Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 11, 2022


Ep 597 | How 'Inclusion' Destroys Countries, Churches & Communities


Episode Stats

Length

36 minutes

Words per Minute

162.53116

Word Count

5,976

Sentence Count

315

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

Empathy and inclusion are two traits that sound universally positive but can actually be very toxic, not just for you individually, but also for society as a whole, especially politically. In this episode, Allie talks about the dangers of toxic empathy and how to balance compassion and true love while never abandoning the truth.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, guys. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. I hope everyone had a great weekend. This episode
00:00:07.920 is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com slash Allie. That's
00:00:13.180 goodranchers.com slash Allie. All right. Today, we are doing our part two of the traits that sound
00:00:31.460 universally positive, but can actually be very toxic, not just for you individually, but also
00:00:38.500 for society as a whole, especially politically. So last Monday, we talked about the dangers of toxic
00:00:44.960 empathy. And just to summarize that, what I said was that empathy, putting yourself
00:00:50.160 in someone else's shoes, taking on someone's pain can be a good thing, but it can also inhibit you
00:00:57.260 from seeing things as they are, from thinking objectively. And when we don't see things as
00:01:02.680 they are, when we refuse to look at a situation objectively, we aren't able to discern right from
00:01:10.220 wrong or the truth from a lie. Someone's experience or someone's story can be so emotionally captivating
00:01:17.260 to us that we allow that to characterize our understanding of reality as a whole. And that
00:01:23.280 can be very dangerous because data can contradict someone's anecdote or someone's anecdote can be
00:01:29.160 true. And it's not necessarily indicative of a system as a whole. We used race and stories about
00:01:36.220 race and policing and police brutality and narratives about systemic racism as our primary example of
00:01:43.080 that, because of course, no one wants to be a bigot. No one wants to be racist and no one wants to
00:01:48.800 disregard someone's story of experiencing prejudice or discrimination. And so we allow people's emotional
00:01:55.380 responses to the news stories that we see or someone's lived experience to then characterize
00:02:01.480 what we think about the system as a whole or what we think about trends in the United States.
00:02:07.420 They cause us to come to conclusions that aren't necessarily supported by data or by truth.
00:02:13.120 And as people who love justice, as Christians are called to do, Micah 6.8 is a verse that you
00:02:18.920 see talked about a lot by social justice Christians. But if we love justice, it's not just a feeling.
00:02:25.620 It's not empathy. It is actually looking at a situation or a case impartially without showing
00:02:31.440 favoritism to who we think is the weak person or who we think is the great, more powerful,
00:02:36.880 influential person. We have to be able to see things as they are. We have to be able to look at the
00:02:42.360 truth. And empathy can actually inhibit us from doing that. And so we talked about the balance for
00:02:47.960 Christians how we balance compassion, which is important, and true love while never abandoning
00:02:54.080 the truth. For the Christian, truth and love are inextricably intertwined. And so go back and
00:03:00.660 listen to that episode if you haven't listened to it already. And I promised that we would do a part
00:03:05.880 two. I thought about including this part that we're going to get into today in the last episode,
00:03:12.160 but it was just going to be too long. So empathy and inclusion, I think, are two traits
00:03:17.560 that we have been told are some of the highest values that we should try to aspire to as a country
00:03:26.380 individually and as Christians. We are told in so many words that empathy and inclusion
00:03:32.800 are a fruit of the Spirit. And they are not fruits of the Spirit because inclusion and empathy are not
00:03:39.580 the same thing as kindness. They're not the same thing as faithfulness or gentleness or self-control.
00:03:45.140 They can be subsets of those things, but again, not when they cause us to abandon the objective
00:03:52.160 standards set in God's Word of what is right, what is wrong, what is true, what is false. And so we're
00:03:58.000 going to talk about inclusion today and how inclusion, unfettered inclusion, unconditional inclusion,
00:04:04.420 inclusion coupled with the abandonment of the truth is actually extremely damaging, not just to you
00:04:10.560 as a person individually, but also to our country as a whole. And I'll give you some examples of that.
