Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 640 ｜ Making Sense of Chaos in the UK, the Netherlands & Sri Lanka ｜ Guest： Calvin Robinson

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00:00:21.180 Okay, today we are going to take a look at what is going on outside the United States.

00:00:27.700 Most of our focus is what is going on in our home, but we need to look at also the happenings

00:00:36.220 abroad because there's some big stuff going on that will have implications for us here in the

00:00:43.240 U.S. We are going to look at the Boris Johnson resignation in the U.K. We will be talking to

00:00:48.820 one of my favorite guests, and that is Calvin Robinson. If you haven't listened to my previous

00:00:53.940 interview with him, please go back and listen to that. We can link it in the description of this

00:00:58.120 episode. But he's going to tell us what it means that the Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, has said

00:01:03.180 that he is stepping down, what that means for the U.K., what the process is going to be of replacing

00:01:08.800 him, who are the possible replacements, why is he stepping down, but also what are the real reasons

00:01:13.600 behind why he's stepping down. We are also going to look at the Church of England. The Church of

00:01:17.840 England recently said that they cannot answer the question of what a woman is. Very sad. Calvin

00:01:25.560 Robinson is a very clear thinker and speaker, and so he is going to break down what all of this means

00:01:31.500 for us and why it matters. But before we get into the conversation with Calvin Robinson, I do want to

00:01:38.180 talk to you about two other big things that are going on in the world, and that is what is going on in

00:01:43.080 the Netherlands with the Dutch farmers' protests, and also what is going on in Sri Lanka. You've

00:01:50.860 probably seen that there is a literal insurrection going on in Sri Lanka. The people there are taking

00:01:57.060 over the palace of the Sri Lankan leaders. I mean, it's wild. So we're going to get into all of that.

00:02:03.900 I'm just kind of going to give you a brief explanation, though, of what's going on. We will take a deeper

00:02:08.900 look into these happenings in a future episode. We'll probably have some people who are experts

00:02:17.240 in these fields come on and really tell us what is going on on the ground there. But I just kind of

00:02:22.360 want to give us an idea of everything that is happening. Then after the conversation with Calvin

00:02:26.900 Robinson, we will also have a little outro where I'll give us a bigger picture perspective. So first,

00:02:35.200 let me talk about this Dutch farmers' protest. And if you're watching on YouTube, we can put some

00:02:40.240 images and maybe some silent footage up so you can really see what's going on. But you've probably

00:02:47.320 seen on Twitter that these videos of what look like hundreds, if not thousands, of tractors and

00:02:55.980 trucks that are on the road and they're protesting. So why is this happening? This is according to

00:03:03.120 France 24. 40,000 farmers gathered last week in the central Netherlands agricultural heartland

00:03:09.040 to protest the government's plan to cut emissions of, quote, damaging pollutants,

00:03:13.980 which will probably force farmers to cut their livestock herds or stop working altogether.

00:03:19.520 The government is proposing measures to cut nitrogen oxide and ammonia, both of which are produced by

00:03:24.180 livestock by 50 percent nationwide by 2030. The government statement,

00:03:30.600 the honest message is that not all of the farmers can continue their business. So the government is

00:03:35.720 actually admitting this, that for these climate change purposes or what they say,

00:03:41.780 what they're doing is for the purpose of stopping or inhibiting climate change. There are going to be

00:03:47.860 farmers that can no longer work, that can no longer provide for their families. And you know that all of

00:03:54.540 our food comes from farms. And even if you are a vegan, the vegetables that you are eating were

00:04:06.000 probably fertilized with the manure from livestock. And so you can see the massive implications that

00:04:13.740 this will have, not just for the farmers, but on Netherlands as a whole and all of the countries who

00:04:18.600 are trying to pursue these same goals. A lot of these things are happening here in the United States

00:04:22.600 as well, not just the implications that it will have on the population as a whole. The government

00:04:29.080 has formerly forced farmers to use feed for animals that contain less protein in order to reduce ammonia

00:04:35.020 emissions. You can also just think for a second about the implications of that, how difficult that

00:04:40.120 would be for the farmers to try to raise cattle and livestock that are going to provide nutrition 0.99

00:04:46.980 for the people that they are selling to. Dutch farmers gathered by tractor in the central

00:04:52.520 Netherlands agricultural heartland, slowing traffic. Farmers drove on crowded highways in

00:04:57.240 their slow tractors or stopped altogether. Some dumped hay bales on roads. Some gathered at the town and

00:05:04.860 city halls and some started bonfires outside buildings. So this is very similar to what happened in

00:05:09.900 Canada with the trucker protest. They were protesting the vaccine mandates and also protesting the lockdowns

00:05:17.900 that, again, stole the livelihoods of many people. And one commonality in these leaders, whether it's

00:05:24.480 Justin Trudeau of Canada or whether it's these Dutch leaders, is the World Economic Forum. You will also hear

00:05:31.160 Calvin and I talk about the World Economic Forum. And you probably know the significance of 2030.

00:05:38.740 If you've listened to my conversations with Justin Haskins about this great global reset that sounds

00:05:45.580 like a conspiracy but is very much not and is being manufactured and engineered by the people at the

00:05:52.660 World Economic Forum, all of this has to do with that. The lockdowns had to do with that. These climate

00:06:00.120 change policies, these green policies have to do with that. We are already starting to see the detrimental

00:06:05.700 effect of that and how these governments are going to have to use force to get people to comply. People

00:06:12.900 are not going to give up their livelihoods easily. People are not going to give up their ability, their

00:06:18.820 right to eat meat easily. So this is going to be an utter catastrophe. And the elites who are trying to push

00:06:25.420 this at the World Economic Forum are not going to let go of their plans easily. And unfortunately,

00:06:31.420 we are even seeing that in this Dutch protest. So let me play you a clip of the police trying to stop

00:06:40.900 these protests by force. So these farmers are completely peaceful. As far as we know, as far as

