Ep 551 ｜ My Take on Pastor Mike Todd’s Spit Take
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Pastor Mike Todd spit on a member of his own church and people were grossed out by it. Listen to find out what people had to say about it and if they agree or disagree with it!
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sure you check that out. All right. We're talking about a few things today, depending on how much
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time I spend on this first subject. You guys probably anticipated that I would talk about
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this at some point, and that is that viral Mike Todd clip that has been circulating. Mike Todd is a
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pastor out of Tulsa, Oklahoma. He pastors a church called Transformation Church there. He is a very
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well-known pastor in evangelical circles. I'm pretty sure that his church is a pretty big church. I don't
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know if I'd go so far as to say it's a mega church. I'm not sure, but it's a pretty popular church. He's
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written a few books. He's been very influential on the subject of dating and relationships especially,
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and I've seen some interviews that he has done on that subject, and it's very good. He's got a lot
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of good things to say there. In my humble opinion, I would say that that is his biggest strength is
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talking about relationships and how to date and to be married in a way that glorifies God. So like
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with anyone, there is a lot of good to what he says and what he preaches and how he influences people
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to try to live like Christ through their dating and marriage relationships. So that is great. I don't
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know if I agree with everything he said on those subjects because I haven't read or listened to
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everything that he has said on them, but what I have seen and heard has been pretty good. He's had a lot of
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good insight. Now, where I think that maybe our friend Mike Todd could improve, and I say our friend
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not literally because I don't know him. I've never communicated with him, and I don't know anyone that
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has ever communicated with him, but where I think Mike Todd could probably improve is in the preaching
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arena as we saw in this viral clip. This viral clip is from a sermon that he preached last Monday
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where he spit into his hand and he rubbed his saliva on a church member in order to make a point. We will
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talk about the point that he was trying to make after I show you, and I apologize. I apologize for
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showing you this clip, but I had to see it, so you have to see it. I'm going to be reacting in real
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time. I've only seen it all the way through once, so this will be my second time, and I am bearing this
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for you. If you're watching this on YouTube, enjoy. Here we go.
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Yeah, because the vision I'm about to give you.
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Guys, that's his spit that he's rubbing together in his hands, so he just hawked a loogie, rubbed it in his
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hands, and is putting it on this guy's eyes. It's dripping off his face.
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Hey, do you hear and see the responses of the people?
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Oh my goodness, guys. Oh my goodness. If you're asking yourself why in the world was that necessary,
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I think that's a really good question. So social media lit up with responses. There were a lot of
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really funny tweets. Like if you just type in Mike Todd on Twitter, you'll see a lot of funny tweets.
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Some of them were rude, and I don't think that that is necessary. Like trying to personally attack
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him. I don't think that's right. But there were a lot of really funny responses to what he did. So
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just check that out if you've got an extra 10 minutes and you want to laugh. Some people had
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some humorous things to say about that, and a lot of people were grossed out. I mean, there were
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articles written about this. People on Instagram were reposting it and talking about it. Twitter,
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every social media outlet was like, what the heck is going on? This is so gross. And obviously people
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pointed out that we are in the midst of COVID. And even if you are someone who is not worried about
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COVID and you're kind of thinking, okay, we're over the worst of this pandemic, spreading Omicron is
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not that big of a deal. Even if that is your position, this is disgusting. This is disgusting.
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As someone who considers myself a germaphobe and a little bit of a hypochondriac, this might be on
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the list of my top 10 biggest fears. So Mike Todd realized that he was getting backlash. I guess he
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just opened up his phone. He probably got some texts from some friends saying, you know what,
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what she did on Sunday. It wasn't just the audience there that was grossed out. Everyone
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on planet earth that saw it is grossed out. Maybe you should respond. So he decided to release an
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apology clip and we'll play just 30 seconds of it right here. Hey, what's going on everybody? I hope
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you're having an amazing Monday. I just want to acknowledge what happened yesterday when the spit
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hit the fan. I watched it back and it was disgusting. Like that was gross. I want to validate
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everybody's feelings. That that was a distraction to what I was really trying to do. I was really
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trying to make the word come alive and for people to see the story. But yesterday it got too live and
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I own that. Okay. So he goes on to basically just expound upon that. And at the end, he says a funny
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comment about how he spit on his friend and his friend is still bald. So I thought that was funny.
