Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 689 ｜ Kanye, White Lives Matter & John MacArthur’s Fiery Rebuke

00:00:00.000 Kanye West says white lives matter, baby lives matter, and also tweets something about Jewish

00:00:08.560 people. Also, continuing calls to rename Columbus Day will do nothing to help the serious problems

00:00:16.000 in indigenous communities, but such is the stupidity and wickedness of virtue signaling. 1.00

00:00:21.840 And John MacArthur shows Christians how to truly and righteously speak truth to power in his 1.00

00:00:27.900 scathing statement to Gavin Newsom. All of this and some gospel encouragement today. This episode

00:00:34.280 is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com. All right, y'all. Happy

00:00:49.760 Tuesday. I am so glad to finally be back. If you are not following me on Instagram, then you may not

00:00:57.440 know the reason why we had replays all last week on Relatable and a replay yesterday is because I had

00:01:05.160 laryngitis and I completely lost my voice. It was the weirdest thing. It was the weirdest thing. I've

00:01:12.100 never had laryngitis before. You would think in my line of work with as much as I talk that I would

00:01:17.160 get laryngitis often, but I've never lost my voice actually. And I had a cold, which apparently in

00:01:23.540 talking to a lot of you, this is going around this like seven day nasty cold where people are losing

00:01:30.760 their voice. It's almost like the flu. I don't know if it's COVID. I didn't get tested for COVID,

00:01:37.420 but my whole family has had it over the past month. It was kind of a cascade. It started with our

00:01:42.460 youngest and then my husband got it and then my oldest got it. And I was bragging. I was like,

00:01:48.620 wow, my immune system, the mom immune system. It's amazing. I am totally protected against this.

00:01:55.500 I've been traveling a lot in the month of September and I was just, I was amazed that I

00:02:02.160 had not gotten this. And I thought that I was in the clear. And then y'all pride comes before the fall

00:02:08.940 because I did end up getting it. But here's how this cold goes. And maybe this will help you if

00:02:16.340 you're navigating this yourself or with your family. It starts out like a normal cold. And

00:02:21.260 this seems to be the experience of a lot of people, not just me and not just my family, but

00:02:24.660 it's, it starts out just like runny nose, headache, normal kind of cold thing. And those kinds of colds

00:02:31.400 had plenty of them. They last two to three days, especially those that are just kind of seasonal as

00:02:36.560 school starts back. It's just something that happens. However, this, you think it's going to last two

00:02:42.400 to three days, you start feeling better around day three. For me, it started not last Thursday,

00:02:47.620 but the Thursday before I was in Indianapolis. And you know, all of a sudden when something just kind

00:02:52.540 of hits you and you're like, Oh, I feel the sickness coming like a freight train. And I felt that a couple,

00:03:00.920 a couple of weeks ago, a couple of Thursdays ago. And then a couple of days later, I felt better.

00:03:06.000 I was going to work out. I was good. And then by Tuesday, I went totally downhill by Monday. I

00:03:14.000 thought that I was on the up and up. I thought I was getting better. And then by Tuesday, I woke up

00:03:17.860 and I had no voice. And this has never happened to me. It is the weirdest feeling if you've ever

00:03:23.440 lost your voice before. It's I mean, it's like losing a sense. It's like going blind or going deaf.

00:03:29.060 You really feel like you can't function in the world. And when I say that I lost my voice,

00:03:33.200 and some of you heard me when I was starting to lose my voice on Instagram, because I put a story

00:03:37.820 up saying, sorry, no show today. I can barely talk. But it got to the point to where I literally could

00:03:44.580 not get a sound out. It was just it was a whisper. This is all I could do. And if you've got kids,

00:03:49.860 especially if you've got little kids that you're always trying to wrangle and you're trying to

00:03:53.680 talk to and especially, you know, in those stressful moments and like meltdowns and you're in a hurry to

00:04:00.500 try to, you know, get out the door, you really need your voice. You really need to be able to

00:04:06.100 communicate, of course, in all segments of life, but especially when you have a little team of kids

00:04:11.460 that you are trying to get, you know, get them to push the ball down the field figuratively. And so

00:04:17.940 that was so tough. I had to whisper constantly and you're not supposed to whisper with laryngitis.

00:04:24.560 But anyway, the part that maybe is helpful is knowing that it's kind of a seven day timeline,

00:04:29.180 the thing that seems to be going around. Some people have a really bad cough and some people

00:04:34.340 are losing their voice entirely. I used a humidifier. I drank lots of tea. People recommended

00:04:40.880 throat coat. And I drank that religiously for two to three days. I think you can just look it up

00:04:46.280 online. I'm sure you can get it at your local grocery store, too. And honey, lemon gargled with

00:04:52.360 salt water. My throat was killing me for a couple of days. And that's just, you know, absolutely

00:04:57.540 miserable. I did finally take some pain reliever. That was a game changer. I know that, you know,

00:05:04.740 there are bad effects to things like ibuprofen and Tylenol, but I just had to do it. And that

00:05:10.540 was super helpful. Try to drink lots of water. Did I already say I used a humidifier? If you don't do

00:05:15.480 that, then I do recommend that. So that's basically what I did. And I rested. And I did feel like God was

00:05:22.060 forcing me to rest. Because as I said, in September, and even into October, it was go,

00:05:28.860 go, go for me. It was my busiest travel month that I've had probably since 2018. Because so many

00:05:35.160 organizations are just now having their fundraising events and opening back up. And so I've had the

00:05:41.180 privilege of traveling the country. And I'm so thankful for that. But I did realize about halfway

00:05:46.240 through the month of September that I overcommitted myself, that I said yes, over the course of the

00:05:51.320 past two years, to all these organizations that have been reaching out to me and asking me to come

00:05:55.840 speak, not realizing how congested of a month that I would have and how difficult that would be. And

00:06:02.320 sometimes I get to bring my family. And so we make it work. And sometimes they're super quick trips.

