. It's corrupt. It's calling

01:00:22.160 evil good and good evil is perpetuating lies. No matter how this trial goes, which I think it's looking

01:00:28.320 good for Kyle Rittenhouse. Like you said, they're trying to teach him a lesson. More than that,

01:00:32.720 they're trying to teach everyone else a lesson that you better not stick up for yourself. Like,

01:00:36.640 you better not show people what's going on. Um, but also they are, um, they're, they're trying to

01:00:45.200 demonize an entire side that does want to speak up about the truth. And they're trying to scare

01:00:50.320 people. They're trying to belittle people. They're trying to tell people, you know what,

01:00:53.440 just, um, just enjoy these petty enjoyments that we've given you through Netflix and fast food,

01:01:01.280 and don't worry about the things that are actually going on. Um, and so the first step is for people

01:01:07.120 to no longer be in the slumber of ignorance that is so comfortable. Yeah. And I, I do want to say

01:01:12.800 thank you to you as somebody who has been honest with your audience, as you've been on your journey,

01:01:20.240 like that people don't realize that if they're listening for the first time, or this is like

01:01:24.400 the millionth time I've listened to you, what you're like 500 episodes or something, right?

01:01:27.520 Yeah. So maybe they've been from the beginning is that we're all on this. Like, like, don't look

01:01:32.320 to people like Ali be like, well, she's got it figured out. She knows something. I don't,

01:01:34.960 she literally doesn't know something that you don't. And I don't either. Like we're just people.

01:01:39.680 And we want to see the world better. And like you said, that's the key thing that people say,

01:01:43.840 well, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Search the heart of God and see and know God,

01:01:49.760 know light, recognize where the darkness is and bring light into that dark place. And that,

01:01:55.200 that's why it might not, it's probably not going to be on the front lines of, of violent warfare or,

01:01:59.200 you know, overseas or something like that. But you, you get familiar with Christ, then you can

01:02:05.440 recognize after, you know, his presence, where something is going against his character and his

01:02:09.200 nature and go, you know what, I'm going to bring God's nature into this. And then also I will know

01:02:14.880 that no matter what the dangers are in this, whether it's a reputational, financial, um, relational,

01:02:20.320 you know, any of these types of risks that you could take to affect change. And they are serious

01:02:25.040 and I'm not diminishing them. Um, you go into that realizing, and I want to give you confidence

01:02:30.800 to people, to people listening to this. I should be dead right now. A hundred percent. You should

01:02:37.280 be fully canceled and shouldn't have a job because of the things that you've stood up against. The only

01:02:42.560 reason why we're still here now living is because it is not God's time for us to go. It is not God's

01:02:49.280 time for us to die. And it has not been God's time for our voices to be snuffed out in this fight.

01:02:53.520 And I, the Lord has told me that into my, my, to my ear that he, I will only fall when his hand

01:02:58.000 allows me to. And even then I can have peace. And that's true of everyone. I mean,

01:03:01.520 Jesus says that not a sparrow falls from the sky apart from the father's will.

01:03:05.600 And how much more valuable are we human beings, children of God,

01:03:10.320 than two sparrows that are sold for a penny. So that's absolutely true.

01:03:12.800 I didn't think about that verse, but that is, no, yeah, literally. That's why if you're listening

01:03:17.040 to this, know that God, God's hand of favors on you. And I just want people to be filled with

01:03:21.120 that confidence. Like, that's why people will say something like, well, how does it,

01:03:24.000 like, how does Ali just like say these things? Like, I wish I was more comfortable and I wish

01:03:27.280 I could say these things too. It's like, well, cause she has the power of God

01:03:29.840 and God is keeping you where you're at.

01:03:31.840 Well, all Christians do.

