Ep 585 ｜ Gender Ideology Is Revealing Its Demonic Motives
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Summary
In this episode, Allie talks about transgender swimmer Leah Thomas, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' illness, and the controversy surrounding Dave Rubin's surrogacy announcement. Allie also talks about her response to the controversial Dave Rubin surrogacy video.
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Hey guys, happy Monday. Welcome to Relatable. This episode is brought to you by our friends
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All right, today we're going to talk about a few things. Mainly we are going to focus
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on the transgender, the so-called transgender swimmer named Leah Thomas at the University
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of Pennsylvania. We have talked about him several times. This is a man who is now identifying
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swimming as a woman and because I don't believe that biology is bigotry, I will use the correct
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pronouns. That's not me trying to be purposely inflammatory or offensive. I certainly don't
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want to be that, but because I don't want to lie, I also will not call Leah Thomas she because he
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is a man. And we are going to look at some of the consequences of his maleness competing against
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women and how this really is a travesty for women and girls sports. Now, before we get into that,
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I do want to note a couple of things. One, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, currently the best
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justice on the bench by far. He is in the hospital sick with an infection. Apparently his symptoms
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are abating. He is being treated with antibiotics, but we should certainly be praying for him, praying
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for his quick and full recovery. Obviously, these are lifetime appointments. And so the justices,
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when they're getting up there, there are all of these very scary moments, these precarious moments
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where you're wondering really about the fate of your country. If a Supreme Court justice who is on the
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side that you represent for conservatives, it's on the side of the Constitution, it's a little scary.
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It's a little frightening. But more than that, you care about them as a person. We greatly admire
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Clarence Thomas on this show. He has a family who I know cares about him a lot. So we should be praying
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for him. Also, I don't recommend going on Twitter and clicking on the Clarence Thomas hashtag because you
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will unfortunately see a lot of leftists saying that either they hope that he dies or I saw someone
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so admirable say that she was taking the high road by saying that she doesn't wish him to die,
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but she does wish that he is so sick that he is forced into an early retirement. And I tweeted her
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before she then blocked me. It should really worry you when your high road is that low. I saw someone else
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say that her high road goes through a valley. And I think that is unfortunately true. We prayed for
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg that she would make a full recovery when she was sick. We said kind words
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about her when she died. And I think that the same respect, of course, should be afforded to Clarence
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Thomas. From the other side, the jury is still out on whether we will see that. But let us pray for his
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full recovery so he can get back to defending the Constitution. Speaking of the Supreme Court,
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Biden's Supreme Court nominee is going through the start of her Senate hearing today. She has to be
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confirmed by the Senate. She very likely will be confirmed by the Senate. It'll probably be bipartisan.
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However, there has been some troubling stuff come up about her record by Senator Josh Hawley.
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And Christopher Ruffo, whom we've had on this podcast several times, has also brought up some
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of her previous decisions and published writings that should perhaps make us question whether or not
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she truly is a partial judge. So we will get into that at some point this week, maybe tomorrow.
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And one more thing before we get started. So a lot of you asked me, sincerely, in good faith last week,
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my response to Dave Rubin's surrogacy announcement. And I put out a video last night that covers my
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thoughts on it. I will link it in the description to this episode. And for those of you who have
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already watched it, thank you so much for your kind words, for your encouragement. I got a lot of
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messages from people who disagreed with me but still appreciated the video or who maybe previously
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didn't see a problem with the announcement and then maybe changed their minds or they saw a
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different perspective. There were several people who, several conservatives who did congratulate
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Dave originally who reached out to me and thanked me for the video. I'm not taking, you know, I'm not
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patting myself on the back or anything like that. I just wanted to add clarity to a very confusing
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situation as someone who really respects Dave Rubin. I wanted to balance having integrity and staying
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true to my values and ensuring that I am representing what I believe to be true while also not compromising
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my respect for him as a person. And so hopefully, hopefully I accomplished that. Take a look at that
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video if you haven't already. There are other things that I could say about it, like more personal
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things for me as a mom, why the whole situation is difficult for me. But I won't get into all of
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that. I think that the video does a good job of summing up the most important reasons why I could
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not congratulate him as much as I think that they're great people and as much as I will be praying for
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them and their children who are on the way. All right, let's get into Leah. Let's get into this Leah
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Thomas story. So again, he is a swimmer for the University of Pennsylvania. He won the 500-yard
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freestyle first place at the NCAA Division I women's swimming and diving meet over the weekend. And
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this got a lot of press because there were protesters and there were former female athletes who were
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there. They were taking interviews and they were talking about their problems with what's going on.