00:06:56.700 we've seen, as far as being reported, they're not armed. They're not causing some kind of violent

00:07:01.960 insurrection. They are using peaceful means to try to sound the alarm about what is going on. And yet,

00:07:09.280 the police are shooting at them so that they will disperse. I mean, that's very frightening. And I

00:07:16.440 guarantee you, the Dutch leaders say that they are doing so to protect democracy in the same way that

00:07:21.820 Justin Trudeau said that he was going to shut down the bank accounts of the peaceful trucking protesters

00:07:27.760 to try to protect democracy. What do I always say? That when progressives say democracy, they mean

00:07:34.080 authoritarianism that they like. When they say authoritarian or fascist, they actually mean

00:07:39.660 democracy that they don't like. Basically, what this is, and many people have said this, this is

00:07:46.040 a managed decline. Now, the people in charge, as I think Justin Haskins would agree, think that they

00:07:51.800 are helping the world. They think that climate change is the biggest threat that we are facing,

00:07:56.680 that it's an existential threat. And even though most of the population really doesn't care all that much

00:08:02.820 about it, like you might hear leaders like AOC say that they care about climate change, that we need

00:08:08.980 to fight climate change. But really, that's not what people are voting on. People care about their

00:08:13.580 pocketbooks. People care about being able to provide for their families and protect their families.

00:08:19.060 First and foremost, that's what they are going to the voting booth for. They may say that they care

00:08:24.500 about things like climate change, but that's really low on the priority list. But the elites at the World

00:08:30.160 Economic Forum, and I'm talking about people in governments, I'm talking about our government,

00:08:35.180 I'm talking about the governments in Canada, I'm talking about most European leaders. Again,

00:08:38.980 this is not some like group of people who we have conjured up as conspiracy theorists. These

00:08:44.420 are people connected to the World Economic Forum that are meeting regularly to talk about their climate

00:08:49.380 change goals and the policies that they have to put in place to meet those goals. And that is where

00:08:54.880 that is where this reduction of emissions is coming from in place like in places like the Netherlands.

00:09:02.740 That is why this is happening. And they think that they know better than us. They think that they know

00:09:09.420 better than the general population, that the reason that we don't prioritize it is because we're just not

00:09:13.900 smart enough or knowledgeable enough, or we don't see far enough into the future. And that if they just

00:09:18.840 take control, while there will be some pain and what they would call, you know, growing pains or transition

00:09:25.080 pains now, ultimately will end up being better. That is also part of why our gas prices are so high. Now, I'm not

00:09:33.260 saying that Joe Biden is artificially pumping up the gas prices, like I don't think he is calling these oil

00:09:40.720 companies and saying, hey, will you raise the prices of gas, but his green energy policies and the green energy

00:09:47.180 policies that have been put in place for a long time are contributing to the high gas prices. It is not

00:09:52.960 primarily Russia, as we have talked about many times. You can listen to the conversation that I had

00:09:58.060 with my dad where we talked about this. Definitely listen to the conversation that I had with Jackie

00:10:02.940 Daly about this, who is an energy expert. The green policies that he is putting in place, his refusal

00:10:08.840 to allow new leases for these oil and gas companies, that is contributing to the high gas prices. And we have

00:10:16.920 heard his energy secretary say that we are going through a transition period away from oil and gas. This all has

00:10:25.600 to do with this elitist belief that climate change is our biggest threat, and that all of the means justify the

00:10:32.400 ends, even if it comes to mass starvation, which if they keep going in this direction, like they are in the

00:10:38.720 Netherlands, like we will see that. And let me just briefly try to wrap this up on this story. So we can get to the

00:10:46.560 Sri Lanka story. This is according to CNS News. In response to the government's newly announced

00:10:51.400 national program to reduce pollutant emissions, Dutch farmers from across the Netherlands drove

00:10:55.620 their tractors in protest of these agricultural limitations. The Dutch Minister for Nitrogen and

00:11:00.820 Nature Policy, Ms. Christiane van der Waal, laid forth the country's plan to reduce its nitrogen

00:11:06.480 emissions and said that they're going to reduce nitrogen emissions between 12 and 70 percent,

00:11:11.540 depending on the area. Studies conducted by the National Library of Medicine have found

00:11:16.160 the urine and feces of livestock to be major sources of ammonia and nitrous oxide emissions.

00:11:23.240 Since the announcement, protests have broken out across the Netherlands with around 40,000

00:11:27.240 farmers gathering. They've resorted to dumping hay bales or parking tractors in the roads

00:11:32.140 and the roads as a means of blocking traffic. And then there's a dairy farmer who's quoted saying

00:11:38.000 this. I was asked to come here and provide breakfast so we can show we are food producers,

00:11:41.820 not pollution producers. And they have shirts that say no farmers, no food, freedom of speech

00:11:49.200 and the right to demonstrate are a vital part of our democratic society. And I will always defend them.

00:11:53.140 But it is not acceptable to create dangerous situations. It is not acceptable to intimidate

00:11:57.840 officials. We will never accept that, said Prime Minister Root, and a condemnation of the

00:12:03.100 demonstrations. They're always condemning the demonstrations that humiliate them. And that is,

00:12:08.840 of course, what is going on here. And so we'll see how this goes. I commend the Dutch farmers for

00:12:17.360 standing up. Good for them. They show a lot of courage. They show a lot of persistence. May normal,

00:12:24.240 average working people in the world continue to speak up, continue to push back, continue to stand up.

00:12:31.380 Isn't this like workers of the world uniting? And oh, wait, the socialists who are in charge don't

00:12:36.220 like it. Isn't that interesting? Climate change policy has always been a war against the working

00:12:41.120 class. Remember that. All right, let me tell you a little bit about what's going on in Sri Lanka.

00:12:57.060 So protesters have gathered to protest the economic crisis in Sri Lanka. The country is suffering from

00:13:04.060 a severe foreign exchange shortage, which has limited essential imports of fuel, food and medicine.

