Ep 590 ｜ Democrats Are Now Openly Pro-Infanticide
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When does someone have a legal right to life after conception? And why does the Bible say so? Is there a difference between pro-life and pro-choice? In this episode of Relatable, Allie talks about the Maryland and Colorado abortion bills, and why you should never vote for a politician who supports them.
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Okay, today we are finally talking about the two pieces of legislation that you guys have
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That is a Maryland bill, and that is a Colorado bill, both pertain to abortion.
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These are Democrat bills that are pushing for abortion, and in some cases, yes, even
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The accusations that you've seen from pro-life organizations of perpetuating infanticide through
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If you've listened to this podcast for any amount of time, you know how passionate I
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am about this subject, how much it just absolutely grieves me, and how I think that if anyone
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with just a modicum of humanity inside of them, with just a bit of softness in their heart,
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really thought about, really knew what abortion entails, what it actually is, that we are actually
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discussing the murder, the intentional killing of innocent, defenseless babies, that you would
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never be able to vote again for a politician that does not stand for actively getting rid
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There would be no justification that you could find in your mind or heart to vote for someone
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who advocates for abortion, or who calls it the right to choose, who calls it reproductive
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justice, who says, well, the state just shouldn't be involved in these kinds of choices between
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Bodily autonomy, all of these ridiculous euphemisms that people use to sanitize what abortion is,
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And what's amazing is that there are professing Christians who do.
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There are actually professing Christians who say, well, let's just not throw the baby out
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with the bathwater, let's just keep voting for these politicians who are actually for
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legalized infanticide, and let's try to comfort ourselves by saying, oh, well, we can be pro-life
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Being pro-life actually means being open borders.
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Being pro-life means, you know, doing things privately, but not actually trying to legally ban
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Well, no, that just tells me you don't actually believe in the right of a child.
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To live because pro-life, the bare minimum of being pro-life is being anti-abortion.
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That's the bare minimum qualification for being able to call yourself pro-life.
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You're not truly anti-abortion unless you believe the bare minimum of that, which is
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that children should have a legal right to not be murdered.
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If you believe that abortion should not be prohibited by law, then you do not believe
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that children inside the womb have a legal right to life.
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And so you have to wrestle with the question, when does someone have a legal right to life
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Why is the standard sometime after conception of someone's personhood and of someone's right
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Unfortunately, the church has imbibed ridiculous propaganda that abortion, if you ban it, that
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women are just going to have coat hanger abortions in the alley.
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And that's not really pro-life and ridiculous assertions that, well, actually abortions go
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down because of Democrat policies, not because of Republican policies.
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We have debunked that correlation causation fallacy on this podcast before I can link it.
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I think we did that a couple of years ago in the lead up to the election.
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There's just so little thoughtfulness on this subject when it comes to Christians and not
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just on the subject, but on subjects in general, I think Christians just find themselves just
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floating on the waves of whatever mainstream narrative is out there, and they allow the
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world to tell them what compassion and what love looks like when they serve the God who
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is love, and he says that life inside the womb matters, and that murder is murder, and
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If we know anything about God, it's that he hates abortion.
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If we know anything at all about what love is, what compassion is, what justice is, what
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defending the vulnerable is, then it is that abortion is wrong, and that the Bible prohibits
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abortion, not just in what it says not to do, thou shalt not murder, but also in what it
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And part of what we see in Psalm 139 is that life inside the womb is made in God's image,
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and that it is an egregious sin, an egregious crime, I think it should be, to kill that
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But when you have a different worldview, when you have the worldview of progressive secularism
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that says that our rights do not come from God, that our rights actually come from the
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government, because the government is the highest authority, and therefore we get to say when
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a person has rights and when they don't, not based on any standard of what they've done,
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not any crime that they have committed, and even criminals have rights, but you do have
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some rights taken away from you when you commit a crime that puts you in jail.
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But the secular progressive worldview says that we get to give and take away rights, the government,
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the state gets to give and take away rights, based on totally arbitrary reasons and arbitrary
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standards, like your age, your stage of development inside the womb.
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And don't you see how that logic leads to all kinds of atrocities against people outside
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Because really, what is so special about the birth canal that it imparts rights to people?
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Why would a baby not have a right a few moments before exiting the birth canal, but does have
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And actually, these pieces of legislation, especially the one in Maryland, proves the logical conclusion,
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to abortion logic, that some people don't have rights, some innocent people don't have
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Based on, I don't know, location, size, stage of development, ability to defend itself.
