Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 654 ｜ What’s REALLY Going On with Taiwan & Pelosi？｜ Guest： Jason Buttrill

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Today we are talking to Jason Buttrell. He's

00:00:05.580 going to tell us what is really going on with Speaker Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan. Is she

00:00:12.880 just a patriot defending democracy? Or is there something else that we should be talking about?

00:00:19.220 We're also going to get a brief update on what is going on between Russia and Ukraine. He's going to

00:00:26.500 give us his analysis of the Biden administration's successful killing of an Al-Qaeda terrorist in

00:00:34.560 Afghanistan. And then we are also at the end going to talk about this George Soros op-ed in the Wall

00:00:42.480 Street Journal and what it means, why we should care. This episode is brought to you by our friends

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00:01:08.300 Okay, before we get into that conversation with Jason, which you're absolutely going to love, I

00:01:12.260 mean, he just breaks things down when it comes to foreign policy so well. I do want to give you an

00:01:18.320 update about a story that we talked about at the beginning of the week on Monday about Moms for

00:01:24.160 Liberty. I told you they had been suspended from Twitter temporarily for criticizing a California

00:01:30.000 bill that basically revoked the rights of parents whose kids want to travel to California for quote

00:01:36.440 unquote gender transition procedures and surgeries. And they also were kicked off PayPal. They don't really

00:01:46.360 know why PayPal didn't give an explanation, but basically punished them for the views that they

00:01:53.140 have. PayPal has done this to other organizations and individuals who speak out against gender ideology

00:02:01.680 who use PayPal as a way to take donations. And now Governor DeSantis of Florida is fighting back.

00:02:09.700 This is according to FloridaVoiceNews.com. PayPal unfreezes Moms for Liberty funds after DeSantis

00:02:18.100 announces crackdown on woke banking. So here's what the article says. Governor DeSantis announced last

00:02:24.540 week that Florida would begin cracking down on woke banking. Moms of Liberty said many of their donors

00:02:30.140 give automatically via PayPal. Obviously, they weren't able to do that when PayPal froze their abilities to

00:02:36.060 receive those donations. While Governor DeSantis was speaking at their Liberty National Summit on July

00:02:41.400 15th, they started getting emails that PayPal had stopped processing all of their monthly donors.

00:02:47.400 PayPal froze the organization's $4,500 and wouldn't let them transfer the money out until the IRS had

00:02:53.740 approved the organization's paperwork. I mean, this is really an example of at the very least soft

00:03:00.740 fascism. A way to think of fascism is the wedding of corporate and state power to punish dissent.

00:03:07.660 That's exactly what is going on here. And of course, all of the people who said that they are anti-fascist

00:03:12.640 are for this kind of wedding of corporate and government power. Really scary stuff. We saw it in

00:03:18.200 Canada with the trucking protest as well. Moms for Liberty said PayPal had already accepted the paperwork

00:03:24.140 they filed with the IRS. After DeSantis' press conference announcing that he wants legislation passed

00:03:30.300 to prohibit companies like PayPal from discriminating against customers. This press conference happened

00:03:36.260 just the other day. PayPal released the funds and began letting Moms for Liberty use them again.

00:03:42.640 So don't you see that it just takes a little strength from the people in power? For so long,

00:03:48.820 Republicans have just said, oh no, companies can do what they want to do. That's freedom. That's the

00:03:53.660 free market. Well, now that we now we see that corporations use their power. They pair it with

00:03:59.980 the government's power. They weaponize it to punish people that do not agree with that do not go along

00:04:06.940 with the progressive regime. And the only way to fight back, the only way to push back on that

00:04:13.300 is people with power, Republican elected officials saying no and say, no, we are going to punish the

00:04:20.640 companies that are punishing you. Conservative. And so that's what DeSantis is doing. Of course,

00:04:26.540 that's what he did with Disney as well. Fully support this. If this is the new form of conservatism,

00:04:32.060 if this is the new form of the Republican Party, I am 100% on board. So once again, go DeSantis.

00:04:39.760 This is what I like to see. I want to see more Republicans leading in this way and following his example.

00:04:50.640 Jason, thanks so much for joining us. Tell us why Nancy Pelosi is going to Taiwan. Why does it matter?

00:05:08.120 Taiwan is one of the more interesting things going on in the world right now, mostly because it's just so

00:05:14.280 ambiguous. And I think that's a good word because the original, you know, our original act, the Taiwan 0.97

00:05:21.020 Relations Act was nicknamed strategic ambiguity because it was so confusing. And it was done that

00:05:26.920 way on purpose, right? It was done that way so that we didn't really know, they didn't really know what

00:05:32.380 we wanted out of Taiwan, vice versa. We didn't want to confront each other on it too much. We kind of

00:05:39.080 just wanted to let it, you hear the word status quo, just be what it was, which was ambiguous.

00:05:45.660 Right.

00:05:46.420 So that's just the way they were, you know, you know, hoping that it remained. But Pelosi going

00:05:51.960 there is, is interesting on many levels, because you really don't know why Pelosi does some of the

00:05:58.140 things she does when she does them internationally. Like, why is the Speaker of the House undermining the 1.00

00:06:03.080 foreign policy of the President of the United States? I don't like the current President of the

00:06:06.400 United States. But even still, Speaker of the House shouldn't be undermining United States foreign

00:06:10.540 policy. It's not, it's not her job.

00:06:12.160 So how is this undermining United States foreign policy, her going there? 0.96

00:06:16.020 So the official line of United States foreign policy, as confusing as it is versus, you know,

00:06:22.420 as it pertains to Taiwan, is that it's an unresolved issue. It's an unresolved issue. It's

00:06:27.720 been unresolved since, you know, it began around 1950.

