Ep 640 ｜ Making Sense of Chaos in the UK, the Netherlands & Sri Lanka ｜ Guest： Calvin Robinson
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In this episode of Relatable, we take a look at what's going on outside of the United States, and why it matters. We talk to Calvin Robinson about the Boris Johnson resignation in the United Kingdom, the Dutch farmers' protest, and the Church of England.
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. This episode is brought to you by our friends
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Okay, today we are going to take a look at what is going on outside the United States.
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Most of our focus is what is going on in our home, but we need to look at also the happenings
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abroad because there's some big stuff going on that will have implications for us here in the
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U.S. We are going to look at the Boris Johnson resignation in the U.K. We will be talking to
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one of my favorite guests, and that is Calvin Robinson. If you haven't listened to my previous
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interview with him, please go back and listen to that. We can link it in the description of this
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episode. But he's going to tell us what it means that the Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, has said
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that he is stepping down, what that means for the U.K., what the process is going to be of replacing
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him, who are the possible replacements, why is he stepping down, but also what are the real reasons
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behind why he's stepping down. We are also going to look at the Church of England. The Church of
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England recently said that they cannot answer the question of what a woman is. Very sad. Calvin
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Robinson is a very clear thinker and speaker, and so he is going to break down what all of this means
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for us and why it matters. But before we get into the conversation with Calvin Robinson, I do want to
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talk to you about two other big things that are going on in the world, and that is what is going on in
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the Netherlands with the Dutch farmers' protests, and also what is going on in Sri Lanka. You've
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probably seen that there is a literal insurrection going on in Sri Lanka. The people there are taking
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over the palace of the Sri Lankan leaders. I mean, it's wild. So we're going to get into all of that.
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I'm just kind of going to give you a brief explanation, though, of what's going on. We will take a deeper
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look into these happenings in a future episode. We'll probably have some people who are experts
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in these fields come on and really tell us what is going on on the ground there. But I just kind of
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want to give us an idea of everything that is happening. Then after the conversation with Calvin
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Robinson, we will also have a little outro where I'll give us a bigger picture perspective. So first,
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let me talk about this Dutch farmers' protest. And if you're watching on YouTube, we can put some
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images and maybe some silent footage up so you can really see what's going on. But you've probably
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seen on Twitter that these videos of what look like hundreds, if not thousands, of tractors and
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trucks that are on the road and they're protesting. So why is this happening? This is according to
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France 24. 40,000 farmers gathered last week in the central Netherlands agricultural heartland
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to protest the government's plan to cut emissions of, quote, damaging pollutants,
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which will probably force farmers to cut their livestock herds or stop working altogether.
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The government is proposing measures to cut nitrogen oxide and ammonia, both of which are produced by
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livestock by 50 percent nationwide by 2030. The government statement,
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the honest message is that not all of the farmers can continue their business. So the government is
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actually admitting this, that for these climate change purposes or what they say,
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what they're doing is for the purpose of stopping or inhibiting climate change. There are going to be
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farmers that can no longer work, that can no longer provide for their families. And you know that all of
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our food comes from farms. And even if you are a vegan, the vegetables that you are eating were
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probably fertilized with the manure from livestock. And so you can see the massive implications that
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this will have, not just for the farmers, but on Netherlands as a whole and all of the countries who
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are trying to pursue these same goals. A lot of these things are happening here in the United States
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as well, not just the implications that it will have on the population as a whole. The government
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has formerly forced farmers to use feed for animals that contain less protein in order to reduce ammonia
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emissions. You can also just think for a second about the implications of that, how difficult that
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would be for the farmers to try to raise cattle and livestock that are going to provide nutrition
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for the people that they are selling to. Dutch farmers gathered by tractor in the central
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Netherlands agricultural heartland, slowing traffic. Farmers drove on crowded highways in
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their slow tractors or stopped altogether. Some dumped hay bales on roads. Some gathered at the town and
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city halls and some started bonfires outside buildings. So this is very similar to what happened in
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Canada with the trucker protest. They were protesting the vaccine mandates and also protesting the lockdowns
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that, again, stole the livelihoods of many people. And one commonality in these leaders, whether it's
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Justin Trudeau of Canada or whether it's these Dutch leaders, is the World Economic Forum. You will also hear
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Calvin and I talk about the World Economic Forum. And you probably know the significance of 2030.
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If you've listened to my conversations with Justin Haskins about this great global reset that sounds
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like a conspiracy but is very much not and is being manufactured and engineered by the people at the
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World Economic Forum, all of this has to do with that. The lockdowns had to do with that. These climate
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change policies, these green policies have to do with that. We are already starting to see the detrimental
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effect of that and how these governments are going to have to use force to get people to comply. People
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are not going to give up their livelihoods easily. People are not going to give up their ability, their
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right to eat meat easily. So this is going to be an utter catastrophe. And the elites who are trying to push
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this at the World Economic Forum are not going to let go of their plans easily. And unfortunately,
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we are even seeing that in this Dutch protest. So let me play you a clip of the police trying to stop
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these protests by force. So these farmers are completely peaceful. As far as we know, as far as
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we've seen, as far as being reported, they're not armed. They're not causing some kind of violent
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insurrection. They are using peaceful means to try to sound the alarm about what is going on. And yet,
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the police are shooting at them so that they will disperse. I mean, that's very frightening. And I
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guarantee you, the Dutch leaders say that they are doing so to protect democracy in the same way that
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Justin Trudeau said that he was going to shut down the bank accounts of the peaceful trucking protesters
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to try to protect democracy. What do I always say? That when progressives say democracy, they mean
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authoritarianism that they like. When they say authoritarian or fascist, they actually mean
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democracy that they don't like. Basically, what this is, and many people have said this, this is
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a managed decline. Now, the people in charge, as I think Justin Haskins would agree, think that they
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are helping the world. They think that climate change is the biggest threat that we are facing,
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that it's an existential threat. And even though most of the population really doesn't care all that much
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about it, like you might hear leaders like AOC say that they care about climate change, that we need
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to fight climate change. But really, that's not what people are voting on. People care about their
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pocketbooks. People care about being able to provide for their families and protect their families.