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He has a good sense of humor. You can see why people like following him and listening to him
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because he's very dynamic and he comes across as a very kind, very charitable. And he kind of just
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draws you in. And like I said, he has a really good sense of humor and everyone likes that
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in a communicator, even a communicator of the word. I think it's really important
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to have good dynamic communication skills. And he, of course, has that. He also goes on in this
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apology clip to say, you know, we should really listen to the whole sermon because things kind of
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got out of hand. He was trying to make the word come alive, but he still believed that the message
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that he preached was really important. And so I did that. I listened to the sermon because I did
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want to give him the benefit of the doubt. And you know what? I appreciated that he made a video
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apologizing and that he acknowledged it. We did an episode a couple months ago, a few months ago,
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I think it was in October about a particular comment that was made in a sermon and posted on Facebook
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by Stephen Furtick. And we will link that episode in the description to this episode. And I got some
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pushback on that. A lot of people, however, appreciated it. I tried to be as charitable as possible while
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still explaining what he said was not just a little bit wrong, but actually anti-biblical, not just
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unbiblical, but anti-biblical, and anti-gospel. He basically said that Jesus doesn't make you into
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a new person. He just turns you into, or he shows you who you always were. I'm paraphrasing that. And
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we talked about how scripture says that we are actually new people. We go from death to life. We
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are made into new creations. The old has passed, the new has come. And it's actually a very important
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distinction between what the gospel says, what scripture says, and what Stephen Furtick said
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there. And so this reminded me, this whole situation reminded me of that. But Stephen Furtick
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never apologized. He never explained or clarified as far as I know. Maybe he did, and I just didn't
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see it or hear it. But I looked for that, and I didn't see that. The post was deleted after some
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backlash, and that was it. So I do appreciate, in the spirit of transparency, Mike Todd coming out
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acknowledging, hey, yeah, that was gross. That was a problem. But he does say in this apology
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video, please go and listen to the whole sermon. So because I liked the apology, and I wanted to
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kind of take him at his word, and plus I just think this is important in general, I went back
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and I listened to the sermon. And just to be honest, I only listened to the first 45 minutes
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or so of it. I wanted to make sure that I got the context around this incident, but I also wanted
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the lead up to it to really know what he was talking about. I'm like, you know what, maybe he
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had some amazing expository preaching leading up to this, and it did just kind of, he was just trying
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to give a demonstration, and it did just get out of hand. He didn't realize how disgusting it would be.
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All right, that would be one thing. That was not the case. That was not the case. I listened to the
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first 45 minutes of it, and I felt so tense the entire time I was listening because of
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the blatant mishandling of the word of God. Because this was, and I can't speak to all of
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his sermons, and I'm not talking about him in general. You guys know I don't throw around
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the labels like false teacher, false prophet, and things like that. I'm not saying that because
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I just don't know. Maybe there are some of you who you wish that I threw around those labels
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more about certain pastors and teachers. I just don't because I don't have all of the information
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and the knowledge to throw around those labels, and I just don't think it's the most helpful
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and productive thing. So that's not what I'm saying. I'm talking about this particular sermon
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that I heard was not a sound sermon. It was not preaching the word of God, and it seems like
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because I listened to the first 45 minutes, and because I listened to the context around
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this incident, it doesn't seem like it was something where he was just preaching from the
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word, and he wanted the word to come alive. It actually seems like he worked himself up
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so much because he was getting so much positive feedback from the audience every time he said
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some kind of soundbite that he wanted a bigger reaction. I don't know. Maybe that's not true,
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but that is certainly how it came across. And speaking of Stephen Furtick, this sermon reminded
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me so much of what Stephen Furtick does. And it is called, as we talked about in that Stephen
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Furtick episode, eisegetical preaching, where you take a verse, or really you take an idea,
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and then you find a verse to kind of support the idea or the theme that you want to preach on.
