Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 06, 2022


Ep 595 ｜ Disney & the Dark History of Gender Grooming


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Disney is fighting Florida's new law banning sexual orientation and gender identity instruction in public schools. What does it have to do with religion? And why is it so hard for Christians to stand up for their kids in this culture war?

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. This episode, as all episodes, is brought to you
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00:00:23.160 Okay, we've got a big episode today. I have a lot to say. Even more than usual,
00:00:29.100 I know that you guys are going to like this episode. When I'm preparing for particular
00:00:32.800 episodes, I can just tell, okay, this is one that people are going to like and share a lot. And I
00:00:37.840 hope that's true. I hope this is one that you do share and you talk about with your friends because
00:00:42.460 I'm going to say some things, of course, that are controversial to the mainstream, but that I hope
00:00:47.400 are also a little thought-provoking and that cause you to have good discussions with your friends
00:00:51.440 and family. That is always my hope for Relatable, but especially when we talk about the things
00:00:55.860 like the ones we are talking about today. We are going to peel back the layers on this whole
00:01:01.120 Disney fiasco, Florida bill fiasco in a unique way because I know that you've heard a lot of
00:01:07.720 people talking about it. We've already talked about it on this show, but I hope to give you a unique
00:01:12.980 perspective and analysis, of course, from a Christian perspective, but just talk about some things that
00:01:18.300 I think haven't been fully said and analyzed quite yet. We're going to debunk some of the new
00:01:23.700 propaganda that you're hearing about Disney's battle in Florida and unveil why the company is
00:01:30.300 acting the way it is, or at least from my perspective. And what I mean by that is why
00:01:35.660 they are so viciously opposing the Florida parental rights law, why they are so committed to introducing
00:01:41.180 quote, queer content to our children, which they've been very outspoken about when a huge percentage of
00:01:47.180 their customers don't want that kind of programming. And a huge percentage of customers actually support
00:01:52.680 Florida's bill. And I'll just read some statistics on that from the Daily Wire. They conducted a poll
00:01:58.400 of people from all political backgrounds, and they found that more than six in 10 Americans support the
00:02:03.960 Florida bill's ban on classroom instructions on sexual orientation and gender identity in grades K
00:02:09.720 through third, and agree that this kind of curriculum would need to be presented in a way that is age
00:02:16.880 appropriate. 21% said they oppose the bill. The Florida measure is backed by 69% of Republicans, 62% of
00:02:25.400 Democrats, 57% of independents, and 68% of parents support the Florida bill's classroom instruction
00:02:33.480 regulations. They just actually had to be presented with the text of the bill, this HB 1557 that we have
00:02:43.520 discussed in the past. Rather than just being presented by MSNBC propaganda or have that presented
00:02:50.660 to them, they just needed to read the text of the bill. And when people saw the truth of what the bill
00:02:55.320 is, they actually tended to support it. So the question that I have is why doesn't Disney care about
00:03:01.280 that? Why does it seem like they are beholden to a small group of radical activists? Why don't other
00:03:06.620 corporations care about alienating at least half of their customer base when they support radical
00:03:11.500 organizations and policies and culture war issues that we, millions of us, do not align with? Now,
00:03:17.740 we've talked about some of this stuff in the past. Those of you who have been listening for a while
00:03:21.300 have listened to Great Reset episodes. You might know a little bit of where I'm going in this direction,
00:03:26.420 but some of what we talk about I think is still going to surprise you, faithful listeners. And as I
00:03:31.600 said, we will also talk about as Christians, as Christian moms, how do we approach this? Do we boycott
00:03:36.960 Disney? Does that mean we have to boycott every single entity that stands for things that we don't
00:03:41.680 like? What is the godly response to all of this madness? So I'm going to give you my perspective
00:03:46.860 on all of that. But first, let me let me back up. Let me give you some context about why we are even
00:03:52.460 talking about Disney in case you didn't know. And I can link some past episodes on it, but I'll just
00:03:57.520 give you a quick rundown. So Florida passed a bill called HB 1557, the parental rights and education
00:04:03.560 bill, which prohibits schools from keeping secrets about a child and their well-being from their
00:04:08.700 parents, including, for example, if the teacher if the child tells a teacher that he wants to be the
00:04:14.940 opposite sex, the school cannot keep that a secret from parents. Also, there can be no formal classroom 1.00
00:04:21.800 discussions about gender identity and sexual orientation in kindergarten through third grade.
00:04:28.580 So that's five to nine year olds. Now, in my opinion, that doesn't go far enough, but it is what
00:04:34.740 it is. That's what the bill now the law is. So Disney got into hot water. I think it was the beginning
00:04:40.540 of March with this with its own employees when the CEO, Bob Chapek, refused to publicly condemn the
00:04:47.600 bill. He kind of said, oh, you know, I support our LGBTQ employees, but I don't want to weigh in on this
00:04:53.920 publicly. It's not going to make that much of a difference. Well, that wasn't good enough. It's never good
00:04:58.240 enough for progressivism because they progressives lose sleep at night thinking that there is a random
00:05:05.440 person out there who might disagree with them and might not feel as adamantly about the issues
00:05:10.940 that they care about as they do. And so, as I've said before, progressivism, they talk about being
00:05:17.480 anti-American imperialism. They are actually very progressive. Progressivism is very imperialistic in
00:05:23.580 that it seeks to take over institutions and make institutions into their image, conform institutions
00:05:30.340 to their goals and their agenda. Progressivism is insanely imperialistic and very controlling
00:05:36.720 in its actions. And that's what we saw with Disney. So after the backlash from these progressive
00:05:42.200 employees and outside activist groups and the company's stakeholders, Disney publicly denounced the
00:05:47.740 bill in so many words and announced investment, financial investment into LGBTQ plus plus plus
00:05:54.740 organizations and projects and projects and renewed their commitment to LGBTQ content for children.
00:06:02.940 Critics called the HB 1557 the don't say gay bill. There's all kinds of propaganda about the bill
00:06:10.620 pushed by the mainstream media. First of all, as we've noted many times, as many people have noted many
00:06:16.640 times, the bill, the law doesn't have the word gay in it. There's no prohibition of informal speech.
00:06:22.520 Teachers can have personal conversations with students about these things if they want.