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First and foremost, that's what they are going to the voting booth for. They may say that they care
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about things like climate change, but that's really low on the priority list. But the elites at the World
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Economic Forum, and I'm talking about people in governments, I'm talking about our government,
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I'm talking about the governments in Canada, I'm talking about most European leaders. Again,
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this is not some like group of people who we have conjured up as conspiracy theorists. These
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are people connected to the World Economic Forum that are meeting regularly to talk about their climate
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change goals and the policies that they have to put in place to meet those goals. And that is where
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that is where this reduction of emissions is coming from in place like in places like the Netherlands.
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That is why this is happening. And they think that they know better than us. They think that they know
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better than the general population, that the reason that we don't prioritize it is because we're just not
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smart enough or knowledgeable enough, or we don't see far enough into the future. And that if they just
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take control, while there will be some pain and what they would call, you know, growing pains or transition
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pains now, ultimately will end up being better. That is also part of why our gas prices are so high. Now, I'm not
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saying that Joe Biden is artificially pumping up the gas prices, like I don't think he is calling these oil
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companies and saying, hey, will you raise the prices of gas, but his green energy policies and the green energy
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policies that have been put in place for a long time are contributing to the high gas prices. It is not
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primarily Russia, as we have talked about many times. You can listen to the conversation that I had
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with my dad where we talked about this. Definitely listen to the conversation that I had with Jackie
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Daly about this, who is an energy expert. The green policies that he is putting in place, his refusal
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to allow new leases for these oil and gas companies, that is contributing to the high gas prices. And we have
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heard his energy secretary say that we are going through a transition period away from oil and gas. This all has
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to do with this elitist belief that climate change is our biggest threat, and that all of the means justify the
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ends, even if it comes to mass starvation, which if they keep going in this direction, like they are in the
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Netherlands, like we will see that. And let me just briefly try to wrap this up on this story. So we can get to the
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Sri Lanka story. This is according to CNS News. In response to the government's newly announced
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national program to reduce pollutant emissions, Dutch farmers from across the Netherlands drove
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their tractors in protest of these agricultural limitations. The Dutch Minister for Nitrogen and
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Nature Policy, Ms. Christiane van der Waal, laid forth the country's plan to reduce its nitrogen
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emissions and said that they're going to reduce nitrogen emissions between 12 and 70 percent,
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depending on the area. Studies conducted by the National Library of Medicine have found
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the urine and feces of livestock to be major sources of ammonia and nitrous oxide emissions.
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Since the announcement, protests have broken out across the Netherlands with around 40,000
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farmers gathering. They've resorted to dumping hay bales or parking tractors in the roads
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and the roads as a means of blocking traffic. And then there's a dairy farmer who's quoted saying
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this. I was asked to come here and provide breakfast so we can show we are food producers,
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not pollution producers. And they have shirts that say no farmers, no food, freedom of speech
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and the right to demonstrate are a vital part of our democratic society. And I will always defend them.
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But it is not acceptable to create dangerous situations. It is not acceptable to intimidate
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officials. We will never accept that, said Prime Minister Root, and a condemnation of the
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demonstrations. They're always condemning the demonstrations that humiliate them. And that is,
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of course, what is going on here. And so we'll see how this goes. I commend the Dutch farmers for
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standing up. Good for them. They show a lot of courage. They show a lot of persistence. May normal,
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average working people in the world continue to speak up, continue to push back, continue to stand up.
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Isn't this like workers of the world uniting? And oh, wait, the socialists who are in charge don't
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like it. Isn't that interesting? Climate change policy has always been a war against the working
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class. Remember that. All right, let me tell you a little bit about what's going on in Sri Lanka.
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So protesters have gathered to protest the economic crisis in Sri Lanka. The country is suffering from
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a severe foreign exchange shortage, which has limited essential imports of fuel, food and medicine.
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They are almost totally out of oil, of fuel. So that's a problem, obviously. Sri Lanka's inflation
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hit 54.6% in June. And quite honestly, America is well on its way. They are seeking a $3 billion
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bailout from the International Monetary Fund. Protests have been taking place since March.
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Saturday's protests, which we'll show you the footage of in just a second, is believed to be
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the largest. Protesters stormed the prime minister's residence and set it on fire. Earlier, they had
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broken into the president's residence to sit on beds and swim in the pool. Here's a little bit of that.
