Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 13, 2022


Ep 628 | Et Tu, Fox News?


Episode Stats


Length

49 minutes

Words per minute

169.35968

Word count

8,455

Sentence count

523

Harmful content

Misogyny

8

sentences flagged

Hate speech

19

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

On today's episode of Relatable, Allie talks about the betrayal that conservatives feel over Fox News celebrating the gender transition of a small child. What does this tell us about the nature of companies and institutions? And what does it mean for the future of the Supreme Court?

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. This episode is brought to you by our friends
00:00:05.160 at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com slash Allie. That's goodranchers.com slash Allie.
00:00:20.100 All right, y'all. Hope you had a wonderful weekend. Today, we are going to talk about
00:00:25.400 the betrayal that conservatives feel over Fox News celebrating the gender transition of a small 0.99
00:00:31.920 child. What does this mean? Why does it matter? Should we continue to support Fox News? What
00:00:37.520 does this tell us about the nature of companies and institutions? What do we think of this as
00:00:42.380 Christians? But before we get into it, there is one other thing that I want to talk about that is
00:00:48.880 going to lead us into that subject. And that is the Dobbs decision that will be published imminently.
00:00:55.740 We don't know exactly when, either this week, next week, or the next week. And first, I'll start with
00:01:01.580 a reminder to continue to pray about the Dobbs decision. And for the Supreme Court, that is
00:01:06.920 the SCOTUS decision, as you guys probably know, that will determine the future of Roe v. Wade and
00:01:12.620 whether states will be able to ban or significantly restrict abortion. Could be this Wednesday. I
00:01:19.120 will guess that it will probably be the last week of June. I don't know that for sure. I just kind of
00:01:26.620 have a hunch. I'll be on vacation next week, just FYI. So we're going to have a couple new episodes come
00:01:32.300 out, but not four new episodes. But I won't be doing live shows. So I really hope that it's not then
00:01:37.980 because I won't be able to give the commentary, the analysis that I want to give, and hopefully
00:01:41.820 the celebration that I want to give. But let's pray for the justices, the conservative justices.
00:01:48.580 Let us also pray that justice will prevail for pre-born children. As we talked about last week,
00:01:54.340 a man traveled from California to Justice Kavanaugh's home to murder him. He turned himself in,
00:02:00.380 thank God. But he said he was angry about Roe possibly being overturned. And ironically, he said that
00:02:06.440 he was also upset that the Supreme Court upholds the Second Amendment. And that's just funny because
00:02:12.720 he actually traveled from California, one of the states with the strictest gun control laws,
00:02:20.060 to Justice Kavanaugh's home with a gun. And so after that threat, which the media barely reported on,
00:02:26.860 consider that for a second, a Supreme Court justice nearly gets assassinated. And the same people who say
00:02:31.500 that they care so much about norms and decency and normalcy and democracy barely even furrowed
00:02:37.140 their brow over it. The Washington Post editorial board did publish to their credit, kind of,
00:02:42.560 an opinion saying as gingerly as possible that maybe, possibly, justices shouldn't be afraid for
00:02:50.260 their lives inside their own homes. And for that opinion, they got dragged on Twitter by the left,
00:02:56.220 totally ratioed by leftists that the Washington Post has helped create over the years with their
00:03:01.560 biased reporting. They insisted, these people ratioing the Washington Post for this milquetoast
00:03:07.000 opinion, they insisted that actually the Supreme Court justices should feel unsafe in their homes
00:03:12.340 because apparently the Supreme Court has made people feel unsafe through their decisions. And so I
00:03:16.840 guess they just see it as kind of what they deserve. People in the comments were citing all of these
00:03:22.700 decisions that they didn't like by the Supreme Court that has made the country more dangerous,
00:03:26.680 they say. And this just speaks to the truth. This reaction to this, again, a milquetoast opinion,
00:03:33.740 an obvious opinion by the Washington Post editorial board just confirms what I always say,
00:03:40.840 that many leftists do not mean it when they say they want democracy. They do not like the
00:03:48.060 Constitution. They do not like the idea of inalienable rights. They do not like fair representation. They
00:03:54.760 do not like impartial, non-political institutions. The Supreme Court just interprets the law in light
00:04:00.840 of the Constitution, and they don't like that. It really doesn't matter. It should not matter if you
00:04:05.740 or I like the decision. The question should be, is it constitutional? But you really don't see
00:04:12.240 leftists ever debating that question, the only question that really matters. It's always about
00:04:16.760 how a particular decision or policy makes them feel. They do not care if it's constitutional.
00:04:22.860 They want their political objectives met no matter what. That's why most in the left-wing media are not
00:04:29.080 even talking about this assassination attempt, because at best, at best, they don't care.
00:04:34.980 It is not a huge deal to them, to these kinds of leftists. If Brett Kavanaugh is assassinated,
00:04:41.400 they see it as karma. As crazy as that might sound, I know it sounds kind of hyperbolic,
00:04:45.780 but judging from their silence, judging from their apparent, again, at best, apathy towards it,
00:04:53.960 it would seem that they kind of think of it as, well, what goes around comes around. They actually
00:05:00.040 see the threat to what they would call abortion rights as so egregious that it may actually deserve
00:05:07.300 that the justice who rules against what they call abortion rights may actually deserve to be killed.
00:05:13.920 That is why, even after the threat of assassination, leftists were still protesting outside of his and
00:05:21.380 Justice Barrett's homes where they have small children. The ends always justify the means to
00:05:25.720 them. There is nothing too radical for their tactics. And I wish, again, that I were exaggerating,
00:05:31.800 but when the Dobbs draft leaked, I saw blue checkmark after blue checkmark unashamedly saying that the
00:05:38.700 justices should be threatened and intimidated. And actually, when I think about it, I need to clarify