00:06:31.280 And by unresolved issue, you mean that Taiwan sees itself as independent. China does not see

00:06:36.720 Taiwan as independent. And China kind of wants to take over Taiwan the same way that they took

00:06:41.800 over Hong Kong. And so the U.S. is kind of like, well, we don't know.

00:06:45.860 Right. And, you know, we've been trying to stop Taiwan from actually saying, hey, we're sovereign

00:06:50.440 and declaring independence, even though that's what they want.

00:06:52.560 Okay.

00:06:52.840 So when the State Department says, I think you just said the other day, we don't support

00:06:57.420 Taiwan's independence. That's what they mean.

00:07:01.860 Yes. But you're not really supposed to say that out in the open like that.

00:07:05.340 That's why it was, you know, labeled strategic ambiguity, because you're not supposed to make

00:07:09.800 a very public statement. When people say, has that basically been the United States? You've

00:07:14.000 probably seen that a lot from people like on social media or whatever. A lot of people were

00:07:18.360 putting out like a quote, said, yeah, that's the way it's been since 1950s.

00:07:22.000 I would say technically, yes, but also more ambiguous. No. Right. I mean, again, think of

00:07:30.780 everything going on with Taiwan as like the most confusing Christopher Nolan movies that

00:07:35.660 we've ever seen. Or, you know, like we're like, wait, this could be taken this way. It

00:07:39.460 could be taken that way. China's one China policy. Right. That is Christopher Nolan's

00:07:45.280 inception. Our treaties and our foreign relations and how we deal with them.

00:07:50.940 That's interstellar, which for me was even more confusing than inception. And then who

00:07:56.780 actually holds claim to the island of Taiwan period, whether it's, you know, the Republic

00:08:01.720 of China, which we can get into that later, which is Taiwan, or if it's China itself, you

00:08:07.060 know, that's Tenet, basically. And it's all confusing and no one understands. But I think

00:08:11.240 a good way to start with is just kind of go back into the history, like why this is coming

00:08:16.260 to a head now. But basically, the thing between Taiwan and China is the maybe the only unresolved

00:08:23.580 civil war that's still going on. Of course, when Mao overthrew the Republic of China, you

00:08:29.960 know, back in the 50s, the leadership just picked up left as they were getting beat back

00:08:36.120 and driven to the shore, hopped on boats and went to Taiwan. So the current government in

00:08:41.820 Taiwan has its roots from the civil war, the government that Mao kicked out. And now they're

00:08:47.340 on Taiwan. So you can see why this is very symbolic to China, they never finished the job,

00:08:52.420 right? This would be like if General Lee and our civil war didn't give up and said, No, screw you 0.98

00:08:58.120 guys, we're going to keep fighting. And we're going to take the United States back one day, and 0.60

00:09:03.000 went to the island of Cuba, and just set up and they continue to call themselves the United States

00:09:08.720 of America, or the Confederates of America, or whatever. And it was still frozen to this

00:09:13.620 day.

00:09:13.940 Right. Okay. That's a good comparison to kind of help people understand what's really going

00:09:18.420 on. And some people don't even know what Mao's Cultural Revolution was. I know it's hard to

00:09:22.660 sum up in a sentence, but can you just talk about what it was and why there is still so much

00:09:27.180 tension there?

00:09:28.220 Mao's Cultural Revolution? 0.51

00:09:29.400 Yeah.

00:09:29.560 Well, Mao, so Mao basically was, you have to destroy your history, you have to destroy

00:09:39.280 everything, all your values, everything that made you who you were, and you have to be brought

00:09:43.600 up in this mold of communism. So everything culturally identifiable to them at the time,

00:09:50.980 they completely destroyed. The people that left Taiwan that were fighting against that,

00:09:55.940 they were the ones that were, you know, alive during this area, they were the ones that were

00:09:59.380 fighting against that.

00:10:00.280 Yeah.

00:10:00.620 I'm not going to go to bat for the Republic of China, because I'm sure they, you know,

00:10:04.060 the people that left and went to Taiwan, because, you know, I'm sure they did a lot of messed 0.90

00:10:07.600 up things too. But those were the people that were around in that era, and then left.

00:10:11.620 Yeah. Mao was a communist in the 20th century, and his Cultural Revolution was basically trying

00:10:16.360 to implement communism everywhere. That and the whole Great Leap Forward killed tens of millions

00:10:21.420 of people, not just by killing dissidents, as totalitarians always do, but also through

00:10:26.760 famine. So the people that went to Taiwan were kind of rebelling against that communist revolution.

00:10:33.100 And those tensions are still there today, because, of course, the Chinese Communist Party is still

00:10:38.020 communist and still holds on to a lot of Mao's values, right? So they see Taiwan as a threat.

00:10:44.480 Sure. Yeah, an actual threat, and a symbolic threat, because they never actually got it done.

00:10:50.000 China. China's one China policy is very interesting to me, too, because everyone has a different kind

00:10:56.300 of description for it. And you've even seen that from US leaders, as far as people in Taiwan. So

00:11:01.260 Taiwan and China, they don't recognize each other as actual governments. Taiwan doesn't see the PRC

00:11:06.360 as an actual government, you know, government, the people in control of China. And China, likewise,

00:11:11.440 does not recognize the Republic of China, Taiwan. So when they say one China, and this was even said way

00:11:19.220 back in the day, when, when Nixon, and then Carter, and then it was solidified, you know, in 1979,

00:11:24.960 with the Taiwan Relations Act, that look, everyone agrees that there is one China, that Taiwan, people

00:11:32.480 in Taiwan, and the people of China are the same people, and that there can't be more than one China.

