Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 14, 2022


Ep 678 | Great Reset Update: Farm Shutdowns & Power Rationing | Guest: Justin Haskins


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Justin Haskins, author and editor-in-director of the Heartland Institute and one of my favorite guests, joins me to discuss the recent death of Queen Elizabeth II and the impact that will have on the Great Reset movement.


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00:00:00.000 Europe is in shambles as the World Economic Forum's Great Reset Energy policies are crushing
00:00:06.680 the continent. Sweden, Germany, the UK are all suffering draconian measures by their governments
00:00:14.040 that include shutting down farms in the name of saving the environment. Here in the States,
00:00:20.700 California is bearing the brunt of this authoritarian nonsense. And all of this,
00:00:25.440 as the Biden administration, other world leaders and corporations are cracking down on dissent.
00:00:32.340 What does this all mean? Where is all of this going to take us? Justin Haskins, author and editorial
00:00:37.680 director of the Heartland Institute, also one of my all-time favorite guests, and if you have not
00:00:42.840 listened to our previous episodes, you will soon see why, is here to break it all down for us. Go
00:00:49.140 back, listen to our other conversations about the World Economic Forum, about ESG, about the Great
00:00:55.920 Reset. We will link it in the description of this episode. This interview is brought to you by our
00:01:01.520 friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com slash Allie. That's goodranchers.com slash Allie.
00:01:07.440 Justin, thank you so much for joining us again. As always, I've got a lot to talk about getting the
00:01:22.720 update on how the Great Reset is going. First thing I want to talk about in light of recent events,
00:01:28.520 the Queen's death. There has been some debate that I've seen online about whether she was involved with
00:01:35.300 the World Economic Forum and whether King Charles is just kind of a shill for the elites, friends with
00:01:41.880 Klaus Schwab. He's a big fan of the green agenda. And so what is your take on all of that? What do you
00:01:47.940 think the future of the UK is under this, I don't know if you call it leadership, but I guess King
00:01:54.360 Charles' leadership? Yeah. So there's no doubt about it whatsoever that King Charles is, as Prince
00:02:03.580 Charles, was a huge proponent of the Great Reset. He was heavily involved in the Great Reset movement
00:02:09.360 from the very beginning. In fact, he was one of the co-hosts of the event that kicked off the slogan,
00:02:15.040 the Great Reset, Word the World Economic Forum. He's been partnering with them and big financial
00:02:19.660 institutions around the world to try to promote the sort of ESG, social credit score, Great Reset
00:02:25.140 agenda for a very long time. So there's no doubt about that. As far as the Queen is concerned,
00:02:30.100 as far as I know, the Queen was not really involved in any of this stuff. And of course,
00:02:35.660 even with King Charles being king, as opposed to being prince, I'm not really sure that the
00:02:41.220 influence factor means a whole lot for the Great Reset movement. The King of England, this isn't 1632,
00:02:49.800 okay? So the King of England doesn't have a ton of power like they used to have. And so I don't know
00:02:56.080 that it means a whole lot for policy in England. The United Kingdom has been going full bore into
00:03:01.980 the Great Reset agenda, along with most other European countries for a while now anyway. And
00:03:07.920 so I don't think it's going to change anything, but it probably guarantees that it's going to keep
00:03:12.480 moving in that direction. And so that's not unimportant, but I wouldn't say this is some
00:03:17.080 sort of a landmark shift toward the Great Reset. That already happened in the United Kingdom.
00:03:21.320 Boris Johnson was a proponent of it as well. So I don't think there's a whole lot new there.
00:03:29.080 Right. And the King or the Queen, the monarch is supposed to be an apolitical figure. Of course,
00:03:35.520 the Queen maintained that through her 70-year reign. King Charles, depending on his respect for the
00:03:44.640 position and the apolitical nature of the position, will either maintain that or not. But as you
00:03:51.200 said, how much power does he really wield as the King, even if he did decide, OK, I'm going to try
00:03:58.100 to push this agenda as much as possible? That's just not really how the government of the UK is set
00:04:02.500 up for him to really kind of take the reins and push things forward. And as you said, things are
00:04:07.180 already moving in that direction. We've got a new leader, Liz Truss. She's also part of the Conservative
00:04:14.140 Party. I don't know if you know very much about her and kind of which direction she leans when it
00:04:19.280 comes to the green agenda in the World Economic Forum. Yeah, as far as far as I know, she's pretty
00:04:25.300 much in line with every politician in Europe, which is all moving toward the Great Reset. There's very
00:04:32.040 few people, especially in Western Europe, there's very few big leaders that are opposed to the Great
00:04:38.480 Reset that are actually in power. The vast majority of them support that agenda, especially in light of
00:04:43.860 everything that's going on with Ukraine and Russia, which is tied up in all of this. I don't think that
00:04:48.920 we're going to see a major policy shift because we have a new prime minister. Right. Now, let's talk about
00:04:55.460 what's going on in Europe right now. As you said, Europe is going full steam ahead into ESG and the green
00:05:01.960 agenda. And we're already seeing some of the consequences of that. There's an energy crisis in Europe. And this
00:05:07.500 is, according to NBC, Gazprom keeps pipeline to Germany switched off as G7 caps Russian oil prices.
00:05:16.200 I mean, we're seeing all kinds of stories coming out of Europe about how people just don't have
00:05:21.000 enough energy to be able to heat their homes. The government is cracking down on this kind of stuff,
00:05:25.380 rationing energy for the sake of some kind of climate agenda. And as you said, that is tied up
00:05:31.440 in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. So can you kind of help us break down what's going on
00:05:37.360 here? And is this an intended consequence? Yeah. So the energy crisis that's been going on in Europe
00:05:45.240 is a combination of many, many different factors. A lot of people look at the war that's going on
00:05:50.540 between Russia and Ukraine. And I would argue, really, the rest of Europe is also involved in
00:05:57.080 that war. They're on the economic side of it. But the sanctions that they leveled against Russia,
00:06:02.580 some of the banking and other financial actions they've taken against Russia are really a sort of
00:06:09.120 economic war that they're waging. It's really not a whole lot different than a blockade or something
00:06:13.760 like that, as you'd imagine in previous eras of warfare. So it may not be full-blown war between all
00:06:20.520 of Europe and Russia, but it kind of is a war that's going on, just a different kind. And so what's
00:06:27.220 happening here with Russia threatening to cut off energy to certain parts of Europe that are very
00:06:33.800 dependent on Russia, that's part of what's driving up the price of energy right now in Europe. The
00:06:39.780 price of energy has already been very, very high in Europe, in large part because of what's been
00:06:44.860 going on in the war and the way that Russia has been dealing with that. The reason Russia is
00:06:48.680 interested or is considering cutting off energy to certain countries in Europe is because there has
00:06:56.460 been talk in Europe of putting price controls in place, limiting what people can pay for Russian
00:07:03.980 energy, because there's this whole, there's an understanding that Russian energy is what is
00:07:09.960 funding the war in Ukraine from the Russian side. So European politicians that don't want to get in,
00:07:16.340 that don't want to be funding Russia's military machine are saying, well, we should, at the very
00:07:21.120 least, if we can't just cut them off entirely, we should at least lower what we're paying them.
00:07:25.480 And Russia's turning around saying, well, if you're going to do that, then we're just going to cut off
00:07:28.780 the energy entirely. And good luck. Let's see what happens to your economies when you can't
00:07:33.220 keep people's homes and you can't power your industries at all in countries like Germany.
