Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 628 ｜ Et Tu, Fox News？

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00:00:20.100 All right, y'all. Hope you had a wonderful weekend. Today, we are going to talk about

00:00:25.400 the betrayal that conservatives feel over Fox News celebrating the gender transition of a small 0.99

00:00:31.920 child. What does this mean? Why does it matter? Should we continue to support Fox News? What

00:00:37.520 does this tell us about the nature of companies and institutions? What do we think of this as

00:00:42.380 Christians? But before we get into it, there is one other thing that I want to talk about that is

00:00:48.880 going to lead us into that subject. And that is the Dobbs decision that will be published imminently.

00:00:55.740 We don't know exactly when, either this week, next week, or the next week. And first, I'll start with

00:01:01.580 a reminder to continue to pray about the Dobbs decision. And for the Supreme Court, that is

00:01:06.920 the SCOTUS decision, as you guys probably know, that will determine the future of Roe v. Wade and

00:01:12.620 whether states will be able to ban or significantly restrict abortion. Could be this Wednesday. I

00:01:19.120 will guess that it will probably be the last week of June. I don't know that for sure. I just kind of

00:01:26.620 have a hunch. I'll be on vacation next week, just FYI. So we're going to have a couple new episodes come

00:01:32.300 out, but not four new episodes. But I won't be doing live shows. So I really hope that it's not then

00:01:37.980 because I won't be able to give the commentary, the analysis that I want to give, and hopefully

00:01:41.820 the celebration that I want to give. But let's pray for the justices, the conservative justices.

00:01:48.580 Let us also pray that justice will prevail for pre-born children. As we talked about last week,

00:01:54.340 a man traveled from California to Justice Kavanaugh's home to murder him. He turned himself in,

00:02:00.380 thank God. But he said he was angry about Roe possibly being overturned. And ironically, he said that

00:02:06.440 he was also upset that the Supreme Court upholds the Second Amendment. And that's just funny because

00:02:12.720 he actually traveled from California, one of the states with the strictest gun control laws,

00:02:20.060 to Justice Kavanaugh's home with a gun. And so after that threat, which the media barely reported on,

00:02:26.860 consider that for a second, a Supreme Court justice nearly gets assassinated. And the same people who say

00:02:31.500 that they care so much about norms and decency and normalcy and democracy barely even furrowed

00:02:37.140 their brow over it. The Washington Post editorial board did publish to their credit, kind of,

00:02:42.560 an opinion saying as gingerly as possible that maybe, possibly, justices shouldn't be afraid for

00:02:50.260 their lives inside their own homes. And for that opinion, they got dragged on Twitter by the left,

00:02:56.220 totally ratioed by leftists that the Washington Post has helped create over the years with their

00:03:01.560 biased reporting. They insisted, these people ratioing the Washington Post for this milquetoast

00:03:07.000 opinion, they insisted that actually the Supreme Court justices should feel unsafe in their homes

00:03:12.340 because apparently the Supreme Court has made people feel unsafe through their decisions. And so I

00:03:16.840 guess they just see it as kind of what they deserve. People in the comments were citing all of these

00:03:22.700 decisions that they didn't like by the Supreme Court that has made the country more dangerous,

00:03:26.680 they say. And this just speaks to the truth. This reaction to this, again, a milquetoast opinion,

00:03:33.740 an obvious opinion by the Washington Post editorial board just confirms what I always say,

00:03:40.840 that many leftists do not mean it when they say they want democracy. They do not like the

00:03:48.060 Constitution. They do not like the idea of inalienable rights. They do not like fair representation. They

00:03:54.760 do not like impartial, non-political institutions. The Supreme Court just interprets the law in light

00:04:00.840 of the Constitution, and they don't like that. It really doesn't matter. It should not matter if you

00:04:05.740 or I like the decision. The question should be, is it constitutional? But you really don't see

00:04:12.240 leftists ever debating that question, the only question that really matters. It's always about

00:04:16.760 how a particular decision or policy makes them feel. They do not care if it's constitutional.

00:04:22.860 They want their political objectives met no matter what. That's why most in the left-wing media are not

00:04:29.080 even talking about this assassination attempt, because at best, at best, they don't care.

00:04:34.980 It is not a huge deal to them, to these kinds of leftists. If Brett Kavanaugh is assassinated,

00:04:41.400 they see it as karma. As crazy as that might sound, I know it sounds kind of hyperbolic,

00:04:45.780 but judging from their silence, judging from their apparent, again, at best, apathy towards it,

00:04:53.960 it would seem that they kind of think of it as, well, what goes around comes around. They actually

00:05:00.040 see the threat to what they would call abortion rights as so egregious that it may actually deserve 0.97

00:05:07.300 that the justice who rules against what they call abortion rights may actually deserve to be killed.

00:05:13.920 That is why, even after the threat of assassination, leftists were still protesting outside of his and

00:05:21.380 Justice Barrett's homes where they have small children. The ends always justify the means to

00:05:25.720 them. There is nothing too radical for their tactics. And I wish, again, that I were exaggerating,

00:05:31.800 but when the Dobbs draft leaked, I saw blue checkmark after blue checkmark unashamedly saying that the

00:05:38.700 justices should be threatened and intimidated. And actually, when I think about it, I need to clarify

00:05:44.680 something. I typically say that when left-wing activists say that they want democracy, they mean

00:05:51.020 authoritarianism that they like. And when they say authoritarian, they mean democracy that they don't

00:05:55.960 like. So any law that restricts abortion or allows gun ownership, that's fascism somehow, always,

00:06:01.680 in the same way that they use racism to mean anything that they disagree with.