00:06:07.220 But no matter what, it still takes it out of you. And I realized halfway through September,

00:06:12.120 dang it, I said yes to too many things. And while every single opportunity is a privilege,

00:06:18.200 it's an honor to be able to speak to you guys and to be able to talk with you and hug you and

00:06:23.640 pray with you and all of those things. I absolutely love meeting relatable listeners. It's still really

00:06:29.640 hard. And I knew at some point that I was like, okay, I've got to take a break. I've just got to take

00:06:36.500 a break. But I had no intention of taking a week off from my podcast. That wasn't even an option I

00:06:42.040 had in my head. And yet, God basically told me, hey, yeah, this is the week that you're going to

00:06:48.780 take a break. And you're literally not going to have an option. Because if I had had any other

00:06:52.860 sickness, and I hadn't lost my voice, I would have toughed it out. I wouldn't have even thought about

00:06:57.540 it. If I had just had like the sniffles or a cough or something, I would have said, well,

00:07:01.320 I'm still going to go in. I'm still going to do these 30 minute, I'll just do 30 minute episodes,

00:07:05.240 or I'll do an interview. But because I literally could not talk, I couldn't do that. I was

00:07:11.280 forced to rest. And I'm thankful for that. Now I had a lot of people at the organizations that I

00:07:16.540 spoke to over the weekend praying for me and praying that my voice would come back. I spoke

00:07:21.680 at a pro-life event for live action in Santa Monica, California on Saturday night. It was an

00:07:26.240 amazing event, such a privilege. And then yesterday, I was in Scottsdale talking to a group of amazing

00:07:33.220 believers there just about engaging in the culture and raising up kids and grandkids

00:07:37.760 in this kind of crazy chaotic world that we live in using scripture. And my voice was back for both

00:07:45.020 of those things. And so I'm thankful for that. I'm thankful for the prayers of my fellow saints that

00:07:50.840 carried me through. And I'm very thankful to be back now. But I'm also grateful that the Lord gave me

00:07:57.060 last week to rest and to reset and that he used sickness, something that maybe Satan meant for evil.

00:08:05.440 The Lord used in a redemptive and a good way to take care of me. You know, we don't think about

00:08:11.580 things like sickness as a way that the Lord may actually be caring for your health. Isn't that

00:08:17.980 interesting? That for the sake of health and for the sake of my well-being, that the Lord allowed me to

00:08:25.700 become sick. And so something that could just be seen as a misfortune or why me? Why would this

00:08:32.940 happen to me? Oh, I'm so sad, self-pity. I actually can rejoice in and be thankful for

00:08:38.160 because the Lord, who is my shepherd, used it to care for me. And so I'm thankful for that. But I

00:08:45.180 have to say, I am very glad. I'm very glad to have my voice back because we have a lot to talk about

00:08:52.200 today. We have a lot to talk about. I asked you guys what you wanted to hear from me on, and I could

00:08:58.800 talk to you for five hours about all of those things. We literally, we were laughing before we

00:09:03.220 started. The document that we have that we have been just kind of building over the past week or

00:09:09.700 so while I've been out, I just kind of send stories to my team and we add it to a document. It's 87

00:09:14.720 pages. So, I mean, we could be here for 87 hours. We could do a marathon-relatable podcast episode,

00:09:23.080 but I won't do that to you. We'll just talk about a few things. Before I get into it,

00:09:27.240 I'll read an ad. But I do just want to say also, and this is what I say whenever I've been

00:09:33.240 traveling, is that I'm always so encouraged when I do travel and when I speak to Christians,

00:09:39.120 not just when I'm up on stage, but when I get to have the conversations afterwards,

00:09:43.160 which I very often do, and I get to hear from you guys. I get to hear not just how God is used

00:09:50.740 relatable in your life or you're not enough and that's okay in your life, but also just how God is

00:09:56.640 using you and how he's using your platform, whether you have a million followers or you have 10

00:10:02.180 followers or whether you're a stay-at-home mom or whether you're working. I love hearing what God

00:10:07.240 is doing in your life and through your life. And as I say so often, God is on the move. He is working,

00:10:15.380 doing incredible things for his own glory and the good of other people through the often unseen and

00:10:21.480 unsung obedience of Christians. And it's easy to look at the headlines, what's trending on Twitter

00:10:26.640 and where our country is headed, and understandably be anxious and feel like, wow, everything is going

00:10:33.020 to hell in a handbasket. Things are only getting worse. But what I'm always reminded of when I am

00:10:38.360 surrounded by believers is that God's ultimate eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch,

00:10:44.180 that he is every day advancing his kingdom, that he is every day sharing the gospel through the lives

00:10:51.240 and the words of believers. That yes, today is scary and we face in some ways new threats, in some

00:10:59.260 ways threats and sins and evils that have always been around, but just manifest itself in new ways

00:11:05.860 today. There's really nothing new under the sun. Today just looks like Romans 1 and Romans was written

00:11:10.440 thousands and thousands of years ago at this point. And so just as God was then, God is now using his

00:11:19.620 Holy Spirit to work through believers to do incredible things for his glory. He is saving lives. He is

00:11:29.840 saving souls. He is changing hearts. He is changing minds. He is activating Christians to be his hands and

00:11:38.220 feet, to be his feet, to be his aroma, to be his ambassadors. And every day, Christians are making 1.00

00:11:43.580 the world around them better by not just speaking the truth in love, but also by doing what other people

00:11:50.600 won't, by going to the least of these and the most vulnerable and serving them in ways that will never

00:11:57.960 get recognition or fame or acceptance, praise by the world, and yet is right and is pleasing in the

00:12:08.160 eyes of the Lord. That's happening every day. And we are a part of that simply by doing the next

00:12:14.400 right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. That is how God is working through

00:12:20.180 believers and he is on his throne. Totally and completely sovereign. Power belongs to God. I think

00:12:28.160 that's Psalm 65 11. I'll look it up as I'm talking. But power belongs to God. Authority belongs to God.