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And what you see is that any logic that you apply to people inside the womb to say that
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killing them is justified will eventually apply to people outside of the womb, because why not?
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Because, as I said, there's nothing magical about the birth canal that it would impart rights
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And so we are starting to see the logical conclusion of abortion out of the birth canal and into
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So let me tell you about this piece of Maryland legislation, Senate Bill 669, called the Pregnant
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Okay, let me tell you about the Senate Bill 669.
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Yes, the Pregnant Persons Freedom Act of 2022.
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Now, I actually appreciate the honesty here, because we see in federal legislation when it
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comes to abortion that it's women's rights, it's protecting women's health care, which
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is so contradictory to the democratic dogma of today, which not only women can give birth,
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Of course, what they mean by that is some women who identify as men can give birth.
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And of course, we see in scriptures, we've talked about so many times, Genesis 1, there
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There is no category of, well, there is a feeling or thought that you have about who you are gender
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And for those of you who say, well, there's intersex people, yes, it's a very small percentage.
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And just like there are some people born with one leg, and that doesn't negate the fact that
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So intersex people who are people made in the image of God, just like the rest of us,
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do not negate the rule of human existence, which is that we are created male and female.
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So no, it is not possible for men to have babies ever.
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It is only possible for women to give birth.
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So the fact that this Maryland bill is titled the Pregnant Person's Freedom Act, it shouldn't
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surprise us what follows from that, because they're already denying the creation order.
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So that means they're denying that people are made in the image of God.
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If you're denying that people are made in the image of God, as Genesis 127 says, a part
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of being made in the image of God is being made male and female, then of course, you are
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also going to deny the value of life inside the womb.
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And Christians who are kidding themselves into thinking that they can believe that people
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are made in the image of God and also before legalized abortion, I'm sorry to say that
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I am here to wreck that contradictory thought process that you have in your head.
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So let's read a little bit of this bill or read a little bit about this bill.
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So it's summarized as this, for the purpose of altering certain provisions of law relating
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to the termination of a pregnancy, also euphemistic language.
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You'll see that pro-abortion people can never actually say what an abortion is because when
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you are in the immoral position, when you have the wicked position, you actually have
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to use euphemisms in order to make your side palatable.
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You can't use the truth because the truth actually hurts your case.
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That's one of the most liberating and comforting parts about being anti-abortion is that all
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And the vast majority of people say yes, but unfortunately, a large number of people don't
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We've gone through what the abortion procedure entails in every stage of pregnancy many times.
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Again, we can link a past episode on that for you to listen to it.
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It's really difficult to listen to as it should be.
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But the truth is on our side as pro-lifers, as anti-abortion advocates.
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The truth is not on their side, which is why they have to say terminate a pregnancy.
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So, relating to the termination of pregnancy, investigations of or criminal penalties or
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civil liabilities for a pregnant person or a person assisting a pregnant person prohibiting
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a certain provision of law that requires the termination of a pregnancy by a licensed
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physician from being construed to apply to a certain pregnant person generally relating
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Yada, yada, yada, mumbo jumbo, blah, blah, blah.
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That's what happens when you exchange the truth of God for a lie and your mind becomes so
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depraved and so infected by sin that you become stupid.
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Like your mind, your brain becomes mushy oatmeal.
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You're not even able to say words that actually make sense.
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So, the bill reiterates that the current state law deprives all unborn people of rights.
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Nothing in this section shall be construed to confer personhood or any rights on the fetus.
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Pro-life advocates warn that under this bill, a baby who survived an abortion could just
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But then the measure reportedly goes one step further into the perinatal territory.
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So, this is why you are hearing people that, okay, this is not just allowing legal abortion
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Anyone, any of you women who have been pregnant, like, you know what pregnancy is like.
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Like, you who have had premature babies at 22, 23 weeks.
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That's a wiggling, moving, feeling, breathing baby.
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My 11 and a half week appointment the first time I was pregnant, that's still the first
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I looked at the ultrasound and I saw a baby with arms and legs and fingers and toes and
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a beating heart and lungs and a brain and teeth.
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I mean, it was a flipping, little, moving, wiggling baby.
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And so, you're talking about legalizing abortion through 40 weeks.
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If it never happens, then why are we working to legalize it?
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Even according to the Guttmacher Institute, which is a pro-abortion research organization,
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And that is probably an underestimate because several states, most states, don't actually
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have to report that kind of thing, or we can't even rely on that reporting.
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There are very many babies who are aborted after they are viable, after they could live
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All right, so that's why they're pushing for this legislation, because they want that.
