Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 614 ｜ Bye Bye, Target. You Crossed the Line

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00:00:23.540 All right guys, today I am going to talk to you about something that is going to be

00:00:30.000 very difficult for our demographic to hear. And by our demographic, I am talking about

00:00:36.340 women ages 25 to 45. That's the majority of people who listen to this podcast. I understand

00:00:44.720 there are people who are younger than that, older than that. There are men who listen to this

00:00:48.780 podcast, but that is the largest chunk of my podcast audience. And we also happen to be the

00:00:55.260 largest chunk of Target shoppers. And today we are going to talk about the absolutely

00:01:02.240 disgusting display that Target has currently and will have for Pride Month. I'm not talking about

00:01:11.600 your typical, you know, rainbow shirts and things like that. I am talking about some really, really

00:01:18.480 disturbing clothing items that are being advertised, not just for adults, but also for children. And

00:01:27.460 like, this is it. This is it for me. Maybe I should have stopped shopping at Target a long time ago. I

00:01:33.080 just realized that this shirt that I'm wearing is actually from Target, but from a long time ago.

00:01:37.600 And maybe I should have realized, you know, several, several years back that Target is not a place where I

00:01:44.860 should be shopping. I know a lot of you have not been shopping at Target because of the values that

00:01:50.000 they have been purporting for the past several years. However, it's, you know, it's a weakness of

00:01:55.840 mine. And I think it's a weakness of a lot of yours too, because they have a lot of great home decor.

00:02:00.340 They have very affordable clothing. It's just kind of a fun place to go to spend your afternoon with

00:02:06.720 your children. It's a thing to do. It becomes like kind of a social event. And yet this is it for me.

00:02:13.500 This has to be it for me, because if there are two hills that I will fight on, in addition to the

00:02:22.920 fundamental hill, obviously of the gospel, but two lesser hills that we talk about so much, one of

00:02:28.840 them is abortion, literally a matter of life and death. And the other one is this absolutely destructive

00:02:39.200 gender ideology, especially when it targets children. And that's what we're focusing on today

00:02:46.120 in relation to our beloved Target. This is just the final straw for me. I can't, I just cannot,

00:02:54.560 I can't shop there anymore as much as I want to. This is just too much. So let me read you about what

00:02:59.920 is going on. And then we're going to talk about like why this is happening. What's behind this?

00:03:06.980 There is a company that is behind this collaboration. We're going to look at them a little

00:03:11.080 bit more, what other companies they're partnering with. And then we're also going to be reminded of

00:03:16.260 the history of this ideology and why exactly I think it's so damaging. Obviously, you know why from

00:03:22.920 a biblical perspective, because we've talked about it so much, but physically, tangibly, like the effect

00:03:27.980 that this ideology, that these so-called gender fluid ideas are having on children and why it is so

00:03:34.480 profoundly disturbing that Target is playing a part in this. So this is according to Bustle.com. Of

00:03:39.760 course, they're excited about the partnership that they're writing about. Quote, Target partnered

00:03:44.140 with Tomboy X and Humankind, two queer-owned, female-founded brands to create these much-needed

00:03:51.440 lines. Interesting that they are able to actually define and care about female. The Tomboy X collab

00:03:58.480 features undergarments like compression tops, a comfortable alternative to chest binders,

00:04:06.420 as well as packing underwear. We're going to talk about what these things are. Bras and boy shorts

00:04:12.020 in size small to 4X. Humankind's line, on the other hand, includes various swimsuit styles,

00:04:18.640 such as swim trunks, tops, and unisuits, as binders and gender-affirming swimsuits are notoriously

00:04:25.000 difficult to find, particularly in extended sizes. This accessible drop will make shopping for everyday

00:04:33.120 garments much, much easier. So let's talk about what some of these things are. This is not, by the way,

00:04:40.840 they're talking about this being like a pride line, but this is supposed to be trans-inclusive. So

00:04:46.940 people who believe that they are the opposite sex and want to present themselves as the opposite sex,

00:04:52.260 these garments, and in particular undergarments, are for that purpose. So I'm going to put some of

00:04:59.240 these items up on the screen if you're watching this on YouTube. If not, I will just describe them

00:05:05.740 to you. All right, so this is, this is billed as the Pride Adult Tomboy X compression top. So a compression

00:05:15.340 top, this is a woman who wants to identify as and look like a man. They, or I guess a girl who wants

00:05:24.460 to look like a boy. They don't want their breasts to show. They want to look flat-chested like a boy.

00:05:31.040 And so sometimes these women and girls who want to look like the opposite sex, they will actually

00:05:36.760 bind their breasts. And so they will use different tools and material to try to bind their breasts

00:05:44.800 down to their chest and make themselves look as flat as possible. But apparently an alternative to

00:05:49.980 that is super, super tight compression tops that flatten your breasts so you don't actually have

00:05:57.060 to do the physical wrapping. So in addition to just sounding really uncomfortable, any girl who has worn

00:06:04.400 a sports bra that is too tight, you can imagine walking around like this all day is really, it's really

00:06:10.820 hard to breathe like that. It's really hard to move like that. It's really hard to function in a normal

00:06:15.760 way when you are wearing something that doesn't fit you. So I can't imagine that this is actually

00:06:20.720 comfortable. And it's not just that. There are actually side effects. There are actually physical

00:06:26.880 issues and consequences that can come from binding and too tight compression. But first, like, let's just

00:06:34.260 establish this is obvious wickedness, encouraging and commodifying the hatred of and manipulation

00:06:38.500 of the female body is absolutely wicked. It's so ironic in an age where we are telling people to

00:06:46.220 love yourself, to just accept yourself that God made you perfect the way you are. Apparently that

00:06:51.580 excludes your body if your mind is confused. I mean, that's actually hatred. That's actually self-hatred

00:06:59.520 of your body. Why isn't the loving thing to do to encourage someone to reconcile their mind with their

00:07:06.820 body? So they don't try to hide or shame or mutilate their body. Why are we trying to encourage people

00:07:13.620 to reconcile their body with their mind by body mutilation and with shame and with different kinds

00:07:19.680 of tools that actually have physical negative consequences? So best case scenario, I was researching

00:07:26.080 this. If you are binding or tightly compressing your breasts because you want to look like a man,

00:07:31.520 you've got rashes, you've got trouble breathing, you've got possible disfigurement of your breasts,

00:07:36.000 worst case scenario, you've got scarring, you've got nerve damage. And so your breasts can actually

00:07:41.280 be numb when they're not supposed to be numb. You've got the possibility of broken ribs. There

00:07:48.000 is a subreddit called Detrans. So these are people who once transitioned to the opposite sex or, you know,

00:07:57.280 by transition, I mean they tried to present themselves as the opposite sex. Either they just

00:08:01.540 change their name and their pronouns and what they wore or they actually went through surgery either

00:08:08.400 on top by if they're a woman removing their breasts or complete surgery top and bottom whether

00:08:14.240 you are male or female to try to look like the opposite sex. And these are people who typically

00:08:18.760 really regret going through that transition and then detransitioned to their actual sex later on.