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So you take a verse. In this case, the verse that he used was Proverbs 29, 18. He used the
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message version, I think, but this is the English Standard Version that says,
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where there is no prophetic vision, the people cast off restraint, but blessed is he who keeps
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the law. And basically, the sermon, or at least the first 45 minutes, maybe the last hour or so of it
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was way better than the first 45 minutes that I listened to, but he basically just uses this as a
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springboard to talk about the idea of vision and how you might be in a situation that you thought
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you were supposed to be in, but you didn't wait on God's vision. You might be in a situation where
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your vision is foggy, metaphorically speaking, but you don't know what the future holds, and you got
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to wait for God's vision. You got to ask for God's vision. Okay, is that what this verse is talking
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about? I don't think so. Actually, we don't even know, based on his sermon, what this verse is
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talking about. He doesn't talk about the context. He doesn't talk about the author. He doesn't talk
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about who this verse is speaking to, what this verse is actually talking about, what this verse
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tells us about God. Instead, he spent almost the entirety of the first 45 minutes talking about
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different hypothetical scenarios in which someone might be seeking vision. And that's the problem
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with a sermon that is almost exclusively focused on practical application. So there is a place for
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practical application, but that's not why the Bible was written. The Bible is about God. It's not about
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you or your situation. Now, what the Bible says about God and what a verse actually means may very well
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apply to your situation. It probably does in a particular way. But the sermon that I heard,
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the first 45 minutes of a sermon that I heard, makes it seem like the Bible in this particular
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verse, Proverbs 29, 18, is about you. It's talking about your relationship with your boyfriend. It's
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talking about the job promotion that you want. It's talking about that confusing situation that you're
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in. Again, it might apply to those things in a particular way, but we don't even know how a verse
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applies to our particular situation unless we first know what a verse means. And that is part of a
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preacher's job is to tell us what a verse means, not just what a verse means to you, but what does the
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verse mean? And in order to know what a verse means, you have to know the context. You have to know
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who is saying it, why they're saying it, what the historical context was, what the cultural context
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was, what the original language is telling us. You have to know what the verse actually means,
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not just what the verse means to you. I honestly don't really even know what the point was of the
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first 45 minutes of the sermon. I really did go in with an open mind thinking, okay, you know what?
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Like I said, maybe this is an amazing sermon and this just kind of went off rails.
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There certainly is grace for that. But the first 45 minutes, I wish you guys could have seen my
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face. It was, I almost felt like I was in pain because it was such a mishandling of the word of
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God. Because there was so little preaching of the word of God in it. There is so much in the gospel,
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guys. There is so much in scripture to be dissected, to be analyzed, to be preached. It is actually
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sufficient for our encouragement. It is sufficient for reproof. It is sufficient for correction. It is
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sufficient for what we need to live a godly life that we don't have to travel outside of it.
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And what I think happened in this whole spit take, if you will, is like I said, I think that it was,
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okay, how far can I go to kind of continue to get a reaction? How far can I travel in order to
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really make my point? But that's unnecessary. We don't need those kinds of illustrations.
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We don't need those kinds of spectacles. We don't need those kinds of viral clips. You know why?
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Because the gospel is scandalous. The gospel in itself is scandalous. The Bible in itself is
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controversial. We don't need you to spit on a church member to see what the reaction is in order
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to try to make a completely convoluted point about what this passage means. And he also, he didn't just
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use Proverbs 29, 18. He also used John 9, the story of Jesus using his saliva to make mud and to put
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the mud on the eyes of someone who was born blind in order to heal him. And he completely bungles that as
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well. So in the portion of the sermon where he actually does this, the hawking of the loogie and
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the spitting and putting it on one of his congregants eyes, he is talking about Jesus giving a man vision.
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And this is something that I also see Stephen Furtick do a lot. They will use a passage from
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the Bible. For example, Jesus in John 9, it says in verse 6, he spit on the ground and made mud with
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the saliva. Then he anointed the man's eyes with the mud and said, go wash in the pool of Siloam,
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which means sent. So he went and washed and came back seen. So what eisegetical pastors will often do
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is they will use a passage and then they will use it as a metaphor. So again, rather than saying,
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okay, here's what this verse means. Here's why what Jesus did is so stunning. What does this tell
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us about Jesus? What does this tell us about the God that we serve? What is the historical cultural
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context here? What does this text actually mean? They will use it as a springboard and a metaphor to
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make the point that they want to make. So because I don't think I totally clarified this earlier,
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although we've talked about this before, eisegetical means that you are putting meaning
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into the text. Exegetical, which is the proper way to preach the word of God, and this is something
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that I have learned from listening to many exegetical preachers over the past, you know, while I have been
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a Christian, this is not something, I'm not a preacher, so I'm not saying it from that perspective.
