Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 586 ｜ The Mental Health Experts Are Making Us Feel Worse

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00:00:23.160 Okay, I don't know if it's like this where you are, but spring has sprung for the most part

00:00:28.620 where I am. And it is like just beautiful weather. And my mood is improved so much by the sunshine

00:00:37.100 and it's staying lighter longer. I was just talking before this about we had like the perfect

00:00:43.860 day on Sunday. And last night there was a tornado warning. Sorry, I don't know why that made me

00:00:49.580 laugh. I guess I was just thinking about the fact that we were stuck in our closet at bedtime with

00:00:54.600 two babies and it was really difficult. But my husband and I were like, you know what,

00:00:58.520 if yesterday, if Sunday were our last day on earth, that would be okay because it was a perfect day.

00:01:04.040 We had a picnic and then our kids slept for like two and a half hours in the afternoon.

00:01:09.960 It was just amazing. So I hope that the start to your spring is great. And congratulations,

00:01:15.640 congratulations are in order for all of my fellow survivors of the dark winter of severe

00:01:22.760 illness and death. So congrats to all of us. We made it. It was the first day of spring

00:01:28.180 on Sunday. And if you'll remember, Biden's administration said that this was going to

00:01:34.280 be a dark winter. And then at another point, they said it's going to be a winter of severe

00:01:38.860 illness and death. So just kind of speaking that over their political enemies, pretty,

00:01:44.320 pretty depraved stuff. But thankfully, many of us survived. Good job on that. Praise the Lord for that.

00:01:51.840 And now it is spring and it's almost Easter and that it's summer. And you guys know how much I

00:01:56.560 love summer. And so I am just I'm happy. I'm happy. And speaking of happiness, that actually

00:02:02.500 brings me to what we will be talking about on the first part of today's episode before we get to the

00:02:07.340 rest of this stuff. The first part that I want to talk about is the happiness or lack thereof of

00:02:13.480 teenage girls today. I saw this really interesting article and I want to talk about it inside the mental

00:02:19.960 health epidemic among teenage girls. This is on newstatesman.com. And we talk, you know, a lot

00:02:26.960 about mental health. And I think the the deficit of good mental health practices in the United States,

00:02:34.960 it's really the mental health practices that we often see represented on social media and even in

00:02:40.820 therapist's office is kind of this new age superficial stuff. And so we're going to talk about where I think

00:02:45.840 that's coming up short based on this. And the reason that we're talking about that first before

00:02:49.760 we get into what I said we would talk about today, which is this whole Disney protest and Disney speaking

00:02:55.500 out about the Florida legislation that solidifies parents' rights and education is because I just

00:03:00.420 kind of want to take a little bit of a break, take a step back. We talked about Leah Thomas and

00:03:05.480 the transgender movement infiltrating women's sports yesterday. And there's been a lot of talk about

00:03:11.540 that. A lot of commentators have talked about that. So I just kind of wanted to to break it up

00:03:16.800 a little bit, break up this culture war stuff just a bit and talk about something that we have been

00:03:22.220 talking about for a long time on Relatable that I wrote my book about, You're Not Enough and That's

00:03:26.800 Okay. And that is the failure of understanding and properly treating and addressing this mental health

00:03:37.600 pandemic, if you will. Maybe epidemic is a more appropriate word among young people today. So

00:03:44.600 we're going to start, we're going to start with that. And let me let me read you some excerpts from

00:03:51.480 this article. And then I'll get into some of my commentary about this. So this author first starts

00:03:58.840 out with anecdotal evidence talking about the girls that she spoke with for this article suffering from

00:04:04.580 low self-esteem, feeling like things are out of control, worry about their body image or concerned

00:04:09.780 about passing exams. They told this author that they haven't been able to talk about any of the issues

00:04:16.600 openly. And then she cites this, this study of 15,000 secondary school pupils that was published in

00:04:25.120 February. The mental health focus company, Stare Education and the Social Enterprise Mind Ahead

00:04:30.840 found that girls were more than twice as likely as boys to suffer from mental health problems by the

00:04:36.420 time they were 18. 80% of girls were hiding their distress compared to 60% before the pandemic. The

00:04:43.800 study said the NHS found last year that one in six in England, so this is talking about in the UK,

00:04:50.440 aged five, five years old to 16 years old, identified as having probable, a probable mental health

00:04:57.200 disorder in 2020 up from one in nine in 2017. And then in a study of 40,000 teenagers conducted by

00:05:04.820 Manchester University published this week, 22% of girls reported emotional difficulties compared to

00:05:10.420 7% of boys. Social media and lack of sleep were reported as possible, contributing factors. And then

00:05:18.440 she goes on to talk about some other data that we have that this is a severe uptick in girls not just

00:05:25.820 dealing with insecurity, but even dealing with thoughts of suicide. And this is also backed up

00:05:32.520 by data that we see in the United States and that we've really had to take a hard look at over the

00:05:36.860 past couple years, especially with COVID. And you know, it's really easy for people, especially people

00:05:43.580 outside of the church to attribute these mental health problems in girls to the pandemic, or only to

00:05:49.700 social media or to society. That's the big one. It's society. It's too high expectations on women.

00:05:56.180 It's because women aren't taught to love themselves enough. But you know what? I don't fully believe

00:06:02.640 that. I do think that social media is a huge contributing factor, but I actually think that

00:06:08.680 it's a little deeper than that. And I think that what we see from a large portion, not all, of course,

00:06:14.940 but a large portion of the therapy world, it seems, is focused on simply doubling down on the efforts

00:06:21.560 to combat mental health issues that have not been working now for probably over a decade.

