Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 570 ｜ Secret Vaccine Data & More on CDC’s Speech Milestones

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday? Yes, it's Wednesday. This episode is brought to

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00:00:17.460 Okay, there's so much, as always, that I want to talk about today. I am going to try to comment

00:00:33.840 on a few stories, but every time I set out to do this, I always get stuck on the story that I'm

00:00:39.680 most passionate about. I try to be as thorough as possible because I love to give you guys context

00:00:45.060 and as much understanding of an issue as I can so we can really grasp it rather than just give you

00:00:50.760 my hot takes or opinions on something. There's a time and a place for that. There's nothing wrong

00:00:54.240 with that, but I truly want to give you as much understanding as I can of a story to give you

00:01:01.320 kind of a starting point to then go and research for yourself because I think giving you the best

00:01:06.600 tools possible then to take those tools into the conversations that you have, into your community

00:01:12.320 to really make change. I think that's most effective, but that limits me. I'm not always

00:01:17.520 able to talk about all of the stories in one week or one day that I want to. That's why we typically

00:01:22.620 dedicate a whole episode to one or two topics or at least one theme. But yesterday, I asked you guys

00:01:29.560 on Instagram the stories that you guys want me to talk about, so I'm going to do my best to talk about

00:01:37.000 more than one of them. I'm going to try to get to two or three today. Tomorrow, we will be talking

00:01:44.080 about Russia-Ukraine. That was a big one that you guys asked me to break down. We've kind of been

00:01:49.580 avoiding talking about it, not because we don't want to or not because we don't think it's important,

00:01:53.640 but as we talked about on Monday, I do think as it pertains to the United States, which that's the

00:02:00.200 country that we live in, that we're citizens of, so we should care most about, I think what's going on

00:02:05.760 here and what's going on in Canada is more important because it affects your life more.

00:02:09.840 Doesn't mean Ukrainian lives don't matter. Doesn't mean that what's going on there is something that

00:02:13.800 we shouldn't pay attention to, but what's going on in our own, in the West is more relevant and

00:02:20.340 more important to us. Go listen to that episode if you want to hear more about my take on that, but

00:02:25.080 it's still important for us to know what's going on there. There are global implications and there are

00:02:31.140 some consequences that unfortunately we are going to have to endure because of the conflict that is

00:02:36.340 happening there. So we'll talk with an expert tomorrow on all of that. On Friday, we have another

00:02:41.640 bonus episode and this one doesn't have to do anything with politics. So if you are looking kind of for

00:02:49.020 a break, but still a good substantive conversation, we will be talking to Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs

00:02:55.960 Fame about the importance of learning skills that are in demand and presenting other paths of success

00:03:01.400 for our children other than college. Not that there's anything wrong with college, but we're

00:03:06.260 going to talk about kind of the pros and cons of, you know, the college only success route and you're

00:03:15.160 really going to love it. It's an edifying and interesting conversation. I mean, you guys know he's a very

00:03:19.780 interesting guy, so he had a lot of wisdom to share with us. You'll love that. That'll come out on

00:03:23.980 Friday. But for today, let's talk about those few things or maybe two things or maybe one thing.

00:03:29.440 It'll just depend that I want to talk about today. So I want to follow up on the CDC milestone story to

00:03:36.560 share some new information with you, add a little more insight there. The reason why I'm following up

00:03:42.100 on this is because of the reaction that I got from you guys. You thought that the commentary about

00:03:50.260 that story was important and it apparently it's reflected a lot of what speech and language

00:03:58.760 pathologists are thinking and feeling right now in light of the CDC changes. And so I'm going to add

00:04:06.100 a little bit more to that because I do think this is important, not just if you're an SLP,

00:04:12.000 but also if you're a teacher, if you're an educator, if you're a babysitter, and especially if you are

00:04:17.320 a parent. So we'll talk more about that. And then we'll transition from that into the stunning

00:04:21.700 admission by the New York Times. The CDC is not releasing data about hospitalization rates after

00:04:27.780 booster shots. I mean, that's crazy. And then if we have time, which I don't think we will. So if we