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The prime minister and the president, I'm not even going to try to pronounce their last names. You
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can look it up. They've resigned to allow an all party interim government to take over. Both leaders
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have been in hiding and announced their resignations from there. Protesters have helped pick up trash from
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the mansion, sweat the floors, water the plants. So I think they're trying to say, look, we're not trying
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to be destructive and deadly. We're just trying to make a point that our government, for lack of a
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better term, is basically screwing us right now. And this is a theme that we have seen throughout
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the world, especially over the past few years. We have seen what you might call a populist pushback,
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a pushback of the people against their leaders who do not have their best interests at heart.
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What you are going to see, if these protests are at all effective, is a pendulum swing towards
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nationalism. And I know people get super scared about that term nationalism because they've been
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indoctrinated to believe that it's the same thing as fascism and that somehow this has to do with like
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some Hitlerian takeover. It doesn't have to do with that. Nationalism is putting the interests of
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your people first, putting the interests, the sovereignty, the protection, the provision of
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your country, of your citizens, of your borders first. That is the exact opposite of what is
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happening here in the United States, the exact opposite of what is happening in many countries
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in which the leaders are selling out their people for the interests of the economic global elite
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at the World Economic Forum and also for their own selfish interests. The UN is behind this,
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the WHO is behind this. All of this serves in the interests of what is soon to be the greatest
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global superpower, and that is China. And frankly, if we continue going in that globalist direction,
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things look really scary for the populace. Things look really scary for the masses because if they're,
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at least the pretense of their goal is, you know, fighting climate change, then we know that one of the
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sub-goals, one of the goals that helps them achieve that ultimate goal is reducing the population. I
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mean, Bill Gates has literally been talking about this for decades. The problem of overpopulation,
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it's not just him. It's all of these. I hate to use the term elites because I know there's like a
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conspiratorial association with that word, but I don't know what else to call them. I'm talking about
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global leaders and politicians and billionaires and moguls who all have the same kind of agenda
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at heart. And one part of that agenda is depopulation, this Malthusian myth of overpopulation,
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which we have debunked several times in which Elon Musk, with all of his faults and failures,
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has also talked about that. It is actually a myth that we are overpopulated as a world and that
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actually we have a much greater danger that we're facing of population decline rather than
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overpopulation. By the way, just an aside, the Elon Musk Twitter deal, it seems to have fallen
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through, but they're going to court over it. Twitter's now trying to force the deal. So we're
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going to see how that goes. We don't have time to talk about all of that today. But what we're seeing
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is at least the effort of the people to push the pendulum in the other direction. You are going to see
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people wanting nationalism, wanting closed borders, wanting immigration moratoriums,
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wanting strong leaders who say enough, enough with trying to serve the interests of the global
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elites. We are going to care about the working classes in this country. We are going to care
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about the citizens of this country. As I said, that's the exact opposite of what is happening right
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now under Joe Biden. I'm not convinced that Joe Biden is calling the shots himself,
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but he is a weak and willing vessel. And so that's why he is allowing the borders to be wide open.
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That is why he is allowing the chaos that is raining in the streets of the United States. That's why
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he is shipping the barrels of oil that were in our strategic reserves that were released
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for our benefit, or we were told that they were released for our benefit so that the price of gas
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would go down, they are being sold to China, or many barrels of oil are being sold to China. Not all
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of them. It is why he is constantly putting the interests of other countries and the citizens of
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other countries before our own. It is an anti-nationalism movement that we are seeing in
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our government and in many governments. And I think the people have had enough. And so we're going to see
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the consequence of that. You can expect that the people in power who have been investing in this
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globalist movement for decades are going to be pushing back hard. As I said, we are seeing that
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in the Netherlands. We're probably going to see that in Sri Lanka. We certainly saw that in Canada.
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They're not going to let this go easily. I think that we have a scary and rough road ahead. I don't know
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what that's going to look like. But hey, God bless these protesters, peaceful protesters. God bless
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them for standing up and for being strong, knowing that they are going to get pushed back from their
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government. I mean, those Dutch farmers were literally shot at by the police. So thank God for
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their courage. I hope that that courage catches fire, that it continues to be contagious, and that
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people continue to stand up, and that we have a little bit of a backbone in the United States
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to peacefully protest and stand up against what we're seeing here, the powers that be that are
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selling out their own people for their own interests.
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Calvin, thank you so much for joining us again. Before we get started in breaking down everything
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that's happening over there, can you tell us why you're running a few minutes late?
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I think I got here just on the door. I heard the computer call as I walked through the door.
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But yeah, I got lost in Winston Churchill's bunker. So I was down in the war rooms, and it's like a
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labyrinth down there. Honestly, everywhere you turn, there's a hidden place with desks or beds.
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And it's obviously where he lived and worked throughout World War II. So it's a nice place to get lost.
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But I was like, I'm not going to make it out. I'm going to be late for Ali.
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Oh, my goodness. That's a very British reason for running late. But as you said, you were right.
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You were right on time. But I'm glad that you were able to tell us that story.
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I was down there, Ali, because I was listening to a couple of the parliamentary candidates
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talking about why they make the best prime minister. So I heard speeches from Suella Braverman
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Oh, so it wasn't just that you were exploring down there just for fun.