00:06:28.500 So here are some factors that I think, just from my outside amateur perspective, I'm not pretending to

00:06:37.840 be a professional counselor or be a professional psychologist, but I think anyone with just a little

00:06:44.520 common sense and from a little observation can tell you why these mental health numbers have

00:06:51.440 increased so much over the past couple of years. Now, people have always struggled with forms of

00:06:57.760 mental health. And this phrase mental health is fairly new, at least within the mainstream. Sure,

00:07:03.340 it's been around for a long time. I was actually reading a book that was published in the 1960s the

00:07:07.720 other day that had the phrase mental health in it. And I was kind of surprised, but I think it's become

00:07:12.280 more mainstream in the past decade or so. And so people have always struggled with whatever it is,

00:07:20.900 with different kinds of mental instability, whether it's actually some kind of chronic disorder,

00:07:26.540 like chronic depression or chronic anxiety, or, you know, far more severe disabilities and mental

00:07:34.700 disorders or lack of mental health. And then, of course, there has always been some form of insecurity,

00:07:40.440 some form of joylessness, lack of ability to feel like you're in control. I think that is largely part

00:07:47.720 of the human experience. And there are a variety of factors that play into that. For some people,

00:07:52.960 it truly is some kind of chemical imbalance in their brain that is often helped by medication and

00:07:58.840 professional services. I think that that's great. I think those things are a gift of common grace

00:08:03.580 when they are needed and when they are helpful. So I'm certainly not against that. But I also think

00:08:08.660 just natural life kind of plays into a lot of the mental health issues that we have. One of them,

00:08:15.400 of course, is the original sin. One of them is that we live in a fallen world. And so we are never going

00:08:22.640 to have full feelings of joy and satisfaction and fulfillment. So, of course, that plays into everyone's

00:08:30.120 feelings of sadness, whether they are seasonal or whether they are just acute for periods of time.

00:08:36.060 The things that we experience in life, loss, rejection, disappointment, discouragement,

00:08:41.480 all of that is normal. However, I don't think it's normal the level of anxiety and the level of

00:08:49.400 depression that we are seeing from young people today. And in my estimation, there are a few reasons

00:08:54.600 for that. One, absolutely COVID. Now, not COVID itself, not the actual sickness. Although, of

00:09:01.300 course, that can cause some sadness and anxiety if you see people that get seriously sick. Or maybe

00:09:06.360 you had a parent or grandparent as a young person who went in the hospital because they had a severe

00:09:11.220 bout of illness with COVID. Of course, that can cause anxiety. But certainly more than that,

00:09:15.980 there's data to back this up. There, thankfully, have been several studies. Well, not thankfully,

00:09:21.220 but thankfully, the studies exist, but not thankful for the findings. Several studies recently that have

00:09:25.540 come out talking about how the lockdown policies and the shutting down of schools and the virtual

00:09:30.780 learning has negatively impacted young people. Of course, when you're talking about children,

00:09:36.640 as we've talked about many times, you're looking at developmental delays, you're looking at speech

00:09:41.420 delays because of mask wearing and because of missing school and just less in-person interaction that

00:09:47.100 young people typically have. But also, when you're looking at preteens, when you're looking at

00:09:52.840 teenagers, they need normalcy. They need social interaction. They also need to be able to see

00:09:59.540 people's faces in order to read emotions, in order to form the connections. I mean, God made our entire

00:10:05.580 face for a reason. I think that a lot of these girls and kids in general are the victims of American

00:10:14.840 politics, and in this case, maybe British politics, and also adults' paranoia. I mean, we've known from

00:10:20.680 the beginning that COVID was not seriously affecting 99.999% of young people. And yet, they still were

00:10:31.180 subject to the demands of politicians who weren't actually basing their policies on science, like

00:10:37.800 lockdowns and forcing virtual learning, but were just trying to do something. They were just trying to be

00:10:44.380 a good leader. And unfortunately, the standard of good leadership in the time of COVID was just

00:10:51.040 trying to push as many draconian policies as you possibly could, whether or not there was any kind

00:11:00.620 of science or data to back them up. And I think kids were victims of this. Of course, if you take kids

00:11:05.680 out of their routine, if you take away from them all of the things that really matter, even if it was just

00:11:11.080 for a short period of time, but in some states and in some countries, it's been for a very long period

00:11:15.800 of time, you take away athletics, you take away their routine, you take away their friends, you take

00:11:20.480 away homecoming, prom, all of the things that they were looking forward to, and you just say, well,

00:11:25.240 kids are adaptable. That's so cruel. Again, for a disease, for a sickness that wasn't negatively

00:11:30.660 impacting them, for most of them, would have just amounted to a cold. For most of them, the flu would have

00:11:35.660 been far more severe than that. Mono would have been far more severe than that. And we have taken

00:11:41.100 the risk of kids getting those sicknesses every year for all of history. But for this one, we pulled

00:11:47.740 kids out of school. That is what was detrimental to the mental health of young people over the past

00:11:53.040 couple of years. It wasn't COVID. It was the policies pushed by the teachers unions and mostly

00:11:57.840 Democratic and some Republican politicians that pulled them out of their routine. And now a lot of

00:12:03.560 parents fought against that, thank the Lord, Republican and Democrat. But unfortunately,

00:12:08.520 there are a lot of parents, especially in blue areas, who thought that they were being a good

00:12:14.520 little citizen and a virtuous fighter against COVID by restricting their child as much as possible and

00:12:24.120 just relying, again, on this just cruel idea that kids can just adapt no matter what. You don't get

00:12:31.180 your childhood back. These kids understand that you don't get your childhood back. You don't get

00:12:36.260 your adolescence back. You don't get high school back. We don't get to make up for this COVID time

00:12:43.600 on the back end. We did an episode, now I think it was a few months ago, saying we are still,

00:12:50.520 now at this point, we were two years closer to death than we were in March of 2020. Two years closer

00:12:56.520 to death, no matter what. And so there's nothing that we did over the past two years, the data shows

00:13:04.020 is not lockdowns, not virtual learning, not most of the restrictions that were put in place because

00:13:10.580 of COVID that have actually extended people's lives. Instead, people have wasted their lives

00:13:15.860 sitting inside and just hoping that one day we're going to be able to make it all up. We're never

00:13:21.620 going to make it up. So I think that's one factor contributing to why there is such a serious and

00:13:27.600 heightened mental health epidemic in young people. And then, and particularly in young girls, one,

00:13:33.200 I think that they're a little bit more social than boys are. And so they might need even more of that

00:13:38.720 kind of relationship building and interaction that comes with normalcy in school and things like that.

00:13:44.480 But also, I do think girls are more negatively impacted by social media. Look, you go on Instagram,

00:13:51.120 I'm not on TikTok, but I read something the other day, I think I meant to cover it on the show and

00:13:56.220 then I didn't. Or maybe I was, I was, I was listening to it on a, on a podcast, someone that

00:14:02.180 used to work at TikTok anyway. So there is a filter. So there are filters on Instagram. Like if you do

00:14:08.640 Instagram stories, like you can pick a filter and it's kind of amazing to see what it does when you go

00:14:15.180 from looking at your actual face to, to swiping the filters. And look, I think the filters are fun,

00:14:22.320 especially when you're like, Oh, I'm tired. I don't have any makeup on. I don't look great in this

00:14:25.840 lighting. You put the filters on. And like, for me, it's fine. I don't struggle with how I look in

00:14:31.640 general, but you can definitely see how a young woman who might be insecure in other ways, finding

00:14:37.380 herself, comparing herself to her friends or to celebrities online. And you swipe and you look at

00:14:45.280 this filtered picture of yourself and your nose is smaller. Like they make you have like a button

00:14:52.300 nose. Your skin is smoother. Your eyes are a little bit more like fox eyes. You look a little bit tanner.