00:12:36.440 That is not Psalm 65 11. I will read you Psalm 65 11 right now. It's much less inspiring than that.

00:12:42.500 Just looked it up on Bible Gateway. You crown the year with your bounty. Your wagon tracks overflow with

00:12:47.280 abundance. That's cool too. Not exactly what I'm talking about. So I should probably stick to

00:12:53.560 references that I know. Let's see. Power belongs to God. Okay. Close, close, really close.

00:13:02.400 Psalm 62 11. Once God has spoken, twice have I heard this, that power belongs to God. So power

00:13:10.220 doesn't belong to Joe Biden. Power doesn't belong to Donald Trump. Power doesn't belong to the Democrat

00:13:14.320 Party. Power doesn't belong to the DOJ. Power doesn't belong to the Republican Party. It doesn't

00:13:19.840 belong to Xi Jinping. It doesn't belong to Vladimir Putin. It doesn't belong to the FBI. It doesn't belong

00:13:27.240 to any of these worldly institutions. And while governments have been instituted by God and

00:13:31.920 certainly have their purpose to carry out righteousness and both righteous wrath on the

00:13:37.960 wrongdoer, ultimately power belongs to God. Fate belongs to God. Nothing can thwart God's will.

00:13:46.120 Job 42 2. And I'm sure about that reference. That God is totally and completely sovereign and on

00:13:54.020 his throne. And one day, Jesus is King will not just be a belief that we have in our heads as

00:14:00.840 Christians, but will be a reality that everyone sees and every knee will bow, every tongue will confess 0.99

00:14:05.920 that Jesus Christ is Lord. Now, speaking of Jesus is King, that was a song that Kanye West wrote and

00:14:17.160 published a few years ago when Christians got on the Kanye train and said, myself included,

00:14:23.120 wow, this is awesome. He is going to be such a light for the gospel. And it's been an interesting

00:14:30.040 road since that happened. And we've still got some interesting occurrences happening with Kanye West

00:14:36.960 Okay, let's talk about Kanye West, White Lives Matter, and conservatives and even Christians

00:14:57.180 turbulent love affair with Kanye. So Kanye, yay, I think he legally changed his name recently,

00:15:03.320 made headlines the other day, when he posted a picture of himself with Candace Owens. And I think

00:15:09.520 they're in Paris, and they're facing away from the camera. And on the back of these long sleeve shirts

00:15:14.740 that apparently Kanye West designed because he is a fashion designer, it said a White Lives Matter 0.91

00:15:20.340 written on the back. And obviously, they knew that this was going to be controversial. And because

00:15:27.140 people on the left say that this is a loaded phrase, that it's white supremacist, that it's

00:15:32.940 white nationalist, and they knew that it was going to draw attention. And Kanye had been in the news

00:15:40.220 recently, or people have been talking about him, at least on social media recently, because he randomly

00:15:45.760 will do this every few months, he'll get on Instagram, and he'll start like posting his beef with people,

00:15:50.340 or he'll get on Twitter. He hadn't been on Twitter in a while. But he'll post conversations that he has

00:15:56.780 with people, whether it's like Kim Kardashian, or these other artists, or celebrities, or fashion

00:16:01.060 designers, or corporations that honestly, most of them, I don't even know. And he'll, he'll just kind

00:16:07.180 of start getting in the conversation again. And so that had been happening for a little bit. And then he

00:16:12.200 posted this picture. And I mean, people freaked out, like freaked out left wing media figures,

00:16:20.800 flipped on social media, calling him dangerous, perpetuated and extremist, white supremacist

00:16:28.020 theology. You hear that? He's a white supremacist. Him and Candace Owens are white supremacists, 0.88

00:16:34.180 apparently. And then he went on Tucker Carlson's show last week, which I was really excited about.

00:16:38.620 I mean, I just thought it was going to be such an interesting dynamic. And so I tuned in, there were

00:16:43.140 two nights of this interview, I tuned into the first night. And right away, like he said some awesome

00:16:48.700 things about being pro-life. And the value of babies in the womb, he had, he came from Paris

00:16:54.560 Fashion Week, whatever that is, I'm still like unclear about what that even is. But apparently,

00:16:59.480 he like he was in LA. And he got off the plane to talk to Kanye West. And on his little name tag from

00:17:06.760 Paris Fashion Week, he had a picture of a sonogram and saying that he is pro-life. He cares about life

00:17:12.580 inside the womb. Awesome. You do not hear that from celebrities. He also talked about God. Not

00:17:17.860 totally sure about some of his comments. He said something along the lines of like, you might not

00:17:23.400 believe in God, but God believes in you. Not really sure what exactly that means and the theological

00:17:32.200 soundness of it, but whatever. He talked about his faith. I appreciate that. Honestly, he said a bunch

00:17:38.260 of stuff that I do not understand. Like I don't comprehend it because they're about the fashion

00:17:43.820 world and the Kardashians and Hollywood. And I'm just not really inundated in those spheres. And I

00:17:49.500 know there's a lot of people that say that they totally follow and can connect everything that

00:17:54.640 Kanye says. And they probably can. Maybe they've been following him for a really long time or they

00:17:58.580 just understand how his brain works. I personally don't have that superpower. I'm just going to say

00:18:03.220 that. Like I don't have that superpower. I need an interpreter sometimes. I struggle to connect the

00:18:09.500 dots in a lot of what he says. However, I do appreciate, this is what I do appreciate about

00:18:17.620 Kanye West, that he is not your typical talking point spouting brainless celebrity who falls in line

00:18:24.900 with what Hollywood tells artists and especially black artists what they have to say in order to be

00:18:29.580 authentically black or empathetic or whatever it is about things like abortion or the family,

00:18:37.120 et cetera. Like at least he is actually thinking about these things and he is willing to say,

00:18:43.460 huh, what everyone says on my side, on my political side and in my Hollywood and fashion

00:18:49.360 sphere that I have to say or think about these things. I don't know if I agree with that. I'm not

00:18:55.080 sure about that. And I'm willing to drive a wedge between myself and these relationships.