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There are political professional reasons for it. I got it. All right. Well, tell us then,
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what is going on? I mean, why? You just said that why you were down there in the bunker. But tell us
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why that's going on. Why were you listening to these candidates? What the heck is happening?
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Right. I mean, where to begin? Boris Johnson has been ousted or has he? He's still the prime
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minister. He's still living in number 10 Downing Street. He says he'll be the caretaker prime
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minister until a new one is selected around September, which I think could actually give
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him some time to try and win people over. I don't know. I'm not convinced he actually wants to leave.
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I think he wants to be dragged out kicking and screaming. But he's been, you know, the coup took
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place because, well, they say because of moral reasons. So there's been a few scandals lately.
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One of them was that Boris Johnson was caught eating birthday cake during lockdown. Now,
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the media spun that as a birthday party in his honour. However, it seems after the investigation
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that really, truly, there was a meeting and then five minutes after someone presented him a cake,
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he ate a slice of it and left after another five minutes. It wasn't the kind of party that I'm
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used to going to anyway. But the media have been on his case since, well, before then,
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but they've used that as a stick to beat him with. So there's been a sustained campaign against the
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prime minister from the mainstream media, who were obviously lefty liberals and do not like him.
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But then the most recent scandal was this parliamentarian that pinched, his name is Chris
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Pinscher, and he pinched two other people's bottoms. I don't know if you use that colloquialism in
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America. But he pinched their derrieres in a gentleman's club, and the prime minister didn't
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deal with it appropriately. So they've used this as another stick to beat him with. But what's
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happened is a lot of parliamentarians around Boris Johnson have said, oh, you know, he either,
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you know, he lied, he covered it up, he's, you know, his moral standards are slipping.
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But Boris Johnson never really had any moral standards. You know, I'm sorry to say that,
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but we elected him for a few big reasons. One of them was to get Brexit done. But we knew when we
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elected Boris Johnson as our prime minister that he had, you know, he's on his third marriage now,
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we knew that, well, we didn't know, we still don't know how many children he has. Imagine that,
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a prime minister of your country, you don't actually know how many children he has. But
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the point is, we knew he wasn't the most moral chap, but we knew he was a strong leader.
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And actually, Boris Johnson helped oust the previous prime minister, Theresa May,
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probably the most moral leader we've had in this country. You know, she's a vicar's daughter.
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She's never done anything wrong, as far as anyone can find. But she didn't have the strength
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to get Brexit done. And that was what was important to us at the time.
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So very similar to why many Americans voted for Donald Trump. It wasn't because he was a moral
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exemplar, but because he exemplified the strength that a lot of people thought was necessary to turn
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the country in the right direction. What's strange is that he is resigning over what seems like
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relatively small infractions, at least relative to other scandals that we see political leaders
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embroiled in other scandals in his own life, as you just mentioned. And certainly, it's different than
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here in the United States. I mean, there are politicians who have been found guilty of much,
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much worse than what people are saying Boris Johnson is guilty of. And they have been, you know,
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they have been able to carry on with impunity. So what do you think is really going on here?
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Is it really that the British people are this fed up or that they are this disappointed in him morally?
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Well, that's a good question. So it's not the British people. The British people haven't had a say
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Yeah. So it's the party. So the politicians, they follow a herd mentality. So a number of key
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high-profile politicians resigned, and then more resigned, and then more resigned. They just go
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along with the flow, which is quite sad to see from our, you know, political leaders. But the country,
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a lot of people in the country still support Boris Johnson. I get emails and tweets all the time
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saying, you know, what they've done is treacherous. So it's interesting the divide between our
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parliamentarians and the British public. I'm hoping that it's not this, but I think it is partly due
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to a sustained campaign by the mainstream media, partly due to the Remain camp in Parliament that
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did not want to see Brexit done and will do whatever they can do to rejoin the European Union.
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And of course, there are people that would want Boris Johnson's job, and not to mention Boris Johnson's
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former chief advisor, Dominic Cummings, who was a political genius, but got booted out
00:25:38.800
due to conflicts with Boris Johnson's wife. So he's held a vendetta against Boris Johnson ever
00:25:44.720
since, quite publicly. You know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist here. He's had a grudge
00:25:49.300
to bear, let's say. So there are many, many elements working against Boris Johnson. And I'm
00:25:53.040
not supportive or against him at the moment. I'm just trying to report the situation. But it does
00:25:57.340
mean that we're going to have to select a new parliamentarian to run for the leader of the
00:26:02.040
Conservative Party, which will indeed become the prime minister, because the Conservatives still have
00:26:06.660
a big majority. Are Conservatives frustrated that Boris Johnson kind of went along with what a lot
00:26:14.800
of liberals or leftists wanted countries to do when it comes to restrictions and locking people down?
00:26:20.860
I mean, you mentioned that people wanted him in power because he was strong, because he kind of
00:26:26.160
bucked the system. Then when it came to COVID, he kind of just went along with what a lot of liberal
00:26:31.180
leaders here in the United States wanted as well. Is that part of this at all?
00:26:36.000
Yes, that is absolutely the key. So if there was a reason to get rid of Boris Johnson, it would be for,
00:26:41.040
you know, taking away our civil liberties, for not doing what the core job of government is to do,
00:26:45.940
protect its citizens. And he should have stood up for our rights rather than going along with
00:26:50.960
the Chinese Communist Party's ideology of locking down subjects. I don't think it's appropriate.
