Ep 689 ｜ Kanye, White Lives Matter & John MacArthur’s Fiery Rebuke
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Summary
I lost my voice last week and it was the weirdest thing. I m back and ready to talk about it and give you some tips and tricks on how to get over it! Thanks for listening and Happy Tuesday!
Transcript
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Kanye West says white lives matter, baby lives matter, and also tweets something about Jewish
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people. Also, continuing calls to rename Columbus Day will do nothing to help the serious problems
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in indigenous communities, but such is the stupidity and wickedness of virtue signaling.
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And John MacArthur shows Christians how to truly and righteously speak truth to power in his
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scathing statement to Gavin Newsom. All of this and some gospel encouragement today. This episode
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is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com. All right, y'all. Happy
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Tuesday. I am so glad to finally be back. If you are not following me on Instagram, then you may not
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know the reason why we had replays all last week on Relatable and a replay yesterday is because I had
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laryngitis and I completely lost my voice. It was the weirdest thing. It was the weirdest thing. I've
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never had laryngitis before. You would think in my line of work with as much as I talk that I would
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get laryngitis often, but I've never lost my voice actually. And I had a cold, which apparently in
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talking to a lot of you, this is going around this like seven day nasty cold where people are losing
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their voice. It's almost like the flu. I don't know if it's COVID. I didn't get tested for COVID,
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but my whole family has had it over the past month. It was kind of a cascade. It started with our
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youngest and then my husband got it and then my oldest got it. And I was bragging. I was like,
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wow, my immune system, the mom immune system. It's amazing. I am totally protected against this.
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I've been traveling a lot in the month of September and I was just, I was amazed that I
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had not gotten this. And I thought that I was in the clear. And then y'all pride comes before the fall
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because I did end up getting it. But here's how this cold goes. And maybe this will help you if
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you're navigating this yourself or with your family. It starts out like a normal cold. And
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this seems to be the experience of a lot of people, not just me and not just my family, but
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it's, it starts out just like runny nose, headache, normal kind of cold thing. And those kinds of colds
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had plenty of them. They last two to three days, especially those that are just kind of seasonal as
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school starts back. It's just something that happens. However, this, you think it's going to last two
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to three days, you start feeling better around day three. For me, it started not last Thursday,
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but the Thursday before I was in Indianapolis. And you know, all of a sudden when something just kind
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of hits you and you're like, Oh, I feel the sickness coming like a freight train. And I felt that a couple,
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a couple of weeks ago, a couple of Thursdays ago. And then a couple of days later, I felt better.
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I was going to work out. I was good. And then by Tuesday, I went totally downhill by Monday. I
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thought that I was on the up and up. I thought I was getting better. And then by Tuesday, I woke up
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and I had no voice. And this has never happened to me. It is the weirdest feeling if you've ever
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lost your voice before. It's I mean, it's like losing a sense. It's like going blind or going deaf.
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You really feel like you can't function in the world. And when I say that I lost my voice,
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and some of you heard me when I was starting to lose my voice on Instagram, because I put a story
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up saying, sorry, no show today. I can barely talk. But it got to the point to where I literally could
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not get a sound out. It was just it was a whisper. This is all I could do. And if you've got kids,
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especially if you've got little kids that you're always trying to wrangle and you're trying to
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talk to and especially, you know, in those stressful moments and like meltdowns and you're in a hurry to
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try to, you know, get out the door, you really need your voice. You really need to be able to
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communicate, of course, in all segments of life, but especially when you have a little team of kids
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that you are trying to get, you know, get them to push the ball down the field figuratively. And so
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that was so tough. I had to whisper constantly and you're not supposed to whisper with laryngitis.
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But anyway, the part that maybe is helpful is knowing that it's kind of a seven day timeline,
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the thing that seems to be going around. Some people have a really bad cough and some people
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are losing their voice entirely. I used a humidifier. I drank lots of tea. People recommended
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throat coat. And I drank that religiously for two to three days. I think you can just look it up
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online. I'm sure you can get it at your local grocery store, too. And honey, lemon gargled with
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salt water. My throat was killing me for a couple of days. And that's just, you know, absolutely
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miserable. I did finally take some pain reliever. That was a game changer. I know that, you know,
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there are bad effects to things like ibuprofen and Tylenol, but I just had to do it. And that
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was super helpful. Try to drink lots of water. Did I already say I used a humidifier? If you don't do
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that, then I do recommend that. So that's basically what I did. And I rested. And I did feel like God was
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forcing me to rest. Because as I said, in September, and even into October, it was go,
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go, go for me. It was my busiest travel month that I've had probably since 2018. Because so many
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organizations are just now having their fundraising events and opening back up. And so I've had the
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privilege of traveling the country. And I'm so thankful for that. But I did realize about halfway
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through the month of September that I overcommitted myself, that I said yes, over the course of the
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past two years, to all these organizations that have been reaching out to me and asking me to come
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speak, not realizing how congested of a month that I would have and how difficult that would be. And
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sometimes I get to bring my family. And so we make it work. And sometimes they're super quick trips.