00:07:38.840 So there's a lot of that what's going on, but that's just part of it. This whole thing really
00:07:44.320 comes from at least a decade, probably two decades of energy policy. This has been building for a very
00:07:50.940 long time. European countries have made some horrible mistakes with their energy policy,
00:07:56.820 becoming more and more dependent on unreliable energy sources like wind and solar. They've shut
00:08:02.560 down nuclear facilities in some of these countries. They've shut down coal. They've shut down natural gas.
00:08:08.300 These are all forms of energy that don't require the wind to blow and the sun to shine to operate
00:08:13.220 effectively. And you can put them anywhere. You can put these nuclear power plants anywhere you want
00:08:19.380 practically, and it will work and it will work whenever you need it to. As they've done this,
00:08:24.820 and they've become more and more dependent on unreliable energy sources like wind and solar,
00:08:29.100 which are more expensive too, by the way, when you don't subsidize them, they have simultaneously
00:08:34.200 started importing increasingly more Russian natural gas and other forms of energy. Because in Russia,
00:08:41.840 they are all in on energy production. And so they are more than happy to export their energy
00:08:48.200 into these other countries. And so as they've become more dependent as Western Europe and,
00:08:54.980 well, Eastern and Western Europe, they've become more dependent on Russia directly and indirectly for
00:08:59.020 energy. The prices of energy were staying somewhat stable and they would lower than what they would
00:09:06.340 have otherwise been had Europe just gone full-blown renewable energy. But now that there's this
00:09:11.540 conflict added into the mix, you have this economic war that's breaking out and you have an energy
00:09:17.840 crisis that's resulting from that. And of course, all of the energy policies are tied up with this
00:09:23.520 concept of the Great Reset and transforming society. A huge part of that Great Reset movement
00:09:29.640 is transforming society through an economic transformation of the energy sector and what
00:09:36.900 kinds of cars people can drive and all sorts of other environmental factors. So it's all tied into
00:09:42.560 one big thing. And right now, unfortunately, for the people of Europe, they are experiencing a great
00:09:49.280 deal of pain because of decades of mistakes made by politicians.
00:09:53.280 Mm-hmm. And unfortunately, it's not just Europe. We're seeing some of the same problems
00:09:58.100 in California. I mean, there are power outages, as there often are. This is not the first time we've
00:10:03.560 seen power outages and we've seen fires in California. And people might think that this is just
00:10:10.520 accidental. Oh, this is how things happen. It's just a natural catastrophe. But these are actually
00:10:16.480 the results in some cases of environmental policy, not just when it comes to how they're managing the
00:10:24.340 forest there and how they're not allowed to really manage the forest to try to mitigate the risk of
00:10:30.880 forest fires in order to save the creatures that live in the underbrush. I mean, it's just crazy. And
00:10:36.000 also, they're not able to use all of the water that's available also for these same kind of
00:10:41.060 environmental reasons to try to protect, for example, a tiny fish called the Delta smelt. But
00:10:46.580 then also, you're looking at the green policies that have helped create these power outages. And
00:10:53.360 yet, we have Gavin Newsom and we have the Biden administration saying that California is still
00:10:58.360 going to go all in on this, that they are going to maybe eventually ban the sale of cars that use
00:11:05.280 gasoline. Well, right now, we are seeing that electric vehicles cannot get the charging power
00:11:10.960 that they need to go in California. So my question, I guess, in all of that is, we're seeing the
00:11:18.600 consequences of this green energy agenda that is driven in part, at least if not in whole. And I
00:11:26.560 guess you could tell us that by the World Economic Forum. We're seeing the catastrophe. We're seeing the
00:11:30.380 pain and suffering that it is already causing. Tell me why they are doubling down on it rather than
00:11:36.960 saying, oh, okay, this is not actually making the world a better place. I mean, what's the end game?
00:11:44.740 Yeah. So there's really only two possible answers to that question of what is the end game?
00:11:51.300 The first is, if you believe that everyone who's involved in this movement
00:11:56.040 is altruistic, and they're trying their best, and they truly, truly care about the world,
00:12:03.380 then the answer is, well, they're concerned about climate change. And the only way to stop climate
00:12:10.360 change in the long run, according to their view of this issue, is to dramatically reduce CO2 emissions.
00:12:16.880 And the only way to dramatically reduce CO2 emissions is to rely more on wind and solar and
00:12:22.880 other things. Now, that's not true, because you could rely on nuclear, and they don't want to rely
00:12:26.840 on nuclear. Nuclear has virtually no CO2 emissions, but that's a totally different story.
00:12:31.420 Why don't they want to rely on nuclear?
00:12:33.880 Well, I think the answer to that is, it shows the true motivations behind this whole movement.
00:12:41.900 The reason why they don't want to rely on nuclear, I believe, is because you don't have a dramatic
00:12:47.760 transformation of society with nuclear. You don't have massive jobs programs with nuclear energy.
00:12:53.000 You don't need to destroy huge swaths of land and build infrastructure and do all this stuff with
00:12:58.600 nuclear energy. They're relatively small power plants. You can put them just about anywhere,
00:13:03.520 and they run all the time. And you don't need to constantly be replacing them like you do with
00:13:08.540 solar panels and wind farms. You don't need big jobs programs to pull it off. You don't need a lot
00:13:12.920 of employees to run a nuclear plant. It really has a very small footprint in many ways. And I think that
00:13:19.760 one of the main goals of the Green New Deal agenda, of the Great Reset, of all these things,
00:13:24.780 is to create this massive dependency on government through this transformation of the economy that's
00:13:33.860 occurring with the energy sector. So if you have to build huge numbers of solar panels and wind farms,
00:13:40.640 those are jobs programs. Those are massive jobs programs. They're infrastructure programs. It's going
00:13:46.600 to require all sorts of things that most people don't think about, like power lines, for example. I mean,
00:13:52.120 you can't just – to have a state run entirely on wind and solar would take massive amounts of land.
00:14:00.280 And because you have to have the facilities spaced out all over the place, you need to have
00:14:05.220 transmission lines all over. You can't just build a solar farm or a wind farm anywhere. So you have to
00:14:10.560 have far more transmission lines than we have today. Well, that's another huge aspect, another big
00:14:16.500 jobs program, another huge aspect of the economic package that they sell this as. So if you believe
00:14:22.000 that big government is a motivation for some of these decisions, well, then it makes a lot of sense
00:14:27.220 to go with these kinds of energy policies as opposed to nuclear, right? And so even if you believe that
00:14:34.100 climate change is going to destroy the world – and I don't think that these people, many of them
00:14:38.540 actually believe that because they don't live like it. But even if they do believe that, it makes sense
00:14:45.020 to go to nuclear. It doesn't make sense to go to wind and solar. So I think that that really shows
00:14:50.780 what's going on there. Yes. And which is why I think the optimistic, altruistic option that you kind
00:14:58.300 of explained there is so unlikely because we have nuclear in our back pocket and we're not using it.
00:15:04.700 And by the way, all of these things, electric cars, the solar panels, the wind turbines, all of those
00:15:11.820 are made using fossil fuels. I mean, all of those are made using the very energy that they say that
00:15:17.820 we have to get away from. I have to wonder if another motivation behind this as well – and I know you've
00:15:23.200 said previously that the WEF and China aren't necessarily like purposely and deliberately linked
00:15:29.820 together – but it does increase our reliance on China. We're getting a lot of our solar panels,
00:15:35.660 a lot of our wind turbines from China. China is greatly benefiting from the energy crisis in Europe
00:15:43.180 and in the United States and in our reliance on green energy – also Russia is as well. And so I do have
00:15:50.860 to wonder if some of it is that. Because as you mentioned, all those benefits of nuclear energy,
00:15:57.100 but it also helps us create self-reliance. And that seems to be the last thing the people at
00:16:02.140 the World Economic Forum want, especially for the United States. And so the stupid green energy
00:16:09.820 policies with the wind energy and the solar energy, that does increase our reliance on China. And if you
00:16:15.740 want to get super nefarious here – and I don't even know if it's that much of a reach because Bill Gates
00:16:22.460 and Warren Buffett have all talked about their fear of overpopulation and of sustaining too many
00:16:30.620 people on this earth, it actually seems like they would like depopulation. A great way to ensure that
00:16:37.020 millions of people die, whether it's the direct and intentional consequence or not, is to shift all of
00:16:45.500 our energy to wind and solar.