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Writing for the National Review, Wesley J. Smith cautioned that such bills would lead
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to allowing lethal injections on newborns left to die.
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So, he mentions how Ralph Northam, the then governor of Virginia, on radio said that a mother
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and her doctor get to have a conversation about if a baby survives an abortion, about what
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So, would you get to neglect the newborn and allow the baby to die, or what gets to happen?
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I mean, that got almost no press in the mainstream media.
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He said that a baby born alive, laying there on the table, that the mother and doctor would
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get to decide whether or not to kill that baby or to neglect the baby to death.
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When I gave a Senate testimony in 2019 about the horrors of abortion, I also read the testimonies
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of people who have worked in abortion clinics, who have worked in hospitals where abortions
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are performed, and how babies, either born alive, some of them struggling to live, they
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died a few minutes after, were put in a janitor closet, left to die.
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And one woman talked about holding a 22-week-old baby who was aborted because he had Down syndrome.
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The baby was alive in her arms after this failed abortion, and she just held this baby
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Yes, if that's just one testimony, I guarantee you this is happening multiple times a year,
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Even if it were happening once, that would be horrific.
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So he goes on to say, the bill would prevent investigations and legal, the bill in Maryland
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would prevent investigations and legal penalties for abortion at any point in the pregnancy
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So that is what Ralph Northam was talking about in Virginia.
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Well, you can look this up in your search engine.
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Perinatal death includes the month after birth.
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That is the technical medical definition of perinatal.
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So an abortionist or anyone involved in this abortion would not be held legally liable for
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any death that happens to a baby surviving an abortion during this perinatal period, 28
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That could mean that legally the doctor and the parents just allow that child to die on
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They don't actually have to try to save that baby's life.
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Republicans have tried to push legislation, even federally saying, I think it was Ben Sasse
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a few years ago, tried to push federal legislation saying that, look, doctors have to try to save
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the life of the baby that survives the abortion.
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All Democrats were against it, including our vice president.
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By the way, you pro all life Christians who voted for them and you think that it's just
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nuanced to be on the side of the party that is literally pro infanticide.
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I'm going to get, I'm going to get into a specific example of that in just one second,
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but we're talking about these Maryland Democrats who are allowing perinatal deaths of babies that
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are caused by failure to act, which extends from the 22nd week of gestation through to the first 28 days
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The section may not be construed to authorize any form of investigation or penalty for a person
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terminating or attempting to terminate the person's own pregnancy or experiencing a miscarriage,
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perinatal death related to a failure to act or stillbirth.
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This means the article says that a baby who survived an abortion can be allowed to die without
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care and no investigation could be pursued nor legal penalty applied, but also effectively
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decriminalizes death by neglect for the first 28 days of life without regard to abortion.
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So this is not even just babies who survive abortion.
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So any babies that die because they were neglected, because they were abandoned, because they were
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starved, because the doctor or whomever failed to intervene to help take care of them.
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It decriminalizes any kind of death by neglect for the first 28 days of a baby's life without
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This has to do with being able to kill a child.
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If no investigation can be conducted, what else can it be called?
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The article says, for example, a baby born with a disability could be allowed to die by
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refusing ordinary methods of care and medical treatment.
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Heck, for that matter, so could any baby the mother does not want in the first 28 days after
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To further ensure that such deaths can take place without consequence, the bill would authorize
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those illegally investigated for causing babies to die by neglect to bring civil lawsuits.
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A person may bring, the bill says, a cause of action for damages if the person was subject
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to unlawful arrest or criminal investigation for a violation of section as a result of experiencing
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The pro-abortion left clearly is slouching toward not only authorizing late-term abortions
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for any reason, but also post-birth deaths of unwanted born babies.
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This is already happening in other parts of the world, by the way.
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And just a reminder, Maryland has safe haven laws.
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So you can bring your unwanted child to your unwanted baby, infant, to a safe haven box.
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There's someone that's on the other side of the window that you put the baby through.
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So if you don't want the baby, there is no excuse to leave the baby to die.
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And plus, even if you're in a state that doesn't have a safe haven law, which I think every state
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should, there are agencies, there are places that you can go.
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You can take the baby somewhere and someone will take care of your baby.
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There are millions of parents who are in line right now who have struggled with infertility,
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who can't have children, or who just want to adopt children that would take your baby.
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And so for Democrats to pretend like they are the pro-all-life party, they're the holistically
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pro-life party, they're the party of compassion, they're the party of the least of these, they're
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the party of the most vulnerable, they're not actually working to help desperate mothers
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They are actually just working to make it easier to kill a child.