00:06:27.200 Although I think that's weird, but they can. They're allowed to. Teachers could talk about their
00:06:31.940 personal lives, which again, you don't really need to do that in a way that would bring up sexual
00:06:37.780 orientation and gender identity with young children anyway. And this is another thing that you'll hear
00:06:44.180 people say, oh, this is going to, this is going to exacerbate or enable abuse of children who are
00:06:50.960 uncomfortable going home and telling their parents about their feelings or whatever. But that is just
00:06:56.920 bunk because if teachers think that a child may be facing abuse at home because of their so-called
00:07:03.740 identity or for any other reason, they are already required by Florida law to report that. That's a
00:07:09.800 mandatory reporting law. So knowing all of these things, it is just hard. And I've said this many
00:07:16.020 times. It's hard to see any truthful, justified opposition to this bill. I haven't heard it yet.
00:07:23.800 Teachers and schools should not be keeping secrets about a child from the parent. That is like anti-child
00:07:30.860 abuse training 101. An adult who tells a child to keep a little secret between them from the child's
00:07:37.360 parent, especially in regards to gender or sexuality. And again, we're talking about five
00:07:41.920 to nine year olds in this bill has crossed the line into, I know this word is being overused a lot
00:07:48.640 recently, but that has crossed the line into grooming. They have. Now I'm not saying that every teacher who
00:07:54.760 does this is a pedophile, but that is, we have to just understand it for what it is. That is predatory
00:08:00.840 behavior. And again, if the teacher actually suspects abuse to the point to where they, she, you know,
00:08:06.700 she doesn't feel comfortable telling the parent something that a child told her because of that
00:08:11.440 fear, then the teacher needs to go to the authorities about that. So in no, in no scenario should she or
00:08:18.020 he be keeping secrets with the student about their gender or sexual feelings. I mean, obviously this was
00:08:24.060 obvious about five seconds ago until activists told us that trying to prohibit these conversations
00:08:30.520 is bigoted. I know some people are offended by the use of the word grooming when we talk about what
00:08:38.620 this bill is preventing. And I do agree. It's not a word that we should throw out nonchalantly. I don't
00:08:45.340 think that we should be calling everyone with whom we disagree a groomer or even saying that anyone who
00:08:51.740 opposes this bill is a groomer. I think we need to be very clear and very specific on what we mean.
00:08:57.020 However, I will say is I tweeted in a satirical, sarcastic thread this morning that if we were to
00:09:06.560 take the language and the logic of the left, when it comes to social, racial justice, anti-racist
00:09:14.500 ideology, then we would just be doubling down and saying, well, it's not enough to be not a groomer.
00:09:20.920 One has to be actively anti-grooming. And if you are defending yourself against being a groomer,
00:09:28.220 then maybe that's just groomer fragility speaking. And we really need to dismantle the systems,
00:09:35.260 the invisible systems of groomer supremacy that is so pervasive in our society. Maybe we should set up
00:09:43.100 an unelected government body of bureaucrats and activists, maybe the anti-grooming task force that
00:09:51.580 goes around to different entities and decides whether they're sufficiently anti-grooming. And hey,
00:09:57.320 don't make those of us doing the work of anti-grooming educate you. That's too much mental,
00:10:03.260 intellectual, and emotional labor. But also you need to get educated because if you know better,
00:10:09.120 you can do better. So go to Libs of TikToker, go to Chris Rufo. There are plenty of resources for you
00:10:14.860 to understand just how pervasive the problem of systemic grooming is. Oh, and by the way,
00:10:20.380 if your pastor is not preaching anti-grooming sermons, it's because they are on the wrong
00:10:25.160 side of history. So if we were the left, we would be using all of those logical fallacies to simply
00:10:33.180 double down on those accusations to basically say, if you disagree with us on any of this, it's because
00:10:38.920 you're a predator. That's what they do with racism. So hopefully that lets you see that the whole
00:10:43.920 anti-racist, white fragility, Ibram X. Kennedy, Nicole Hannah-Jones logic, reasoning, argumentation
00:10:51.140 that they and their ilk use is so damaging. It is so dishonest. It is so deceitful. And it's so stupid.
00:11:00.260 I mean, when it's flipped, when the script is flipped, when the tables have turned, people tend
00:11:08.400 to see on the left and the right how silly it is to make accusations like that. But we are not that
00:11:14.500 because I don't want to employ the use of logical fallacies. And so I don't want to use grooming in
00:11:20.280 a way that is not actually accurate because child grooming is something that is actually serious. It is
00:11:25.280 something that actually happens. But I do think that when we use the term grooming to describe
00:11:32.320 an adult, a teacher talking to young children without the consent and the presence of their
00:11:38.260 parents about things like gender identity and sexuality and sexual feelings, that is a form of
00:11:43.920 grooming. It is. And so I don't use that term. I don't use that word in a way that I don't really
00:11:51.680 mean, that in a way that is not purposeful. I do believe in defining our terms and being
00:11:55.720 purposeful about our language. I'm being purposeful about that. The fact of the matter is suggesting
00:12:01.660 to young children that they can switch their gender, which they can't, or talking to them about
00:12:06.200 sexual identity and attraction is grooming behavior. I have no doubt that many of the teachers doing
00:12:14.140 this, they think it's acceptable behavior because they've been taught that they might not have
00:12:18.980 predatory motivations. They're just ideologues. They've been convinced that this is what empathy
00:12:23.780 looks like. We talked about the danger of that on Monday. But even if this is not done with sexual
00:12:28.500 intent, it is still damaging. We'll talk a little bit more about that in just one second. Let me pause.
00:12:36.260 All of this is still priming a child's mind for confusion and identity crisis and potentially setting
00:12:43.800 them up for a life of hating their body and how God made them of sterilization through hormone blockers 0.78
00:12:49.180 and genital mutilation. Grooming them for that is, it's obviously wrong and it's predatory and we have
00:12:55.360 to call it what it is. The power of suggestion is so strong. It's strong for all of us, but especially
00:13:02.980 with children who are taught to and who naturally trust the adults in their lives. And when you think
00:13:08.080 about the predatory power of suggestion, I mean, suggestion can be a good thing in the sense that
00:13:14.280 like if you've ever been insecure about something or you didn't know that you have like a talent or
00:13:18.840 ability and someone suggests to you that you're actually good to it or good at it, that can change
00:13:24.060 how you see yourself or how you see your ability to do that thing. It can also be negative if someone
00:13:29.120 has ever told you that you look sick or tired. Even if you don't, you start feeling sick or tired.