00:06:04.680 So I say that they don't really want democracy typically. But I think, actually, the more

00:06:11.400 accurate thing to say is that what they want is pure democracy. And this is what pure democracy

00:06:18.240 always devolves into, which is mob rule. And this is why the founders resisted it and gave us a

00:06:24.420 republic, a representative democracy with the Senate and an electoral college and state and local

00:06:28.680 governments so that 51 percent of the population don't tyrannize the 49 percent, so that a handful of

00:06:34.400 major cities in California and New York and the country don't get to make decisions for every

00:06:40.000 other state. Mob rule is exactly what we have seen Democrats push in the last two years. They talk

00:06:45.540 about the importance of justice, of equity. They don't. Well, again, it's not that they don't really

00:06:52.120 mean those things. They mean their versions of justice and equity, which ironically are unjust and

00:06:59.640 inequitable. Like, think about the Derek Chauvin and Kyle Rittenhouse trials. The jurors were

00:07:05.640 threatened. The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse case was threatened because the left-wing activists

00:07:11.560 wanted the results that they wanted, that made them feel good. They weren't actually concerned with

00:07:18.460 an impartial decision-making process. They weren't actually concerned with the right-to-do process.

00:07:25.700 They weren't actually concerned with impartial justice. I mean, whatever you think about those

00:07:30.320 cases, do we really want to live in a country without due process, where jurors make a decision

00:07:35.040 not based on evidence but based on the ruthlessness of the social justice mob? Does that seem like a

00:07:40.220 fair and just society for anyone? What these activists protesting outside the homes of the

00:07:45.440 justices are saying is this. I don't care what the Constitution says. I don't want you to interpret

00:07:50.200 the law without bias. I don't want you to remain an impartial institution. That's what they're saying.

00:07:55.060 I want you to make a decision based on your fear of us. That's how they feel. That's what they're

00:08:00.960 communicating. Again, I ask you, does that sound like a good system? If you're on the left, do you

00:08:06.300 want Sotomayor to make her decisions based on her fear of a right-wing mob? Well, good news for you.

00:08:13.540 You don't have to worry about that if you're on the left because if a right-wing mob were protesting

00:08:17.440 outside her home, they would be in jail right now. If a right-wing man traveled from Texas to Virginia

00:08:23.380 with a gun to kill Justice Kagan, it's all anyone would be talking about for weeks and weeks. Ah, but

00:08:29.360 right. The right, the right are the ones that we need to fear. The people on the right are the true

00:08:37.360 threat to stability in this country. Okay. In a sense, though, the right is a threat to the left-wing

00:08:44.740 idea of democracy, which is, again, essentially mob rule because we actually care about the

00:08:50.600 Constitution. If the Supreme Court makes a decision that we don't like, what do you find

00:08:54.600 online? A bunch of threats? A bunch of just hysteria? No, you see a bunch of articles about

00:09:02.140 why the logic and the constitutionality of the decision was wrong, not hysterical emotionalism

00:09:07.580 about how the decision makes us feel. And, you know, maybe that's our problem as conservatives.

00:09:12.120 Maybe that's why we so often lose is because we're not hysterical enough. We care about the rules and

00:09:17.840 we care about fairness too much. I don't know, though, how to change that because I don't want

00:09:25.120 to be like the other side. I and many conservatives, and conservatives are not monolithic, so I

00:09:32.140 understand not everyone has this belief system, but I and many conservatives, we're conservatives

00:09:36.120 because we are Christians. And so we feel tethered to a higher and transcendent standard that includes

00:09:42.200 biblical principles of impartial justice and integrity, and political victories are not the

00:09:48.000 end-all be-all, although we see them as important because we care about people, because, again, we care

00:09:53.060 about justice here on earth. But it's not the end-all be-all. Progressivism is a religion for many people

00:09:58.880 on the left, and it is the end-all be-all for them, which is why the means so often or the ends so much

00:10:05.100 so often justify the means for them. But it's different for a lot of conservatives who feel like

00:10:10.960 we are tethered to something higher and more transcendent. And such is the nature of progressivism

00:10:16.600 versus conservatism. Conserving justice in good institutions takes conscientiousness. It takes

00:10:23.860 caution. It takes care. Progressivism simply seeks to dismantle institutions, which can be done

00:10:30.000 recklessly. And that makes it hard for the right to compete against the left. That's why all of

00:10:34.660 these institutions have been captured by leftism. That and the fact that every company and major

00:10:39.960 institution in this country, as I just mentioned, are left-wing. Big tech, academia, public education,

00:10:46.640 the federal government, and here's something else against us. The Republicans we do have don't even use

00:10:52.620 the tools constitutionally available to them to push back against leftism. I mean, save a few

00:10:57.320 Republicans like Ron DeSantis, who is willing to go down the only feasible path forward for

00:11:02.200 conservatism, which is using the power on hand to push policy that aligns with good conservative

00:11:07.560 values. So that means revoking privileges for companies that threaten to subvert the will of

00:11:11.940 the majority of Floridians like Disney did. That means trying to shape curriculum away from racial

00:11:16.980 division and inappropriate sex ed. That means protecting women's sports. That means preserving the life 1.00

00:11:21.460 inside the womb. That means protecting parents' rights. But a lot of Republicans are willing to

00:11:26.160 do that. In fact, they're just ready to stab you in the back. For example, right now, there are 0.99

00:11:30.900 Republicans in the Senate conspiring with Democrats to make it harder for law-abiding citizens to

00:11:36.500 exercise their Second Amendment rights. They think if they give an inch to the left, they'll be liked.