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And then there were also NCAA athletes who have finally spoken up about this. And, you know,
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this whole story, watching him win, compete against women, women who didn't really stand a chance
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against him in this particular event, it really just reminds us the reality of reality, the nature of
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reality. I like to say that it's like a beach ball. You can keep on trying to push it under the water.
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It's going to keep popping back up. That is the reality of human biology. And it's really crazy to
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see how the ACLU and other left-wing activist partisan organizations are trying to deny this.
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You're never going to be able to deny this. I'll pull up a picture if you're watching on YouTube.
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I can't, I couldn't figure out at first if this picture was real. So you've got Leah Thomas. I mean,
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he's got to be over six feet tall. There is, I'm not trying to be rude. This is not making fun of
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someone's appearance because to say that a man looks like a man is not a derogatory statement. That's not
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mean. I am saying that a man looks like a man. I am not saying that he is ugly. I'm not saying anything
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like that. But there is nothing about him that looks female whatsoever. There is no part of this
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person's stature, no part of this person's countenance, no part of this person's makeup
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that looks female or feminine in any way. I mean, you're looking at someone who looks like he's over
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six feet tall. He obviously has broad shoulders. He has male muscles. He has a large wingspan, large
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feet, longer legs. And as a male, we know that he has greater muscle mass. He has a bigger heart that
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can pump blood more quickly. He has a greater lung capacity. That's anaerobic and aerobic capacity.
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All of these things make it very difficult for your average woman or even an elite woman to beat him
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in an event, especially when it comes to swimming. And so this picture, you can see a lot of what I just
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described. So he is standing on the, you know, champion podium. And then the women, the actual
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women who got second, third and I guess fourth place. So that's Emma Wyatt, Erica Sullivan and
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Brooke Ford. They are all standing together, like lumped together on their own podium, holding their
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trophies and smiling for the camera. I'm not sure if they meant that as some kind of protest,
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but wow, this is such an iconic picture here. You have a man who is basically competing against
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himself. And then you have the women who were really essentially competing against each other.
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And so in my mind, and in reality, Emma Wyatt, who got second place or way, and I'm not sure how to
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pronounce her last name is the true champion here. There's no doubt about that. So on Friday night,
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Leah finished in fifth place in the 200-yard freestyle final and event. He was favored to
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win with a time of 1.43.40. I don't really know anything about swimming. I'm sure that's really
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good. Now, let us remember that when Leah was Will, he was about 400th when it came to collegiate
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swimming among men. And look, that's really good. That means like he is an objectively good athlete.
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You have to be really good in order to make it, you know, in college athletics and to be part of
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the first, you know, the top 500 collegiate swimmers in the country. That's really good. But now he's
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number one. And all of the people saying so ridiculously that he's just a good athlete and
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this is what good athletes do. They win and we should applaud him. You're going to have to square
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that circle for me. You're telling me that him going on estrogen, which I guess he has for the
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past year and a half, him going on estrogen is like what made him a champion. Like he's just worked
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really hard over the past couple of years. That put him at 400 to number one. Or maybe it is because
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he's competing against people who are much smaller and much weaker than him. I mean, I just, it's,
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it's like we're in the twilight zone guys. It's like we're in the twilight zone. So some people are
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using this as a way to prove that crazy point that he has no advantage, that he finished last place
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in the 100 freestyle final at the NCAA championships with a time of 48-18. And so you'll have people say,
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well, see, it is possible for him to lose. It's possible for a woman to beat him. Well, first of all,
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I'm not totally sure that's legit. There was a woman who was interviewed, who was a college
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track star. I saw this on Twitter and I don't know if I have the clip, so I can't pull it up right now,
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but she had to compete in college against a boy who was identifying as a girl. And she said that the
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thing that was so disheartening for her was while she was running, hearing the coach on the sidelines
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tell the guy who was identifying as a girl running in front of her to slow down. So there's also part
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of this. Now I'm not saying that's what Leah Thomas did in this particular event. Like maybe he is just
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like really bad at the 100 yard freestyle, but that doesn't take away again, the objective reality
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that men have an advantage over women. We've talked about that Duke university study. I can link it once
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again in the description of this episode that showed the 10 to 12 point or 10 to 12 percent
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performance gap between elite women athletes, elite female athletes, and elite male athletes.