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But no matter what, it still takes it out of you. And I realized halfway through September,
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dang it, I said yes to too many things. And while every single opportunity is a privilege,
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it's an honor to be able to speak to you guys and to be able to talk with you and hug you and
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pray with you and all of those things. I absolutely love meeting relatable listeners. It's still really
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hard. And I knew at some point that I was like, okay, I've got to take a break. I've just got to take
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a break. But I had no intention of taking a week off from my podcast. That wasn't even an option I
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had in my head. And yet, God basically told me, hey, yeah, this is the week that you're going to
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take a break. And you're literally not going to have an option. Because if I had had any other
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sickness, and I hadn't lost my voice, I would have toughed it out. I wouldn't have even thought about
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it. If I had just had like the sniffles or a cough or something, I would have said, well,
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I'm still going to go in. I'm still going to do these 30 minute, I'll just do 30 minute episodes,
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or I'll do an interview. But because I literally could not talk, I couldn't do that. I was
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forced to rest. And I'm thankful for that. Now I had a lot of people at the organizations that I
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spoke to over the weekend praying for me and praying that my voice would come back. I spoke
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at a pro-life event for live action in Santa Monica, California on Saturday night. It was an
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amazing event, such a privilege. And then yesterday, I was in Scottsdale talking to a group of amazing
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believers there just about engaging in the culture and raising up kids and grandkids
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in this kind of crazy chaotic world that we live in using scripture. And my voice was back for both
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of those things. And so I'm thankful for that. I'm thankful for the prayers of my fellow saints that
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carried me through. And I'm very thankful to be back now. But I'm also grateful that the Lord gave me
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last week to rest and to reset and that he used sickness, something that maybe Satan meant for evil.
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The Lord used in a redemptive and a good way to take care of me. You know, we don't think about
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things like sickness as a way that the Lord may actually be caring for your health. Isn't that
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interesting? That for the sake of health and for the sake of my well-being, that the Lord allowed me to
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become sick. And so something that could just be seen as a misfortune or why me? Why would this
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happen to me? Oh, I'm so sad, self-pity. I actually can rejoice in and be thankful for
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because the Lord, who is my shepherd, used it to care for me. And so I'm thankful for that. But I
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have to say, I am very glad. I'm very glad to have my voice back because we have a lot to talk about
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today. We have a lot to talk about. I asked you guys what you wanted to hear from me on, and I could
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talk to you for five hours about all of those things. We literally, we were laughing before we
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started. The document that we have that we have been just kind of building over the past week or
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so while I've been out, I just kind of send stories to my team and we add it to a document. It's 87
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pages. So, I mean, we could be here for 87 hours. We could do a marathon-relatable podcast episode,
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but I won't do that to you. We'll just talk about a few things. Before I get into it,
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I'll read an ad. But I do just want to say also, and this is what I say whenever I've been
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traveling, is that I'm always so encouraged when I do travel and when I speak to Christians,
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not just when I'm up on stage, but when I get to have the conversations afterwards,
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which I very often do, and I get to hear from you guys. I get to hear not just how God is used
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relatable in your life or you're not enough and that's okay in your life, but also just how God is
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using you and how he's using your platform, whether you have a million followers or you have 10
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followers or whether you're a stay-at-home mom or whether you're working. I love hearing what God
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is doing in your life and through your life. And as I say so often, God is on the move. He is working,
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doing incredible things for his own glory and the good of other people through the often unseen and
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unsung obedience of Christians. And it's easy to look at the headlines, what's trending on Twitter
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and where our country is headed, and understandably be anxious and feel like, wow, everything is going
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to hell in a handbasket. Things are only getting worse. But what I'm always reminded of when I am
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surrounded by believers is that God's ultimate eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch,
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that he is every day advancing his kingdom, that he is every day sharing the gospel through the lives
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and the words of believers. That yes, today is scary and we face in some ways new threats, in some
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ways threats and sins and evils that have always been around, but just manifest itself in new ways
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today. There's really nothing new under the sun. Today just looks like Romans 1 and Romans was written
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thousands and thousands of years ago at this point. And so just as God was then, God is now using his
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Holy Spirit to work through believers to do incredible things for his glory. He is saving lives. He is
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saving souls. He is changing hearts. He is changing minds. He is activating Christians to be his hands and
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feet, to be his feet, to be his aroma, to be his ambassadors. And every day, Christians are making
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the world around them better by not just speaking the truth in love, but also by doing what other people
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won't, by going to the least of these and the most vulnerable and serving them in ways that will never
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get recognition or fame or acceptance, praise by the world, and yet is right and is pleasing in the
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eyes of the Lord. That's happening every day. And we are a part of that simply by doing the next
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right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. That is how God is working through
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believers and he is on his throne. Totally and completely sovereign. Power belongs to God. I think
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that's Psalm 65 11. I'll look it up as I'm talking. But power belongs to God. Authority belongs to God.