00:13:10.000 They are almost totally out of oil, of fuel. So that's a problem, obviously. Sri Lanka's inflation 0.59

00:13:16.540 hit 54.6% in June. And quite honestly, America is well on its way. They are seeking a $3 billion

00:13:24.960 bailout from the International Monetary Fund. Protests have been taking place since March.

00:13:31.860 Saturday's protests, which we'll show you the footage of in just a second, is believed to be

00:13:35.360 the largest. Protesters stormed the prime minister's residence and set it on fire. Earlier, they had

00:13:40.600 broken into the president's residence to sit on beds and swim in the pool. Here's a little bit of that.

00:13:45.680 The prime minister and the president, I'm not even going to try to pronounce their last names. You

00:14:00.120 can look it up. They've resigned to allow an all party interim government to take over. Both leaders

00:14:05.340 have been in hiding and announced their resignations from there. Protesters have helped pick up trash from

00:14:09.840 the mansion, sweat the floors, water the plants. So I think they're trying to say, look, we're not trying

00:14:14.020 to be destructive and deadly. We're just trying to make a point that our government, for lack of a

00:14:18.400 better term, is basically screwing us right now. And this is a theme that we have seen throughout

00:14:23.560 the world, especially over the past few years. We have seen what you might call a populist pushback,

00:14:30.400 a pushback of the people against their leaders who do not have their best interests at heart.

00:14:35.400 What you are going to see, if these protests are at all effective, is a pendulum swing towards

00:14:44.460 nationalism. And I know people get super scared about that term nationalism because they've been

00:14:50.380 indoctrinated to believe that it's the same thing as fascism and that somehow this has to do with like

00:14:56.480 some Hitlerian takeover. It doesn't have to do with that. Nationalism is putting the interests of 0.76

00:15:03.080 your people first, putting the interests, the sovereignty, the protection, the provision of

00:15:07.480 your country, of your citizens, of your borders first. That is the exact opposite of what is

00:15:14.400 happening here in the United States, the exact opposite of what is happening in many countries

00:15:19.300 in which the leaders are selling out their people for the interests of the economic global elite

00:15:27.220 at the World Economic Forum and also for their own selfish interests. The UN is behind this,

00:15:32.480 the WHO is behind this. All of this serves in the interests of what is soon to be the greatest

00:15:38.480 global superpower, and that is China. And frankly, if we continue going in that globalist direction,

00:15:45.860 things look really scary for the populace. Things look really scary for the masses because if they're,

00:15:52.640 at least the pretense of their goal is, you know, fighting climate change, then we know that one of the

00:16:01.400 sub-goals, one of the goals that helps them achieve that ultimate goal is reducing the population. I

00:16:07.680 mean, Bill Gates has literally been talking about this for decades. The problem of overpopulation,

00:16:12.980 it's not just him. It's all of these. I hate to use the term elites because I know there's like a

00:16:19.200 conspiratorial association with that word, but I don't know what else to call them. I'm talking about

00:16:24.500 global leaders and politicians and billionaires and moguls who all have the same kind of agenda

00:16:31.320 at heart. And one part of that agenda is depopulation, this Malthusian myth of overpopulation,

00:16:40.280 which we have debunked several times in which Elon Musk, with all of his faults and failures,

00:16:45.600 has also talked about that. It is actually a myth that we are overpopulated as a world and that

00:16:52.240 actually we have a much greater danger that we're facing of population decline rather than

00:16:59.260 overpopulation. By the way, just an aside, the Elon Musk Twitter deal, it seems to have fallen

00:17:05.220 through, but they're going to court over it. Twitter's now trying to force the deal. So we're

00:17:09.620 going to see how that goes. We don't have time to talk about all of that today. But what we're seeing

00:17:15.180 is at least the effort of the people to push the pendulum in the other direction. You are going to see

00:17:21.720 people wanting nationalism, wanting closed borders, wanting immigration moratoriums,

00:17:28.800 wanting strong leaders who say enough, enough with trying to serve the interests of the global

00:17:34.840 elites. We are going to care about the working classes in this country. We are going to care

00:17:39.340 about the citizens of this country. As I said, that's the exact opposite of what is happening right

00:17:44.580 now under Joe Biden. I'm not convinced that Joe Biden is calling the shots himself,

00:17:48.620 but he is a weak and willing vessel. And so that's why he is allowing the borders to be wide open.

00:17:56.420 That is why he is allowing the chaos that is raining in the streets of the United States. That's why

00:18:01.720 he is shipping the barrels of oil that were in our strategic reserves that were released

00:18:06.840 for our benefit, or we were told that they were released for our benefit so that the price of gas

00:18:12.720 would go down, they are being sold to China, or many barrels of oil are being sold to China. Not all

00:18:18.820 of them. It is why he is constantly putting the interests of other countries and the citizens of

00:18:23.260 other countries before our own. It is an anti-nationalism movement that we are seeing in

00:18:30.160 our government and in many governments. And I think the people have had enough. And so we're going to see

00:18:35.940 the consequence of that. You can expect that the people in power who have been investing in this

00:18:42.480 globalist movement for decades are going to be pushing back hard. As I said, we are seeing that

00:18:49.200 in the Netherlands. We're probably going to see that in Sri Lanka. We certainly saw that in Canada.

00:18:54.680 They're not going to let this go easily. I think that we have a scary and rough road ahead. I don't know

00:19:01.240 what that's going to look like. But hey, God bless these protesters, peaceful protesters. God bless

00:19:07.320 them for standing up and for being strong, knowing that they are going to get pushed back from their

00:19:12.240 government. I mean, those Dutch farmers were literally shot at by the police. So thank God for 0.98

00:19:18.100 their courage. I hope that that courage catches fire, that it continues to be contagious, and that

00:19:23.200 people continue to stand up, and that we have a little bit of a backbone in the United States

00:19:27.000 to peacefully protest and stand up against what we're seeing here, the powers that be that are

00:19:35.660 selling out their own people for their own interests.