00:04:33.600 don't, we'll do this next week. I may want to bust some propaganda about Florida's so-called 0.98

00:04:39.340 don't say gay bill. If I don't have time to get to that, go to my Instagram page. I did like a whole

00:04:44.980 graphic on it. Before we get into that, let me just let me just know really quickly how much I

00:04:51.560 love you guys. The proof that I love you is that I drove to the studio today in very cold and wet

00:05:01.980 weather. And you know, I was raised in Texas where cold is like 50 degrees, like 50 degrees. You pull

00:05:09.980 out the parka. Below 50, you don't go outside, okay? You hardly even look outside because it sends a

00:05:16.980 chill through your spine. You do go outside if it's snowing because that only happens like once a year.

00:05:21.740 But when something like cold weather, especially sleet happens, we just don't know how to function

00:05:30.760 anymore and we don't know how to drive. So I am driving here and my windshield, it freezes with the

00:05:38.520 precipitation. And my genius idea was to spray water on my windshield. Now, I don't know if you

00:05:47.040 guys know this, but you know, this is a profound scientific discovery that water, when it's really

00:05:53.240 cold, freezes. It actually turns into ice on your windshield. And it's not really, it's hard to see

00:06:00.260 through ice if you're driving. So I call my producer, Beth, who is Canadian. And I was like,

00:06:06.560 Beth, I can't come into the studio. I'm just going to have to, I'm just going to have to phone it in.

00:06:11.780 And she was like, did you turn on your defroster? And I was like, my de who? What? My defroster?

00:06:20.600 She was like, yeah, it's the, you know, you turn it on and it like basically blows hot air on your

00:06:26.180 windshield. And I was like, that is brilliant. And so I did and it was fine. And I was able to

00:06:33.200 come into the studio and I just had a good laugh that, um, that our Canadian friends probably look

00:06:41.900 down, um, on us who don't deal with cold weather. And it's like, wow, you guys are weak. And yes,

00:06:48.060 I do like, you can pat me on the back. We do take refugees on as employees of this show. And so we

00:06:56.240 have taken a Canadian refugee from the tyranny of Justin Trudeau. I don't need your applause.

00:07:02.880 Am I an amazing, compassionate person for that? I mean, I guess so. What can I say? I just have a

00:07:08.900 heart for people who are seeking asylum from the tyranny of Canada. All right. I just wanted to,

00:07:16.120 I just wanted to tell you guys, I just wanted to make the point that I'm so dedicated to this show

00:07:20.820 that I even endured the cold, wet, rainy, sleety weather just for you.

00:07:29.440 All right. Uh, so as we talked about on Monday, the CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics

00:07:36.100 updated their milestones for toddlers and they actually lowered the standard. So rather than

00:07:41.980 two-year-olds being able to identify most of their body parts, this is one example,

00:07:46.600 verbally identifying familiar objects without being provoked or without being asked, just being

00:07:52.440 able to look at a book and point and say, that's a bear. Uh, saying four words together in a sentence,

00:07:57.980 that's what they were previously expected to do. Now they're only expected to be able to say two

00:08:04.560 words together by age two, like doggy run or something. Uh, be able to point to familiar objects,

00:08:11.360 uh, when asked. So if I said, uh, you know, point at the bear or something that a two-year-old should

00:08:20.080 be able to point to a familiar object, but not independently necessarily find the bear on their

00:08:25.540 own and say it. And they are now only expected to know two body parts. And they also introduced a

00:08:32.020 30 month or two and a half year milestone that was not there previously. That includes being able to say

00:08:38.200 50 words. And if you don't know previously, being able to say 50 words or last at 24 months,

00:08:46.280 so two years old, was considered actually a red flag that needed intervention according to the

00:08:52.320 American Speech Language Hearing Association. Now the CDC doesn't even mention how many words a two-year-old,

00:09:00.180 a 24 month old is supposed to be able to say. And as we talked about on Monday, it should be more

00:09:05.960 than 50. That's what the standards had previously. That's what Asha is still saying. And just in my

00:09:11.540 experience with my own two-year-old, it's definitely more than 50 words on average by the time a child is

00:09:17.940 two. Um, there's obviously a range there, of course, and every child is an individual that may excel in