00:05:44.680 something. I typically say that when left-wing activists say that they want democracy, they mean
00:05:51.020 authoritarianism that they like. And when they say authoritarian, they mean democracy that they don't
00:05:55.960 like. So any law that restricts abortion or allows gun ownership, that's fascism somehow, always,
00:06:01.680 in the same way that they use racism to mean anything that they disagree with.
00:06:04.680 So I say that they don't really want democracy typically. But I think, actually, the more
00:06:11.400 accurate thing to say is that what they want is pure democracy. And this is what pure democracy
00:06:18.240 always devolves into, which is mob rule. And this is why the founders resisted it and gave us a
00:06:24.420 republic, a representative democracy with the Senate and an electoral college and state and local
00:06:28.680 governments so that 51 percent of the population don't tyrannize the 49 percent, so that a handful of
00:06:34.400 major cities in California and New York and the country don't get to make decisions for every
00:06:40.000 other state. Mob rule is exactly what we have seen Democrats push in the last two years. They talk
00:06:45.540 about the importance of justice, of equity. They don't. Well, again, it's not that they don't really
00:06:52.120 mean those things. They mean their versions of justice and equity, which ironically are unjust and
00:06:59.640 inequitable. Like, think about the Derek Chauvin and Kyle Rittenhouse trials. The jurors were
00:07:05.640 threatened. The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse case was threatened because the left-wing activists
00:07:11.560 wanted the results that they wanted, that made them feel good. They weren't actually concerned with
00:07:18.460 an impartial decision-making process. They weren't actually concerned with the right-to-do process.
00:07:25.700 They weren't actually concerned with impartial justice. I mean, whatever you think about those
00:07:30.320 cases, do we really want to live in a country without due process, where jurors make a decision
00:07:35.040 not based on evidence but based on the ruthlessness of the social justice mob? Does that seem like a
00:07:40.220 fair and just society for anyone? What these activists protesting outside the homes of the
00:07:45.440 justices are saying is this. I don't care what the Constitution says. I don't want you to interpret
00:07:50.200 the law without bias. I don't want you to remain an impartial institution. That's what they're saying.
00:07:55.060 I want you to make a decision based on your fear of us. That's how they feel. That's what they're
00:08:00.960 communicating. Again, I ask you, does that sound like a good system? If you're on the left, do you
00:08:06.300 want Sotomayor to make her decisions based on her fear of a right-wing mob? Well, good news for you.
00:08:13.540 You don't have to worry about that if you're on the left because if a right-wing mob were protesting
00:08:17.440 outside her home, they would be in jail right now. If a right-wing man traveled from Texas to Virginia
00:08:23.380 with a gun to kill Justice Kagan, it's all anyone would be talking about for weeks and weeks. Ah, but
00:08:29.360 right. The right, the right are the ones that we need to fear. The people on the right are the true
00:08:37.360 threat to stability in this country. Okay. In a sense, though, the right is a threat to the left-wing
00:08:44.740 idea of democracy, which is, again, essentially mob rule because we actually care about the
00:08:50.600 Constitution. If the Supreme Court makes a decision that we don't like, what do you find
00:08:54.600 online? A bunch of threats? A bunch of just hysteria? No, you see a bunch of articles about
00:09:02.140 why the logic and the constitutionality of the decision was wrong, not hysterical emotionalism
00:09:07.580 about how the decision makes us feel. And, you know, maybe that's our problem as conservatives.
00:09:12.120 Maybe that's why we so often lose is because we're not hysterical enough. We care about the rules and
00:09:17.840 we care about fairness too much. I don't know, though, how to change that because I don't want
00:09:25.120 to be like the other side. I and many conservatives, and conservatives are not monolithic, so I
00:09:32.140 understand not everyone has this belief system, but I and many conservatives, we're conservatives
00:09:36.120 because we are Christians. And so we feel tethered to a higher and transcendent standard that includes
00:09:42.200 biblical principles of impartial justice and integrity, and political victories are not the
00:09:48.000 end-all be-all, although we see them as important because we care about people, because, again, we care
00:09:53.060 about justice here on earth. But it's not the end-all be-all. Progressivism is a religion for many people
00:09:58.880 on the left, and it is the end-all be-all for them, which is why the means so often or the ends so much
00:10:05.100 so often justify the means for them. But it's different for a lot of conservatives who feel like
00:10:10.960 we are tethered to something higher and more transcendent. And such is the nature of progressivism
00:10:16.600 versus conservatism. Conserving justice in good institutions takes conscientiousness. It takes
00:10:23.860 caution. It takes care. Progressivism simply seeks to dismantle institutions, which can be done
00:10:30.000 recklessly. And that makes it hard for the right to compete against the left. That's why all of
00:10:34.660 these institutions have been captured by leftism. That and the fact that every company and major
00:10:39.960 institution in this country, as I just mentioned, are left-wing. Big tech, academia, public education,
00:10:46.640 the federal government, and here's something else against us. The Republicans we do have don't even use
00:10:52.620 the tools constitutionally available to them to push back against leftism. I mean, save a few
00:10:57.320 Republicans like Ron DeSantis, who is willing to go down the only feasible path forward for
00:11:02.200 conservatism, which is using the power on hand to push policy that aligns with good conservative
00:11:07.560 values. So that means revoking privileges for companies that threaten to subvert the will of
00:11:11.940 the majority of Floridians like Disney did. That means trying to shape curriculum away from racial
00:11:16.980 division and inappropriate sex ed. That means protecting women's sports. That means preserving the life 1.00
00:11:21.460 inside the womb. That means protecting parents' rights. But a lot of Republicans are willing to
00:11:26.160 do that. In fact, they're just ready to stab you in the back. For example, right now, there are