00:08:26.540 And they are very honest about the struggles. They're very honest about just the manipulation

00:08:30.780 and the lack of care that they received during the transition process most of the time. And these

00:08:36.580 are also moms and friends of people who have transitioned who are trying to get insight and

00:08:41.880 help and camaraderie to try to understand kind of what is going on in the minds of the people that

00:08:47.660 they love who are considering transition. And so I was looking at this subreddit and there are quite

00:08:54.280 a few posts talking about the problems with chest binding and compression. It might seem like something

00:09:00.200 that's harmless or something that's completely reversible and doesn't have consequences, but it

00:09:05.260 actually does. And these are from people who used to do it. These are from people, these complaints are

00:09:10.180 from people who have experienced this themselves. And so this is one post on Reddit, quote,

00:09:16.300 I believe that for many people, binding makes existing chest dysphoria worse, not better.

00:09:21.520 So chest dysphoria would be if you are a woman who wants to be a man, you look at your breasts and

00:09:26.340 you feel dysphoric, you feel confused, you feel distressed because of that, because you want to be

00:09:30.500 the opposite sex. And so this person is saying it actually makes it worse. Once you see yourself with

00:09:35.360 a flat chest, it needs to be flatter. It becomes so much more offensive to your senses to see your

00:09:40.020 unbound chest when you've experienced hiding it with a degree of success. And I think that while

00:09:45.200 sometimes painful, the pressure of the binder can become addictive in its own way, self-soothing

00:09:49.780 in the same way as a tight hug or a weighted blanket. I can absolutely see something like that,

00:09:55.240 especially someone who is experiencing psychological distress. Like when you think about a child,

00:10:01.040 one way that you can call them a child is by swaddling them. It is almost like, it's almost like

00:10:05.660 that. It's almost like a form of a swaddle for someone who is trying to find comfort in their own

00:10:11.140 body. Gosh, there's so many psychological pieces of this that I just feel like are not being properly

00:10:16.880 dealt with. So this poster goes on to say, binding also harms breasts, of course. And when breasts look

00:10:24.060 and feel worse than they did before because of sagging and or texture changes, of course, that's

00:10:29.180 the consequence of binding. That can heighten awareness of them and intensify dysphoria as well.

00:10:34.400 And then once you start binding, it can be difficult to stop for so many reasons. Binding is something that

00:10:39.440 is suggested even to people who have not previously considered medical transition. And I just kind of

00:10:44.680 wish it wasn't such an encouraged option. It's an easy slide for someone questioning to start binding

00:10:50.120 and have an increase in dysphoria because of binding that leads to persisting in a trans identity that

00:10:56.980 may not be right for them and to pursuing medical interventions that may not have, they may not have

00:11:03.620 even considered beforehand. This person says, if I hadn't been able to get myself a binder that people

00:11:11.380 said was a safe option, if I hadn't believed it was a harmless and reversible presentation change,

00:11:17.600 I could just try out to alleviate dysphoria. I think I would still have my breasts and might have

00:11:26.000 made peace with them in other ways. Wow, that's so sad. So binding can actually lead someone to

00:11:35.020 believing that they just need to permanently lop off their breasts. And that's what happened to this

00:11:40.180 person. She regrets it. Even if you can get reconstruction surgery, women who have had double

00:11:45.360 mastectomies because of cancer know this, and you get fake breasts, it's not the same thing. You don't have

00:11:51.760 the same nerve endings. And if you're a young person and you decide one day that you want to have

00:11:55.800 children and you want to breastfeed, well, you can't do that because you've had all of your milk

00:12:00.560 ducks taken out. I mean, this is a permanent change for, in most cases, temporary distress over

00:12:09.280 someone's body. So Target is promoting a device that can hurt the female body, lead to more psychological

00:12:15.780 distress, and encourage women to get a double mastectomy of their healthy breasts. That's what's going on

00:12:21.460 with Target. So this is from another user on the D-Trans subreddit that says, quote,

00:12:28.600 I think about people in my past sometimes and I get so angry that they encourage me to mutate my body

00:12:33.780 in order to fit some standard. They said the idea of being happy with their own bodies was so alien to

00:12:39.060 them. I never even wanted to be a guy, but I was told that's what my feelings and my gender meant.

00:12:44.100 I'm so tired of people acting like it's okay to strap down your chest for hours at any cost. Chest

00:12:49.700 binding is self-harm. You are actually crushing all the structures inside and impeding circulation.

00:12:56.260 I don't honestly believe there's any safe way to bind your chest. My chest is numb and gets sharp

00:13:02.320 nerve pains. And so Target, a clothing, I mean, a big box store, a clothing company is creating or is

00:13:14.680 encouraging young women to bind their chest to compress their chest in a way that could have very

00:13:23.260 negative long-term consequences. And is Target going to pick up the pieces of the distress that

00:13:30.700 these women are going to feel one day? Are they going to be the ones to pay for their surgeries? Are

00:13:36.200 they going to be the ones who are holding that person as they are looking in the mirror and to stress

00:13:42.300 that their breasts are now disfigured? Of course not. Target doesn't care about that. They're looking

00:13:46.880 to capitalize on this trend. They don't care at all that there could be negative consequences. They

00:13:52.520 don't care at all that they are simultaneously selling shirts that tell you to love yourself and

00:13:56.980 accept yourself the way that you are and also selling clothing items that are actually a form of

00:14:02.200 self-hatred and self-harm. They don't care. They're making money. That's what this is all about.

00:14:06.400 This is evil. God made your body good. Your breasts are good. If you are a woman, your anatomy is good,

00:14:12.900 no matter what gender you are. It is good to be a boy. It is good to be a girl. It is good to be a

00:14:18.260 man. It is good to be a woman. These things are determined by your DNA. At the point of conception,

00:14:23.180 these things are determined by your biology. Your body tells you who you are. Your mind doesn't get to

00:14:31.440 tell your body who it is. Your body actually tells your mind a big part of who you are. And shame on

00:14:37.960 anyone who places any doubt in your mind about that or makes you feel ashamed of your body or

00:14:44.160 confuses you or, God forbid, confuses a child about what it means to be male or female. Gender dysphoria

00:14:50.380 is real. It's extremely rare, but in actuality, it is real. But widespread confusion that is masquerading

00:14:59.600 as gender dysphoria because of the pervasive propaganda in media and in schools these days,

00:15:04.120 that is also unfortunately real. These people need professional help. As rare as it is these days,

00:15:10.780 but they need help to make their mind be at peace with their body, the body that God gave them,

00:15:18.800 rather than getting so-called help from someone who is telling them to mutilate their body in a vain

00:15:24.420 attempt to make peace with their mind. That's what you're hearing from these people who

00:15:29.640 detransitioned. They are saying, why couldn't someone just help me make peace with the body

00:15:36.080 that I had? Why didn't someone tell me to just be grateful for my body? Why did people push me

00:15:41.580 into mutilation and really harmful behavior? Now, that's not all Target is selling. Target is also selling