00:13:33.820 So the negative, sinful power of suggestion really goes all the way back to the garden. That's all
00:13:41.720 Satan did. He twisted the truth and he said, did God really say? And let me suggest to you that the
00:13:47.100 power that you can get from eating this fruit that God has forbidden is this incredible power that will
00:13:53.740 make you equal to God. And man, there's so many facets of that that we could explore that Satan is
00:13:59.720 still perpetuating today. But the power of suggestion going all the way back to the first
00:14:06.300 end to the garden of Eden has potentially destructive power because human beings are both a product of
00:14:13.040 nature and nurture. So a lot of who we are is built in. We are born with it. But a big part of who we are
00:14:18.720 is shaped by our parents, by our teachers, education, our friends, our experiences, and the things that are
00:14:25.280 told to us and said about us. So some people are born with gender dysphoria. It's not a product of
00:14:33.320 suggestion in their lives. It's a mental disorder. According to the DSM-5, it's marked by consistent,
00:14:38.740 persistent, and insistent communication by a young child that they are in the wrong body. It's marked
00:14:44.000 by a lot of distress. And wow, we should have so much compassion for that. But it is not just a boy
00:14:50.340 liking ballet. It's not just a girl liking Tonka trucks. It's not a kid being different. It's not,
00:14:57.940 hey, I'm a girl who is insecure about my figure and someone on Reddit told me I may be the opposite
00:15:02.060 sex, so I decided I'm trans. That's not what gender dysphoria is. And yet when children who may be a bit
00:15:10.260 different, who maybe are a bit different, but are unsure about themselves, as all of us are at one
00:15:16.340 point when they are suggested that they're different, their uniqueness may mean that they
00:15:21.660 are the opposite sex, that they're in the wrong body, that they were so-called assigned the wrong 0.94
00:15:26.540 gender at birth, or that none of us actually know what we are until we decide one day when we're five
00:15:32.360 years old, of course a child is going to think about that. They might even be tormented about that
00:15:36.740 because, whoa, that's a huge responsibility to try to decide your identity. And if you see that being
00:15:43.020 the opposite sex as a child is met with celebration and attention and affirmation, of course that is 0.99
00:15:48.720 going to be intriguing. And that brings me to another point that I'm seeing in all of this.
00:15:54.740 Because you see this being said, well, if Florida is banning discussion of gender identity and sexual
00:16:00.220 orientation, then you can't talk about being cisgender or straight either. That's the new, gotcha, I saw that
00:16:06.120 on Instagram circulating on an account that just consistently posts propaganda misinformation about
00:16:12.740 everything conservative or Christian. So first of all, and this is going to be, this is going to be
00:16:19.580 scandalous, not this part, but the next part that I'm about to get into. First of all, I agree. I don't
00:16:24.820 want any form of sexuality or gender ideology discussed in the classroom, especially kindergarten
00:16:29.640 through third grade, especially without the consent or presence of the parents. But to the people who
00:16:36.280 say, okay, then there can't be any books that show anything heterosexual or that show heterosexual
00:16:42.160 couples like a prince kissing a princess. Look, I get the point. I understand the gotcha. I understand
00:16:48.660 the logic that you are trying to employ. But are you ready for this? Heterosexual is not a sexual
00:16:54.800 orientation. Cisgender is not gender identity. I know that's controversial. Heterosexual is just what 1.00
00:17:02.980 human beings necessarily are in the sense that we are sexually dimorphic beings. Like most other
00:17:09.160 creatures on earth, it is the reason why anyone on earth today or throughout history exists or has
00:17:13.820 existed. Men and women rely on each other's reproductive systems to perpetuate our species. 0.99
00:17:19.840 That's not an orientation. It is the natural and necessary form and function of a
00:17:24.800 human being. People have feelings of attraction to the same sex. Yes, I'm not saying that that
00:17:29.580 doesn't exist, of course, but those are feelings of attraction. For the Christian, we know that there
00:17:35.080 is no biblical, but also there's really no scientific category of orientation. Feelings in orientation
00:17:42.640 are two different things. I mean, that's kind of just worldly speak about sexual identity that
00:17:50.740 Christians should kind of take a step back from and question. There is also no biblical or scientific 1.00
00:17:57.120 category of gender identity that is separate from sex, as we've talked about many times.
00:18:02.580 In Genesis 127, God made us in his image. He made us male and female in his image. That's it. Yes,
00:18:10.200 intersex people exist. And I hate that they are lumped in with the whole transgender movement because
00:18:15.280 it's not the same thing. Intersex people have a very rare disorder that does not negate the rule 1.00
00:18:24.160 of sexual dimorphism in the same way that people born with only one leg don't negate the fact that
00:18:31.340 humans are bipeds. The exception does not write or rewrite the rule. Our bodies tell us who we are.
00:18:38.900 They are not subject to our thoughts or feelings or declarations. There's no such thing as cisgender.
00:18:47.160 There is male, there is female, and then there is confusion. This all goes back to the telos or the
00:18:54.940 purpose of our bodies, as we have talked about. Teleology is the knowledge or study of purpose.
00:19:01.220 Organisms have a telos. Every organism does. So a bird's body has a purpose. It has a function.
00:19:07.520 A bird cannot be a fish. If you throw a parrot into the water, it's not going to be able to swim.
00:19:12.760 Its body doesn't have that purpose. It doesn't have that ability. A leaf has a purpose and a
00:19:17.120 function. It cannot be an ice cube. It doesn't function the same way. So form determines function,
00:19:23.720 including for human beings. Our form is male and female, with parts that go together to keep our
00:19:29.300 species going. That is a fundamental fact of our existence. So yes, it is different for children
00:19:38.840 to learn an age-appropriate form of that versus some kind of radical progressive ideology about
00:19:44.580 sexuality and gender that contradicts this fact, that contradicts our biological telos. We just need 0.99
00:19:50.560 to own that fact that yes, while we don't want any kind of sex ed of any kind at this age or any age
00:19:56.640 without parents' consent, we are okay with girls and boys seeing a mommy and daddy together in a book.
00:20:02.200 We are okay with kids learning that there are only two genders. Like, let's not pretend as Christians 1.00
00:20:07.120 and conservatives that that's not what we're saying. Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I think,
00:20:12.420 I mean, for me, for a lot of people, we're not saying that we want complete neutrality where we
00:20:17.320 just pretend like people are blobs and that procreation does not exist. No, like, we want
00:20:25.280 our kids to learn about the natural family. That doesn't mean demonizing anyone. Kids who have two
00:20:31.060 moms or two dads should not be alienated. They shouldn't be condescended in any way. Their parents
00:20:36.340 also shouldn't be treated unkindly. But yeah, we want them to see mom-dad kids. We want them to learn
00:20:43.340 in the most basic elementary way that our bodies are good. That being a boy is great and you can
00:20:49.480 like what you like. Being a girl is great. You can like what you like. We have differences and
00:20:53.960 these differences are good. So let's not pretend that we want to ban all books that talk about
00:21:00.160 boys or girls or mommies and daddies together. We don't want progressive sexual and gender ideology
00:21:05.800 taught, especially to young children, especially without the informed consent of the parents.