00:18:59.060 And the Hollywood elite and saying what I really think. At least he's willing to do that because

00:19:03.740 a lot of people aren't. So in the, if nothing else, he is an individual and there is something to

00:19:11.440 admire and to respect about that. And then he also says some things that make me go,

00:19:19.740 hmm, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. So over, over the weekend, he said, he posted a tweet

00:19:29.360 that got him kicked off Twitter. He said, I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going

00:19:35.680 DEATHCON3 on Jewish people, Jewish people in all caps. The funny thing is I actually can't be 1.00

00:19:43.140 anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jew. Also, you guys have toyed with me and tried to

00:19:49.940 blackball anyone, whoever poses your agenda. I have no idea what this means. Doesn't sound good. 0.99

00:19:58.940 Does it sound good? Doesn't sound good to me. When he says black people are the real Jewish people,

00:20:08.320 this is not just like a random comment. This is actually a belief of the black supremacist cult 0.97

00:20:13.640 called the black Hebrew Israelites. They believe that they are God's real chosen people and that

00:20:19.360 quote unquote white Jews are fakes who have stolen their divine heritage. And so what he is repeating 0.99

00:20:29.060 here, he actually is now repeating a talking point from a particular radical group. And this got him,

00:20:35.860 as I said, suspended from Twitter. Weird statement, bad statement. I just don't know what he meant by

00:20:44.020 it. Now, I did get a kick out of many on the left decrying anti-Semitism like John Legend and AOC.

00:20:53.920 They're calling out Kanye West because of his anti-Semitism, but they have no problem with it when 1.00

00:20:59.740 it comes to the blatant Jew hatred on their own side from the likes of people like Ilhan Omar,

00:21:05.240 Rashida Tlaib, and who will not talk about the fact that attacks on Jewish communities in places

00:21:11.240 like New York are very common. They happen all the time and are almost always perpetrated by black 1.00

00:21:17.000 Americans. Like they won't talk about that. That is likely happening in AOC's district. I've never 0.99

00:21:22.000 seen her talk about that, that that actually seems to be a problem, that those two communities,

00:21:27.320 when they live together, very often seem to be at odds. And the Hasidic Jews are typically the 1.00

00:21:34.760 victims there. Like no one really wants to say that out loud because it only ever can be conservatives

00:21:42.420 or the right wing that are the enemies of these minority groups. But that's just not how it shakes

00:21:49.860 out in reality. So, I mean, they're going against Kanye West for what they're saying is an anti-Semitic

00:21:58.000 attack. They're not willing to call it out when it's inconvenient to their narrative or when it's

00:22:02.360 coming from their own side, when it's coming from their own party. Now, that said, I mean, I agree with a

00:22:11.220 lot of the criticism. It was a very, I mean, in Kanye's way, it seemed like a very random thing

00:22:19.420 out of the blue for him to say. This is also Kanye West. He says inspiring things. He says

00:22:25.660 interesting things. He also says like very erratic things that make you go, what? No, no, no. And here's

00:22:34.580 what happens every few months. Kanye says something that conservatives like and we cheer. And I think

00:22:43.740 a lot of us assume that, OK, now he's like on our side. Now he is a Republican or he is a conservative

00:22:49.160 or I mean, I had super high hopes of him being like a reformed Christian a few years ago because he came

00:22:56.160 out and he came out as, you know, a believer, as truly born again. And a lot of his theology seemed

00:23:03.200 really sound that it seemed like he was under the tutelage of some really solid teachers in

00:23:09.500 California. I think it was a pastor who went to John MacArthur's Master Seminary. And so I was

00:23:14.900 super excited about that. And he came out with this Christian album that sounded really good,

00:23:20.700 that seemed to have pretty good theology. And then he'll say something that's surprising,

00:23:26.520 like he'll associate with Joel Osteen or he will make comments that just make you scratch your head

00:23:34.120 or say, oh, I just that's not no. And so I think that the lesson is because then conservatives or

00:23:47.180 Christians get embarrassed that they like fully endorsed him as an entire person and everything

00:23:55.160 that he says. And so they'll back away from it. But I think what we just need to realize is that

00:24:02.740 conservatives in our desperation to be accepted by mainstream culture, because conservatives are so

00:24:11.560 tired of getting beat up on, they're so tired of being at odds with every single entity, whether it's

00:24:22.600 academia or the public education system or the federal government or Hollywood or mainstream media

00:24:28.660 or big tech, that they're like desperately looking for someone who is in the mainstream, who has

00:24:34.800 cultural capital, who is cool to be their champion, to be on their side. And that can then lead to a lack

00:24:43.180 of discernment in the people that the right decides to lionize. And I think we have to be really careful

00:24:48.680 about that. I think we would do very well to hesitate before hoisting up any celebrity as a

00:24:53.940 hero. But we as conservatives, I mean, we do this a lot. As I said, we kind of drool with excitement when

00:25:00.720 a mainstream person says something that we agree with. And then we just like quietly back away like

00:25:07.300 Bart Simpson into the hedges when we realize that that person isn't doesn't really share our worldview and

00:25:15.140 that what they said was a one off. So I think it's fine. I think it's fine to applaud when anyone says

00:25:21.880 something that is not communist. And that has the power to wake people up has the power to show people