00:04:16.100 I don't have to tell you who listen to this podcast faithfully or who have been paying attention at all
00:04:22.060 to what's going on in our culture today that some of the most vulnerable groups in our society are
00:04:28.800 under attack. We talk a lot about how children are under attack in a variety of ways. We often say that
00:04:35.240 children are always the unconsenting subjects of progressive social experiments, whether we're
00:04:42.400 talking about abortion, whether we're talking about gender ideology in transition, whether we're talking
00:04:47.220 about divisive racial indoctrination in schools, whether we're talking about the unscientific
00:04:53.980 COVID lockdowns and mask mandates. Kids are always the unconsenting and the defenseless subjects of
00:05:01.100 progressive social experiments. And they have always been the subject of the predation of pagan and
00:05:07.340 secular society going almost all the way back to the beginning, as we talked about last week in our
00:05:13.580 in the Disney episode, we talked about the dark history of gender grooming, child sacrifice in one
00:05:20.040 way or another has always existed. And when Christianity came around and disrupted the pagan notion
00:05:30.360 that children and women and slaves are less than the adult free male and are just burdens on society,
00:05:38.120 when Christianity came in and introduced this concept of radical equality, that we are all
00:05:45.080 made in the image of God, of course, universalizing in Old Testament value of people being made in the
00:05:52.400 image of God and then taking it to the next level, that we are all equally dead in sin apart from Christ,
00:05:57.260 and we are all equally heirs once we are in Christ by grace through faith. That was a radical
00:06:05.420 countercultural notion. And we can't even begin to quantify how it has changed the course of history
00:06:13.100 and it has shaped cultures, especially Western cultures. I mean, the idea of the Imago Dei,
00:06:19.580 the idea of all of us needing salvation through Christ, that is what has laid the foundation of every
00:06:25.880 truly good and truly just movement for the equal rights of people, whether it's the abolition of slavery
00:06:33.500 or whether we are fighting for the abolition of abortion. Let's not try to separate those movements
00:06:39.420 from the gospel because that is what has motivated it. So Christianity has always been radically
00:06:45.440 countercultural in our view of human beings and in particular in our view of women and children.
00:06:52.720 We've talked about before how Ephesians 5, which contains passages that feminists really are angry
00:07:00.280 about, that wives should submit to their husbands as to the Lord, but that wasn't the radical part of
00:07:07.340 Ephesians 5 at the time that Ephesians was written. The radical part of that passage was not that wives
00:07:13.540 should submit to their husbands, which was normal at the time in that wives not just had to submit to
00:07:19.740 their husbands, but women had to also just submit to men in general. The radical part, the countercultural
00:07:25.760 part of Ephesians 5 was that husbands were to love their wives as Christ loved the church and gave
00:07:33.480 himself up for her. So men, husbands were called to the kind of self-sacrifice, this kind of self-emptying,
00:07:42.300 the self-denial that was really only expected of women and children, the elderly and slaves at the
00:07:50.620 time. Men, the adult free male, which was seen as the center of society in a society that was kind of
00:07:58.560 seen in concentric circles and as men being the most important. They were told in scripture that they are
00:08:06.480 to love their wives in a self-sacrificial and humble way, love them so much that it was supposed
00:08:14.620 to emulate how Christ loved his church. Christ died for the church. That was the radical part at the
00:08:20.900 time. There's another part of this segment of Ephesians that says, yes, that children are supposed
00:08:28.360 to obey their parents, which that wasn't the radical part. The radical part back then would have been
00:08:34.260 that fathers were asked, were told not to provoke their children to anger, were called through
00:08:41.980 gentleness in love of their child. And so again, we see how this concept of radical equality, that
00:08:47.680 all people are dignified because they are made in the image of God, and then all Christians are equal
00:08:54.280 under Christ. That doesn't do away with all hierarchies as we see as Ephesians 5 describes marriage,
00:09:00.560 but it does introduce new requirements for that hierarchy. It does introduce a demand to love and
00:09:09.780 a demand of self-sacrifice even for the person who is in charge, even for the person who is the head of
00:09:15.200 the family, which is the husband. And so Christianity has been radical when it comes to how the world views
00:09:23.260 women and children. At her best, the church has been a refuge for women and children, and we are still