00:21:10.380 Look, the left isn't pushing for neutrality. They're not interested in neutrality. They are
00:21:16.400 interested in imperialism. They are interested in control. There's really no such thing as neutrality.
00:21:22.980 As C.S. Lewis says, every single inch, every single square inch of the universe is claimed by God or
00:21:29.040 counterclaimed by Satan. There's no neutrality. And so the left is consistently and insistently pushing
00:21:36.320 for what they want, the ideology that they want. They're not interested in neutrality.
00:21:41.560 Why shouldn't we as Christians say, okay, that's what you secular progressives think is good and
00:21:45.980 right and true. Here's what we believe. No, to be good and right and true. We actually think this is
00:21:51.060 better for society. This is healthier for young kids to recognize the existence of male and female
00:21:56.000 and be okay with being a boy or a girl. Like, let's not pretend, oh, we just want to live in a world
00:22:03.240 where, I don't know, no one acknowledges the existence of male and female. Like, that's not
00:22:07.940 even possible. So let's just be honest about what we think is good and right and true. I don't even
00:22:13.260 think, here's another big thing here. I don't even think we have begun to scratch the surface of the
00:22:22.840 corruption and the perversion that is in the public school to gender clinic pipeline. You hear a lot
00:22:30.340 about the, what is it, like, high school to prison pipeline. There are different pipelines that a lot
00:22:37.520 of times more social justice activists talk about. Look, I don't think we even understand what exists in
00:22:44.860 the public school and maybe private school too, but any kind of education where the parents are kind
00:22:50.200 of disengaged and they're just going along to get along. The education to gender clinic pipeline
00:22:54.660 that suggests that power of suggestion, confusion to kids, pushes them into the arms of ideological
00:23:01.260 psychologists and doctors who question nothing. And because they want to get paid and they fear
00:23:08.480 backlash from activists, they prescribe the hormone blockers. They do the surgery. They encourage the
00:23:13.960 social transition. And parents are told, if you don't go along, your child will kill themselves.
00:23:19.960 That's what they're told. They're not told that their child is likely to kill themselves anyway,
00:23:23.620 even after surgery, because people who call themselves transgender have a higher likelihood,
00:23:27.380 sadly, of suicide, no matter what, even in much more progressive countries than our own,
00:23:31.340 like Sweden. This is the destruction that is encouraged when young children are given the 1.00
00:23:35.780 suggestion that the body they were born in was wrong. It's too much responsibility to give a child
00:23:40.820 to try to pick a new identity. It's damaging physically, psychologically. In an age of self-love,
00:23:47.020 we're encouraging kids to reject and hate their bodies and deny that the body God gave them is both
00:23:53.620 good and an indicator of who they are. That's really troubling to me. That's really troubling to me.
00:24:01.340 I want to read you some of this thread by this organization called Women's Voices. And they are a
00:24:12.100 pro-woman feminist organization that I'm sure I disagree with on a lot. I'm guessing they are probably 0.98
00:24:19.400 pro-choice. They probably consider themselves progressive in a lot of ways. And they don't consider
00:24:25.720 themselves anti-transgender, but they are pro-sex differences and pro-sex separate spaces for the
00:24:34.460 safety and for the rights of women. And they have uncovered a lot about the roots of the transgender
00:24:40.780 movement and transgender ideology. We have talked about on this podcast, I think it was in the episode
00:24:45.780 called Biblical Telos of Gender, which we can link again in the description of today's episode
00:24:51.180 of John Money, who was a doctor in the 1960s who experimented on two young boys. One of the boys had
00:24:59.180 a botched circumcision and Dr. Money convinced his parents to let him undergo a surgery and put him
00:25:05.380 on hormones to make him into a girl. Well, the little boy who grew up, David Reimer, I believe is his name,
00:25:11.200 he realized he just knew that he was in the wrong body. He knew that he was actually a boy. He didn't
00:25:17.760 like that he had had breasts that had developed because his parents had given him estrogen. And
00:25:24.620 so his parents told him the truth. I think it was when he was a teenager, maybe a young man, he
00:25:29.700 transitioned back into being who he really was. And that's not all of it. When he was younger,
00:25:38.680 Dr. Money performed experiments on him and his twin brother, sexual experiments made them engage
00:25:46.480 in sexual touching his children while he and other doctors watched and took notes. That is the person
00:25:52.940 who first came up with this concept of gender identity. Okay, so the roots of this stuff is really
00:25:58.760 disturbing. So when we're talking about the predation that is at times inherent in the ideology that
00:26:04.520 we're talking about, like we're not exaggerating here. This is something that goes back to the
00:26:09.300 very beginning. And what happened to the Reimer twin brothers? They both grew up and killed themselves.
00:26:14.540 I don't think we talk about that enough. I know I've talked about it. I know there are plenty of other
00:26:18.360 podcasters who have talked about it, but that's the roots of this stuff. Okay, so when we're saying
00:26:22.900 that we're looking out for children, we really are. But let me read you a little bit more from
00:26:27.540 Women's Voices. They've done a lot of research on the roots of transgender ideology. And this is not to say
00:26:34.240 that people who are gender dysphoric or people who are confused about their gender or people who
00:26:38.680 identify as transgender or who transition are perpetrators or perpetuators of the kind of 0.97
00:26:48.240 behavior and kind of thinking that we are about to talk about in this particular thread. That's not
00:26:52.420 what I'm saying. I'm saying the roots of the ideology. And yes, some members of the activist class
00:26:59.360 that have nefarious motives, that they do have these motivations and that this is the heart and
00:27:08.000 these are the roots. This is the foundation of what this movement is. And I think that if we
00:27:14.200 understood the wickedness that is really inherent in the activism portion of this ideology, we would
00:27:21.220 be a lot stronger in pushing back against it. So this is part of the thread and we can link it and we
00:27:27.380 can put it up on YouTube. So the creator of the trans flag, Robert Hogue, who goes by Monica Helms,
00:27:33.680 used to steal his mother's underwear, then move on to stealing random women's underwear for sexual
00:27:39.020 reasons and has written a story about an adult man marrying a teen girl who does not age. Monica
00:27:44.960 Helms designed the first trans pride flag in 1999. In More Than Just a Flag, which is Helms' memoir,
00:27:53.020 he states, I'm both man and woman, neither man nor woman, and sometimes both at the same time,
00:27:58.600 I believe enlightened. I believe I'm enlightened. My brain floats between multiple worlds. That
00:28:04.160 doesn't sound like a healthy person to you. That's because this is not healthy. And by the way,
00:28:08.440 I've always thought that it was strange that the trans flag is baby colors. Like,
00:28:12.800 is that not freak anyone else out? So he goes on to describe in his memoir, which they have posted
00:28:19.480 screenshots of. He uses the term girl in the shadows to refer to himself in third person.
