Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 578 ｜ Putin vs. the Great Reset？｜ Guest： Justin Haskins

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. This episode is brought to you by our friends

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00:00:11.600 Allie, goodranchers.com slash Allie. Okay guys, are you ready for this? I wish that we had had

00:00:27.200 like a sound effect that said, are you ready for this? As soon as we came to this opener,

00:00:31.360 because we have another incredible, fascinating conversation for you about the Great Reset,

00:00:38.780 how everything that's going on right now, what was happening in Canada, but more importantly,

00:00:43.040 what's happening with Russia and Ukraine, the messaging about Russia and Ukraine,

00:00:47.040 what the heck is actually going on. We're going to sift through some of the propaganda there. We're

00:00:51.220 going to look at why it seems like some of the worst people in the world are all saying the same

00:00:56.500 thing about that, how this plays into the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum. And we are going

00:01:01.560 to link our past episodes on this. I just want to say like we were one of the first shows that were,

00:01:07.740 that was talking about the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset, not because of me. I didn't

00:01:12.320 discover this stuff, but because of the guests that we had on Glenn Beck has been talking about it

00:01:16.200 forever, even before really anyone knew what it was. But my guest, Justin Haskins really has been

00:01:23.740 on the front lines. He was one of the pioneers of talking about this. And I'm thankful that

00:01:28.720 Relatable has been a place where people have learned about this. These episodes on this particular

00:01:34.020 subject have been my most popular episodes, my most listened to episodes by far. And if you haven't

00:01:41.160 listened to the previous ones, it's okay. You'll catch up in this episode. You'll understand what's

00:01:45.560 going on, but you will understand very quickly why these episodes just spread like wildfire and then go

00:01:52.360 back and listen to the previous ones. Get ready for your mind to be absolutely blown, not necessarily

00:01:59.620 in a good way. Just remember after all of this, God is sovereign. All right, let's just remember that

00:02:05.680 God is completely sovereign. He is still in control. And it's important for that to continue to be our

00:02:11.400 hope. Now, before we get into this conversation, if you think that the Great Reset and Biden's Build

00:02:17.940 Back Better slogan isn't a part of a greater global movement by what we typically refer to as kind of

00:02:24.860 the global elites who we will actually define in this episode, then I want you to listen to this clip

00:02:30.940 of different world leaders saying strangely the same thing. And enable us not just to come through

00:02:37.920 this crisis, but to come back stronger and build back better. But this global pandemic has also

00:02:43.520 created an opportunity to build back better. To keep drawing together our shared experience and insight

00:02:49.620 and enable us to build back New Zealand even better. But the COVID-19 pandemic can also be a moment for

00:02:56.540 resolving longstanding conflicts and addressing structural weaknesses. Four sets of priorities can

00:03:02.900 guide the response to build back better. Okay, so that was just a few. There are a ton of global leaders

00:03:09.120 who have said the same thing. And these are all lines by the World Economic Forum. You'll notice that the

00:03:14.100 last guy said structural weaknesses. What we'll talk about today is them wanting to take over the global

00:03:20.940 economy and change it according to the interests of the people who run the World Economic Forum and their

00:03:26.760 various ambassadors in different world governments and in corporations. Justin Trudeau and all of

00:03:34.800 those world leaders. There's also a montage out there of them using the term Great Reset. All right. So

00:03:40.640 I wish it were a conspiracy. I really do. But it's not. To break it all down for us is Justin Haskin. So

00:03:46.820 without further ado, here he is. Justin, thank you so much for joining us yet again. So we were talking

00:03:56.400 before the camera started rolling that the world may be ending. And we're going to try as we always do

00:04:04.440 to end on a positive, optimistic note. If nothing else, we know that God is in control. But tell us,

00:04:12.080 I mean, if you just kind of want to start big picture, how is what's happening with Russia, Ukraine,

00:04:18.340 lots of other things that are going on? How does this fit into this whole Great Reset narrative that

00:04:23.220 we've talked about so many times? Right. So I told you when we first started talking about the Great

00:04:28.980 Reset that almost everything that happens is somehow related to the Great Reset. Yeah. And I know that

00:04:36.820 some people might hear that and think, all right, this guy is, you know, he talks about the Great Reset

00:04:41.100 all the time. So of course, you know, to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Right. But I really,

00:04:46.880 truly believe that the evidence shows that there are good that there is a lot of there's a lot of

00:04:53.860 reasons to think the Great Reset is tied to what Putin is doing in Ukraine. So to understand this,

00:05:00.400 the first thing that people need to grasp is that there is an ideological war. And this is not a

00:05:05.800 controversial point. There's an ideological war that's going on in Europe, in Asia, in the Middle East,

00:05:11.540 and in Russia. And that ideological war is between people who I would consider to be international

00:05:18.480 fascists. That's the Great Reset people. They're not necessarily invading countries and doing things

00:05:24.460 like that, per se. But they want to impose their ideas on the rest of the world through the financial

00:05:30.820 system, through social credit scoring systems like environmental, social and governance scores,

00:05:36.360 ESG scores, and all the stuff we've talked about before. Right. And this is like,

00:05:40.220 this is George Soros. This is some, I mean, okay, I'm sorry, I hate to pause and interrupt you when

00:05:48.680 you're on a roll. But just for some people who may not know, first, you're talking, okay, so you're

00:05:54.300 talking about these fascists, which I would agree, they're not like your traditional fascists that are

00:05:59.080 necessarily rolling into a country with, you know, a tank and taking over. But they are, they're

00:06:04.440 imperialists because they are trying to conform countries to their vision of what they want the

00:06:10.840 world to be through a variety of policy changes and through infiltrating governments with people

00:06:17.040 who will basically do their bidding. Before we keep going into what that actually looks like,

00:06:22.300 can you just tell us a little bit about how these people came to power, Klaus Schwab, how did these

00:06:27.500 people like have as much influence as they do? And how did they get started on kind of manifesting all of

00:06:33.320 their plans in the way that they are? Yeah, so there's been a movement that's been going on for

00:06:38.980 decades and decades and decades. Klaus Schwab, the head of the World Economic Forum, he started the

00:06:44.660 World Economic Forum, I think back in the 1970s. And that's where he first launched this idea of a

00:06:50.840 Great Reset. Back then, he was calling it stakeholder capitalism. And that's sort of how it's developed

00:06:56.540 over time. And he's, he's, there's been a whole bunch of manifestations of it. The Great Reset is the

00:07:01.360 most recent one. But the idea developed really with Klaus Schwab and a bunch of other people around

00:07:08.500 that period of time in Europe. And it has spread over, over the seceding decades over the past 50,

00:07:15.020 60 years, where they've gotten more and more buy in from corporate leaders who are all behind this,

00:07:21.160 from banks and financial institutions and others, I think largely because other sort of

00:07:26.900 left wing movements failed. They failed for a variety of different reasons. But the biggest

00:07:32.840 one I think is that they couldn't figure out a way to get enough funding to have, say, the Green New

00:07:38.280 Deal is a good example of that. Where do you come up with, you know, 50 to 100 trillion dollars for the

00:07:45.060 Green New Deal in taxes and in the sort of traditional ways that you would raise revenue for

00:07:50.400 a program like that? How do you get countries, elections or voters to sign on to something

00:07:56.900 really radical like that? And especially when you have big corporations and wealthy people

00:08:02.780 often fighting those causes because they don't want to be taxed. They want to keep more of their

00:08:08.740 money, right? They don't like regulations. They want a freer marketplace. Well, how do you get those

00:08:13.780 people on board? And what they came up with was this solution of let's just buy all these people off,

00:08:19.660 not just through traditional cronyism, but through massive amounts of money printing.

00:08:25.120 Let's buy them off, get them on board, and then figure out a system for determining who the good

00:08:30.820 companies are and who the bad companies are, who the good banks are, who the bad banks are. That's

00:08:35.760 what ESG scores are designed to do. And then we'll reward the people who are on our side and we'll

00:08:41.760 destroy the people who are not through the financial system. And that way we can reshape society

00:08:47.920 through the corporations, through the products and services that people buy, through social media

00:08:54.720 platforms, technology and other things without ever having to pass a law because that was the

00:09:00.180 other challenge, right? They would pass these sweeping laws in some cases and then courts would

00:09:04.860 throw them out, especially here in America. So if you think about just Obamacare alone, like just the

00:09:10.560 individual mandate, that one thing alone was tied up in court for years and years and years.