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I've learned from very wise people what exegetical expository preaching looks like, and that is
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drawing the meaning out of the text. So you go to the text and you say, what does it say? And what
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does it mean? What does it tell us about God? What does it tell us about sin? It is not, what do I want
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the text to say? Or what do I want to say? And how can I get the text to then support what I want to
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say? Now, you can preach eisegetically and not necessarily say something unbiblical. You could
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say, I want to talk about the glory of God. What verses can I use to support that? That's not
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necessarily bad. That's not necessarily going to lead you to some kind of unbiblical conclusion.
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But even so, when you go to the text, you are looking for what the text actually means, not what you
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want it to mean, and not what it means to you. So eisegetical preaching gets us into all kinds of
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dangerous zones because we are fallible. And so we want to say something. We want scripture to support
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what we say. And so we are going to bend over backwards and use all kinds of crazy tricks to
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try to get the Bible to support what we want to say and the point that we want to make, when really
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the Bible makes the point. And we draw out what the point is using careful study and understanding
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of scripture. So he uses John 9 and he uses this miracle of Jesus using his saliva to heal this man
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who was born blind. And rather than telling us, again, what this passage means, why did Jesus use
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his saliva? Like I would want to know. I mean, that's kind of an open question. No one knows
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for sure. I've seen some people make some guesses. Now, Mike Todd does talk about he was putting his
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DNA on this person to say that you are like a part of my family. I don't know if that's true or not.
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I haven't seen any evidence of that. There are some cult, there's some cultural context here that I
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think could probably give us some clues, but we don't hear about that. I don't remember hearing about
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that from Mike Todd. Instead of learning more about Jesus and what it meant that he was able to perform
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these kinds of miracles, what this chapter of the Bible actually means, why it was included, what this
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says about God, what this means when it comes to the power of God and the power of Christ, what does
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this tell us about the gospel and about the God that we worship? Instead, it is used, at least in the
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first 45 minutes that I heard, as a metaphor that God gives us vision, not just literally heals people
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from blindness, but this is supposed to be a passage, I guess, about giving us some kind of grand vision,
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prophetic vision of our life to give us clarity for what may come. He says that the audience had this
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reaction, as you heard in the video, grossed out by this, obviously, and he was basically trying to
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say that sometimes God's vision is going to get nasty, and we need to understand that. Are you kidding me?
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Are you kidding? That's not what the passage says. That's not what it means.
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And as I say, this passage, Scripture in general, has so much in it. We don't have to go outside of it.
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We don't have to put our meaning into it. We don't constantly have to find modern day applications
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to every person's situation. Tell me what the Bible says. Tell me the context. Tell me what the verse
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means. Tell me what it says about God. Tell me what it says about Christ. That and that alone is what is going
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to transform hearts and minds. And the transformation of the heart and mind through the power of the Holy Spirit
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and the wisdom of the Word of God is what permeates in someone's life and then applies to the different
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circumstances that they're in. I'm not saying, again, that application is always wrong or always bad,
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that we can't speak to how a verse specifically applies to someone's situation. Because even though
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the Bible wasn't written to us, it is written for our learning, our knowledge, our education,
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our encouragement. And so, of course, we can apply it to our lives. But again, not until we know what
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the passage says. Mike Todd never tells us that. Mike Todd never tells us that. At least in the first
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45 minutes, maybe in the second half, it's this amazing exegetical sermon. Somehow, I don't think so.
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This very much reminds me of Stephen Furtick. It reminded me very much of prosperity gospel preaching
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that has really no substance. I hate to say it. It has no substance. No biblical substance. Really?
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I mean, I didn't leave that knowing anything more about the Word of God or who God is. It was just a
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bunch of repetitive soundbites and a bunch of different hypothetical scenarios in which someone
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may or may not need vision from God. But it doesn't tell me anything about how to ask for wisdom,
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how to ask for discernment from God, how to obey God when things aren't clear. I mean, there was just so
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much scripture that wasn't preached. There was so much gospel that was missed. And that's what happens
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when you have eisegetical prosperity gospel preaching. You miss the gospel. You miss the true gospel.
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And I think people who are listening are worse off for it. It might pump you up and make you feel good.