00:11:30.900 Republicans in the Senate conspiring with Democrats to make it harder for law-abiding citizens to
00:11:36.500 exercise their Second Amendment rights. They think if they give an inch to the left, they'll be liked.
00:11:42.320 They'll be insulated from criticism. It's a fantasy that never works. And that's why most Republicans
00:11:48.160 won't even touch the culture wars. Abortion, gender ideology. You don't have that problem with the
00:11:54.760 left. They're constantly fighting culture wars because they, to their credit, recognize something
00:11:59.600 that most Republicans refuse to. That we are in a moral theological fight more than we are in a
00:12:05.680 political one. We are fighting over human nature. We are fighting over where truth comes from. We are
00:12:10.060 fighting over where rights come from. We are fighting over the idea of right and wrong and who gets to
00:12:15.100 decide that. Many Republicans in power, the reason why they're not willing to fight that battle is
00:12:20.840 because, if we're honest, they are actually on the same page morally and theologically as the secular
00:12:25.700 left. So they don't really care about the gender and abortion stuff. They just don't care about it
00:12:32.600 because they, at best, they're just complacent, at best. And at worst, they actually agree with it.
00:12:40.020 And that's how you get a Republican governor of Utah, Spencer Cox, killing a bill protecting women's 0.97
00:12:46.880 sports and stating his pronouns at the beginning of a Zoom call. That's how you get that. And that
00:12:51.320 is also how you get Fox News, a supposedly conservative network, airing a segment celebrating
00:12:57.000 the transition of a child from a girl into a boy. All right. So I was stunned over the weekend.
00:13:06.600 I think it was maybe on Friday when I first saw this. Someone sent this to me. America Newsroom,
00:13:16.100 is that what it's called? America's Newsroom. They did a segment about this child named Ryland,
00:13:23.060 who is now 14 years old, who was born a girl. Of course, we believe still is a girl whose parents
00:13:30.200 transitioned Ryland when she was very young, five years old. America's Newsroom ran a segment on
00:13:39.200 this, celebrating it, calling it wonderful and courageous and heroic. And I will not only describe
00:13:46.800 to you why this is so troubling to me from a variety of angles. We are also going to look at a study
00:13:51.940 after we talk about this segment from the Heritage Foundation that just came out today
00:13:57.780 that completely dismantles this idea that transition of a child actually saves their
00:14:03.620 life or prevents them from committing suicide. That was one argument that was made in this whole
00:14:08.180 Fox News segment. And we're going to dismantle that. But first, before we get into it, let me
00:14:12.060 actually let me play you a clip of what was shown on Fox News on Friday.
00:14:18.720 Only walking down the street, you wouldn't think anything different.
00:14:22.880 14-year-old Ryland Whittington is a typical Southern California teenager.
00:14:28.920 And the Whittingtons, along with mom Hillary, dad Jeff, and sister Brinley, are a typical family.
00:14:35.580 The only difference, though, in Ryland's eyes, is what this family can mean to the tens of thousands
00:14:41.220 of kids under 18 who identify as transgender.
00:14:45.380 We put our story out there so people could see that, like, there's another family out there
00:14:50.720 that is going through what we're going through, or there's another family who's proud of who they are.
00:14:57.060 Before Ryland could even speak, he managed to tell his parents that he is a boy.
00:15:02.500 I could just see that it wasn't him trying to be a brat. It was, like, painful. It was truly painful
00:15:07.960 for him to have to wear feminine clothing and for us constantly telling him that you're a girl. 1.00
00:15:13.880 And unlike some trans kids, when Ryland came out at age 5 a few years later, he had the full support 0.98
00:15:20.280 of his parents. Initially, there was some pushback from us and tried to understand this.
00:15:24.660 We were confused like most people are. We thought that gender and sexuality were the same thing.
00:15:30.820 It took us a while to figure out that those two things are different.
00:15:33.420 All right. So this is someone, this is a family who is no stranger to the spotlight. This mom wrote
00:15:41.760 a book when Ryland was 6 years old about her child, quote, coming out at the age of 5. Notice what
00:15:49.180 they said there. Notice that they said that Ryland, that they knew before Ryland could speak that she
00:15:57.060 was actually a boy because of her discomfort in girly clothes. Now, let's think about this.
00:16:03.420 You as an individual, or if you've been around children, if you are a parent yourself,
00:16:09.100 think about what you know about the broad spectrum of behaviors of children. I think about myself.
00:16:16.380 When I was a child, I had two older brothers, and I was just kind of independent, strong-willed,
00:16:23.600 as you can imagine. Maybe that's why I didn't like wearing the things that my mom wanted me to wear.
00:16:28.440 But I went through a stage when I was young of not wanting to wear bows. I never wanted to wear
00:16:32.840 dresses. It actually did make me uncomfortable. It, like, embarrassed me. I thought that I was
00:16:39.060 cooler, or I don't know, that I was making my own decisions or whatever. I mean, I'm talking about
00:16:44.740 probably, like, four to five years old. I was in preschool, and all I wanted to wear were these,
00:16:49.860 like, raggedy white t-shirts and my jeans. And I also went through a stage in second grade of,
00:16:57.040 like, thinking snakes were cool, wanting to, like, check out snake books in the library. I just wasn't
00:17:03.140 a frilly kind of person. I'm still actually not really a frilly kind of person. I don't like,
00:17:07.480 you know, a bunch of, like, ruffles and a lot of things that, you know, girls really like. However, 0.89
00:17:13.660 I am completely comfortable and totally confident and very happy being a woman. I was really happy
00:17:19.480 as a young girl being a girl. I just didn't like a lot of the things that young girls did. I wouldn't 0.99
00:17:24.520 even call myself a tomboy, though, because I wouldn't, I didn't like sports or anything like
00:17:29.220 that. I just, there were just some girly things that I didn't really like. And I just, thank God,
00:17:35.020 thank, literally, thank you, Lord, that I was not raised in a time when a preschool teacher or maybe
00:17:41.640 a friend of my family or someone that we know suggested to my parents, you know, maybe your child