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Again, I ask, how could any Christian vote for this party?
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I'm not trying to lionize or certainly not deify, I should say, any political party.
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I'm not saying that Republicans are perfect by any means.
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I rail against the failures of Republicans often, but there is nothing, hear me, nothing
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that the Republican party stands for that is even anywhere near the atrocity of abortion
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They don't see it as something that they privately are against, but they publicly have to make
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No, they see it as something more and more to celebrate.
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I don't think all Democratic voters think that way.
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But I think party leadership, I think the activist class of the Democratic Party, I think they
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are bloodthirsty and they will push the limits on this unless people, namely Democrats, stand
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up and say, no, you're not going to vote for people that advocate for things like that.
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Unless Democrats stand up and say that you are against this legislation too and that you
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This is something, unfortunately, infanticide is something that has been advocated for for
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a while in the bioethics community, if you can call it a community.
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Of course, secular godless academics have advocated for this kind of infanticide for a long
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People like Peter Singer, they don't actually think that you should be able to ascribe personhood
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to someone who doesn't have self-consciousness, who doesn't have their own autonomy and their
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Like that, don't you see how that has been the foundation of every genocide that has ever
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Saying that a group is subhuman, that they don't actually have rights because of whatever
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And because of abortion, we say it's because of location or size or age or politics, whatever
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That's just as arbitrary as saying that you have to kill someone because of their religion
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And people who get mad when this is likened to the Holocaust or likened to slavery, I'm
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You are deciding that one class of human beings is subhuman and that they can be legally
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Again, how can anyone who believes in a just, loving God be okay with the legalization of
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How can we, by the way, be okay with a Supreme Court justice nominee who can't say that she
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And unfortunately, there are some Christians who seem to be okay with that.
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Okay, before we get into Ketanji Brown-Jackson and her just egregious failure to answer when
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a life begins, let me tell you also about this Colorado bill.
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And it's called the Reproduct Health Equity Act.
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And so once again, we've got an act that is named by euphemisms because that's what
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Reproductive health is a euphemism for slaughtering a child.
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Equity is a euphemism for, how do I even explain it?
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Basically, finagling the rules so that every race has equal outcomes, even if that means
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treating people differently, to try to get people to end up in the same place.
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Giving preferential treatment to one group that you view as disadvantaged, that you say
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has been victimized or marginalized in some way, trying to get them a boost up while holding
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everyone else back and saying, oh, this is going to end up at the same place.
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You actually just end up committing partiality, which we know from scripture for Christians
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is a sin, which is a form of injustice, says the God who created justice.
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And that's all written about by Thomas Sowell in the quest for cosmic justice.
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And so I encourage you to read that whenever you see the word equity, that is always a red
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flag that whatever policy is being proposed is not actually equitable.
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Equity is supposed to be the equal application of the law to everyone, regardless of your
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sex, regardless of your religion, regardless of your race.
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But equity in progressive speak, in new speak, is not that.
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It is actually trying to change the rules of the game so everyone ends up in the same place.
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Gosh, which which state was it was it coming from that the school board decided that they
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were going to handle school discipline on students based on race and background?
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And so that means that white students might get punished more harshly than black or brown
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Why again, for the for the sake of equity, because I'm sure they looked at the numbers and they
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said, oh, well, you know, black students seem to be getting in trouble, getting disciplined
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And so that must be because of racism, although it's probably not because of racism.
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And so they are now going to treat this class of people with kid gloves, whereas they will
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continue to treat the white students more harshly.
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You're trying to create equal outcomes and you're trying to meet arbitrary quotas to say
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But actually, you are by real definitions being unequitable.
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So, again, whenever I see Reproductive Health Equity Act, I already know it's going to be
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So it declares that every individual has a fundamental right to use or refuse contraception.
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I'm glad that you have a right to refuse contraception.
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There is the there's the Orwellian news speak again.
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Every pregnant individual has a fundamental right to continue the pregnancy and give birth to
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or have an abortion and a fertilized egg, embryo or fetus does not have independent or derivative
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So once again, they're saying that this is not a real person.
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If it's not a real person, a potential person says who that's a very philosophical and superstitious
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That's not a scientific position because we know scientifically that this is a human being.
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And if a human being is not a human being or if a human being is not a person, when it
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becomes a human being, which is at conception, then when does it become a person and when does
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The bill prohibits state and local public entities from depriving through prosecution,
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punishment or other means an individual of the individual's rights to act or refrain from
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acting during the individual's own pregnancy based on whatever reason.