00:09:15.920 So if you really want to reshape society, it would be so much easier if you could get all these

00:09:20.860 businesses and banks to go along with you and then kind of impose it through them. And that's exactly

00:09:26.740 the system that has developed over time. It's an alliance of all these very powerful interests,

00:09:33.760 and they're all getting rich off of it. This is very well documented that they're all getting very

00:09:39.800 rich. They're promised that they're going to get rich off of this sort of scheme, as I would see

00:09:45.460 it. And in the process, they get to have these elaborate dinner parties and Davos and talk about

00:09:52.160 how they're saving the world and they get to stroke their egos and their savior complexes and all of that

00:09:57.480 get fired up. And so I think it's been a long time coming. And you could argue that it goes all the

00:10:02.860 way back to the progressive movement of the early 1900s, even the late 1800s, this idea of if we can

00:10:09.720 get the elites to buy in and we can get all the corporations going in the right direction, get all

00:10:15.400 of the powerful special interests going in the right direction, then we can reshape society without ever

00:10:19.880 having to pass a law in order to do it. So this idea has been around for a long time. It's just the most

00:10:25.640 recent manifestation has been particularly successful because of advancements in technology, the

00:10:31.700 financial system, COVID, and all this other stuff. And just remind people, when you say reshape society, I

00:10:38.780 know you mentioned stakeholder capitalism. But what does that look like kind of in practical layman's terms

00:10:45.700 when they say they want to reshape society? What exactly do they mean?

00:10:49.040 Uh, the primary way they plan to do that is through the ESG scores that I was referencing

00:10:56.360 before, where essentially, they would judge a business and investors and banks on how well they

00:11:05.360 align with certain social credit scores, these metrics, by the way, you said would, but this is

00:11:10.600 currently happening. Companies have ESG scores that they are honestly more concerned with than what

00:11:17.840 their customers want, their the size of their customer base, or even profit, they are more

00:11:24.200 concerned with their ESG scores than any of those things. And so we've talked about like, oh, why would

00:11:29.840 Amazon or why would Disney do things that they know is going to polarize half of America? They don't

00:11:36.800 care because they're really not beholden to certainly conservative America, they just don't care.

00:11:42.580 Yeah, that's exactly right. See, in a free market economy, the idea is that people, the businesses

00:11:50.740 are going to respond to what customers want, right? So if customers want free and open platforms on

00:11:57.940 social media, then that's what the free market is going to give them. That's the idea. But what

00:12:02.400 happens when the biggest customer becomes government and these big financial institutions and public

00:12:10.120 private partnerships where these financial institutions and government are working together,

00:12:13.660 well, then they're more, they're the most important customer. So the market's going to do whatever they

00:12:18.380 want. So and that's exactly how the system has developed. And then when you add on top of that, all of these

00:12:24.860 threats to make ESG social credit scoring systems, mandatory, legally mandatory, they all these

00:12:32.880 corporations believe this is going to happen anyway, it's inevitable that they're going to be forced to do

00:12:38.060 these things. The Biden administration has already put together groups within the SEC, the Securities

00:12:45.180 and Exchange Commission, that's what's in charge of essentially regulating the stock market and various

00:12:49.960 other bodies within the American government to kind of move in the direction of mandatory ESG

00:12:56.760 disclosure and eventually having mandatory ESG scores. In the European Union, the European Parliament

00:13:03.100 voted last year to create a mandatory ESG system for all of the European Union. The vast majority of

00:13:10.620 the companies in the European Union, big companies would be would have to follow these ESG metrics as

00:13:16.460 well as a bunch of small businesses and everybody in their value chain, which means anyone who does

00:13:22.220 business with them, whether they're a European Union company or not, would also have to comply with these

00:13:27.760 rules, or else these companies in the European Union could be punished. And that hasn't become law

00:13:33.280 yet. It's close to becoming law, probably will happen this year. But it's already passed through

00:13:38.160 the Parliament. And now it has to go through the European Commission. So if you're a company, and you're

00:13:42.560 looking at all of the money behind this more than $100 trillion behind this, this ESG movement, you look

00:13:48.880 at what's happening in Europe, and you see this is almost about to become law there, you see regulatory

00:13:53.520 agencies in the United States starting to push this. And you think to yourself, I might as well

00:13:59.040 just go along with it and be on the good side of all of these people. And then that way I get to look

00:14:04.320 like a hero, the media will talk about how sustainable and responsible and equitable I'm being. And I get to

00:14:10.960 make lots of money in the process because all of this money is being printed and distributed to the

00:14:16.560 people willing to play ball with this through the Federal Reserve and other institutions. It just makes

00:14:22.000 too much sense for them to go along with this system. And that's exactly why you're seeing

00:14:27.040 companies like Coca Cola suddenly training their employees to be less white. And you see American 0.94

00:14:33.760 Airlines suddenly getting involved in voting laws and Microsoft all of a sudden caring about whether

00:14:40.000 you have voter IDs in Georgia ESG score. It's because they're worried that if they're not on the right

00:14:45.760 side of this ESG system, that they're going to lose access to capital. And there's a whole bunch

00:14:53.120 of evidence to suggest that's already starting to happen in a variety of different businesses and

00:14:57.600 industries. Yeah, I think there's probably a few factors too that play into that. Yes, it's the ESG

00:15:02.400 score. But I also think that, you know, most heads of companies are pretty amoral. And if you're going to

00:15:08.480 drift one direction, you're going to drift with, you know, the way the water is flowing and how the

00:15:13.920 mainstream is flowing is towards progressivism, towards this progressive secularism, and towards

00:15:19.760 these newfangled definitions of equity and fairness, which are not in actuality equitable and fair. And

00:15:26.480 so if someone pressures you, like within a company, for example, and, you know, just says, hey, if you

00:15:32.000 care about fairness, if you care about the marginalized, if you care about equality, then you have to

00:15:36.640 implement this kind of training and these kind of policies. Well, someone who doesn't have any moral

00:15:41.840 fortitude, and who doesn't really have any principles themselves, of course, they're going

00:15:46.480 to be easily bullied into that kind of thing. So there's also some of that, that there's a lot of

00:15:51.440 ignorance, I think, within these institutions to think that in order to truly be on the right side

00:15:56.640 of history, in order to, you know, do the right thing, then you have to go along with what Black Lives 1.00

00:16:01.200 Matter says. You have to say that, you know, women, trans women or women, or whatever the dogma,

00:16:07.680 whatever the maxim of the day is, I think there's simply a lot of just flimsy people.

00:16:12.400 And those things kind of go hand in hand. Yes, there's kind of the more nefarious people,

00:16:16.720 the calculating strategic people within these institutions and organizations. But I think the

00:16:21.440 vast majority of people just go along to get along. So they're just going to go with, you know,

00:16:26.080 whatever slogan the Democratic Party or progressives or the elite kind of put out and just say,

00:16:32.480 yeah, okay. And I do think, like, people want to know, like, how does critical race theory,

00:16:39.200 how does the degradation of our education, how does, like, the whole transgender, like, 1.00

00:16:46.000 gender switching kids, how does that all play into this? And, like, one thing that I say is that

00:16:53.360 I think in order for the Great Reset to really take root, in order for them to see the vision of the

00:17:00.920 world that they want, which is basically all countries kind of govern under one system,

00:17:08.200 one international law that they dictate, that the World Economic Forum and all of their cronies

00:17:13.480 in the different parts of the world and different corporations, different governments, that they

00:17:17.160 dictate, that they say, well, you know, you have to function this way. You have to abide by these

00:17:22.380 policies. Only these kinds of people can buy and sell because we want to reward people,

00:17:28.500 corporations and institutions that basically do our bidding, which can be whatever they want. Maybe

00:17:33.180 right now it's protecting the climate. Maybe right now it's LGBTQ rights. Whatever they say 1.00

00:17:38.680 is the good, right, true, moral thing, they're going to reward people within their international

00:17:45.420 system that basically help them push that particular agenda, which happens to be right now a progressive

00:17:52.220 agenda. And that's why you say it's not necessarily communism or socialism that they want. It's not

00:17:59.300 necessarily or primarily the confiscation of private property. It really is more of a form of fascism

00:18:07.120 because it's the wedding of government and corporate power without any kind of pretense of

00:18:13.600 helping the poor or anything like that. It really is just for the sake of power to have kind of a

00:18:19.940 global government, a global economic system so they can control everything and basically do what they

00:18:27.040 want. And so the way I think the only way that they can implement that is one, to try to

00:18:35.500 push down any form of like any form of nationalism or any desire for a sovereignty of your nation.