00:25:29.620 how silly and contradictory progressivism is has the power to actually shift the Overton window, whether

00:25:35.720 that's Dave Chappelle or Joe Rogan or Kanye West or anyone that may not really be on our side fully. But they 0.53

00:25:45.920 have such a large platform that them even being heterodox and even them bucking the system a little bit can

00:25:52.860 be really helpful. I think it's totally fine to applaud and to be happy about that. I've written articles about

00:25:59.460 why I think it's good that people like Dave Chappelle push back against the craziness of gender ideology. And I feel the 0.60

00:26:05.260 same about this. But I just think conservatives and Christians also just need to be careful before

00:26:10.760 saying, Oh, this is our guy, we're going to put him on a pedestal. He represents everything that I

00:26:15.920 believe he's going to be our champion, he's going to lead us into battle. Well, that's probably just not

00:26:21.740 it's probably just not going to happen. So we might just need to cool our jets a little bit on that. And

00:26:27.180 that's okay. Like we don't need, we don't need a celebrity champion. We don't need a representative

00:26:33.860 from Hollywood or the mainstream at all to continue doing what we are doing, which is just saying and

00:26:39.600 representing and fighting for what is true and keep, we can keep trying to open people's eyes because

00:26:45.800 that's effective too. All right, I want to make this, I just want to make a quick comment about this

00:27:02.720 phrase white lives matter. I understand it's controversial. And the reason people say it's

00:27:06.460 controversial is because they say white lives are already recognized. They're already protected.

00:27:13.120 They already have insulation. They already have privilege. It's you can say black lives matter 0.99

00:27:17.700 because people and the system don't believe that black lives matter and black lives are devalued in

00:27:22.920 this country and they're systemically oppressed. There's institutional racism. So we have to say black

00:27:28.360 lives matter. So the police will stop killing black people. And that's, and that doesn't happen 0.99

00:27:33.660 to white people. White people already have all the privileges and rights in the world. You can say 0.97

00:27:38.200 Asian lives matter. You can say Hispanic lives matter. You can say indigenous people lives matter,

00:27:42.540 but you can't say white lives matter because that just shows some kind of white nationalism and white

00:27:47.100 supremacy. And we already live in a white supremacist country, which is absolute hogwash. It's absolute 0.98

00:27:54.220 hogwash. We just heard the vice president of the United States the other day saying when it comes to

00:27:58.260 disaster relief in Florida, that they are going to prioritize minority communities. So what does 0.98

00:28:05.440 that mean? That means that white people get it last. Sorry, white people, that maybe they live in a 0.86

00:28:10.820 community that has been more devastated by Hurricane Ian than a community with a larger black population. 0.96

00:28:17.800 You apparently, according to the federal government and according to Vice President Harris, you're going to

00:28:23.780 get disaster relief last. Now, of course, DeSantis and his team has said that's absolutely not happening.

00:28:29.540 But that's what the vice president said. We also saw that with the vaccine rollout, that vaccine that

00:28:34.020 they said was going to save people's lives in places like Chicago and in other major blue cities like

00:28:40.720 that. They said that they were going to prioritize BIPOC communities even before they were going to

00:28:45.500 prioritize older white Americans for the sake of equity. Of course, we see that with acceptance and

00:28:54.900 admissions for colleges as well. And so this idea that the only discrimination that exists in America

00:29:03.340 is against black and brown people and that white people have this kind of privilege that is insulating

00:29:11.680 them from discrimination. It's literally the opposite of what is true. It is. And so while I'm not saying that

00:29:22.480 we should be walking around saying white lives matter or wearing shirts, I mean, I'm not saying that this is a 1.00

00:29:28.280 slogan or something that we need to put as a banner of any kind of movement, but to say that it is off limits

00:29:38.560 because it's white supremacist, but you can say every other kind of life matters. I mean, it's absolute

00:29:46.000 hogwash and it just doesn't speak to reality. We've also talked about the numbers when it comes to police

00:29:52.960 killings of black men and police killings of all kinds of people, all kinds of unarmed people, how the numbers

00:30:01.260 do not shake out to prove that the police is killing black people based on their race, that it's actually 0.97

00:30:10.300 proportionate to the crimes that are unfortunately committed in that community. And so that entire narrative

00:30:19.980 that we have to say black lives matter because black lives are not are not already valued in the society. That's just not true.

00:30:30.260 Plus the organization of black lives matter is fraudulent. It's used the money that many people 1.00

00:30:38.940 donated, donated millions and millions and millions of dollars to make themselves richer, not to better

00:30:45.040 communities in any way, not to help the people that they say are oppressed, but to buy their own

00:30:50.000 mansions in California. It has to do with their own power. That's what Marxists do. They said that

00:30:54.940 they're trained Marxists. That's what Marxists do. They claim to be fighting on behalf of the oppressed.

00:30:59.500 They swindle you for your money and then they use that money to get richer and to make sure that

00:31:09.740 they have power. They don't actually care about the people that they say that they're advocating for.

00:31:14.240 They use emotional manipulation and deceit in order to get you to donate money. And then I also wanted to

00:31:21.240 read this from someone who claims to be on the right when you're talking about, oh, we don't need to say

00:31:27.160 white lives matter because white lives are already valued in this country. Let me read you this 0.99

00:31:31.140 paragraph from Kevin Williamson, who used to write for National Review. This is from 2016. I think this

00:31:36.460 is one of the most offensive paragraphs that I've ever read. But this kind of thing, you can say this

00:31:41.000 kind of thing about white people in a way that you could never say about any other community without

00:31:44.980 absolutely getting lambasted. He said he's talking about these middle of the country,

00:31:52.040 you know, middle America, forgotten America, rural communities that Trump really championed and that

00:31:58.740 really helped him win in 2016. This is what Kevin Williamson had to say about that in 2016 in National

00:32:05.860 Review. The truth about these dysfunctional downscale communities is that they deserve to die. So we're 1.00

00:32:11.600 talking about, you know, hillbilly allergy type places. We're talking about Kentucky. We're talking

00:32:16.860 about Ohio. We're talking about these places that have been gutted because both Republicans and

00:32:20.980 Democrats have taken the manufacturing jobs in those communities and shipped them off to China.