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I mean, there was certainly a lot of that in the sermon. There was a lot of pumping up and a lot
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of excitement. And maybe that excites some people. And honestly, I think, like, I'm not judging here
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because I imagined myself in college when I really first started ingesting a lot of Christian teaching
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and preaching. I was very indiscriminate in the things that I was reading and listening to. I just
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didn't know. I mean, I had been raised in a Christian home, but actually studying the Word
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of God was something that was fairly new to me. That's something that I didn't start doing until
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the latter part of high school. And so I was listening, watching Joel Osteen. I was listening
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to Stephen Furtick. I was reading his books. I was listening to or reading, what's that book?
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Blue Like Jazz by Donald Miller. I was reading The Shack. But I was also listening to John Piper,
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Francis Chan, David Platt, John MacArthur, Matt Chandler. And so I had a wide array of people that
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I was listening to and learning from at that point. And so I don't judge people who are listening to
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Mike Todd or listening to Stephen Furtick because I don't know where they are in their faith. And I'm so
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glad that someone didn't come along when I was listening to this kind of stuff in 2011 or 2012.
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And say, you're not really a Christian because you're not listening to that. The reality was,
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is that I just needed to learn more. I had a friend my sophomore year of college get me an
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ESV study Bible. And I don't even think she knows this. Maybe I should text her today. I don't even
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think she realizes how pivotal that was for me in my faith. The ESV study Bible is still, by the way,
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my favorite study Bible. I've tried multiple since then. The ESV study Bible is still my favorite.
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And I think the commentary in the ESV study Bible really is what pushed me towards Reformed theology
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and realizing the dangers of eisegetical preaching and the prosperity gospel that I really did not
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see the problems in. It took years of studying the Bible. It took time. It took the grace of the Lord.
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It took the kindness and a friendship and people gently pointing me towards the truth. I don't remember
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receiving, you know, condemnation from people for listening to the wrong teachers. But I do remember
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their people, God placing people in my life along the way when I was in college to point me towards
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sound teachers. And so if you are someone who maybe you listen to Mike Todd or you listen to
00:26:38.980
Stephen Furtick and you're thinking, hey, you know, this all sounds great. This makes me
00:26:44.000
feel good about myself. I didn't realize there were problems in it. That's okay. I certainly
00:26:49.920
am not the arbiter. I'm not the arbiter of sound preaching and teaching or what counts as a sound
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sermon and does not. I have simply listened to people who are much farther along in their faith,
00:27:02.700
who are much smarter and much wiser, much more knowledgeable than I am when it comes to studying
00:27:08.080
and preaching the Word. And that's the only reason that I do, by the grace of God, have any discernment
00:27:14.800
when it comes to this kind of thing. Unfortunately, and I truly mean that, unfortunately, the sermon
00:27:20.580
that I heard from Mike Todd was not based on any kind of clear understanding from what I saw of the Word
00:27:29.680
of God. And so I'm glad he apologized, and I'm glad that he was transparent about it. But man,
00:27:37.440
the problems were so much bigger than this particular clip, so much bigger. And so let's all just pray for
00:27:43.960
wisdom and pray for discernment. We're all fallible people. We're finite people, as are all pastors and
00:27:50.380
preachers. So let's just ensure that everything that we are listening to, everything that we are
00:27:55.500
digesting when it comes to Christian teaching is based very strictly, very closely on God's Word.
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And when we have disagreements about what the Word of God means, because again, we will, we're fallible,
00:28:08.320
finite people, let us let the Word have the final word and not our own opinions and feelings.