00:09:30.140 called to that. We are still called to that today. And my argument, how this ties into what we're
00:09:35.180 talking about, is that unfettered and unbiblical empathy and inclusion has actually been harmful to
00:09:44.960 these categories of people, to the most vulnerable. I know that we say we want to be inclusive and we want
00:09:50.700 to be empathetic towards the most vulnerable, but I want to explain to you today, just as I did in
00:09:55.660 the last episode about empathy, how it is actually harming these people and how it is actually
00:10:02.200 inhibiting our ability to carry out justice for the most vulnerable people in our society,
00:10:08.920 specifically, as we'll talk about today, women and children. So I just, I know that was kind of an
00:10:14.040 aside. I wanted to set this up biblically and kind of give us some historical context for why this stuff
00:10:20.060 matters. So let's talk specifically about how women are kind of under attack today, actually
00:10:28.880 because of empathy and inclusion. So when it comes to women, we're not just facing our erasure
00:10:33.100 because of inclusion, because you have to include all people by saying things like chest feeding and
00:10:38.780 birthing people, but also like we are dealing with women as a whole mistreatment and oppression that
00:10:43.940 comes from that erasure. So what I mean is we're not just getting rid of the word woman in feminine
00:10:49.100 terms in our language, pregnant people, people with uteruses, chest feeding. I mean, that's truly
00:10:54.520 so objectifying and offensive by the same people who say you can't reduce a woman down to her biological
00:11:00.760 functions or down to her body parts. That's not what, that's not what makes a woman. Well, those are the
00:11:06.960 same people that are using disgusting terms like people with a uterus. Really? I mean, that really is
00:11:13.520 like newspeak. If you have ever read 1984, they expand the language in 1984 while also reducing
00:11:24.900 our concepts down to like the crudest terms. And so your mind is actually limited in what it is able
00:11:35.040 to comprehend and what it actually knows. That's something that happens in 1984 and that's certainly
00:11:40.720 happening now. People with uteruses. There used to be one word for that. And now we've expanded it to
00:11:49.340 actually shrink our consciousness and our understanding of humanity. NPR actually recently
00:11:55.900 announced its official editorial position that is that they will use the term pregnant people instead
00:12:02.540 of pregnant women. And that in itself is absurd and troubling, but it's worse than rhetorical erasure.
00:12:08.940 It's worse than words. There are tangible real life consequences to this erasure. And NPR said that
00:12:16.460 they were doing this in the name of inclusion. That was the justification that they gave in this
00:12:20.960 long article that said the reason that we're talking about pregnant people and the reason that,
00:12:25.140 you know, we're not going to say pregnant women anymore is because of inclusion. When really like
00:12:30.020 you are excluding people using that language because women don't feel like we are covered by that.
00:12:36.500 Like we have, I mean, women have worked really hard to show that, hey, women give so much value to
00:12:43.360 society that burying a child and raising children is not a less than responsibility. It's not a less
00:12:49.680 than role in society. It's really important. And Christianity, like I said, has helped in society's
00:12:57.260 understanding of just how important that is and just how important women are. And now we don't even get
00:13:02.680 our own word. Language changes never happened in a vacuum and they never happen without consequence.
00:13:09.820 That's something that the left understands. They are excellent at capturing the culture through
00:13:14.580 changes in language. Abortion isn't baby murder. It's just reproductive health. It's just women's
00:13:19.560 rights. And who's against women's rights? Soft on crime policies aren't lawlessness and anarchy and
00:13:24.420 injustice. They're actually criminal justice. And saying pregnant people is an erasure. It's actually
00:13:30.860 inclusion. But here's the deal. Inclusion of one group sometimes means the exclusion of another group
00:13:38.900 or at least the exclusion of the rights or safety of another. Not always, but sometimes. And in the case
00:13:45.460 of men and women or men identifying as women and including them in women's groups, that is the case.
00:13:50.740 So think about this in a non-political sense. If you included your entire neighborhood into your home,
00:13:56.920 your entire community to live there, and you just decided people can come in and out as they please,
00:14:03.240 you would be excluding you and your children's right to a safe home or ability to have a safe home
00:14:08.160 with enough resources for you. You can't have both. You can either have the entire neighborhood or
00:14:13.160 community living in your house, or you can have a calm, safe, roomy home for you and your family.