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And the gap still exists, but existed between non elite male athletes and elite female athletes.
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They noted that Alison Felix, her, she's an Olympian runner. Her record, her fastest time was actually
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beaten tens of thousands of times. Actually, I think it was 15,000 times by men and hundreds of
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times by high school boys. So the fastest female runner in the world still isn't as fast as hundreds
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of high school boys. That's just what the data says. So even if there is some exception or some anomaly,
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even if Leah Thomas or any other man who identifies as a girl at one point, you know,
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might, uh, might, uh, might lose, uh, against a girl or a woman that does not negate the reality of
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their biological advantage. I think the really sad part about this is not just that he took a title
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away from women, uh, but also that he knocked, he, he knocked other women. He knocked another women
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out of this competition because there were only 16 spots. And so the girl that came in 17th,
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she wasn't able to compete in this competition because she was knocked out by Leah Thomas.
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Let me play you a clip of an interview between Savannah Hernandez. She does these man on the
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street interviews with an athlete who was at the event, protesting the event, speaking up about
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Leah Thomas competing and her description of a woman that she knows, a college woman that she knows
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learning that she didn't make the cut because Leah Thomas was competing.
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You're a Virginia tech swimmer. What did you think about Leah Thomas competing today as a swimmer in
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this competition? Um, what are you feeling? What are other athletes feeling?
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It's a common conception that we are all very disappointed and frustrated with someone who is,
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has capabilities more than us women have to be able to compete at this level and take opportunities
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away from other women. Like I have a teammate who did not make finals today because she was
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just bumped out of finals and it's heartbreaking to see someone who went through puberty as a male
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and has the body of a male be able to absolutely blow away the competition. And you go into with a
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mindset that you are, you don't have a chance, if that makes sense. Like it's hard to compete against
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someone with the aerobic capacity, the muscle development, the body of a man. It's hard. It's hard to
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think about it like that and staying positive. I bet for other swimmers who are in that heat is
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probably overwhelming. I'm not sure I can't speak for them, but it's disappointing to see and
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frustrating. Definitely. And you said that one of your teammates was crying today because she didn't
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make the finals. You said that she was 17th and there were 16 spots. So Leah Thomas took one of those
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spots. Talk to us about what your teammate was going through and that experience. She was very
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emotional and it's hard to see because it's her last NCAAs and she really loves that race. And it
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was just heartbreaking to see that she put all her effort into it today and when the best time that
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she's went in a morning session before and still not make it back. It's hard to see someone who works
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every day, every night, still not be able to compete against someone like that. So you've got these young
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women who have worked their whole lives for this, who have worked so hard. I mean, countless hours.
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I'm not an athlete. And so I only know from the outside the dedication and the time that is
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committed to these kinds of athletics. But I just can't imagine the disappointment and the
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discouragement and just how demoralized and helpless you feel because it's not only that,
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okay, you are unfairly kicked out of an event. It's that you can't even speak up about it without
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being demonized, without being villainized. We had Ainsley Arizon on our podcast a few weeks ago.