00:15:48.240 packing underwear. So I didn't know what this was, but it is apparently for women who want to wear

00:15:55.440 a prosthetic penis. And I will put the picture of this product up. I'm very just, I'm just still

00:16:03.400 very confused. This is again by Tomboy X. This is Pride Adult Tomboy X packing underwear. Very

00:16:09.500 disturbing. And then they also have these boy shorts, which funny, funny that they are called

00:16:18.340 boy shorts. Why are they called boy shorts? I thought that they could be any gender who wore

00:16:23.160 this stuff. Pride Adult Tomboy X boy shorts. And then the model is obviously a woman who had a

00:16:30.040 double mastectomy because you see the scars and who has been on testosterone. It's very sad. It's just

00:16:35.120 evil, horrendous stuff. And you know, the left likes to say, oh, the right has changed. The right

00:16:41.720 has become so much more radical. Well, empirically, that's just not true. I used to talk about in almost

00:16:47.800 all of my speeches, this 2017 Pew Research study that showed polarization in politics and tracked

00:16:54.000 how Democrats have changed on political and cultural issues since the early 90s and how the right has

00:17:01.680 changed. The reality is, is that the left has moved left on almost every single issue and the right

00:17:07.020 has either stayed the same or moved slightly left on almost every single issue. I mean, think about

00:17:12.200 things like gay marriage. You will not find very many Republicans, especially Republicans in Congress

00:17:19.000 who would say that they want to defend traditional marriage, especially on the legal level. Whereas,

00:17:24.760 you know, 10 years ago, that was a very normal thing for people to believe. That was a normal

00:17:29.220 thing in 2008 for Barack Obama to go to Rick Warren's church in California and to say during

00:17:35.780 his campaign that he believes marriage is defined by male and female, one man and one woman. And he

00:17:40.920 got a roaring applause. That was in 2008. There could never be a Democrat candidate today who could say

00:17:46.440 that he believes in traditional marriage. There really couldn't even be a Republican candidate

00:17:50.360 to run for national office who wouldn't get huge backlash, even from the conservative Republican

00:17:56.000 side if they campaigned on traditional marriage. So the left has moved to the left. The right has

00:18:04.180 even moved a little bit to the left. And for anyone on the left to say, no, the right, they've gotten

00:18:09.780 radical. They've changed their position. That is absolutely not true. Like, let's think about this.

00:18:14.780 If Target was even doing this five years ago, it just wouldn't have been acceptable. They just

00:18:19.860 wouldn't have done it. Ten years ago, I think people wouldn't have even been able to have the

00:18:25.440 words to understand what is going on here. I mean, the Overton window has shifted so much. It just

00:18:33.460 doesn't. It just blows my mind when people want to say that conservatives are the ones who have

00:18:38.280 changed. No, the country has changed by getting much more progressive, much more radically to the left

00:18:45.780 and to our detriment. And look, Target doesn't just have adults or adult clothing. They also have

00:18:52.560 kids clothing. So I'll put some pictures up. This sweet girl was made to wear this t-shirt that says

00:19:00.940 she, her, they, them, he, him, us. Like what? Like kids of this age are still learning proper pronoun

00:19:08.800 usage. They are still learning the differences between male and female. I've said this before,

00:19:14.060 but it is so important, especially for kids to know the difference between male and female and

00:19:19.060 to be able to have the words to say, that's a man, that's a woman, a woman is a she, a man is a he,

00:19:25.780 that's a mister, that's a missus. The reason that's important is one, just for understanding

00:19:30.320 language and for understanding context. The world, as you can imagine, is very overwhelming,

00:19:36.680 but especially for a child because everything is new to them. And so the natural part of child

00:19:41.400 development and you really, you don't have to be some kind of pediatric specialist or psychologist

00:19:45.700 to understand that. You can just observe a child and you see this. They are constantly trying to

00:19:50.700 name things. They are constantly trying in those toddler years to categorize things, to put things

00:19:56.480 into context that we do this at this time, or this is when or how or why we do this. This is when we see

00:20:03.840 this person. This is what kind of person this is. This is where this person lives. And it's so

00:20:09.520 important for kids to be able to make their world smaller and more comprehensible and understandable.

00:20:16.660 And that includes the category of male and female. I've talked about before how my toddler really

00:20:21.860 without us even specifically telling her, hey, this is that that's a man, that's a woman. She just knows

00:20:28.780 she just sees it. And she points that out. She loves she loves to observe that she points out that's a

00:20:33.940 man, that's a woman, that's two women. I mean, that's just something that she does because kids like

00:20:38.560 observing. They like putting things in categories. They like to be able to tell what something is.

00:20:43.360 But look, this is important for a much deeper and more serious reason here. It is important also for

00:20:50.420 cases of sexual assault when it comes to children. A child needs to be able to describe the person who

00:20:59.040 victimized them. They need to be able to, at a certain age, define body parts and assign those body

00:21:05.720 parts to a particular gender. This is really important for when a kid is describing to a parent

00:21:12.920 or to a caretaker what happened to them. What kind of person hurt you? What did that person say?

00:21:21.160 What did that person look like? Especially if it's, you know, a stranger in a bathroom or something.

00:21:26.280 Like, they need to be able to say, oh, it was a woman. This is what that person looked like.

00:21:32.720 They need to be able to have the language and the understanding to be able to report those kinds

00:21:38.960 of things. And so we are not only just placing linguistic confusion in children's mind, but we

00:21:47.780 are also taking away all of the categories and the context and the definitions that help them make

00:21:53.200 sense of the world and make sense of who they are. And we are also taking away one safeguard when it

00:21:58.700 comes to reporting of inappropriate behavior towards them by an adult. Like, this is all a

00:22:06.560 problem and Target is promoting it. She, her, they, them, he, him, us. What are you even talking about?

00:22:14.500 Like, as we've talked about so many times, gender is not an identity that you get to choose. It's just

00:22:20.480 not. You can think the things that you want to think. You can have the confusion in your head that

00:22:24.680 you want to have. And I think that there should be abundant compassion for you. But gender is

00:22:29.540 something that is. People say gender is a social construct. One of these t-shirts says gender is a

00:22:36.240 social construct and sex is something that you were born with. But that's not accurate. Sex and gender

00:22:42.940 are actually interchangeable. Gender, genetics. Gender is genetic. They got the first three words the

00:22:51.200 same for a reason. Gender is in your DNA from the moment of conception. And from a biblical perspective,

00:22:57.580 we see first chapter of the Bible, Genesis 127, God made them male and female, male and female. He

00:23:03.300 created them in his image. We are created male and female. So being made in God's image is to be made

00:23:09.480 male or female. And that means that if someone is denying the reality of the biological categories of

00:23:16.140 male and female, you're denying the reality of being made in God's image. And that means you're

00:23:21.580 denying the essence of humanity itself. This is no question. There's no nuance. There's no complicated

00:23:28.140 aspect here for the Christian. The first chapter, one of the first verses of the Bible, makes this very

00:23:34.380 clear. We also see in that first chapter of the Bible that we as humans are not self-identifying

00:23:39.160 creatures. We are not self-creating. We don't get to choose who we are by self-declaration,

00:23:44.580 but that God made us and tells us who we are. He doesn't give Adam and Eve the option to choose

00:23:48.600 their gender. He says, this is who you are. I created you this way. Even before you had any

00:23:54.220 consciousness of your body or your nakedness, he created them male and female. And so because we

00:24:02.600 believe the very first verse of the first chapter of the first book of the Bible that God created the

00:24:09.300 heavens and the earth, we submit to his authority. We submit to his creation. He tells us who we are.