00:11:42.320 They'll be insulated from criticism. It's a fantasy that never works. And that's why most Republicans

00:11:48.160 won't even touch the culture wars. Abortion, gender ideology. You don't have that problem with the

00:11:54.760 left. They're constantly fighting culture wars because they, to their credit, recognize something

00:11:59.600 that most Republicans refuse to. That we are in a moral theological fight more than we are in a

00:12:05.680 political one. We are fighting over human nature. We are fighting over where truth comes from. We are

00:12:10.060 fighting over where rights come from. We are fighting over the idea of right and wrong and who gets to

00:12:15.100 decide that. Many Republicans in power, the reason why they're not willing to fight that battle is

00:12:20.840 because, if we're honest, they are actually on the same page morally and theologically as the secular

00:12:25.700 left. So they don't really care about the gender and abortion stuff. They just don't care about it

00:12:32.600 because they, at best, they're just complacent, at best. And at worst, they actually agree with it.

00:12:40.020 And that's how you get a Republican governor of Utah, Spencer Cox, killing a bill protecting women's 0.97

00:12:46.880 sports and stating his pronouns at the beginning of a Zoom call. That's how you get that. And that

00:12:51.320 is also how you get Fox News, a supposedly conservative network, airing a segment celebrating

00:12:57.000 the transition of a child from a girl into a boy. All right. So I was stunned over the weekend.

00:13:06.600 I think it was maybe on Friday when I first saw this. Someone sent this to me. America Newsroom,

00:13:16.100 is that what it's called? America's Newsroom. They did a segment about this child named Ryland,

00:13:23.060 who is now 14 years old, who was born a girl. Of course, we believe still is a girl whose parents

00:13:30.200 transitioned Ryland when she was very young, five years old. America's Newsroom ran a segment on

00:13:39.200 this, celebrating it, calling it wonderful and courageous and heroic. And I will not only describe

00:13:46.800 to you why this is so troubling to me from a variety of angles. We are also going to look at a study

00:13:51.940 after we talk about this segment from the Heritage Foundation that just came out today

00:13:57.780 that completely dismantles this idea that transition of a child actually saves their

00:14:03.620 life or prevents them from committing suicide. That was one argument that was made in this whole

00:14:08.180 Fox News segment. And we're going to dismantle that. But first, before we get into it, let me

00:14:12.060 actually let me play you a clip of what was shown on Fox News on Friday.

00:14:18.720 Only walking down the street, you wouldn't think anything different.

00:14:22.880 14-year-old Ryland Whittington is a typical Southern California teenager.

00:14:28.920 And the Whittingtons, along with mom Hillary, dad Jeff, and sister Brinley, are a typical family.

00:14:35.580 The only difference, though, in Ryland's eyes, is what this family can mean to the tens of thousands

00:14:41.220 of kids under 18 who identify as transgender.

00:14:45.380 We put our story out there so people could see that, like, there's another family out there

00:14:50.720 that is going through what we're going through, or there's another family who's proud of who they are.

00:14:57.060 Before Ryland could even speak, he managed to tell his parents that he is a boy.

00:15:02.500 I could just see that it wasn't him trying to be a brat. It was, like, painful. It was truly painful

00:15:07.960 for him to have to wear feminine clothing and for us constantly telling him that you're a girl. 1.00

00:15:13.880 And unlike some trans kids, when Ryland came out at age 5 a few years later, he had the full support 0.98

00:15:20.280 of his parents. Initially, there was some pushback from us and tried to understand this.

00:15:24.660 We were confused like most people are. We thought that gender and sexuality were the same thing.

00:15:30.820 It took us a while to figure out that those two things are different.

00:15:33.420 All right. So this is someone, this is a family who is no stranger to the spotlight. This mom wrote

00:15:41.760 a book when Ryland was 6 years old about her child, quote, coming out at the age of 5. Notice what

00:15:49.180 they said there. Notice that they said that Ryland, that they knew before Ryland could speak that she

00:15:57.060 was actually a boy because of her discomfort in girly clothes. Now, let's think about this.

00:16:03.420 You as an individual, or if you've been around children, if you are a parent yourself,

00:16:09.100 think about what you know about the broad spectrum of behaviors of children. I think about myself.

00:16:16.380 When I was a child, I had two older brothers, and I was just kind of independent, strong-willed,

00:16:23.600 as you can imagine. Maybe that's why I didn't like wearing the things that my mom wanted me to wear.

00:16:28.440 But I went through a stage when I was young of not wanting to wear bows. I never wanted to wear

00:16:32.840 dresses. It actually did make me uncomfortable. It, like, embarrassed me. I thought that I was

00:16:39.060 cooler, or I don't know, that I was making my own decisions or whatever. I mean, I'm talking about

00:16:44.740 probably, like, four to five years old. I was in preschool, and all I wanted to wear were these,

00:16:49.860 like, raggedy white t-shirts and my jeans. And I also went through a stage in second grade of,

00:16:57.040 like, thinking snakes were cool, wanting to, like, check out snake books in the library. I just wasn't

00:17:03.140 a frilly kind of person. I'm still actually not really a frilly kind of person. I don't like,

00:17:07.480 you know, a bunch of, like, ruffles and a lot of things that, you know, girls really like. However, 0.89

00:17:13.660 I am completely comfortable and totally confident and very happy being a woman. I was really happy

00:17:19.480 as a young girl being a girl. I just didn't like a lot of the things that young girls did. I wouldn't 0.99

00:17:24.520 even call myself a tomboy, though, because I wouldn't, I didn't like sports or anything like

00:17:29.220 that. I just, there were just some girly things that I didn't really like. And I just, thank God,

00:17:35.020 thank, literally, thank you, Lord, that I was not raised in a time when a preschool teacher or maybe

00:17:41.640 a friend of my family or someone that we know suggested to my parents, you know, maybe your child

00:17:47.960 is confused. Maybe your child is actually supposed to be the opposite gender. Maybe you should try to raise 1.00

00:17:53.380 your child as a boy because, of course, my parents would never have gone along with that, whether

00:17:57.660 they were raising me now or 30 years ago. But still, to have that pressure, to even have those

00:18:04.980 conversations, to have the emotional manipulation that now is thrown at parents, that if you don't

00:18:11.700 want your child to commit suicide, if you want your child to be happy, if you want your child to be

00:18:16.100 satisfied at all, then you need to transition your child. At five years old? At five years old?