00:11:37.800 But the problem is that the wording on our end is very ambiguous, because we're not really saying

00:11:43.700 that the people in Taiwan aren't the legitimate government, even though we've told China that we

00:11:49.520 say that the PRC is the legitimate government of China. Taiwan thinks that, yes, there is one China,

00:11:56.300 they agree, but they think that they are the ones that you know, it is so convoluted, and it's so

00:12:02.260 confusing. And that's exactly the way they've kind of wanted it to be. Yeah. That's why when you have

00:12:07.980 like the, you know, the State Department coming out and saying, no, we do not, you know, support

00:12:13.240 sovereignty, we don't support independence in Taiwan. That's when you come out and say it so bluntly,

00:12:18.340 you're basically agreeing with the People's Republic of China, with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:12:23.220 So what's stopping China from just taking over Taiwan the same way that they took over Hong Kong

00:12:39.060 a couple years ago? So Newt Gingrich went in 1997. China did not like it then. But they didn't have 0.87

00:12:46.160 the military capability to do it. They still don't really have the military capability to do it, or

00:12:50.940 they would. They're on a, they're on a timeline to eventually get everything they want. They were

00:12:57.500 on a timeline to take back Hong Kong. And a lot of people were saying, hey, you know, this is

00:13:02.440 outrageous, you know, it's supposed to be two parties, you know, or two systems, you know, one

00:13:06.620 country. True. But in the agreement with Hong Kong, it was always that China would take full control

00:13:11.960 eventually. There was I can't remember how many decades it was until the two systems was just going to

00:13:17.640 be thrown out the door. China just accelerated it because they're more in a position to accelerate 0.97

00:13:22.100 right now. The thing with Pelosi that really pisses me off is, is that now, since China's growing in 0.91

00:13:29.160 their military, military capability and economic power, they're accelerating the timeline with Taiwan.

00:13:35.740 So when you when you asked me earlier about, you know, why Pelosi's visit was so important or so

00:13:43.200 damaging. That's one of them. You're accelerating a timeline, which is going to be painful. You know,

00:13:47.920 it's people will die when this happens. She's accelerating that time. And we don't even know 0.98

00:13:52.940 if, you know, why is Pelosi even doing this? Yeah. Is it purely legacy? Because I remember it was back

00:13:58.520 in the this was right after Tiananmen Square. Remember, she did this big public member that

00:14:03.180 unfurled that thing. Well, I saw a clip that was going around recently. And I think that was

00:14:07.800 people were trying to say, look, she's always been an ally of Taiwan. This is her taking a stand

00:14:12.260 against the CCP, which, look, I'm for taking a stand against the CCP. And if that's what it was

00:14:18.240 for, I'd be happy, I guess that, you know, for that kind of courage. But it's hard for me to believe

00:14:25.380 that someone who has sold out the United States so consistently to the CCP in a variety of ways,

00:14:31.700 economically and so on, that she would really be taking the stand out of sheer bravery and virtue.

00:14:37.180 Right. And that's, that's the left in a nutshell, right? They, they put this mask of virtue on,

00:14:42.580 but what are they doing behind the scenes? And we know what the Pelosi's do behind the scenes. That's

00:14:46.080 what makes this, this is almost like the Biden's, you know, when they talk about, you know, again,

00:14:52.720 being virtuous or just be, you know, having, you know, the country's interests in mind,

00:14:56.940 but you have the president's son flying off with you and doing deals in China,

00:15:00.260 or doing deals in Eastern Europe and all this stuff. They're crony capitalists is what they are.

00:15:05.760 They're everything the left says they hate, but they are the poster childs for this. And Nancy

00:15:09.780 Pelosi is one of the worst as well. How are we supposed to know what you really want to do

00:15:13.020 when she was headlining that, that chip act to boost, you know, semiconductor production here 0.79

00:15:19.720 in the United States? Yeah. Tell us a little bit more about that, because that's what a lot of

00:15:23.460 people are saying. This is really about. So what does that mean? Well, you know, I don't know if

00:15:27.980 that was really about, but it definitely looks suspicious, right? I mean, and what is that act?

00:15:32.600 So that's supposed to boost semiconductor production in the United States by granting

00:15:37.200 subsidies to, you know, chip companies here in the United States.

00:15:41.320 What does that have to do with China? Why are people saying that that actually helps

00:15:44.560 China and that this somehow has to do with Pelosi and Taiwan?

00:15:48.280 So Taiwan is by far the biggest semiconductor producer in the United States. So this is,

00:15:54.480 you can see where the conflict of interest start coming in. So there was that very public

00:15:58.180 selling of her husband's when he sold that Nvidia stock took a loss. Nvidia gets all of their chips

00:16:06.980 pretty much from the largest company in Taiwan that makes superconductors. She actually, that was part

00:16:15.620 of her trip is she got a tour of their manufacturing plant like yesterday, hours ago, I guess.

00:16:23.080 So this could be about making her and her husband more money.

00:16:27.240 It could be. We don't know. And when they're so, when it's that corrupt and that's, you know,

00:16:33.180 it's, it's that crony-ish, if that's a word, you don't know what their true motivations are.