00:28:27.580 I found several of my mother's cotton panties and bras. He said, the girl in the shadows wanted
00:28:31.540 to try them on. When I did, they felt exciting to wear. And then while serving with the U.S. Navy
00:28:37.820 during the 1970s, Helms began stealing women's underwear from the laundry room. A lace bra rolled 1.00
00:28:42.640 around. I became transfixed. I no longer obsessed about losing my virginity. I sensed a growing desire
00:28:47.580 to dress as a woman. This is the person who created the trans flag who continues to this 0.97
00:28:52.880 day to be an influential trans activist. Helms then described stealing women's underwear saying,
00:28:58.180 I walked up to the dryer, popped open the door, grabbed the bra. I had just stolen a bra from
00:29:02.440 a dryer. More than that, I enjoyed wearing it. Was I a pervert? I didn't know. This felt exciting.
00:29:09.440 He goes on to describe again throughout the memoir of buying and stealing women's underwear.
00:29:15.200 He said that he later decided that he would marry a woman. And this woman, he says, and has been more
00:29:23.340 strongly disapproved of his fetish. Helms claims to have have told her before proposing, but says
00:29:28.280 later in life, Donna would deny that I ever told her about my cross dressing. Throughout their marriage,
00:29:33.420 Helms pursued this fetish against her wishes, spending family finances on clothing and makeup.
00:29:40.400 And then they ended up divorcing. He fully transitioned, you know, transitioned. I use 0.86
00:29:47.380 quotes around that. And then he decided that he was going to frequent sex clubs to see if he was
00:29:54.000 gay. It turns out he called himself a lesbian. So he is still attracted to women. Yes, he has had some
00:29:58.980 kind of sexual fetish towards women since he was young. And then he wrote another book. And this is
00:30:06.360 where it gets disturbing and more disturbing and pertinent to what we're talking about. Tales from
00:30:11.080 a two-gendered mind. He would write short stories with sexual themes, including forced feminization
00:30:18.400 and age regression. So this is going to be super, super disturbing. And I will probably do a full episode
00:30:24.920 on this at some point because there's so much research out there that actually this organization
00:30:31.700 has uncovered that within pornography, there is something called age play and forced feminization. 0.88
00:30:40.340 And it is typically referred to this is really disturbing for me to even say. But again, I think
00:30:44.080 it's so important that we understand where all of this is coming from. Something called sissy porn.
00:30:48.920 And it is men that are basically acting as young girls and are, you know, doing whatever happens
00:30:57.480 in pornography. And Monica Helms, the creator of the trans flag talks about this in his short stories,
00:31:05.680 tales from a two-gendered mind. He says, one of the one of the tweets summarizes one story in
00:31:10.680 particular sexualizes a child who is described as a witch who does not age. An adult man marries her
00:31:16.060 and their daughter has a father's features, but her mother's magical powers. Helms's memoir
00:31:20.720 makes references to the desire to have been a little girl. And then there's another short story that
00:31:27.300 he wrote called you wake up as a little girl. He represents an age regression trope. So I guess,
00:31:35.220 you know, where you go back in age that is commonly found in transgender erotica. Such content is 1.00
00:31:40.140 currently available on Amazon, but is also widely proliferated on social media in the form of sissy
00:31:46.500 captions or fictional stories. And the introduction to this, I can't even read it. It's it just describes
00:31:55.400 young girls and leotards and his fantasy in the story is that he wakes up to be a six-year-old girl
00:32:02.460 wearing tights and a leotard. Guys, he is not the only one within this ideology and within this group
00:32:09.780 of activists that writes and produces this kind of erotica that sexualizes young children. We've
00:32:17.640 already gone all the way back to John Money. I just mentioned sissy porn like this. This is darker 0.82
00:32:24.940 than I think that we could even realize. And then the thread goes on to say Helms designed the
00:32:31.940 transgender pride flag in 1999, claimed that the baby blue, pink and white colors were divine
00:32:37.100 intervention. But the color scheme is seen in symbols found on pro pedophile sites. The code
00:32:43.580 predates the flag. The pedophile code predates the flag and has been used in areas of child sex
00:32:51.240 trafficking. And then we don't have time to go into all of it. But this thread does talk about how
00:33:00.600 the lead psychologist at the Tavistock Gender Identity Clinic advocates for normalizing the age play
00:33:08.520 that we were just talking about. Furrydom, which I don't even really know what that is, but that's a
00:33:13.860 whole other realm of pornography and sexualization that involves adults acting like children. And also
00:33:23.000 he advocates for normalizing sadomasochistic practices as further sexuality, further sexualities
00:33:30.520 this person also identifies as trans. And there is a video that this particular thread plays in which
00:33:39.140 this transgender man who I or he's a man who identifies as a woman that he actually says age
00:33:46.320 play is not pedophilia, but that it's something that could be good for, I don't know, transgender 1.00
00:33:54.180 people and non transgender people to play into. And then the thread talks about what we've already
00:33:59.120 talked about with John Money. But look, guys, it's not a coincidence that we see these correlations.
00:34:07.980 Unfortunately, there is something far more perverted and nefarious within the motivations of trying to
00:34:17.060 push children to change their gender. It's really, really disturbing stuff. And again, that's not
00:34:24.900 painting everyone in the movement or everyone who questions their identity with the same brush. I
00:34:30.540 think we just need to understand what is underneath all of this. This is demonic. Okay? Like, I don't
00:34:37.460 think that the right thing to do when we are facing this kind of demonic activity, this kind of darkness
00:34:44.120 and perversion is to play games with the pronoun police and use pronoun politeness. You are acquiescing to
00:34:50.900 and in one sense affirming some of the darkest stuff that we have ever uncovered or can even be
00:35:02.380 comprehended by the same mind. Like, we want nothing to do with this. We take every bit of action to push
00:35:10.780 back against this. This is the predatory. This is a predatory ideology. It's not one of inclusion and
00:35:16.440 empathy and understanding. It is one that is damaging, that has really evil and wicked roots.
00:35:23.280 So, knowing what we know, talking about what we just talked about, keep that in mind as you think
00:35:33.720 about the fact that Disney is so apparently passionately and adamantly for teachers talking
00:35:42.240 to young children about gender switching. I mean, that's troubling. That's troubling. And look,
00:35:49.120 I would say that most people at Disney don't have any predatory inclinations or predatory motivations.