00:14:58.680 Your lips look a little bit bigger. And it depends on what filter you use. Some are very dramatic and

00:15:03.920 you look very different. Some are less dramatic, but you can imagine if you're a young person in

00:15:10.440 your formative years, especially when your frontal lobe isn't even developed, how this could negatively

00:15:14.600 impact your self-esteem. And then on TikTok is what I hear is that the TikTok camera or what you look

00:15:22.480 like on TikTok, there is a filter. But unlike on Instagram, Instagram actually tells you that you have

00:15:28.940 a filter and it tells the person that's looking at your story that there is a filter on this.

00:15:33.520 And I think that that's actually beneficial. So we know, okay, this person really looks like this

00:15:37.020 or maybe, you know, it's a little different in real life. But on TikTok, it doesn't actually tell

00:15:41.820 you there is a filter. But if you're looking at yourself on TikTok or if you're looking at someone

00:15:45.640 on TikTok, there is kind of a manipulation of the reflection. And so the nose again is smaller.

00:15:52.540 The cheeks are a little bit more chiseled. The eyes are a little bit more upturned. The lips are a

00:15:57.080 little bit plumper. So this is all addictive for young people. And then guess what happens? You love what

00:16:02.360 you look like on TikTok. And then you look in the mirror and it's not the same. Or you take a picture

00:16:06.860 of yourself without a filter and it doesn't look how you do online. And so what does that do? That

00:16:12.860 addicts you, attaches you to social media. So you prefer your virtual life and your virtual self

00:16:19.620 over real life. That cannot be good for someone's self-esteem. That cannot be good for someone's

00:16:25.040 mental health. And I know a lot of people talk about this. Thank the Lord. There are so many,

00:16:31.060 there are a lot of organizations and activists and advocates online that I follow that I see

00:16:36.060 talking about this. I think we should have one on soon, certainly talking about the detriment of social

00:16:41.800 media to kids. But it seems like a lot of the people who talk most about mental health and young

00:16:47.540 people and the importance of mental health aren't pointing back to the dangers that we are seeing

00:16:51.920 on Instagram and TikTok for these young people. Not to mention the widespread predation that we see

00:16:59.140 on these apps for young women. And then I think that there is also a factor here that has been true

00:17:08.920 throughout all human history, but is exacerbated and enabled through social media of narcissism,

00:17:15.880 of focusing on ourselves too much. And look, that is the tendency of all of us. The tendency

00:17:21.260 of all of us is to think about ourselves first and not just to think about ourselves first, but to really

00:17:26.500 think about ourselves exclusively. And when we think about ourselves too much, we actually become

00:17:33.080 burdened with ourselves. We actually become overwhelmed with our thoughts of selfishness.

00:17:44.660 We start obsessing over things like our appearance, our wants, our needs. It creates bitterness in us

00:17:51.260 if we are thinking about ourselves first and foremost, and then other people are treating

00:17:55.940 us the way that we perceive that we need to be treated or deserve to be treated. We are constantly

00:18:02.940 thinking that no one is really measuring up. And you also start to think, well, no one really

00:18:07.720 understands me. I am misunderstood. I'm special. People don't treat me how I want to be treated.

00:18:13.380 That not only creates narcissism and bitterness and resentment that can damage your relationships,

00:18:17.260 relationships, but it also, I think, creates almost an obsessive compulsive nature in you that prevents

00:18:25.280 you from being happy and being content and being satisfied and being a generous and selfless friend

00:18:33.000 to other people. That, of course, is going to negatively impact you. And yet, like, here's my beef

00:18:39.680 with all of this. Here's my big beef, I think, with today's mental health world. Not that it's all

00:18:46.640 bad. Again, I am not demonizing all professional mental health help. You guys know that. I've talked

00:18:53.520 about that. I wrote about that in my book. Number one, and this is kind of an aside. I just want to pose

00:19:01.040 a question. Why is it that so many of the therapists that you see on Instagram, that you see on social

00:19:08.320 media are literally insane? Like, why is that? Like, why did they seem like some of the most

00:19:14.860 narcissistic and self-serving and unstable and, like, mean people out there? And, you know, a lot

00:19:23.480 of them, a lot of them are liberal, first of all. A lot of them are left-wing, and so plenty of them

00:19:31.020 don't like my book, and they tell me so, and they send me, there was some therapist, left-wing

00:19:36.420 therapist who sent me this mean message the other day calling me a POS. I'll just use that. And I'm

00:19:43.160 like, oh, like, this is the mental health professional that is helping other people

00:19:48.260 relate to others in a healthy way and is trying to help other people be stable. And she's not

00:19:55.040 stable because I don't have a single friend who would ever send a message like that to anyone that

00:20:00.420 they disagree with, or especially anyone that they seriously or even anyone that they seriously

00:20:06.180 disagree with. I would never send a message like that. And yet these people, of course, they think

00:20:10.280 they're so loving. They think they're so tolerant. They think they're so knowledgeable about mental

00:20:15.300 health. And some of them are literally, like, the meanest and most unstable and most insecure people

00:20:21.320 that you'll ever meet in your life. I think that's one problem is that actually in the industry,

00:20:27.080 you have a lot of people who become therapists who are really just political activists and are

00:20:31.400 very insecure and unstable themselves. And so maybe a lot of young people aren't getting the help that

00:20:35.900 they need. But another part of this is that it seems like we are simply doubling down on what has

00:20:42.960 not worked. We are continually telling young people that the reason that you're sad, the reason that

00:20:49.840 you're unfulfilled, the reason that you have all of these problems is because you don't love yourself

00:20:55.280 enough. And if you just loved yourself more, if you had more self-confidence, if you had more

00:20:59.700 self-esteem, and you just told yourself every morning how awesome you are, then you'll be able to

00:21:06.520 improve. You'll be able to get out of this rut. If you see yourself as kind of the perfect goddess that

00:21:12.180 you are, and you realize that your family's unfair expectations of you, or society's unfair

00:21:19.020 expectations of you are all the cause of your problems, it's capitalism, it's the patriarchy,

00:21:27.240 it's whatever system is out there that is oppressing you and hurting you, those are all the problems.