00:14:18.920 You can't have both. You might be able to include some people from your community and still have a safe
00:14:23.320 and roomy home for your family. But you can't include everyone in your community and still
00:14:27.400 accomplish that. You are excluding the ability of your children to be able to have a safe environment,
00:14:32.680 a comfortable environment in which they can live and grow. This is why inclusion in and of itself
00:14:38.080 is not a virtue. Inclusion by itself in and of itself is not a virtue. It is not a goal. It is not a good
00:14:45.500 aim of a country, a company, a team, or anything. Colleges don't include everyone. Athletic teams,
00:14:53.480 Broadway casts, marriages, homes do not include everyone. And if they do, they actually cease to
00:14:59.220 exist because standards and boundaries and definitions is actually what makes them what they
00:15:04.920 are. They cannot be, without some kind of exclusion, what they were meant to be. They cannot perform
00:15:12.080 their function. So if a cast of a movie included everyone that tried out, included people that
00:15:18.160 couldn't act, it would be a bad movie. No one would want to see it. And it wouldn't deliver what it was
00:15:23.480 meant to deliver. It wouldn't be able to function the way it's supposed to function. Every entity must
00:15:28.920 exclude because every entity has standards. It has to, to maintain the integrity of the, of the function
00:15:38.380 and the purpose of the entity. That means that every entity must discriminate. That is a word that we
00:15:47.720 are told is universally negative, that you never want to be discriminatory, but no one actually
00:15:52.840 believes that. You have to be discriminatory. There are people that you can't hire for your company.
00:15:58.760 You can't choose everyone. There are people that you can't pick for your team. There are people that
00:16:03.600 you wouldn't choose to come into your house. You discriminate against people by excluding them.
00:16:10.120 Exclusion and discrimination have, as I said, negative connotations in our world today.
00:16:16.120 And inclusion and equality have universally positive connotations. But the truth is,
00:16:21.140 any entity will fail if they are endlessly inclusive and ensure everyone has equal outcomes.
00:16:26.220 So no discrimination. The best entities exclude and discriminate against those that would threaten
00:16:31.640 the function, the safety, and the goals of their organization or their country or whatever it is.
00:16:37.320 Teams discriminate against players that aren't good enough by excluding them from the roster.
00:16:41.980 You discriminated against other guys before you met your husband by excluding them from your list
00:16:46.800 of marriage prospects. Businesses discriminate against people outside of their company by excluding
00:16:54.180 them from employment and maybe within their company by excluding them from promotion.
00:16:58.360 Thus, the athletes, the guys in your life, the potential employees, and the employees in your company
00:17:05.540 did not enjoy equality. They didn't enjoy equal outcomes. They were discriminated against.
00:17:11.220 They may have been offered equal opportunity, but they weren't given equal outcomes.
00:17:16.780 Exclusion and discrimination are a necessary part of our lives because they protect the form and
00:17:22.380 function of organizations and entities. If you include everyone who wants to come to America,
00:17:28.020 into the country, we cease to be a country. We cease to be a sovereign nation. We don't have borders.
00:17:33.280 We don't have citizenship, which means there are no rights that come from citizenship, which means
00:17:38.280 citizens have no voting power, which means we have no legitimate elected, legitimately elected governing
00:17:43.040 body, which means we have no legitimate laws and no legitimate protection. We become a place of
00:17:48.300 lawlessness ruled by anarchy where no one is protected. And the most vulnerable women, children,
00:17:53.320 the elderly, the poor, the disabled are on the chopping block. If you include every faith into
00:17:59.260 Christianity, every doctrine into Christianity, it is no longer Christianity. John 14, 6, Jesus says,
00:18:05.160 I'm the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me, not through Buddha
00:18:09.340 or Muhammad or yourself or Marianne Williamson, through Christ. Christianity is an inclusive religion
00:18:15.660 in that it doesn't matter what you've done, what your nationality is, where you come from, how rich you are,
00:18:20.740 how smart you are, but it's exclusive in the sense that there is one way and a one way only to be
00:18:27.920 forgiven of your sins and reconciled to God, and that is by grace through faith in Christ.