00:24:13.580 And before you say anything about, well, what about intersex? Yes, those people are made in the image

00:24:19.000 of God, and they're not not male or female, by the way. And that is not the same thing as

00:24:23.860 transgender. They are also, by the way, an exception to the rule in the same way that a human being that

00:24:30.540 is born with one leg doesn't negate the fact that human beings are bipeds. So intersex people don't

00:24:35.260 negate the gender binary that biologically exists. So all of this, the target is promoting is just chaos

00:24:41.360 and absolute confusion. And then there was this picture. I just thought that this was weird. It's

00:24:45.920 obviously there is an agenda towards the feminization of boys specifically. There is this picture that

00:24:54.040 I'll put up. It says, boys, precious moments, love is love t-shirt. Now, all of the other so-called pride

00:25:01.900 collection t-shirts just say, these are kids' shirts or this is, you know, it can be anyone. Any gender can wear

00:25:07.820 the shirt? Well, this specifically says that it is a boys' precious moments, love is love t-shirt.

00:25:13.820 Why is it a boys' precious moments t-shirt when it is obviously very feminine? I mean, you've got two

00:25:18.540 girls riding a bike on there. There's a rainbow. It says, in pink, love is love. This is obviously

00:25:24.680 supposed to be a very feminine shirt. And Target specifically points out that this is a boys'

00:25:30.540 precious moments t-shirt plus $16.98 for this. Are you kidding me? That is way, way too expensive.

00:25:36.560 And then we've got this other picture of this, like, precious little smiling child. I think the

00:25:43.780 point is that we're not supposed to be able to tell if this is a boy or a girl. This kid has short

00:25:49.160 hair, is, I guess, presenting like a boy, but also he is wearing, he, she is wearing a skirt. I think

00:25:55.160 the point is that you're not supposed to be able to tell, which that in itself is very disturbing.

00:26:00.180 And this child is wearing a shirt that says trans rights are human rights. This is just so sad. This

00:26:08.460 is so sad. I'm going to get into more of why this is so disturbing for me in the background on all this

00:26:13.220 in just one second. So this is all, as we said, very confusing for kids. This is the power of

00:26:20.500 suggestion, as we've talked about before. The road, this is a road towards depression and distress

00:26:26.940 and body mutilation and sexual confusion. That target is helping put kids down. The power of

00:26:35.220 suggestion is so strong. I saw this terrible video from Lifts of TikTok, this teacher who says that

00:26:41.160 she's a fourth grade teacher. And she said, a lot of my, a lot of my students are queer because I am

00:26:47.080 queer. Yeah, that is also why like a, such a huge percentage of Generation Z now says they identify

00:26:55.360 as LGBTQ. It's not because, oh, society has become more accepting. So people who genuinely have this

00:27:01.720 identities feel free to come out. It is actually because of the social contagion aspect of this,

00:27:07.700 because it has become a trend, because they're seeing it on social media, because it is suggested

00:27:11.840 to them, especially for young kids. The power of suggestion is almost irresistible. When you have

00:27:17.780 someone in authority that you were told that you have to please, that you have to obey, that you

00:27:21.540 have to submit to, when that person suggests to a child who is so malleable, who is so immature,

00:27:27.480 who is so emotional and naturally wants to please that, hey, it's a possibility that you might be born

00:27:33.260 in the wrong body. And if you are, we're going to clap for you and celebrate you and read books about

00:27:37.500 other people who share your identity. Yeah, a lot of kids are going to latch onto that.

00:27:41.840 And to anyone who says, oh, no, no, no, gender identity in kids and kids believing that they're

00:27:46.640 the opposite gender, that's totally organic. That's totally something that's just happening

00:27:50.340 to all of these kids. There's no social contagion here. I mean, you're out of your mind. And I

00:27:56.480 honestly think that there is some predatory aspect to your thinking there. I just do. I know there was

00:28:02.900 a whole debate about what grooming is and what's not grooming. I'm sorry, it is. It is a form of

00:28:09.600 grooming to try to convince or to suggest to kids that they were born in the wrong body. And it's

00:28:13.980 creepy as heck because you are encouraging kids to think about their to think about their private

00:28:20.100 parts and to think about private parts in general and like what that means about their potential gender

00:28:26.140 and sexual identity. You don't have a role as a teacher to play there. You just don't. And if you

00:28:32.620 are having these conversations at all, but especially without the informed consent or

00:28:38.780 presence of an adult, yeah, that's grooming. I'm sorry. It is. That's what it is. You can be

00:28:43.540 offended by that. The Washington Post and the New York Times and Bustle and Huffington Post can all

00:28:48.540 come to your defense and say it's really the right freaking out about this. That's the problem.

00:28:52.860 That is grooming. I don't care. I don't care what you say. I'm going to keep calling it that

00:28:57.560 because that's exactly what it is. And again, I want to ask this question, like who's going to

00:29:03.840 help these kids? Who's going to help these kids when they are growing up and they are working

00:29:08.360 through their distress and their confusion and their regret and the physical harm? Is it going

00:29:13.200 to be Target? Is it going to be these clothing brands? Is it going to be the teachers and the

00:29:17.080 psychologists and the hormone doctors pushing this stuff? Is it going to be the politicians pushing

00:29:21.640 this stuff that are going to be there to hold them when they are broken because of the crushing

00:29:27.620 weight of this ideology and the confusion that it causes? No, no, none of those entities are going

00:29:32.700 to care. It's going to be the parents. It's going to be the parents who were told to shut up. It's

00:29:36.600 going to be the parents who were told that if they don't go along with this stuff, their child would

00:29:39.960 kill themselves. Parents who are being bullied, who are being manipulated by that kind of rhetoric.

00:29:43.940 They're being convinced by strangers at gender clinics and activists online that they don't know

00:29:49.060 their child and that only these strangers know their child and they know what's best. And who is

00:29:54.540 picking up the pieces when it's all said and done? The parents. And then the child who is dealing with

00:30:00.440 all of this, who has put on puberty blockers, whose brain and whose body never normally developed.

00:30:05.660 They are actually leaving their mental and physical growth stunted in a variety of ways because of

00:30:13.040 puberty blockers that usually happen because they were suggested some form of confusion before

00:30:18.640 they went through puberty. In a way, the people whose puberty is blocked using hormone blockers

00:30:25.280 stay children forever. They are adolescent in a lot of ways forever. Their brain never goes through the

00:30:31.520 proper natural transition into adulthood that puberty affords a person. It's not just physical. It's also

00:30:37.560 mental what your entire body goes through in puberty. And not only that, but these young people who go on

00:30:43.920 puberty blockers are probably permanently sterile. Tell me, can you really consent when you are 10 years

00:30:50.660 old, when you're going on puberty blockers, to not being able to have children one day when you're 25?