00:19:51.200 Calvin, thank you so much for joining us again. Before we get started in breaking down everything

00:19:56.820 that's happening over there, can you tell us why you're running a few minutes late?

00:20:03.120 I think I got here just on the door. I heard the computer call as I walked through the door.

00:20:07.760 But yeah, I got lost in Winston Churchill's bunker. So I was down in the war rooms, and it's like a

00:20:12.760 labyrinth down there. Honestly, everywhere you turn, there's a hidden place with desks or beds.

00:20:17.920 And it's obviously where he lived and worked throughout World War II. So it's a nice place to get lost. 0.95

00:20:23.700 But I was like, I'm not going to make it out. I'm going to be late for Ali.

00:20:26.600 Oh, my goodness. That's a very British reason for running late. But as you said, you were right.

00:20:31.560 You were right on time. But I'm glad that you were able to tell us that story.

00:20:35.220 All right. Speaking of...

00:20:36.700 I was down there, Ali, because I was listening to a couple of the parliamentary candidates

00:20:41.380 talking about why they make the best prime minister. So I heard speeches from Suella Braverman

00:20:46.460 and Nadeem Zahawi. Very, very different.

00:20:51.280 Oh, so it wasn't just that you were exploring down there just for fun.

00:20:56.080 No, no, no. I'm always working.

00:20:58.360 There are political professional reasons for it. I got it. All right. Well, tell us then,

00:21:02.220 what is going on? I mean, why? You just said that why you were down there in the bunker. But tell us

00:21:08.180 why that's going on. Why were you listening to these candidates? What the heck is happening?

00:21:12.500 Right. I mean, where to begin? Boris Johnson has been ousted or has he? He's still the prime

00:21:19.180 minister. He's still living in number 10 Downing Street. He says he'll be the caretaker prime

00:21:24.380 minister until a new one is selected around September, which I think could actually give

00:21:30.260 him some time to try and win people over. I don't know. I'm not convinced he actually wants to leave.

00:21:34.480 I think he wants to be dragged out kicking and screaming. But he's been, you know, the coup took

00:21:39.160 place because, well, they say because of moral reasons. So there's been a few scandals lately.

00:21:46.260 One of them was that Boris Johnson was caught eating birthday cake during lockdown. Now,

00:21:52.900 the media spun that as a birthday party in his honour. However, it seems after the investigation

00:21:58.980 that really, truly, there was a meeting and then five minutes after someone presented him a cake,

00:22:04.040 he ate a slice of it and left after another five minutes. It wasn't the kind of party that I'm

00:22:07.820 used to going to anyway. But the media have been on his case since, well, before then,

00:22:12.900 but they've used that as a stick to beat him with. So there's been a sustained campaign against the

00:22:17.740 prime minister from the mainstream media, who were obviously lefty liberals and do not like him.

00:22:22.340 But then the most recent scandal was this parliamentarian that pinched, his name is Chris

00:22:27.640 Pinscher, and he pinched two other people's bottoms. I don't know if you use that colloquialism in

00:22:33.640 America. But he pinched their derrieres in a gentleman's club, and the prime minister didn't

00:22:40.260 deal with it appropriately. So they've used this as another stick to beat him with. But what's

00:22:45.400 happened is a lot of parliamentarians around Boris Johnson have said, oh, you know, he either,

00:22:49.860 you know, he lied, he covered it up, he's, you know, his moral standards are slipping.

00:22:54.720 But Boris Johnson never really had any moral standards. You know, I'm sorry to say that,

00:22:59.620 but we elected him for a few big reasons. One of them was to get Brexit done. But we knew when we

00:23:06.020 elected Boris Johnson as our prime minister that he had, you know, he's on his third marriage now,

00:23:10.860 we knew that, well, we didn't know, we still don't know how many children he has. Imagine that,

00:23:15.240 a prime minister of your country, you don't actually know how many children he has. But

00:23:18.320 the point is, we knew he wasn't the most moral chap, but we knew he was a strong leader.

00:23:23.160 And actually, Boris Johnson helped oust the previous prime minister, Theresa May,

00:23:27.260 probably the most moral leader we've had in this country. You know, she's a vicar's daughter.

00:23:32.360 She's never done anything wrong, as far as anyone can find. But she didn't have the strength

00:23:36.980 to get Brexit done. And that was what was important to us at the time.

00:23:40.640 So very similar to why many Americans voted for Donald Trump. It wasn't because he was a moral

00:23:46.260 exemplar, but because he exemplified the strength that a lot of people thought was necessary to turn

00:23:52.000 the country in the right direction. What's strange is that he is resigning over what seems like

00:23:59.960 relatively small infractions, at least relative to other scandals that we see political leaders

00:24:07.340 embroiled in other scandals in his own life, as you just mentioned. And certainly, it's different than

00:24:12.920 here in the United States. I mean, there are politicians who have been found guilty of much,

00:24:18.120 much worse than what people are saying Boris Johnson is guilty of. And they have been, you know,

00:24:24.380 they have been able to carry on with impunity. So what do you think is really going on here?

00:24:29.980 Is it really that the British people are this fed up or that they are this disappointed in him morally?

00:24:36.480 What's really underneath this?

00:24:38.540 Well, that's a good question. So it's not the British people. The British people haven't had a say 1.00

00:24:41.500 in this, actually.

00:24:42.820 Right. So the Conservative Party?

00:24:44.860 Yeah. So it's the party. So the politicians, they follow a herd mentality. So a number of key

00:24:49.680 high-profile politicians resigned, and then more resigned, and then more resigned. They just go

00:24:54.460 along with the flow, which is quite sad to see from our, you know, political leaders. But the country,

00:25:00.240 a lot of people in the country still support Boris Johnson. I get emails and tweets all the time

00:25:04.420 saying, you know, what they've done is treacherous. So it's interesting the divide between our

00:25:09.000 parliamentarians and the British public. I'm hoping that it's not this, but I think it is partly due

00:25:15.360 to a sustained campaign by the mainstream media, partly due to the Remain camp in Parliament that

00:25:21.320 did not want to see Brexit done and will do whatever they can do to rejoin the European Union.