00:21:34.060 And if you just be yourself, and if you just love yourself more, then you will be mentally healthy.

00:21:41.360 Well, we have heard that for at least 20 to 30 years, but especially over the past 10 years.

00:21:49.560 Like that has been the prevailing message to young women that your biggest problem is that you don't

00:21:54.100 love yourself enough. And so my question is, how's that working out? How's that working out for us?

00:22:00.380 If that is the message that we have been preaching to young people and to women of all ages, at least for

00:22:07.960 the past decade, if that is the solution that we have been prescribing to the problems of mental

00:22:13.880 health for several years, and we are only seeing the suicide rates and the negative mental health

00:22:21.780 numbers rise, and especially over the past two years, why are we continuing to double down on that

00:22:28.540 solution? It's not working. Maybe one problem is that we are thinking about ourselves too much.

00:22:35.280 Maybe we're telling young people to think about themselves too much. Maybe we are telling them

00:22:42.400 something that makes no logical sense whatsoever, is that the self can be your problem and your

00:22:48.760 solution. And that's the whole premise of my book, is that the self cannot be the problem and the

00:22:54.860 solution. Look, if inside yourself you are finding all of these problems, which we all do, you know,

00:23:00.620 feelings of depression and anxiety, for some people more severe than others, I understand that.

00:23:05.280 Um, you're feeling like you're not enough. You're feeling like you are unsatisfied, that you can

00:23:11.660 never, you know, be fully fulfilled or sufficient. If inside yourself you're feeling all these feelings

00:23:18.400 of inadequacy, you are not going to be able to find a solution to those things also inside yourself.

00:23:24.980 If inside you're finding the problem, you're not going to find the solution in the same place

00:23:29.340 where you are finding your problems. And thankfully, uh, the gospel offers something

00:23:36.740 bigger and better than superficial self-help. The gospel offers you something that is completely

00:23:44.460 counterintuitive and countercultural today, which is self-denial. So rather than self-obsession and

00:23:51.660 self-attention and constantly focusing on how can I love myself more, which is honestly exhausting

00:23:56.480 because you are depending on the very person that you have already realized has serious issues and

00:24:01.140 is fallible to also fix the problems that you have. Well, look, just let go of that. Let go of

00:24:06.960 that. Realize you're not enough. You're not sufficient. You're not enough for yourself. You're not going to

00:24:12.380 be able to find your own solution inside yourself. You're not going to be able to fix this on your own.

00:24:17.600 So just let go of it and bask, revel in the relieving reality that you are never going to be enough and

00:24:26.600 that that is okay. I promise this is not just a push for my book. It's just something that I'm

00:24:31.620 passionate about that I thought about when I was reading this article. It is okay for you to have

00:24:37.340 these feelings for you to be insufficient, but you've got to let go of this struggle to be your best self

00:24:44.880 and to convince yourself that you're perfect the way you are, to convince yourself that you're enough.

00:24:48.920 That's a hamster wheel that you're never going to be able to get off of because you're telling

00:24:52.760 yourself that you're enough how you are, that you're perfect how you are, and yet you are running

00:24:58.560 from one program to the next. It's telling you if you read this book, if you do this, you know,

00:25:03.520 10-step program, if you talk to this person, if you listen to this podcast, if you do whatever it is,

00:25:10.640 then you will finally feel like you're perfect the way you are. Don't you see that that's a paradox?

00:25:14.900 You're simultaneously being told by these people that you're perfect the way you are,

00:25:18.180 but they're also telling you to buy their products so you really feel perfect the way you are.

00:25:21.860 If you were enough, you wouldn't need those things. They know you're not enough. They're

00:25:25.100 just trying to sell you their product. So I'm telling you that you are actually not enough,

00:25:29.900 and that's okay. And you are only going to find your enoughness, your sufficiency, the peace

00:25:34.500 that your restless heart and mind are looking for in the God who created you. Now, I am not saying

00:25:41.500 that, oh, if you just have it, that I'm not saying that you're, all of your mental health

00:25:48.120 issues are because you're not praying enough. I'm not saying that all of a sudden, when you

00:25:51.920 become a Christian, that you're not going to have any mental health problems and that you're never

00:25:55.760 going to feel depressed again, or that you're never going to feel anxious, or that you won't

00:25:58.580 need to see a therapist or that you won't need medication. I'm not saying that at all. I'm not saying

00:26:02.940 that. All I'm saying, all I'm asking is how is the endless and unconditional focus on yourself

00:26:11.020 and loving yourself more working out for you? I'm not telling you to hate yourself. That's

00:26:16.880 self-hatred is another form of self-obsession, actually. And I am not calling for another form

00:26:23.400 of self-obsession. I'm not calling for self-hatred, which is just as unbiblical as self-adoration and

00:26:28.600 self-worship. I am calling for a self-forgetfulness that is only found in Christ. He calls us to deny

00:26:36.780 ourselves, to take up our cross, and to follow Him. And in that is such a wonderful exchange.

00:26:42.600 Christ died for us. He takes on our sin. He takes on our punishment. So we have a relationship with

00:26:48.840 God, but it doesn't end there. I mean, that's amazing. And it could be enough that we're forgiven

00:26:53.840 of our sins and that we get to spend forever in heaven. That could be enough. But not

00:26:58.540 only that, He becomes your shepherd. He becomes your burden bearer. He becomes the person that you

00:27:05.100 get to go to with your problems and with your anxieties and with your issues. And He tells us

00:27:10.420 that He actually cares about those things and that He will bear your burdens for you. Wow,

00:27:15.840 what an amazing exchange. And that's not something that you can work toward. That's not something that

00:27:20.720 you can earn. That's not something that you can be good enough to get. That's something that He gives

00:27:26.840 you by grace through faith. Wow, that's amazing. And again, I'm not saying that that's a quick fix,

00:27:33.680 but hey, it seems to be a far better and a far longer lasting and a far deeper solution

00:27:39.760 to the deep internal problems that we have than this nonsensical idea that if you just think about

00:27:49.480 yourself more and you like your body more and you like, you know, your reflection and your personality

00:27:54.420 anymore, then maybe you'll finally be fulfilled. Again, how is that working out for us? Not well.