00:09:25.180 some areas and be behind in others, but these numbers are in place for a reason. They're in place so

00:09:30.940 that kids can get some extra help when they need it. So the previous standards had actually been in place

00:09:37.240 for decades after a careful study. Okay, so this is not something, oh, they change it every few years. They had

00:09:42.960 been in place for a very long time based on data. These standards are not about exclusion or making

00:09:50.060 people feel bad for where they are. I've seen some liberal accounts say that. It's so strange. It's really just the

00:09:55.240 opposite. It is ensuring that kids have the tools as early as possible to ensure that they're good

00:10:01.160 communicators. Communication, both speaking and listening, is the building block of learning and

00:10:07.780 understanding. No concept or subject can be properly understood if we don't master language, reading,

00:10:15.020 reading comprehension, the ability to understand, to read, to discern people's emotions through their

00:10:20.720 facial expressions and their tone of voice. And it's not just communication milestones that have

00:10:25.860 changed. They also removed crawling as a milestone altogether. Isn't that strange? So I'll include the

00:10:32.660 link to these milestones on CDC's website in the description. You can take a look. Was it an oversight

00:10:38.720 to exclude crawling? That just seems really weird. I mean, crawling is an important milestone, again,

00:10:44.980 for a reason. If you have a child or if you've worked in pediatric physical therapy or if you're just familiar

00:10:51.780 at all with children, you can start to think about why it would be important. And if you have a baby, I have two

00:10:59.020 babies and the nine-month-old, you know, mastered crawling a couple months ago. But you see the evolution of the

00:11:08.000 crawl. At first, it's like an army crawl. Then it's kind of like a scoot. Then it's like, I'm going to try to put both of

00:11:13.120 my hands forward together and then like pull my knees at the same time. It actually takes a while

00:11:18.600 for the hands and the knees to move kind of in a walking way. And I was talking to my mom about this

00:11:26.620 this morning. And my brother, my older brother, who has learning differences, he had to go through

00:11:33.820 physical therapy when he was young to kind of master walking because he wasn't doing like opposite arm,

00:11:41.040 opposite leg movements that are supposed to be natural. He actually kind of had to learn that and

00:11:46.700 be trained in that. And what they had to do to help him be able to walk properly when he was little was

00:11:53.640 actually go back to crawling. And so train him how to crawl in a way that puts, you know, the left hand

00:11:59.860 forward and the right knee forward and then opposite. For some kids, that's something that they actually

00:12:05.180 need help with. But if crawling is not a milestone at all, then parents aren't going to know to get

00:12:11.740 the intervention and the help that they need. And pediatricians, if they're going by these CDC

00:12:15.440 standards, they're not even going to offer to help that child get intervention. So I really do not

00:12:21.460 understand. I can't even think of like a nefarious motive that would be there to not have crawling be a

00:12:27.840 milestone for infant development anymore. If the CDC and the AAP have a good reason for changing these

00:12:35.800 milestones, if somehow the science that once supported them has been disproven or just like

00:12:41.280 the common sense has been disproven somehow, we need to know, like we need to understand the reasoning

00:12:47.380 behind that. Otherwise, as I just mentioned, pediatricians and insurance companies will be using

00:12:53.480 this new AAP CDC guidance. And I'm just really afraid. And I know a lot of you are because I've

00:12:59.600 gotten a ton of messages from you that kids who actually need help at two years old because they're

00:13:04.360 only speaking 40 words or maybe they're not walking properly and the parents didn't get the intervention

00:13:10.860 that they needed when they weren't crawling properly, that those kind of kids aren't going to

00:13:14.640 get the help that they need. And as I asked on Monday, when are they expected to catch up? Will they

00:13:21.620 always be behind the kids who did get help earlier or who didn't have those setbacks in the beginning,

00:13:29.140 whose parents and pediatricians just, you know, are they going to fall behind the kids whose parents

00:13:35.080 and pediatricians abided by the old CDC guidelines? And here's what the American Academy of Pediatrics

00:13:41.380 and their kind of press release statement had to say about these changes. They said, quote,

00:13:45.660 the revised developmental milestones are written in family-friendly language and identify,

00:13:50.200 I don't even really know what that means. Like, our two-year-olds aren't going to be the ones

00:13:54.400 reading this, and identify the behaviors that 75% or more of children can be expected to exhibit at a

00:14:00.940 certain age based on data, developmental resources, and clinician experience. Apparently, previously,

00:14:08.740 their milestones were only based on what 50% of kids could do. Okay, so they looked at a bunch of

00:14:16.460 kids in different age ranges, and they said, all right, 75% of kids at this age can do these things.