01:03:32.720 That's what I'm saying, but you have it, but that's my point though, is I'm going,

01:03:34.880 you have the power of God. So if you're listening to this and you know, God,

01:03:38.480 where did God in the Bible say that Ali's power is, cause she has a microphone is different than your

01:03:42.880 power. Cause you don't, it's not true. God's power is equal for all of us. And he has given us

01:03:48.000 his, his divine intervention of his Holy spirit that has given us the ability. He literally says

01:03:53.360 that we will hold snakes and we're not going to die. We're not going to be bitten. And he doesn't

01:03:57.440 mean to go, you know, scam people and pick up cobras to look like an idiot and tell people, look,

01:04:01.600 I'm a Christian. He meant whatever God is asking you to do, have the confidence that he will give you

01:04:06.720 the strength to do it. Don't worry about having the strength. Now act first in accordance with God's

01:04:11.760 wisdom, the strength will come and you will learn so much about the power of God. Your faith will

01:04:16.720 increase tenfold. And when you're, when, when your actions and your works pair up with your faith

01:04:21.920 and you see, and you go, Oh my gosh, it's not just like Billy Graham that can do mighty things.

01:04:26.640 Like whoever you are, wherever you are, whatever age you are, whatever gender you are, is that God can

01:04:33.040 use you mightily to do great things. And he has marked us in this day and age. And he has made you alive

01:04:38.560 in this time such as this to be that light and that salt. And I am telling you, it is so exciting.

01:04:45.200 And if you're bored in life or you're confused on the next step, ask God and take that jump and you

01:04:50.400 won't regret it. Yeah. And like I said, it looks so different for everyone. Like people can be excited

01:04:56.080 about that opportunity. Like if you're a stay at home mom, most of what you're doing is changing

01:05:00.960 diapers and you're feeding kids and you're cleaning dishes and things. And people might think, well,

01:05:05.440 there's no role for me in all of this. That's not true. That is absolutely not true. Like those

01:05:10.560 things can be done with excellence in faith and for the glory of God. You have no idea what you're

01:05:14.480 doing when you're discipling kids, when you're making disciples of Christ. And when you are

01:05:20.800 caring for your kids, like that is a role that matters. And it's really easy for us to be like,

01:05:24.880 I hate living in this time because of all of these complications. And you know, our parents didn't

01:05:28.800 have to think about all the crazy stuff that we have to think about. That's true. But as you said,

01:05:32.800 God in his sovereignty placed us and our kids and our children's children exactly on the spot,

01:05:38.640 in the span of eternity that he wanted to place us, he's going to equip Christians for this specific

01:05:43.440 moment. And it's actually really exciting to me that the theological and philosophical,

01:05:48.320 ideological things that my parents really didn't have to tell me, they didn't have to explain like,

01:05:52.560 what's a woman? What's a man? Like, here's what evil looks like. I was kind of, you know,

01:05:56.720 we were kind of insulated, lived in the Bible belt. You didn't, but I did. And so I didn't,

01:06:02.640 you know, we took a lot of things for granted. I can't do that. We can't do that with our kids

01:06:06.000 anymore. And that's almost exciting that I like get the opportunity to tell my kids what is truth

01:06:11.040 down to the most fundamental of it. So that is an exciting part. I don't want people to hear that

01:06:16.480 you have to be out in Kenosha like you are. Every single Christian has a part in pushing back

01:06:21.840 against darkness with the power of the gospel, no matter where God has placed you.

01:06:25.760 I, and I, you know what, I agree. And I also want to say to your audience and to you guys,

01:06:30.160 you guys are so epic. And the way that you guys represent Christ, that's exactly the side thing

01:06:35.840 too, is like someone like me is not always the best example. And I apologize because, you know,

01:06:41.680 I, like I said, I have some, I have some things I got to work on. I got some, we all do.

01:06:44.880 Yeah, but I'm like serious. I got some serious issues that I'm, that I'm working through.