00:35:55.140 But I do think it's pertinent to talk about the tweets that were put out by Christopher Rufo
00:36:00.400 that outline some of the things that Disney employees have said about the content that they
00:36:11.200 want to distribute to children. So, let me read you some of these quotes and you can go to Chris's
00:36:19.360 timeline and you can actually watch the videos. This was an internal meeting, all hands on deck,
00:36:25.380 that was leaked to Chris. Executive producer LaToya Raveneau says that she loves Disney's content and
00:36:33.520 she really wanted to work for Disney, but people told her she wasn't going to be able to, you know,
00:36:39.480 insert her agenda or insert any kind of queer content. But she says, Meredith Roberts and our
00:36:45.940 leadership over there has been so welcome to my not at all secret gay agenda. I was just wherever I
00:36:52.700 could adding queerness. If you see anything queer in the show, no one would stop me and no one was 0.97
00:36:58.100 trying to stop me. So, that's happening. Corporate President Carrie Burke says, I'm here as a mother of
00:37:03.820 two queer children, actually. One transgender child and one pansexual child. And also as a leader,
00:37:10.660 we have many, many LGBTQIA characters in our stories. And yet, we don't have enough leads and
00:37:16.760 narratives in which gay characters just get to be characters and not have to be about gay stories.
00:37:22.220 A pansexual child, transgender child, and pansexual child. What are the odds there? What are the odds 1.00
00:37:29.460 there, Carrie? Production coordinator Alan March says, they've been really open to exploring queer
00:37:35.720 stories. So, it's not just a numbers game of how many LGBTQ plus characters you have. The more
00:37:40.740 centered the story is on a character, the more nuanced you get into their story, especially with
00:37:44.860 trans characters. The only way to have these kind of trans characters, canonical asexual trans characters, 0.93
00:37:50.660 canonical bisexual characters, is to give them stories where they can be their whole selves.
00:37:56.200 That's amazing. I mean, it's one thing to talk about what you might think as a child's, like,
00:38:02.880 sexual orientation, which I think is really disturbing. But when you're talking about 1.00
00:38:08.340 transgenderism and the gender transition of a young person and just the damage that you're doing to 1.00
00:38:13.520 their minds and bodies, it's amazing that this has become mainstream at all. Chris Rufo also quoted
00:38:19.980 the diversity and inclusion manager, Vivian Ware, who said,
00:38:23.980 last summer, we removed all of the gendered greetings and relationship to our live spiels 0.79
00:38:29.560 at the parks. So, we no longer say ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, which is just really
00:38:36.060 sad. It's just really sad. Boys and girls exist. Everyone who is alive is a boy or a girl, a man or 0.94
00:38:42.780 a woman. And to try to erase this is really sad. What I also think is pertinent to the conversation, 0.92
00:38:47.260 which I don't think characterizes probably Disney as a whole, but I do think shows just how hypocritical
00:38:55.400 they really are. Chris Rufo also tweeted out several employees of Disney who have been charged with or
00:39:04.500 convicted of child sex abuse. There have been employees every year for at least the past decade
00:39:11.200 who have met these charges. And he links all of these accusations to the journalism that came out
00:39:18.680 at the time that they were accused and they were charged and convicted. He says Disney cruise ship
00:39:23.340 employee Milton Braganza was caught on camera molesting an 11-year-old girl, but Disney authorities
00:39:28.860 allegedly told security to keep your mouth shut, allowing the man to evade arrest. Ex-Disney cruise
00:39:35.300 officer said that she was ordered not to report the molestation. Disney employees Savannah Lawrence
00:39:43.440 and Jonathan McGrew were arrested for soliciting a threesome with undercover agents posing as a 13-year-old
00:39:48.780 girl. Our fantasy is to play stepdad, stepdaughter, stepmother, they said in an online chat. Disney
00:39:54.840 employees. He says, Chris Rufo says, Disney employee Robert Kingsolver was arrested for soliciting sex
00:40:01.720 from undercover agents posing as a 14-year-old girl. I work for Disney, so I love to see dads
00:40:06.260 having fun with their daughters, he said in the chat. Oh my gosh. Okay, I can't read the last line.
00:40:11.080 Really awful, terrible things. Another tweet, Disney concierge Alan Treister was arrested for
00:40:16.900 soliciting sex from undercover agents posing as a 14-year-old boy. Disney employee Paul Fazio was
00:40:23.600 arrested for 50 counts of possession of child pornography, including multiple scenes of nude
00:40:27.080 prepubescent children engaging in sexual activity with adults. Disney character actor Patrick Holgerson
00:40:34.080 was arrested for soliciting sex from undercover agents posing as a 13-year-old boy. He said,
00:40:38.780 I work with kids. I love kids, but not in a bad way, he told the police officer. Sicko. Chris Rufo,
00:40:44.380 Disney World employees Justin Hazen and Arlandra Sims were arrested and charged with a total of 40
00:40:50.480 counts of child pornography depicting victims as young as four and five years old. And that's not all.
00:40:56.520 He names other people who were involved, who were Disney employees, who were involved in this kind
00:41:03.180 of awful, demonic, satanic behavior. And again, I'm not saying that characterizes everyone at Disney or
00:41:11.540 hopefully the core motivations of Disney, but is it a little hypocritical? Is it a little suspect? A
00:41:17.760 little sus? Yeah, I think so. And also while they are saying, oh, we might, you know, we might move our
00:41:24.000 business from Florida because we don't believe that we don't believe that there should be any
00:41:29.600 prohibition against talking to kids about sex switching when they're five years old. They are
00:41:34.200 also spreading their business, particularly Disney Plus, to places like Saudi Arabia, where it's
00:41:42.540 literally illegal to be a homosexual. But this is, you know, this is what they do. This is the same 0.96
00:41:46.780 thing that Disney did. I think it was back in 2018. After the heartbeat bill passed in Georgia,
00:41:51.720 they said, oh, I don't think that we're going to be producing any movies in Georgia. Let us
00:41:55.260 let us no longer let us no longer do business with Georgia because this is so egregious that anyone
00:42:00.540 could possibly want to stop the murder of babies inside the womb. That was Baba Iger, who was the 1.00
00:42:06.260 CEO at the time. Meanwhile, one of their biggest markets is is China. And not only that, but they were
00:42:13.800 also producing Mulan right outside of Xinjiang, which is where the concentration camp of Uyghur
00:42:20.340 Muslims is in China. So this is what corporations do. This is who they are. I do think that unfortunately, 1.00
00:42:28.340 there is a lot of predatory behavior towards children, even if it's not sexually predatory.