00:14:22.100 These are the new milestones. Now, that's troubling to me, because the previous milestones were also

00:14:27.900 based on, you know, they were also based on a metric. They might have been based on 50%,

00:14:35.040 but for decades, they thought that that was sufficient. And I'm sure the AAP and the CDC have been tracking

00:14:41.820 this for a while to make sure, or had been tracking this for a while, to make sure that year after

00:14:48.580 year, the milestones matched what at least 50% of kids at that age were doing. So we need to be asking,

00:14:56.880 are 75% of kids now reaching lower standards of speech and development that at least half of toddlers

00:15:03.740 and babies before them were reaching for a particular reason? Are these truly more realistic,

00:15:10.980 better standards? Or are the majority of kids simply falling behind where we knew they needed

00:15:17.860 to be? Are we just dropping the standards to the lowest common denominator to try to cover up for the 0.97

00:15:23.840 fact that development is slowing down because of a variety of reasons? Of course, I think largely because

00:15:29.560 of COVID policy, which we're about to get into, but also because of screens, are parents not reading

00:15:34.220 out loud enough to their kids? Are they not paying attention enough to their kids? Are they not giving

00:15:38.900 enough FaceTime? Or are they just not helping their kids the way that they need to? Like, we need a

00:15:47.540 better understanding of why these standards are lowering and why apparently 75% of kids aren't meeting

00:15:54.060 the milestones that were in place for decades. So we already know, according to Brown University,

00:16:01.000 that babies born in 2020 or 2021 have a much lower cognitive ability on average than those born in

00:16:08.460 the decade before. So it seems to me that these standards by the CDC are actually adjusting because

00:16:15.460 of that. So let me read you some of this study that was published in December of 2021 and found that

00:16:21.440 there was a 23% fall in children born in 2020 or 2021 of their average, it was a 23% decline of their

00:16:34.460 average cognitive and developmental test results compared to kids born from 2011 to 2019.

00:16:43.500 Leveraging a large ongoing longitudinal study of child neurodevelopment, we examined general childhood

00:16:50.500 cognitive scores in 2020 and 2021 versus the preceding decade 2011 to 2019. We find that children born

00:16:58.780 during the pandemic have significantly reduced verbal, motor, and overall cognitive performance

00:17:04.280 compared to children born pre-pandemic. Moreover, we find that males and children in lower socioeconomic

00:17:11.000 families have been most affected. Results highlight that even in the absence of direct SARS-CoV-2

00:17:18.520 infection and COVID-19 illness, the environmental changes associated with COVID-19 pandemic is

00:17:25.240 significantly and negatively affecting infant and child development. Work from home and shelter-in-place

00:17:31.760 orders, for example, along with closed daycares, nurseries, and preschools may have dramatically changed

00:17:38.060 the quantity and quality of parent-caregiver and teacher-child interaction and stimulation.

00:17:45.660 Studies in older children and adolescents over the past year have found reduced social interaction,

00:17:51.980 increased media consumption, and reduced physical activity. It is likely these same trends are true

00:17:58.100 for younger children and infants as well as the closure or reduced capacity of daycares and preschools

00:18:04.220 and may be associated with impaired motor development, motor coordination, and visual processing,

00:18:09.680 language development, and socio-emotional processing. In addition, masks worn, this is Brown University,

00:18:17.820 masks worn in public settings or in school or daycare settings may impact a range of early developing

00:18:23.280 skills such as attachment, facial processing, and socio-emotional processing. Unfortunately,

00:18:29.620 we do not have direct parent-reported measures indicative of parent or caregiver-child interaction,

00:18:35.060 early media exposure, or physical activity to investigate the potential causative role of these

00:18:40.560 factors. One aspect, also not investigated here, is the impact of mask wearing by the study's staff

00:18:47.780 during child visits and assessments. The inability of infants to see full facial expressions may have

00:18:55.040 eliminated non-verbal cues, muffled instructions, or otherwise altered the understanding of the test

00:19:01.500 questions and instructions. Young infants and children are developing differently than pre-pandemic,

00:19:06.840 and addressing this now, while their brain is at its most plastic and responsive, is imperative.