00:16:38.240 What we do know is they've made tens and tens of millions of dollars, the Pelosi family,

00:16:42.640 by gaming the system, right? I mean, this, this is what we hate about government, right? It's like

00:16:47.720 when, when they claimed to be for everyone, but they all become multimillionaires when they were

00:16:53.420 just regular people, when they first got into office, you know, it's, it's bull is, is what it

00:16:57.700 is. Yeah. But, but we don't know, right? So like, she's either chasing a legacy or just doing photo

00:17:03.020 ops like she did in Tiananmen Square. Maybe this was her last hurrah, you know, because she's, what is

00:17:08.400 she, 81 or something like that? Maybe this is her last legacy defining moment. You know, when I stood up

00:17:13.400 to China, even though you're accelerating a timeline and making it, making military conflict

00:17:19.560 closer. Yeah. That's the danger we're talking about. And all for a photo op or for what stock?

00:17:24.720 Yeah. More stocks. And Taiwan seems eager to welcome her. Also Pelosi, she wrote or someone

00:17:32.200 wrote for her an op ed in the Washington Post. And I'll just get your reaction to what she says.

00:17:38.460 It's a little bit different than how you're describing it. She says that the Taiwan Relations Act

00:17:42.580 set out America's commitment to a democratic Taiwan, providing the framework for an economic

00:17:47.120 and diplomatic relationship that would quickly flourish into a key partnership. It fostered a

00:17:51.400 deep friendship rooted in shared interests and values. And she says yet disturbingly, this vibrant,

00:17:57.640 robust democracy is under threat. In recent years, Beijing has dramatically intensified tensions with

00:18:03.080 Taiwan. They've ramped up patrols of bombers, fighter jets, surveillance aircraft near and even over

00:18:09.460 Taiwan's air defense zone. In the face of the CCP's accelerating aggression, our congressional

00:18:14.440 delegations visit should be seen as an unequivocal statement that America stands with Taiwan, our

00:18:19.320 democratic partner, as it defends itself and its freedom. So that's why she says that she's going.

00:18:25.680 Well, so Taiwan Relations Act, like I said, was very, very confusing. It was very confusing on purpose.

00:18:31.840 They were not a democracy when we did that act. That came later in the timeline. I think the only

00:18:41.080 reason, really, the only reason that we had to do it is because the Soviet Union was around at the

00:18:46.160 time and we were fighting a cold war against the Soviet Union. We wanted, it was not only, again, 0.69

00:18:52.160 symbolic, but it was also very strategic to have the other largest communist, you know, entity in the

00:18:58.160 world, China opposed to the Soviet Union. So that was a big ally. That's why Nixon began it in the

00:19:03.440 early 70s. It's why Carter continued it. That was a huge shift in global geopolitics when we brought

00:19:09.600 the Chinese in with us against the Soviet Union. That was the only reason we continued to, you know,

00:19:16.560 try and deal with Taiwan. And before that, it was because we supported the Republic of China.

00:19:21.960 We did not support communist Mao. Um, that was the, it was practical geopolitics. It had nothing to do

00:19:29.140 about feelings and it had nothing to do with, you know, setting a framework for democracy in Taiwan

00:19:33.920 had nothing to do with that. And this is a problem with things that remain that are old, like the

00:19:39.740 Taiwan Relations Act. Um, and it's, you saw this, you know, in the, in the breakout of World War I,

00:19:45.680 old treaties, old alliances will bring larger conflicts later in line when things change.

00:19:51.960 The world is not what the world was after World War II. The world is much different.

00:19:57.240 Um, and another example, and we might've talked about this before, but Japan, there's no reason

00:20:01.940 why Japan should still be under a constitution, you know, clause or amendment that says they can't

00:20:08.000 build up their military more that we imposed them on them. MacArthur supervised that they should

00:20:13.660 get rid of that. It's a legacy of World War II. They should be the ones countering China 1.00

00:20:18.540 and offering friendship and protection to Taiwan. They're right there. They're in the region. That

00:20:25.160 should not be us. Yeah. We should not be responsible to grant security for a country

00:20:30.720 that's what? 10,000 miles away. That should not be us. If you want to see, and you, you asked a good

00:20:36.760 question before, why doesn't China, why haven't they just done this already? You know, and why do they

00:20:41.880 think they can do it now? Well, they're pretty much at the point where they can make a significant

00:20:46.940 case that they can pull this off. And that is, you know, take Taiwan. How can we really defend

00:20:53.000 them? And the answer is we could have back then, you know, after World War II or during the Cold

00:20:57.900 War, we could have back then. Right now, I don't know if we could, we could put up a good fight, 0.95

00:21:03.040 but you're looking at a country that's right next door to the other country that might invade them.

00:21:08.100 How are we going to cross six to 10,000 miles and put up an adequate defense on that? The world is

00:21:13.900 not the same. It's different. Yeah. And we should not be acting the same way we were post-World War II

00:21:18.760 or during the Cold War, post, in the immediate years post-Cold War, of being the security grantor

00:21:24.320 for all these people. Like, it really shouldn't be our job. And it even says in the documentation

00:21:30.100 in the Taiwan Relations Act and all the other communicators during the time that, look, this

00:21:34.780 is a problem that you, between Chinese people, Chinese people need to figure this out. Chinese

00:21:39.720 people in Taiwan, Chinese people in mainland China. This is something you guys need to figure

00:21:43.480 out. Our security grantee said, look, all we're saying is, we don't think that it should be

00:21:48.580 core, you know, kinetic coercion. It shouldn't be violent. There shouldn't be violence. There

00:21:54.620 shouldn't be blockades, none of that stuff. Then we'll come in and help you if it happens. But you

00:21:59.260 need to figure that out. Problem is, they're just never going to figure it out. Eventually,