00:17:47.960 is confused. Maybe your child is actually supposed to be the opposite gender. Maybe you should try to raise 1.00
00:17:53.380 your child as a boy because, of course, my parents would never have gone along with that, whether
00:17:57.660 they were raising me now or 30 years ago. But still, to have that pressure, to even have those
00:18:04.980 conversations, to have the emotional manipulation that now is thrown at parents, that if you don't
00:18:11.700 want your child to commit suicide, if you want your child to be happy, if you want your child to be
00:18:16.100 satisfied at all, then you need to transition your child. At five years old? At five years old?
00:18:22.180 I just wonder if these parents ever lay in bed at night and just wonder, what if I had just let
00:18:27.140 her grow up? What if I had just let her grow up? What if I had tried to help her be okay with her 1.00
00:18:32.540 body? Like, what if I had tried to teach her that, hey, your body is good. God gave you your body. It's
00:18:38.900 okay that you don't like to wear girly stuff. It's okay that you don't like bows. It's okay that you
00:18:43.100 don't like dresses and that you like sports. That's okay. Like, we'll celebrate that. It's cool.
00:18:48.560 It's cool to be a girl that likes sports. It's cool to be a girl that wears jeans. That's totally
00:18:52.600 fine. But look, God made you a girl, and that is awesome. You like dirt bikes. You like baseball,
00:18:58.600 whatever it is. That's great. We will make sure that you can do those hobbies, and we will celebrate
00:19:03.380 you as a girl who likes those things. I just do wonder. And in general, I mean, I think that parents
00:19:08.980 make the best decisions for their kids. I certainly think that parents want to do the best things for
00:19:13.800 their kids. But to know that this mom has been out there writing books about this. There is a CNN
00:19:20.140 documentary about this child's life for years now. Now this kid is 14 years old, and that they have
00:19:27.260 been bragging about transitioning their child at five years. I mean, that just breaks my heart,
00:19:33.960 because the fact of the matter is, is that this child is a girl. Like, she is a girl. And right now,
00:19:39.380 maybe there's not a whole lot of difference. Like, she can pass as a prepubescent boy. But we know from
00:19:48.040 the stories that we have heard from detransitioners, like, that there are a lot of consequences to not 1.00
00:19:54.200 just social transition, but especially medical transition. And it just, the story itself breaks
00:20:00.320 my heart. But then let us talk about, let us talk about Fox News sharing this, and what this means.
00:20:07.100 Because I was pretty stunned by this. And when I said I was stunned by it, because I originally
00:20:11.360 tweeted about it, and I said, I'm stunned that Fox News ran a segment celebrating a girl whose parents
00:20:17.360 transitioned her into a boy when she was five, because she apparently told them she was a boy
00:20:22.300 before she could talk. Absolutely maddening and heartbreaking. And some people said, well,
00:20:27.780 how could you be surprised by this? Why are you surprised Fox News has been liberal for a while?
00:20:33.260 And that's true. Fox News has been liberal for a while. And I was not under any kind of,
00:20:39.460 I wasn't deluded into thinking that Fox News was like this bastion of social conservatism.
00:20:44.240 They have segments, I think, every week, if not almost every day on a variety of shows on Fox News
00:20:51.180 about Pride Month, celebrating Pride Month. Same thing on Fox and Friends. And this has been happening
00:20:56.740 for a few years now. I have no doubt that the culture at Fox News is probably liberal. Now,
00:21:02.160 I think that there are probably a lot of, you know, true social or some true social conservatives
00:21:07.500 there. Not every show aligns with this. I would say that you'll never see Tucker Carlson doing
00:21:13.320 something like this, doing a segment like this for sure. But I was still stunned, even knowing what I
00:21:21.180 know, knowing that there were a lot of socially liberal, there are a lot of socially liberal people
00:21:26.240 at Fox News. And while I'm not surprised when they celebrate gay pride, whatever, even though I 0.82
00:21:33.660 disagree with that, to celebrate the gender transition of a child, to talk about a child
00:21:42.140 being the opposite gender when they are a baby, before they could talk, to talk about transitioning 1.00
00:21:48.220 a child at the age of five years old, and not even covering this. Nothing in this segment talked
00:21:54.640 about the other side of it. That, hey, this is a very contentious debate. There are people who
00:21:59.420 disagree with the transition of young people, because the statistics actually show that young
00:22:04.480 people who experience this kind of gender confusion typically grow out of it after puberty. About 85%
00:22:11.120 grow out of any kind of feelings of gender dysphoria that they feel. Like there was no talk about
00:22:16.660 the consequences, the physical consequences, the psychological consequences that can occur in young
00:22:23.340 people who are transitioned. This wasn't like a both sides of the debate thing here. This was
00:22:28.940 unabashed, complete and total celebration of transitioning and mutilating a child's body 0.99
00:22:35.920 by Fox News. I just, I was surprised that they went this far. And they actually doubled down on it. And
00:22:45.360 this is, I mean, so this is America's newsroom. And it's Dana Perino. I don't think you saw her. It's
00:22:50.340 Dana Perino reporting. Now, I don't know that Dana Perino actually agrees with all this. I didn't
00:22:56.040 see her double down on it. She read the teleprompter. I'm sure she did not write the script herself.
00:23:00.620 Actually, I'm almost completely positive she didn't. She probably feels like she's doing her job. I don't
00:23:07.400 know where she stands on this. I'm not assuming one way or another. Obviously, if this were me,
00:23:12.380 not that I would ever like have a job where I'm supposed to be like an unbiased reporter,
00:23:16.340 because that's not what I do. I am a commentator. But there's no way that anyone, if Blaze TV,
00:23:23.480 which they never would, but if they ever came to me and said, hey, you have to use quote unquote
00:23:27.120 preferred pronouns, or you have to read this segment, I wouldn't do it. I would quit. I would
00:23:32.360 quit before I would do something like that. So I thought that was interesting. Again, I don't know
00:23:37.440 where she stands on it. I generally, I mean, I like Dana Perino. I was disappointed, obviously,