00:25:27.200 And of course, there are people that would want Boris Johnson's job, and not to mention Boris Johnson's

00:25:32.400 former chief advisor, Dominic Cummings, who was a political genius, but got booted out

00:25:38.800 due to conflicts with Boris Johnson's wife. So he's held a vendetta against Boris Johnson ever

00:25:44.720 since, quite publicly. You know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist here. He's had a grudge

00:25:49.300 to bear, let's say. So there are many, many elements working against Boris Johnson. And I'm

00:25:53.040 not supportive or against him at the moment. I'm just trying to report the situation. But it does

00:25:57.340 mean that we're going to have to select a new parliamentarian to run for the leader of the

00:26:02.040 Conservative Party, which will indeed become the prime minister, because the Conservatives still have

00:26:06.660 a big majority. Are Conservatives frustrated that Boris Johnson kind of went along with what a lot

00:26:14.800 of liberals or leftists wanted countries to do when it comes to restrictions and locking people down?

00:26:20.860 I mean, you mentioned that people wanted him in power because he was strong, because he kind of

00:26:26.160 bucked the system. Then when it came to COVID, he kind of just went along with what a lot of liberal

00:26:31.180 leaders here in the United States wanted as well. Is that part of this at all?

00:26:36.000 Yes, that is absolutely the key. So if there was a reason to get rid of Boris Johnson, it would be for,

00:26:41.040 you know, taking away our civil liberties, for not doing what the core job of government is to do,

00:26:45.940 protect its citizens. And he should have stood up for our rights rather than going along with

00:26:50.960 the Chinese Communist Party's ideology of locking down subjects. I don't think it's appropriate.

00:26:56.700 You know, it hadn't been done in the Western world until Italy copied China and then we copied Italy

00:27:01.260 and then it just snowballed from there and everyone was doing it. But it's not, you know,

00:27:04.760 we had a rule book on how to approach pandemics. We threw it out the window and panicked. And I think

00:27:10.820 Boris Johnson's libertarian values told him at the start, his gut would have told him this was wrong.

00:27:15.980 And in fact, we've heard this from insiders that at first he didn't want to do lockdowns. He wanted to,

00:27:20.740 you know, let the virus rip, so to speak, and let people build a natural immunity. And I think,

00:27:25.380 actually, we probably would have been better off if he'd have done that. But he was scared of the

00:27:28.680 political implications and went along with a lot of the people around him at the time who were

00:27:33.020 advising him, no, you need to lock down. That is the greatest shame. If there was a reason to get

00:27:36.900 rid of him, it was for that. And also the vaccine mandates, the idea that a government can tell you

00:27:41.880 what to do with your body. You know, a liberal government of all governments that should be

00:27:45.680 protecting people's bodily autonomy suddenly says, no, you have to have this vaccine, otherwise you lose

00:27:50.820 your job. That is terrible. So for those two reasons, I would have admired people trying to

00:27:55.620 oust him. But over the reasons they've chosen, it's disgusting. It's all a complete mess, really. 0.88

00:27:59.520 The whole politics is upside down right now.

00:28:01.580 Yeah, well, we're used to the upside downness of politics here in the United States. So what is the

00:28:06.860 replacement process look like? What does it look like there between now and I think you said September?

00:28:14.340 Right. So it's a bit of a stitch up. The way our system works in the Conservative Party, and remember,

00:28:21.620 we're electing a Conservative Party leader. We're not necessarily electing a Prime Minister. That just

00:28:25.620 happens by default. But to elect a new party leader, the parliamentarians, so the Conservative MPs,

00:28:31.340 get to narrow down from all of the people that have put themselves forward. And then they present

00:28:35.960 a list of candidates to the membership. So people who are Conservative Party members,

00:28:40.320 and then they get to vote on who their leader should be. That is great. That's democratic. However,

00:28:44.940 the stitch up here is that the parliamentarians want to whittle it down to two candidates.

00:28:49.620 I don't think that's enough. I think the membership should get a vote on every single

00:28:52.820 parliamentarian that's put their name forward to become leader. Because what we're going to see is

00:28:56.280 the WAF, you know, the elite are going to have their preferred candidate, and they're going to put them

00:29:01.520 up against someone who is not of the same calibre. And we're going to end up with another

00:29:07.280 globalist elite as our Prime Minister. And I don't think that's what people want. I think

00:29:11.820 if we could vote amongst ourselves, vote amongst the members, there are quite a, there's a couple

00:29:16.220 of good actually Conservatives, actual Conservatives, who have put their names forward.

00:29:20.980 And would you say that Boris Johnson is considered a WEF, World Economic Forum

00:29:24.860 elite, that the elites would want in power?

00:29:30.520 I don't think so. Some people do. I don't think so. I think the people around him are,

00:29:34.000 a lot of them are. Rishi Sunak, he is the favourite to win at the moment. He's,

00:29:38.820 you know, he's got his profile up on the WEF website, and he's very much of that calibre.

00:29:44.780 There are a number of them there. Nadeem Zahawi, Sajid Javid, these are both people that wanted to

00:29:50.880 push for more lockdown. Sajid wanted a Christmas lockdown over Omicron. You know, it's a bad cold,

00:29:55.260 for goodness sake. And Nadeem Zahawi was pushing vaccines on children, even though he was the

00:30:00.300 education minister, all of these people around Boris, his cabinet, his senior ministers, our WEF.

00:30:05.580 I think one of the reasons that Boris Johnson has been ousted is because he wasn't towing the line.

00:30:11.920 Boris realised that he could no longer push for further lockdowns because the people were

00:30:16.100 against him. And Boris is someone that cares most about what other people think of him. He's a bit

00:30:21.060 of a populist in that sense. So he stopped towing the line. And I think that's the start of the

00:30:25.300 end for him, really.