00:19:14.100 My goodness, are we ever going to be able to forgive the people that did this? I also want to note that

00:19:18.540 they mentioned that this is worse for people in a lower socioeconomic class. Yeah, that's because the

00:19:23.300 people who had means made sure that their kids were getting in-person instruction. They were either able to

00:19:27.920 go to private school, or they did a pod, or they were able to work from home and still interact with

00:19:32.320 their kids. But blue-collar workers, middle class, working class, lower class, that just wasn't an option

00:19:38.240 for them. And also, the majority of people in the lower socioeconomic class, not all, but the majority

00:19:46.660 live in Democrat districts. Democrat districts had some of the biggest restrictions. Teachers unions have

00:19:52.280 some of the biggest influence over these Democrat districts that are majority-minority constituents,

00:20:01.960 lower-income constituents. And so, that means they saw more virtual learning. They saw more mask

00:20:08.440 mandates. They saw more stay-at-home orders. So, of course, of course, I mean, I say we as a society

00:20:16.840 should feel guilt about this. I certainly feel sadness about this. I feel shame about this. But

00:20:22.140 I'm going to be honest, I don't feel guilty because I've never advocated for this, and you shouldn't

00:20:27.720 either. But for everyone who did advocate for mask-wearing of children and mask-wearing of

00:20:35.900 caregivers for children after, I'm not talking about at the beginning, you know, we didn't know. We didn't

00:20:40.460 know. For the first few months, we really didn't. But after the data was so abundantly clear, when it was so

00:20:45.440 clear that this wasn't just two weeks or even several months to slow the spread, that this was

00:20:49.800 indefinite, that we have been shown so much data that cloth masks, that mask mandates really don't

00:20:55.320 work, that this isn't a virus that's dangerous for 99.999% of children, it's really hard to find it

00:21:02.540 in my heart, and I know that I have to, to forgive the people who have caused children to suffer this

00:21:07.400 much. The teachers unions who have pushed for virtual learning and school closures, even as they went on

00:21:12.240 vacations themselves, who have pushed for mask mandates and vaccine mandates. It's just, it's

00:21:18.440 insanity. And I just have a lot of resentment and a lot of bitterness towards the people that have hurt

00:21:23.700 our children the way that they have. And I'm working through it. I'm sure you are too. We'll have to work

00:21:28.380 through it together. So as I said, it actually seems like the CDC and the AAP not wanting to admit they

00:21:36.340 are part of the reason for the very impediments put in front of kids, like mask wearing, virtual learning,

00:21:42.100 lockdowns, are simply lowering the bar so we don't ask why these kids are falling behind. And eventually, people

00:21:48.500 won't even remember that these standards were changed. It'll just go down the memory hole in five to ten years

00:21:54.140 when people have forgotten or when you have a new round of parents. You know, people in a couple years who are just

00:22:00.340 or just this year who are becoming parents for the first time, they're not going to know that the

00:22:04.280 milestones have changed. And so people, for the most part, aren't going to notice that kids are

00:22:09.380 falling behind. That's just going to create a bigger gap. It's going to create a bigger gap of

00:22:16.740 success and outcome for kids. We talked about on Monday how obvious it is that masks would inhibit a

00:22:23.400 child's communication abilities. Adults read lips to understand what's being said, and kids, especially

00:22:28.060 those with learning differences, absolutely have to do that, have to read lips to both

00:22:34.020 understand words and to learn how to pronounce the words and to learn emotions through facial

00:22:39.720 expressions. Without that, not only are kids missing out on a vital part of communication and