00:28:17.740
Okay, totally shifting gears, I just wanted to talk about this story that I saw circulating on Twitter
00:28:23.340
yesterday quickly. And that is about Justice Neil Gorsuch refusing to wear a mask while they're
00:28:29.980
hearing oral arguments on certain cases. And the reason why this is a problem is because
00:28:37.260
another Supreme Court Justice, Sonia Sotomayor, whom we talked about a couple weeks ago when we were
00:28:46.360
talking about, well, we talked about her during the Dobbs case because of her claim that
00:28:53.020
a child in the womb who moves or even resists the prick of an abortion needle isn't necessarily alive
00:29:01.000
just because that child can feel pain. And we also talked about her a couple weeks ago when we were
00:29:09.420
discussing the vaccine mandate case when she said that a human being is basically a machine
00:29:18.080
that sparks and or that spews sparks. So just like a machine spews sparks, and I guess you have to
00:29:25.580
fix it or take control of it so that it stops spewing sparks, you should be able to do the same thing
00:29:32.800
with a human being. Of course, there is a big problem with that logic, but also human beings are not
00:29:42.120
machines. But I think her comments in both cases show us the progressive view of human beings that
00:29:48.060
really are just blobs of cells from the time that they are conceived until the time of death that can
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simply be controlled and manipulated by the government. So I appreciate her giving such a clear picture of
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the left-wing view of human beings and the value of humans. But now she is showing us that even while she
00:30:11.040
may not value other human beings that much, she very much values herself and is very, very scared
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of COVID, which I think probably also is the motivator behind a lot of what she said in regards to the
00:30:28.160
misinformation that she spoke about to the vaccine and about COVID. When she was hearing those vaccine
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mandate cases, she said that there were 100,000 COVID hospitalizations for kids, many of whom were
00:30:42.560
on ventilators. That is absolutely untrue. Even the director of the CDC, who I would say is a factless
00:30:48.560
fear monger usually when it comes to COVID, said that it's only about 3,000 pediatric hospitalizations
00:30:55.920
total. And the vast majority of those cases are with COVID, not because of COVID, which means that
00:31:01.720
a kid might be admitted to the hospital for whatever reason and he just happens to test positive for
00:31:09.800
COVID. And so she was very off base. No one really cared to correct her, I guess, in the moment, or even
00:31:15.640
there were very few people that wanted to correct her after either. So that's Sotomayor. I think she has a
00:31:23.240
lot of irrational fear surrounding this, which is probably why she is listening to the oral arguments from
00:31:33.620
home because Justice Gorsuch won't wear a mask. Now, to be fair, Sotomayor apparently has type 2 diabetes.
00:31:41.800
That is an underlying condition. She's also obese. And so these are underlying conditions and could certainly
00:31:49.980
exacerbate a COVID condition. So I don't blame her for being somewhat afraid. But here's the kicker.
00:31:58.440
Here's what CNN says. Under Supreme Court rules, media covering the court proceedings and lawyers
00:32:04.080
arguing before the court have to wear masks. But there are no specific rules regarding masks for
00:32:09.520
justices. All of the justices have been fully vaccinated and received booster shots. They are also
00:32:16.960
frequently tested. So if the vaccines work as well as she says that they do, what is she afraid of?
00:32:23.600
I mean, we know at this point that the vaccines don't stop infection or transmission, which is why
00:32:28.140
vaccine mandates are just ridiculous. They are unscientific nonsense. They don't make any sense.
00:32:32.680
And more than that, there are threats to personal liberty. And so but if she trusts them the way that
00:32:41.660
she says that she does, then why does it matter if Gorsuch isn't wearing a mask? But the bigger thing,
00:32:47.800
I think, is not the fact that they're all triple vaccinated at this point, but also that they're
00:32:52.540
tested frequently. He is not going to infect her. First of all, he's probably not going to infect her.
00:32:58.940
I'm sure he's not. I'm sure that even though they are apparently sitting by each other,
00:33:05.200
it would probably be difficult for that to happen, especially if he is asymptomatic. He's not going
00:33:11.960
to be hearing these oral arguments if he has COVID symptoms, but they're also tested frequently. So he
00:33:17.480
knows that he doesn't have COVID. It'd be one thing. Now, I would agree that it is selfish if he knew
00:33:23.200
that he had COVID and he's coughing and, you know, pulling a Mike Todd and rubbing his loogie all over
00:33:30.520
Sonia Sotomayor's face. I, yes, I would say that that is disgusting. I would say, Justice Gorsuch,
00:33:37.120
you are a very selfish man and that is gross, but that's not what's happening. He's sitting
00:33:41.380
in his own seat testing negative for COVID with three vaccines. Apparently, you know,
00:33:50.540
that means something to Sotomayor. And yet she is still making a big deal of this. She is still
00:33:56.040
listening remotely. That's fine if she wants to listen remotely. But the fact that this is becoming
00:34:00.980
a big thing where the liberal media is calling Justice Gorsuch selfish for this, that just doesn't
00:34:08.140
make any sense. Like in what way? Explain to me scientifically how someone who tests negative
00:34:12.660
and then refuses to wear a pointless mask is selfish. That just doesn't make any sense.