00:30:37.200 And do you think that Kimi Badenoch, she's a possible replacement? Do you think that she

00:30:41.760 has a good chance?

00:30:43.920 Yes, I think that as far as I'm concerned, there are very few names that actually stand out as true

00:30:49.700 conservatives. And Kimi Badenoch is one of them. You know, she fought against number 10 down the street. 1.00

00:30:55.040 She fought against the government on the issue around Black Lives Matter. When everyone else was 0.98

00:30:59.140 either very cautious and saying nothing or openly supporting Black Lives Matter, Kimi came out and

00:31:04.940 said, no, they're adopting the divisive language of critical race theory. It's counterintuitive.

00:31:10.120 It's harmful for our social cohesion. It's not something we should be addressing. Let's look

00:31:14.760 deeper at the evidence. And she put together an independent report, the Sewell report or the

00:31:19.780 Pred reports that looked into racial disparities in our country, didn't find any evidence of

00:31:24.580 institutional racism, but found many racial disparities and looked deeper and found that

00:31:29.120 actually, whenever there was a racial disparity, it wasn't always down to racism. It was quite often

00:31:33.980 down to many other socioeconomic factors, including wealth, geography, class, class played a big impact.

00:31:40.560 But that's what I like. Someone who's willing to go against the grain, look at the facts,

00:31:45.340 be evidence informed and not afraid to speak the truth. And that is the principle. But Kimi's

00:31:50.600 running on a platform of truth. And for so long, our politicians have been saying what they think

00:31:55.580 they want us to hear, what they think the focus groups say we want to hear. But she will just say

00:32:00.380 what she knows to be the truth. And I admire that.

00:32:02.400 She gave a speech a couple years ago against BLM. And so we'll play a little bit of that right now.

00:32:09.660 What we are against is the teaching of contested political ideas as if they are accepted facts.

00:32:16.780 We don't do this with communism. We don't do this with socialism. We don't do it with capitalism.

00:32:21.240 And I want to speak about a dangerous trend in race relations that has come far too close to

00:32:27.000 home to my life. And it is the promotion of critical race theory, an ideology that sees

00:32:31.940 my blackness as victimhood and their whiteness as oppression. I want to be absolutely clear, 0.96

00:32:36.980 this government stands unequivocally against critical race theory. Some schools have decided

00:32:42.600 to openly support the anti-capitalist Black Lives Matter group, often fully aware that they have 0.52

00:32:47.240 a statutory duty to be politically impartial.

00:32:49.940 I really appreciate her no-nonsense approach to and doing exactly what you just said, which is

00:32:55.880 looking underneath the headline of these disparities exist and actually asking the question,

00:33:01.720 why do these disparities exist? You're probably aware of Thomas Sowell. He wrote a book called

00:33:06.820 Discrimination and Disparities, where basically he makes that argument that disparities are not in

00:33:12.120 themselves evidence of discrimination. And when you refuse to look at the reasons for disparities

00:33:17.880 beyond potential discrimination, you actually do a disservice to the people who are suffering from

00:33:23.580 the disparities because you're not willing to look at the actual cause. So I think certainly

00:33:28.280 that you all would benefit from that kind of leadership. Now, is it possible that, because I

00:33:34.420 really don't know very much about this process, is it possible that the new prime minister is not

00:33:39.400 from the Conservative Party?

00:33:41.860 No, no, it has to be a Conservative from the Conservative Party. But you're right to mention Thomas Sowell. I think

00:33:46.800 he is fantastic. I've hoped to meet him one day. I understand he lives a reclusive life at the

00:33:52.400 moment. But so Kemi Badenoch quoted Thomas Sowell in her campaign launch, as well as quoting St. John

00:33:58.980 from the Gospel of John. So I thought that was, you know, those two points stood out for me in

00:34:02.860 particular. I don't think Kemi is a practicing Christian, but I don't think any of the leadership

00:34:06.720 candidates are. That is a great shame that we might end up with a prime minister for the first time

00:34:11.320 in decades that isn't a Christian. That would be a great shame. But at least we can take one that 1.00

00:34:16.660 takes Christian values and sees them as the same as conservative values and runs with them.

00:34:22.860 So why does the prime minister have to be from the Conservative Party?

00:34:27.140 Just because the Conservative Party have a majority as of the last general election. So it's the

00:34:32.540 Conservative leader that approaches Her Majesty the Queen and says, I have the number of MPs supporting me

00:34:40.020 in order to make a government. And then Her Majesty the Queen asks the leader of the Conservative Party

00:34:44.620 to make a government, to form a government. And because it's the Conservative Party leader that's

00:34:49.920 resigned, not necessarily the prime minister, we now elect a new leader of the party and the party

00:34:55.060 still holds an 80 seat majority. So therefore, by default, they'll go to meet the Queen and say,

00:35:00.560 and she'll request them to form a government. It's a little bit complicated. But after that,

00:35:05.340 it can seem a little undemocratic because British people haven't voted for this person. But we don't

00:35:12.200 really vote for a president in this country. We vote for our local representative. And the local

00:35:15.900 representatives belong to a party. And then we add up the numbers of the party and see which party has

00:35:20.220 the most local reps in Parliament. However, usually after a situation like this, the new party leader,

00:35:27.320 once they are asked to form a government by Her Majesty the Queen, they will hold a general election just to

00:35:33.800 get a mandate from the people just so it has the appearance of democracy so that people actually

00:35:38.040 can have a say. Even though, again, you're not voting for that leader, you're voting for your

00:35:42.000 local rep. But still, people want to feel like they have an impact.

00:35:46.020 All right, let's shift gears and talk quickly about the Church of England refusing to say what a woman 1.00

00:35:51.320 is. I know that you've commented on this. Bishop Dr. Robert Innes, I think that's how you pronounce

00:35:56.740 his last name, said this. There is no official definition, which reflects the fact that until fairly

00:36:02.320 recently, definitions of this kind were thought to be self-evident as reflected in the marriage

00:36:09.400 liturgy. Tell us what you think of that.