00:22:48.200 development, the discombobulation that comes with not being able to understand what your caretaker or

00:22:55.860 toddler or toddler friend is saying and being able, being unable to fully discern their emotions is anxiety

00:23:04.860 inducing. So I have no doubt that because of masking, we are seeing and will continue to see social anxiety

00:23:10.880 and severe communication disorders, some of which will probably be diagnosed as autism, but are actually

00:23:16.640 products of us robbing our kids of normal development. Now, the American Speech Language Hearing

00:23:23.920 Association released a statement raising concerns about these changes, basically saying that the

00:23:29.440 changes are inconsistent with ASHA's findings and it's important for any changes to milestones to be

00:23:37.160 evidenced based. ASHA is a very left-wing organization. You can go on their Instagram and see all kinds of

00:23:43.060 silliness about gender diversity and equity and COVID restrictions. And in fact, suddenly they published a

00:23:48.560 post on Instagram in August 2021 that stated that there is no evidence, they said, that use of face

00:23:56.420 masks prevents or delays speech and language development. Insane. Listen to what they said. Babies and young

00:24:02.780 children study faces intently. So the concern about solid masks covering the face is understandable.

00:24:10.580 Yes. And then they go on to say, however, there are no known studies that use of a face mask

00:24:17.880 negatively impacts a child's speech and language development. Oh my gosh.

00:24:25.380 Okay. So that ridiculous contradictory statement by ASHA. I don't know if people say ASHA. I just 0.96

00:24:32.680 decided that I was going to do that. By the ASHA. It's absurd. Like this is what passes for science

00:24:39.780 these days. And it's such a rhetorical trick that has been used so much over the past two years.

00:24:44.340 There are no studies that show that X does something. All right. Well, that doesn't prove

00:24:50.840 that X does not do something. Are there studies to show that it does not? So if you say, hey,

00:24:57.420 we know that studying faces is important for babies and kids. If you know that, and then you say, well,

00:25:04.380 there are no studies showing the harms of masking. Then doesn't that just, doesn't that just put a couple

00:25:10.660 little pieces together in your mind? Does that raise a little red flag in your brain that maybe

00:25:16.000 just maybe if there were legitimate studies that they would show that masks are harmful? Oh, it's

00:25:21.860 really important for babies to be able to study faces to see how, you know, mouths move. That's 0.59

00:25:25.980 really important for kids. We don't think that covering up your mouth will have a negative effect

00:25:30.480 that doesn't even make logical sense. You don't have to be a scientist to understand that. And you'll

00:25:34.660 remember that several months ago, the American Academy of Pediatrics did the same thing.

00:25:39.600 They basically said, you know what? There's no evidence. There's no evidence that it shows this.

00:25:44.060 And then they took off of their website a study from several years ago that said that it's so

00:25:49.620 important for babies to be around smiling adults to get lots of face time throughout the day. They

00:25:57.140 actually took that off their website. And we're supposed to trust them? Like, shouldn't this

00:26:02.320 organization, the ASHA, be looking into this? Like, shouldn't they be conducting the studies?

00:26:07.340 As far as I know, they haven't gone back on that ridiculous statement. And I mean, we don't need 0.53

00:26:12.760 any investigation. We don't actually need any studies. This isn't rocket science, like I said.

00:26:18.240 We've messed kids up, a whole generation of kids, possibly irreversibly because of our paranoia and our

00:26:24.660 insistence that we just do something, no matter how illogical or harmful, our doing something has

00:26:30.400 often been. Masks, especially cloth masks, don't stop the spread of the virus. We've cited the

00:26:37.680 plethora of data on that more than a dozen times on this show. I'll link some of that. I mean, poor

00:26:42.820 children. Are they set back forever? What will our country look like when these kids grow up who have

00:26:47.820 been so neglected and mistreated in this way during their most formative years? Not to mention the teens

00:26:53.200 who have spiraled into depression and have watched their friends commit suicide at an unprecedented

00:26:57.840 rate in the last two years. You don't get childhood back. It happens once. And their childhoods,

00:27:04.120 their adolescence, their teen years have been stolen from them forever. And all for what?