00:18:32.160 If Jesus isn't the only way to God, Christianity ceases to be Christianity. It's just, I don't know,
00:18:37.480 some form of agnosticism or universalism. So it is with almost everything. There must be standards.
00:18:43.400 There must be limits. There must be definitions. There must be boundaries. And most people seem to
00:18:49.320 understand that. So most people understand what we're talking about in the necessity of exclusion
00:19:00.060 and discrimination. And I'll talk about the different kinds of exclusion and discrimination
00:19:04.820 in a minute, because I know that that might be what you're thinking. Well, you know, some
00:19:09.180 discrimination and exclusion is wrong. And obviously, I agree with you. We'll get to that difference in
00:19:12.940 just a second. But when we say that discrimination and exclusion are universally objectively bad,
00:19:19.360 we're actually employing some cognitive dissonance there, because most people understand this when it
00:19:23.960 comes to companies or colleges or castes. And at one point, not too long ago, we generally agreed
00:19:32.080 that discrimination and exclusion is acceptable as long as it is on merit, or in the case of religious
00:19:38.840 organizations because of a biological or theological or moral belief. But progressivism, the current
00:19:46.260 left doesn't really seem to believe that anymore. Progressivism has a very, in my opinion, wonky view
00:19:53.660 of inclusion. Progressivism in the United States, as much as they say, therefore, inclusion and equality
00:19:59.960 and anti-discrimination, they're actually not. What they mean by inclusion is greater representation of
00:20:06.820 the people that they deem marginalized to the exclusion of everyone else. And so that's another
00:20:14.060 that's another reason why we should be really careful to say, oh, yeah, we want to be inclusive,
00:20:18.980 because what progressives mean by inclusive is actually not just inclusive. We should include
00:20:24.640 everyone. They don't mean that we should include Christians or we should include conservatives or we
00:20:28.980 should include heterodox viewpoints. They mean they want to include their groups to the exclusion of
00:20:35.300 other groups. And so they actually understand, progressives actually understand, that inclusion
00:20:39.700 necessarily typically means the exclusion of other groups. That's why conservatives, Christians,
00:20:45.680 can't be tricked by that word because it's not entirely innocuous. For example, affirmative action
00:20:52.140 policies in academia, in the government, or in corporate America discriminate against, exclude whites and
00:20:58.840 Asians in favor of black Americans. In fact, every institutionalized form of discrimination today
00:21:04.300 actually cuts in favor of black Americans and against white and Asian Americans. That's a fact.
00:21:09.600 You cannot find me an equity or an inclusion policy or program that does not explicitly seek to elevate
00:21:15.560 black people, even if that means excluding equally qualified or more qualified white and Asian
00:21:21.900 candidates. That's been true for years. That's not just since George Floyd. Like that's been true for
00:21:25.940 decades in the United States. There's actually a case before the Supreme Court right now about this
00:21:30.900 regarding discrimination by colleges against whites and Asians. I think it's going to be decided by the
00:21:36.200 Supreme Court this summer. Progressives are also okay with inclusive policies that exclude the rights of
00:21:43.500 those that they deem less important or that they view with hostility. The Equality Act is a great example of
00:21:50.240 that. Churches and religious schools would be forced to include employees whose sexuality or so-called
00:21:56.060 gender identity is against their faith is against their faith's teachings to the exclusion of these
00:22:01.160 organizations' rights to practice their religion sincerely. So Christian hospitals would be forced to
00:22:06.220 include abortions and sex change surgeries probably under the Equality Act. But what is really meant when people
00:22:15.180 say that we should be for inclusion and against discrimination, like in the most truly innocent and sincere
00:22:24.160 way, what most people mean, I'm not talking about a lot of people on the left, I'm not talking about
00:22:30.920 progressive ideologues, but I think, you know, just the average, moderate, center-left, center-right,
00:22:38.180 and conservative American, when they're saying we're for inclusion and against discrimination,
00:22:43.380 typically what we mean is that we should include people of all races and sexual orientations and gender
00:22:52.080 identities and disabilities and so on, insofar as we are judging everyone by the same standards of merit.