00:26:56.700
You know, it hadn't been done in the Western world until Italy copied China and then we copied Italy
00:27:01.260
and then it just snowballed from there and everyone was doing it. But it's not, you know,
00:27:04.760
we had a rule book on how to approach pandemics. We threw it out the window and panicked. And I think
00:27:10.820
Boris Johnson's libertarian values told him at the start, his gut would have told him this was wrong.
00:27:15.980
And in fact, we've heard this from insiders that at first he didn't want to do lockdowns. He wanted to,
00:27:20.740
you know, let the virus rip, so to speak, and let people build a natural immunity. And I think,
00:27:25.380
actually, we probably would have been better off if he'd have done that. But he was scared of the
00:27:28.680
political implications and went along with a lot of the people around him at the time who were
00:27:33.020
advising him, no, you need to lock down. That is the greatest shame. If there was a reason to get
00:27:36.900
rid of him, it was for that. And also the vaccine mandates, the idea that a government can tell you
00:27:41.880
what to do with your body. You know, a liberal government of all governments that should be
00:27:45.680
protecting people's bodily autonomy suddenly says, no, you have to have this vaccine, otherwise you lose
00:27:50.820
your job. That is terrible. So for those two reasons, I would have admired people trying to
00:27:55.620
oust him. But over the reasons they've chosen, it's disgusting. It's all a complete mess, really.
00:28:01.580
Yeah, well, we're used to the upside downness of politics here in the United States. So what is the
00:28:06.860
replacement process look like? What does it look like there between now and I think you said September?
00:28:14.340
Right. So it's a bit of a stitch up. The way our system works in the Conservative Party, and remember,
00:28:21.620
we're electing a Conservative Party leader. We're not necessarily electing a Prime Minister. That just
00:28:25.620
happens by default. But to elect a new party leader, the parliamentarians, so the Conservative MPs,
00:28:31.340
get to narrow down from all of the people that have put themselves forward. And then they present
00:28:35.960
a list of candidates to the membership. So people who are Conservative Party members,
00:28:40.320
and then they get to vote on who their leader should be. That is great. That's democratic. However,
00:28:44.940
the stitch up here is that the parliamentarians want to whittle it down to two candidates.
00:28:49.620
I don't think that's enough. I think the membership should get a vote on every single
00:28:52.820
parliamentarian that's put their name forward to become leader. Because what we're going to see is
00:28:56.280
the WAF, you know, the elite are going to have their preferred candidate, and they're going to put them
00:29:01.520
up against someone who is not of the same calibre. And we're going to end up with another
00:29:07.280
globalist elite as our Prime Minister. And I don't think that's what people want. I think
00:29:11.820
if we could vote amongst ourselves, vote amongst the members, there are quite a, there's a couple
00:29:16.220
of good actually Conservatives, actual Conservatives, who have put their names forward.
00:29:20.980
And would you say that Boris Johnson is considered a WEF, World Economic Forum
00:29:30.520
I don't think so. Some people do. I don't think so. I think the people around him are,
00:29:34.000
a lot of them are. Rishi Sunak, he is the favourite to win at the moment. He's,
00:29:38.820
you know, he's got his profile up on the WEF website, and he's very much of that calibre.
00:29:44.780
There are a number of them there. Nadeem Zahawi, Sajid Javid, these are both people that wanted to
00:29:50.880
push for more lockdown. Sajid wanted a Christmas lockdown over Omicron. You know, it's a bad cold,
00:29:55.260
for goodness sake. And Nadeem Zahawi was pushing vaccines on children, even though he was the
00:30:00.300
education minister, all of these people around Boris, his cabinet, his senior ministers, our WEF.
00:30:05.580
I think one of the reasons that Boris Johnson has been ousted is because he wasn't towing the line.
00:30:11.920
Boris realised that he could no longer push for further lockdowns because the people were
00:30:16.100
against him. And Boris is someone that cares most about what other people think of him. He's a bit
00:30:21.060
of a populist in that sense. So he stopped towing the line. And I think that's the start of the
00:30:37.200
And do you think that Kimi Badenoch, she's a possible replacement? Do you think that she
00:30:43.920
Yes, I think that as far as I'm concerned, there are very few names that actually stand out as true
00:30:49.700
conservatives. And Kimi Badenoch is one of them. You know, she fought against number 10 down the street.
00:30:55.040
She fought against the government on the issue around Black Lives Matter. When everyone else was
00:30:59.140
either very cautious and saying nothing or openly supporting Black Lives Matter, Kimi came out and
00:31:04.940
said, no, they're adopting the divisive language of critical race theory. It's counterintuitive.
00:31:10.120
It's harmful for our social cohesion. It's not something we should be addressing. Let's look
00:31:14.760
deeper at the evidence. And she put together an independent report, the Sewell report or the
00:31:19.780
Pred reports that looked into racial disparities in our country, didn't find any evidence of
00:31:24.580
institutional racism, but found many racial disparities and looked deeper and found that
00:31:29.120
actually, whenever there was a racial disparity, it wasn't always down to racism. It was quite often
00:31:33.980
down to many other socioeconomic factors, including wealth, geography, class, class played a big impact.