00:34:18.200
Is the virus going to secretly somehow? Is the virus saying, OK, I'm going to avoid testing positive
00:34:24.900
on this test, but I'm going to secretly like secrete out of Justice Gorsuch's mouth and infect Sotomayor?
00:34:32.620
Is that the scientific way this works? It's just another example of COVID really becoming
00:34:37.700
a religion. Like I said, I don't care that Sotomayor is doing this remotely. If that's what makes her
00:34:44.400
feel comfortable, that doesn't make a difference to me. But the media backlash about this and just
00:34:49.100
condemning Justice Gorsuch, it's really it's not because he won't wear a mask. It's because he's
00:34:53.480
conservative. That's why. But by the way, he's not even as conservative as conservatives would like
00:34:59.300
his decision in Bostock. Absolutely abysmal and has set the stage for just terrible policy when it
00:35:08.800
comes to gender and the protection of women's sports and spaces. But of course, because he is not
00:35:15.900
to the left of Bernie Sanders, he is going to be the target of condemnation for the media and people
00:35:23.900
who don't wear masks are apparently selfish. Even if you don't have COVID, it doesn't make any sense.
00:35:31.180
It's superstitious nonsense. And it's just a virtue signal at this point. It always has been. And the
00:35:37.980
media is kind of actually admitting this now. They're saying that, no, you really need a KN95 mask.
00:35:44.400
The cloth masks don't do anything. The surgical masks don't do anything. Yeah, I've been talking
00:35:50.160
about that for almost a year now. There have been many studies that have proven that the surgical
00:35:55.420
masks, that the cloth masks don't do anything. Sure, the KN95 mask, the N95 mask, sure, they can be
00:36:02.720
effective. If you have symptoms or like if you are infected, they might protect. If it's perfectly
00:36:11.460
fitted and you don't wear it for too long, that's possible. But if you're not sick, you're not
00:36:17.600
protecting anyone from anything. I don't even think we have good data or good science to prove that
00:36:24.420
asymptomatic spread is a thing. And if it is a thing, is it a significant thing? I don't think
00:36:30.240
we have any data to back that up whatsoever. So what is the point of a healthy person wearing a mask?
00:36:35.380
I don't think that it makes any sense. And we've been saying for a very long time that there are very
00:36:39.420
few masks that actually work. And we were gaslit and told, no, your little cloth mask that you got
00:36:44.860
in Target that was also made in Wuhan, China, it definitely works. It's definitely what's keeping
00:36:49.940
people safe. I mean, this is another reason why mask mandates in schools doesn't have it. They have
00:36:56.040
no significance in mitigating the spread of COVID at all. It's always been stupid. It's always been
00:37:04.340
silly. It's always been unscientific. And we've been saying that for over a year now, for almost
00:37:09.720
two years now. Jeez, it's been such a long time. And we've been told that we are the conspiracy
00:37:15.500
theorists. Of course, there are a lot of things that are now coming out about COVID that journalists
00:37:21.180
are reporting that we were told was a conspiracy theory. CNN recently reported that women are seeing
00:37:28.400
the change in their menstrual cycles after they get the COVID vaccine. And that some women are having
00:37:34.520
longer periods. Some women are having more frequent periods. Some women who are in menopause are
00:37:40.480
bleeding. Some women are skipping periods for several months. But CNN still assures us it's okay.
00:37:46.560
It's not that significant. And I'm like, yeah, you know, it's just your reproductive system. It's just
00:37:52.260
your ovaries. It's just ovulation. It's just your ability to be able to have children one day.