00:16:48.460 Yeah. So I think without – well, first of all, I would say without a doubt, if you actually look at
00:16:53.660 what many of these environmental groups are advocating for, if you look at what their views are on
00:16:59.820 population and growing populations and things like – this has been part of the environmental movement for
00:17:04.780 a very, very long time, going back decades and decades and decades. You can find stuff in the 1960s and
00:17:10.140 70s talking about how by the year 2000 or slightly thereafter, there would be far too many people on
00:17:16.860 the planet to feed and that we need to start putting measures into place to make sure that we don't have
00:17:21.500 too many people. Paul Ehrlich and people like that, who was a big biologist, environmentalist at Stanford,
00:17:28.940 very, very famous in the 1970s and 80s and that sort of time period, advocated for all sorts of
00:17:36.620 population control measures. And so it's really actually not that crazy. In fact, China, one of
00:17:41.980 the things that they claim that their population control measures have in place, one of the reasons,
00:17:47.420 one of the benefits of that, they say, is that it has all these environmental benefits to it and
00:17:52.300 it's good for the planet. And so there's no question that there's a strain of that going through.
00:17:57.660 Now, do I think that that's the primary motivation for people like Bill Gates and stuff? No,
00:18:03.100 I don't. I think that the evidence shows that the primary motivation for them, if you believe what
00:18:08.700 they say, is they're deathly afraid of climate change. And so they think that this is all tied
00:18:14.220 into that. I don't know that they actually believe that. As I said before, I think the real motivation
00:18:21.580 behind all of this is transforming the economy, transforming society and using these job programs
00:18:28.700 as a way to do that. And there really isn't going to be a bigger jobs program than one that requires
00:18:33.980 blowing up the entire energy system and replacing it with a completely new energy system. We've never
00:18:39.900 done anything like that in the history of the world, not intentionally. And so this would be the
00:18:44.940 first time in the history of human civilization where people have chosen deliberately to destroy a
00:18:51.980 massive part of their economy on purpose. So just so that they can rebuild it in a way that would be
00:18:57.980 less effective, less safe, and really not even environmentally friendly because to build windmills
00:19:04.860 and to build wind turbines and solar farms and things like that, you need to do tons of mining. You need
00:19:11.020 to consume huge amounts of land. Some estimates say you need a landmass the size of California to power
00:19:16.780 the United States that would just be full of solar panels and windmills and stuff like that.
00:19:22.780 And you also need to then recycle these things once they break down, because in many cases they only
00:19:28.220 last 15, 20, 25 years, something like that. So you got to constantly be replacing them. And you can't recycle
00:19:33.820 them like you can, you know, plastic bottles or something. A lot of times they just sit in landfills because
00:19:40.540 there is no way to do it. And solar panels themselves, they leak toxic chemicals into the ground.
00:19:45.580 This is all kinds of huge problems. It's such a gimmick.
00:19:49.500 Yeah, it is. It absolutely is. And all of the endangered species that die from it and everything
00:19:54.460 else. So there are environmental groups that actually are opposed to windmills and solar panels
00:19:59.420 because they kill endangered animals all the time, especially birds. So at least they're consistent.
00:20:05.740 They are. I mean, some of the more radical environmentalists, I actually kind of like them
00:20:10.540 in the sense that they are consistent. And they do understand that these things won't actually
00:20:15.900 work. And their answers are, I think, crazy. It's it's depopulation efforts. It's rewilding lands,
00:20:23.420 meaning moving humans out of most of areas in the United States and elsewhere into urban cities and
00:20:29.980 letting nature just consume cities and towns. It's crazy. But at least they say, well, that would actually
00:20:36.380 do what we want, as opposed to the people who say, well, we've been built windmills and solar panels,
00:20:41.500 we'll save the planet from global warming, which there's literally no chance that's going to happen
00:20:46.860 because even if CO2 emissions are the primary driver, China, India, countries like that are going
00:20:52.860 to dramatically, dramatically increase their CO2 emissions over the next half century. And so it
00:20:58.620 doesn't really even matter what we do unless they go along with it.
00:21:12.940 I think you're absolutely right. It's about growing the size of the government. Maybe for some people,
00:21:17.580 they do have the nefarious motivation of depopulation. A smaller population is easier to
00:21:23.740 control. A poor population is easier to control. A population that is reliant on the energy that is
00:21:31.820 controlled by the government, of course, is more easy to dictate. You probably saw this
00:21:37.900 story last week or a couple of weeks ago that a Colorado utility company locked the thermostats of
00:21:43.820 22,000 people in the state of Colorado. Think about how much worse that is going to be
00:21:50.700 like when we are relying on these green energy sources, so-called, that are completely controlled
00:21:58.300 by the government. I mean, this is a way that millions of people will die. Far more people die
00:22:04.460 every year because of the cold than they do because of the heat, despite all the clamoring on global
00:22:10.860 warming. So my question is, I mean, obviously, and this is something that Thomas Sowell said a long
00:22:16.860 time ago is that the left is never judged by the consequences or the conclusions of their policies,
00:22:21.900 only ever their intentions. And that seems to be true that if you, whether it's COVID or green energy,
00:22:28.780 like if you intend to save the world, then it doesn't matter how draconian or how terrible your
00:22:33.500 policies are, how many people you kill, at least Mao had the right idea to begin with. At least he,
00:22:40.060 you know, was a communist. And so I guess it's just wishful thinking to think that,
00:22:45.900 OK, if this continues to go really badly, if thousands of people do die in Europe because
00:22:50.220 of this energy crisis, they're going to wake up and they're going to do an about-face and they're
00:22:54.380 going to realize that we can't just rely on these sources of energy. I mean, what do you think the
00:22:59.260 likelihood is of that? Or at least that the people get so incensed and so worked up that they realize,
00:23:06.940 the people in charge realize, OK, this is not going well for us. We should probably change course.
00:23:13.180 Yeah. I mean, I go back and forth on this one because I think it all depends entirely on how
00:23:19.980 well people in the media who are not in favor of these policies are able to convey this message to
00:23:26.460 regular people so that they understand what's really going on. Because the sort of advantage that the
00:23:31.820 other side has is that if they control the messaging and they can convince people that the only two
00:23:37.980 options you have is either we make energy a lot more expensive, yes, and maybe it's more unreliable.