00:18:46.140 Even patriotism is kind of hostile to this idea. Putting your country first certainly would be

00:18:53.180 hostile to the idea of kind of one global government. And also that means that they have

00:19:02.000 to push for the degradation of Western strength and of American strength. Because right now, I mean,

00:19:08.800 we're teetering on the edge, but America is still the greatest world superpower. You still have a lot

00:19:14.300 of patriotism in this country. We're still mostly a center right country. Most people in this country

00:19:19.160 are proud to be Americans. Even if they say they're not nationalists, they have kind of part of that in

00:19:24.260 them. While you can't have American strength, you can't have one world superpower that is in charge if

00:19:30.500 you want this global governmental system that, you know, you want to do your bidding. So how I think

00:19:36.860 critical race theory, the degradation of morality, the demonizing of religion, the dismantling of our

00:19:44.080 education system, the confusion that comes with gender ideology, how I think this all plays into

00:19:49.520 that, it's just weakening the American populace. It's weakening the West. It's confusing people.

00:19:55.620 It's putting people into a state of dependence, of amorality and immorality, to the point to where

00:20:04.060 they aren't able to think for themselves, and therefore, they're not able to fend for themselves.

00:20:09.140 If you don't believe in any kind of God or objective morality, you'll look to a government

00:20:14.000 to tell you what is right and to take care of you. So it does all play into each other. And I know that

00:20:20.380 I'm kind of on a rant right now, but it's not necessarily that the World Economic Forum dreamed up

00:20:25.760 all of these things themselves. It's that they use these things in order to sow discord and honestly,

00:20:31.660 ignorance and confusion and dependence in the United States and elsewhere. Do you think I got

00:20:36.780 that assessment vaguely correct? I think you absolutely nailed it. That is 100% right. And

00:20:43.860 that is actually the key to understanding why I think everything that you just said is why I think

00:20:50.380 it is tied to what's happening right now with Russia and Ukraine. Because fundamentally, the other part of

00:20:58.500 the equation, so we just talked about there's this ideological war, that's half the war right there.

00:21:03.120 That's one side of the war is everyone we just described who I would consider you could fall into

00:21:08.500 the Great Reset camp, right? On the other side is this camp that is very fascistic in many ways,

00:21:17.400 but they're nationalists. And they have and traditionalists as they see it. And they don't

00:21:23.840 want, they don't want, now we're not talking about in America, we're talking about in Asia and in Europe

00:21:28.500 and in Russia and in places like that. They want nothing to do with this Great Reset system. They

00:21:33.940 don't want to reimagine the social contract. They don't want to be told what kinds of businesses and

00:21:39.680 industries they can have and which ones they can't. They don't want Western European influences

00:21:44.480 affecting every part of their world. They don't want it. They're willing to do trade. They're willing

00:21:49.660 to engage in economic activity globally, sure. But they want to have control over their own

00:21:55.540 destinies. To give you a good example of it, I mean, because I think it segues perfectly into this,

00:22:00.680 Vladimir Putin is one of the most staunch critics of many of the same things that you and I would

00:22:08.300 say are problematic in Western society. And so one of the things that he said was, today,

00:22:16.360 many nations are revising their moral values and ethical norms, eroding ethnic traditions and

00:22:22.840 differences between peoples and cultures. Society is now required not only to recognize everyone's

00:22:28.180 right to the freedom of consciousness, political views of privacy, there's his authoritarianism,

00:22:32.540 but also to accept without question the equality of good and evil, strange as it seems,

00:22:38.900 concepts that are opposite in meaning. And then he says Russia can be a defender of all of this with

00:22:45.140 its great history and culture with many centuries of experience, not of so-called tolerance,

00:22:51.560 neutered and barren, he's making a social commentary there, but of the real organic life of different

00:22:57.040 peoples existing together within the framework of a single state. He's talking about sort of Russia,

00:23:02.740 Eurasia, and all of that. And so what he's saying, we know that there are more and more people in the

00:23:08.500 world who support our position of defending traditional values. And Russia's role is to prevent 0.95

00:23:14.560 movement backward and downward into chaotic darkness and to a return to a primitive state.

00:23:20.220 So again, he's talking about these moral issues, these moral problems that exist in the West,

00:23:27.240 where essentially we've thrown out every idea that has ever existed before. We're redefining

00:23:34.180 absolutely everything. We're tearing down all notions of traditionalism for thousands and thousands

00:23:41.260 of years, things that basically everybody in the West believed to be true are now no longer,

00:23:45.620 you're not even allowed to say them without being ostracized from the world, right?

00:23:49.600 Like a man is a man.

00:23:51.740 Well, and a million other things too. I mean, you can't say anything today that you could say,

00:23:58.100 say 10, 15 years ago without really being careful because they will destroy, they will try to destroy

00:24:05.040 you if you do. So Russia sees itself as a leader in this movement against the spread of this liberal,

00:24:16.180 this really extreme liberalism that emanates out of Europe.

00:24:19.980 Do you think they really see themselves as that? Or do you just think that Putin is saying that they

00:24:25.600 see themselves as that? And really, it's just about imperialistic power. And what he's kind of saying

00:24:31.580 is more just kind of propaganda to try to get some people on his side.

00:24:36.540 Right. So there's definitely a propaganda element to it. And I want to be really clear that Putin is

00:24:42.460 a authoritarian, tyrannical, awful, murdering thug. No doubt about it whatsoever. I'm not trying to justify

00:24:50.200 anything that he's saying. But at the same time, I think you can be both an authoritarian imperialist

00:24:57.460 and believe that you are the champion of traditionalism and defending the Russian way

00:25:03.180 of life. And the other thing is that, you know, people have a tendency to look at all of this and

00:25:07.600 they say, well, you know, what is this really? It can't really just be about, you know, defending

00:25:13.600 traditional values and defending, you know, sort of Russia as an idea and all of this. That doesn't

00:25:19.240 really make any sense. And I would agree with that. And people have really struggled to find

00:25:24.020 sort of an economic geopolitical reason for why he would do what he's doing now, despite all of the

00:25:30.500 negative repercussions that he's facing as a result of it. And what I think is really interesting

00:25:34.800 is that the Great Reset offers the answer for why there might be some urgency right now. And that

00:25:40.980 answer is Russia is essentially dependent on oil and natural gas and coal. They're those industries

00:25:47.480 makes up about a fifth of their entire economy. About 40% of all the government revenues that they

00:25:54.660 bring in come from those industries. So they are heavily dependent on fossil fuels. Now, what is the

00:26:00.720 Great Reset been saying? What's one of the biggest parts of the Great Reset over the past year and a

00:26:05.780 half? It's that they're going to use the global financial system to destroy the fossil fuel industry

00:26:12.380 everywhere. That they have over a hundred trillion, trillion with a T, a hundred trillion dollars

00:26:18.620 behind this movement to phase out all of fossil fuels. So when you have the world's most powerful

00:26:24.720 leaders getting together as they did in Glasgow last fall, governments, corporations, United Nations,

00:26:31.820 banks, financial institutions, investors with a hundred trillion dollars saying we're going to have a

00:26:36.400 great reset of the global economy. We're going to have a new social contract. We're going to impose

00:26:41.220 our ideas of what society should look like on everyone through this system. We're going to

00:26:47.780 rework the economy so that there is no more fossil fuel industry. We're going to completely destroy

00:26:54.320 that. And you are Russia and you're looking at all of this. You're saying to yourself, doesn't that 0.82

00:26:59.640 mean you're saying you're going to destroy our entire economy? Because our economy is built on this.

00:27:04.060 We can't survive without this. And they're openly saying that this is our plan over the next 10 to 30

00:27:10.140 years. Then at the same time, they turn around and say, and we're going to try to expand NATO and

00:27:16.180 we're going to try to expand NATO, which is sort of in the Russian mind, seen as the military arm of the

00:27:22.520 great reset type people, nations and leaders. I mean, we're going to expand that as the military arm of the

00:27:30.100 West for sure. I mean, there they are already surrounded by several NATO countries. That's right.

00:27:35.680 That's right. And these countries that surround them that are part of NATO and Ukraine, which wants

00:27:42.160 to be part of NATO, have a very long, bloody anti-Russian history going back into the Soviet

00:27:49.720 Union and even before that. So these countries don't like Vladimir Putin. They don't like Russia.

00:27:55.780 And now they have NATO moving in, going onto the border of Russia, simultaneously saying,

00:28:03.680 the same people allied with NATO that control NATO are simultaneously saying, and we're going to

00:28:08.660 destroy your economy by phasing out fossil fuels everywhere. And it's not because of market forces.

00:28:15.100 It's not because people don't want it or that it doesn't work anymore, that there's something

00:28:18.700 better out there. It's that they want to fight climate change and they've just decided they're

00:28:23.100 going to impose this on everybody around the world. So when you add all that stuff up and you look

00:28:29.320 from the perspective of an authoritarian, right, if you're already a tyrant, you're already a

00:28:34.820 murdering tyrant that throws people in jail for saying things you don't like, that assassinates

00:28:38.600 opposition leaders, and that kind of stuff is happening, is it really surprising that then you would

00:28:43.160 turn around and say, I'm not going to let this happen to me and to my country. I want to be a hero

00:28:48.520 of the Russian, you know, national fascist way of the world. And I'm going to do everything I can 0.97

00:28:55.480 to solidify that legacy. And this, I think, is part of that movement toward him doing that.