00:23:44.340 by the participation in this segment. I'm sure that she would have something to say about that.
00:23:52.280 I mean, she is a very like reasonable person. She gets a lot of good analysis and she's really
00:23:57.200 good at her job. It was a little jarring to see her report on this. So, but other members of Fox News
00:24:07.120 double down on this. So Brian Yanis is the, he was the correspondent who reported on this family.
00:24:15.740 He tweeted, as part of our America Together LGBTQ plus Pride Month series at Fox News,
00:24:22.320 we highlighted the story of Ryland Whittington, a trans California teen and his, he says his,
00:24:28.000 family to openly, who openly spoke about their journey. I would rather have a living son than a dead
00:24:34.400 daughter. And the story was produced, he said, by Melissa Christ. So as I said on Twitter,
00:24:41.100 the Fox is in the hen house. It is. I mean, when this is, I think it was Rush Limbaugh who used to
00:24:48.300 say that if an institution, if an institution is not actively conservative, it will eventually become
00:24:54.300 liberal. There are so many liberals within Fox News who don't see any issue with this whatsoever
00:25:00.160 that it is eventually, if they keep on hiring people like this, it will eventually be completely
00:25:07.360 almost, save maybe one or two shows, like a left wing, a left wing network that says some conservative
00:25:16.960 things sometimes. And that's a shame. I think Fox News is important to conservatism, even if it's not
00:25:24.300 as conservative as I would like them to be. I don't think social conservatism is nearly represented
00:25:29.480 enough on Fox News. But it's still important to combat the complete and total propaganda that we
00:25:38.880 see from left wing networks when it comes to a variety of subjects. And so this makes me sad.
00:25:45.080 This is not, I'm, this is not coming from someone who wants to see Fox News fail. Like I don't,
00:25:50.020 I don't want them to fail. I don't want them to, you know, be taken off air like a lot of people
00:25:54.860 on the left say, because I do think there is an important place for Fox News in the conservative
00:26:00.200 media landscape. But if it goes down this path, if it destroys itself from within, because it is
00:26:07.380 latching on to the most toxic and radical parts of progressivism, which is gender ideology inflicted 1.00
00:26:14.380 on children, then I will not be sad. I will not be sad if it combusts. I will not be sad if it goes
00:26:19.720 way. It deserves everything that it's going to get. And look, this is the same thing that I say
00:26:24.300 to Republicans who believe that they, if they give an inch to the left on guns or abortion or whatever,
00:26:29.540 then maybe they'll be liked by the left or they'll be insulated from the harshest form of criticism.
00:26:34.780 It's not going to happen. Progressives, progressivism is totalitarian in nature. It wants to conquer
00:26:41.480 every square inch of everything and everyone. I mean, the left is not going to stop criticizing Fox News,
00:26:48.800 hating Fox News and trying to get Fox News taken off air. This is not going to insulate them from
00:26:53.780 cancellation. This is just going to make sure that they are hated by everyone. So I simply think that
00:26:58.940 this is this was not just an undiscerning move, but also a dangerous move, because this ideology is
00:27:06.220 claiming lives. It's claiming bodies. It's claiming people's minds. And it is victimizing not just young
00:27:12.320 people, but also women. When you affirm this kind of thing, when you affirm this idea that a man can
00:27:18.200 become a woman or worse yet, that a girl can become a boy or vice versa as a child, then you 0.77
00:27:24.900 are you are allowing you are enabling the disastrous policy that we are seeing in the form of men being 1.00
00:27:33.540 able to compete against women, men being able to go into women's locker rooms and bathrooms, men being 0.99
00:27:40.200 able to go into women's prisons and domestic shelters and abuse and re-victimize them. I mean,
00:27:45.560 that's something that we are seeing happen across the country. And when you affirm that,
00:27:50.000 when you believe, when you affirm this idea that you can switch genders, that is what you are 0.96
00:27:54.640 enabling. That is what you are allowing to happen. So it's dangerous in that way, but it's also
00:27:59.120 dangerous individually when you are encouraging young children to try to mutilate their bodies or
00:28:05.300 change their bodies or deny the gender identity, which is male and female based on your, based on
00:28:12.160 your biology that God gave them. And we're going to look at a study.
00:28:18.300 And I just want to note before we get into this heritage study that I read this morning,
00:28:23.460 that in this particular segment on Fox News, they also feature. So this kid, Ryland, I guess,
00:28:30.440 has been, you know, put forward in press conferences, which again, I just find to be very suspect that
00:28:36.960 he has been placed into the spotlight by his parents. So I screenshot this and we can, we can put it up
00:28:44.820 on YouTube. And I tweeted it featured is California State Senator Scott Wiener. That's his name. He is,
00:28:53.560 like I said, a state senator from California. He's standing behind Ryland who is standing at a podium,
00:28:58.560 I guess, at a press conference. Now, this is the same state senator we've talked about him before,
00:29:04.280 who recently tweeted that California should require drag queen 101 for kindergartners through
00:29:10.420 12th graders. He also wrote a bill a few years ago that prevented pedophiles, still does, it's into law,
00:29:17.840 prevents pedophiles from registering as sex offenders if their victim was 10 or fewer years younger than
00:29:24.820 them. So think about that. If an 18 year old assaulted an eight year old, then that 18 year
00:29:31.560 old wouldn't have to register as a sex offender because they were only 10 years apart. That was
00:29:36.620 a bill that was authored by State Senator Scott Wiener, who is highlighted in this montage put
00:29:43.020 together by Fox News. He also wrote the bill lessening the penalty for knowingly exposing someone
00:29:50.320 to HIV. So this guy is a real creep. And I would call him some other things, but I will hold my
00:29:57.060 tongue. So again, this guy is featured by Fox News in this montage. And also, if you look at other
00:30:03.100 advertisements and montages that Fox News puts up, they openly display the transgender flag. 0.98
00:30:11.740 Fox News. Fox News is not just pushing, oh, acceptance, tolerance of gay and lesbian people