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Todd Arizon is her dad and he is on Steve Dace's podcast and she is going to run at the University
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of Arkansas next year. She's awesome. And she wrote an op-ed for the Des Moines Register just basically
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saying, look, I've worked my whole life to do this and it's not fair to make me or any female athlete
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compete against men. And the ugliness that they have received from her peers, from random people
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on the internet, I mean, really just some of the most disgusting and disparaging threats and tweets
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and messages for her simply saying, hey, look, I want fair competition. I mean, that's really
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intimidating for people who are thinking of speaking up too. They want to be courageous. They want to
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speak up for what they know is true and right and fair, but they're scared too because they don't want
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to put themselves at risk. They don't want to put their family at risk. I mean, we're even talking
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about people's safety. Like when we're talking about people on campus who speak up about this stuff,
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I think they're truly afraid the activists could physically attack them or try to irreparably
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damage their reputation. That's a lot of pressure for a young person to take on. So for everyone who
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says, well, why don't women just boycott these events? Like why don't more women just speak up
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about this? Why don't these college athletes do something? Look, I agree to an extent. I would love
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to see every female athlete just refuse to compete. Really, I think that's the only way that this is
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going to change because you don't have sports. Like you don't have any competition if all of the
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women say, look, until I am no longer forced to compete against a man or a boy, I'm not competing at
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all. I agree that that could be effective, but I think we have to have some compassion for these
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women. Again, they're going through a lot. This is a lot of pressure. They're dealing with threats to
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their safety. And so I also don't want to put too much of an obligation on them. However, if you're
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listening to this and you are an athlete and you're good at organizing and you think you can rally the
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troops and you can perform some kind of walkout protest, then I say absolutely go for it. We like to
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say on this podcast that courage begets courage. Be the person who stands up and says something and
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says, this is wrong. I don't want to deal with this anymore. And then you, the next person, stand up and
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say, you know what? I see the arrows going your way. I'm going to share those arrows with you. And then
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it just goes on and on like a domino effect. That's what I would love to see happen here. But if that
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doesn't happen, if that can't happen, I think we have to be very slow to lay the responsibility at these
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girls' feet. I really wonder in some cases, like what the parents are doing, what the dads are
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doing. So often you do see moms speak up and say, this is not fair for my daughter. I think a lot of
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moms are scared to do that again. No one wants to be called the bigot. Our fear of name calling makes
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us so cowardly. But where are the dads? I know a lot of dads do. A lot of dads do speak up. And so I'm
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not saying that they never do. But man, and I know some people are going to say, oh, you're advocating for
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some kind of controlling patriarchy. But it seems to me like if all of the dads stood up and said, no,
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I'm sorry, my daughter's not competing. Like we're not, we're not going to do this. We and the dads led
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the way in this kind of protest. That could also make a difference on every front line of the culture
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war. We need strong men and specifically strong dads, whether you're talking about this, or you're
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talking about abortion. I just think it would make a huge difference if more men and more dads of these
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female athletes were speaking up. But there are, there are some female athletes that in the face of
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very real danger, who are finally saying, you know what, enough is enough. I'm going to say something
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about this. So I want to read you some of the words of those women who are so bravely speaking up.
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Mary Margaret Olehan works for the Daily Wire now. And I just love her. She's a great follow. She's a
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great journalist. She's just really strong on the things that matter. So I encourage you to go follow
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her. She has been posting these letters, these open letters, these public letters that have been
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published by some NCAA athletes. And so she published a letter by the athlete that was pushed out of the
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competition, who came in 17th because Leah Thomas took her spot. So let me read you some of what she
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said. She posted this on Instagram. She said, my name is Rika Georgi from Hungary. I'm a 2016 Rio
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Olympian, represented Virginia Tech for the past five years, a two-time ACC champion, two-time All-American,
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and three-time honorable mention, All-American, wrote Virginia Tech swimmer Rika Georgi. With all
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due respect, I would like to address something that is a problem in our sport right now and hurting
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athletes, especially swimmers. Everyone has heard and known about transgender swimmer Leah Thomas.