00:37:58.420
Don't worry about that. It's fine. It's fine. Of course, it's just going to keep coming out more
00:38:04.460
and more that, okay, it is significant or it might have an impact on fertility. But we don't really
00:38:11.300
know. They're just going to keep edging towards the truth. That's what we've seen since the very
00:38:15.200
beginning, that so many of the people who were accused of spouting conspiracy theories have been
00:38:20.600
vindicated. But there have been no apologies from the people that tried to take away their
00:38:24.500
livelihood, deplatformed them and called them conspiracy theorists. I think before the midterms
00:38:29.860
were just going to be incredibly gaslit. I think that Democrats realize that all of this hysteria
00:38:37.100
and the policies that just don't make any scientific sense are losing popularity even among Democratic
00:38:43.700
voters. I think they really need the economy to get back in shape. I think that they need to have a
00:38:48.920
sense of normalcy before the midterm elections to try to say, look, Democrats and Joe Biden are
00:38:54.620
doing such a good job with the economy. Look how great life is. And by the way, I think that things
00:39:00.000
are going to go that way because Omicron just isn't very virulent. And I think that shows that while the
00:39:07.240
virus may be transmissible, it's not as deadly as it once was. And so it's just going to get harder and
00:39:14.600
harder to justify some of the very cumbersome restrictions that exclusively Democrats are
00:39:20.220
putting into place, especially when it comes to remote learning. Parents on both sides of the aisle
00:39:25.660
are so weary of the politics that are being played at the expense of their children when it comes to
00:39:31.780
unscientific mask mandates, when it comes to remote learning and school closures. And so I think
00:39:36.700
Democrats are going to pretend that they have been the ones pushing for normalcy all along.
00:39:42.720
And you can't let them get away with that. You can't let them get away with the gaslight.
00:39:47.460
I saw another CNN headline that they posted on Instagram. And I was like, oh my gosh, wow,
00:39:53.360
this is brand new information. I would have never, ever thought of this. And the headline said,
00:40:00.100
new research shows kids experienced both mental and physical health problems. New research,
00:40:05.940
new research, anxiety, depression, lower physical activity, food insecurity, and school disengagement,
00:40:12.140
linked to school closures and social lockdowns. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much, CNN, for your honest
00:40:19.540
journalism. I know that I'm just dripping in sarcasm in this segment of the podcast. I'm sorry,
00:40:24.900
I'm over it. I am so over it. And I'm so tired of the gaslighting. These people ruined people's lives
00:40:33.020
and pushed kids to the brink of suicide or into suicide because of these unscientific school closures
00:40:40.000
and lockdowns and forced isolation. And a lot of kids were pushed into the arms of their domestic
00:40:48.020
abusers, were pushed into food insecurity, have fallen far behind academically. I mean, talk about
00:40:54.260
income gaps and success gaps between the rich and the poor. Those are going to be wider than ever. And I
00:41:00.240
don't know if they're ever going to close because these kids won't get their childhood back. They won't
00:41:04.540
get their elementary education back. Yes, I would love all parents to be able to opt out of public
00:41:10.980
school and just homeschool or send their child to a Christian school. I think that would be great. But
00:41:15.320
that's not the case. It's not a possibility for a lot of people. And so for the kids that have to go
00:41:20.800
to public school, they have no other option. They're really going to fall behind. The most vulnerable
00:41:25.480
kids have had it really bad over the past couple of years. And the conservatives who have brought that
00:41:31.700
up, again, have been told that we lack compassion, that we lack empathy somehow, that they're going to
00:41:36.940
die of COVID if they're sent to school without a mask. It was all a lie. It was a lie. Don't you
00:41:41.560
forget that these people lied to you over the past two years. Don't you forget who put these policies
00:41:46.020
in place over the past two years, especially when it comes to the midterms. Do not let them lie to you.
00:41:51.080
They did this and they're trying to act now like they want things to go back to normal.
00:41:57.540
Don't let them lie to you. I'm not going to let them. I'm not going to let them off the hook for
00:42:02.040
this. So if if you have to rely on me to remind you how much they lied to us, how much they deceived
00:42:09.660
us, how much they manipulated the data, how much they pushed for these cumbersome restrictions in
00:42:15.480
the name of public health and then ended up vindicating the so-called conspiracy theories that
00:42:20.360
they de-platformed people for. If you have to rely on me to remind you of that, I'll be here.
00:42:25.160
Trust me. All right. All right. That's all we've got for today. Tomorrow, we've got a great
00:42:31.560
interview. We're going to be talking about the Olympics happening in China. Can we even believe
00:42:36.980
that that is still going forth when we look at the havoc that has been wreaked, that has been wreaked
00:42:42.640
on the world because of China's corruption and incompetence? It's really incredible that that's
00:42:50.280
happening. So we're going to be talking about that tomorrow. Once again, if you love this podcast,
00:42:55.420
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