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So basically, there can be no reason to stop a woman from getting an abortion.
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We'll include the links to the actual text of these bills in the description so you can read
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And so the bill codifies, this is according to the Denver Channel, that will codify full
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access to reproductive health care in Colorado into statute.
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It applies to anyone who may become anyone who may become pregnant, calls people's access
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to contraception a fundamental right and says state and local public entities are prohibited
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from interfering with a person's right to continue a pregnancy, give birth or have an
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The Catholic News Agency, which is obviously coming from the pro-life perspective, says
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that the bill explicitly denies any rights to unborn children.
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It says a fertilized egg, embryo, or fetus does not have independent rights.
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The bill is designed to outlaw government interference in, quote, reproductive health care.
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So it grants the right to abortion, which there is no right to abortion, not in the Constitution,
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not anywhere, for the full 40 weeks of pregnancy for any reason.
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The Colorado Catholic Conference has warned Colorado is already a regional hub for abortion
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So there are already very few restrictions on abortion in Colorado, and this just pushes
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There is no gestational limit currently written to Colorado law, making Colorado one of just
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a few states where abortion is available until birth.
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In 2019, the last year, the data from the CDC was available.
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More than 170 babies were aborted after 21 weeks gestation in Colorado.
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I guarantee, again, that that is an undercount.
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I'm not saying that that life is worth more than the baby that's aborted at six weeks because
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But when you think about just how grotesque, how abhorrent that is, a moving, kicking, feeling,
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squirming baby, and we know the process that is required in killing that child, a needle
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of the same poisonous chemical combination that is used in lethal injections of criminals
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on death row was inserted into the woman's abdomen, into the uterus.
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If the doctor can get straight into the heart of the baby, if the baby is not moving around
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It causes a cardiac arrest, a heart attack, and then the baby dies that way, and then
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the baby is removed using forceps through the birth canal.
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So that is what an abortion entails in the second trimester.
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The baby is actually reported to flinch from the needle, the pain of the needle, to move
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There is an instinctive drive to survive in all of us, including babies inside the womb,
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and this is happening hundreds of times in Colorado every year.
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And so the Democrats in that state are trying to solidify this and ensure that there is
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no prohibition whatsoever in a woman getting an abortion through 40 weeks of pregnancy.
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There was also no waiting period for an abortion in Colorado, no residency requirement.
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Although the state requires minors seeking abortions to inform one parent in writing 48 hours
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prior, parents cannot legally stop their child from getting the abortion.
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Since abortion is not currently restricting Colorado abortion discrimination based on categories
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such as sex, race, or disability can take place.
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So why is this bill such a concern if Colorado already allows abortion up to birth?
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It would ink into law, one of the most permissive abortion laws in the entire country, further
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lending legitimacy and legal protection to the state's late-term abortionists.
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It would also solidify Colorado as a regional abortion hub.
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Because pro-choice Colorado lawmakers believe that federal abortion procedures could be threatened
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in the near future because of the possibility of overturning Roe v. Wade this summer.
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That's why they're trying to ensure that women are able to abort their babies through all nine
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And Biden Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown-Jackson, she was asked multiple times in her Senate
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hearings last week when she believes that life begins.
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So let me play you one of those exchanges between Senator Kennedy and Judge Jackson.
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I have personal religious and otherwise beliefs that have nothing to do with the law in terms
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Do you have a personal belief, though, about when life begins?
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When does equal protection of the laws attach to a human being?
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Well, Senator, I believe that the Supreme Court, actually, I actually don't know the answer
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She already told us when Senator Blackburn asked her, can you define what a woman is?
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And she said, no, I'm not a biologist, as if you need to be a biologist to understand what
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has been easily observable for all of human history.
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But she's already told us, you know, she's not a biologist.
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And so I guess that means that she also can't tell us when life begins, which, of course,
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Both of these things are very easy to answer because they're objective realities rooted
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Now, you could say that, of course, these are political traps of questions.
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So they know that Republican politicians, just like Democrat politicians in these kinds
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of hearings, they know that they're just trying to kind of get her to say controversial things
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I'm not saying that it's not a legitimate line of questioning because it absolutely, totally
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is, including Josh Hawley's line of questioning about why she has issued such light sentences
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It's totally legitimate, but they also know that this is just kind of a way to get people
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She doesn't know why she has consistently issued these light sentences for child predators
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and people who consume and distribute child sex abuse material when Josh Hawley asked her
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And of course, Lindsey Graham asked her the same question.