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And I'll just say Georgi is using she, her pronouns. I'm sure, you know, I think a lot of these people,
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they're scared that using male pronouns is going to take away from the crux of their message. And so they
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just kind of go ahead and give that point and like seed that ground so that people can focus on
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the unfairness, which is the argument that they're making, which I understand. So when I am quoting
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her, I am using she, her pronouns for Leah Thomas, even though that's not something I do. So Georgi says,
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in her case, including all the issues and concerns that her situation brought into our sport, she is
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doing what she is passionate about and deserves that right. But on the other hand, I would like to
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critique the NCAA rules that allow her to compete against us who are biologically women. I'm writing
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this letter right now in the hopes that the NCAA will open their eyes and change these rules in the
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future. It doesn't promote our sport in a good way. And I think it is disrespectful against the
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biologically female swimmers who are competing in the NCAA. I'm a fifth year senior. I've been top 16
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and top eight before, and I know how much of a privilege it is to make the finals in a meet this big.
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This is my last college meet ever. And I feel frustrated. It feels like the final spot was taken
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away from me because of the NCAA's decision to let someone who is not biologically female compete.
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I know you could say I had the opportunity to swim faster and make the top 16, but this situation makes
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it a bit different. And I can't help but be angry or sad. It hurts me and other women in the pool.
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One spot was taken away from the girl who got ninth in the 500 free and didn't make it back to
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the A final, preventing her from being an All-American. Every event that transgender
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athletes competed in was one spot taken away from biological females throughout the meet.
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Yorgi noted that the NCAA knew what was coming this past week. They knew opinions and minds will
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be divided and chose to do nothing. This week has been more about reporters, media and division in our
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sport than things like two women going under 21 seconds in the 50 freestyle, three women going under 50
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seconds at 100 butterfly, and the first woman in history to go under 48 seconds in the 100 backstroke.
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I ask that the NCAA takes the time to think about all other, the other biological women in swimming.
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Try to think about how they would feel if they would be in our shoes. Make the right changes for our
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sport and for a better future in swimming. Yes and amen. I am so glad that she is saying something.
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It's going to require a lot more people standing up, sharing those arrows and being courageous in
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saying something. Look, I don't know if that will make a difference. Unfortunately, these institutions
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are completely dominated by a postmodern stupid ideology that rejects the idea of truth. Now,
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not all of the people in those institutions making these decisions that are made at the expense of women
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and girls are actually ideologically left wing. They're just scared. They're scared. Maybe money
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is on the line and so they're grifters. Most people just don't have moral fortitude in general. Most
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people really do just go along to get along. They really do just let themselves be tossed on the winds
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of change and don't take even a second to think, is this a good change? Is this right? Who is on the other
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side of this change? They just believe propaganda. They believe what the mainstream media says. They
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don't question popular narratives. And I think a lot of people honestly don't even let themselves
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question popular narratives because if you let yourself question a popular narrative, I think
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we discussed this last week, then you might feel pressure or obligation to speak up against a popular
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narrative. And guess what? You're going to be called a bigot. You're going to be called a racist.
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You're going to be called a homophobe. You're going to be called a transphobe. And that's why I've said in
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the past. And of course, left-wingers think this is so ridiculous when I say this, but that's because
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it takes an arrow out of their quiver. You just have to not care. You just have to not care about
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being called a phobe if what you're saying is true. If what you're saying is true and if what
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you're saying is necessary and you are speaking up on behalf of people who are being damaged and
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victimized by these cultural, political, and social changes, then it doesn't really matter what
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you're called. Of course, people who deny reality are going to hate what you say. Remember what we
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said in that Beckett-Cook interview that Jesus, and Stephen is also described this way in the Bible,
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full of grace and truth. And a lot of times we think that if, okay, we police our tone enough,
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if we use enough caveats, if we're nice enough, if we're sweet enough about what we say, then the world
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will still love us when we're speaking truth, when we are either saying that the biology of male and
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female is real, or when we're speaking up about the horror of abortion, or when we're saying the
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most controversial truth that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and that no one will come
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to the Father except through him, then maybe people will like us and they won't hate us so much.