00:23:43.660 And yes, we have all these blackouts and that's all bad and we're going to try to fix it. And don't
00:23:47.740 worry, just we'll put the right people in charge and we'll sort it all out. Or we could all die from
00:23:53.900 climate change. Those are your choices. Then literally any alternative to everything dying,
00:24:00.140 which is what an existential threat means. And that's the language that you hear from Joe Biden
00:24:04.780 and Kamala Harris and all these people. Right. Yeah. It's an existential threat. Well,
00:24:09.500 if everyone's going to die and that's one option, then any other option is better. And so if that
00:24:16.860 becomes the narrative, right, then it almost doesn't matter how many people are suffering. We've got to
00:24:21.980 save the planet and that or we're all dead. So you have to get the message out to people that that is
00:24:29.580 not what's going on. And that even if you believe that it, the policies that they're putting into
00:24:34.780 place are not going to stop that catastrophe from happening anyway. And of course, they don't even
00:24:40.700 believe it because they're still building their mansions by the beach and they're still flying
00:24:44.620 around in private jets and they're still going to their elaborate conferences in Davos held by the
00:24:49.340 World Economic Forum. All of these things would not happen if everyone truly believed
00:24:54.540 that there was this asteroid sized problem headed for Earth and that we were all going to die from
00:24:59.820 it. No one would do that unless they were evil. Right. So I don't believe these people actually
00:25:06.060 think that this crisis is as big of a deal as they say it is. I think they believe that they have to
00:25:10.700 make it that big of a deal in order for people to go along with it. They might think that climate change
00:25:15.260 is going to cause problems. But do they think that it's going to wipe out humanity,
00:25:18.700 wipe out, have a mass extinction of the world? No, I don't believe that at all. And I think their actions
00:25:23.900 show that very clearly. And by the way, would they really care if it did? Would they? I mean,
00:25:29.100 if it was, if climate change was really an existential threat to at least millions or billions of
00:25:34.300 people, why would they care? Like, have they shown themselves to be altruistic people that, you know,
00:25:40.460 really care about the well-being and the longevity of others? No, they have pushed all kinds of
00:25:45.420 anti-natalist measures over the years in order to try to shrink the size of the population.
00:25:52.380 I want to know how what's going on in Sweden in particular and in other parts of Europe have to
00:25:59.180 do with all of this, if anything at all. So this is according to the BBC, why Dutch farmers are
00:26:04.300 protesting over emissions cuts. Dutch farmers have been protesting due to pressure from the government
00:26:09.500 to make radical changes to cut emissions. The Dutch government proposes that to cut nitrogen
00:26:13.900 emissions an estimated 11,200 farms will have to close and another 17,600 farmers will have to
00:26:21.100 significantly reduce their livestock. And apparently farms here are also under pressure,
00:26:28.780 under the same kind of premise. I don't know if we're seeing massive shutdowns and this big of
00:26:34.060 cut to emissions here in the United States, but it seems like farming worldwide seems to be under
00:26:39.820 significant pressure from the green agenda regime. So what's your take on that? And what in the world
00:26:48.460 is going to be the consequence of something like that? Right. Well, again, playing into this whole
00:26:53.900 notion that climate change is going to destroy everything and that we're all going to die from it.
00:26:59.660 Um, there is part of part of the, uh, sort of the, the, the green agenda movement is this anti methane
00:27:07.900 emissions, uh, crusade that's been going on both in the United States and in Europe, where they say that,
00:27:14.380 uh, methane emissions are significantly more harmful than, um, carbon dioxide emissions.
00:27:20.220 So as a greenhouse gas, it's more potent. So there may not be as much of it, but it has a greater effect
00:27:25.500 on global warming. This is what a lot of people believe who are part of this movement.
00:27:29.660 And cows produce that.
00:27:31.820 Right. And cows and other agriculture and just sort of the whole agricultural system produces methane
00:27:38.140 emissions. And so one of the things that, uh, governments around the world, especially in
00:27:42.780 Scandinavia and other places, uh, in Holland, what they've been trying to do is limit methane
00:27:48.700 emissions. And one of the best ways to do that is to crack down on farming. And of course, all of that
00:27:54.700 has is sort of closely tied together. The sort of far left wing environmentalists are closely tied
00:27:59.740 together with the animal rights groups. Some of the more extreme ones, which really don't want cows
00:28:05.500 to be utilized in these ways. Anyway, we don't, they don't think we should be eating them, but they
00:28:09.740 want us to be called become vegan and stop drinking cow milk, et cetera. And so it's all kind of tied
00:28:14.460 together into this one, uh, alliance of people who are saying, why do we even have cows on farms?
00:28:20.300 Let's, let's just get rid of all of that and let's just, just get eliminate cows from the
00:28:25.660 equation. And then we can dramatically reduce methane emissions. And if we dramatically reduce
00:28:29.580 methane emissions, well, then we can stop global warming. This again is the idea. Now this is,
00:28:35.260 of course is totally ridiculous, especially in these small countries, which really are
00:28:40.300 inconsequential when it comes to, uh, greenhouse gas emissions and their impact on climate change
00:28:46.060 and everything else. Um, it really doesn't matter what a country like in Scandinavia does and Holland,
00:28:51.900 these places are way too small for it to make any difference, but these countries have very rich
00:28:57.340 traditions of farming and agriculture has been going on for many millennia, right? Exactly. And so what
00:29:04.060 they're doing is destroying these farms, just destroying them outright. And there's now been protests that
00:29:10.380 have been breaking out, um, from farmers and people who are in these rural communities, um, that a lot of backlash
00:29:17.420 from this against their governments. But unfortunately, because most of the voting
00:29:21.660 populations in these countries are in urban centers that know absolutely nothing about farming and are
00:29:28.060 deeply concerned about climate change, they don't really care. They're going to destroy these people's
00:29:32.300 livelihoods and it's not going to matter. Well, in the United States, we have a movement of people that
00:29:37.260 want to do very similar things here. And, um, last it went when they had Glasgow and they had the, uh,
00:29:43.340 cop 26, a big gigantic international climate conference and in Scotland that occurred in, uh, last year,
00:29:49.900 about a year ago. Um, a little less than that, actually, they, uh, one of the big things that came out of
00:29:54.780 that was all of these European countries and the United States said, we're going to reduce our methane emissions.
00:30:00.380 And we're going to do it by X, Y, Z percent over a certain number of years. I don't have the numbers in
00:30:05.500 front of me, but it was a really dramatic cut in methane emissions. Well, the primary way you're
00:30:10.220 likely to do that is through agriculture. There are other things you can do, but agriculture would
00:30:14.780 be a big part of that. And so right around that time, and actually just before that, you started
00:30:19.580 seeing people in the democratic party, establishment politicians, um, people who are running for
00:30:24.940 presidents in previous elections, start to talk about how we need to do something about methane
00:30:29.900 emissions and all, maybe we shouldn't be eating as much meat as we're eating now. And I think we should
00:30:34.700 revise the food pyramid that officially gets put out as what Americans should be consuming so that
00:30:39.980 they consume less meat as if people are paying attention with bated breath of what the food
00:30:45.900 pyramid says, you know, but that's what, that's what these politicians wanted to do. So you can
00:30:50.620 start to see it shift here in the United States. Now we're not Europe and people here really like to eat
00:30:56.300 meat and drink milk. And so I have a hard time believing this is going to catch on here in the short term,
00:31:03.420 but over the long term, I, I would be shocked if it doesn't become a part of the democratic party's
00:31:09.340 platform within the next 10 years to reduce meat consumption in some way, or have a meat tax or
00:31:15.500 something like that in order to put pressure on agriculture so that there isn't as much methane
00:31:21.580 emissions again, all part of this green agenda, all part of reducing climate change.
00:31:25.580 Yeah. Well, I mean, there is basically a meat tax right now and that it is so expensive. It's gotten a
00:31:30.780 lot more expensive because of some of the things that you're talking about and obviously imported
00:31:35.100 meat because it is now more rare. The supply has gone down while the demand has stayed the same. And
00:31:40.540 so the price has gone up. And so, of course, that's not an actual tax imposed by the government,
00:31:47.020 but it is already becoming costlier. And it does seem like that is at least right now,
00:31:51.820 for now, it's on like, I would say it's on the on ramp on the Democrat agenda, because you hear
00:31:56.940 people like AOC, but I would say even more, I don't know, middle of the road Democrats kind
00:32:01.740 of talking about this, how we need to reduce our meat consumption at least a little bit.