00:30:16.980 getting married and visiting each other in hospitals, what this whole thing started as.
00:30:21.300 I mean, they are pushing transgenderism and not just for adults to transition. We are talking about
00:30:26.720 young kids not being able to go through puberty because they're put on puberty blockers because
00:30:32.440 their parents are transitioning them because they say that their child was confused before their child
00:30:37.100 could even speak. And you know that transitioning or preventing the natural puberty process in a young
00:30:46.800 person, you understand that that doesn't just inhibit the person's body from growing. It actually hurts
00:30:53.320 their brain. It actually hurts their mental development. In a way, it stunts them in all
00:30:58.960 forms of growth and traps them in this kind of adolescent, not just adolescent body, but also
00:31:04.100 adolescent mentality because your brain actually needs puberty too. This is part of when we mature.
00:31:09.960 This is a leap in maturation and in growth from thinking like a child to thinking closer to an
00:31:19.040 adult, even though your frontal lobe doesn't fully develop until 25. And I just, I've heard this said
00:31:24.160 before and it's, I think it's a worthy question for us to consider. What kind of people benefit from
00:31:34.380 children staying in a childlike body and a childlike mentality for much longer than they
00:31:43.580 are meant to? Like who benefits from prolonged adolescence, both physically and mentally? It's
00:31:50.100 really, really disturbing. I mean, we've also talked about, we don't have time to get into it all today
00:31:54.660 so we can link some past episodes. Just look into the history of transgenderism. Look into the roots of
00:32:00.720 this. Look into the roots of gender ideology from Dr. John Money, from Dr. Alfred Kinsey. Look into the
00:32:08.800 person, Monica Helms is the name that this person goes by, who created the transgender flag. Look at the 0.54
00:32:18.240 history of gender ideology and all of the other ideologies that it is intertwined with and you will
00:32:26.040 realize this is a dark, dark belief system. This is a dark ideology with a dark demonic history.
00:32:33.960 Fox News is promoting it. Let us get into a little bit of the, of the report that I told you about,
00:32:42.420 about the Heritage Foundation and what they found. Because the, one of the things that the mom said
00:32:49.880 that Brian Yanis from Fox News reported on, she said that she would rather, the mom said she would
00:32:57.600 rather have a living son than a dead daughter. And that's something that you hear a lot, that parents
00:33:04.360 say, that activists say. And what that means is that affirmation of this child's apparent gender
00:33:14.320 identity, which contradicts with the child's sex, is the only way to prevent that child from committing
00:33:20.320 suicide. That the reason why kids who identify as transgender commit suicide is because they are not 1.00
00:33:28.000 accepted by their family. That's a manipulation tactic. That's moral extortion. That is emotional,
00:33:36.960 emotional, emotional extortion, emotional manipulation. And it is inaccurate. It's also just
00:33:47.220 not true. It is not factually true. So the Heritage Report did this big study, and I'm going to link it
00:33:52.620 in the description of this episode, because I want you to read it yourself. We don't have time
00:33:57.500 to read it all, all of their findings on air. But let me just read you the results. You can read the
00:34:03.940 methodology. You can read their criticism of previous studies, why previous studies that seem
00:34:10.300 to show that kids benefit from being accepted and transitioning are actually faulty. They're based 1.00
00:34:18.580 on really bad data. So the Heritage Foundation breaks all of that down. But let me just read you
00:34:22.740 the results of their very thorough study. Quote, in the past several years, the suicide rate among those
00:34:28.860 ages 12 to 23 has become significantly higher in states that have a provision that allows
00:34:34.820 minors to receive routine health care without parental consent than in states without such
00:34:39.940 a provision. Before 2010, these two groups of states did not differ in their youth suicide rates.
00:34:44.980 Starting in 2010, when puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones became widely available,
00:34:49.920 elevated suicide rates in states where minors can more easily access those medical interventions
00:34:54.700 became observable. Rather than being protective against suicide, this pattern indicates that easier
00:35:00.500 access by minors to cross-sex medical interventions without parental consent is associated with higher
00:35:05.700 risk of suicide. Without making any adjustments, suicide rates among those ages 12 to 23 begin to spike
00:35:12.380 in states that have provisions that allow minors to access health care without parental consent
00:35:17.660 relative to states that have no such provision around 2016 after cross-sex medical interventions
00:35:23.460 became more common. By 2020, there are about 3.5 more suicides per 100,000 people ages 12 to 23 in
00:35:30.560 states with easier access than in states without an access provision. There is no similar spike in
00:35:35.380 suicide rates among those ages 28 to 39 at that time. So there's more. I would read it carefully and I
00:35:48.460 would keep this in your back pocket when you're having these discussions. Another thing that I would say
00:35:55.060 to the idea that you have to affirm someone's newfound identity in order to prevent them from committing
00:36:02.800 suicide is that we really don't have great data at all. We don't have any kind of good data collection
00:36:10.720 system that tells us why someone committed suicide. Most people don't have their so-called gender
00:36:19.020 identity or sexual orientation noted by any kind of official system when they commit suicide. And so
00:36:27.240 it's really a guess by the family and by the friends why a particular teenager or young person commits suicide.
00:36:36.020 We really, we don't have any numbers that tell us, oh, look at this group. They are committing suicide
00:36:42.560 because they are not accepted by their friends and family. Again, that's something that is thrown out
00:36:47.760 as a form of manipulation. It is not something that's actually proven. And so don't be manipulated by
00:36:55.000 that. Don't be extorted by that. Don't be told that you lack empathy or that you lack love because you
00:37:01.440 believe that a child, that a person should accept the body that God gave them. That is the most loving
00:37:06.260 thing you can do. Of course, as Christians, we believe the most loving thing that we can do is