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They won't persecute us like they persecute other people. And then we look at other messengers of
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those controversial topics who are getting lambasted, and we say, oh, it's because they didn't say it the
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right way. It's because their tone wasn't exactly right. It's because they weren't sweet enough,
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or they weren't polite enough. Guys, Jesus and Stephen both, full of grace and truth,
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Scripture tells us, what was their fate? Jesus and Stephen were both executed. Jesus was crucified
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on a cross, and Stephen was stoned to death. And so being full of grace and truth does not guarantee
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that you are going to get a good response. And people's response to you, them calling you names
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or not, is not indicative of whether or not what you're saying is right. If what you're saying is
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true, and if what you're saying is necessary, which I think in this case it absolutely is,
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then it really doesn't matter the pushback or the reaction that you get. It doesn't matter if you're
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ratioed on Twitter. It doesn't matter if people send you mean messages. It doesn't matter if people
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try to exile you from polite society. It doesn't matter what you're saying is worth it because the
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truth is always worth it. And so I really commend Rika. I really commend the other swimmers. I really
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commend the protesters that were at this event. One thing that I was really impressed by that when
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Savannah and I think Mary Margaret as well was out there, they were interviewing these women who
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were protesting Leah Thomas competing, and they refused to call him she. And that seems like a
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really little thing. But guys, conservative outlets, conservative news outlets all the time are now
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using female pronouns for males who identify as women. And I think a really good question for us to ask is
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why is that the journalistic standard when I thought that all journalists with integrities were told not
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to lie? Like, why is that the one lie that we are allowed to tell? Because a man calls himself a woman,
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we're supposed to use the term she, her. So now we're just allowed to lie because it's politically
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incorrect to tell the truth. Is that what journalism is? And so it actually does take courage. And I think
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it matters. I think it matters to use the correct pronouns for someone. Because if you use the
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incorrect pronouns, like, for example, the leader of CPAC, Matt Schlapp did the other day when he was
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talking about this subject, then you have just ceded the entire conversation. You are saying that it is
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actually possible for so-called gender identity to trump biology. And if you call a man she, then why can't
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that man go into a girl's bathroom? Why can't that man then compete against women? The language
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actually matters. The left understands this way better than the right. The left is always trying to
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shift and evolve the definitions of words so that they can accomplish the things that they want to
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accomplish. They use euphemisms like reproductive justice, for example, to try to then pay anyone who
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would stand against that, which is actually abortion, as someone who stands with injustice. It's just
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what they do. And so we have to be very careful, I think, about the language that we use. And so I
00:29:32.220
commend, I commend the women who refused to call Leah Thomas a she. I think that's really, really important.
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All right. So I just wanted to know a couple more things. I thought that Caitlyn Jenner had an
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interesting tweet. Obviously, we know Caitlyn Jenner was Bruce Jenner tried now presents as a woman,
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and I'm sure someone told him to write this tweet. It's just kind of crazy. So Pink News tweeted,
00:30:05.720
Caitlyn Jenner launches yet another disgraceful attack on trans athletes without a hint,
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of irony. I just want to know, like, what the irony is, first of all, because Bruce competed
00:30:16.980
against men. He competed against men. He didn't. It would be one thing if he had transitioned and
00:30:22.540
tried to be a woman and compete against other women's, other women's, other women back in the
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day. But at least he is acknowledging the difference. And he said this, which this is like the ironic
00:30:35.320
kind of funny part. And maybe you don't listen to this if you have kids in the car. He said,
00:30:39.040
no, I just had the balls to stand up for women and girls in sports. Now, I think that's probably
00:30:44.260
just a tweet to try to get conservatives on his side. You know, he was running for a governor of
00:30:51.540
California as a Republican. And so he's really tried to kind of like walk the line on, walk the line on
00:30:59.740
this one, although I do. I do respect him and appreciate him continuing to stand up for women's
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sports, even though people who share his stated identity would typically not do so. People who are
00:31:14.720
able to kind of separate their own personal experiences and feelings from objective reality,
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even though I don't agree him trying to project his personal feelings on other people,
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I appreciate his ability to separate and still see objective reality about the differences in
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biology and stand up for that. I think there's certainly something to be said for that.