00:18:22.180 I just wonder if these parents ever lay in bed at night and just wonder, what if I had just let

00:18:27.140 her grow up? What if I had just let her grow up? What if I had tried to help her be okay with her 1.00

00:18:32.540 body? Like, what if I had tried to teach her that, hey, your body is good. God gave you your body. It's

00:18:38.900 okay that you don't like to wear girly stuff. It's okay that you don't like bows. It's okay that you

00:18:43.100 don't like dresses and that you like sports. That's okay. Like, we'll celebrate that. It's cool.

00:18:48.560 It's cool to be a girl that likes sports. It's cool to be a girl that wears jeans. That's totally

00:18:52.600 fine. But look, God made you a girl, and that is awesome. You like dirt bikes. You like baseball,

00:18:58.600 whatever it is. That's great. We will make sure that you can do those hobbies, and we will celebrate

00:19:03.380 you as a girl who likes those things. I just do wonder. And in general, I mean, I think that parents

00:19:08.980 make the best decisions for their kids. I certainly think that parents want to do the best things for

00:19:13.800 their kids. But to know that this mom has been out there writing books about this. There is a CNN

00:19:20.140 documentary about this child's life for years now. Now this kid is 14 years old, and that they have

00:19:27.260 been bragging about transitioning their child at five years. I mean, that just breaks my heart,

00:19:33.960 because the fact of the matter is, is that this child is a girl. Like, she is a girl. And right now,

00:19:39.380 maybe there's not a whole lot of difference. Like, she can pass as a prepubescent boy. But we know from

00:19:48.040 the stories that we have heard from detransitioners, like, that there are a lot of consequences to not 1.00

00:19:54.200 just social transition, but especially medical transition. And it just, the story itself breaks

00:20:00.320 my heart. But then let us talk about, let us talk about Fox News sharing this, and what this means.

00:20:07.100 Because I was pretty stunned by this. And when I said I was stunned by it, because I originally

00:20:11.360 tweeted about it, and I said, I'm stunned that Fox News ran a segment celebrating a girl whose parents

00:20:17.360 transitioned her into a boy when she was five, because she apparently told them she was a boy

00:20:22.300 before she could talk. Absolutely maddening and heartbreaking. And some people said, well,

00:20:27.780 how could you be surprised by this? Why are you surprised Fox News has been liberal for a while?

00:20:33.260 And that's true. Fox News has been liberal for a while. And I was not under any kind of,

00:20:39.460 I wasn't deluded into thinking that Fox News was like this bastion of social conservatism.

00:20:44.240 They have segments, I think, every week, if not almost every day on a variety of shows on Fox News

00:20:51.180 about Pride Month, celebrating Pride Month. Same thing on Fox and Friends. And this has been happening

00:20:56.740 for a few years now. I have no doubt that the culture at Fox News is probably liberal. Now,

00:21:02.160 I think that there are probably a lot of, you know, true social or some true social conservatives

00:21:07.500 there. Not every show aligns with this. I would say that you'll never see Tucker Carlson doing

00:21:13.320 something like this, doing a segment like this for sure. But I was still stunned, even knowing what I

00:21:21.180 know, knowing that there were a lot of socially liberal, there are a lot of socially liberal people

00:21:26.240 at Fox News. And while I'm not surprised when they celebrate gay pride, whatever, even though I 0.82

00:21:33.660 disagree with that, to celebrate the gender transition of a child, to talk about a child

00:21:42.140 being the opposite gender when they are a baby, before they could talk, to talk about transitioning 1.00

00:21:48.220 a child at the age of five years old, and not even covering this. Nothing in this segment talked

00:21:54.640 about the other side of it. That, hey, this is a very contentious debate. There are people who

00:21:59.420 disagree with the transition of young people, because the statistics actually show that young

00:22:04.480 people who experience this kind of gender confusion typically grow out of it after puberty. About 85%

00:22:11.120 grow out of any kind of feelings of gender dysphoria that they feel. Like there was no talk about

00:22:16.660 the consequences, the physical consequences, the psychological consequences that can occur in young

00:22:23.340 people who are transitioned. This wasn't like a both sides of the debate thing here. This was

00:22:28.940 unabashed, complete and total celebration of transitioning and mutilating a child's body 0.99

00:22:35.920 by Fox News. I just, I was surprised that they went this far. And they actually doubled down on it. And

00:22:45.360 this is, I mean, so this is America's newsroom. And it's Dana Perino. I don't think you saw her. It's

00:22:50.340 Dana Perino reporting. Now, I don't know that Dana Perino actually agrees with all this. I didn't

00:22:56.040 see her double down on it. She read the teleprompter. I'm sure she did not write the script herself.

00:23:00.620 Actually, I'm almost completely positive she didn't. She probably feels like she's doing her job. I don't

00:23:07.400 know where she stands on this. I'm not assuming one way or another. Obviously, if this were me,

00:23:12.380 not that I would ever like have a job where I'm supposed to be like an unbiased reporter,

00:23:16.340 because that's not what I do. I am a commentator. But there's no way that anyone, if Blaze TV,

00:23:23.480 which they never would, but if they ever came to me and said, hey, you have to use quote unquote

00:23:27.120 preferred pronouns, or you have to read this segment, I wouldn't do it. I would quit. I would

00:23:32.360 quit before I would do something like that. So I thought that was interesting. Again, I don't know

00:23:37.440 where she stands on it. I generally, I mean, I like Dana Perino. I was disappointed, obviously,

00:23:44.340 by the participation in this segment. I'm sure that she would have something to say about that.