00:31:40.560
But that's what I like. Someone who's willing to go against the grain, look at the facts,
00:31:45.340
be evidence informed and not afraid to speak the truth. And that is the principle. But Kimi's
00:31:50.600
running on a platform of truth. And for so long, our politicians have been saying what they think
00:31:55.580
they want us to hear, what they think the focus groups say we want to hear. But she will just say
00:32:00.380
what she knows to be the truth. And I admire that.
00:32:02.400
She gave a speech a couple years ago against BLM. And so we'll play a little bit of that right now.
00:32:09.660
What we are against is the teaching of contested political ideas as if they are accepted facts.
00:32:16.780
We don't do this with communism. We don't do this with socialism. We don't do it with capitalism.
00:32:21.240
And I want to speak about a dangerous trend in race relations that has come far too close to
00:32:27.000
home to my life. And it is the promotion of critical race theory, an ideology that sees
00:32:31.940
my blackness as victimhood and their whiteness as oppression. I want to be absolutely clear,
00:32:36.980
this government stands unequivocally against critical race theory. Some schools have decided
00:32:42.600
to openly support the anti-capitalist Black Lives Matter group, often fully aware that they have
00:32:49.940
I really appreciate her no-nonsense approach to and doing exactly what you just said, which is
00:32:55.880
looking underneath the headline of these disparities exist and actually asking the question,
00:33:01.720
why do these disparities exist? You're probably aware of Thomas Sowell. He wrote a book called
00:33:06.820
Discrimination and Disparities, where basically he makes that argument that disparities are not in
00:33:12.120
themselves evidence of discrimination. And when you refuse to look at the reasons for disparities
00:33:17.880
beyond potential discrimination, you actually do a disservice to the people who are suffering from
00:33:23.580
the disparities because you're not willing to look at the actual cause. So I think certainly
00:33:28.280
that you all would benefit from that kind of leadership. Now, is it possible that, because I
00:33:34.420
really don't know very much about this process, is it possible that the new prime minister is not
00:33:41.860
No, no, it has to be a Conservative from the Conservative Party. But you're right to mention Thomas Sowell. I think
00:33:46.800
he is fantastic. I've hoped to meet him one day. I understand he lives a reclusive life at the
00:33:52.400
moment. But so Kemi Badenoch quoted Thomas Sowell in her campaign launch, as well as quoting St. John
00:33:58.980
from the Gospel of John. So I thought that was, you know, those two points stood out for me in
00:34:02.860
particular. I don't think Kemi is a practicing Christian, but I don't think any of the leadership
00:34:06.720
candidates are. That is a great shame that we might end up with a prime minister for the first time
00:34:11.320
in decades that isn't a Christian. That would be a great shame. But at least we can take one that
00:34:16.660
takes Christian values and sees them as the same as conservative values and runs with them.
00:34:22.860
So why does the prime minister have to be from the Conservative Party?
00:34:27.140
Just because the Conservative Party have a majority as of the last general election. So it's the
00:34:32.540
Conservative leader that approaches Her Majesty the Queen and says, I have the number of MPs supporting me
00:34:40.020
in order to make a government. And then Her Majesty the Queen asks the leader of the Conservative Party
00:34:44.620
to make a government, to form a government. And because it's the Conservative Party leader that's
00:34:49.920
resigned, not necessarily the prime minister, we now elect a new leader of the party and the party
00:34:55.060
still holds an 80 seat majority. So therefore, by default, they'll go to meet the Queen and say,
00:35:00.560
and she'll request them to form a government. It's a little bit complicated. But after that,
00:35:05.340
it can seem a little undemocratic because British people haven't voted for this person. But we don't
00:35:12.200
really vote for a president in this country. We vote for our local representative. And the local
00:35:15.900
representatives belong to a party. And then we add up the numbers of the party and see which party has
00:35:20.220
the most local reps in Parliament. However, usually after a situation like this, the new party leader,
00:35:27.320
once they are asked to form a government by Her Majesty the Queen, they will hold a general election just to
00:35:33.800
get a mandate from the people just so it has the appearance of democracy so that people actually
00:35:38.040
can have a say. Even though, again, you're not voting for that leader, you're voting for your
00:35:42.000
local rep. But still, people want to feel like they have an impact.
00:35:46.020
All right, let's shift gears and talk quickly about the Church of England refusing to say what a woman
00:35:51.320
is. I know that you've commented on this. Bishop Dr. Robert Innes, I think that's how you pronounce
00:35:56.740
his last name, said this. There is no official definition, which reflects the fact that until fairly
00:36:02.320
recently, definitions of this kind were thought to be self-evident as reflected in the marriage
00:36:14.500
Well, I'll tell you what I think of that. Genesis 1.27, so God created man in his own image. In the
00:36:20.500
image of God created he him. Male and female created he them. Genesis 5.2, male and female created he them
00:36:27.860
and blessed them and called their name Adam in the day when they were created. Mark 10.6,
00:36:33.820
but from the beginning of creation God made them male and female. And Matthew 19.4, and he answered
00:36:41.280
and said unto them, have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female?