00:28:02.560 And this whole idea also is so toxic within this that you can't love other people until you love

00:28:07.640 yourself. Well, look, that's a very privileged way to think. There are people who are hungry,

00:28:13.260 who are lonely, who are needy, who need our love right now, and they can't wait until we are okay with

00:28:19.880 the cellulite we see on our thighs and their reflection. Like, I don't think we need to wait

00:28:25.620 until we are fully confident and love every aspect of ourselves before we go out and love

00:28:30.740 our neighbor. When Jesus tells us to love our neighbor as ourselves, He is not saying that

00:28:36.280 that's not a command to love yourself. Okay, that's not a command to love yourself. He is saying it's a

00:28:41.780 given. We all love ourselves in the sense that not that we like ourselves all the time. There are

00:28:47.740 plenty of times where we don't like ourselves or there are things about us that we don't like,

00:28:51.520 and that's okay. The kind of love He is talking about is not like. It's not admiration. It's not

00:28:57.740 affection. It is the love that seeks someone's best interest. When Jesus says, love your neighbor as

00:29:05.260 yourself, He is saying in the same way that you were born with this inherent drive to take care of

00:29:10.460 yourself, this inherent drive to meet your own needs, to seek your own protection, to satisfy your

00:29:19.360 own thirst and your own hunger, so love other people. C.S. Lewis talks about this in Mere Christianity,

00:29:27.860 that the love that Jesus calls us to is not a love of feelings or emotions or affection. It's not about

00:29:34.520 your self-confidence. It is a natural love. It's an innate love that is in all of us. And I know people

00:29:41.160 say, no, not everyone loves themselves like that. Well, yes, everyone does seek their own best interest.

00:29:47.220 It actually takes effort not to. Even people who tragically, they die by suicide. Yes, they might

00:29:54.320 struggle with feelings of self-loathing and self-hatred, but they are still seeking to relieve themselves

00:29:59.020 of pain. They are doing what they erroneously think is in their best interest. We all have an innate

00:30:04.620 drive to meet our own needs. And Jesus is saying in the same way that you have that innate drive to

00:30:09.760 meet your own needs, meet the needs of other people. And guess what? Meeting the needs of other people,

00:30:15.700 going outside of ourselves and thinking about other people first, thinking about ourselves less,

00:30:22.580 will actually lead us to the joy that we are trying and failing to find inside of ourselves.

00:30:27.500 Self-denial rather than self-obsession is going to give us the joy and the fulfillment that we are

00:30:33.440 trying and failing to find inside of ourselves. So it breaks my heart that so many young women are

00:30:41.060 dealing with all of this today. I think that they are given the wrong solutions. Of course,

00:30:47.160 the solution to all of our problems, no matter who we are, no matter our age group, is always going

00:30:52.260 to be Jesus, of course. But especially when it comes to these young women who I just think are fed so

00:30:59.460 much narcissism and so much self-focus for their problems, I think that they're struggling because

00:31:07.640 of that. And then also, I just thought of this, I think they're also burdened with the weight of the

00:31:12.160 world and the news and politics and the way that we weren't. I didn't think about politics at all when I

00:31:17.840 was in high school. And just for the young people listening, it hasn't always been this way. Like,

00:31:22.420 the world hasn't always been, I mean, it's been dark in different ways, but it hasn't always been

00:31:27.620 this burdensome for young people. And I'm sorry. Like, I'm sorry that you've been failed by so many

00:31:32.740 adults in your life, so many people that have called themselves professionals. And we don't even

00:31:37.580 have time to get into all of the young women who have decided suddenly in their teenage years that

00:31:43.560 because they're insecure in their body and because their friends are doing it and because this community

00:31:47.540 online understands that they're the opposite gender. And you've got psychologists pushing them

00:31:51.440 into therapy and doctors cutting off their healthy breasts. Like, we don't even have time to get into

00:31:56.560 all of that. But unfortunately, like, our girls and their health in so many ways are on the chopping

00:32:02.520 block. This also speaks to the fact that there is an inherent difference between boys and girls. And when

00:32:08.460 we cover that up, when we say that it's just fluid, that those differences don't exist, we actually

00:32:12.820 fail to provide the proper and unique solutions to the girls and boys, men and women in our lives.

00:32:20.060 So it's all messed up. It's all confusing. It's all chaotic. And I think our young people are bearing

00:32:26.900 the brunt of that chaos and confusion. So it's the goal and the role, not just of adults in general

00:32:34.320 and professionals especially, but the church in particular to once again, as I often say,

00:32:40.980 be a refuge, be a refuge for these young people, giving them the friendships, the relationships,

00:32:48.860 the mentorship, but more importantly, like the truth that they need to wade through the chaos and

00:32:55.940 confusion. I think a lot of probably, you know, youth ministries and Christian organizations for

00:33:02.180 young people, they really waffle when it comes to controversial issues like gender and marriage and

00:33:07.160 abortion and all of that because they're afraid of turning young people away. Look, they're just

00:33:11.840 people as have existed for all of human history. And for the past 2000 years, every single person,

00:33:17.880 no matter what stage or culture they're in, have needed the gospel of Jesus Christ and have needed

00:33:22.800 truth. So allow the church, let the church be, work toward the church being a refuge from the chaos

00:33:28.940 and confusion by speaking truth, especially to these young people. All right, I'll just update you on

00:33:34.540 what's going on at Disney real quickly. All right. So those of you who are fans of

00:33:43.540 Disney, which I know is a lot of you, whether you are like an adult fan or whether you are a fan

00:33:51.560 because your kids love it, there's a lot going on here right now. And it's disappointing. It's

00:33:57.400 disappointing, especially for conservative Christians. You'll remember the Parental Rights

00:34:04.520 and Education Bill, HB 1557. That was a bill out of the Florida legislature, which essentially did

00:34:13.000 two things. And you can read the bill. I encourage you to look it up online, HB 1557. It's only seven

00:34:18.660 pages long. It's very easy to understand. Go past the first page, which is really just the summary and

00:34:23.360 actually read the legislation itself. And you'll see that the purpose of the bill is twofold. One,

00:34:30.900 schools are not allowed to keep secrets about a child from a parent, information about that child's

00:34:40.100 well-being and health. So that includes like any questionnaires. We've seen this at public schools

00:34:46.640 across the country. There have been questionnaires given to elementary school students asking for their

00:34:52.600 pronouns, asking what their sexual orientation is, asking what their gender identity is. I mean,

00:34:57.160 the power of suggestion is so strong. It's a manipulation and indoctrination and propaganda

00:35:02.380 tactic that if someone is not thinking about something and you then suggest that thing to them,

00:35:07.660 well, then they are then thinking about it. Then they are considering it. There is absolutely no

00:35:12.780 reason beyond cruelty and predation that you would suggest that kind of confusion and dysphoria to a child.