00:23:04.500 So typically what is meant is that we shouldn't discriminate, we shouldn't discriminate against them
00:23:09.560 because of things they cannot control, they should all be judged by the same standard, which is the
00:23:14.800 qualifications with the abilities that they bring to the table. But it's important to understand there are
00:23:20.160 different kinds of discrimination. And Thomas Sowell talks about this in his book, Discrimination and
00:23:25.740 Disparities. There's Discrimination 1, Discrimination 2. There's a certain kind of discrimination that we
00:23:30.340 just talked about, that everyone discriminates, every entity has to discriminate against people,
00:23:35.580 you have to exclude people. Because you have standards, some people don't meet those standards,
00:23:39.780 and so you don't hire those people, you don't include those people. And then there's the discrimination
00:23:44.120 that most people, most sane people are against, which is you should not discriminate against
00:23:49.220 someone because of their immutable characteristics. Unless, again, it's a Christian or religious
00:23:53.540 organization that says, well, you don't live in a way that aligns with our faith, and so we are going
00:23:58.400 to exclude you because of that, which actually would be some kind of qualification. So most people are
00:24:04.660 against that kind of discrimination. Like if you polled people on the left and the right, they would agree
00:24:10.320 that you shouldn't discriminate against a person for a job because of their immutable characteristics.
00:24:14.360 Sure, we can exclude people based on, you know, marital qualifications, but we shouldn't exclude someone
00:24:19.180 based on something that they can't control. Most people would probably even say, you shouldn't cease to be
00:24:22.980 friends with someone because of an innate characteristic. Most people would say, when it comes to marriage,
00:24:27.160 you shouldn't exclude someone as a prospect because of their race or disability. So most people, regardless
00:24:32.960 of political affiliation, would agree with this, or so it would seem.
00:24:38.100 However, as we've already touched on, when we talked about affirmative action and the kind of inclusion
00:24:42.800 exclusion that the left really means when they use these terms, the left and the right do not agree
00:24:47.840 on who should be discriminated against and how, because progressives are absolutely for racial
00:24:53.320 discrimination, as we just talked about, as long as the discrimination cuts in favor of Black Americans
00:24:58.020 and against whites and Asians, which is exactly what every single affirmative action policy does.
00:25:06.020 Progressives will apply different lower standards for Black people for the sake of inclusion,
00:25:12.800 inclusion and equity, even if it means that you are excluding other people who reach higher
00:25:21.740 standards. And so it is also, so is this kind of dissonance, this kind of hypocrisy, this kind of
00:25:29.140 duplicitousness from the left when it comes to inclusion. So it is when it comes to the inclusion of
00:25:35.480 so-called transgender people into sex-specific spaces. When a man who calls himself a woman,
00:25:42.280 a woman who gets to swim against women, that is excluding the right of a young woman to a fair
00:25:49.420 competition. Because as we've talked about so many times, men, regardless of their hormone therapy,
00:25:56.540 regardless of the length of their hair or the nail polish they wear, or the name they decide to be
00:26:02.420 called by, have a larger heart. They have greater lung capacity. They have greater bone density,
00:26:07.380 more muscle mass than women, which translates into even amateur male athletes being faster and stronger
00:26:14.000 than elite male athletes. Study after study proves this. No amount of propaganda is ever going to change
00:26:18.640 it. As I like to say, human nature, truth in general, is like a beach ball. And ideologues,
00:26:24.440 activists, crazy people can keep trying to push that beach ball underwater. It's going to eventually
00:26:30.260 pop back up. So by including a man in women's sports, you've excluded a woman's ability to compete
00:26:38.580 fairly. When you include a man in a woman's locker room or bathroom, you've excluded a woman's right
00:26:43.660 to not have to see or be seen by or be next to a naked man. We used to think that a woman had a right
00:26:51.060 not to be sexually harassed. And now apparently women don't have that right. And you hear there are
00:26:58.080 activists. They're anti-trans or I don't know if it's anti-trans. I guess it's more just like pro
00:27:03.380 sex protected spaces activists who identify as lesbians who often call out these pro-transgender