00:32:07.820 And then, of course, you've got the push, maybe not from mainstream Democrats, but from the World
00:32:12.540 Economic Forum, from the media towards eating bugs, how bugs are a great source of protein. So I guess
00:32:19.740 in their mind, if they're like, okay, we shut down all of this agriculture that's producing this
00:32:25.660 methane, people still have to eat, okay, bugs are a great source of protein. And I guess they
00:32:32.060 produce less methane to actually cook. And they say, oh, well, there are lots of people in the
00:32:36.860 world who eat bugs, which is true. I don't think it's morally wrong to eat bugs. I don't want to be
00:32:41.900 forced to eat bugs, though. I mean, how quickly do you think that we're going in that to where I mean,
00:32:47.420 because you're already starting to see some places, I mean, maybe it's rare, but like put crickets and
00:32:53.260 different kinds of insects into their meat. Or as a side, my friends went to Mexico,
00:33:02.140 and with their guacamole, crickets, crickets. So how quickly do you think we're going in that
00:33:08.540 direction? Yeah, it's funny. At the Heartland Institute where I work, we recently had, this
00:33:15.340 was a recent topic of conversation where we said, you know, we keep hearing this, and I've seen some
00:33:19.500 headlines. But you know, are there really a lot of people pushing for, you know, eating bugs? Is
00:33:25.660 that really a thing? And so we actually spent like an entire day just researching this one question.
00:33:31.740 And what we found is, yeah, it's actually shocking how many different environmental groups and how in
00:33:37.900 the World Economic Forum has like a dozen articles advocating for this. There's no doubt about it
00:33:43.420 whatsoever. There is a movement on the left that is suggesting and some of the I mean,
00:33:48.940 the World Economic Forum is not socialist there, they are, they're definitely not part of the AOC
00:33:53.980 wing of the part of the sort of what you would think of as the Democratic Party. It's it's an
00:33:58.060 international group. So it's not Democratic Party. But they're more establishment than anything else.
00:34:02.940 They're more of a Joe Biden type group or Hillary Clinton group. And they're advocating for this,
00:34:08.140 too. There's no doubt about it. Again, once you start going down the road of CO2 emissions and
00:34:14.860 methane emissions and just greenhouse gases in general are going to kill everybody and you and
00:34:20.540 you start going moving in that direction and you convince millions and millions of people,
00:34:25.100 tens of millions of people around the world, well-meaning people that this is a fact, this is true,
00:34:29.260 that that's the science and that anyone disagrees with it as a science denier, then you almost have to
00:34:34.540 keep going logically through all of these insane things like let's rewild cities and towns to reduce
00:34:42.060 CO2 emissions. Let's eat bugs to reduce CO2 emissions and methane emissions. Let's you have
00:34:47.500 to keep getting more and more extreme. Let's let's get rid of cars in certain places if we can and make
00:34:53.100 it let's electrify the entire grid, even though we have no way of doing that. It doesn't even make any
00:34:58.140 sense with the technology we have right now. It just doesn't matter. Again, if the choice is,
00:35:03.820 we're all going to die or you eat bugs, you everyone would choose to eat bugs. See,
00:35:09.740 so that's that's the genius of this either or situation that they've set up. It's just a matter
00:35:15.900 of whether you believe that's a real choice that you have to make or you reject the choice entirely.
00:35:21.500 Right. And obviously, people like us reject that that's even the situation fallacy. It's a false
00:35:27.500 choice. Yes. Yeah. Right. And I mean, they do that with a lot of things, actually, when you think
00:35:32.700 about COVID. So everyone has to lock down, we have to force you to get this shot or else everyone is
00:35:37.980 going to die when that really what that was a false dilemma that really those were not the two options
00:35:44.060 on the table. But you convinced a lot of people that way. And I think that's what caused our
00:35:48.620 divisions, because the people who believed in that false dilemma, either it's everyone's going to die,
00:35:53.260 or we have to be forced into our homes and forced to take five vaccines. So everyone that didn't do
00:36:00.140 the staying at home and taking the five vaccines as making the other choice, as wanting everyone to
00:36:05.900 die. And all we were trying to say the whole time was that's not really the decision that's on the
00:36:11.020 table. It's the same thing when it comes to the green agenda. And the ironic thing is that choosing
00:36:16.780 their choice actually will cause more people to die than the alternative.
00:36:23.420 Yeah. Yeah. What people need to understand is that in much of the world, I mean, we are incredibly
00:36:29.500 blessed to live in the United States of America, incredibly blessed. We have access to reliable
00:36:35.820 energy almost all the time. In most parts of the world, they don't have that. In fact, there are
00:36:43.340 there are literally billions of people in the world who don't have access to reliable energy.
00:36:48.860 They don't have access to it. There are billions. There are hundreds of millions, if not billions
00:36:54.380 of people who are still cooking their food over open fires, OK, because they don't have access to
00:36:59.900 electricity. So I would argue that there are already thousands of people, tens of thousands,
00:37:04.700 maybe even millions of people who have died as a result of these policies, because instead of trying
00:37:10.060 to develop those parts of the world with the most reliable, most affordable forms of energy,
00:37:15.660 like natural gas and coal and other things, they have people at the World Economic Forum,
00:37:21.180 the Biden administration, the Obama administration before that, and others have done everything they
00:37:25.820 can to try to discourage these people, other countries around the world, to coerce them even,
00:37:31.660 in some cases, to hold money over their heads if they don't do what they say, to prevent them from
00:37:37.420 building out the most affordable kinds of energy that they possibly can. And so there are hundreds
00:37:43.260 of millions of people, I would argue, at the very least tens of millions of people who have been in
00:37:48.140 extreme danger as a result of these policies. If they had just been pursuing the most affordable kind of
00:37:54.780 energy for the last two decades, then more people would be alive today than there are right now. And that
00:38:01.900 is purely the result of the fact that reliable energy equals a higher life expectancy, a better
00:38:09.180 quality of life for people, healthier populations. And this isn't even a question. So what is the most
00:38:14.300 affordable kind of energy? That should be the question that these people are concerned with. And
00:38:18.220 instead, you have all of these Western powers, you talk about colonialism and things like that,
00:38:23.180 the left loves to talk about that. You have all these Western powers coming in and saying, well,
00:38:26.940 if you want money from international organizations like the IMF and you want to work with the United
00:38:31.340 Nations, you want to work with the World Economic Forum and you want to work with the American
00:38:34.540 government, well, then you need to pursue green energy. You shouldn't be pursuing these other kinds
00:38:39.580 of bad energy. So it's there. I think people already are dying as a result of this. I really do.
00:38:54.940 The left, I mean, as much as they, a lot of the wokest left anyway, you know, they were saying,
00:39:03.020 oh, you know, they shouldn't, we shouldn't mourn the Queen's death because she is this
00:39:07.740 evil imperialist. And there's so much irony in that because leftists, especially in the United States,
00:39:13.580 I would say though, probably globally, places like the UN and the WEF, they are imperialists in the sense
00:39:19.980 that they will absolutely use every tool at their disposal to bend poor countries to their will.
00:39:28.060 I mean, there was this whole piece and this has been actually ongoing for, I don't know,
00:39:32.780 a year or more, how CNN has highlighted these African countries like Ghana and like Kenya that
00:39:39.420 are not willing to codify same sex marriage, so-called. And they're just up in arms about this.