00:36:49.400
And that question there, have ye not read, is vitally important because I don't think the people
00:36:53.240
saying that they don't know what a woman is, I don't think they've read the Bible. They've probably read
00:36:56.280
Karl Marx, but not the Bible. It's ridiculous to suggest they don't know what a woman is.
00:37:00.400
Right. And a lot of progressives, at least here, like to say that Jesus had nothing to say about
00:37:05.680
sex. Jesus had nothing to say about gender. But of course, as you just read, Matthew 19.4-5 is the
00:37:12.040
verse that I, or verses that I typically cite when he's talking about divorce. Have you not read that
00:37:17.260
in the beginning God made them male and female? And so Jesus obviously had something to say about the
00:37:24.500
definition of sex, about the definition of marriage. And then of course, the whole of the Bible is God's
00:37:28.620
word. And if Jesus is God, then everything that God says, Jesus says to and agrees with.
00:37:33.900
That right there. Thank you, Annie. I got into a battle on Twitter last night with a Church of
00:37:38.120
England vicar who was saying, just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean it's true.
00:37:43.020
This is an ordained minister in the Church of England. And I'm quoting, not just quoting from
00:37:48.620
scripture, I'm quoting Jesus's words right here. I mean, if you don't believe the whole Bible is
00:37:52.940
God's word, at least this bit should be. It's bonkers to me that we've gone so far with these
00:37:58.280
progressives that they want to bend the faith so far to make it fit societal norms that they're
00:38:06.240
Yes. I often say that if you are going to deny the fundamental reality that we see in Genesis 1,
00:38:13.560
it's only a matter of time before someone denies a much more controversial truth, which is
00:38:19.380
John 14, 6, that Jesus is the way, the truth, the life, and that no one comes to the Father except
00:38:24.040
through him. That is the controversial message of the Bible, that we are all sinners in need of
00:38:32.020
a Savior, which is typically why those things go hand in hand. Like you deny Genesis 1, you end up
00:38:37.740
denying the authority of God in general. So why would someone even call themselves a Christian at that
00:38:42.520
It's funny. I preached on that verse of John on Sunday, just gone. But you're absolutely right.
00:38:48.260
It comes to my mind that these people who say that the Bible isn't entirely true, which bits
00:38:53.380
do they think is true? Is it the bits that they like? And how do you decide what's worth following
00:38:58.000
and what's not worth following? It sounds like idolatry to me. It sounds like they're putting their
00:39:01.720
ego before God. They're making gods out of themselves, aren't they really?
00:39:05.960
Yes, yes, absolutely. Exchanging the God of Scripture for the God of self. And we've seen
00:39:11.540
a lot of implications of that. Tell me what you think the consequences of the denial of something
00:39:19.860
Well, it's a great shame because people will start, well, women will start to say, well,
00:39:23.980
if you don't recognize what I am, why would I bother coming to listen to you? But in the Church
00:39:27.800
of England, they have ordained women. I know it's something that I disagree with, but a lot of people
00:39:32.380
do agree with it. Now, if women within the Church of England have fought for years to get recognized
00:39:37.880
so they can become ordained ministers, and now the Church is saying we don't understand what a
00:39:43.080
definition of a woman is, haven't they just reversed that feminist battle that actually won
00:39:47.980
in that establishment? None of it seems to match up with logic or science, never mind faith.
00:39:53.280
I mean, if they don't believe in the Bible, at least they should believe in the scientific truth
00:39:57.440
that a woman is born with XY chromosomes, sorry, XX chromosomes, and that is innate. It's something
00:40:06.200
you can't change. You can't change your DNA. Even if you want to wear a dress or trousers and call
00:40:12.140
yourself male or female, you know, you cannot change the way God designed you.
00:40:15.960
Yep. Yep, absolutely. Well, I appreciate your perspective on this and your clarity and your
00:40:21.140
courage. And I'm so glad that the UK has you in your consistent voice. Where can people find you?
00:40:27.040
I'm on Twitter, Getter, Instagram, all the usual social media platforms as
00:40:32.440
at Calvin Robinson. But if people are interested in my ministry, I'm on evangelicalcatholics.co.uk.
00:40:41.300
Evangelicalcatholics.co.uk. Got it. Thank you so much, Calvin. I really appreciate you taking
00:40:45.720
the time to come on. Thank you, Ali. God bless you. You too.
00:40:57.040
All right. I wanted to end this episode with a bigger and a better and a biblical perspective
00:41:07.000
because it does feel like chaos. Things feel extremely unstable. And I mean, that's a logical
00:41:15.560
feeling. It's a logical feeling to feel overwhelmed because we look outside of our window and it seems
00:41:21.160
like everything is in disarray. Everything is disordered. But the good news is that we serve
00:41:26.440
a God of order. We do not serve a God of confusion. We do not serve a God of anarchy. We serve a God who
00:41:32.660
is totally and completely sovereign. Nothing throws him off. Nothing takes him aback. Nothing surprises
00:41:38.360
him. There's nothing that he looks at and says, I didn't see that coming. Or how am I going to fix
00:41:43.420
this? He is not a God who comes in after the fact and cleans up the mess. But he is a God who is
00:41:47.880
totally sovereign over all of it. That doesn't mean that he approves of everything that happens.