00:23:52.280 I mean, she is a very like reasonable person. She gets a lot of good analysis and she's really

00:23:57.200 good at her job. It was a little jarring to see her report on this. So, but other members of Fox News

00:24:07.120 double down on this. So Brian Yanis is the, he was the correspondent who reported on this family.

00:24:15.740 He tweeted, as part of our America Together LGBTQ plus Pride Month series at Fox News,

00:24:22.320 we highlighted the story of Ryland Whittington, a trans California teen and his, he says his,

00:24:28.000 family to openly, who openly spoke about their journey. I would rather have a living son than a dead

00:24:34.400 daughter. And the story was produced, he said, by Melissa Christ. So as I said on Twitter,

00:24:41.100 the Fox is in the hen house. It is. I mean, when this is, I think it was Rush Limbaugh who used to

00:24:48.300 say that if an institution, if an institution is not actively conservative, it will eventually become

00:24:54.300 liberal. There are so many liberals within Fox News who don't see any issue with this whatsoever

00:25:00.160 that it is eventually, if they keep on hiring people like this, it will eventually be completely

00:25:07.360 almost, save maybe one or two shows, like a left wing, a left wing network that says some conservative

00:25:16.960 things sometimes. And that's a shame. I think Fox News is important to conservatism, even if it's not

00:25:24.300 as conservative as I would like them to be. I don't think social conservatism is nearly represented

00:25:29.480 enough on Fox News. But it's still important to combat the complete and total propaganda that we

00:25:38.880 see from left wing networks when it comes to a variety of subjects. And so this makes me sad.

00:25:45.080 This is not, I'm, this is not coming from someone who wants to see Fox News fail. Like I don't,

00:25:50.020 I don't want them to fail. I don't want them to, you know, be taken off air like a lot of people

00:25:54.860 on the left say, because I do think there is an important place for Fox News in the conservative

00:26:00.200 media landscape. But if it goes down this path, if it destroys itself from within, because it is

00:26:07.380 latching on to the most toxic and radical parts of progressivism, which is gender ideology inflicted 1.00

00:26:14.380 on children, then I will not be sad. I will not be sad if it combusts. I will not be sad if it goes

00:26:19.720 way. It deserves everything that it's going to get. And look, this is the same thing that I say

00:26:24.300 to Republicans who believe that they, if they give an inch to the left on guns or abortion or whatever,

00:26:29.540 then maybe they'll be liked by the left or they'll be insulated from the harshest form of criticism.

00:26:34.780 It's not going to happen. Progressives, progressivism is totalitarian in nature. It wants to conquer

00:26:41.480 every square inch of everything and everyone. I mean, the left is not going to stop criticizing Fox News,

00:26:48.800 hating Fox News and trying to get Fox News taken off air. This is not going to insulate them from

00:26:53.780 cancellation. This is just going to make sure that they are hated by everyone. So I simply think that

00:26:58.940 this is this was not just an undiscerning move, but also a dangerous move, because this ideology is

00:27:06.220 claiming lives. It's claiming bodies. It's claiming people's minds. And it is victimizing not just young

00:27:12.320 people, but also women. When you affirm this kind of thing, when you affirm this idea that a man can

00:27:18.200 become a woman or worse yet, that a girl can become a boy or vice versa as a child, then you 0.77

00:27:24.900 are you are allowing you are enabling the disastrous policy that we are seeing in the form of men being 1.00

00:27:33.540 able to compete against women, men being able to go into women's locker rooms and bathrooms, men being 0.99

00:27:40.200 able to go into women's prisons and domestic shelters and abuse and re-victimize them. I mean,

00:27:45.560 that's something that we are seeing happen across the country. And when you affirm that,

00:27:50.000 when you believe, when you affirm this idea that you can switch genders, that is what you are 0.96

00:27:54.640 enabling. That is what you are allowing to happen. So it's dangerous in that way, but it's also

00:27:59.120 dangerous individually when you are encouraging young children to try to mutilate their bodies or

00:28:05.300 change their bodies or deny the gender identity, which is male and female based on your, based on

00:28:12.160 your biology that God gave them. And we're going to look at a study.

00:28:18.300 And I just want to note before we get into this heritage study that I read this morning,

00:28:23.460 that in this particular segment on Fox News, they also feature. So this kid, Ryland, I guess,

00:28:30.440 has been, you know, put forward in press conferences, which again, I just find to be very suspect that

00:28:36.960 he has been placed into the spotlight by his parents. So I screenshot this and we can, we can put it up

00:28:44.820 on YouTube. And I tweeted it featured is California State Senator Scott Wiener. That's his name. He is,

00:28:53.560 like I said, a state senator from California. He's standing behind Ryland who is standing at a podium,

00:28:58.560 I guess, at a press conference. Now, this is the same state senator we've talked about him before,

00:29:04.280 who recently tweeted that California should require drag queen 101 for kindergartners through

00:29:10.420 12th graders. He also wrote a bill a few years ago that prevented pedophiles, still does, it's into law,

00:29:17.840 prevents pedophiles from registering as sex offenders if their victim was 10 or fewer years younger than

00:29:24.820 them. So think about that. If an 18 year old assaulted an eight year old, then that 18 year

00:29:31.560 old wouldn't have to register as a sex offender because they were only 10 years apart. That was

00:29:36.620 a bill that was authored by State Senator Scott Wiener, who is highlighted in this montage put

00:29:43.020 together by Fox News. He also wrote the bill lessening the penalty for knowingly exposing someone

00:29:50.320 to HIV. So this guy is a real creep. And I would call him some other things, but I will hold my 0.94

00:29:57.060 tongue. So again, this guy is featured by Fox News in this montage. And also, if you look at other

00:30:03.100 advertisements and montages that Fox News puts up, they openly display the transgender flag. 0.98

00:30:11.740 Fox News. Fox News is not just pushing, oh, acceptance, tolerance of gay and lesbian people

00:30:16.980 getting married and visiting each other in hospitals, what this whole thing started as.