00:32:26.580 And so Kevin Williamson says, economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they're indefensible.

00:32:31.060 Forget all your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap. Forget your sanctimony about struggling 0.99

00:32:35.840 rust belt factory towns and your conspiracy theories about the wily oriental stealing our jobs. 1.00

00:32:40.920 It's what? It's not a conspiracy theory that those jobs have been sent over to China, but whatever.

00:32:47.560 Forget your GD, gypsum. And if he has a problem with that, forget Ed Burke too. The white American 1.00

00:32:54.440 underclass is enthralled to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used 1.00

00:32:59.900 heroin needles. Donald Trump's speeches make them feel good. So does Oxycontin. What they need isn't 0.74

00:33:05.860 analgesics, literal or political. They need real opportunity, which means that they need real

00:33:13.120 change, which means that they need U-Haul. So he's talking about these white working class communities 1.00

00:33:20.020 in middle America. He's making fun of the fact that there are addiction issues largely because

00:33:25.140 of the drugs that are imported from overseas, but also overprescribed by doctors. And also because of the

00:33:32.240 purposelessness and the misery that has been brought on by a lack of economic opportunity and mobility in

00:33:37.920 those areas because of exporting the jobs that were once theirs to places like China, he's making fun of

00:33:45.100 that. He's saying that it's good that this white working class in these places are falling apart and 0.91

00:33:51.960 that it absolutely should be good. It doesn't matter what happens to them. And it doesn't matter that

00:33:56.040 Donald Trump is their champion. It's basically just a conspiracy theory that we shouldn't care

00:34:00.960 about. Now imagine someone writing that about any other community in this country. You can't do it.

00:34:09.020 You can't do it. And the fact of the matter is the people that are represented in books like

00:34:12.460 Hillbilly Elegy, people don't care about them. Those white lives don't matter to politicians, 1.00

00:34:18.460 to people in the media. You're not allowed to talk about the problems that may be specific to the

00:34:23.900 white working class. And so maybe someone's saying white lives matter. Maybe it does carry a little 0.75

00:34:30.520 bit of weight when you think about the communities that have been largely forgotten and abandoned

00:34:35.760 and are now destitute because of people who won't champion them and who won't represent them and who are

00:34:44.200 willing to demonize them in the pages of the National Review in a way that you could not demonize

00:34:50.300 any other community and still have a job. So I'm just saying maybe it's not right to say that a phrase

00:34:58.080 like that is only extremist and is only radical and is only racist. Maybe it is simply okay to say

00:35:07.320 that all lives matter. Like maybe we should just be saying, you know what, no matter what your skin

00:35:12.380 color is, you're made in the image of God. And you should have equal rights. You have equal value.

00:35:20.180 That does not mean that you will have equal outcomes. That doesn't mean that we try to hold

00:35:26.940 back one group and hoist up another group in the hopes that we'll finally have equal outcomes. That's

00:35:32.960 just impossible. But maybe it's okay to say that white lives matter and that everyone who, 0.77

00:35:41.440 that black lives matter, that Hispanic lives matter, whatever. Maybe it's okay to just say that and 0.99

00:35:47.460 we see how pitting groups against each other doesn't really work out very well. And if Kanye West and

00:35:53.380 Candace Owens, by wearing that, kind of started that conversation and got people to talk about that, 0.99

00:35:58.500 like, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. So those just, I just wanted to mention some thoughts

00:36:04.320 on that. All right.

00:36:11.440 Okay. Speaking of all of this, speaking of all of this, let me say something about Columbus Day. So

00:36:21.540 people are pushing to have Columbus Day removed as a holiday because when Columbus discovered,

00:36:28.740 quote unquote, America, that led to all kinds of atrocities, truly. Tragedies, disease,

00:36:37.800 of the systemic killing of Native Americans, some things that we can truly say, wow, that is atrocious

00:36:44.540 and that is really sad. And I'm really sad for the innocent victims of that. But apparently we're

00:36:50.120 just supposed to pretend like Columbus discovering America has not led to anything good, that there is

00:36:57.060 nothing worth celebrating there, that it would have been better if America had never been discovered

00:37:02.380 and the indigenous people in America. It would have been just better off if they had been completely 1.00

00:37:10.140 left alone because they were living these wonderful, peaceful lives before civilization came along.

00:37:17.320 And that is just a myth. The history of the world is conquest. All of us have ancestors that were

00:37:23.940 conquered and probably were conquerors at one point. All of us have ancestors that were enslavers

00:37:29.980 and enslaved at one point. That is the history of the world. That all of us come from a lineage of

00:37:35.740 both oppressors and the oppressed. This idea that only white Europeans have been oppressors and all the

00:37:42.280 black brown minorities of the world have always just been oppressed and been trying to live

00:37:47.520 peaceably. But the white man keeps bringing them down. That is a historical nonsense. That is not at 0.98

00:37:52.820 all the history of the world. And actually recognizing that can bring us reconciliation and unity today

00:37:59.540 when we recognize that we do not carry either the guilt or the shame of our ancestors. But we have an

00:38:06.280 opportunity today to make the lives of those around us better and to simply be kind to the people

00:38:14.340 who God has placed in our lives, no matter what their ancestry is. But because people profit off of a

00:38:21.440 gospel of grievance because people, politicians, pastors gain power from preaching racial division and

00:38:30.180 ancestral guilt and trauma and shame, unfortunately, those seeds of division are reaping really awful theology