00:39:45.420 They are so disturbed by this. And I guarantee you, there have been moves. Well, I know that
00:39:51.180 there have been moves by the American government to try to pressure poor countries to conform to the
00:39:59.420 LGBTQ or the left wing social agenda in a variety of ways. And now you're saying they are also doing it
00:40:07.100 when it comes to green energy, which is a form of extortion. I mean, that's like the worst kind of
00:40:12.540 manipulative imperialism that you can think of. And leftists are not just when it comes to other
00:40:18.460 countries, but also here in the United States. I mean, they are not willing to allow any institution
00:40:23.100 to be neutral or Christian or right wing. I mean, they are going to invade and conquer just like the
00:40:30.460 very people have throughout history that they say that we cannot celebrate. So as they are saying we
00:40:36.300 can't celebrate Columbus Day, they are conquering institutions both here and abroad with their
00:40:41.740 ideology. Yeah. And I would argue that they are more effective at it in many ways than many of the
00:40:47.980 colonial powers that existed in the past. Because when you can print all the money you want and give
00:40:54.460 it to whomever you want, whenever you want, and you can hold that over their heads, it's really it's a
00:41:00.780 lot easier to convince people to do what you want or coerce people to do what you want than it is to
00:41:05.820 send an army and invade a population and then establish rule of law and establish all these
00:41:12.460 institutions and have uprisings and rebellions and kill people. And you have to go through this
00:41:17.260 process over and over and over again. It would be so much easier if you could just print all the
00:41:21.260 money you want, give it to them and say, do what we tell you and we'll give you more. And they say,
00:41:25.900 okay, that sounds pretty good to me, especially the really corrupt governments. And that's exactly
00:41:32.140 what's been going on all over the world. And they are imposing their will. In fact, that is one of
00:41:38.140 the main complaints that you'll see from Russia and from Vladimir Putin and from other intellectual
00:41:44.220 leaders in Russia. When we had a prior conversation about the Great Reset and its impact on what's going
00:41:50.700 on with Ukraine and the war with Russia and Ukraine, that was one of the things that I found in my
00:41:54.700 research was throughout that. It was Russia complaining that there is this movement,
00:42:01.100 the Great Reset movement, that is imposing its will all over the world ideologically,
00:42:08.220 saying you have to adopt our way of doing things or else we're not going to finance you. We're not
00:42:13.180 going to give you money. You're not going to be able to survive.
00:42:15.020 That's what ESG is, right? That's basically what ESG is, right?
00:42:18.060 That's right. Yep, that's exactly right.
00:42:21.340 Which is why, so it's all a pretext for authoritarianism. And no matter what you think,
00:42:27.580 whether you think that there are some people who are truly genuine and sincere and like their desire
00:42:33.020 to save the world, and they are convinced that these climate policies are the way to do that,
00:42:37.260 I am sure that those people exist even in power. But then, of course, for a lot of people,
00:42:43.420 it really is just about control, this radical transformation of society, which is only possible
00:42:50.380 from the top down, which is exactly why you say, by the way, because I know you probably get some
00:42:54.620 pushback on this and I do too when I have you on. That's why this is not true Marxism. It's not true
00:43:01.340 communism because at least what Marx wanted was not a top down system in which these like elitist
00:43:10.220 oligarchs are controlling everyone else. That's how socialism typically ends up. That's what communism
00:43:15.660 typically ends as. But Das Kapital was not about what the WEF is doing now, which is a top down approach.
00:43:27.020 That's what they're trying to accomplish. And one of the things that I go ahead, go ahead,
00:43:31.500 and then I'll kind of go ahead. I think that's a that's a brilliant point. And I think that's it.
00:43:36.620 That is exactly right. People need to understand that one of the fundamental problems with the right
00:43:42.620 with people, especially on the right, the limited government advocates, their understanding of the
00:43:46.940 Great Reset and of ESG and of all these things going on is that it's a form of socialism.
00:43:51.340 It is absolutely not socialism. And the easy test that you can apply to really any question related to
00:43:57.260 this to know or this or any other topic related to public policy to know whether it's a socialistic
00:44:03.340 policy or not, is is the goal of it to spread out property ownership, to collectivize property
00:44:11.020 ownership and management? Or is the goal something else? And in the case of what's going on with the
00:44:16.060 Great Reset with the World Economic Forum and with with the Biden administration, all these things,
00:44:20.300 the goal is not to spread out property ownership. The goal is actually to consolidate property ownership
00:44:25.500 in the hands of a relatively small group of people who believe all the same things that the
00:44:31.340 World Economic Forum believes. That's the goal. It's to centralize power and wealth. And so yes,
00:44:37.980 socialism and communism often ends up that way. But ideologically, the point is not to have
00:44:43.500 consolidation of ownership of anything. That's what they're trying to get rid of. They're extremists on
00:44:48.940 the other end of the spectrum. And so what these people want to do is not social, socialism. What they
00:44:54.220 want is it's a form of authoritarianism. It's tyranny. It's the centralization of control and
00:45:00.860 centralization of power and control and wealth. And really, that's something that has always existed
00:45:07.180 throughout human history. This is really no different than, you know, kings and queens a thousand years
00:45:12.140 ago or emperors and the Roman Empire a thousand years before that. Really, it's never changed. There's
00:45:18.140 always been a group of people in society that want to control everything else and want more and more
00:45:23.740 power and wealth and influence over the rest of the world. And this is just part of that longstanding
00:45:29.900 tradition. So could you say, though, because there was that infamous article that was published by WF
00:45:36.380 a few years ago, you know, in 2030, you'll own nothing and be happy. And so people see that and they think,
00:45:44.540 okay, well, they are in some ways confiscating private property or at least making it as difficult
00:45:50.460 as possible for anyone except for these major corporations like BlackRock to, for example,
00:45:56.140 own a home. And they're making it really hard for, you know, the nuclear family to just live on one
00:46:03.260 stable income. And so you all become these perpetual renters. Could you say that that mirrors a form of
00:46:11.900 Marxism that, yes, they don't want that for them at the top, but they want that kind of for everyone
00:46:17.740 else? They want the to seize private property or is it more like feudalism? Yeah, it's more in line
00:46:26.280 with feudalism. Yeah, it's it's not that they want to seize private property. What they want to do is
00:46:32.700 is and really that article was more of a prediction than it was anything else. And the prediction is
00:46:38.180 based. Yeah, more exactly. And the reason it was more, I mean, the prediction is based on the
00:46:43.860 policies that they're seeing and are putting into place. Right. But the reason that they were so
00:46:48.200 convinced that this is happening is, well, first of all, it is happening. We can see that the
00:46:52.540 consolidation of property ownership is occurring, but it's not that they want the government to seize
00:46:57.240 property ownership. It's that they they believe that large corporations, that big banks, financial
00:47:03.200 institutions, et cetera, are amassing more and more property and that that is that is the inevitable
00:47:09.160 result of the part. And they like that this is happening. They think this is a good for society,
00:47:13.660 but it's not about seizing people's property. It's about basically buying it from them. It's about
00:47:19.380 buying more and more property and land and developments and things like that, and then not
00:47:25.980 distributing it to others, which is what socialism and communism is. It's confiscating property from the
00:47:31.620 from some and giving it to everyone, distributing it equally. That's the idea. That's not what's
00:47:36.620 happening here. They want to they want to get access to the property. And then once they have
00:47:41.840 control over it, they don't want to distribute it. They want to keep it so that they can manage it and
00:47:46.440 control the property and the people living in the property and all for the betterment of society.
00:47:52.420 And so that's and of course, their pocketbooks. And that's that's what's really going on here.