00:37:10.920 agree with God. God is love, 1 John 4, 8. That same God in Genesis 127 tells us that he made us male and
00:37:17.680 female. So by agreeing with God, by affirming what God says is, by affirming what God says is good,
00:37:24.080 we are being as loving as we possibly can. And there was a thread that I think really emphasizes
00:37:31.300 this by a person named Jaden. Jaden is 22 years old. He is a former puberty blocked individual who
00:37:37.420 socially, hormonally, and surgically transitioned as a teenager. And he put up a thread talking about
00:37:45.380 his experience and also what he thought about Matt Walsh's What is a Woman? And his story is really
00:37:50.860 compelling and really sad and a good reminder for us of why we push back against this. And again,
00:37:55.800 why is it why it is so egregious to Fox News to try to glorify something like this?
00:38:03.040 All right. So let me read you some of this thread. He says, the interview that particularly caught my
00:38:08.960 attention in Matt Walsh's documentary was when was when Matt Walsh interviewed Dr. Michelle
00:38:13.860 Forcier, a physician who routinely treats trans youth. Forcier is a big proponent of affirmative
00:38:21.520 health care and pubertal blockers. It's no secret trans care is handled anecdotally. Forcier admits
00:38:29.540 that in the interview, but it's unnerving to hear a medical professional talk about something so
00:38:33.860 intimate and serious as transitioning in an inconsistent, nonchalant manner. And what this
00:38:38.760 person means by this, if you haven't seen the documentary, I encourage you to do so.
00:38:42.580 She basically just says, yeah, kids can go on puberty blockers when he or she feels that he
00:38:49.700 or she wants to. And actually, she probably doesn't say he or she. She probably says when they want to.
00:38:55.460 So really, it's based on the feelings of a child who, again, doesn't even have anything close to a
00:39:00.100 developed brain. And as Matt points out in the documentary, kids think that there are a lot of
00:39:05.260 things when they're young. And in fact, they are not. And it is the responsibility, the role of adults to
00:39:11.220 guide them towards reality, not allow them to ruin themselves and to hurt themselves based on a
00:39:16.860 delusion. She's this person says, what I took issue with was the fact that she claims purity 0.89
00:39:23.260 blockers are completely reversible and don't have permitted effects. This is an ever increasingly
00:39:27.300 common narrative. And it's a fallacy with medical data lawsuits and personal reported experiences
00:39:31.880 directly contradicting it. And then he links some of those studies. And that's absolutely true.
00:39:38.160 We know for a fact that puberty blockers do have irreversible effects on young people. And we
00:39:47.100 actually quoted an expert, a very pro-gender switching surgeon who said that young men who
00:39:59.020 take puberty blockers and then receive these cross-sex hormones, that they are never able to achieve 0.98
00:40:05.260 orgasm. They can't even really have any kind of sexual stimulation because of the medication that
00:40:11.220 they went through as a young person or that they took as a young person in order to try and fail to
00:40:16.980 change their gender. Jaden says, at age 16, I was prescribed a spironolactone, a common testosterone
00:40:27.020 blocker for nearly a year. I'd struggle as I'd continue to take the medication, but have consistently high
00:40:33.360 T levels. An OBGYN swapped my testosterone blockers for a GNRH agonist implant known as
00:40:42.200 histrelin. In the coming years, I've experienced physical, mental, and sexual changes I could never
00:40:47.080 imagine. Jaden developed and still struggles with muscular atrophy, metabolic issues, bone density
00:40:53.500 concerns after having his testosterone permanently blocked by this GNRH. The lack of physical development
00:40:59.820 and sexual maturation I experienced during puberty is irreversible. Even when taking testosterone
00:41:05.560 replacement therapy, the fertility issues and eventual decimation of my fertility altogether will
00:41:11.160 never be rebounded. So we're talking permanent sterilization here. That is the consequence of
00:41:18.400 messing with a child's natural puberty process. Like we don't ever stop to ask, oh, maybe a person goes
00:41:26.720 through puberty for a reason? Like maybe there are some consequences to stopping any kind of natural
00:41:31.440 process. By the way, that's the entirety of the sexual revolution. The entirety of the sexual
00:41:36.380 revolution is never stopping to ask, maybe there is a reason why the natural process works the way it
00:41:43.660 does. Like maybe there is a reason the natural family always looked like mom, dad, child. Maybe there
00:41:49.440 is a reason reproduction requires a sperm and an egg. Like maybe there's not just a physical reason for
00:41:55.640 that, a scientific reason for that. Maybe there's also a psychological and social reason for that.
00:42:00.420 Like maybe we shouldn't be messing with the thing that has worked for all of human history for
00:42:06.400 millennia. But in the world of progressivism, social whims, whatever adults want, always trump
00:42:13.420 science. They trump facts. They trump God. They trump morality. And the problem is, is that human nature,
00:42:21.400 biology is like a beach ball. We can keep trying to push it down with hormone blockers. We can try to
00:42:26.720 change the language. We can try to use propaganda, like trans women are women, to try to push this 1.00
00:42:32.940 beach ball down. It's going to keep popping back up. It's going to pop up in, by man, it's going to,
00:42:40.180 that popping up is going to manifest itself in the damaged bodies and minds and lives of young people.
00:42:47.040 Jaden also says after starting estrogen injections, he started dealing with vascular issues and what is
00:42:52.260 likely nerve damage in his legs. He noticed a loss of libido in the first weeks of taking blockers and
00:42:57.600 started to feel as if he wasn't equipped to handle his emotions. He had brain fog, memory issues,
00:43:01.880 trouble concentrating and depression and dropped out of school. This is the reason, by the way,
00:43:07.660 so many so-called trans kids commit suicide. It is not because of a lack of acceptance. It's not because
00:43:14.020 of a lack of tolerance. It is because you're not supposed to mess with your hormones like that.
00:43:20.560 You're not supposed to mess with your puberty process. You're not supposed to mess with your
00:43:24.240 body in this way. This is a form of mutilation that, of course, is going to lead to depression