00:30:56.800 Like, is your brain capable of making that decision? No. And again, do the doctors really care if these

00:31:04.040 kids are unable to have children one day? No. It doesn't affect them. They're making unbelievable amounts

00:31:09.280 of money. That's what this is all about. The pharmaceutical companies, these activist organizations,

00:31:13.720 these stores like Target, these entertainment companies are all making so much money by

00:31:17.760 capitalizing on this stuff. And who is left to suffer? Children. Children are always placed on the

00:31:24.320 altar of adults' whims, on adults' desires. They are always, as we always say, the unconsenting subjects

00:31:32.280 of progressive social experiments. And the people conducting the experiments are never the ones who have

00:31:37.060 to deal with the consequences. It's not just lifelong sterility we're talking about when kids are pushed

00:31:42.200 into this kind of stuff. It's not just the surgeries that these teens are undergoing, mastectomies,

00:31:46.640 chemical castration as young as 14 to 15 years old, sometimes without parental consent. It's not just

00:31:52.680 the permanent state of mental juvenility caused by the unnatural blocking of puberty. On top of all of

00:31:57.600 that and more, a lot of these people are never going to be able to experience sexual pleasure.

00:32:01.880 That's something that you see in the D-Trans Reddit and something that was recently admitted

00:32:07.600 by a person named Dr. Marcy Bowers. This is a man who has identified as a woman for a number of years

00:32:15.360 after he fathered three children. I think he was like 40 years old when he decided he was going to

00:32:19.800 be a woman. Dr. Bowers performs transgender surgeries even on teenagers. Bowers thinks that this

00:32:25.260 is all great. He thinks it's an exciting thing, this kind of transition. He's all for it,

00:32:29.760 all for puberty blockers for kids. He is extremely influential in this field,

00:32:33.940 but he recently admitted in a talk at Duke that one problem with blocking puberty for boys at

00:32:39.940 Tanner Stage 2, which is about 11 and a half years old, one of the problems is that they will never,

00:32:47.780 Dr. Bowers says, ever experience an orgasm. So listen to what he admits here publicly.

00:32:53.700 Every single child who was, or adolescent, who was truly blocked at Tanner Stage 2 has never experienced

00:33:02.220 orgasm. I mean, it's really about zero. Of course, these are just assigned male at birth,

00:33:08.540 so trans, feminine, and it's because they never in their lives are exposed to testosterone.

00:33:13.080 That doesn't change. So blockers prevent the rise of testosterone, and they don't really go on

00:33:22.500 testosterone at or around surgery or into adulthood. And so we don't know. They're going to have this

00:33:29.540 sensation. There's no question about that. But are they going to be able to achieve sexual

00:33:36.900 satisfaction? We need to have our eyes open about it. I think it's been beneficial talking about it.

00:33:42.360 Um, I know Joe and many others have, have reported to me, you know, they've, they've,

00:33:48.660 they have looked, they've changed their approach a little bit in their informed consent models and

00:33:53.080 that they're, we're talking about masturbation. Now we're talking about, okay, that's an area of

00:33:58.600 the body that's got very dysphoric for you, but you know what? It's all a penis is, it's just a large

00:34:05.140 clitoris. I mean, let's, we're all, it's all the same material. It really is. So, uh, so, you know,

00:34:12.840 use it for, for, for the pleasurable purposes, partially that it was intended and, uh, you know,

00:34:20.740 we'll see what happens, but these are, these are to be answered questions. So can we avoid puberty

00:34:27.140 and get good adult results? And secondly, how do we, how do we, uh, assure someone that they're

00:34:36.200 going to be able to be sexually responsive? Do we remove the blockers during the course of their

00:34:41.060 adolescence and let a little bit of puberty come back? Do we delay it a little bit, maybe into

00:34:46.760 Tanner's three or four, maybe before they have their first orgasms, maybe.

00:34:50.780 So you'll notice an interesting thing, uh, an interesting thing there, an admission that the

00:34:56.600 best thing for kids is actually to reconcile their dysphoric feelings with their body and just

00:35:04.280 live with that part of their body. Now he's completely wrong when he says that a penis is

00:35:09.280 no different, different than a clitoris. That's such a bizarre thing to say, but that's to be expected

00:35:13.640 by people who think that the body is just arbitrary and that it can just be whatever you want it to be

00:35:18.200 and identify however you want it to identify. But it truly is a stunning admission that kids are

00:35:22.440 being robbed of not just normal functioning bodies and all that comes with the natural puberty process,

00:35:27.520 but of the emotional, psychological, and physical benefits of intimacy. Now, some people are celibate

00:35:32.980 their whole lives. All right. That's one thing. But to basically make a kid, make a kid, a child,

00:35:39.840 a minor, a eunuch without his informed consent, that is just unconscionable. And you cannot really,

00:35:46.780 he talks about, Dr. Bowers talks about informed consent here. You can't, the kids can't really

00:35:52.340 give informed consent to this kind of stuff. Even if you list all of the consequences,

00:35:56.780 like all of the possible implications of the procedure that they're about to have long-term,

00:36:01.900 because their frontal lobe isn't developed, the frontal lobe is necessary for being able to see

00:36:07.380 the consequences of something, to be able to see a few steps down the road, to be able to see

00:36:14.400 what your actions today could cause in the future. Like young kids just, they literally don't have

00:36:21.020 the capability to wrap their minds around that, especially these kids who are distressed and

00:36:25.520 confused and psychologically disturbed anyway. I mean, all kids, all young people are hyper-emotional

00:36:31.580 and that is, that's okay. That's a good thing. That's, that's part of who they are. But that is

00:36:35.740 also why you see a lot of kids getting caught up in this social contagion, wanting acceptance,

00:36:40.300 wanting to be a part of a community that they find online, thinking that their feelings define

00:36:47.140 who they are. In a way, all teenagers kind of are led by their feelings. But in this sense,

00:36:53.100 you have teenagers who are led by their feelings into a doctor's office that are then lopping off

00:36:58.600 their penis and their breasts. I mean, that talk about long-term consequences. It is the adult's

00:37:04.280 responsibility, the parent's responsibility, the doctor's responsibility to say, you know what?

00:37:09.540 I have compassion for you. Let me work with you to try to get you to accept your body.