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Why do you go against federal guidelines and what prosecutors have recommended when it
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We just talked about, obviously, the importance of being able to say what a woman is, because
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that tells us what you believe about who we are, where we come from, where our rights
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Like, if you can't answer those two basic questions, like, if you can't tell us what
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a woman is, then how am I supposed to believe that you can tell us what a woman's right is?
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Like, what are women's rights if you can't even define what a woman is?
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And if you can't tell me when life begins, then when does a human being have rights?
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Like, I don't, shouldn't I want to know from a Supreme Court justice when life begins
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so I can know when she thinks a human being has a right?
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I mean, someone who is supposed to be an expert in the Constitution, which outlines our rights
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in the Bill of Rights, like, shouldn't she be able to say, like, when we get to actually
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But she can't because she doesn't know when life begins.
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And so she says she's not a biologist for these things.
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And some people I saw saying, well, that's good.
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That means that that means that she thinks that gender is rooted in biology.
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And so that's actually a very conservative answer.
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She might actually think that gender is rooted in biology.
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But that is actually a tactic by left-wing gender ideologues a lot.
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There was this exchange, this video exchange between this, like, LGBTQ activist and this feminist
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who is, like, anti-transgender movement, and they were at the swim meet where Leah Thomas
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was swimming, and they are going back and forth.
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And this LGBTQ activist thought that he was trapping her in this question.
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To basically say, hey, if you're not a biologist, then you can't speak to this.
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He doesn't believe that gender is rooted in biology.
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These activists, these left-wing ideologues don't believe that gender is rooted in biology,
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but they continually use that question, are you a biologist, or you don't know anything
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about biology, just to try to say that the common person can't understand the complex
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So I highly doubt she is saying that she thinks that sex is immutable and rooted in biology.
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I think that she is saying what these gender ideologues do, that, well, we can't really know
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unless we have a degree, unless we have special insight, and she probably thinks it's some
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She wouldn't have been nominated if she weren't.
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She wouldn't be touted by all of these left-wing activist groups if she weren't.
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And I'm hoping and praying that she is an impartial judge that exacts justice, but I'm
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I'm concerned about her answers when it comes to life and when it comes to the definition
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of a woman, basic fundamental facts of human existence that I think a Supreme Court justice
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And I am troubled by why she issues such light sentences on child predators.
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I think these are all completely legitimate concerns that we have.
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And then I was just, you know, surprised and a little bit troubled by some of the reactions
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So I want to address a question that a lot of you have asked me or questions that a lot
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of you have asked me about Jackie Hill Perry's tweets and Instagram posts about Ketanji Brown
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Now, these are just screenshots that you have sent me because unfortunately, even though I
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have never had any kind of negative interaction with Jackie Hill Perry, and I like a lot of the
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things that she says she blocked me on all social media.
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I'm guessing just because she doesn't like what I have to say, but I've never had any
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One time I tweeted under one of her tweets asking her to come on the show.
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Now I do disagree with her when it comes to social and racial justice issues.
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I really disagree with her on politics, but I don't think I've ever even outlined those
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And I don't want to take away from a lot of the good stuff that I think that she says.
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I'm sure that she thinks that I'm wrong on some things.
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I think that she is really wrong when it comes to those subjects that I just listed.
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But like I said, I've never had any kind of disrespectful or negative interaction with
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And one day, I don't know, I think I saw that someone said that she tweeted something.
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And so I went to go look and she blocked me on all social media.
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But she apparently was tweeting some things about Ketanji Brown Jackson, and she posted
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some things on her Instagram story that you all sent to me.
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So she, quote, tweeted the exchange between Lindsey Graham and Ketanji Brown Jackson, just
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And Lindsey Graham was asking her about her record in issuing light sentences to child
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predators and consumers and distributors of child sex abuse material.
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I don't really know what Jackie Hill Perry meant by I can't.
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And then she posted a picture of Ketanji Brown Jackson's daughter just looking at her mom and
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You could tell it was a moment of admiration and just saying mood.
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And apparently some people were upset about that from Jackie Hill Perry.
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I mean, those two posts and themselves, that to me, just to be fair, I don't think means
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that Jackie Hill Perry is like defending everything that Ketanji Brown Jackson stands for or that
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she loves her and agrees with her on everything.
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And so I'm not saying that Jackie Hill Perry is saying that.