00:27:10.200 The mask mandates don't work. According to Johns Hopkins, the lockdowns had no positive effects

00:27:15.400 whatsoever. This is according to the Washington Times. Lockdowns in U.S. and Europe had little or no

00:27:21.020 impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19, according to a new analysis by researchers at Johns Hopkins

00:27:27.200 University. So we ruined people's lives. For what? For what? They had to close down their

00:27:34.200 small business of 30 years for what? We drove people into unemployment-driven and isolation-driven,

00:27:43.440 destitution-driven, depression, and suicide because of the lockdowns for what exactly? There's too many

00:27:50.720 people that don't want to admit that they were wrong, that they were dead wrong, actually. That's really

00:27:56.040 hard to admit. I understand it. And so they're just doubling down on it. History will show. History will

00:28:02.740 show. We'll make sure of it. The vaccines. Like, we don't even have time to fully get started on that.

00:28:09.220 But we already know. The data is clear, has been for a while, at least a few months, that they don't

00:28:15.200 stop infection or transmission. They were being forced on people, are being forced on people, who have

00:28:21.680 lost their livelihoods over it, even our servicemen and women, even people with natural immunity, which

00:28:26.660 we've known for a long time is stronger than the vaccine immunity. And actually, it recently came

00:28:32.300 out that that whole claim that, oh, well, having natural immunity and vaccine immunity is even

00:28:38.320 better. That was never actually true. That was never actually proven. It was just a theory. But we're

00:28:44.680 told by our government and our corporations that that didn't count, that the natural immunity didn't

00:28:49.140 count. It's illogical. It's unscientific. We knew young people didn't really need it, especially kids,

00:28:54.980 yet it's still being pushed. Some kids can't even go on their college campus to get in-person

00:28:59.980 instruction without a booster shot. And what do we know about how effective the booster shot is

00:29:05.040 against hospitalization and severe illness? Well, we know that the booster for the elderly,

00:29:14.280 the data does look good on mitigating the severity and keeping them out of the hospital,

00:29:20.060 but not for young people. That's according to the New York Times. And the New York Times also

00:29:25.620 published an article this week saying that the CDC is actually trying to hide data about booster shots

00:29:32.000 and hospitalizations, especially for young people, not because the data isn't there because they don't

00:29:37.380 have it, but because they're afraid of the politics of it. They're afraid of the PR of it. And they're

00:29:43.060 afraid that people having access to the truth about the data is not going to push them to behave in the

00:29:49.920 way that the CDC wants. So this is according to the New York Times. The CDC isn't publishing large

00:29:55.200 portions of the COVID data it collects. Two full years into the pandemic, according to the New York

00:30:00.360 Times, the agency leading the country's response to the public health emergency has published only a

00:30:05.480 tiny fraction of the data it has collected. Several people familiar with the data said.

00:30:10.120 The performance of vaccines and boosters, particularly for younger adults, is among the

00:30:15.340 most glaring omissions in data the CDC has made public. Last year, the agency repeatedly came under fire

00:30:23.000 for not tracking so-called breakthrough infections in vaccinated Americans and focusing only on

00:30:29.440 individuals who became ill enough to be hospitalized or die. The agency presented that information as risk

00:30:35.380 comparisons with unvaccinated adults rather than provide timely snapshots of hospitalized patients

00:30:42.620 stratified by age, sex, race, and vaccination status. But the CDC has been routinely collecting

00:30:49.520 information since the COVID vaccines were first rolled out last year, according to a federal official

00:30:55.560 familiar with the effort. The agency has been reluctant to make those figures public, the official said,

00:31:01.600 because they might be misrepresented as the vaccines being ineffective. Now, why would that be?

00:31:09.800 Ms. Nordlund, who is a spokeswoman for the CDC, confirmed that as one of the reasons, according to the New York

00:31:16.600 Times. Another reason, she said, is that the data only represents 10% of the population of the United States.

00:31:23.660 But, this journalist notes, the CDC has relied on the same level of sampling to track influenza for years.