00:31:38.280
All right. I want to read one more story from The Daily Wire. It's a disturbing story. It goes
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along with the subject that we're talking about. And it goes along with what we've talked about a lot
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about how the progressive ideology, especially the gender ideology, really is predatory. And it banks
00:31:57.720
on the predation of children in order to be perpetuated. It is very cult-like in that way.
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So let me read you this disturbing story. It's just a reminder of how careful we have to be that the
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world does not love our children, that secular society, the society in general doesn't love our
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children. The state doesn't care about our children. That is why God gave children their
00:32:20.820
parents. And we have to take this job so seriously. So here's the title of this article. There's no
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coexisting with evil like this. Leading Children's Hospital offers a device for boys to tuck their
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genitals out of sight. Demonic. That is demonic. If you are on this site, this is the thing. Before I
00:32:39.120
even get into this article, I know there are a lot of Christians who try to say that this subject is so,
00:32:43.840
you know, it's so nuanced. We need to respect people's stated identity. I don't even think
00:32:50.160
that you realize the level of demonic activity that is to play here. I don't think that you
00:32:56.080
realize and there's I'm going to have an episode that's going to uncover a lot of this stuff that
00:33:00.560
I've been researching actually with the help of or because of a feminist who I don't agree with on a
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lot of stuff, but is doing a lot of work to uncover the industry that is preying upon children.
00:33:13.280
When it comes to gender transitioning and stuff, I don't even think you realize the level of
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depravity and darkness that exists in this. There's just not a whole lot of nuance. And in being
00:33:23.900
rude, and I use scare quotes in speaking the truth about this subject, what we are actually doing is
00:33:30.880
trying to save people out of a destructive lifestyle and ideology. It's the most loving thing
00:33:41.020
we can possibly do. I mean, just listen to this. And if you don't just feel a pit in your stomach
00:33:45.680
and an urge to start speaking the truth and speaking out about this, I really don't know
00:33:49.760
what to tell you. This is about as dark as it gets. So Dernbecher Children's Hospital in Portland,
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which bills itself as Oregon's top ranked children's hospital, boasts a gender clinic,
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which offers advice for the safe tucking of a boy's genitals out of the way that can make the
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genital area look smoother. And I am having a hard time. I'm having a hard time even reading
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this without crying smoother and flatter, as well as a referral to a sex positive shop in Portland.
00:34:18.940
They sell gender affirming clothing items, as well as sex toys, videos and more guys. There is
00:34:26.920
something about this ideology and about this transgender movement that seems to be, I'll just say
00:34:34.340
inextricably intertwined with sexualization and the sexualization of children. Because we keep
00:34:40.080
seeing this correlation popping up over and over again. And it's hard not to see it as a pattern
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that at the same time that they're trying to encourage boys to tuck away the genitals that
00:34:52.240
God gave them, they are sending them to a shop that has sex toys, I guess, pornographic videos and more.
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Like, are we starting to see a pattern here? Unfortunately, I think we are. Unfortunately,
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I think we are. So here's what the gender clinic states. Safe tucking. What is tucking? Tucking is
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moving the penis testicles or both out of the way. This makes the genital area look smoother and flatter.
00:35:16.620
Tucking can reduce any concerns you have about your body. Okay, are we even thinking about how this
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is actually physically harmful for these boys? I can't imagine that this is good for them.
00:35:27.500
There are several different methods of tucking. The information below helps you tuck in ways that
00:35:32.100
are safe for your body. Don't believe it because these are the same kind of people who say abortion
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is safe. Abortion literally murders a child. So I don't believe that this is safe in any way.
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The information uses the words penis, scrotum and testicles. We know you may not use those terms or
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identify with them. We use them here to refer to body parts that people with tucking needs have while
00:35:52.540
understanding those words are not for everyone. And then it gives advice on how to do that,
00:35:58.800
when to do that, where to, where to do that. Talks about using tape. I mean, how young are we
00:36:04.160
talking here? This is a children's hospital. So I'm guessing below the age of 12. I mean,
00:36:08.960
these people should be put in prison. The fact that we live in a society where these people are not just
00:36:13.500
allowed to live among us freely, but are also paid and celebrated to do this. Like, how have we not
00:36:22.300
been destroyed by God already? Wow. God is exceedingly, exceedingly patient, far more patient
00:36:28.820
than I think that any of us have even realized. I mean, is this even as bad as Sodom and Gomorrah?