00:37:14.600 That's part of what Dr. Bowers is saying here. And I appreciate that as wrong as I believe that

00:37:19.200 he is philosophically and ideologically and as damage, as much damage as I think he has caused by

00:37:23.860 the treatments and the procedures that he has performed on young people. I'm glad that he is at

00:37:29.680 least caring that these kids aren't going to, these guys, these boys who want to be girls,

00:37:35.920 aren't going to be able to experience sexual pleasure, and that they are at least reevaluating

00:37:41.120 a little bit how much they push them into surgery, into puberty blockers. You know how we say

00:37:47.300 that kids can't consent to sex because it's true? Therefore, all sexual interaction between an adult

00:37:55.140 and child is rape and sexual assault because the minor just does not have the mental capacity to be

00:38:01.240 able to make an informed decision about that. Yeah, that also applies here. Like, duh. The only

00:38:07.100 reason people want to say it doesn't apply is because it's unpopular to do so and because their

00:38:12.480 mind is warped. And then there are also people with nefarious motivations to try to sexualize children

00:38:18.020 and to say that children do have the capacity to consent to something like this because they also

00:38:22.260 want to say that kids have the capacity to consent to adult-child sexual relationships.

00:38:26.960 So there's just, no matter how you slice it, it's bad. No matter how you slice it, it's bad. I have

00:38:33.420 no doubt that a lot of people in this industry and parents of these children are really well-meaning

00:38:39.160 and really think that they are doing the right thing. But the fact of the matter is, again, who was

00:38:44.700 left to pick up the pieces of this distress in the long run? It's not these psychologists and these

00:38:50.520 doctors that are pushing this kind of thing. It's so unbelievably damaging individually for

00:38:56.760 people, but also for society as a whole. Mental and moral anarchy, which we, I believe, have in

00:39:02.740 our country now. It creates instability societally. Unstable societies don't last because we can't

00:39:08.420 withstand opposition. We're a city without walls, literally and figuratively. We have no fortitude.

00:39:14.520 We have no courage, no values, nothing that unites us, nothing that holds us together. We are endlessly

00:39:19.560 obsessed with our own identities, and we are so confused about ourselves and the world that you're just not

00:39:25.540 even able to properly function, much less defend the values of your country. We're just confused and

00:39:33.180 limp and dependent and weak. And I've got to think that, at least from the top, that's part of what

00:39:39.320 all of this ideology is about. And might I remind you that the Biden administration publicly supports

00:39:45.180 transition, including medical transition for minors. They published an info sheet on the Health and

00:39:51.940 Human Services website, which I can link, just saying that medical transition for young people

00:39:59.280 is something that is important, that it's, quote, gender affirming care. And they also lie. And they

00:40:04.880 say that something like puberty blockers is reversible. Puberty blockers are not reversible. They are not

00:40:11.420 reversible. We just actually heard from a top transgender surgeon that it's not reversible. And then recently,

00:40:19.480 the HHS secretary, Rachel Levine, again, a man who identifies as a woman, said there is no argument

00:40:25.320 among medical professionals about the importance of gender affirming care. If that is true, it's just

00:40:29.160 because the medical professionals who know better are scared of losing their job, so they won't say

00:40:33.040 anything. I mean, that's the that's the MO of tyrants, though. That's what they do. And of course,

00:40:37.820 this is all just Orwellian news speak, gender affirming care that actually changes the appearance of

00:40:43.420 someone's gender. It's that's it's contradiction. It's the opposite is obviously true. And that is

00:40:51.500 true of what of most of what progressives say, when they say something is democratic, it's actually

00:40:58.040 authoritarian and vice versa. When they're talking about women's rights, they're also including men

00:41:03.100 in that when they're talking about bodily autonomy, they're not talking about the bodily autonomy or the

00:41:06.980 rights of the unborn child. And so almost everything they say is some kind of euphemism that actually

00:41:12.920 means the opposite. And it is certainly true here. Now, the organization that is behind this before

00:41:18.040 we get into a little bit more of the background and all this, the organization that seems to be

00:41:21.900 behind this is Fluid, P-H-L-U-I-D. They've got a shirt on the Target website that says gender is a

00:41:31.440 social construct. And the trans rights or human human rights kids shirt also is by Fluid, P-H-L-U-I-D.

00:41:40.240 Their website says that they are get fluid is the leading resource to corporations of every industry

00:41:46.580 in each size for achieving deep issue awareness, competence and authentic engagement with our

00:41:50.780 community. Again, euphemism, euphemism, euphemism. We are not a one size fits all models. We create

00:41:56.920 programs unique to your company. We meet you where you are on your journey towards inclusion.

00:42:01.360 Another euphemism that of course means that you have to define male and female simply as someone's

00:42:08.020 feelings. And in that case, the people who lose once again are children and also women who are

00:42:13.240 then forced to share private spaces with men who simply say that they're women. That puts women

00:42:18.760 at risk. The companies who are partnering with Get Fluid, they list them on their website. Nike,

00:42:24.920 Macy's, American Express, Uber. Uber also just announced that they are going to pay their employees

00:42:32.360 travel expenses to get an abortion. Mattel, Tapestry, HBO, NRF, Joey. I don't know what some of these are.

00:42:41.300 Accessories Council, Current, Elliott, Accenture, WWD, Equipment, Steve Madden, P&G, Showtime,

00:42:50.300 Time Warner, Cable, Primark, Lego, Diageo, Smirnoff, Saks Fifth Avenue, Nordstrom, Red Ventures,

00:42:59.480 The Points Guy, Papa John's. We all know Papa John's is just trying to help their PR, Global

00:43:05.200 Atlantic, Omnicom Group. So these are all people who are taking in this kind of extremely

00:43:11.980 deleterious indoctrination from this organization get fluid. All right, I want to talk a little bit

00:43:21.020 more just about what is behind all this and the consequences of it. So because we've talked about

00:43:30.760 the background of transgender ideology a lot, I won't get into all of it. I can link a previous

00:43:35.660 episode that we did about Disney and the dark history of gender grooming. I'll just kind of

00:43:42.780 remind you of the overview of it. You've heard me say this many times if you're a regular listener

00:43:48.060 of Relatable, but just remember who pioneered this idea of gender as something that is independent

00:43:53.660 from sex. It was Dr. John Money. In the mid-1960s, he was a psychologist who had this theory that gender

00:44:01.620 was something that was basically just socially constructed, that if you wanted to raise someone

00:44:08.140 with male anatomy as a girl, all you would have to do is present him with girlish feminine things,

00:44:14.360 dress him as a girl, and that he would be just as happy as a girl as he would be raised as a boy.