00:27:12.700 LGBTQ groups that say that it is bigotry for a lesbian not to want to date or be with a man who
00:27:23.760 identifies as a woman, that that's some form of bigotry. And so you're supposed to, that's another
00:27:31.520 thing. Or let's just use like a person who is attracted to the opposite sex. If you are to
00:27:39.760 include, if it is inclusive to include so-called transgender people in your dating pool, then that
00:27:48.240 means that you are no longer heterosexual because you are being forced for the sake of empathy and
00:27:54.740 inclusion or you are being pressured for the sake of empathy and inclusion to date a woman who identifies
00:28:02.940 as a man if you are a woman. And we are told that that is what you have to do in order to be inclusive
00:28:09.600 and empathetic. You are excluding your right, your ability to actually be with someone that you are
00:28:17.880 attracted to and you cease to be the thing that you are. You see the problem with unconditional and
00:28:24.400 unfettered inclusion that it in itself is not a value. And that's what happens when for the sake of
00:28:29.880 inclusion, you are erasing the biological distinctions of male and female. When you refuse, for example, to say
00:28:35.320 that only women, exclusively women, have uteruses and can't give birth and only men, exclusively men,
00:28:41.560 have testicles and you instead say, well, actually women can have a penis and men can give birth,
00:28:48.280 then you no longer have any justification for the separation or the special protection of the sexes.
00:28:55.000 That's a problem, not just when it comes to female athletics, not just when it comes to female locker
00:28:59.720 rooms and bathrooms, although those spaces are really important, but also in domestic abuse shelters
00:29:04.680 where women should be protected against men. Yes, even men who say that they are women and they
00:29:11.320 need to be protected in prisons right now in states like Washington, in Oregon, in California. I'm pretty
00:29:18.740 sure this is true in Canada. I'd be shocked if it weren't that a man who identifies as a woman, even if
00:29:24.440 he has a history of domestic violence, even if he has a history of pedophilia, the worst kinds of sexual
00:29:29.560 predation and abuse that you can possibly think of. If he says that he is a man, there is no
00:29:34.520 hormone requirement, there is no kind of scientific requirement or surgery requirement or anything
00:29:40.200 for that man to then be transferred to a woman's prison just because he says he's a woman.
00:29:45.040 That's what postmodernism does. Postmodernism, which says there really is no truth except for
00:29:49.380 your truth, except for what you decide is true. There is no objective reality. There is no science
00:29:55.800 that can be easily comprehended. Everything is something that is kind of intangible and only
00:30:02.220 these activist ideological academics can really tell you what's true. And these ideological activist
00:30:09.260 academics who have pointless degrees in gender studies, they are saying with their fake authority
00:30:17.640 that for a man to be a woman, all he has to do is say that he's a woman. That's the problem
00:30:22.360 with credentialism. That is the problem with postmodernism. And that is, of course, in essence,
00:30:29.700 a product of godlessness because God is the source of all truth. And scripture tells us who he made us
00:30:38.060 as, which is male and female. So of course, when you abandon God, you're going to end up abandoning
00:30:42.020 truth. Even the most obvious truth that there is a separation and distinction, an important distinction
00:30:47.100 between men and women and women because we are the weaker sex. I know that some people say this is
00:30:53.540 internalized misogyny or this is whatever it is. This is some kind of sexism to say women are
00:31:02.620 physically weaker. On average, the vast majority of us are shorter and smaller and weaker. We have
00:31:08.820 smaller bones. We have less muscle mass. We don't have as much aggression because we don't have as much
00:31:14.320 testosterone. We are weaker and we are subject to male predation. That's why the vast majority of
00:31:22.300 domestic abuse victims of rape victims are women. And the vast majority of people who are perpetrating
00:31:29.160 those crimes are men. That's not a coincidence. That's not societal conditioning. That's not some
00:31:34.800 kind of stereotype. That's been true for all of human history. And yet that is the consequence of
00:31:43.660 unfettered inclusion. Unfettered inclusion means that you are unable to create safe spaces,
00:31:52.080 something that I thought the left cared about, but they're really only talking about the danger of