00:47:57.100 So, again, the primary difference between these two things are are we spreading out property
00:48:02.980 ownership to everyone equally? That's socialism and communism. That's Marxism. That's what that's
00:48:07.900 that's what the end goal is for that total equal, completely equal property ownership according to
00:48:13.000 people's needs. Or are we trying to consolidate property ownership in the hands of a relatively small
00:48:18.820 group of people? That's what the Great Reset is all about. And it's not through violence.
00:48:23.580 It's just purely through by its money. It's the power of money. And they're able to do that
00:48:29.180 because all of these governments are printing trillions and trillions of dollars. And they're
00:48:33.740 giving it to these financial institutions and corporations who are then able to use that to
00:48:39.180 consolidate their wealth and power, which is why the stock market has continued to go up over time,
00:48:43.840 even as we've had a global pandemic. It's why BlackRock and people like that now have 10 trillion
00:48:49.260 dollars under assets under management when you could go back five, 10 years ago and they had
00:48:54.300 like a trillion dollars. It's because of all the money printing that's going on. They're using that
00:48:59.660 power economically to control and manipulate society and to consolidate wealth and power by buying things,
00:49:07.180 basically.
00:49:18.860 So as those in power are grabbing even more power through the energy crisis, we are also seeing,
00:49:27.740 I think, more outright examples of authoritarianism, usually by the very people that say that they are
00:49:36.060 very pro-democracy. Obviously, we saw that in Canada with Trudeau seizing the bank accounts of
00:49:42.540 people who are protesting against them. I mean, Canada has been a terribly tyrannical place for
00:49:48.860 the unvaccinated and really just Canadians in general under the pretense of helping, you know,
00:49:54.380 saving everyone from COVID. But we're also seeing a very troubling crackdown on speech, especially in
00:50:00.940 Europe. I've seen several videos circulating online. There was one in a guy, a citizen journalist in
00:50:07.660 South Wales. There was another one, I believe, in Britain. The Washington Post reported on a Twitter
00:50:14.540 user in Germany who insulted a German politician. In all of these cases, they either got a phone call
00:50:21.820 from the police or in the case of this person who insulted a German politician. The police came to
00:50:27.420 his house and raided his house. In Hungary, critics silenced in social media arrests as the EU debates
00:50:34.620 Orban's powers. So this is something that is going on. People are being punished for free speech,
00:50:43.980 for their social media posts, not because they're threatening violence, but because they are offensive,
00:50:48.860 because they are going, you know, outside of what the mainstream progressive, you know, regime says
00:50:54.940 that we are allowed to say. So are, I mean, are these things linked? Why are we seeing this?
00:51:02.860 Yeah, well, I mean, I think that really from the beginning of the socialist progressive movements
00:51:10.140 in the 1800s or really 1700s, 1800s into the early 1900s, you've always, there's always been a strain of
00:51:17.260 this within those movements, wanting to silence dissenters in order to enhance their power and
00:51:23.580 ideas. This is, this is something that has always existed on the left. It's becoming easier and easier
00:51:28.460 to do that today because of technology. Technology is, is making authoritarianism really simple. You
00:51:34.940 don't actually have to, in the olden days, you had to have spies everywhere. You had to have informants,
00:51:40.060 you had to have people ratting out their neighbors. Now, all you need to do is have a Twitter account,
00:51:45.740 to just follow people on Twitter and see what they have to say. And in Europe, especially,
00:51:51.820 in many countries throughout the world, they don't have the same kind of free speech rights that we
00:51:55.980 have in the United States. They have some free speech rights, but there are limitations to them,
00:52:00.700 even in the United Kingdom, that we have enjoyed from the very beginning of the founding of this
00:52:06.060 country, and we take for granted. In those places, governments can crack down. There are rules
00:52:12.140 about spreading misinformation. There are fines that can be imposed on social media companies that
00:52:17.260 allow misinformation to be spread. There are all kinds of rules about saying incorrect things. Of
00:52:22.940 course, who gets to decide what's incorrect and what's misinformation, right? About politicians and
00:52:27.820 other things, there are celebrities. And celebrities can actually sue in a lot of these places, including
00:52:33.180 politicians for defamation and libel and that sort of thing, which you can't do in the United States.
00:52:38.940 So it's a totally different world in terms of speech in those countries from a government
00:52:42.860 perspective. In America, what they're trying to do is elites are trying to do this same sort of thing,
00:52:49.340 but because they can't do it through government, because we have the First Amendment getting in
00:52:53.740 the way of all of that, what they're trying to do is use ESG and big corporations and social media
00:52:59.100 companies to effectively do the same thing, except they use corporations to do the dirty work for
00:53:05.820 them. And so you saw the coordination going on when we talked about, you mentioned COVID earlier,
00:53:11.180 with the COVID vaccines and sort of quote unquote misinformation about COVID vaccines.
00:53:15.980 There was close coordination between the Biden administration and corporations working hand in
00:53:20.300 hand to silence people that they don't agree with. We also heard from Mark Zuckerberg recently,
00:53:25.180 I think he was on the Joe Rogan podcast, and he acknowledged that the FBI had basically said,
00:53:31.500 hey, don't allow misinformation to come out right before the election in reference to the Hunter
00:53:36.540 Biden story that had broke from the New York Post and was being shared by all sorts of media outlets.
00:53:42.460 And so Facebook silenced people and stopped them from spreading that post. Twitter silenced people
00:53:47.180 and didn't allow people to spread that post. That was an important news story published by a,
00:53:52.780 one of the oldest media institutions, continuously operating media institutions in America.
00:53:58.940 And it turns out that everyone now thinks that was probably 100% accurate. And now,
00:54:05.820 and right before an election, people weren't allowed to share it with each other.
00:54:09.260 All of this is tied in with ESG social credit scores, with the consolidation of wealth and power,
00:54:14.460 that's a part of the Great Reset. ESG actually encourages social media companies. ESG credit scores
00:54:21.740 encourage social media companies to eliminate misinformation from their platforms and dangerous
00:54:28.140 information from their platforms and other things like that. In fact, there is this incredible ESG
00:54:34.140 report, and I can't remember which agency put it out, but it's an ESG report from a financial institution
00:54:41.020 given to Facebook. And it actually gives Facebook a relatively low ESG score. And in the report,
00:54:48.300 it references this huge other report that talks about how Facebook hasn't done enough to silence
00:54:56.300 free speech on their platforms and to stop misinformation. And they specifically referenced
00:55:02.220 Donald Trump being allowed to continue to speak on Facebook. This was prior to the whole January 6th
00:55:07.580 thing. And then within like six months or a year of that happening, Facebook and Twitter and everyone
00:55:14.220 banned a president of the United States from speaking on their platforms. So it shows you the power of
00:55:20.300 what ESG is and the consolidation of wealth and power and coordination with all of these groups
00:55:27.020 working together. And obviously it's not neutral because they're not worried about actual terrorists
00:55:34.700 being on Twitter or Facebook. They're not worried about the child sex abuse material that unfortunately is
00:55:41.180 rampant on these platforms. Those things don't lower the ESG score apparently, but allowing people to
00:55:46.540 have different opinions about the vaccine or about the election or about politics, that is the real
00:55:52.380 danger. And if you don't censor that, I guess, as a corporation, then your ESG score goes down.
00:56:01.340 And so it's not neutral. There is an ideology, an agenda behind it.