00:22:04.240 it will come down to them, whether militarily or I can't think of any other way they would. But,

00:22:09.460 you know, the two brothers are going to have to fight it out, probably, and figure it out

00:22:13.080 themselves. But the United States should not be the ones, you know, based off of an old treaty

00:22:17.820 that says, hey, we're going to go in. And remember, this goes back to the Soviet Union and us fighting

00:22:24.100 the Soviet Union. How ridiculous is it now that this is leading our foreign policy between China

00:22:28.780 Taiwan now? It's insane. And China is obviously upset by this. They said that they're running 0.90

00:22:35.780 targeted drills, missile tests around Taiwan in response to Pelosi's visit, said that these

00:22:41.380 operations are designed to safeguard national sovereignty. China vowed to resolutely thwart

00:22:46.720 external interference in Taiwan's independence and separatist attempts. 21 aircraft entered

00:22:53.440 Taiwan's air defense zone. U.S. officials have decided this is all according to Politico,

00:22:59.180 have decided that China's threats are nothing more than an intimidation tactic. But the Pentagon

00:23:03.360 did deploy four U.S. warships, including an aircraft carrier in waters of East Taiwan. I mean,

00:23:09.780 are we looking at a provocation of war with China? Because that kind of freaks me out.

00:23:15.560 Yeah. The military exercises by China is pretty much what I expected. I didn't think that they

00:23:21.460 were going to do anything to Pelosi, the plane, or even start actually firing missiles or anything.

00:23:28.300 They're not quite ready to do that. This is what they want to do, but they're not quite ready.

00:23:33.300 Do they want a hot war with the U.S.?

00:23:35.380 I think that they'd be willing to do it over Taiwan because of the symbolic nature of it.

00:23:40.340 But the U.S. should not be willing to do it, is what you're arguing.

00:23:43.260 No, no, no, no. The U.S. is not in a position to carry that out.

00:23:47.320 And I'm sure there's going to be tons of people that will disagree with me on that.

00:23:50.540 Do you feel the same way with Russia and Ukraine?

00:23:53.400 Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

00:23:54.400 Yeah, absolutely. I do agree that the world is changing. People need to come to that agreement

00:24:01.540 as well. It's not a unipolar world anymore.

00:24:05.400 And that we should not be going around, as you said, being the safeguards for countries that

00:24:12.920 need it.

00:24:13.640 Right. We shouldn't be the granter of security for all these people anymore.

00:24:15.860 Yeah.

00:24:16.420 That is not the world, even though all these people, and you'll hear it from foreign policy

00:24:20.800 experts on mainstream media, they're still talking as if it is 1985 or the end of the Cold War,

00:24:29.200 1991 or 2.

00:24:30.560 Right and left.

00:24:31.480 That's right and left. Exactly right. We are not that country. The world is not that world.

00:24:37.040 Yeah.

00:24:38.160 China is more than capable of trying to do this and probably can do this. We are not capable

00:24:45.460 of responding to everything else that is going on in the world and coming out victorious everywhere.

00:24:52.980 We're just not. Like I said, it's not a unipolar world anymore where the United States is the

00:24:56.660 sole superpower capable of pretty much doing whatever they want to do with no other country

00:25:00.980 being able to respond.

00:25:02.580 Yeah.

00:25:02.860 Some of these countries now are capable of responding. Some of these countries are forming

00:25:06.580 other alliances, you know, to counter us. And they're more than capable of doing it.

00:25:11.680 Yeah.

00:25:11.980 It's now a multipolar world.

00:25:13.960 Right.

00:25:14.400 And that's the reality. And really, that's pretty much where it should be. There shouldn't

00:25:18.820 be one nation in the world running off to take care of all these problems. Other countries

00:25:26.120 can take care of their own problems. We've got plenty of problems we have here at home that

00:25:30.240 we should be focused on.

00:25:42.460 And America is not what it was in 1985. I'm not even sure there's a will to be that country

00:25:48.400 that's running around to other countries. And I'm not sure if our military has the capability

00:25:53.700 or the willpower. I mean, think about the cultural rot that has infected a lot of the

00:25:58.620 military, even though a lot of them are still some of the best people in the country. I mean,

00:26:03.080 I also doubt our capability to do the things that it seems like our elected officials want

00:26:09.280 us to do, which is, as you said, be the guarantors of safety and security for the world. I just

00:26:13.860 I'm not sure that we can even do it if we wanted to.

00:26:17.120 It's funny you say that, because yesterday I was watching all the developments going on. And there was

00:26:21.980 one article that popped up, you know, in my feed that said, you know, the United States Air Force

00:26:26.000 is, you know, ready and willing to respond if needed. Very second article I saw said,

00:26:33.040 U.S. Air Force host drag queen story hour on base, blah, blah, blah. I was like, are you kidding me

00:26:38.720 right now?

00:26:39.940 Yeah.

00:26:40.120 And their recruiting numbers are so far down.

00:26:41.880 Because, I mean, who wants to enter the military as I mean, they're so often working class young 1.00

00:26:48.980 men, very often young white men who are now hearing from top officials in the military that

00:26:55.900 they are going to be analyzing and dismantling what they see as white rage and toxic masculinity

00:27:01.600 in the patriarchy. I mean, who wants to serve that country? Who wants to serve that military?

00:27:05.560 It's sad. I just want to get your quick reaction analysis to the Al-Qaeda leader,

00:27:11.560 Ayman al-Zawahari, that was apparently killed by U.S. forces. Is this a win? What do you think?