00:43:28.200 for so many reasons. Just the confusion and if it's true dysphoria, the dysphoria itself can lead
00:43:34.300 to depression, but also the jacking with your body and the natural processes that your body is supposed
00:43:40.460 to go through. I mean, that is also going to lead to depression and anxiety and suicide.
00:43:46.840 So the loving position, the right position, the truthful position is to be against this stuff.
00:43:53.640 Fox News is so far gone if they are going to embrace things like this. Look, I'm thankful for
00:43:59.680 the platform that Fox News has given me. Again, I think it has an important place in conservative
00:44:04.600 media, but it's a good reminder that you can't look to any corporation, any institution to be your
00:44:13.080 moral exemplar and to stand for truth. And I will go a step further is that it's not just that if an
00:44:21.000 entity isn't actively conservative, they will become liberal. I would argue if an entity isn't
00:44:27.160 actively Christian, it will eventually become liberal because culture and politics are both
00:44:34.040 downstream from theology. Whether you believe in God or not, if you don't believe in God, that is
00:44:39.600 still a form of theology. Your theology is that you don't believe in a God. That's going to inform
00:44:44.260 what you think about politics and culture. If you do believe in God, if you believe in the first verse
00:44:49.500 or the first chapter of the first book of the Bible, that God created the heavens and the earth,
00:44:55.760 then that is also going to inform what you think about culture and politics. So I would argue
00:45:01.260 if an entity does not have a firm foundation in God, does not have a firm foundation in Genesis,
00:45:09.600 a firm foundation in the word of God, then it will eventually give way to social pressure and social
00:45:18.120 whims because why not? That is why while I am happy to link arms with like unwoke liberals who are at least
00:45:25.900 for free speech and for diversity of thought and are not insane about the gender thing, they're a little
00:45:33.760 bit more nuanced. At the end of the day, I do not believe that being unwoke is good enough. I don't
00:45:42.140 believe that you can build a simply unwoke world. You have to replace it with something else and
00:45:48.580 whatever you replace it with has to have a firm foundation. Being unwoke or just being like
00:45:54.940 unconditionally tolerant we've already seen is not a firm foundation. That's why we are where we are
00:46:00.540 actually. So I'm not talking about a theocracy. I'm not talking about forcing people to be Christians
00:46:06.140 or having like a state-sanctioned religion. I am for us deciding, okay, like what do we want to build
00:46:13.060 on? Like where are we getting our definition of truth? Where are we getting our definition of
00:46:17.320 justice? I say, as all of Western civilization has said until relatively recently, that the Bible
00:46:25.600 is a great place to get that foundation. And in fact, the only place to get that foundation,
00:46:30.920 it is godlessness and scripturelessness that has brought us to where we are today. That's what it all
00:46:40.700 fully comes down to. We can have scientific and moral and philosophical, political, cultural
00:46:45.060 conversations, absolutely. But at the end of the day, it comes down to who you think made us.
00:46:51.340 Who's in charge? Why are we here? What are human beings? The more we deny the foundational concept,
00:46:59.920 which has been foundational not just to Christianity, but also to Western civilization,
00:47:04.280 that human beings are made in the image of God, that we are not self-creating, that we are not
00:47:07.780 self-declaring, that we are not self-identifying, but that we were created by God who tells us who we
00:47:13.100 are and what we are for, and even what our rights are, the more we will spiral, not just into moral
00:47:19.360 anarchy and confusion and chaos, but also into tyranny. We will always look for someone to lead us.
00:47:26.340 We will always look for someone to tell us what to do, to give us some guidance. And if it's not God,
00:47:34.660 it's going to be yourself, it's going to be the government. And we've seen where that leads. The
00:47:40.080 20th century tells us exactly where that goes. All right, we've got a lot of good episodes coming
00:47:47.260 up this week. Tomorrow, we will be talking to Senator Marco Rubio. If you've got questions for
00:47:52.860 him about any legislation or any particular issue or policy, then please shoot me a message on
00:47:59.260 Instagram. I will try to ask him some of the questions that you guys suggest. We've got other
00:48:05.380 good interviews coming your way this week. And once again, a reminder that I will be on,
00:48:12.540 I will be out next week. We're just taking another summer break, but I think we will have two new
00:48:16.700 episodes for you that we will pre-record that will come out. I'll probably do some kind of like
00:48:21.160 emergency something if Roe v. Wade or if the Dobbs decision is published next week, but I'm hoping and
00:48:28.520 praying that it happens the next week. So I'll be able to give you a proper and formal episode
00:48:34.300 on that. Also, another thing to pray for, the Southern Baptist Convention is meeting this week
00:48:39.820 in Anaheim, California. Go listen to last week's episode about the Southern Baptist Convention and
00:48:45.740 why this conference matters, why picking the SBC. President actually matters. It matters not just to
00:48:51.500 the country, but also to the world, because as Pastor Tom Askell pointed out last week,
00:48:55.540 the SBC is exporting its Christianity and its theology to the world through world missions.
00:49:03.380 And so, and it's also the largest denomination in the country. So whether you are a Southern
00:49:07.240 Baptist or not, it is very consequential which direction the denomination goes. So we talked
00:49:13.080 about that. We talked about the sexual abuse report last week. Go listen to that and also just
00:49:17.800 pray that wisdom and that God's grace would prevail in Anaheim, California.
00:49:23.780 Um, this week. All right. I think that's all I've got. As always, if you love this podcast,
00:49:32.300 please leave us a five-star review wherever you listen. Also, we've got great merch for you at the
00:49:39.040 merch store. We've got all different kinds of t-shirts and we've got stickers and we've got more
00:49:45.780 stuff coming out for you that I'm super excited about. Thank you guys for your enthusiasm and buying
00:49:51.220 our fun merch. All right. I will see you guys back here tomorrow.