00:56:05.340 Yeah, without a doubt. I remember several years ago, one of the first big before I was doing shows
00:56:13.420 like this with popular Blaze TV hosts, I was trying to promote this report that I had done. Nobody had
00:56:20.220 done anything on this at the time. It was a study that talked about rape videos, videos of women being
00:56:27.740 raped that were widely it's widely available on on Google and these other search engines. The the it's not
00:56:34.940 just that women are being raped in these videos, pornographic videos, but it's also that it literally is
00:56:40.140 describing them. It's advertising them as women being raped or something like that. And I did everything I
00:56:47.900 possibly could, everything I could. It went everywhere. I had articles published on Fox News. I did everything I could to
00:56:53.500 get people to stop this. And Google and Microsoft and all of these companies that I went to and asked
00:56:59.660 them about this and interviewed even some of them. They did nothing. They did nothing about it. Nothing.
00:57:06.220 But sharing a Hunter Biden story, talking about something that is completely true or very likely to
00:57:11.180 be true. Yeah. Yep. They won't touch it. They won't touch it. Why is it because they it's the same thing with
00:57:17.900 with global warming, with a bunch of other things. They say that they believe in these causes. They say they really
00:57:23.980 care about the little guy, but then they everything they do is the opposite of that. Yeah. The biggest hypocritical
00:57:30.780 aspect of the Great Reset movement is you mentioned China earlier. All of these people are doing business with China
00:57:36.940 and putting global warming aside. China's a human rights violator. So on the one hand, you have companies saying, wow,
00:57:44.380 you know, we got to make sure we have ESG in place so that we have the right ratio of one racial group
00:57:49.580 to another in our employee demographics. So, for example, we have the right whatever that means ratio
00:57:54.940 of Asian to Hispanic workers. If we have too many Asians flown around, that's bad for our ESG score.
00:58:00.300 That's a real thing. But then they'll do business with China where they're literally throwing people in
00:58:06.380 internment camps and they're killing people for simple drug possession and stuff like that and and
00:58:13.100 forcing people to have two kids or one kid instead of three or four that they might want,
00:58:18.700 having forced abortions and all kinds of really horrible things. The same people that say that
00:58:23.740 they have to have this ESG social credit system to save the planet and to and to make America more
00:58:28.860 equitable and to stop police brutality and to stop, you know, election fraud and all these things that
00:58:35.020 they claim are the same people doing business with some of the biggest human rights violators on the
00:58:39.820 planet today. They don't believe in any of this stuff, really. It's all about power grabbing.
00:58:44.700 And just to close this out, the Biden administration is really the perfect vessel for all of this. And
00:58:53.260 we look at the Biden administration and the Democrat Party and we say, wow, they failed so much.
00:58:58.060 Their policies have been so disastrous. They cause chaos and destruction and death wherever they go.
00:59:04.060 And yet they don't seem to be. The Biden administration really doesn't seem to be worried
00:59:09.500 about that at all because he is not really beholden to the American people. He is beholden
00:59:15.100 to a lot of the powerful elites and the organizations and the institutions that we're talking about that
00:59:20.940 want that radical transformation of society. They decided that the vessel for that was going to be good
00:59:26.380 little, moderate, empathetic Joe. And, you know, Joe doesn't seem to be worried about
00:59:34.460 worried about not winning elections at all, which is a little bit frightening when you think about it.
00:59:39.500 And when you think about, as we talked about the crackdown on speech, what his DOJ is doing right now
00:59:44.940 to Biden's political opponents that simply voiced opinions about the last election. And of course,
00:59:53.100 what this DOJ threatened to do towards parents that showed up at school board meetings concerned
00:59:58.460 that their child, for example, was reading pornography in school. So just just a reminder,
01:00:05.580 everyone, that this administration is advancing all of the things that we are talking about today, unfortunately.
01:00:15.020 Yeah, there's no doubt about it. It's well documented that that's what's going on.
01:00:20.460 And all you have to do is actually look. If you look into any of the issues that we've talked
01:00:25.660 about today or a whole bunch of other things, you'll see that the Biden administration is not
01:00:29.820 only taking is not only trying to advance the ball in that direction, they are doing it in radical,
01:00:35.900 radical ways that we've never seen before. I mean, this is truly one of this is probably the
01:00:40.780 most radical administration we've ever had. I mean, I think Barack Obama was a very radical guy,
01:00:46.380 but I think he was limited in what he could do because of the circumstances of his time.
01:00:51.020 I think Joe Biden has a lot more leeway to do almost anything he wants. And he is doing that.
01:00:56.940 And really, it's not so much him as it probably is his handlers and the other people in the
01:01:01.740 administration, most of whom came from the Obama era anyway. It's a lot of the same people.
01:01:06.780 Most of those people are also related to big financial institutions and used to work at BlackRock and
01:01:12.220 places like that. They're all tied in together. It's one big group working together in order to
01:01:16.940 accomplish this goal. But Biden is the perfect vessel for it because he's so old and he and
01:01:23.580 mentally, I'm not sure how there he really is. And so he and he has this moderate sort of aura
01:01:30.860 about him that he's built up over all these years, even though he's really not a moderate.
01:01:34.700 And so he is able to put these radical ideas into place. And that is exactly what has been going on.
01:01:40.140 And the facts show that very, very clearly. Yep. And as we've talked about before, it really is
01:01:45.580 all connected, whether it's gender ideology or the racial ideology that is causing division or the
01:01:53.100 breakdown of the nuclear family, the difficulty and being able to buy property and to be self-reliant to
01:02:00.460 the energy crisis that in large part is the result of deliberate choices of the people in charge.
01:02:07.900 It all comes together to make a people confused and chaotic and ultimately dependent. And that's
01:02:16.540 what they're looking for is a dependent populace in order to gain as much power as possible to achieve
01:02:22.860 this radical transformation of society with them at the top. As always, Justin,
01:02:28.620 thank you so much for breaking it all down for us today. Where can people find you?
01:02:31.900 At Justin T. Haskins on Facebook, Twitter, Parler, Getter, all of the social media platforms. And of
01:02:39.580 course, they can go to stoppingsocialism.com and they can go to the heartland.org. That's the official
01:02:44.620 website of the Heartland Institute. Awesome. Thank you so much, Justin.
01:02:48.540 Thanks so much, Allie. Take care.
01:02:52.540 All right. Hope you enjoyed that conversation. I know you did. Justin is awesome. No one breaks it down
01:02:57.900 like him. And just remember, I know every time we talk about the Great Reset and
01:03:03.180 the global catastrophe that is currently happening, God is completely and totally in control. He is
01:03:10.220 sovereign over all of it. There is no earthly power that is greater than him. And Job 42 says that
01:03:17.260 nothing can thwart his sovereign will. And in the end, every knee will bow, every tongue will confess
01:03:22.620 that Jesus Christ is Lord. If you want to know what to do, simply do the next right thing in faith
01:03:27.660 with excellence and for the glory of God. Do everything that you can to infuse light and truth
01:03:33.100 and goodness and righteousness into every sphere in which God has providentially placed you. I don't
01:03:39.180 know what the conclusion is of all of all this mess. I hope that we can turn things around, at least in our
01:03:44.780 country. But there is no guarantee, of course, of any kind of political success or prosperity in this
01:03:52.060 life. Our hope is in heaven. All we can do is be as courageous, be as obedient as possible in this
01:03:58.380 moment. Tomorrow, I am going to talk to an apologist and just a great thinker, Neil Shenvey. He recently
01:04:06.940 wrote a book about apologetics and how to defend your faith. I think he does that in a very compelling
01:04:13.420 and interesting way. You're going to love that conversation tomorrow. It'll kind of be a sigh of relief
01:04:18.940 after this heavy and complex conversation today. So tune in for that. I will see you guys then.