00:30:21.300 I mean, they are pushing transgenderism and not just for adults to transition. We are talking about

00:30:26.720 young kids not being able to go through puberty because they're put on puberty blockers because

00:30:32.440 their parents are transitioning them because they say that their child was confused before their child

00:30:37.100 could even speak. And you know that transitioning or preventing the natural puberty process in a young

00:30:46.800 person, you understand that that doesn't just inhibit the person's body from growing. It actually hurts

00:30:53.320 their brain. It actually hurts their mental development. In a way, it stunts them in all

00:30:58.960 forms of growth and traps them in this kind of adolescent, not just adolescent body, but also

00:31:04.100 adolescent mentality because your brain actually needs puberty too. This is part of when we mature.

00:31:09.960 This is a leap in maturation and in growth from thinking like a child to thinking closer to an

00:31:19.040 adult, even though your frontal lobe doesn't fully develop until 25. And I just, I've heard this said

00:31:24.160 before and it's, I think it's a worthy question for us to consider. What kind of people benefit from

00:31:34.380 children staying in a childlike body and a childlike mentality for much longer than they

00:31:43.580 are meant to? Like who benefits from prolonged adolescence, both physically and mentally? It's

00:31:50.100 really, really disturbing. I mean, we've also talked about, we don't have time to get into it all today

00:31:54.660 so we can link some past episodes. Just look into the history of transgenderism. Look into the roots of

00:32:00.720 this. Look into the roots of gender ideology from Dr. John Money, from Dr. Alfred Kinsey. Look into the

00:32:08.800 person, Monica Helms is the name that this person goes by, who created the transgender flag. Look at the 0.54

00:32:18.240 history of gender ideology and all of the other ideologies that it is intertwined with and you will

00:32:26.040 realize this is a dark, dark belief system. This is a dark ideology with a dark demonic history.

00:32:33.960 Fox News is promoting it. Let us get into a little bit of the, of the report that I told you about,

00:32:42.420 about the Heritage Foundation and what they found. Because the, one of the things that the mom said

00:32:49.880 that Brian Yanis from Fox News reported on, she said that she would rather, the mom said she would

00:32:57.600 rather have a living son than a dead daughter. And that's something that you hear a lot, that parents

00:33:04.360 say, that activists say. And what that means is that affirmation of this child's apparent gender

00:33:14.320 identity, which contradicts with the child's sex, is the only way to prevent that child from committing

00:33:20.320 suicide. That the reason why kids who identify as transgender commit suicide is because they are not 1.00

00:33:28.000 accepted by their family. That's a manipulation tactic. That's moral extortion. That is emotional,

00:33:36.960 emotional, emotional extortion, emotional manipulation. And it is inaccurate. It's also just

00:33:47.220 not true. It is not factually true. So the Heritage Report did this big study, and I'm going to link it

00:33:52.620 in the description of this episode, because I want you to read it yourself. We don't have time

00:33:57.500 to read it all, all of their findings on air. But let me just read you the results. You can read the

00:34:03.940 methodology. You can read their criticism of previous studies, why previous studies that seem

00:34:10.300 to show that kids benefit from being accepted and transitioning are actually faulty. They're based 1.00

00:34:18.580 on really bad data. So the Heritage Foundation breaks all of that down. But let me just read you

00:34:22.740 the results of their very thorough study. Quote, in the past several years, the suicide rate among those

00:34:28.860 ages 12 to 23 has become significantly higher in states that have a provision that allows

00:34:34.820 minors to receive routine health care without parental consent than in states without such

00:34:39.940 a provision. Before 2010, these two groups of states did not differ in their youth suicide rates.

00:34:44.980 Starting in 2010, when puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones became widely available,

00:34:49.920 elevated suicide rates in states where minors can more easily access those medical interventions

00:34:54.700 became observable. Rather than being protective against suicide, this pattern indicates that easier

00:35:00.500 access by minors to cross-sex medical interventions without parental consent is associated with higher

00:35:05.700 risk of suicide. Without making any adjustments, suicide rates among those ages 12 to 23 begin to spike

00:35:12.380 in states that have provisions that allow minors to access health care without parental consent

00:35:17.660 relative to states that have no such provision around 2016 after cross-sex medical interventions

00:35:23.460 became more common. By 2020, there are about 3.5 more suicides per 100,000 people ages 12 to 23 in

00:35:30.560 states with easier access than in states without an access provision. There is no similar spike in

00:35:35.380 suicide rates among those ages 28 to 39 at that time. So there's more. I would read it carefully and I

00:35:48.460 would keep this in your back pocket when you're having these discussions. Another thing that I would say

00:35:55.060 to the idea that you have to affirm someone's newfound identity in order to prevent them from committing

00:36:02.800 suicide is that we really don't have great data at all. We don't have any kind of good data collection

00:36:10.720 system that tells us why someone committed suicide. Most people don't have their so-called gender

00:36:19.020 identity or sexual orientation noted by any kind of official system when they commit suicide. And so

00:36:27.240 it's really a guess by the family and by the friends why a particular teenager or young person commits suicide.