00:27:21.040 I'm glad he's dead. 0.99

00:27:22.340 Yeah. 0.96

00:27:23.040 So you can take a win from that. One of the, that definitely deserves to be a headline. But there

00:27:29.220 needs to be another headline right next to that headline that says Al-Qaeda reestablishes

00:27:33.900 his base of operations in Afghanistan, which I did not really see that, I don't think at

00:27:39.560 all, right after that happened. This guy got killed in a posh neighborhood in Kabul, the

00:27:46.420 capital. Not in some deserted farmhouse, you know, out in a desert somewhere where, you

00:27:54.020 know, he was trying to hide. He was not trying to hide, right? Who was he meeting with when

00:27:59.140 he was there? Was he meeting with the Taliban defense secretary or whatever he's called?

00:28:05.800 Was he meeting with the other radical, Al-Qaeda is radical enough, but the more radical militant

00:28:12.080 arm of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan called the Haqqani Network? Was he meeting with them? Probably.

00:28:17.080 Yeah, probably. What a tragedy. Everything that we fought to get rid of.

00:28:23.680 What a tragedy in that. Al-Qaeda is now back in the capital of Afghanistan and operating

00:28:30.940 so openly. That's insane. Much thanks to our disastrous policy and pull out last year,

00:28:39.280 a year ago. I guess it was a year ago now. Right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. A year ago. Yeah.

00:28:43.640 And I think pretty much everyone agreed that we needed to get out of there. We needed to pull

00:28:48.180 out. That was not the question. The question was how we did it. Yeah. And the way they did it,

00:28:52.940 it looked as if the Biden administration was doing it again as a symbolic something for his,

00:29:00.680 for Biden's legacy or for the Democrats. It was almost like they were looking for some kind of

00:29:04.700 political win or something like that and forced this issue way too early. And strategically,

00:29:11.940 I can't even imagine how our military generals signed off on what went down. Just catastrophic,

00:29:18.820 absolutely catastrophic. But yeah, the killing of the Al-Qaeda leader, like I said, I'm glad he's 1.00

00:29:25.140 dead. He was a bad guy. A new leader will rise up. They probably already declared who that is. 0.99

00:29:31.260 And they're still operating out of Afghanistan as if it was the year 2000, which is just insane.

00:29:37.540 Yeah, just insane. Give us an updated analysis of what's going on between Ukraine and Russia,

00:29:43.980 if you can. A lot of people saw and were very put off by, to say the least, the Vogue spread

00:29:50.580 of Zelensky and his wife. It just seemed a little out of touch.

00:29:57.800 There was a little out of touch. 0.96

00:29:59.120 There was the most ridiculous photo in that spread. They were all ridiculous, right? But the worst one 0.99

00:30:05.120 was she was like in this like very expensive coat, you know, and she was like gazing off into the

00:30:09.740 distance. And there was like this war-torn scene behind her and a couple of troops, you know,

00:30:14.460 looking off in different directions. I was like, how ridiculous was that photo shoot? They basically 0.82

00:30:18.640 went out to some place. I'm sure it was safe wherever they were at or she wouldn't be there.

00:30:22.200 Of course.

00:30:22.620 But they brought in these soldiers to be like prop pieces and like, hey, take some time off the war

00:30:27.960 just so you can pose here with the first lady or whatever she's called over there. Absolutely 1.00

00:30:31.220 ridiculous. Totally tone deaf. But he's a showman, right? Zelensky, which is kind of funny now because 0.99

00:30:36.120 the mainstream media is starting to criticize him a little bit. Yeah, I think I've seen a

00:30:40.940 couple of things. I haven't really looked deeply into it because I've kind of been, you know,

00:30:46.940 about it for the past few months. But I have kind of noticed that some mainstream outlets have

00:30:52.400 criticized him a little. Well, now it's now it's back in style that you can acknowledge the fact

00:30:57.260 that Ukraine's an incredibly corrupt country. Yeah, all of a sudden, which is weird, because we've

00:31:01.040 given Ukraine a blank check. Like, how many times you hear Biden? Okay, another 500 million

00:31:05.440 dollars. Like what? I think just yesterday I saw tens of millions of dollars. And I've heard

00:31:10.060 from Ukrainians, actually, that the money is just being laundered. I think it was Ron Paul. I'm going

00:31:15.320 to butcher the quote, but he said foreign aid is money sent from poor people in rich countries to

00:31:22.000 rich people in poor countries. And that seems to be what's happening here, as it happens in most cases

00:31:26.780 when we send tens of millions of dollars to these poor war-torn countries in the name of compassion.

00:31:33.080 Every time you hear about another several million or billion dollars going to Ukraine right now,

00:31:39.020 everyone should Google $1.8 billion goes missing or whatever in Ukraine, $1.8 billion of aid. And

00:31:46.820 this was after 2014. After that, you know, their little revolution, we gave them $1.8 billion.

00:31:52.640 It went missing out of their state bank, Privat Bank. And then they think that it got laundered

00:31:57.420 through Cyprus and other shell companies. But we continue to give them money. But I think it's

00:32:01.760 funny now, though. But now they're bringing that up. They stopped talking about that, Ali,

00:32:05.520 when the president's son, then vice president's son, started dipping his toes into some of that

00:32:10.560 corruption through burisma and all that. Then they didn't want to talk about it. They didn't

00:32:13.940 want to talk about it. And as Biden was running for president, they definitely didn't want to talk

00:32:16.860 about it. They were shutting down articles, the New York Post laptop article. They were shutting down

00:32:21.160 some of these articles to expose some of that involvement. But now, as we kind of see people are

00:32:26.860 turning against Biden, now they're turning on the lights again. Now they're like, oh, maybe we can't talk

00:32:31.120 about this stuff again. Maybe we can't bring that up. But the situation in Ukraine is interesting

00:32:35.800 because Russia has... Economically, they're not in a great spot. To be a great power...