00:31:29.180 So, that's not a very good excuse. Concern, according to NYT, about the misinterpretation of

00:31:36.040 hospitalization data broken down by vaccination status is not unique to the CDC. On Thursday,

00:31:41.680 public health officials in Scotland said they would stop releasing data on COVID hospitalizations

00:31:47.120 and deaths by vaccination status because of fears that the figures would be misrepresented by anti-vaccine

00:31:54.300 groups. Let's hang on here. Misrepresented or represented correctly? I mean, if the data shows

00:32:02.380 what the CDC and these public health bureaucracies have been saying that they show, that the vaccines

00:32:07.200 are highly effective, then why would they be scared of releasing that data? What do we always say?

00:32:12.500 If you have to cover up or misconstrue the truth in order to make your point, you're on the wrong side.

00:32:17.620 We had to rely on Israeli data because to decide whether or not boosters are effective. And I think,

00:32:25.640 honestly, a lot of even Israeli data was ignored because, again, these college campuses are trying

00:32:30.560 to push through mandatory boosters for their students. And there's no data proving that that's

00:32:34.520 necessary. Like, we had to rely on foreign data because our own public health organization is not

00:32:41.360 giving us the truth. The American Academy of Pediatrics has repeatedly asked the CDC for an

00:32:48.480 estimate on, again, according to the New York Times, on the contagiousness of a person infected with the

00:32:53.300 coronavirus five days after symptoms beginning. But this doctor interviewed Dr. Maldonado couldn't get

00:33:00.580 the answer. And she finally did get the answer from an article in the New York Times in December. And so she said

00:33:07.520 they've known this. The CDC has known this for over a year and they haven't told us. I mean, you can't

00:33:11.960 find out anything from them. So the CDC has known for over a year that it's actually should be a five

00:33:16.780 day quarantine instead of a 10 day quarantine. Again, how many kids miss school? How many parents had to

00:33:21.380 stay home from work? Like how much fear and how much of an economic impact and a social impact and

00:33:28.340 emotional impact has it had on people that the CDC has been covering up the truth about so much? That's why

00:33:33.880 there is mistrust. I mean, what happens if, God forbid, as as Bill Gates has been saying several

00:33:41.400 times now publicly, there is another one of these? How are we going to say it actually is way more

00:33:47.540 deadly? What are we going to do? How are we going to trust anything like you want to talk about the

00:33:53.020 epidemic of misinformation? People go to alternative sources because they know that they cannot trust

00:34:00.500 the official experts today. That's a problem. That's a problem. I want us to be able to trust

00:34:06.560 the CDC. I want us to be able to trust the politicians. Like I want to be able to take

00:34:11.020 their guidance and say, OK, they are basing these policies and they are basing their recommendations

00:34:16.000 based on this clear data. It's right there. They've given it all to us. But even the New York

00:34:20.080 Times is saying that the CDC has covered stuff up because they're afraid that the truth hurts their

00:34:26.080 policy directives, probably because they know the Democratic Party wants to force vaccines in a lot

00:34:31.860 of cases. And really, they are just as they've been working. They worked with the teachers unions

00:34:37.480 about their recommendations for in-person versus virtual learning. They're also deferring to Democratic

00:34:42.980 governors and leaders when it comes to the policies that they're recommending. I guarantee you that's part

00:34:48.940 of the reason why these mask mandates are still in place, why two-year-olds are still forced to wear

00:34:52.820 masks? Because I don't know, for some reason, some just crazy politicians want to keep that in place. 0.80

00:35:00.620 It's it's really sad. It's a really sad, sad state of affairs, public health in the United States. But

00:35:06.500 you deserve to know the truth. So I'm just trying to give you as much as I possibly can in the hopes

00:35:11.240 that in the hopes that you'll take this information, you'll take it again into your communities and do

00:35:16.760 what you will with it. Do what you will with it. All right. So like I said, tomorrow, we will be

00:35:23.020 talking about Russia and Ukraine. What the heck is actually going on there? And why should we care?

00:35:27.700 If you love this podcast, please leave a five star review. Subscribe on YouTube as well.

00:35:31.700 And I will see you guys back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - February 23, 2022

Ep 570 ｜ Secret Vaccine Data & More on CDC’s Speech Milestones

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