00:41:52.820
Sin and injustice, of course, anger him. But he's not doing nothing about these things. He is not just
00:41:59.060
sitting on his hands waiting to see what the outcome is going to be. We know the end of the story. We've
00:42:05.520
read the last chapter of the book. We realize that God is going to claim ultimate victory. We were
00:42:12.640
singing, Is He Worthy? Yesterday in church. And that line almost brought me to tears.
00:42:18.500
Will we dwell again? Or is God going to dwell again with us? He is. God is going to dwell again
00:42:24.920
with us. We are going to have perfect peace one day. His anger is kindling. His wrath is being stored
00:42:31.100
up that he will pour out on all evildoers and all injustice and wrong and sin is going to be taken
00:42:37.460
care of as well as all sorrow. So let me read you some scripture that I go to when I'm like,
00:42:43.900
what the heck is happening? I'm scared for the future. I'm scared for the future of my children.
00:42:49.000
How can things get any worse? Surely Jesus is coming back soon, which maybe he is. I don't know.
00:42:54.340
We don't know. No one really knows for sure. And so the most that we can do is hope and trust and also
00:43:01.280
obey. We can't waste our time in anxiety that is the exact opposite of what the Lord calls us to
00:43:08.080
and exactly what Satan would like us to do. But we are to trust that all the hairs on our head are
00:43:14.420
numbered and not one of them can fall apart from the will of the Father and that he's got us. So
00:43:19.400
let me read you some passages. And these are just a sampling. I could read you a ton of scriptures that
00:43:27.480
I go to. And if you've been listening to this podcast for any amount of time, you can probably
00:43:31.640
list them because I repeat the same ones over and over. But here's a passage from Psalm 2.
00:43:37.280
Why do the nations rage and the people's plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves and
00:43:42.680
the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against his anointed saying, let us burst their
00:43:47.900
bonds apart and cast away their cords from us. He who sits in the heavens laughs. The Lord holds them in
00:43:53.380
derision. Then he will speak to them in his wrath and terrify them in his fury saying, as for me,
00:43:58.640
I have set my king on Zion, my holy hill. God is completely in control of what's happening.
00:44:06.020
This is one of my favorite verses that you've probably heard me say a lot. And that is Jeremiah
00:44:16.180
All Lord God, it is you who have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and by your outstretched
00:44:22.620
arm. Nothing is too hard for you. Then verse 18, you show steadfast love to thousands, but you repay
00:44:29.780
the guilt of fathers to their children after them. O great and mighty God, whose name is the Lord of
00:44:35.180
hosts, great in counsel and mighty indeed, whose eyes are open to all the ways of the children of man,
00:44:41.260
rewarding each one according to his ways and according to the fruit of his deeds. And I could go on in that
00:44:48.020
passage just looking at the power and the justice of God. And then we can look at Psalm 37, which you
00:44:55.520
definitely have heard me repeat over and over again. And I kind of just pop around to the different
00:45:00.200
verses in this chapter so I don't have to read the whole thing, but it is truly peace-giving to me.
00:45:06.360
Fret not yourself because of evildoers. Be not envious because of wrongdoers, for they will soon
00:45:11.440
fade like the grass and wither like the green herb. Trust in the Lord and do good. Dwell in the land to
00:45:16.940
befriend faithfulness. Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart.
00:45:22.360
We've done a most misused on that verse to talk about the context of what that actually means.
00:45:27.280
Commit your way to the Lord. Trust in him and he will act. He will bring forth your righteousness as
00:45:31.740
delight in your justice as the noon day. The wicked plots against the righteous and gnashes his teeth
00:45:36.820
at him. But the Lord laughs at the wicked for he sees that his day is coming. Turn away from evil
00:45:42.820
and do good. So shall you dwell forever for the Lord loves justice. He will not forsake his saints.
00:45:49.720
And then finally, we have Philippians. Gosh, again, I could read this entire chapter. Let's start with
00:46:03.540
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of
00:46:08.720
God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself by taking the form
00:46:14.660
of a servant, being born in the likeness of men and being found in human form. He humbled himself by
00:46:20.220
becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore, God has highly exalted him
00:46:25.980
and bestowed on him the name that is above every name. So that at the name of Jesus, every knee
00:46:31.320
should bow in heaven and on earth and under earth and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord
00:46:37.140
to the glory of God the Father. The day is coming. That is for sure. There's a lot of instability.
00:46:43.100
There's a lot that we don't know, but that is for sure. Every knee will bow. Every tongue will confess
00:46:49.420
that Jesus Christ is Lord. So let us not waste our time in worry and wondering what is going to happen.
00:46:56.340
That ultimately is what is going to happen. And that eternal plan of redemption is going off
00:47:01.480
without a hitch. It always is. God's work doesn't always make headlines. And yet he is working
00:47:07.880
tirelessly as is in his nature and relentlessly for the good of those who love him and for his own glory.
00:47:14.580
Let us play our small part in that. All right. That's all I have time for today. Tomorrow,
00:47:20.560
I think unless something happens, we have to talk about the news. I'm going to respond to Emmanuel
00:47:25.100
Akko's so-called uncomfortable conversations about abortion. It's not an uncomfortable conversation if
00:47:33.040
you're only talking to people who agree with each other and agree with you. I have problems with it,
00:47:38.500
as you can imagine. So we'll be back here with that probably tomorrow. See you guys then.