00:29:05.560 So Ukraine, though, why Ukraine? Is it just because it's a neighboring country? I mean,

00:29:11.340 I know he said in his speech, which I think was largely propaganda, he said, you know,

00:29:16.560 we have one heritage, we have one culture, you know, we share somewhat of a language. There are

00:29:22.380 already parts of Ukraine, Eastern Ukraine that are very pro-Russia. I mean, does he really believe

00:29:28.600 that? Does he really believe, do you think that, you know, Ukraine is, was really always meant to

00:29:34.760 be a part of Russia? Or do you think that's just kind of what he said? And what it actually is,

00:29:40.040 is that he feels boxed in by these hostile powers, and by this new system that basically wants to,

00:29:47.860 wants to tank their entire economy? I think it's a combination of things. But I think what's really

00:29:55.880 important for people to understand is that this is not the idea that Ukraine should be part of Russia,

00:30:02.140 or at least much of Ukraine should be part of Russia, is not a idea that Vladimir Putin alone

00:30:09.340 has. This is an idea that is actually very popular in Russia, generally speaking. And there's all sorts of

00:30:16.240 reasons for why this is the case that go back hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.

00:30:22.540 Kiev is actually a very, that's the capital of Ukraine, is a very important part of Eastern

00:30:27.900 Orthodox religion. That's a branch of Christianity that's extremely influential and popular in Russia,

00:30:34.080 very important. Kiev has played a very important role in that. There are all sorts of these

00:30:41.260 kind of mythologies, historical mythologies that talk about the Russian people, ethnically speaking,

00:30:47.480 and how Ukraine actually played a very, what we think of Ukraine today as a very important role as

00:30:52.660 kind of the epicenter for a while of the Russian people and the development of that. And so there's

00:30:59.040 a lot of reasons for why he might believe that Ukraine is very important. From just a pure

00:31:05.460 geopolitical standpoint, it offers really great ports. There are important pipelines that go

00:31:11.200 through Ukraine. Ukraine's a very large country of 40 million people. So there's that. They

00:31:16.520 absolutely hate the Russians. So the idea, because in large part, because of what happened during the

00:31:22.220 Soviet Union, millions and millions of people were slaughtered in the Ukraine. There are many Russian 1.00

00:31:27.740 people who live in Ukraine because during the Soviet Union, they exported Russians or imported Russians

00:31:33.560 into the Ukraine. So there are many parts of the Ukraine like Crimea and Eastern Ukraine that are

00:31:39.780 full of Russian speaking people that consider themselves to be Russian and want to be part

00:31:44.400 of Russia and don't want to be in the Ukraine. So there's all kinds of reasons for why he would

00:31:51.460 actually look at Ukraine as an important part of the long term puzzle. But I think the biggest one for 0.99

00:31:58.300 him is that if your goal is to create a legacy of reshaping the world, defending Russia, defending 0.92

00:32:07.960 nationalism just generally, and Ukraine is right on your border, a very powerful nation, absolutely hates 0.53

00:32:16.720 Russia, and has been for many years trying to get NATO to become a member of NATO, to have NATO forces

00:32:25.460 move into Ukraine. It makes perfect sense if you're Putin to say at some point, we have to stop. And how

00:32:32.380 did all of this start before they actually made a military move into Ukraine? What what did Vladimir

00:32:37.220 Putin demand? The thing he was demanding is, I want promises from everybody involved that Ukraine will

00:32:44.020 never be part of NATO will never be part of NATO. I want promises. I want it in writing. And basically,

00:32:49.040 everyone said, Nope, we're not going to make that promise. Because he felt like that would box him

00:32:53.960 in even further, like he basically would have seen that as an act of further hostility. Because I've

00:32:59.920 seen some people on the conservative side, who I really respect, push kind of push back on that theory

00:33:04.820 that it has nothing to do with NATO at all. He's already surrounded by other NATO countries. This is

00:33:11.180 really just him being kind of a madman. And he has no even pretense of a justification for it. And then I've

00:33:17.760 heard a lot of people say what you're saying. Well, no, he actually he would see Ukraine joining

00:33:22.540 NATO as a huge act of aggression. And it would mean that he was further boxed in and that he would 0.60

00:33:30.080 just see that as a huge threat. Yes. And I think that the evidence strongly supports. I mean, Vladimir

00:33:37.700 Putin's been around for a long, long time. He's been running Russia for two decades, right? The idea that

00:33:43.040 he's just suddenly lost his mind and all of a sudden is doing irrational things. Again, I'm not

00:33:48.640 saying he's a good guy. He's a terrible guy, but he's not an irrational person. He makes he's very

00:33:54.300 cold and calculated and smart. And he he has a strategy in place. And going back to what something

00:34:00.900 that I said earlier, it is a widespread belief amongst many people in the Kremlin and in the

00:34:07.280 leadership in the military and elsewhere, that eventually you have to do something about Ukraine,

00:34:13.380 that Ukraine eventually has to become part at least parts of it have to become part of Russia

00:34:17.520 in order for them to ever be secure. And these ideas have been circulated within the upper echelons

00:34:24.460 of Russian government and in the military going back to the late 1990s. This is not a new idea. This

00:34:31.620 is something that's been around for a long time. And and the Russian people themselves largely support

00:34:38.000 this. One of the interesting things about what happened in Crimea is when you look at Vlad and

00:34:44.020 this really might be more telling than anything at all. If you go back and look at Vladimir Putin's

00:34:49.760 approval rating just amongst the Russian people in the two years or so leading up to the invasion of

00:34:56.520 Crimea in 2014, Vladimir Putin had been in a trend of a slow decline in popularity. Now, by American

00:35:04.240 standards, because he's an authoritarian and everything, when I say he didn't have a lot of

00:35:08.060 popularity relative to what he had before, I mean, his approval rating was in around 60 percent or so.

00:35:13.540 OK, but it had been 80 something percent and now it's down to 60 something percent. So he goes into

00:35:20.520 Crimea. That happens after the fact, whether that has anything to do with the approval ratings or not.

00:35:24.660 You know, let's just put that aside. He goes into Crimea. His approval rating goes up to over 80

00:35:30.160 percent again and stayed above 80 percent for a long time. Then if you look at over the past few

00:35:36.120 years, his approval rating went way down again, back down to the 60s or so. And then the most recent

00:35:42.720 approval rating we have from, say, January or so, his approval rating started going back up again.

00:35:48.000 Now, once he started banging the war drum, because people in Russia want to rebuild this idea of a

00:35:55.580 Russian empire, they want there are very proud people. They want to believe that their that their

00:36:00.540 country plays an important role in the world. They want to reunite the Russian speaking peoples of the

00:36:05.280 world. They want to defend what it means to be Russia. And they are they are very nationalistic

00:36:10.960 society. And Putin is offering them something that that is the West can't offer them because

00:36:17.220 most of the West is fundamentally telling them we want to destroy every semblance of what it means to

00:36:23.500 be German or American or Russian or whatever. We want to redefine every traditional idea that's ever

00:36:31.320 existed in our societies. We want to throw religion out of the public square. Russia is a very religious 1.00

00:36:37.740 nation in many ways. And we want to do away with with all forms of traditional culture. 0.96

00:36:46.200 And if you're Vladimir Putin, it's really easy to step into that void and say to the Russian people,

00:36:50.900 I will defend you from this. I will stop this from happening. I will not allow these people to

00:36:55.420 destroy our society. That's an easy political argument to make. And his popularity, his approval

00:37:03.340 ratings, the fact that they went up after what happened in Crimea is a really strong signal that

00:37:08.840 that's what the Russian people want. They want to reunite Ukraine. They are willing to go to war over 0.95

00:37:14.620 defending traditionalism. And I think that's exactly what's going on right now. Yeah. Wow. There's so many

00:37:21.540 different parts to that. One, they are. So in the traditional sense, when you're thinking about the

00:37:28.380 actual definitions of nationalism versus imperialism, they're, you know, they're opposites.

00:37:34.160 A true nationalist people, a true nationalist country is happy with Russia being Russia and

00:37:38.400 France being France and America being America. They want to pursue and preserve their own interests, 0.84

00:37:43.840 but they're not going to, they're not imperialists. They're not trying to make other countries their

00:37:48.780 country. So any kind of authoritarian regime, I think, has a little bit of both, though. They've got,

00:37:54.680 okay, I've got this national, like, okay, Hitler, he's love, he said he loved Germany, and he was,

00:38:00.900 you know, proud of being German, but he also wanted an expanding German empire. And so I do also like

00:38:07.620 when people, they associate nationalism with, you know, with Putin or nationalism with Hitler. Well,

00:38:15.120 not necessarily. There's a healthy nationalism. And then there is also this kind of nationalism that

00:38:20.720 we are seeing that wants to overtake other countries and make them like their own country.