00:36:36.600
I mean, surely there was less evil happening at the time of the flood than this. Of course,
00:36:41.860
God promised that he would never flood the earth again, but still, I mean, how are we not incurring
00:36:47.320
the absolute wrath of God at this very moment? It has to just be that God's grand plan of redemption
00:36:53.980
and his desire to get the glory and to draw people to himself is allowing him to be patient with us
00:37:04.120
because we deserve, these people deserve every bit of fiery wrath that is coming for them. I
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cannot, it's hard for me to imagine a much greater evil than this. And so it describes the tape that
00:37:18.120
is supposed to be used, talks about how to tape the testicles and all different kinds of things that
00:37:25.540
honestly, I don't even want to read, but it goes, it says you should not feel faint or nauseated or
00:37:31.600
have extreme pain. If you do take a break and try again later. This children's hospital says,
00:37:39.080
the handout warns once the testicles are tucked, pull the penis. I'm sorry. I can't, I can't,
00:37:43.800
I can't read the rest of it. I can't, I'm sorry. I feel like I already read too much. I, again,
00:37:51.240
the thing, the only thing that comforts me when I read this kind of thing, all of this that we're
00:37:55.720
talking about is so demonic. It goes against God's created order. Um, the only thing that comforts me
00:38:02.260
in all of this is that one day Jesus is going to come back and he's going to deal with evil and he's
00:38:07.280
going to deal with wickedness once and for all. And that this kind of sin, this kind of iniquity
00:38:12.600
and travesty will not reign anymore. And that he will one day destroy it all and he will destroy all
00:38:20.200
evildoers and he will reign in perfect justice, in perfect peace forevermore. I mean, those who think
00:38:28.800
that God is not wrathful and that he's not going to take care of evil, like, where's your hope? How do
00:38:34.720
you deal with the evil that goes on in the world? Like, how do you deal with abuse like this?
00:38:41.020
If not by comforting yourself with the knowledge that in God's sovereignty and goodness and in his
00:38:48.400
commitment to justice, he is going to take care of evil once and for all. But until that happens,
00:38:54.360
like we have a responsibility. We have a responsibility. You need to stop messing around
00:38:59.280
with thinking that we can nuance our way out of these tough conversations about gender. We do not
00:39:05.240
even understand the darkness and the depravity and the child predation that is going on in this
00:39:11.840
industry and in this movement. I'm not saying that every person who is a part of this movement,
00:39:16.800
every person who identifies as transgender, or even most people who identify as transgender,
00:39:21.160
are part of what we're talking about or condone what we're talking about. But the industry itself,
00:39:26.800
the movement itself, it is so dark. It is so absolutely nefarious. And so we need to,
00:39:34.100
as lovingly and as boldly as we possibly can, continue to speak up against this, to push back
00:39:39.460
against this at every single term. These children are worth it. The people whose lives are being
00:39:45.140
destroyed, whose bodies are being destroyed at such a young age, they're absolutely worth it. If the church
00:39:50.100
is not for this, if this is not one of the purposes of the church, then man, I don't know what is.
00:39:56.800
There are a lot of different things that the church is for, absolutely. But it has to also be
00:40:01.500
to be a refuge of clarity and of courage and of truth in times of absolute chaos and immorality.
00:40:13.100
All right, tomorrow, I believe that we are going to talk about the Walt Disney Company's
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employee walkout in protest of the company not taking a strong enough stance against the parental
00:40:27.320
rights and education bill, which is HB 1557 in Florida. Critics dub it the don't say gay bill.
00:40:34.840
We have debunked all of the propaganda on that bill several times. We can link a past episode on
00:40:40.720
that. I've also got a video on my Instagram talking about that. And we're going to talk about
00:40:45.820
what that all means. I've got a column coming out for World Magazine on it tomorrow. So I think we
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are going to cover that tomorrow and send me some ideas of things that you would like me to address
00:40:56.020
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