01:06:48.640 And, and it's like, don't also, that's what I was going to say is that if you're not

01:06:52.480 like some, some of you might be listening back, Oh, even like, Oh, I like, I'm not like

01:06:57.040 good enough. It's like your perfection is from Christ. And you trust me, I'm going to tell you

01:07:02.720 this. You don't have to wait till you get over that one addiction or that one sin, or you change

01:07:07.040 that character flaw or you, yeah. Or you like, even as a time thing or tell that one kid grows up or,

01:07:12.240 you know, tell your husband gets to the raise or whatever it is that you're thinking like,

01:07:15.840 that's when I'm going to act. Like it's, I needed, I need to get there to be better and

01:07:19.600 stronger and mightier. It's like, I am a perfect example of an idiot who is not that bright and has

01:07:27.760 a lot of world, like world issues and flesh issues that can still be used by God because the work is

01:07:33.200 God's work. That's why I can't take credit for it. And I just want people to be encouraged that like,

01:07:36.960 it's kind of like, if God can use someone like me, you're probably a better person than I am if you

01:07:40.800 listen to the show. And so God will definitely use you in mighty ways. And thank you for being

01:07:45.520 a good example of a Christian because we all got things that we're working on. No, we, oh my gosh,

01:07:50.720 we all do. No, thank you for your courage. And thank you for coming on to talk to us about this.

01:07:57.020 Obviously, like, I think we planned, we were going to go like 15 minutes and it's over an hour. And so

01:08:01.920 we could talk, I could talk for so much longer because you're really a fascinating person. And I love

01:08:06.180 your passion. And I love how you've helped people. I love seeing the messages that people send you

01:08:11.300 that tell you that you've woken them up, not just politically, but theologically as well. And

01:08:17.100 that's a big deal. So thank you for what you do. And thanks for taking the time to come on.

01:08:20.900 Thank you so much for having me.

01:08:26.160 Mr. Rosenbaum. Mr. Rosenbaum was now running from my right side.

01:08:33.840 Um, and I was cornered from in front of me with Mr. Zeminski and there were there were

01:08:53.820 people right there.

01:09:00.820 Let's take a deep breath.

01:09:07.820 That's what I run.

01:09:12.620 That's what I run.

01:09:19.100 so if that broke your heart which i'm sure it did i got a lot of messages from a lot of you

01:09:35.260 saying that reminds me of my son it reminds me of my friend that reminds me of my brother

01:09:42.040 no matter what the lying ghouls on social media say and there are a lot of lying ghouls

01:09:48.780 they're calling rittenhouse a white supremacist they're calling him a terrorist they're making

01:09:55.220 fun of him for crying lebron lebron james tweeted out um that oh there were no tears basically those

01:10:03.400 are are fake tears he just ate something sour before he got into court um there was a blue

01:10:10.360 check mark a liberal blue check mark by the name of tara dublin um she tweeted out a picture of him

01:10:17.080 crying on the stand and she said that's the same face kyle rittenhouse will make during his first

01:10:22.120 time in the prison shower so joking about kyle rittenhouse being raped in prison anna navarro

01:10:27.860 of i think she's of cnn um she says that she is mourning for the three people that attacked him

01:10:35.080 that he had to shoot and called his tears crocodile tears um there are people saying that this is just

01:10:43.340 the face of white privilege there's another blue check mark who goes by i guess his name is kirk

01:10:48.900 acevedo he says he has zero sympathy for kyle rittenhouse black and latino kids have been

01:10:53.500 imprisoned and killed just for the color of their skin so this is the kind of thing unfortunately that

01:10:59.280 people are saying i mean you heard those tears i see the tears they're not fake no matter what you

01:11:05.500 think about why he was there that's irrelevant this is a kid whose life has been ruined by mostly lies

01:11:10.000 so i'm feeling so much indignation such disgust such such righteous anger and how do i know it's

01:11:16.680 righteous because it's anger about deliberately malicious lies it's anger over false witness and god

01:11:25.160 the source of all righteousness says that he hates false witness in ancient israel god demands those who

01:11:30.100 knowingly bear false witness against someone on trial that they should receive the same punishment that

01:11:35.200 the accused would have gotten had he been convicted it's a good thing that we don't live in ancient

01:11:39.640 israel because most on the left would be in jail they accused kavanaugh of gang rape the covington

01:11:45.620 teenager of intimidating a native american at a pro-life rally when the full video showed that that