00:38:24.920 And obviously, that is something that I oppose. And I also want to just, like, make clear, because

00:38:30.640 I've seen this a lot on the right, I'm sure that you have, because of the things that you are talking

00:38:35.160 about, which I think are abundantly clear, that that is what Putin is doing. He's stepping into that

00:38:39.420 void and he's saying, look, I'm going to preserve Russian culture. I'm going to preserve

00:38:42.660 traditionalism and all of these things. I think some conservatives here are tempted to sympathize

00:38:48.880 with Putin and what Putin is doing. And actually, to be pro-Putin, I don't think that's the majority of

00:38:54.400 people on the right. I think some people are mislabeled that just because they're

00:38:58.480 asking questions and pointing things out that are true. But some people on the right are because of

00:39:03.900 the things that you're saying. Here's what I would say to those people. While it is tempting to say,

00:39:09.060 yay, someone is, you know, advocating for traditionalism and religion and the things that we care about.

00:39:13.360 But still, the interests of Russia are opposed to the interests of the United States because there 0.97

00:39:20.980 will always be a world superpower. Russia wants to be the world superpower. China wants to be the 0.79

00:39:25.880 world superpower. They'll probably ally together. I want to talk about that in a second. Right now,

00:39:30.480 America, even though we're teetering on the edge, we are still the world superpower. We basically set the

00:39:35.920 rules for how things function. And while that has not been perfect, having a world superpower that

00:39:42.060 actually believes, at least we're supposed to believe in free speech and freedom of religion

00:39:47.200 and due process, that makes a big difference versus world superpowers that do not believe in

00:39:52.780 that at all, that actually imprison and murder and torture dissidents or religious minorities or

00:39:58.660 political minorities or whatever. So even though maybe some conservatives and maybe even some

00:40:04.400 Christians might be tempted to sympathize with what Putin is doing, he is still a dictatorial,

00:40:13.060 maniacal in some ways. I'm not talking unpredictable, but just immoral, authoritarian,

00:40:20.600 and nuclear power who hates the United States. Okay? So his interests and American interests are not aligned.

00:40:27.640 Even if we can kind of understand, you know, where he's coming from, I do need conservatives here

00:40:34.160 to understand that, that Putin doesn't like you. He's not interested in upholding your values. He's

00:40:40.040 not on your team. He doesn't want to link arms with you. Just like the Soviets of yore, he hates the

00:40:45.820 United States. He hates Western civilization. He hates personal liberty. And like, you're going to end up

00:40:52.420 in the same gulag as everyone else. Okay? So I just want to make that clear for people because I do

00:40:58.360 see the sentiment of being pro-Putin by some people on the right. And like, we can't do that. We can

00:41:04.140 understand where he's coming from while still saying, yikes, like he wants Soviet Russia. America

00:41:09.640 should not want that. Yeah. Yeah. That's such an important point. What people need to understand is

00:41:16.040 that when Americans talk about defending traditional values, our traditional values,

00:41:22.540 there is obviously some, there is some crossover. There is some, you know, shared values between

00:41:29.260 traditional, uh, Russian values and as Putin would define them and traditional American values,

00:41:36.400 just like there are some shared values between every single culture in the world. There's shared

00:41:41.080 values between traditional American culture and traditional, uh, Iranian culture or whatever.

00:41:47.580 Right. But obviously there's also a lot of differences between us and Iran, right? And no

00:41:52.580 one would say that traditional American values are the same as traditional, uh, Iranian Islamic

00:41:59.260 values. No one would say that. So it's really important to, to understand that the differences

00:42:04.740 are extreme. When we say defending traditional American values, part of that, part of one of

00:42:11.060 the things built into those values is this concept of individual liberty and religious freedom and

00:42:17.260 freedom of the press and freedom of speech and all these things that Putin would say when he talks

00:42:22.640 about traditionalism are actually not part of his tradition. That's the opposite. So when he's

00:42:28.240 defending traditional Russian values, he is fundamentally opposed to traditional American values by definition.

00:42:35.640 That's, that's part of the differences between our cultures, again, as he would define them.

00:42:41.560 So they are, they, just because he likes certain, just because there are certain traditional Russian

00:42:47.400 values that correspond with traditional American values does not mean that we agree on even most

00:42:53.540 things. In reality, as you pointed out, Vladimir Putin and the people around him hate America and

00:43:01.500 believe that America is the source of many of the problems that they have, many of the problems that

00:43:06.660 exist in the world. And when Vladimir Putin gave his, gave a variety of different speeches lately on

00:43:12.320 Ukraine, he keeps talking about America as if we have, as if we're, he's invading America or as if we're in

00:43:18.560 Europe. We're on the other side of the world, but he keeps talking about us as though this is somehow

00:43:23.220 us. We're the reason why this is all going on and we've insulted them and we've caused all these

00:43:28.500 problems and we're the ones pushing NATO and everything else. So yes, it is so important for

00:43:34.220 people to not get caught in the trap of believing that just because we are, are to some extent

00:43:40.100 conservatives, a lot of us are nationalists. We believe in America and American exceptionalism and

00:43:45.840 American values and all of that, that that somehow puts us in the same camp with Vladimir Putin. It

00:43:51.580 doesn't in the same way that it doesn't put us in the same camp as a nationalistic Iranians who believe

00:43:57.680 in Sharia law. I don't think I, I fall into that camp either, even though I am a nationalist and

00:44:03.360 they're nationalists too. So tell me a little bit more, the why behind all of these people,

00:44:14.560 World Economic Forum, Build Back Better, Great Reset people, why are they so focused on Ukraine? And

00:44:24.320 it's already explained by the things we talked about. And if we could just clarify that it, I think

00:44:29.060 even people who understand, you know, obviously it's bad what Russia is doing. They have a lot

00:44:33.680 of sympathy for the Ukrainian people, obviously. When they saw the thread by George Soros, who has

00:44:40.260 worked very hard to sow the seeds of discord in the United States, to make sure that we don't have

00:44:46.200 any enforceable border law, to make sure that he is funding the election of DAs who will not enforce the

00:44:53.940 law. He has undermined law and order in many cities across the United States, has actively funded and

00:45:01.760 worked against real true democracy in the United States. He is obviously anti-nationalism, anti-American

00:45:09.620 patriotism. He sees it as one of his goals, maybe as a part of the Great Reset, to undermine Western

00:45:15.920 civilization and undermine the United States. He tweeted out a thread saying that, you know, we need

00:45:23.560 to stand for the Ukrainian people, that they have a right to their sovereignty, which is just kind of

00:45:29.760 laughable. He has worked against the sovereignty of European nations, too. And it seems like he and a lot

00:45:37.460 of other people, Justin Trudeau is another one, standing up for the sovereignty, for the borders,

00:45:43.200 for the nationalism and the patriotism of Ukraine. That, to a lot of people, seems a little sketchy,

00:45:50.660 a little hypocritical. And it makes the critical thinking person step back and say,

00:45:55.580 why? Why? What is their interest in all of this? So in your estimation, is it just anti-Russia or what

00:46:02.840 else is going on there, do you think? No, it's all part of this ideological war between these two camps.

00:46:09.260 And one of the key foundational aspects of the internationalism movement of the Great Reset is

00:46:17.240 that everybody has to participate in it. I mean, when Klaus Schwab first launched the Great Reset

00:46:23.500 slogan at this June event in 2020, one of the things he said was that every country must participate

00:46:29.860 and every industry must be transformed. And he specifically called out the United States and

00:46:35.700 China and said, they have to do it too. We all have to do it. And I actually think that goes back

00:46:41.100 to, that's a fundamentally Marxist idea. There's this idea that has existed on the left for a very

00:46:46.800 long time that unless, and I actually think it's very reasonable and I sort of buy it, that in order

00:46:52.220 for leftism to work, everybody has to do it. Because if there's any dissenters at all, if there's any place

00:46:59.100 for you to go to escape it, you will. That's what will happen.

00:47:02.620 That our ideas are so good, we have to force it on people.

00:47:05.600 That's exactly right. And so from an internationalism perspective, if we're going to,

00:47:11.000 you know, battle climate change, or we're going to have ESG scores, we're going to reshape the social

00:47:17.660 contract, we're going to change the way businesses work. We saw this on a very minor level, or I think

00:47:24.260 last year, when the global, you know, European American community came together and said, we're

00:47:29.980 going to, we're going to put together a global minimum tax of 15% or something on corporations.