00:36:36.020 We really, we don't have any numbers that tell us, oh, look at this group. They are committing suicide

00:36:42.560 because they are not accepted by their friends and family. Again, that's something that is thrown out

00:36:47.760 as a form of manipulation. It is not something that's actually proven. And so don't be manipulated by

00:36:55.000 that. Don't be extorted by that. Don't be told that you lack empathy or that you lack love because you

00:37:01.440 believe that a child, that a person should accept the body that God gave them. That is the most loving

00:37:06.260 thing you can do. Of course, as Christians, we believe the most loving thing that we can do is

00:37:10.920 agree with God. God is love, 1 John 4, 8. That same God in Genesis 127 tells us that he made us male and

00:37:17.680 female. So by agreeing with God, by affirming what God says is, by affirming what God says is good,

00:37:24.080 we are being as loving as we possibly can. And there was a thread that I think really emphasizes

00:37:31.300 this by a person named Jaden. Jaden is 22 years old. He is a former puberty blocked individual who

00:37:37.420 socially, hormonally, and surgically transitioned as a teenager. And he put up a thread talking about

00:37:45.380 his experience and also what he thought about Matt Walsh's What is a Woman? And his story is really

00:37:50.860 compelling and really sad and a good reminder for us of why we push back against this. And again,

00:37:55.800 why is it why it is so egregious to Fox News to try to glorify something like this?

00:38:03.040 All right. So let me read you some of this thread. He says, the interview that particularly caught my

00:38:08.960 attention in Matt Walsh's documentary was when was when Matt Walsh interviewed Dr. Michelle

00:38:13.860 Forcier, a physician who routinely treats trans youth. Forcier is a big proponent of affirmative

00:38:21.520 health care and pubertal blockers. It's no secret trans care is handled anecdotally. Forcier admits

00:38:29.540 that in the interview, but it's unnerving to hear a medical professional talk about something so

00:38:33.860 intimate and serious as transitioning in an inconsistent, nonchalant manner. And what this

00:38:38.760 person means by this, if you haven't seen the documentary, I encourage you to do so.

00:38:42.580 She basically just says, yeah, kids can go on puberty blockers when he or she feels that he

00:38:49.700 or she wants to. And actually, she probably doesn't say he or she. She probably says when they want to.

00:38:55.460 So really, it's based on the feelings of a child who, again, doesn't even have anything close to a

00:39:00.100 developed brain. And as Matt points out in the documentary, kids think that there are a lot of

00:39:05.260 things when they're young. And in fact, they are not. And it is the responsibility, the role of adults to

00:39:11.220 guide them towards reality, not allow them to ruin themselves and to hurt themselves based on a

00:39:16.860 delusion. She's this person says, what I took issue with was the fact that she claims purity 0.89

00:39:23.260 blockers are completely reversible and don't have permitted effects. This is an ever increasingly

00:39:27.300 common narrative. And it's a fallacy with medical data lawsuits and personal reported experiences

00:39:31.880 directly contradicting it. And then he links some of those studies. And that's absolutely true.

00:39:38.160 We know for a fact that puberty blockers do have irreversible effects on young people. And we

00:39:47.100 actually quoted an expert, a very pro-gender switching surgeon who said that young men who

00:39:59.020 take puberty blockers and then receive these cross-sex hormones, that they are never able to achieve 0.98

00:40:05.260 orgasm. They can't even really have any kind of sexual stimulation because of the medication that

00:40:11.220 they went through as a young person or that they took as a young person in order to try and fail to

00:40:16.980 change their gender. Jaden says, at age 16, I was prescribed a spironolactone, a common testosterone

00:40:27.020 blocker for nearly a year. I'd struggle as I'd continue to take the medication, but have consistently high

00:40:33.360 T levels. An OBGYN swapped my testosterone blockers for a GNRH agonist implant known as

00:40:42.200 histrelin. In the coming years, I've experienced physical, mental, and sexual changes I could never

00:40:47.080 imagine. Jaden developed and still struggles with muscular atrophy, metabolic issues, bone density

00:40:53.500 concerns after having his testosterone permanently blocked by this GNRH. The lack of physical development

00:40:59.820 and sexual maturation I experienced during puberty is irreversible. Even when taking testosterone

00:41:05.560 replacement therapy, the fertility issues and eventual decimation of my fertility altogether will

00:41:11.160 never be rebounded. So we're talking permanent sterilization here. That is the consequence of

00:41:18.400 messing with a child's natural puberty process. Like we don't ever stop to ask, oh, maybe a person goes

00:41:26.720 through puberty for a reason? Like maybe there are some consequences to stopping any kind of natural

00:41:31.440 process. By the way, that's the entirety of the sexual revolution. The entirety of the sexual

00:41:36.380 revolution is never stopping to ask, maybe there is a reason why the natural process works the way it

00:41:43.660 does. Like maybe there is a reason the natural family always looked like mom, dad, child. Maybe there

00:41:49.440 is a reason reproduction requires a sperm and an egg. Like maybe there's not just a physical reason for

00:41:55.640 that, a scientific reason for that. Maybe there's also a psychological and social reason for that.

00:42:00.420 Like maybe we shouldn't be messing with the thing that has worked for all of human history for

00:42:06.400 millennia. But in the world of progressivism, social whims, whatever adults want, always trump

00:42:13.420 science. They trump facts. They trump God. They trump morality. And the problem is, is that human nature,

00:42:21.400 biology is like a beach ball. We can keep trying to push it down with hormone blockers. We can try to

00:42:26.720 change the language. We can try to use propaganda, like trans women are women, to try to push this 1.00

00:42:32.940 beach ball down. It's going to keep popping back up. It's going to pop up in, by man, it's going to,

00:42:40.180 that popping up is going to manifest itself in the damaged bodies and minds and lives of young people.

00:42:47.040 Jaden also says after starting estrogen injections, he started dealing with vascular issues and what is

00:42:52.260 likely nerve damage in his legs. He noticed a loss of libido in the first weeks of taking blockers and

00:42:57.600 started to feel as if he wasn't equipped to handle his emotions. He had brain fog, memory issues,

00:43:01.880 trouble concentrating and depression and dropped out of school. This is the reason, by the way,

00:43:07.660 so many so-called trans kids commit suicide. It is not because of a lack of acceptance. It's not because

00:43:14.020 of a lack of tolerance. It is because you're not supposed to mess with your hormones like that.