00:42:33.860 It is ideologically predatory towards children in these large corporations, especially corporations
00:42:40.460 that produce content for children. So we have to be so careful. And before I get into kind of
00:42:45.820 what I think, how I think we should approach this as Christian parents, I do just kind of want to
00:42:50.620 explore this question of why, like why would a company like Disney or any other big company
00:42:57.580 take this kind of stand that is so unpopular among most Americans? Don't companies just care about
00:43:04.180 profit? Don't they just want to make money? Don't they want good approval ratings among their
00:43:09.680 customer base? Well, it's complicated. In a sense, yes, they care about their public image and maybe
00:43:17.280 they care a little bit if Christians or conservatives boycott no longer use their product. But the fact of
00:43:23.560 the matter is, is that Disney and a lot of companies in the United States don't really have an interest
00:43:30.120 in serving our interests. They don't really care and they don't have to care about us taking our money
00:43:36.120 away. And that is because they are primarily owned by major investment firms, major corporations like
00:43:42.180 Vanguard and BlackRock. That's the truth. I mean, we've talked about this before in regards to the
00:43:47.580 Great Reset. BlackRock is an investment management firm and it manages trillions and trillions of dollars,
00:43:55.900 more dollars than the combined spending of every single American. So they have a ton of power.
00:44:03.800 They have majority stakes in some of the largest and the most influential companies or at least a lot
00:44:11.140 of stakes or a lot of shares in a lot of our biggest companies like Pfizer, like Facebook,
00:44:19.180 like the New York Times. I mean, Vanguard and BlackRock, they are very similar companies in that
00:44:25.680 regard. They own, they have the majority of influence in most of our major corporations in
00:44:31.920 America today. That's the truth. And it's a woke corporation. It says that one of its highest and
00:44:38.800 greatest values and goals is diversity, is representation. So we're not just talking about
00:44:44.580 the critical race theory, anti-whiteness kind of stuff. We are also talking about pro-transgender
00:44:51.600 representation. And one of their biggest goals is also green energy. And so some of the crisis that we
00:45:00.340 are seeing today with oil companies, because actually Vanguard and BlackRock also own the majority of
00:45:07.600 shares in a lot of oil companies, a lot of it can be blamed on these corporations that have green goals.
00:45:13.120 And all of this does play into the World Economic Forum in Davos. And yes, as conspiratorial as it sounds,
00:45:19.720 the Great Reset, it does all play together. And this environmental, social, and governance credit
00:45:25.640 scores that these companies are more interested in having than your approval as a Christian
00:45:33.800 conservative. And BlackRock pressures the companies that they invest in to agree with them socially.
00:45:39.520 Or what they would say is that they set expectations for the social behavior and the social stances
00:45:46.900 of the companies that they are investing in. And that includes Disney. If you look at
00:45:54.440 the charitable giving and the annual report that BlackRock puts out, you can see where they invest their
00:46:01.520 money. They are a very woke company in a lot of ways. Now, probably not personally, probably not the
00:46:06.520 people who are at the top. They just care about making money. There's a lot of money to be made, as we've
00:46:11.920 talked about, in green energy and in equity and diversity policies and training and all of this.
00:46:18.420 And plus, I think they ideologically, I mean, they might align with it or say that they align with
00:46:24.340 it. But really, it's just a way to kind of crush the people who are below them and to crush the
00:46:28.800 working class and to take more power and money themselves. And so if you want to know the why, 0.81
00:46:34.980 behind why Disney would make the decisions that they do when it seems like they would be so unpopular,
00:46:41.080 yeah, it's because BlackRock owns 7.7% of their shares and Vanguard owns 9.1% of their shares.
00:46:51.260 So, I mean, that's the truth of it. And we could talk a lot more about all that. I mean,
00:46:55.500 we could talk all about where BlackRock has its tentacles. It's really overwhelming. We've talked
00:47:01.200 about it before. We talked about it with Justin Haskins, and we'll link that past episode. That might
00:47:05.220 be my most popular, my most listened to episode ever, actually, because it really is so fascinating.
00:47:09.820 But the question is, okay, what should we do, though? Because even if our boycotts,
00:47:16.560 even if us voting with our dollar doesn't make a difference, even if they are just going to push
00:47:20.820 forward with the agenda that they have, if it's really just BlackRock that controls the world,
00:47:25.100 that controls a lot of our governments, that controls these corporations, what should we do?
00:47:31.020 What should we do as conservatives, primarily as Christians? What should we do as parents? And so
00:47:34.980 I'll get into that in just one second. All right. So what should we Christian moms do in the face 1.00
00:47:41.960 of all of this? In the face of this evil that we know that seems to be defended by what used to be
00:47:48.280 the greatest hub and distributor of family-friendly content, Disney. I know a lot of you have very fond
00:47:56.440 memories of Disney growing up, and it's near and dear to your heart. Now, I think that that is
00:48:02.480 completely understandable to feel some nostalgia. And there are a lot of adults who love Disney.
00:48:07.180 I think sometimes it can cross into kind of weird territory, to be perfectly honest, when adults
00:48:11.380 like kids' stuff too much. I also think that that is one reason why Disney has become more
00:48:17.840 progressive because probably more than ever, they have a lot of adults without children
00:48:22.700 who come to their parks and now are a big portion of their customer base who really don't care
00:48:32.800 what their child or what children are learning because they don't have children. So I think
00:48:36.620 that's an interesting aspect to all of this. I don't think it's weird to like Disney. I think it'd be
00:48:40.420 fun to go to Disney World, you know, one day with just my husband or go to Universal Studios. I know
00:48:46.100 that's separate. So I'm not knocking if you like it. But I do think the obsession with it
00:48:52.420 does get a little weird. And I think that we should question that if we are adults who are
00:48:56.320 obsessed with Disney or anything that is actually intended for children. And also, I think that we
00:49:03.860 need to realize that Disney actually has been a little sketchy for a while. This is not a brand new
00:49:10.480 thing. Now, I didn't really know that. I did watch Disney when I was growing up in the
00:49:16.060 90s and probably early 2000s. We went to Disney World a few times. We weren't like Disney obsessed,
00:49:21.340 but I remember it being really fun when I went there. And so but a lot of a lot of parents didn't
00:49:29.300 allow their kids to watch Disney because they actually thought that Disney was too liberal
00:49:33.260 then. So this is not new. This is not out of nowhere. Disney has been going in this direction
00:49:39.220 for a long time. And a lot of you have been boycotting Disney for a long time. A lot of you have
00:49:44.060 been have realized the kind of muck that Disney has promoted for a while. And so good for you.