00:47:36.200 Why did they do that? Because they understood that what had been going on previously was when one

00:47:42.400 country would raise its corporate income taxes, something that the left really likes, other

00:47:47.080 countries would say, wow, well, if we lower our corporate income taxes, then the corporations will

00:47:51.720 come to us. We can't have that. Because if you have that, it becomes a race to really low taxes.

00:47:57.520 And that's not what they want. If we can get everybody to agree that we're going to have this

00:48:02.440 same tax rate, there's no place for corporations to run to. So that whole idea of, and climate change

00:48:09.320 is the classic example of that, right? They're constantly telling us all the time that if anyone

00:48:15.180 dissents, any big country dissents from this, we're all going to die from climate change in a hundred years.

00:48:19.820 So everybody has to sign on. Do they believe that or is climate change the pretense for control?

00:48:26.740 I think some of them believe it for sure. Uh, to some, to some, you know, it's hard to tell

00:48:31.760 exactly what people believe and what they, uh, and why they believe it. Um, I think I'm very

00:48:38.040 suspicious that most of the leaders, political leaders, especially actually believe that climate

00:48:42.900 change is an existential threat, meaning a threat to human civilization, which is what they mean when

00:48:48.600 they say existential, when you see them, uh, as Barack Obama did buying a multimillion dollar

00:48:54.440 mansion on Martha's vineyard, which is an Island, uh, that his own government said that very spot

00:49:01.580 where he built, where he has this mansion was going to be swallowed up by the seas within the

00:49:05.840 decades. His own government said that in a report, the idea that those people, Leonardo DiCaprio,

00:49:12.940 another one flying around the world in private jets while telling everyone that we should be biking to

00:49:17.520 work. Like, do they really believe that? Yeah. Yeah. They're all, they all do it. They're all

00:49:22.620 gigantic hypocrites, every single one of them. So if they actually believe the world was about to end, 1.00

00:49:28.120 they would be like Greta Thunberg. They'd be riding boats across the Atlantic ocean to come to America. 0.98

00:49:34.280 Right. She believes it. And if you listen to Greta Thunberg talk about these people, uh, the Joe

00:49:40.700 Biden's of the world and, uh, Boris Johnson, people like that. She talks about them as this, as if they're

00:49:46.180 horrible people, this terrible people. She hates those people just as much as it's as much as I do

00:49:52.000 because she thinks that they're all a bunch of hypocrites doing this for political reasons. So

00:49:56.360 yeah, I would say that it's probably the most likely scenario. Yeah.

00:50:00.400 So I have more to, I have, I have more to ask on that, but oh my gosh, as always, I need four more

00:50:07.040 hours, Justin. Um, okay. But let me go back to Russia and Ukraine really fast. Um, because again,

00:50:13.500 acknowledging that what's going on is not good and that there are people that are dying and hurting

00:50:18.520 and all that, I am like one degree of separation from someone who had to escape Ukraine. And so

00:50:23.660 I'm not doubting just that like horrors that are being experienced there. But I also think that

00:50:30.120 people have a valid reason to, to wonder why there seems to be like a unanimous, unanimous talking

00:50:38.740 points about what's going on in Ukraine. Why people that we typically are totally opposed to

00:50:45.980 when it comes to all of our policy ideas, our ideas of proper foreign policy and domestic policy,

00:50:52.680 why they all seem to be saying the exact same thing, why there is so much focus on Ukraine

00:50:58.920 when it seems like, and this was while Trump was president. I believe it was at the beginning of 2020,

00:51:05.600 right before COVID when China overtook Hong Kong, which was an autonomous region that was really

00:51:11.220 governed under the first amendment principles, really the West heart outside of like a few

00:51:17.180 conservatives, the West hardly made a peep about that. I have a hard time believing that when,

00:51:22.060 when China overtakes Taiwan, that we are going to see this kind of response. And yet, as this is

00:51:29.040 happening to Ukraine, we have all of these very, what I believe like Justin Trudeau, authoritarian

00:51:34.720 leaders saying, wow, this is awful. They're anti-sovereignty, anti-borders for their own country

00:51:39.360 saying, wow, we need to protect Ukrainian borders. And then what I think is really troubling is that

00:51:44.860 you've got these major corporations, Glenn Beck, who you've obviously worked with a lot, posted a picture

00:51:50.980 of all of these corporations, Amazon, Adidas, Facebook, Dell, Samsung, PlayStation, Pornhub, TikTok.

00:51:58.540 I mean, all of these organizations, a lot of whom we know do not have like any actual objective

00:52:04.120 principles or values or morals whatsoever. They have left the Russian market. I believe it's

00:52:10.060 MasterCard and other banking and credit card services that have now disallowed just normal

00:52:17.180 Russian civilians from using their services. How that's going to affect Putin, who is an authoritarian,

00:52:23.380 I have no idea why this response from everyone to what Russia is doing. Meanwhile, China has been

00:52:34.240 imperializing poor countries in different continents for decades. Not a peep out of these people, 0.98

00:52:42.200 not a peep about Hong Kong. Again, I don't think that they are going to have the same response

00:52:46.960 to Taiwan. And we are told if we question the response to this by any of these entities that

00:52:55.920 we're pro-Putin, you know, pro-murder, whatever it is. And it just reminds me, I'm almost done,

00:53:02.740 but it just reminds me of, okay, at the beginning of COVID, if you question the economic impact of all

00:53:08.460 of this and if it was worth it and if kids should be pulled out of school, it's because you're a

00:53:12.240 grandma killer. If you question the tactics of BLM, if you say, oh, I don't think that like

00:53:17.600 looting is a great thing for these poor communities, it was because you were, you know, pro-Black people 1.00

00:53:24.760 getting shot by the cops and you are a racist. And then if you are questioning at all, at all the

00:53:31.220 response to what's happening in Ukraine and how much we should be focusing on that and how much the

00:53:35.880 Russian people themselves should be punished, then it's because you, you know, want to murder 1.00

00:53:40.940 Ukrainians or whatever. And then if you doubt at all that young children should be put on puberty

00:53:47.160 blockers, then it's because you want, you know, trans kids to commit suicide. So if you, if you 0.99

00:53:53.820 question the progressive mainstream narrative on anything, it is always that you want people to die.

00:53:58.440 It's always what it is. And I'm sorry, but yeah, some people are going to look at the track record of

00:54:03.120 those kinds of things and look at this and say, this is the same exact playbook as what has been

00:54:08.400 happening in these other issues. You're telling me if I question anything about the response to

00:54:12.320 Ukraine, that I'm some kind of like pro Putin, pro murder, I'm sorry. And then people just kind 0.77

00:54:18.760 of bow out and get cynical. And I'm, I can't really blame them at this point. What do you think?

00:54:25.020 Yeah, I think the coordination is 100% related to all of the things that we've talked about before

00:54:32.300 with corporations, the banking system, ESG systems, all of that. I think you see the coordination

00:54:37.880 because they believe that's the best path forward. They believe that's how they're going to make all

00:54:43.340 of this work. It's part of their larger plans. Um, I think that the reason why you see the hypocrisy

00:54:50.420 here where people are extremely concerned about Russia, but they're still buying virtually everything

00:54:56.960 from China, which has a million people in concentration camps right now, murders people 0.98

00:55:02.200 all the time as a gross human rights violator does business with all sorts of other human

00:55:07.960 rights violators all over the world. And nobody seems concerned about that. I think it's largely

00:55:13.440 economic. Uh, everyone, China, the brilliance of, of China strategy over the past 20 or to 30 years

00:55:21.160 has been that they have made the world dependent on them for virtually everything. And so there's

00:55:27.320 only so much criticism you can do of China before they start to, uh, threaten to kill economic ties 0.57

00:55:35.000 and all. I mean, we owe China money. We have, we are totally dependent on them for virtually everything.

00:55:41.800 So the idea that we can just go out there and say, you know, China's a human rights violator nation,

00:55:46.280 and we should just completely cut ourselves off from them the way they're talking about that with

00:55:50.200 Russia. Now that's not really possible because of the horrible policy decisions that have been made

00:55:56.840 by our government in the United States and also by European governments over a very long time where

00:56:02.580 they have shipped all of our jobs overseas. They have sold their souls to China for cheap labor and cheap 1.00

00:56:08.340 products so that we could have, you know, more television sets, bigger television sets, cheaper shoes,

00:56:14.400 et cetera. And now we have no ability to control our supply chain. We have no ability to cut

00:56:19.880 ourselves off from this, this really horrific government in many ways. And instead we have

00:56:25.980 to watch them take over, uh, um, uh, uh, Hong Kong and we have to probably watch them take over Taiwan

00:56:33.680 as well. Um, because what are we going to do? I mean, the NBA, I mean, there, there, there's been

00:56:38.900 incredible examples of people in the NBA, LeBron James, other people criticizing, uh, China, even just

00:56:45.140 sort of in passing or talking about Taiwan as though it were an actual nation have the audacity to do

00:56:51.020 that. And, and then immediately they have to apologize because somebody in China called somebody

00:56:56.960 in Hollywood or the NBA or whatever, and said, you can't say that about us. And immediately they

00:57:02.420 backed down because ultimately they are beholden to them in a way that we are not beholden to Russia.