00:32:43.800 Russia? 0.61

00:32:44.200 Russia.

00:32:44.640 Okay.

00:32:45.040 To be a great power, you need to have a strong economy, you have a strong military. They don't

00:32:48.520 have a strong economy, but they were banking on that they had this strong military and the

00:32:53.060 world perceived them as being strong militarily. And that is completely thrown out the window

00:32:58.800 in Ukraine. They did not look like a professional military force at all. They had basic problems.

00:33:03.860 They did not, you know, for the military people listening to this right now, combined arms and

00:33:09.140 their ability to execute combined arms. That's, you know, troops on the ground, artillery, planes,

00:33:15.140 all that stuff, make it work cohesive. They did not do that at all, as if they'd never even

00:33:19.200 looked at it or even heard about it.

00:33:20.920 Wow.

00:33:21.020 They had, you know, conscripts out on the front lines, just kind of walking around aimlessly. 0.96

00:33:25.440 They got their butts kicked in the beginning of this war. They really did. It was a, they 0.84

00:33:28.820 wanted to do a shock and awe, you know, thing, and they got their butts kicked and they got

00:33:32.360 driven all the way back to the areas where they kind of pretty much already controlled

00:33:35.980 in Eastern Ukraine.

00:33:37.300 So what's happening right now and how is it going to resolve? Is it going to be resolved?

00:33:42.080 Yeah. Russia, if they wanted to, could really make their country suffer and just put overwhelming, 1.00

00:33:49.880 you know, numbers at this and possibly come out more on top than they are right now. I don't know.

00:33:55.400 That's, that's a big if because they're already running out of munitions, like smart munitions,

00:34:00.660 things like that. And then people are just kind of getting pissed off and just annoyed with it,

00:34:04.200 I think. But the West United States has provided a lot of weapons, a lot of good weapons,

00:34:10.460 smart weapons, effective weapons that they're at least showing that, Hey, if you want to stick

00:34:16.960 around for this for a while, we're going to make this as painful as possible for you. I still think

00:34:21.820 that this ends in some kind of treaty that helps Putin save face, but it's going to give Ukraine 0.52

00:34:30.700 some relief, but they're not going to be completely happy with it. So it's going to be something where,

00:34:36.140 you know, they agree to seed Eastern Ukraine or formally say, okay, fine, you have Crimea or

00:34:42.340 something like that, where Putin can say, see, our special military operation worked, we got what we

00:34:47.040 wanted, I gave you what we delivered. But that is not at all what he wanted. He wanted Ukraine,

00:34:53.200 he wanted to topple the government, he's not going to get that. So in my opinion, eventually,

00:34:59.500 and I hate making predictions. But I think the, the most plausible outcome would be that they

00:35:05.320 maintain control of that little sliver in Eastern Ukraine, and they formally get, you know, seeded

00:35:11.100 Crimea.

00:35:11.500 Well, to bring our focus back home, just really quickly, just because I wanted to cover this today,

00:35:26.920 and I want to get your reaction to it. You mentioned earlier that we've got a lot of problems to be

00:35:33.560 fixing and addressing here. One of those problems is, of course, George Soros, and his attempt to

00:35:39.500 quote, unquote, reform prosecutors. I don't know if you saw that he wrote an op ed in the Wall Street

00:35:44.620 Journal. And he said, people have had enough of the demagoguery and divisive partisan attacks that

00:35:49.840 dominate the debate and obscure the issues. Gosh, just makes me roll my eyes. The system is rife with

00:35:54.740 injustices that make us all less safe. The idea that we need to choose between justice and safety is

00:36:00.800 false. So basically, what he's talking about here, he's addressing the criticism that, of course,

00:36:05.500 he and his foundations have gotten for funding these progressive DAs in these blue cities that are not

00:36:12.560 prosecuting crimes, that are allowing people back into the streets, pretty much based on their skin

00:36:18.460 color. They're meeting these arbitrary quotas and saying, OK, we've arrested too many black people this 0.99

00:36:23.500 year. We're not going to arrest. We're not going to prosecute. We're not going to keep them in jail, 0.79

00:36:27.420 basically catch and release. And the recidivism rate, of course, is very high. People are being murdered.

00:36:32.640 I see stories every day. People are being murdered by someone who should have been in jail if our

00:36:38.160 justice system worked. And a lot of this is due to the funding of George Soros of these progressive

00:36:43.400 DAs. And so basically, he's saying, look, I'm not going to stop. I'm not going to stop doing this,

00:36:48.640 even though in the cities with the top 10 cities with the most murders per capita, if you look at the

00:36:55.500 politics of the district attorneys, they are all Democrat. The mayor is Democrat, even if the states are

00:37:01.900 Republican, St. Louis, Baltimore, Birmingham, Detroit, Dayton, Ohio, Baton Rouge, New Orleans,

00:37:07.420 Kansas City, Memphis, Cleveland, all run by Democrats, many of them funded by George Soros.

00:37:12.940 He's not going to stop. I mean, if anyone cared about this country who is in charge,

00:37:18.000 what he's doing would be barred, prohibited, illegal. But it's not. What's your take on all of this?

00:37:23.900 Yeah, it's absolutely insane. Think about any other country. How would they react if a foreign 1.00

00:37:28.400 billionaire goes around basically inciting chaos on your largest cities? Right. How would they react?