00:35:18.720 Very, very sad. In a time, again, that we are focusing so much on self-love and accepting

00:35:25.080 yourself, the very same people who seem to be focused most on that are telling kids that they

00:35:30.460 need to hate their bodies. I mean, talk about, like yesterday, at the end of yesterday's episode,

00:35:35.380 talking about tucking, the horrifying aspect of that. I mean, talk about true self-hatred. Read

00:35:40.960 Love Thy Body by Nancy Piercy. The Bible tells us to love our bodies, that our body is a part of us.

00:35:47.380 So anyone that is telling kids, suggesting that kids should hate their bodies and hate how God

00:35:51.940 made them, it's just cruel again and so predatory. So this bill says that teachers, that schools cannot

00:36:00.580 keep secrets about children from their parents. And the bill focuses on kindergartners through

00:36:05.320 third graders. Okay, so that's five-year-olds through nine-year-olds. And then the second part

00:36:09.660 of the bill says that there cannot be formal classroom instruction to just this age group,

00:36:15.340 kindergarten through third graders, five to nine-year-olds, about so-called sexual orientation

00:36:21.460 and so-called gender identity. It's really hard for me to think of an innocuous reason why someone

00:36:29.120 would be against this bill. Truly. It's really hard for me to understand. I mean, that's all the

00:36:34.880 bill does. Again, please read the bill. You can fact check me. If you find something nefarious in

00:36:39.680 there that says, you also can't say the word gay, then please let me know. But in my reading of the

00:36:45.800 bill, I didn't see anything like that. It is just saying, look, parents have a right to educate their

00:36:50.960 child, especially when it comes to this stuff. And it also, I think, highlights the importance of

00:36:58.020 truly informed consent when it comes to these sensitive topics. Now, informal discussions between

00:37:04.220 a teacher and a student. If the student comes to them and says, hey, like, I've got a question about

00:37:08.460 this. The teacher is not prohibited in this bill from having that kind of conversation. It is formal

00:37:14.340 classroom instruction. Also, some people saying, well, you know, what if a child, five to nine-year-old,

00:37:21.440 a child, you know, thinks that they're the opposite gender or, you know, thinks that they might be gay.

00:37:27.660 Again, this is so ridiculous. We're talking about five to nine-year-olds. And they need to go to the

00:37:31.820 teacher because their parents might throw them out. One, I think that that is probably extremely rare.

00:37:37.560 That entire scenario that I just described. But if the teacher thinks that a child might be in

00:37:44.760 danger at home, that they might be neglected or that they might be abused or mistreated in any way,

00:37:50.100 the teacher is actually required by Florida law. She's a mandatory reporter. She has to report that

00:37:56.320 suspicion of abuse to the state. So there really is no argument against this bill beyond just thinking

00:38:04.580 that teachers should be talking about gender switching and LGBTQ issues with five to nine-year-olds.

00:38:12.780 I mean, what other reason is there? And I know there are people who are like, well, it's totally

00:38:17.360 pedophilic and predatory. Now, I don't think everyone who opposes this bill is a pedophile, but you just

00:38:23.280 have to understand that it is predatory behavior to talk to kids of this age group about these kinds of

00:38:30.720 very sensitive. And yes, whether you like it or not, sexual issues. That is the job of the parents.

00:38:36.200 The parents, at the very least, should have fully informed consent. They should be invited

00:38:40.380 to be in the classroom during these discussions. They should be allowed to opt out. And I'm not

00:38:45.280 saying, I mean, in some cases they probably are allowed to opt out. But unfortunately, a lot is

00:38:49.540 happening at these public schools under their radar. That's exactly why you saw the parent reckoning

00:38:53.840 that you did in a state like Virginia. And yet, the employees at Disney, Florida-based company,

00:39:02.260 obviously Disney World is in Orlando, Florida, are very, they're very angry about this.

00:39:09.380 They want Disney as a company to take a stand against this legislation. They wrote an open letter,

00:39:18.300 the, quote, LGBTQIA plus community at Disney, not all of them, but several employees.

00:39:26.720 They have conducted walkouts over the past several days, every 15 minutes, apparently,

00:39:32.240 in the different corporate offices across the country, protesting the lack of action and the lack

00:39:40.000 of forceful public statements from Walt Disney about this particular legislation. The open letter,

00:39:48.300 by this group, says that this legislation is not only having a negative impact on cast members in

00:39:54.520 the state of Florida, but on all members of the LGBTQIA plus. I mean, I'm just out of breath after

00:40:00.640 saying that. Community in the company and beyond. It is. It is. Can you explain how? But no, of course,

00:40:09.040 they don't explain how. They then say that they're coordinating a work break protest, a walkout,

00:40:17.340 a sick out. And then they list all of the politicians that the company must, this is their

00:40:25.520 demand, must no longer donate to because, you know, Disney makes political donations to politicians on

00:40:32.980 both sides of the aisle. So they make a long list of politicians that were apparently part of this

00:40:38.520 parental rights in education bill, what they call the don't say gay bill. And they say you can't

00:40:45.460 donate to them anymore. And then they make this long list of demands. There are six demands that

00:40:50.160 they absolutely must do. They must make substantial contributions to the Trevor Project, to trans life

00:40:57.300 and other human rights advocacy groups in an effort to regain our trust in the company's inclusion and

00:41:02.440 equality efforts. So the reason that they're mad is because Bob Chapek, who is the CEO, in a private

00:41:14.460 email to the company said, yeah, you know, we're against this legislation. We're for our LGBT community.

00:41:20.200 We support you. We understand that this is hurting you. But these employees said that that wasn't enough.