00:57:08.560 And it would be very easy to destroy their energy industry and just figure out another way. It's

00:57:13.540 going to cause massive problems in the short term, but in the longterm, do we really need Russian 1.00

00:57:18.360 energy? Probably not. We can figure out some way around that, but do we need China's manufacturing at

00:57:24.140 this point in time? Yup. Or else we're not going to be able to function as an economy. Okay. But my

00:57:29.300 question about that would be if that's how they see things, why wouldn't the Biden administration

00:57:34.260 sanction Russian, the Russian oil industry? Why are we relying on Russian oil? Like if that,

00:57:41.740 if, if that's the, if that's the play, if that's the goal. Right. In the short term, the reason why

00:57:48.320 they're so concerned about doing this is because it would completely disrupt the price of it's already

00:57:55.200 disrupting the price of oil. You're seeing, you know, oil at over $120. I don't even know what it is

00:58:00.200 today. Yeah. It it's, it's totally insane. We're going to have eight, nine, $10 gasoline in some

00:58:06.240 parts of the world, a Western world. Um, you're seeing these kinds of things happen in Europe and

00:58:11.020 California. We already have five, $6 gasoline in certain places. It's going to get worse in the near

00:58:17.020 term. Economically, we're in a really bad place right now. Contrary to what Joe Biden keeps telling us,

00:58:22.700 he knows that we're in a really bad place. We have rampant inflation. And one of the big causes of

00:58:27.920 inflation is higher energy prices. We have a sluggish economy. We still have lots and lots

00:58:33.060 of jobs that we haven't recovered from the, the pandemic lockdowns and all of that.

00:58:37.420 Yeah. They keep saying that they keep saying, Oh, we added jobs last month. No months or jobs are

00:58:43.860 coming back that were lost over the months of lockdown. So this is not adding jobs. If you steal

00:58:50.760 someone's dollar and you give it back, that is not giving someone a dollar. Right. Exactly. And

00:58:57.300 especially if you don't even give them all the money back. So if you steal $10 and you give eight

00:59:02.060 of those dollars back, that's not, yeah, right. Exactly. That's not how it works, but that's the

00:59:07.040 logic of the white house right now in their messaging. So, I mean, they, they really can't

00:59:12.300 afford to kill it in many ways. Now, politically, I think they're feeling tremendous pressure from both

00:59:17.700 the left and the right to do just that. But economically it would be disastrous for America. It'd be

00:59:24.020 disastrous, even more disastrous for certain countries in Europe, uh, that are really heavily

00:59:28.960 dependent, like Germany, where they get a huge amount of their energy. I think it's like 20 to

00:59:34.700 30% or so ultimately comes from, from, uh, from Russia. I mean, they can't afford to just lose

00:59:41.420 access to 20% of their energy overnight. So, and the Biden administration is not willing to have more

00:59:47.360 domestic energy production. So we can't export our energy elsewhere because he's not allowing us to

00:59:53.900 do more drilling on public lands or put more liquefied natural gas, which is how you transport

00:59:59.660 natural gas overseas, uh, terminals into various places. He's not allowing us to do these things,

01:00:04.720 build more pipelines. So because of climate change. So if you're not going to do those things,

01:00:09.780 how is Europe going to be able to survive cutting themselves off from this key piece of their

01:00:16.040 economy? And that is exactly why Vladimir Putin chose to do it right now, because he knew that

01:00:21.760 it would be so hard for Europe and the United States to break away. It was a really smart,

01:00:27.200 strategic decision. Again, going back to this idea that he's not a crazy person, uh, in the sense that

01:00:32.660 he's irrational, right? He's, he's an authoritarian murderous thug, but he is a, a cold calculating,

01:00:39.580 well thought out murderous thug. And so these decisions are not insane. They make sense within

01:00:47.120 his understanding of the world and what he sees for Russia going forward.

01:00:51.340 And that's exactly why Putin under the Obama administration, Victor Davis Hanson was just

01:00:56.180 telling us about this, uh, that he actually, or actually he was saying in another podcast,

01:01:02.160 he didn't get to it when I was talking to him last week, but Putin has funded environmentalists

01:01:06.120 and environmental groups here because shutting down fracking and oil pipelines in the United

01:01:12.020 States means more dependence on Russia. And that of course has been a priority of, um, Joe Biden.

01:01:18.260 And now they're saying, Oh, well, you know, the Keystone XL pipeline, that would have taken years

01:01:23.500 to finish. And so it wouldn't have had any effect, but that's not the only step that Joe Biden has

01:01:29.180 taken in ensuring that we are depending on more foreign oil. And now apparently he is going to

01:01:34.660 Venezuela to try to lift sanctions and try to get more oil from him. So I just don't buy that this

01:01:41.520 whole climate thing that, Oh, we need to shut down these pipelines for it's about weakening the

01:01:47.320 United States and weakening the West. So even while they're saying all of this, we're basically

01:01:51.780 funding and Europe is basically funding the invasion of Ukraine by relying on Russia for oil that we

01:01:57.800 should not be relying on them for. Yeah, exactly. And, and if we had, even if we could snap our

01:02:04.560 fingers and magically run the entire country on windmills and solar panels, which is an impossibility,

01:02:10.840 where would those windmills and solar panels come from? They would come from China and China is also a

01:02:16.760 human rights abuser. So when you're going to the middle East to get additional oil, as they tried to do,

01:02:22.620 and Venezuela, another human rights violating nation to try to get that while making a moral 0.66

01:02:28.580 argument about what's going on with Russia and Ukraine, it's beyond hypocritical. They will do 1.00

01:02:34.020 anything they possibly can to avoid the obvious solution of just having more domestic energy

01:02:40.140 production here in the United States. They'll do anything. They'll go to any tyrant they can find

01:02:44.580 in order to avoid that obvious solution. And that's, there's many different reasons for that.

01:02:51.020 But I think the biggest reason is because this is the means by which they plan on transforming a large

01:02:57.800 segment of the economy. And the former, she may, he may have been chief of staff, but one of the high

01:03:03.980 level people within Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's camp, he's no longer there. When he was asked about the

01:03:11.660 Green New Deal at one point, maybe a couple years ago, he said, look, this isn't really about green energy.

01:03:18.820 This is about reshaping the economy. That's what this is about. Didn't you guys know that? I'm

01:03:22.900 paraphrasing, but that's what he said. So I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that that's the plan.

01:03:29.460 And if you just decide, you know what, we're going to ramp up domestic oil and gas and coal and all

01:03:33.720 this stuff in order to combat what's going on over there, you undermine all of the progress that

01:03:39.840 they've been trying to make toward that larger goal.

01:03:46.560 And to your point, this is also World Economic Forum line, Biden's energy secretary, I don't

01:03:53.520 think that we have this clip to play out, but I just remembered this, that she said that, yeah,

01:03:59.580 you know what, right now we are going through a difficult time with higher gas prices, but that's

01:04:03.800 because we are going through what she called an energy transition. All of this, they believe is

01:04:09.240 transitional, like you said, really for the reformation of the economy in line with their

01:04:15.980 interests and making sure that the fossil fuel energy goes out of business is part of that. Now,

01:04:22.680 whether or not that's truly because they think that's going to help the climate or just because

01:04:26.720 that helps their interests, I'm not sure, but that's what he said. And also one of Biden's nominees,

01:04:32.540 I'm not sure how to pronounce her name, Sally Omorova, she said in an interview recently,

01:04:40.140 interestingly, November 9th, 2021, we want the oil, coal and gas industries to go bankrupt. And

01:04:48.040 that's what we have to do if we want to tackle climate change. So it's also hard to believe that

01:04:54.160 a lot of this stuff isn't actually intentional. And then here, actually, I do have this clip. Let me

01:04:59.820 play this out for you and get your reaction. Pete Buttigieg, his response to this after Jen Psaki 0.95

01:05:04.900 said a lot of the things that you did that, oh, we just need clean energy. Not to mention,

01:05:08.880 not only do those windmills and solar panels come from China, also, they're not biodegradable.

01:05:15.480 They're actually, like, when you have to throw them away, the blades for the windmills,

01:05:19.740 they're actually bad for the environment. It's also ironic. So Jen Psaki saying that,

01:05:24.160 and then Pete Buttigieg is saying this, this is his grand solution to gas prices.