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However, I think that people's questions are fair, that like, would she pose to this kind
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of seeming support for Amy Coney Barrett or for any kind of judicial nominee who was nominated
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I don't think so based on the kind of activism and activist rhetoric that she has put forward
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Some of you were surprised in her Instagram story.
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She was saying that there were people messaging her kind of disappointed in her posting mood
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or whatever about Ketanji Brown Jackson and her daughter.
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And by the way, it was a cute picture that was taken and posted.
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So whatever, that's the least of my concerns when it comes to Ketanji Brown Jackson.
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But she and then Jackie Hill Perry did an Instagram story saying, you know, most of the people in
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my DMs are white evangelicals and 80% of you voted for Donald Trump, basically.
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And some of you in messaging me, you express surprise that Jackie Hill Perry, that she called
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out the race of the people that were that were messaging her.
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That's the least surprising thing that I've ever heard.
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If you actually pay attention to the things that Jackie Hill Perry says, she talks about
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the problems with white evangelicals a lot and the problems that she thinks that she sees
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She is always she is consistently very quick to talk about race and to draw lines along racial
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to to to draw distinctions among along racial lines.
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She sees hypocrisy apparently in white evangelicals supporting Donald Trump, but criticizing someone
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like Ketanji Brown Jackson, because Donald Trump has done a lot of bad things in the
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And I understand that reasoning because Donald Trump has done a lot of things that Christians
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He has said things that are anti-biblical, that are not in alignment with our values.
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And I think that we should be very honest with that.
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But the evangelicals I know, including me, the reason why I voted for Donald Trump twice
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is because of policy, because I abhor abortion, because I believe that human beings inside the
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womb have the dignity that should be afforded to them by legal rights.
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I could never vote for a politician who thinks that aborting a child is a right.
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And then there are a lot of other reasons when it comes to gender and women's rights, when
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it comes to smaller government, when it comes to economic policy that I think is better
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for every single demographic in every single class in society.
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I mean, that's why I'm a conservative, because I actually believe that conservative policies
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and that the policies that Trump supported, for the most part, I'm sure there are things
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that I disagree with, were better and that would align more with a society that is reflective
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I am talking about recognizing the rights and the dignity of people while also trying
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to protect the sovereignty of your country and the safety of your citizens in a way that
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creates an ordered society that benefits everyone based on the moral minimum that is found
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I can also say that I disagree with a lot of Donald Trump's personal views and the things
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Where I find it difficult to say, well, I'm just going to throw the baby out with the bath
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water when it comes to Ketanji Brown Jackson is because of her positions on apparently on
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abortion and also on crime in general and specifically when it comes to the crime of distributing and
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It's hard for me to see how I can praise any part of her when the decisions that she has
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It has because when you are issuing the lightest sentences possible for this kind of egregious
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crime, what you are doing is incentivizing committing that crime because the consequences
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just aren't hefty enough to disincentivize someone from committing that crime, either committing
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that crime again or someone else committing that crime for the first time.
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And of course, her refusal to accept or to define what a woman is, all of that goes back
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All of this really goes back to the denial of Genesis 1.
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You're denying that people are made in God's image.
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You're denying that being made in God's image means that you are being made male and female.
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Again, I'm not looking for a theocratic nominee, but I am looking for someone who recognizes
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the value of human beings and can define what a human being is.
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And I have a hard time believing that if someone rejects that people are made in God's image and
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therefore have have inherent value, that they will be able to recognize a human right.
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If you can't even define when human life begins, how can you recognize and define what a human
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The denial of reality is always going to lead to the denial of rights.
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That's what we're going to see in Ketanji Brown-Jackson.
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And so I have a hard time, not when I'm looking at her personally, maybe she's a really nice
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I'm sure that she has a lot of good thoughts, too.
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But I think the difference here is that it seems like a lot of Christians who vote Democrat,
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they're mostly looking at personality and personal views, where it seems like the Christians who
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vote Republican are mostly just looking at policy.
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And I can't find it within my heart or mind to support someone who apparently advocates for the
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kinds of policies and decisions that are so deleterious and so destructive for the most
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So that's why I disagree with Jackie Hill Perry's reasoning.
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And plus, I think that she is extremely derisive and derogatory and condescending when she talks
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That's something that she has been doing for several years.
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I am not someone who is trying to say, oh, I'm warning you, stay far away.
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I think that you are wise and discerning and that you can listen to a lot of the wonderful,
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And even though she blocked me, I still believe those things about her.
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And I'm still thankful for her testimony and how the Lord is using her.
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So I'm just saying you can discern the things that she says that you believe are aligned with
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And by the way, you should be doing that with me as well.