00:41:26.140 You have to make a public statement about this. And you have to be forceful against this and

00:41:30.900 do all of these things. And so they are really pushing Disney to make a public statement

00:41:35.440 about this. And today, apparently, March 22, it's going to all culminate in like a massive

00:41:42.840 protest of several employees, probably thousands of employees at Disney who, you know, they're

00:41:51.080 protesting the legislation and they're also protesting Disney's lack of lack of involvement in the

00:41:59.000 protest. And then you had another open letter that was actually written by conservative

00:42:05.200 Christians in Disney that said, look, we work in an extremely hostile work environment that is

00:42:15.600 extremely hostile to our beliefs. The letter says that they don't believe or they feel like they cannot

00:42:23.140 speak up about their beliefs. They can't organize. They can't voice their opinion to leadership

00:42:27.800 without being called a bigot, without being called names by their fellow employees, whereas

00:42:32.340 any left wing employees and their identity groups can organize on company time using company

00:42:39.540 resources. But Christian conservative, moderate, heterodox employees at Disney feel like they

00:42:44.920 can't do so. And so the open letter, which I can link both of these open letters in the description

00:42:51.020 of this episode, they they're calling for a politically neutral Disney. They're saying, look,

00:42:57.680 we want to be a place of family fun. Can we not just focus on that? We don't we don't want our

00:43:03.260 company to be hyper partisan. We don't want them to be representing values that are so opposed and

00:43:10.140 absolutely hostile to the things that we believe. Can we just not talk about bills? Can we just not

00:43:17.280 be talking about these different, very divisive issues? Because we don't feel welcome here. We don't

00:43:24.620 even feel comfortable enough to do our work. And so you'll see the difference in tone. You'll see the

00:43:29.400 difference in clarity and just persuasiveness in both of these letters. You'll see just the whiny

00:43:36.980 tone in the left wing letter and the entitled tone making all of these demands, just like the mean

00:43:45.800 spirited nature in it. And then you'll see this letter from the Christian conservatives, which I think,

00:43:52.120 of course, it's my bias. But really, objectively, it's hard not to see the difference in just like

00:43:57.960 tone and clarity in these. It's kind. It's convincing. And it's not calling for the Christian

00:44:06.520 conservatives aren't calling for their views to be pushed to the forefront or to dominate Disney

00:44:12.320 or for Disney to support the Florida legislation. Although I think it would be fine if they were

00:44:17.940 pushing for that, I kind of think we need to pull the Overton window back over. But they're really

00:44:22.280 pushing for neutrality. I wrote an article about all of this in World Magazine that is out today.

00:44:28.040 It's titled The Happiest Place on Earth Unless You're a Christian. And I talk about this trend that's

00:44:34.520 been happening at several corporations and in universities across the country where if you are

00:44:39.260 not left wing, you feel that you have to self-censor. You are shamed by this culture of fear that you

00:44:46.360 can't speak up. And we want to push for neutrality. And I understand that. And I would love for us to

00:44:53.100 go back there. I'm not sure that's going to happen because you have to understand the progressive

00:44:57.780 ideology, which is so insidious and is so imperialistic in that it tries to break down

00:45:06.020 and then remake every single entity that it occupies. Progressivism views neutrality as hostility.

00:45:15.000 It doesn't actually make any distinction between neutrality and hostility. And so

00:45:19.380 that's why we see just the ugliness that we do. That's why progressivism, as I said in the episode

00:45:25.280 last week, it destroys. When progressive policy takes over a corporation, when progressive theology

00:45:32.020 takes over a church, when it starts to infect city councils and lawmaking bodies and any institution,

00:45:40.220 ends up destroying it. There's no actual end point or limiting principle of progressivism. It's just

00:45:47.940 continue to break down, break down, break down. We break down norms. We break down what's there.

00:45:52.820 It's the metaphor that you've probably heard if there is a fence in the middle of a field and you

00:46:00.120 don't see why it's there. A conservative perspective would say, well, I don't really know exactly why this

00:46:06.240 fence is here. We probably need to figure that out before we take it down. Progressivism doesn't

00:46:10.200 ask that question. They just tear down the fence because they don't like it's there and little

00:46:14.060 do they know they've released a tiger that they didn't see. I mean, that's what happens and that's

00:46:18.500 what happens in every institution. That's what's happening at Disney right now. They are trying to

00:46:23.660 bend Walt Disney Company to its ideological will. And the leadership apparently, because as I'll say

00:46:30.680 in a second, they're starting to acquiesce to this and they are going to probably meet the demands

00:46:35.300 of these disgruntled progressive employees. They don't care that a large percentage, I believe it's

00:46:42.220 a majority of Floridians actually support this bill, that this bill is actually very popular

00:46:47.140 nationwide, and that even a large percentage of Disney employees support this bill. They actually

00:46:54.400 don't care about that. Some of it probably has to do with the ESG stuff that we've talked about in

00:46:58.520 the past, but they also know that leftists are the bullies. They're the ones who are going to

00:47:04.600 organize and try to take you down and threaten your livelihood and your position and your reputation

00:47:09.520 if you do not bend to their will. And these are the same authoritarians. These are the same

00:47:15.340 Maoist cultural revolution struggle session type people that say that they are on the side of

00:47:23.200 democracy. And this is how they do it. They say that their position is not political, that their

00:47:28.620 position is about human rights. It's always that. And therefore, if you oppose them, you not only

00:47:33.540 oppose human rights, but you oppose their human existence. And so that's why you always see like if

00:47:39.100 you oppose any kind of progressive policy, they'll say it's because you want them to die. It's because

00:47:44.620 you don't want them to exist. So if you don't think the teacher should be, you know, that they

00:47:50.480 should be formally instructing five-year-olds about gender switching. It's because you want

00:47:55.380 trans people to die. It's because you want to murder them. If you don't agree with the lockdowns,

00:47:59.760 it's because you want to kill grandma. You know, this is the pattern. This is what they do. If you

00:48:04.560 oppose them, you oppose human rights and you oppose their existence. And that is why so many people feel

00:48:10.340 shamed into silence. I'm very thankful for the Disney employees that are speaking up. It's anonymous.

00:48:15.460 And, you know, they've put this petition out there, this open letter out there. I'm thankful for that.