01:05:29.940 Last month, we announced a $5 billion investment to build out a nationwide electric vehicle charging

01:05:34.740 network. So the people from rural to suburban to urban communities can all benefit from the gas

01:05:40.980 savings of driving an EV. All right, so that's his solution, because that's what people want to do

01:05:46.820 right now. With record high inflation, people have just got, you know, 60,000 extra dollars lying

01:05:52.620 around in the couch cushions. They're going to say, oh, yeah, let me just get a brand new electric

01:05:58.560 car when the car dealerships don't even have the parts right now. I mean, this is his solution to

01:06:05.420 paying $5 a gallon for gas. Yeah, I mean, it's completely ridiculous. There is no demand for this.

01:06:13.440 There is no one clamoring for this to be the only option for people when they're buying a new car.

01:06:21.100 It has never been. There's never been a period of time where most consumers were like, you know,

01:06:26.460 we don't want gasoline powered cars anymore. There are some there's a there's a subsect of

01:06:31.440 them that want that. And that's fine. But the vast majority of people are fine with the cars that

01:06:36.620 they have now. There's no reason for us to go in that direction. There is no one clamoring.

01:06:41.520 And the idea that you would have a nationwide, you know, all of these different charging stations all

01:06:46.860 over the country in rural America, especially they don't care about this. So the idea that we need 0.97

01:06:53.940 to build this network because there's all these people in rural, I don't know, Kansas that want to

01:06:59.860 buy a Tesla, but they just can't figure out where to find a charging station is the most ridiculous

01:07:05.460 thing I've ever heard. Of course, they don't want that. You don't start with the charging stations that

01:07:10.240 work your way out. You start with the demand for the electric cars. And then you figure out a way to

01:07:15.300 build out the infrastructure for it after the fact. But again, it all stems from this idea that

01:07:20.220 they're not really they're not they're not doing this as a result of demand for these products and

01:07:25.560 services. They're doing it because they've decided this is the way they want the world to work. This

01:07:30.840 is how they want the economy to be transformed. And they're going to basically make people go in

01:07:35.980 that direction, whether they want to or not. Yep. Yep. And also what's also interesting in all of

01:07:42.140 this? And this is I know we have to end, but we are seeing even as they say people, you know,

01:07:48.660 Biden, Trudeau, that they're anti the authoritarianism of Putin. That that's what

01:07:54.780 they say. So they're fighting against climate change. They're fighting against authoritarianism.

01:07:58.280 They're fighting against misinformation and anti-democracy forces. That's why they're so

01:08:03.880 like pro-Ukraine, even as, by the way, totally missed it. But America, according to The New York

01:08:09.500 Times, bombed Somalia, an apparent extremist group in Somalia just last month, and like no one

01:08:16.440 no one made a peep about that. It's interesting. Who knows? Who knows the things that are going on

01:08:23.300 that we're not paying attention to while all of this is happening? No matter what you think about

01:08:29.460 Ukraine, there's no doubt in my mind that the Biden administration and all the people that we're

01:08:33.340 talking about will use it as a distraction tool. Absolutely. But going back to what I was saying just

01:08:39.080 about the hypocrisy of this is you've got someone like Trudeau, and I'm going to play this clip

01:08:44.660 quickly, saying that he who is World Economic Forum through and through, you've got Klaus Schwab

01:08:50.000 saying that they've, you know, penetrated cabinets with their World Economic Forum leaders that I think

01:08:55.220 and he said like half of Trudeau's cabinet, World Economic Forum, Trudeau has been praised by Klaus Schwab

01:09:01.020 himself. They say these fascists say that they are the ones that are opposing authoritarianism.

01:09:06.480 And let me play you the stunning clip from Justin Trudeau.

01:09:09.000 And we've talked about it in the news, not just about Ukraine, but about democracies around the

01:09:14.800 world that we see a bit of a slippage in our democracies. Countries turning towards slightly

01:09:23.360 more authoritarian leaders. Countries allowing increasing misinformation and disinformation

01:09:31.640 to be shared on social media, turning people against the values and the principles of democracies

01:09:37.900 that are so strong. Justin Haskins. This is the same guy that encouraged corporations and banks and

01:09:47.300 GoFundMe to cut off, to cut off truckers and peaceful protesters' supply of cash and resources because

01:09:57.460 they were opposing his dictatorial mandates in Canada. This is that same guy that is not afraid

01:10:04.700 to censor people if they say something that he doesn't like. And yet this is the same thing we see

01:10:09.840 with Joe Biden and these left-wing authoritarians. They say that they are for democracy. In actuality,

01:10:16.060 they are the ones that are pushing against any dissent. And it's so ironic, Justin Trudeau wearing his

01:10:22.700 little Ukrainian flag pin. I mean, I'm sorry, as we say in the South, there's a fly in the buttermilk

01:10:29.560 when it comes to all of this. Can you tell me just a little bit, we only have a little bit of time,

01:10:34.180 how everything that happened in Canada and what we saw, the actions by these banks, the push to

01:10:41.720 regulate cryptocurrency, to basically create a world in which, okay, a bank can cut you off if they don't

01:10:48.700 like what you say or they don't like your political stance. How does this all play into what's going on

01:10:53.480 with the Great Reset? Yeah, I mean, it's amazing. The champion of individual rights, even in that clip

01:10:59.740 right there where he's talking about how we're slipping towards authoritarianism, he specifically

01:11:04.020 uses as an example, people, governments allowing things that he calls misinformation on social media

01:11:12.220 as an example of authoritarianism. No, when you silence people on social media, that's an example of

01:11:19.220 authoritarianism, not the opposite, not allowing people to have free speech. That's not how this works.

01:11:25.280 Ultimately, going back to what we said earlier about this ideological war that's going on, there is a ton of

01:11:31.940 propaganda. The propaganda on the sort of Russian, nationalist, fascist kind of side of things with China and all

01:11:40.640 those people is that they justify their authoritarianism by saying this is to defend traditionalism.

01:11:47.360 It's to defend our values. It's to defend our identity and our ethnicities and all of these other

01:11:52.360 things, our borders. On the other side, it's supposedly to defend democracy. It's to defend

01:11:59.180 freedom as they define it, but not too much freedom, because if we have too much freedom, then that apparently

01:12:05.180 is also a form of authoritarianism is also a form of authoritarianism. And what you saw in Canada is

01:12:09.220 exactly what we're talking about. Both sides don't actually believe in freedom at all. They believe in

01:12:16.740 imposing their values, their wills, their policies, their economic transition plans, all of that stuff

01:12:22.780 on the rest of us, not giving us the ability to make our own choices. One side, because they have a very

01:12:28.600 paternalistic, traditionalistic understanding of the world and they want to defend it and not allow too much

01:12:33.880 freedom, because freedom means that we're going to slip away from our traditional values. And on the

01:12:39.420 other side, it's because if we give people too much freedom, then they might question our authority

01:12:44.460 and they might not buy into this whole plan of internationalizing everything. And we can't allow

01:12:51.000 for that either. Really, neither side is a good option. So any conservative that thinks that the sort of

01:12:57.800 national fascism side is closer to what you want is completely wrong. And any, honestly, many left-wing

01:13:03.760 liberal people. If you think that this sort of Justin Trudeau thing is the right way of going that

01:13:08.900 pathway, and you think that that's going to provide you with a free society, then you're totally wrong

01:13:14.460 too. Neither side is interested in giving people true freedom or true options. And that's why we have

01:13:20.600 to reject both of them at the same time and walk a middle course, which is really what America's

01:13:26.720 supposed to be all about to begin with. And I think that's why both sides really don't like what you and

01:13:31.520 I would consider to be traditional Americanism. Cool. Justin, Justin, Justin, what in the world?

01:13:38.760 I guess we are just doing everything that we can and talking about this. I know we've talked about

01:13:44.340 before just giving people kind of like action items, localize, depend on your community, yourself,

01:13:51.860 your family. If you don't go to church, get into a local church, hunker down, start depending on

01:13:56.980 yourself, on each other, make your world smaller, less overwhelming, continue to pursue that which

01:14:04.420 is good and right and true. Don't compromise on our values at all, and just continue to seek the

01:14:11.400 truth. There's a lot of propaganda. There's a lot of nefarious actors out there. Thank you so much for

01:14:16.920 helping us clear through the chaos per usual. I'm sure we'll have you back on really soon.

01:14:21.840 Thank you so much, Justin. Of course. Anytime.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - March 08, 2022

Ep 578 ｜ Putin vs. the Great Reset？｜ Guest： Justin Haskins

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - March 08, 2022

Ep 578 ｜ Putin vs. the Great Reset？ ｜ Guest： Justin Haskins

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Ep 578 ｜ Putin vs. the Great Reset？｜ Guest： Justin Haskins