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I disagree with how she articulated this and how she kind of doubled down on this.
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I just wanted to clear that up because a lot of people were asking that.
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Let me tell you about our last sponsor for the day.
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And then I want to tell you this very interesting fact that kind of plays into what we're talking
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about with abortion and abortion legislation and just how I think that women and children
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are so mistreated in so many ways in this country.
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Actually, because of a lot of the movements and the ideologies that say that they're defending
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And so I just want to tell you about this interesting factoid that we'll have to expound upon in
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Let me tell you this really interesting factoid that I shared with Alex Clark when we were
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talking about the dark side of the birthing industry.
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Of course, one of the dark sides of maternal care and infant care in the United States has
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But I was also looking into, like, why do we have such bad outcomes when it comes to
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maternal mortality rates and infant mortality rates, at least in the developed world?
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And you would think America with some of the most expensive medical care and the most advanced
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medical technology in the world that we would have the lowest infant and maternal mortality
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And then you also hear a statistic very often that black women are about three times more
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likely to die during birth, during labor and delivery and after birth than white women.
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And that Hispanic and Asian women also, the rate is lower for those groups than it is for
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And what we are continually told is that that is because of racism, that systemic racism in
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And I'm not denying that racism could exist in these situations.
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I have heard enough anecdotes to know that it is anecdotes to know that it's certainly possible
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I believe people's stories when they say that they experience some form of racial discrimination
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But as with most left wing narratives, I think that it is worth taking a second look at
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you know, what's what's going on here or is there more to the story?
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And of course, according to the CDC, there are a few things that they say play into any
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maternal death, and that is high blood pressure and that is heart problems.
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And that is more likely among African-American women, which is probably one of the reasons why
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And then also they have disproportionate poverty rates.
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I think poverty is a driver of a lot of the problems and the disparities that we see in
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But then one thing I found when I was just I wasn't even really looking for this, but I
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read in an article in Deseret News that actually the number one cause of maternal mortality,
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and this is not in the CDC figures, but this is in addition to the CDC figures, the number
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one cause of maternal mortality in the United States has nothing to do with medical malpractice
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or neglect or anything that happens inside a hospital.
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And the vast majority of homicides are committed by the domestic partners of these pregnant women.
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And then if you dig a little bit further, you see that the number one victim in this group
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of pregnant women or postpartum women, so a year after they give birth, is black women.
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So black women, a higher number of women in general, of pregnant women and postpartum women
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in general are dying by homicide than are dying by any other cause of death for pregnant and
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But that is in particular true of black women.
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It is the most likely reason for a black woman to die in pregnancy or postpartum is homicide
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far more than their white, their Hispanic, or their Asian counterparts, and it's usually
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Because the people who like to only peddle one part of the story, one statistic that
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they think can back up their claim, really, it's about goals for them.
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They want to take over, progressives always want to take over a particular institution and
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And if they can misuse or use a statistic and just conclude that the reason for that statistic
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is because of racism or because of discrimination, then they can use that as the justification
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to try to change the health care system in general to make it more, quote, equitable.
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And we've already talked about the problems with that.
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But if they really cared about women, and in particular, black women, if they really cared
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about the maternal mortality rate among black women, then we would be talking about the number
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one killer of black pregnant women, which is homicide.
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We'd be talking about that a lot more, wouldn't we?
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Because just like with Black Lives Matter, who only talk about one kind of death, the
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The goal is progressivism, communism, institutional capture.
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It's not actually to help the victims and the most vulnerable.
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Again, if we were, we would be talking about the homicides, which is one of the most likely
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killers of black males, and we would be talking about the homicide, which is the most likely
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That's a tough pill to swallow when you are told that every disparity that exists is only
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Every injustice that is endured by non-white people in the United States is because of white
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Well, I mean, there's a million different stories that we could list that disprove that.
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But especially when it comes to caring for women, which I care about, I don't want these
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Shouldn't we be digging a little bit further into that if we actually care about women and
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But I think we have, we've already noted today how the Democratic Party, and I'm sure the
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Republican Party in a lot of ways too, but the Democratic Party, the people who say that
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they are on the front lines for women, that they care about the most vulnerable, that
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they are actually the ones who are quickest to sacrifice children on the altar of their
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progressive policies and ignore the true threats to women if it doesn't advance their agenda.
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We'll have to talk more about all of that on another episode and expound upon it.
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But I just wanted to share that with you because I thought it was interesting.
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That's all we've got time for today, and I will see you back here tomorrow.