00:38:39.600 and awful political ideology today. The reality is, as I said, that there have been both conquerors and the

00:38:49.720 conquered. And that was also true in Native America before Christopher Columbus came along and said,

00:38:56.960 hey, this should probably be a civilization one day. This idea that Native Americans were living these 1.00

00:39:04.640 peaceful lives and they just got along and they were happy with their own land and they were happy

00:39:09.260 to allow other tribes to live in their own land and that everything was all good is just a lie. That is 0.96

00:39:15.920 a myth. The reality is, is that there was child sacrifice. There was torture. There was bloodshed. There was

00:39:24.440 tribal warfare. There was conquering. There was fighting before Christopher Columbus came along. And so it's not like

00:39:34.460 he disrupted this peaceful nation. The fact is, there was violence and torment and all kinds of atrocities that

00:39:42.360 were already happening in Native America. And then, yes, there were also atrocities that were perpetrated by

00:39:49.320 the Europeans who then came to America. And so I don't think that we need to defend those atrocities at 0.91

00:39:55.940 all. But I do think that we can say in the long run, I'm really thankful for civilization. Like in the long run,

00:40:01.760 I'm very thankful for the West. I'm very thankful for Western civilization and what it has accomplished

00:40:08.380 in the way of human rights and what it has accomplished in the way of prosperity and freedom

00:40:14.380 for a lot of people. Naomi Riley, whom I've had on this show before to talk about the problems with CPS,

00:40:20.740 the problems are not what I thought and maybe not what you think either. I'll link that episode.

00:40:27.960 She also wrote a book called The New Trail of Tears, and she looks at the problems on Indian reservations

00:40:35.720 today. And the reality is, is that these communities face problems that are really never talked about.

00:40:45.300 It's insanely high rates of alcoholism, of drug addiction, of child abuse, terrible child abuse,

00:40:58.540 and neglect that goes on on these reservations. Homicide, crime, assault, rape, extremely high.

00:41:09.120 And the problem is, is that the Native Americans that live on these reservations are almost completely 0.93

00:41:16.100 immune to the law. That is how our law is set up in the name of land back and the name of social justice 0.93

00:41:23.620 and the name of equity. Native Americans do not have to meet the same legal standards or have the same 0.89

00:41:32.280 accountability in many cases as people who do not live in these territories. And that is really bad

00:41:39.860 for victims. That's really bad for the women and children who bear the brunt of that kind of

00:41:46.800 criminality that just goes on with impunity, especially the children there. Really, there is nothing

00:41:55.100 that the state can do. In some cases, like in the state of Oklahoma, the law enforcement, their hands are

00:42:01.600 completely tied. The state and local officials, they can't do anything to protect these kids in some

00:42:07.840 cases. Not in all cases. I'm not saying they're completely immune all the time from the law,

00:42:12.280 but there is a lot of criminality and abuse that is allowed to go on on these reservations because

00:42:21.000 in the name of reparations, the government in the United States has decided that they don't have to

00:42:27.460 play by the same rules, that they get special privileges for pot and for casinos and gambling.

00:42:36.840 And this does not help these communities. And so changing the name of Columbus Day to Indigenous

00:42:43.800 People's Day, carving out these special privileges for gambling and casinos and pot shops and making sure

00:42:52.540 that the people committing crimes on these reservations are not held accountable. None of

00:42:58.420 these things, while done apparently in the name of social justice, are going to help these communities

00:43:04.280 at all. It's virtue signaling. It's performative activism. It's not actually caring for the people,

00:43:11.320 especially the children that are suffering there. It does the opposite because that's what social

00:43:16.920 justice is and does. Social justice sounds good. Policies that apparently help the homeless,

00:43:23.620 policies that help the poor that come from the left, policies that are supposedly helping the

00:43:29.920 marginalized and helping Black and brown people and immigrants always end up just incentivizing 0.99

00:43:36.480 bad behavior and destroying the very communities that they say that they're trying to help. And that

00:43:41.480 is true when it comes to the policies around Native American reservations. And so changing Columbus Day

00:43:48.320 to Indigenous People's Day will do absolutely nothing for these communities. Absolutely nothing.

00:43:56.760 And that is the problem with virtue signaling is that it helps people at the top feel better while

00:44:01.520 never having to actually do anything, ever having to sacrifice, ever having to get off their couch.

00:44:07.780 And in that way, it's really wicked. It's really hypocritical. And it's very Pharisaical when you 0.98

00:44:13.280 think about who the Pharisees were. They wanted to perform acts of superficial righteousness, but Jesus

00:44:18.920 called them whitewashed tombs. On the inside, they were dead and decaying, even while on the outside,

00:44:25.100 they looked really nice. And they hoisted themselves up as these kind of righteous heroes. And they set this

00:44:33.500 standard of hollow righteousness that they knew the regular Jew could never meet. And Jesus said, 0.99

00:44:41.420 no, you're a brood of vipers. You're whitewashed tombs. You don't have the righteousness that is 0.94

00:44:47.060 pleasing to God because your heart is dead and cold. So it is with performative activism and with a virtue

00:44:54.100 signaling. I mean, that's what the whole Black Lives Matter organization is, trying to seem righteous and 0.99

00:45:00.620 compassionate and empathetic on the outside and emotionally manipulate people into supporting

00:45:08.160 this organization and saying, you're not righteous. You're not loving. You're not Christian. You're not 0.99

00:45:12.780 compassionate unless you support us. And really, the inside of the Black Lives Matter organization is

00:45:18.520 dead and decaying because they don't do anything for the communities that they say that they're trying

00:45:22.960 to protect. And it's the same thing with changing these holidays. I mean, this is not going to do

00:45:28.180 anything for these communities at all. And these communities are really struggling because of

00:45:33.820 choices in some cases, but also because of policy decisions by our lawmakers who think that doing and

00:45:40.260 advocating for things that sound good but are not good is the way to go. And Christians should reject 1.00

00:45:46.040 that. Like, if we love our neighbor, then we want policies that even if they sound, they don't have

00:45:52.520 the same loving or compassionate sound to them like, oh, we're going to help homeless people by allowing

00:46:02.360 them to just like prop up tents in this park. If conservatives really care about the homeless 0.98

00:46:08.800 population, if we really care about people in poverty, we are not going to advocate for the policies that

00:46:14.860 incentivize those kinds of behaviors that we know is actually destructive, not just to them, but also the

00:46:20.140 communities in which they reside. And so it just requires thinking a little bit harder about everything

00:46:26.180 that sounds good and asking the question, but is it really good?