01:11:49.960 didn't happen at all they said border patrol agents were whipping migrants and treating them

01:11:54.160 like cattle based on one out of context picture turns out the video is released of that and that's not

01:12:00.180 even close to what actually happened there was no whipping of people at all they perpetuated for

01:12:05.160 years that trump colluded with the russians to win the election that was a lie

01:12:08.200 we know now from reports released this week and last week that that was a total fabrication

01:12:12.720 it was a farce paid for by the clinton campaign they said that ron de santis was refusing and

01:12:17.700 encouraging uh refusing to encourage vaccines and and was somehow financially benefiting from

01:12:22.420 monoclonal antibodies that was literally just a bald-faced lie and all those people targeted by these

01:12:28.760 lies have had their lives and their families life severely damaged because of lies there's not

01:12:36.680 left and right as i was saying with elijah there's right and wrong it just so happens that in the cases

01:12:42.940 that we're talking about that the left routinely gets it wrong they peddle in blatant lies an epidemic

01:12:49.480 of racialized police brutality is a lie as we have talked about many times and have gone through the

01:12:55.340 data so many times the gender wage gap is a lie that a man can become a woman is a lie that a baby

01:13:01.140 in the womb is just a clump of cells is a lie that the rich don't pay any taxes is a lie that america is

01:13:07.000 a place primarily characterized by oppression and racism is a lie that mask mandates and vaccine

01:13:12.580 passports are saving lives that's a lie the numbers show that's a lie critical race theory isn't in

01:13:18.180 schools a lie that our biggest threat in this country today is white supremacy are you kidding me

01:13:23.540 that's a huge lie that our planet is going to become irreversibly unlivable in less than 12 years

01:13:29.880 that's a lie it's been a lie since the 1970s you know i'm so used i'm so used to the lies that

01:13:37.120 sometimes i forget that almost my entire job is characterized by debunking lies now i'm not saying

01:13:42.660 that people on the right never lie again i don't think that this is primarily left versus right so i'm

01:13:47.440 not saying that at all there are sniveling snakes on both sides of the aisle absolutely like maybe you

01:13:52.840 would say that the lies about the election led to some of the behavior we saw on january 6th okay

01:13:57.580 maybe that's that that's one but the big lies that end up shaping false narratives that turn

01:14:03.780 into cnn and msnbc segments that are then paraded out by big tech and big business and big pharma and

01:14:12.340 all of the major national and global institutions all of those that fan the flame uh for the riots that

01:14:20.720 have burned and looted and ruined american cities over the past year the kind of lies that affect

01:14:26.300 destructive policy and so much resentment and confusion and chaos yes these are most often from

01:14:33.480 the left they just happen to be from the left their lies primarily they're wrong primarily they happen to

01:14:39.280 be coming from the left and these people who will just completely make up a story about a person if it

01:14:45.540 helps their political side whether it's about trump or kyle rittenhouse or nick sandman they're vicious

01:14:50.420 they truly don't care if it ruins your life they don't care if it's true it just feels good it just

01:14:56.300 feels good to them if they get clicks and claps and affirmation then they're on the right side they're

01:15:02.500 on the right side of history and they don't care the ends justify the means to them they have no

01:15:08.020 limiting principles no moral boundaries and idiots just go along with their lies because it takes too much

01:15:13.240 effort and courage to ask and follow a simple question but is that true but is that true is it

01:15:20.940 true that white police officers are going after disproportionately black unarmed men the numbers say

01:15:26.800 no is it true that women with the same qualifications hours work and education are getting paid less than

01:15:33.160 men the numbers say no is it true that a man can become a woman no is it true that mask mandates

01:15:38.800 and schools have lowered the case or death rate at all for kids and communities no and on it goes but

01:15:45.200 too many people don't want to ask that question they don't want to ask the question is this true because

01:15:49.080 it's scary because it's inconvenient it can put you in opposition to the people that you like

01:15:53.220 so you're going to see a bunch of people saying wow yes kyle rittenhouse is such a racist he's a