00:49:53.340 But for those of us who are just kind of thinking about this and just kind of making this decision,
00:49:58.340 maybe I'm too late to even have any credibility and talking about this. But that's because our
00:50:03.560 kids are just kind of getting to the age where it would even be interesting to watch Disney.
00:50:07.580 Personally, for me, I don't think that we can support Disney. I don't think that I don't see us
00:50:14.220 going to Disney parks. I don't see us watching Disney Plus or watching Disney movies, maybe the
00:50:20.660 old Disney movies. If I can get like a DVD player or a VHS player, I don't even know how I would make
00:50:26.400 that work and watch, you know, Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty and Pocahontas and things like that.
00:50:31.260 Maybe. But I don't see us engaging with Disney in a way that would give them any money. I just don't.
00:50:40.260 This is too far. This is too much. I mean, when you're talking about being for the kind of ideology
00:50:48.220 and the kind of practices and behavior that is that is enabling and celebrating the genital mutilation
00:50:58.180 of minors, I just I don't think that I can be a part of that. And knowing that they are trying
00:51:06.300 to disciple my children in an anti-God, anti-biblical, anti-good-for-them way at their parks and through
00:51:16.380 their content, why would I pay them money to do that? I cannot give over my child's mind to these people
00:51:23.420 in good conscience, knowing what they are trying to do. Listen, the world is trying to disciple your
00:51:28.980 children. The world will indoctrinate your children. It's not neutral. They want your children to become
00:51:35.480 activists, to agree with them, and to align with their worldview. And it is our responsibility to
00:51:41.980 steward our children's hearts and minds as well as we can, as responsibly as we can, to disciple
00:51:49.400 them in a biblical worldview as much as we possibly can, to teach them what is good and right and true
00:51:55.160 because the world is going to teach them what is bad and wrong and false. And so we have to do the
00:52:02.620 best job that we can to protect their hearts and minds. That doesn't mean that we are going to be
00:52:06.500 able to shield them from everything, nor do we want to. I mean, that's not how we build their immunity
00:52:11.380 to evil and to deceit. Of course, we want them to understand some of the things that go on in the world,
00:52:18.020 but we want to have control over that. Yes, we want to ensure that they are learning about the things
00:52:24.600 that they have to learn about in a way that is age-appropriate, in a way that is good for their
00:52:29.720 development, that meets them where they are. And really, only parents who love and know their children
00:52:35.500 the best can do that. I'm not going to leave that up to teachers. I'm not going to leave that up to Disney.
00:52:41.620 It's our responsibility to primarily teach and to disciple our children. I think we just have to be
00:52:46.640 really careful about the content that our kids consume, even if we think, oh, they can't understand
00:52:51.380 that. Yeah, sure, they saw a trans character. They didn't really get it. I think that our kids,
00:52:57.380 even our young kids, understand and see and take in more than we think. And that, again,
00:53:01.960 the power of suggestion is so strong. We have to make the first suggestions that, hey, your body
00:53:07.400 is good. Hey, this is what God calls the family. This is who you are. It's great to be a girl. It's great
00:53:13.480 to be a boy. All of these things we have to start at a really young age because, like I said, the world
00:53:18.380 is going to tell them the opposite. So I personally can't support Disney. Now, I know that I can probably
00:53:26.480 not feasibly boycott every single entity that has ever said something that I disagree with.
00:53:33.100 And it's not really about that. I mean, I think that we can do the most that we can to try to live
00:53:37.460 lives of integrity and support businesses that support our values and aren't supporting things
00:53:42.840 that we don't agree with. That's true. I mean, but I do. I'm sure there are companies, yes, that I give
00:53:48.820 money to that I don't agree with. But when it comes to my child consuming content and being influenced by
00:53:55.520 people who I know we're trying to indoctrinate them in an anti-God worldview, like that is just a line
00:54:01.300 that I'm going to draw. That's a hill that I'm going to die on. And we all have to use discernment and
00:54:05.240 prayer and wisdom and the counseling of godly friends and pastors or church to try to decide,
00:54:10.560 you know, which businesses companies we're going to support and which ones we're not. I think we
00:54:14.840 just have to be really, really careful about companies that are producing content that are
00:54:20.820 trying to introduce our children to a destructive worldview. So for us, we can't support Disney.
00:54:27.660 We just can't. And there are other fun things to do in the world. There are other great producers
00:54:31.880 of awesome family-friendly content. There are fun places to go. And so, yeah, it's sad, but it's not
00:54:39.840 a tragedy. And guess what? Let's remember this also, is that Christians have gone through far worse
00:54:47.260 and are going through far worse than this right now. They've had to give up a lot more than their
00:54:52.040 Disney trip. They have had to make much bigger sacrifices. And so this is a small one that we can
00:54:58.700 make, I think, to the glory of God and to the benefit of our children. This is not the worst
00:55:04.000 trial that we are going to go through as children. It's not the hardest, or as Christians, it's not
00:55:09.000 the hardest decision that we're going to make. And look, I'm going to do a whole episode on this too,
00:55:14.580 and I can't get into all of it right now, but the church has been countercultural from our beginning
00:55:20.100 when it comes to how people approach children, how we value children, how we see them as worthy.
00:55:26.120 When the church started, pagan, ancient Rome and Greece really saw children as just burdens,
00:55:34.580 as objects that are available, that are accessible for exploitation and abuse and neglect. That is how
00:55:43.540 the ancient world saw children. It wasn't until Christianity then internationalized the originally
00:55:51.180 Jewish idea of people being made in the image of God and God knitting us together in our mother's womb
00:55:55.860 but also introduced this Jesus who clearly cared about children, who welcomed the children
00:56:02.260 unto him, who introduced this concept of radical equality that men, women, children, slaves, free
00:56:10.560 people, that we are all equally dead apart from Christ, and in him we are equally saved. That was a radical
00:56:19.620 concept of equality that we see throughout the New Testament, including in Ephesians 4 and 5,
00:56:25.140 when we see that the husband is called to love and care for his wife, that a father is not
00:56:29.280 supposed to provoke their child to anger, that masters are supposed to treat their slaves well.
00:56:35.400 That was unheard of in the time that Ephesians was written. And yet that's what Christianity has 1.00
00:56:42.480 always done. It's radically fought for the most vulnerable. Child exploitation and abuse and child
00:56:48.200 sacrifice, unfortunately, is as old as time, just about. And the church for our 2,000 years have been
00:56:56.420 at our best defenders of these children, defenders of the most vulnerable, and we are still called to
00:57:02.100 that today. We are still called to be a countercultural force for the sake of children and the most vulnerable.
00:57:07.480 So let's continue to be that.
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