00:46:40.600 All right, that's really all I have time for today. And there's, man, there's like a million and ten

00:46:48.080 other things that I wanted to talk about. Okay, let me just say, let me just talk about this for a second

00:46:53.880 because I don't know when I'm going to be able to fit it in this week. And I wish I would have talked about

00:46:57.520 it last week. And I or the week before last when I talked about this story, but I just wanted to give a

00:47:03.880 shout out to John MacArthur. Because he's incredible. And I love his heart for the truth. I love his heart for

00:47:11.740 repentance. I love his earnestness and his strength and his boldness and the fact that he does not equivocate at all

00:47:21.340 on the truth and the gospel, and that he is willing to call people in power to repentance. So a couple weeks ago,

00:47:27.900 we talked about Gavin Newsom, how he's doing this horribly wicked, a blasphemous thing of posting these billboards in

00:47:36.140 red states to try to get people to move back to California. And he's advertising for abortion. And he's saying,

00:47:42.080 hey, we'll let you kill your baby. And he's not just doing that. That would be wicked enough. But he is also using a 1.00

00:47:49.020 Bible verse, love your neighbor as yourself. And we broke down exactly why that's wrong. We'll link that episode. Just

00:47:56.040 absolutely atrocious stuff, atrocious, blasphemous stuff. And John MacArthur said, look, that is that's too far. I am. He said, I am.

00:48:06.620 Desperately worried about the eternal fate of Gavin Newsom. Of course, he has been concerned about his

00:48:12.560 eternal fate for a long time, but he felt a prompting by the Holy Spirit and by the Word of God to simply

00:48:18.740 call him out. So this was at the end of September, he sent him this letter. And maybe you've read it,

00:48:25.660 but I just want to read you some of this. It was a scathing letter to Gavin Newsom, but also

00:48:32.540 just the kind of truth and love balance that all of us should strive for. So I won't read the whole

00:48:39.140 thing. But he says, Sir, Almighty God says in his word, righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a

00:48:46.440 disgrace to any people. Scripture also teaches that it is the chief duty of any civic leader to reward

00:48:51.440 those who do well and punish evildoers. Romans 13, 1 through 7. You have not only failed in that

00:48:57.520 responsibility. You routinely turn it on its head, rewarding evildoers and punishing the

00:49:03.500 righteous. The Word of God pronounces judgment on those who call evil good and good evil. And yet

00:49:08.340 many of your policies reflect this unholy upside down view of honor and morality. He goes on later

00:49:15.880 to say, in mid-September, you revealed to the entire nation how thoroughly rebellious against God you are

00:49:20.880 when you sponsored billboards across America promoting the slaughter of children whom he creates 0.83

00:49:25.500 in the womb. You further compounded the wickedness of that murderous campaign with a reprehensible act

00:49:30.740 of gross blasphemy, quoting the very words of Jesus from Mark 12, 31. It goes on to say,

00:49:36.640 My concern, Governor Newsom, is that your own soul lies in grave eternal peril. Each one of us will give

00:49:41.980 an account of himself to God. One day, not very long from now, you will face that reality. Nothing more

00:49:48.500 is certain. You will stand in the presence of the Holy God who created you, who is your judge,

00:49:52.760 and he will demand that you give an account for how you have flouted his authority in your governing

00:49:57.480 and how you have twisted his own holy word to rationalize it. As you look over the precipice of

00:50:03.560 eternity, what will your answer be? When you look ahead of you and see that nothing awaits you but

00:50:08.920 eternal misery, the just punishment for your sins, what will all the clever rationalizations and

00:50:14.420 political talking points avail for you then? And by then, it will be too late for any remedy or

00:50:19.580 redemption. It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

00:50:25.340 My plea to you, sir, is that you would not let it come to that, that you would not go

00:50:29.520 to that day of judgment apart from receiving forgiveness and righteousness through faith

00:50:34.280 in Christ alone. Our church and countless Christians nationwide are praying for your full

00:50:39.280 repentance. Please respond to the gospel. Forsake the path of wickedness you have pursued all your

00:50:43.820 life. Turn to Christ. Ask for forgiveness and use your office to advance the cause of righteousness

00:50:48.940 as is your duty instead of undermining it as has been your pattern. Yes and amen. This is speaking

00:50:55.860 the truth in love. And I just wanted to end with that, and I guess that it probably does come full

00:50:59.920 circle with what we talked about in the beginning, that in all the craziness that we talked about today

00:51:04.040 and talk about every day, God is still using Christians to win hearts and to change minds. And that is our

00:51:11.340 role, speaking the truth in love to people around us, but also people in power.

00:51:25.740 All right, that's all we've got time for today. Thank you guys so much for listening. There's so

00:51:30.820 much more, so much more that we're going to discuss over the next couple days. So buckle up, let me know

00:51:36.400 if there's anything specific that you want me to discuss this week, and I will see you guys back

00:51:42.240 here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 11, 2022

Ep 689 ｜ Kanye, White Lives Matter & John MacArthur’s Fiery Rebuke

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