00:44:20.660 And so he decided to test this out on twin boys. And in the 1960s, the Reimer twins,

00:44:29.640 and there was a boy, David Reimer, who had a botched circumcision after he was born. And so

00:44:36.560 Dr. John Money convinced the parents to raise David Reimer as a girl named Barbara. So cut off

00:44:43.480 his penis, put him on hormones so that he grew breasts later on. And while they were children,

00:44:49.780 while the twins were children, one being raised as a girl, one being raised as a boy, Dr. John Money

00:44:54.300 and other doctors actually brought them into the office and forced them to perform, so disturbing,

00:45:00.120 so sad, perform sexual acts on one another. This is the doctor who pioneered transgender ideology and

00:45:07.240 whose finding served as the justification for social and medical transition for children and has for

00:45:13.960 decades. So this sexual abuser, this pedophile who tested this on this young boy, encouraged the

00:45:21.060 parents to raise him as a girl, forced the twins to do sexual things to each other while other doctors

00:45:28.260 watched and took notes. While this boy, David Reimer, ended up growing up, he just knew that

00:45:33.520 something was wrong. He knew that he wasn't a girl. His parents told him the truth. He transitioned back

00:45:38.640 into being a man. He struggled with depression his entire life. He ended up getting married and trying

00:45:44.520 to live a normal life, but he ended up committing suicide and so did his brother. This is all well

00:45:50.060 documented. David Reimer, I believe, was on Oprah a couple decades ago, probably 20 years ago at this

00:45:55.480 point. And we can link this story if you want to read it for yourself. But this is literally the

00:46:01.160 origin of transgender ideology. It started with a disastrous experiment by a pedophile. And then there

00:46:07.260 is a history of this kind of gender grooming and this kind of this just strange and disturbing origin

00:46:14.540 when you look at the person who created the transgender flag, which is something that we have talked

00:46:18.740 about in the past as well. And Women's Voices did a thread on this. Robert Hogue, who now goes by

00:46:25.340 Monica Helms, was the creator of the flag. And this is someone who has written about publicly in his

00:46:32.480 memoir. He is now he's considered still like this great transgender activist. He talked about fantasizing

00:46:38.960 about being a little girl wearing a leotard. And he has publicly written about stealing women's clothing

00:46:46.400 and wanting to be a six-year-old little girl. There is also an aspect of this that is very

00:46:51.560 pornographic, that there is this Women's Voices talks about this, that there is this just really

00:46:58.120 dark subset of pornography where men, they are turned on by the idea of being young girls. It's called like

00:47:07.240 an age regression trope. It's called sissy porn as well. Guys, I can't even get into all of this.

00:47:14.360 It's so dark and so disturbing. There are so many things interconnected here. And I just think if

00:47:19.880 more people understood the basis of this ideology, first of all, you would detach people who really

00:47:25.740 struggle with gender dysphoria from the transgender ideology and the activism that you're seeing and

00:47:32.320 some of the sexual perversion that you're seeing innate in the ideology. And you would realize that

00:47:37.740 those two things are separate categories. You would stop lumping them all together and you would have

00:47:42.160 much less tolerance and much less compassion for the predation that you are seeing towards

00:47:48.560 young people. And you will realize that this is an inherently perverse ideology. I don't think that

00:47:54.820 the people, everyone who propagates the ideology or everyone who believes in it and thinks that they

00:47:59.660 are the opposite gender buy into the perverse aspects of it. I don't think that at all. I think most of

00:48:04.940 them were just preyed upon. I think most people who support it think that they are doing the right

00:48:08.800 thing, that they are just being empathetic and inclusive and kind and all of that. But the fact

00:48:12.320 of the matter is the roots of this stuff is really perverse. It's really dark. It's really dangerous.

00:48:18.700 And Target is pushing it. Target is pushing this kind of stuff. Like you'll also notice the transgender

00:48:23.560 flag, guys. It's weird that it's baby colors. Let's just acknowledge that. That's freaking weird.

00:48:29.020 Again, I'm not saying that that describes people who call themselves transgender. I just think that

00:48:33.920 there are a lot of different paraphilias. There are a lot of different psychological issues.

00:48:38.760 There are a lot of different forms of perversion that are being lumped in to transgenderism in order

00:48:44.920 to be accepted. And that is dangerous for everyone. That's dangerous for everyone, both in and outside

00:48:51.140 of that movement. I think we need to be very discerning and wise about this. This stuff is not

00:48:55.200 neutral. It's not about inclusion or empathy. It's actually just extremely disturbing. There were two

00:49:02.860 stories that I saw, one for the Daily Signal and then one on a substack that is titled Parents with

00:49:09.000 Inconvenient Truth About Trans. There were two different stories about parents. One parent,

00:49:16.340 one mom, was named Maria Martinez. She's an immigrant from El Salvador. She told the story to the Daily

00:49:21.740 Signal about her daughter, Yalie, who struggled with depression because her father was absent while she

00:49:27.240 went to high school in L.A., where one of her friends convinced her that maybe her depression was

00:49:31.880 because she actually was the opposite gender. And so this young girl, 15 years old, she decides,

00:49:37.780 you know what? I am the opposite gender. The high school starts affirming this male identity without

00:49:41.980 telling her mother. And she does. Yalie ends up telling her mother, Maria Martinez, and Maria,

00:49:48.600 who loves her daughter so much, isn't exactly supportive. She doesn't really understand what's going on.

00:49:53.760 Well, the school counselor then decides that Yalie needs to be taken out of the custody of her mother.

00:50:00.280 So she is taken by the Department of Children and Family Services and says that, you know,

00:50:06.740 it's too dangerous for this young woman to stay in the home of her mother because she might commit

00:50:11.840 suicide that way. So for years, for three years, Yalie lived away from her family, lived in a home with

00:50:19.660 the Department of Children and Family Services. She legally changed her name to Andrew, started taking

00:50:24.160 cross-sex hormones. And Martinez was only allowed to see her daughter for one hour every week. And the

00:50:31.100 mother describes that she was taking these hormones. She still wasn't happy. She changed her name. She

00:50:34.860 changed her clothes. She changed all these things. And she still wasn't happy, which is very typical of

00:50:40.880 people who transition. They are still suicidal. They are still depressed because they are not

00:50:46.640 dealing with the problems that they actually have. And so she identified as a male for three years,

00:50:51.760 and then she committed suicide about six months before her 20th birthday. So guess what? The

00:50:56.780 California state, the state, the state government of California took her out of her home to try to

00:51:02.920 rescue her and to protect her from suicide. She ended up committing suicide. Maria Martinez learned that

00:51:09.020 her daughter had knelt on railroad tracks and raised her hands toward the sky as a train approached.

00:51:14.360 She says she questioned children and family services after her daughter's death saying,

00:51:18.680 where is my daughter? You took her away from me, my family. Now she's gone. You told me that she was

00:51:22.520 going to be better off. Martinez said that agency had no adequate response. Exactly. Because those

00:51:27.880 people don't care. They did not shed a tear for that girl when she committed suicide. They didn't care

00:51:32.800 when she died. They didn't care about her distress or her depression at all. She was a political prop for

00:51:37.800 them. Who is left to bear the tragedy of this ideology? The children, the kids who are committing suicide

00:51:43.660 because their depression isn't being properly dealt with. They are being treated for a dysphoria

00:51:48.840 that in many cases they don't actually have and it's not even treatment for dysphoria. And then the

00:51:53.360 parents who are affected by this for the rest of their life and they are not getting any sympathy from

00:51:57.520 the Biden administration or these progressive governments. And then you've got this sub stack,

00:52:01.780 the saga of Sage talks about this poor grandmother, these grandparents who had adopted

00:52:07.400 their grandchild become her parents when she was just two years old. Same kind of story. She got

00:52:13.220 to high school. She was depressed. She started identifying as a boy. The school found out that

00:52:19.220 the grandparents were not supportive of this new gender identity. So she was taken from their custody,

00:52:25.220 put into a group home. Then she was sex trafficked at the age of 15. The mom slash grandmother was not