00:43:20.560 You're not supposed to mess with your puberty process. You're not supposed to mess with your

00:43:24.240 body in this way. This is a form of mutilation that, of course, is going to lead to depression

00:43:28.200 for so many reasons. Just the confusion and if it's true dysphoria, the dysphoria itself can lead

00:43:34.300 to depression, but also the jacking with your body and the natural processes that your body is supposed

00:43:40.460 to go through. I mean, that is also going to lead to depression and anxiety and suicide.

00:43:46.840 So the loving position, the right position, the truthful position is to be against this stuff.

00:43:53.640 Fox News is so far gone if they are going to embrace things like this. Look, I'm thankful for

00:43:59.680 the platform that Fox News has given me. Again, I think it has an important place in conservative

00:44:04.600 media, but it's a good reminder that you can't look to any corporation, any institution to be your

00:44:13.080 moral exemplar and to stand for truth. And I will go a step further is that it's not just that if an

00:44:21.000 entity isn't actively conservative, they will become liberal. I would argue if an entity isn't

00:44:27.160 actively Christian, it will eventually become liberal because culture and politics are both

00:44:34.040 downstream from theology. Whether you believe in God or not, if you don't believe in God, that is

00:44:39.600 still a form of theology. Your theology is that you don't believe in a God. That's going to inform

00:44:44.260 what you think about politics and culture. If you do believe in God, if you believe in the first verse

00:44:49.500 or the first chapter of the first book of the Bible, that God created the heavens and the earth,

00:44:55.760 then that is also going to inform what you think about culture and politics. So I would argue

00:45:01.260 if an entity does not have a firm foundation in God, does not have a firm foundation in Genesis,

00:45:09.600 a firm foundation in the word of God, then it will eventually give way to social pressure and social

00:45:18.120 whims because why not? That is why while I am happy to link arms with like unwoke liberals who are at least

00:45:25.900 for free speech and for diversity of thought and are not insane about the gender thing, they're a little

00:45:33.760 bit more nuanced. At the end of the day, I do not believe that being unwoke is good enough. I don't

00:45:42.140 believe that you can build a simply unwoke world. You have to replace it with something else and

00:45:48.580 whatever you replace it with has to have a firm foundation. Being unwoke or just being like

00:45:54.940 unconditionally tolerant we've already seen is not a firm foundation. That's why we are where we are

00:46:00.540 actually. So I'm not talking about a theocracy. I'm not talking about forcing people to be Christians

00:46:06.140 or having like a state-sanctioned religion. I am for us deciding, okay, like what do we want to build

00:46:13.060 on? Like where are we getting our definition of truth? Where are we getting our definition of

00:46:17.320 justice? I say, as all of Western civilization has said until relatively recently, that the Bible

00:46:25.600 is a great place to get that foundation. And in fact, the only place to get that foundation,

00:46:30.920 it is godlessness and scripturelessness that has brought us to where we are today. That's what it all

00:46:40.700 fully comes down to. We can have scientific and moral and philosophical, political, cultural

00:46:45.060 conversations, absolutely. But at the end of the day, it comes down to who you think made us.

00:46:51.340 Who's in charge? Why are we here? What are human beings? The more we deny the foundational concept,

00:46:59.920 which has been foundational not just to Christianity, but also to Western civilization,

00:47:04.280 that human beings are made in the image of God, that we are not self-creating, that we are not

00:47:07.780 self-declaring, that we are not self-identifying, but that we were created by God who tells us who we

00:47:13.100 are and what we are for, and even what our rights are, the more we will spiral, not just into moral

00:47:19.360 anarchy and confusion and chaos, but also into tyranny. We will always look for someone to lead us.

00:47:26.340 We will always look for someone to tell us what to do, to give us some guidance. And if it's not God,

00:47:34.660 it's going to be yourself, it's going to be the government. And we've seen where that leads. The

00:47:40.080 20th century tells us exactly where that goes. All right, we've got a lot of good episodes coming

00:47:47.260 up this week. Tomorrow, we will be talking to Senator Marco Rubio. If you've got questions for

00:47:52.860 him about any legislation or any particular issue or policy, then please shoot me a message on

00:47:59.260 Instagram. I will try to ask him some of the questions that you guys suggest. We've got other

00:48:05.380 good interviews coming your way this week. And once again, a reminder that I will be on,

00:48:12.540 I will be out next week. We're just taking another summer break, but I think we will have two new

00:48:16.700 episodes for you that we will pre-record that will come out. I'll probably do some kind of like

00:48:21.160 emergency something if Roe v. Wade or if the Dobbs decision is published next week, but I'm hoping and

00:48:28.520 praying that it happens the next week. So I'll be able to give you a proper and formal episode

00:48:34.300 on that. Also, another thing to pray for, the Southern Baptist Convention is meeting this week

00:48:39.820 in Anaheim, California. Go listen to last week's episode about the Southern Baptist Convention and

00:48:45.740 why this conference matters, why picking the SBC. President actually matters. It matters not just to

00:48:51.500 the country, but also to the world, because as Pastor Tom Askell pointed out last week,

00:48:55.540 the SBC is exporting its Christianity and its theology to the world through world missions.

00:49:03.380 And so, and it's also the largest denomination in the country. So whether you are a Southern

00:49:07.240 Baptist or not, it is very consequential which direction the denomination goes. So we talked

00:49:13.080 about that. We talked about the sexual abuse report last week. Go listen to that and also just

00:49:17.800 pray that wisdom and that God's grace would prevail in Anaheim, California.

00:49:23.780 Um, this week. All right. I think that's all I've got. As always, if you love this podcast,

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 13, 2022

Ep 628 ｜ Et Tu, Fox News？

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