00:48:19.960 It's going to take what we have talked about so often, people standing up. And unfortunately, I don't

00:48:25.960 like to say this because I know people have families to feed. They have reputations and they have

00:48:30.080 practical things to think about. And look, you got to pray and you got to use wisdom and discernment

00:48:34.860 when you're picking your battles. But if we want to make any impact at all, people are going to have

00:48:39.560 to stand up and risk their jobs. Unfortunately, I wish that that was not the case, but people are going

00:48:44.660 to have to make those kinds of sacrifices or potential sacrifices to stand up, to take the

00:48:50.660 arrows, allow other people to stand up next to them, to share those arrows, and then to advance

00:48:55.340 for it and push back and just to believe that courage begets courage. And even if that doesn't

00:49:00.340 change cultures, even if that doesn't change companies, even if we can't stop the evil that

00:49:05.800 seems to be coming from every direction by standing up for what's right and sharing the arrows and pushing

00:49:11.060 back, even if things don't change, I still think it's the right thing to do because I believe it's

00:49:15.680 obedience to God. I believe it's obedience to God to stand for that which he says is good and right

00:49:22.460 and true and to be courageous and to be bold and to be loving in that. So obedience is always worth it,

00:49:30.020 even if it doesn't have the outcome that we want here on earth. And again, just to reiterate the

00:49:35.940 things that we often say is that the outcome of something or someone's response to something that

00:49:42.080 you say is not the indicator of whether or not that thing was the right thing to do. It's the

00:49:47.840 right thing to do. It's the right thing to say if it's the biblical thing to do and say. And so we

00:49:53.560 judge our actions and our courage and the things that we say and do by God's standard, God who is

00:49:59.740 love, 1 John 4, 8, not by the world's standards because the world is going to treat Christian

00:50:05.560 action with hostility. And again, it sees neutrality as hostility too. So you might as well just push for

00:50:11.940 the values that you believe in, build the things that you believe in. So we're almost done, but let

00:50:16.740 me read you a statement that was put out today by Disney. It's always so stunning to me. So they put

00:50:24.460 this picture, and we'll put it up on YouTube. They put this picture up with the Mickey Mouse. It's so

00:50:31.300 demonic, guys. It's so evil. And it's got whatever the flag is now, which is so ugly. It's just

00:50:38.020 objectively ugly. It's got the like black, brown. Is that a sexuality or is that just a race? I don't

00:50:44.180 understand. So black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, and then lilac. Has that always

00:50:51.020 been there? Is that something new? I don't know. And then it's just amazing to me, continually amazing

00:50:56.120 to me that we are including the trans flag into this, which is white and then blue at the bottom.

00:51:03.040 I thought that it also had pink on there. So I'm a little confused. But I've also always said that I

00:51:08.220 think it's so weird, so weird that the so-called trans flag is baby colors. Like, come on, guys.

00:51:16.560 So weird. And then you've got kids companies that are just taking this on and that they're like,

00:51:21.240 oh, yeah, it's fine. Like, let's talk about little kids gender switching and tucking and maybe

00:51:26.500 permanently sterilizing themselves through chemical castration and through hormone therapy and through

00:51:32.720 mastectomy and then real castration when they're teenagers. Sure, let's get on board with that.

00:51:38.860 Let's get on board with an industry that is really just politically driven, ideologically driven,

00:51:43.900 money driven, corruption driven, and has no care whatsoever for the actual health of young people.

00:51:49.120 The Walt Disney Company is on board with that. So they post this picture and then they say this

00:51:54.100 to all who come to this happy place. Welcome. Disney Parks Experiences and Products is committed

00:51:58.140 to creating experiences that support family values for every family and will not stand for

00:52:02.140 discrimination in any form. We oppose any legislation that infringes on basic human rights.

00:52:06.060 Did you know it's a basic human right for a teacher to talk to five-year-olds formally

00:52:09.920 about gender switching? Wow, it's a basic human right. Incredible.

00:52:13.960 And stand in solidarity and support our LGBTQIA plus cast crew, guests and fans who make their

00:52:20.460 voices heard today and every day. It's just all so absurd. And so now, like, there's so many things

00:52:28.460 that our kids aren't going to be able to experience innocently. We have to make some, like, big moral,

00:52:34.940 biblical decision about whether or not we're going to go to Disney World. Like, it's just sad. We didn't

00:52:42.100 have to think about that stuff growing up. So young people, again, I just want to reiterate what I said

00:52:46.340 in the beginning. It wasn't always like this. Not everything was anxiety-inducing. Not everything was

00:52:51.000 so political. Not everything was so divisive. I mean, maybe it's good. Like, maybe God is robbing

00:52:57.220 us, you know, us American Christians of our comfort and of our ability to so seamlessly be of this world.

00:53:06.540 I mean, I'm not saying it's not really sad because it is. But, like, maybe God is purposely making us

00:53:13.380 uncomfortable. Maybe He's purposely pushing us to the margins and causing us to really think about things

00:53:20.440 biblically and thoroughly in a way that we just didn't have to think about before. So maybe it's a blessing

00:53:25.640 in that way. Like, maybe this is a part of sanctification. Maybe He's using this to make us holier, to make us

00:53:30.980 thoughtful, and to make us wiser, and to make us long for heaven more. That's what I'm hoping. It's just

00:53:36.540 ridiculous that Disney is doing this. I mean, you'll probably remember in 2018, the then-CEO Bob Iger

00:53:43.680 said that Disney was going to have a tough time doing business in Georgia because of the heartbeat bill,

00:53:49.000 the anti-abortion bill in Georgia at the time. Meanwhile, they were filming and producing

00:53:53.660 a, um, the, the movie Mulan in the province in China where the concentration camps of Uyghur Muslims

00:54:02.880 are. So this is not a moral company. This is not a company that has higher ground. Like, this is not

00:54:09.340 a company that cares about human rights. This is a company that actively profits off the slavery and

00:54:15.220 the oppression of the Chinese Communist Party. And they are saying because teachers aren't allowed

00:54:21.540 in this legislation to talk to five to nine-year-olds about gender switching, that that's

00:54:26.780 against human rights. I mean, it's all a joke. All this woke corporate social justice, virtue signaling

00:54:33.060 by all these corporations, it's a huge joke. It is fake. They don't actually care about human rights.

00:54:38.500 They're not compassionate at all. So you remember what is good and right and true, and got to make

00:54:43.000 some hard decisions about the companies, um, that we support. All right, let me tell you about our last

00:54:47.540 sponsor for the day, and then we will close this thing out. All right, just want to say thank you

00:54:54.600 to all of the newbies here. I know a lot of you are new here, especially on YouTube. Maybe you saw me

00:55:00.440 on the Unashamed podcast with, uh, Phil and Al Robertson the other day. I think there is another

00:55:06.940 YouTube channel, the name is eluding me right now, so sorry about that, that recommended this podcast.

00:55:12.220 And so I'm just, I'm very thankful that you're here, that you're listening, that you're watching,

00:55:15.400 watching. I really appreciate you. If you love this podcast, please leave a five-star review

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00:55:24.740 back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - March 22, 2022

Ep 586 ｜ The Mental Health Experts Are Making Us Feel Worse

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