00:52:30.820 allowed by the state of Maryland to see her until a court date. She was an investigative for abuse for

00:52:35.460 calling her granddaughter, she, her pronouns, and by her original name, Sage. Grandparents were charged

00:52:43.960 with the abuse and then Sage was put in a boy's home where she was then abused again. And then

00:52:50.320 something else happens. Quote, after an investigation by both Maryland and Virginia DSS, the abuse charges

00:52:56.660 were determined to be unfounded, but Sage was not allowed to come home. There was a political and gender

00:53:02.380 agenda for a Maryland public defender with clearly no knowledge of trauma caused by sexual exploitation

00:53:09.720 of a child who was kind of using Sage as his prop. She says a typical 14 year old is already emotionally

00:53:17.000 mature and struggles with many issues. And then Sage had additional issues on top of that. And then this

00:53:22.460 trauma of being sex trafficked, she was even more vulnerable and her grandparents, the only people that

00:53:26.760 really cared about her weren't even allowed to have access to her. And then she runs away from this

00:53:33.420 boy's home where she was abused. Um, to my horror. So this has, she ran away again. And this time she

00:53:40.320 ended up in Texas quote to my horror. The Maryland Marshall found that Sage had been sent from Maryland

00:53:45.340 to Dallas, Texas. And on January 24th, 2022, the Texas Marshall through the grace of God found her in a

00:53:51.880 locked room where once again, she had been abused by her predator. He had used her for pornography,

00:53:56.760 sold her body for money, starved her, beat her and drugged her. It was a true miracle. She was found.

00:54:02.020 So many children are never found, but her exploitation would never have happened in the first place.

00:54:06.100 If not for the intervention of the state of Maryland. Now Sage is in a residential therapeutic

00:54:11.180 facility for the next one to two years, depending on how well she responds to the program.

00:54:16.500 She will struggle with these consequences for the rest of her life. She's only 15 years old.

00:54:20.920 She spent her 15th birthday, October 20th in Maryland. And I was not even allowed to visit

00:54:26.040 her. I cried all day that day. So this is what's happening. This is what's happening. There is a

00:54:32.740 nefarious network of organizations and corporations and state governments and the progressive federal

00:54:41.000 government and all of these entities that are work pharmaceutical companies, all that are working

00:54:48.220 together to indoctrinate children with this kind of ideology, send them on a destructive path that

00:54:53.700 makes them money, that makes them feel like they are being inclusive and virtuous. And it is destroying

00:54:58.980 people's lives. It's destroying families because that's what, guess what? That's what we always say.

00:55:04.140 Progressivism destroys. Progressive ideology destroys. It just tears apart. It just deconstructs.

00:55:10.080 It doesn't have the ability. It's not in its nature to build anything back that is good. All of these

00:55:15.540 euphemisms about inclusion and tolerance, they are actually just weapons in order to destroy people's

00:55:21.700 lives because it really goes back to the denial of Genesis 1. It really goes back to the denial

00:55:28.540 of God's authority. It goes back to the denial of creation and the creation order. Progressivism,

00:55:36.520 another thing we always say always gets human nature wrong and there are consequences to getting human

00:55:40.940 nature wrong. And Target, Target is playing a part in all of this. It couldn't be more wicked. It

00:55:47.540 really couldn't. The only thing is wicked that I can really think about is supporting something like

00:55:52.560 sex trafficking or supporting something like abortion, which in a way, like these companies are

00:55:58.380 supporting the sex trafficking that is so pervasive when it comes to the predation in these

00:56:04.340 communities, especially online. And all of these corporations have the audacity to turn around and

00:56:11.000 wave their finger at you about issues of social and racial justice. Give me a break. This goes back to

00:56:17.760 what we say, like the solution to all of this. It's so hard. It's so hard to not shop at Target and not shop

00:56:23.680 at Amazon. Amazon is also paying for the abortions. Tesla is paying for the abortions of their employees.

00:56:31.680 It's so hard not to support these companies, but it is possible. Man, I'm really going to try. It is

00:56:39.820 really hard not to just like get on my Amazon app and order something quickly when I need it. I know

00:56:45.280 it feels like we're never going to have anywhere to shop and I'm not saying it's feasible every single

00:56:50.140 time to resist shopping at these places and supporting these places. But I do think localization

00:56:55.380 and trying to depend on one another and to try to depend on ourselves rather than these entities

00:57:01.380 is a solution to all of this and to try to just pray for the strength to not support

00:57:05.920 the money that is going into these dark ideologies. As for Target, someone did tell me,

00:57:12.520 I took a screenshot of this message. Someone told me that she decided that she was going to call

00:57:19.720 that she was going to call Target corporate. She said that she spoke to someone and reported the

00:57:24.840 items and she took everything down in that. She wrote everything down and she gave me an email

00:57:29.900 address to email too. So that's a that's a possibility. If that's something that we want

00:57:35.140 to do, if we want to call Target corporate, maybe it's not going to make a difference in that they're

00:57:39.140 not going to take it down. Like remember, Target also took Abigail Schreier's book about all of this

00:57:44.140 down, Irreversible Damage, where she looks at the facts, at the studies that show that this really is

00:57:49.560 a social contagion, especially for young girls. They took that down because one random Twitter

00:57:54.340 user said that it hurt their feelings. And so I do think that it could be worth it could be worth

00:58:00.300 at least calling them or emailing them and saying, hey, you are a part of a destructive predatory

00:58:06.900 ideology that is hurting families and hurting children. They're not going to agree with you,

00:58:11.000 but at least you're making your voice heard. I mean, it can't hurt. And so that's a possibility.

00:58:16.620 We can raise a respectful ruckus here for a thing that matters. That's what I'm trying to do with

00:58:20.260 this episode is just inform you and let us just remember in all of this, as I remind you often,

00:58:26.260 that God is totally and completely sovereign and that the church, if we have any job, is to be a

00:58:32.620 beacon for the gospel, which means being so clear on some of the core tenets of our faith, which we

00:58:38.480 find in the first chapter of the Bible that God made us male and female. God is love, 1 John 1, 9,

00:58:45.120 and that God who is love necessarily must, because he embodies love, do everything that he does and

00:58:51.800 say everything that he says out of love and that God who is love says that he made us male and female

00:58:56.700 and that our bodies are good. They're a part of our identity. We will actually be resurrected in our

00:59:01.100 bodies and it's not going to be, it's not going to match the gender identity that you believe that you

00:59:05.440 have in your head. It's going to match the body that God gave you here on earth. And so the body

00:59:12.260 matters. Jesus obviously came as a man in the flesh. God cares about the body. He doesn't want

00:59:19.040 body mutilation. I think that it breaks his heart. We should have compassion towards people experiencing

00:59:23.540 these things, but not without holding fast to what is good and right and true. All right, that's all I

00:59:34.660 got for you today. I know that was long and kind of hefty, but I think it's so important that we realize

00:59:39.500 what's going on here. I will be back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - May 10, 2022

Ep 614 ｜ Bye Bye, Target. You Crossed the Line

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