01:15:59.640 terrorist what a terrible person innocent these are innocent victims if this were a black person wow

01:16:04.720 look at this random case of a black person where they were actually convicted of homicide wow that

01:16:09.920 proves white privilege and white supremacy because he's not going to be convicted here

01:16:13.580 there's no evidence of that and if you want to compare anecdotes like we can do that all day

01:16:18.840 i mean what about timothy simpkins he's a teenager who happens to be black in the dallas area who shot

01:16:24.400 up a classroom at school in october was released on bail almost immediately he says he shot up the class

01:16:29.980 because he was bullied for being rich he was then welcomed home by a party that was posted on social

01:16:34.980 media i haven't heard anything about that story since the media certainly hasn't talked about it

01:16:39.620 hasn't trended on social media no one cared after he was released from jail after shooting multiple

01:16:43.320 people in his classroom like the media would not have stopped talking about that if he had been white

01:16:48.560 so and i'm not saying that that is some that's indicative of some systemic problem i'm just saying

01:16:54.020 that if you want to compare stories we can do that there's a longer list of names of unarmed white

01:16:58.920 men killed by the police and unarmed black men but most most of us don't know their names because

01:17:03.120 no one riots for them the truth is comparing and contrasting anecdotes doesn't really make for good

01:17:08.860 argumentation you're going to see that a lot with kyle rittenhouse but it's really fallacious

01:17:12.920 and it definitely doesn't work here because this had nothing to do with race it's just that

01:17:18.480 the reason why this is being talked about the way it is the reason why he's being mocked

01:17:23.320 is because rittenhouse represents conservatives and the pedophile he shot apparently represents

01:17:30.120 leftists i mean that's what they're saying in the media and so that's where people are coming from

01:17:34.760 that's it and they'll do the same thing to anyone that's why all this matters guys they will do the

01:17:40.600 same thing to anyone they'll do it to you they'll do it to your son they'll do it to your daughter

01:17:45.180 they don't care no matter what the facts are it won't matter if your son or daughter gets

01:17:51.260 accused of something and the political climate is just right and they can at least convince the

01:17:55.600 thoughtless mob and the media enough and people online enough that you're some that they're some

01:18:01.280 kind of bigot then it won't matter what the truth actually is as long as corruption and dishonesty and

01:18:06.980 mob rule and jury intimidation and threats of riots reign that's third world country stuff that cannot

01:18:14.240 stand in a place that cares about justice so this really shouldn't be partisan it really should not i wish

01:18:20.580 it weren't partisan you should be able to see why a fair trial a right to due process the right to

01:18:27.500 self-defense is necessary this should not be a partisan issue guys and his life is going to be ruined

01:18:34.560 because of this because of false narratives you might be like me and you might say he shouldn't have

01:18:38.700 been there he shouldn't have had a gun you know what if he was my son i say yes i wouldn't have wanted

01:18:43.740 my son there there's different perspectives on that but that's really besides the point when it comes to

01:18:48.340 this particular trial people raising their fists in the name of justice don't even know what justice

01:18:52.720 is if christians aren't willing to say this is what god says justice is this is justice justice has to

01:18:58.880 be linked has to be synonymous with righteousness which has to be synonymous with truth it can't just

01:19:04.320 be a perpetuation of false narratives if christians can't say that no one will don't be on the side of

01:19:09.260 lies just because it's comfortable guys it's not time for that like it's expired for that kind of

01:19:14.200 complacency why do we talk about this because culture and politics matter they affect the real

01:19:19.780 lives of people they affected this guy they'll affect you and your family too that we live in a

01:19:25.200 country with actual justice and fair trials matters the truth matters like i said intense episode for

01:19:32.820 today sorry to end your week like that but it's important monday we'll be back here with some

01:19:37.540 edification and some more light-hearted conversations and um i'll see you back here then thanks for listening

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - November 13, 2021

Ep 522 ｜ SPECIAL EPISODE： The Truth About Kyle Rittenhouse ｜ Guest： Elijah Schaffer

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