00:31:56.300 hurt feelings. They're not talking about the danger of hurt bodies of women who are forced into prisons
00:32:01.820 with men who identify as women. Unfettered inclusion excludes our ability to protect the most vulnerable,
00:32:10.400 to protect women and children. And that is why, once again, the church should be not just a refuge for
00:32:19.620 these women and children, but a beacon of light and of clarity. That's actually why it matters so much,
00:32:27.540 guys, that our language is clear, that we don't give in on the pronoun stuff, that we refuse to call a man
00:32:34.480 she or her, that we refuse to call a woman he or him, even if that is their identity, because we deny
00:32:41.740 that it is possible to identify as something other than what the body that God gave you says that you
00:32:48.900 are. There is no biblical or scientific truly category of gender identity as something that is a
00:32:55.380 departure or detached from sex. And so because we believe that God is good, because we believe that
00:33:02.980 he is the creator of the universe and he is the authority over right and wrong, what's good and
00:33:08.660 what's bad, what's true and what's false, because we believe the first chapter of the Bible, that God
00:33:14.060 made us in his image, male and female, because we believe that and we know that he is love, 1 John 4, 8,
00:33:23.000 therefore everything that he says, everything that he designs, everything that he defines, everything
00:33:27.800 that he includes or excludes is all done and said from love, because we know that and we know therefore
00:33:34.860 that we cannot out-love God, we cannot out-truth God, we cannot out-smart God, we cannot out-justice
00:33:41.120 God. It is the most loving thing that we can do to agree with him. Therefore, the most loving thing
00:33:46.180 that we can do is affirm that God made us male and female, not just because of all of the very tangible
00:33:52.500 and physical and psychological consequences that this ideology is placing on young people,
00:33:57.820 but also just because it's obedience. What does Jesus say loving God looks like? Obeying
00:34:03.500 his commandments. It's not unfettered inclusion. It's not unconditional empathy. It is not the
00:34:09.860 abandonment of truth because you want to make someone feel comfortable. I'm not saying we should
00:34:14.020 be unnecessarily harsh or brutal in our language. I'm not saying that, but I am saying that the truth
00:34:19.780 cannot be extracted from biblical love. What does 1 Corinthians 13 say? As we talked about last week,
00:34:28.780 love, biblical love, the only true kind of love that exists, rejoices in the truth. It doesn't
00:34:33.820 rejoice in wrongdoing. It rejoices with the truth. And we've also talked about, which we won't get into
00:34:39.860 right now, the dark roots, the demonic history of this gender ideology that I think that if we knew
00:34:46.460 the connections, this ideology and the people who started this ideology, the people that were on the
00:34:51.960 front lines of this activism, if we knew the true nefarious motivations and the perversion that is
00:34:58.320 innate in this ideology, we would realize that the people who are a part of it today, they have actually
00:35:05.560 fallen prey to its predation. And the most loving thing that we can do if we want to be lovers of
00:35:11.940 justice, lovers of true liberation, liberation from sin, is speak the truth clearly in love.
00:35:18.240 The church has always been, at her best, a refuge for the most vulnerable, which throughout history
00:35:24.600 has been mostly women and children. And we're still seeing that today in new ways. We're seeing new
00:35:31.660 forms of child sacrifice. We're seeing new forms of female subjugation. And so the church needs to
00:35:37.900 take up the torch that has always taken up, that it has always been our role to be a beacon of truth,
00:35:46.100 to be a lighthouse in the storm, to be a refuge of clarity. The world is so confusing and chaotic
00:35:52.380 and turbulent. Let us be a refuge of clarity for people who are confused. You cannot do that unless
00:35:58.940 you are speaking clearly. Do not fall into the trap of saying, well, we just have to be inclusive
00:36:04.560 and loving or inclusive and empathetic. We should be loving, truly biblically loving.
00:36:10.260 But don't buy into the trap that true biblical love means unfettered, unconditional, worldly
00:36:15.120 inclusion and empathy because it doesn't. These things can actually be inhibitors of true biblical
00:36:21.340 love of the most vulnerable. Okay, guys, that's all we've got for today. Thank you so much for
00:36:29.340 listening. As usual, we will be back here tomorrow with a fun Q&A that I know that you guys are going
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