00:36:14.500 Well, I'll tell you what I think of that. Genesis 1.27, so God created man in his own image. In the

00:36:20.500 image of God created he him. Male and female created he them. Genesis 5.2, male and female created he them

00:36:27.860 and blessed them and called their name Adam in the day when they were created. Mark 10.6,

00:36:33.820 but from the beginning of creation God made them male and female. And Matthew 19.4, and he answered

00:36:41.280 and said unto them, have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female?

00:36:49.400 And that question there, have ye not read, is vitally important because I don't think the people

00:36:53.240 saying that they don't know what a woman is, I don't think they've read the Bible. They've probably read

00:36:56.280 Karl Marx, but not the Bible. It's ridiculous to suggest they don't know what a woman is. 0.94

00:37:00.400 Right. And a lot of progressives, at least here, like to say that Jesus had nothing to say about

00:37:05.680 sex. Jesus had nothing to say about gender. But of course, as you just read, Matthew 19.4-5 is the

00:37:12.040 verse that I, or verses that I typically cite when he's talking about divorce. Have you not read that

00:37:17.260 in the beginning God made them male and female? And so Jesus obviously had something to say about the

00:37:24.500 definition of sex, about the definition of marriage. And then of course, the whole of the Bible is God's

00:37:28.620 word. And if Jesus is God, then everything that God says, Jesus says to and agrees with.

00:37:33.600 Oh, I mean...

00:37:33.900 That right there. Thank you, Annie. I got into a battle on Twitter last night with a Church of 0.92

00:37:38.120 England vicar who was saying, just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean it's true.

00:37:41.400 Oh, Lord.

00:37:43.020 This is an ordained minister in the Church of England. And I'm quoting, not just quoting from

00:37:48.620 scripture, I'm quoting Jesus's words right here. I mean, if you don't believe the whole Bible is

00:37:52.940 God's word, at least this bit should be. It's bonkers to me that we've gone so far with these

00:37:58.280 progressives that they want to bend the faith so far to make it fit societal norms that they're

00:38:03.800 willing to disregard the Bible.

00:38:06.240 Yes. I often say that if you are going to deny the fundamental reality that we see in Genesis 1,

00:38:13.560 it's only a matter of time before someone denies a much more controversial truth, which is

00:38:19.380 John 14, 6, that Jesus is the way, the truth, the life, and that no one comes to the Father except

00:38:24.040 through him. That is the controversial message of the Bible, that we are all sinners in need of

00:38:32.020 a Savior, which is typically why those things go hand in hand. Like you deny Genesis 1, you end up

00:38:37.740 denying the authority of God in general. So why would someone even call themselves a Christian at that 0.93

00:38:42.260 point?

00:38:42.520 It's funny. I preached on that verse of John on Sunday, just gone. But you're absolutely right.

00:38:48.260 It comes to my mind that these people who say that the Bible isn't entirely true, which bits

00:38:53.380 do they think is true? Is it the bits that they like? And how do you decide what's worth following

00:38:58.000 and what's not worth following? It sounds like idolatry to me. It sounds like they're putting their

00:39:01.720 ego before God. They're making gods out of themselves, aren't they really?

00:39:05.960 Yes, yes, absolutely. Exchanging the God of Scripture for the God of self. And we've seen 0.55

00:39:11.540 a lot of implications of that. Tell me what you think the consequences of the denial of something

00:39:17.440 like this will be in the Church of England.

00:39:19.860 Well, it's a great shame because people will start, well, women will start to say, well, 0.99

00:39:23.980 if you don't recognize what I am, why would I bother coming to listen to you? But in the Church

00:39:27.800 of England, they have ordained women. I know it's something that I disagree with, but a lot of people

00:39:32.380 do agree with it. Now, if women within the Church of England have fought for years to get recognized 0.99

00:39:37.880 so they can become ordained ministers, and now the Church is saying we don't understand what a

00:39:43.080 definition of a woman is, haven't they just reversed that feminist battle that actually won 1.00

00:39:47.980 in that establishment? None of it seems to match up with logic or science, never mind faith.

00:39:53.280 I mean, if they don't believe in the Bible, at least they should believe in the scientific truth

00:39:57.440 that a woman is born with XY chromosomes, sorry, XX chromosomes, and that is innate. It's something 0.99

00:40:06.200 you can't change. You can't change your DNA. Even if you want to wear a dress or trousers and call

00:40:12.140 yourself male or female, you know, you cannot change the way God designed you.

00:40:15.960 Yep. Yep, absolutely. Well, I appreciate your perspective on this and your clarity and your

00:40:21.140 courage. And I'm so glad that the UK has you in your consistent voice. Where can people find you?

00:40:27.040 I'm on Twitter, Getter, Instagram, all the usual social media platforms as

00:40:32.440 at Calvin Robinson. But if people are interested in my ministry, I'm on evangelicalcatholics.co.uk.

00:40:41.300 Evangelicalcatholics.co.uk. Got it. Thank you so much, Calvin. I really appreciate you taking

00:40:45.720 the time to come on. Thank you, Ali. God bless you. You too.

00:40:57.040 All right. I wanted to end this episode with a bigger and a better and a biblical perspective

00:41:07.000 because it does feel like chaos. Things feel extremely unstable. And I mean, that's a logical

00:41:15.560 feeling. It's a logical feeling to feel overwhelmed because we look outside of our window and it seems

00:41:21.160 like everything is in disarray. Everything is disordered. But the good news is that we serve

00:41:26.440 a God of order. We do not serve a God of confusion. We do not serve a God of anarchy. We serve a God who

00:41:32.660 is totally and completely sovereign. Nothing throws him off. Nothing takes him aback. Nothing surprises

00:41:38.360 him. There's nothing that he looks at and says, I didn't see that coming. Or how am I going to fix

00:41:43.420 this? He is not a God who comes in after the fact and cleans up the mess. But he is a God who is

00:41:47.880 totally sovereign over all of it. That doesn't mean that he approves of everything that happens.