00:37:37.420 We can barely even discuss this, like this conversation right now. Remember Fox News and

00:37:41.880 Newt Gingrich brought this up and they cut him off? Yes. They cut it. Fox News. Fox News. Fox News

00:37:48.300 said, oh, no, no, no, no. That's a conspiracy theory. I've been told, of course, before, but by

00:37:52.480 left-leaning people, that's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. Insane. Yeah. Absolutely

00:37:57.740 insane. I think it was $29 or $30 million, what Soros has spent on some of these district

00:38:03.100 attorneys. It's absolutely ridiculous. In his little op-ed, I mean, it was ripe with just 0.95

00:38:11.720 inconsistencies and hypocrisy. Of course. Orwellian, doublespeak. I mean. 0.91

00:38:16.880 He was talking about, so he acknowledges mental health, right? So he's like, yeah,

00:38:22.320 mental health issues, you know, and so that's why some of the, you know, there's chaos. Not

00:38:25.760 because of my district attorney is not prosecuting. So mental health is one of the reasons. So the

00:38:31.380 cure for that in his district attorneys is less laws and less action on the streets. But he also

00:38:38.060 mentions gun crime. He mentions, oh, yeah, an overwhelming amount of guns. So more laws for that.

00:38:43.800 He won't acknowledge mental health on some of the, on some of the gun crimes and some of the

00:38:47.720 mass shootings. Where's the consistency there? Right. It's obviously, this is completely partisan.

00:38:54.020 You're trying. So my completely tinfoil hat thing is that he. Is anything even really tinfoil hat

00:39:00.720 anymore? Not anymore. I mean, conspiracies just keep on coming true. They all come true.

00:39:05.260 Eventually it's nuts. But everything that we've already talked about or just hypothesized because

00:39:08.940 some of this stuff doesn't make sense. Yeah. Why would they do this? But like, this does not make

00:39:12.720 sense unless you want the judicial system to completely come crashing down. Of course.

00:39:16.340 You want chaos. You want anarchy. Because why would he be funding that here? He's not an American.

00:39:22.360 Of course, I think that he has an interest in the collapse of America and Western civilization and

00:39:26.720 has for a very long time. He's not funding these progressive DAs. I mean, maybe he is in some other

00:39:32.000 countries, but I don't think that he is funding the same kind of lawlessness in China. So I think 0.96

00:39:37.660 someone should ask themselves why here? Yeah. Well, the Chinese system is exactly what they want. 0.98

00:39:41.800 It's the same people, the guys over in Davos World Economic Forum. They're all billionaires

00:39:45.100 themselves. They're all the elite of the elite. They've already made their money. They've made

00:39:50.240 their power. Now they want a system like China where you have to have a government official

00:39:54.720 in every single company. You have to have a government. So you want to bring everybody

00:39:58.260 down to parity while you stay at the very, very top. It's the socialist, you know, you know,

00:40:02.640 communist system in a nutshell. But it's different. It's it's more like, you know, 21st century

00:40:07.340 fascism. It's it's it's it's cause chaos. So people can say someone save us government

00:40:12.920 step in and do something and then they take their power and that's it. And give these private 0.90

00:40:16.800 companies the illusion that they really own their property and their business when we tell

00:40:21.360 them everything what to do. And equity and social justice is the Trojan horse by which they're

00:40:26.220 accomplishing all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we do have a lot to focus on here in the US. But

00:40:31.860 thank you for giving us an analysis of everything that is going on around the globe. No, it was it

00:40:38.980 was great. I really do appreciate it. Thanks, Jason, so much for coming on. I encourage people to

00:40:43.820 follow you. You're on Twitter and all that good stuff and people can catch you there. Thank you.

00:40:48.680 All right, guys, hope that you enjoyed that explanation from Jason. I told you he breaks

00:41:04.640 it down really well. If you want him to come back on for a part two to kind of get into more detail

00:41:09.400 of anything that we talked about, we had a limited amount of time. There are a million questions I

00:41:13.720 could have asked him. So we'll bring him back if that's something that you that you want us to do.

00:41:18.520 I know you guys love him as a guest tomorrow. We are going to be talking about all of these stories

00:41:24.140 that you are hearing that these women are unable to get miscarriage care. They're unable to get

00:41:30.040 ectopic pregnancy care. I am going to talk to a journalist who just wrote an almost 5000 word piece

00:41:36.940 for national review, looking at each and every abortion law and figuring out whether that law is

00:41:45.980 actually causing this prevention of care or inhibition of care for these women that are suffering

00:41:54.180 from miscarriages or ectopics. And if not, if it's not the law's fault, then what is really going on

00:42:00.220 here? What's going on here with the lawyers, with the doctors, with the hospitals, with the insurance

00:42:06.380 companies? We're going to analyze all of that tomorrow and get a lot of insight and clarity

00:42:10.520 from Alexandra De Sanctis. If you haven't checked out our merch, make sure you do that. We've got

00:42:15.120 lots of fun stuff. We'll include the link in the description today so you can check that out.

00:42:21.780 And we will see you guys back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 03, 2022

Ep 654 ｜ What’s REALLY Going On with Taiwan & Pelosi？｜ Guest： Jason Buttrill

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 03, 2022

Ep 654 ｜ What’s REALLY Going On with Taiwan & Pelosi？ ｜ Guest： Jason Buttrill

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Ep 654 ｜ What’s REALLY Going On with Taiwan & Pelosi？｜ Guest： Jason Buttrill