00:41:52.820 Sin and injustice, of course, anger him. But he's not doing nothing about these things. He is not just

00:41:59.060 sitting on his hands waiting to see what the outcome is going to be. We know the end of the story. We've

00:42:05.520 read the last chapter of the book. We realize that God is going to claim ultimate victory. We were

00:42:12.640 singing, Is He Worthy? Yesterday in church. And that line almost brought me to tears.

00:42:18.500 Will we dwell again? Or is God going to dwell again with us? He is. God is going to dwell again

00:42:24.920 with us. We are going to have perfect peace one day. His anger is kindling. His wrath is being stored

00:42:31.100 up that he will pour out on all evildoers and all injustice and wrong and sin is going to be taken

00:42:37.460 care of as well as all sorrow. So let me read you some scripture that I go to when I'm like,

00:42:43.900 what the heck is happening? I'm scared for the future. I'm scared for the future of my children.

00:42:49.000 How can things get any worse? Surely Jesus is coming back soon, which maybe he is. I don't know.

00:42:54.340 We don't know. No one really knows for sure. And so the most that we can do is hope and trust and also

00:43:01.280 obey. We can't waste our time in anxiety that is the exact opposite of what the Lord calls us to

00:43:08.080 and exactly what Satan would like us to do. But we are to trust that all the hairs on our head are

00:43:14.420 numbered and not one of them can fall apart from the will of the Father and that he's got us. So

00:43:19.400 let me read you some passages. And these are just a sampling. I could read you a ton of scriptures that

00:43:27.480 I go to. And if you've been listening to this podcast for any amount of time, you can probably

00:43:31.640 list them because I repeat the same ones over and over. But here's a passage from Psalm 2.

00:43:37.280 Why do the nations rage and the people's plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves and

00:43:42.680 the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against his anointed saying, let us burst their

00:43:47.900 bonds apart and cast away their cords from us. He who sits in the heavens laughs. The Lord holds them in

00:43:53.380 derision. Then he will speak to them in his wrath and terrify them in his fury saying, as for me,

00:43:58.640 I have set my king on Zion, my holy hill. God is completely in control of what's happening.

00:44:06.020 This is one of my favorite verses that you've probably heard me say a lot. And that is Jeremiah

00:44:12.860 32, 17.

00:44:16.180 All Lord God, it is you who have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and by your outstretched

00:44:22.620 arm. Nothing is too hard for you. Then verse 18, you show steadfast love to thousands, but you repay

00:44:29.780 the guilt of fathers to their children after them. O great and mighty God, whose name is the Lord of

00:44:35.180 hosts, great in counsel and mighty indeed, whose eyes are open to all the ways of the children of man,

00:44:41.260 rewarding each one according to his ways and according to the fruit of his deeds. And I could go on in that

00:44:48.020 passage just looking at the power and the justice of God. And then we can look at Psalm 37, which you

00:44:55.520 definitely have heard me repeat over and over again. And I kind of just pop around to the different

00:45:00.200 verses in this chapter so I don't have to read the whole thing, but it is truly peace-giving to me.

00:45:05.680 Psalm 37,

00:45:06.360 Fret not yourself because of evildoers. Be not envious because of wrongdoers, for they will soon

00:45:11.440 fade like the grass and wither like the green herb. Trust in the Lord and do good. Dwell in the land to

00:45:16.940 befriend faithfulness. Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart.

00:45:22.360 We've done a most misused on that verse to talk about the context of what that actually means.

00:45:27.280 Commit your way to the Lord. Trust in him and he will act. He will bring forth your righteousness as

00:45:31.740 delight in your justice as the noon day. The wicked plots against the righteous and gnashes his teeth

00:45:36.820 at him. But the Lord laughs at the wicked for he sees that his day is coming. Turn away from evil

00:45:42.820 and do good. So shall you dwell forever for the Lord loves justice. He will not forsake his saints.

00:45:49.720 And then finally, we have Philippians. Gosh, again, I could read this entire chapter. Let's start with

00:45:58.460 verse 5 of chapter 2. Philippians 2 verse 5.

00:46:03.540 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of

00:46:08.720 God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself by taking the form

00:46:14.660 of a servant, being born in the likeness of men and being found in human form. He humbled himself by

00:46:20.220 becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore, God has highly exalted him

00:46:25.980 and bestowed on him the name that is above every name. So that at the name of Jesus, every knee

00:46:31.320 should bow in heaven and on earth and under earth and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord

00:46:37.140 to the glory of God the Father. The day is coming. That is for sure. There's a lot of instability.

00:46:43.100 There's a lot that we don't know, but that is for sure. Every knee will bow. Every tongue will confess

00:46:49.420 that Jesus Christ is Lord. So let us not waste our time in worry and wondering what is going to happen.

00:46:56.340 That ultimately is what is going to happen. And that eternal plan of redemption is going off

00:47:01.480 without a hitch. It always is. God's work doesn't always make headlines. And yet he is working

00:47:07.880 tirelessly as is in his nature and relentlessly for the good of those who love him and for his own glory.

00:47:14.580 Let us play our small part in that. All right. That's all I have time for today. Tomorrow,

00:47:20.560 I think unless something happens, we have to talk about the news. I'm going to respond to Emmanuel

00:47:25.100 Akko's so-called uncomfortable conversations about abortion. It's not an uncomfortable conversation if

00:47:33.040 you're only talking to people who agree with each other and agree with you. I have problems with it,

00:47:38.500 as you can imagine. So we'll be back here with that probably tomorrow. See you guys then.

00:47:44.580 Bye.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - July 11, 2022

Ep 640 ｜ Making Sense of Chaos in the UK, the Netherlands & Sri Lanka ｜ Guest： Calvin Robinson

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