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That is not Psalm 65 11. I will read you Psalm 65 11 right now. It's much less inspiring than that.
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Just looked it up on Bible Gateway. You crown the year with your bounty. Your wagon tracks overflow with
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abundance. That's cool too. Not exactly what I'm talking about. So I should probably stick to
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references that I know. Let's see. Power belongs to God. Okay. Close, close, really close.
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Psalm 62 11. Once God has spoken, twice have I heard this, that power belongs to God. So power
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doesn't belong to Joe Biden. Power doesn't belong to Donald Trump. Power doesn't belong to the Democrat
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Party. Power doesn't belong to the DOJ. Power doesn't belong to the Republican Party. It doesn't
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belong to Xi Jinping. It doesn't belong to Vladimir Putin. It doesn't belong to the FBI. It doesn't belong
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to any of these worldly institutions. And while governments have been instituted by God and
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certainly have their purpose to carry out righteousness and both righteous wrath on the
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wrongdoer, ultimately power belongs to God. Fate belongs to God. Nothing can thwart God's will.
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Job 42 2. And I'm sure about that reference. That God is totally and completely sovereign and on
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his throne. And one day, Jesus is King will not just be a belief that we have in our heads as
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Christians, but will be a reality that everyone sees and every knee will bow, every tongue will confess
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that Jesus Christ is Lord. Now, speaking of Jesus is King, that was a song that Kanye West wrote and
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published a few years ago when Christians got on the Kanye train and said, myself included,
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wow, this is awesome. He is going to be such a light for the gospel. And it's been an interesting
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road since that happened. And we've still got some interesting occurrences happening with Kanye West
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Okay, let's talk about Kanye West, White Lives Matter, and conservatives and even Christians
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turbulent love affair with Kanye. So Kanye, yay, I think he legally changed his name recently,
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made headlines the other day, when he posted a picture of himself with Candace Owens. And I think
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they're in Paris, and they're facing away from the camera. And on the back of these long sleeve shirts
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that apparently Kanye West designed because he is a fashion designer, it said a White Lives Matter
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written on the back. And obviously, they knew that this was going to be controversial. And because
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people on the left say that this is a loaded phrase, that it's white supremacist, that it's
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white nationalist, and they knew that it was going to draw attention. And Kanye had been in the news
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recently, or people have been talking about him, at least on social media recently, because he randomly
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will do this every few months, he'll get on Instagram, and he'll start like posting his beef with people,
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or he'll get on Twitter. He hadn't been on Twitter in a while. But he'll post conversations that he has
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with people, whether it's like Kim Kardashian, or these other artists, or celebrities, or fashion
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designers, or corporations that honestly, most of them, I don't even know. And he'll, he'll just kind
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of start getting in the conversation again. And so that had been happening for a little bit. And then he
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posted this picture. And I mean, people freaked out, like freaked out left wing media figures,
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flipped on social media, calling him dangerous, perpetuated and extremist, white supremacist
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theology. You hear that? He's a white supremacist. Him and Candace Owens are white supremacists,
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apparently. And then he went on Tucker Carlson's show last week, which I was really excited about.
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I mean, I just thought it was going to be such an interesting dynamic. And so I tuned in, there were
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two nights of this interview, I tuned into the first night. And right away, like he said some awesome
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things about being pro-life. And the value of babies in the womb, he had, he came from Paris
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Fashion Week, whatever that is, I'm still like unclear about what that even is. But apparently,
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he like he was in LA. And he got off the plane to talk to Kanye West. And on his little name tag from
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Paris Fashion Week, he had a picture of a sonogram and saying that he is pro-life. He cares about life
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inside the womb. Awesome. You do not hear that from celebrities. He also talked about God. Not
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totally sure about some of his comments. He said something along the lines of like, you might not
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believe in God, but God believes in you. Not really sure what exactly that means and the theological
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soundness of it, but whatever. He talked about his faith. I appreciate that. Honestly, he said a bunch
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of stuff that I do not understand. Like I don't comprehend it because they're about the fashion
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world and the Kardashians and Hollywood. And I'm just not really inundated in those spheres. And I
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know there's a lot of people that say that they totally follow and can connect everything that
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Kanye says. And they probably can. Maybe they've been following him for a really long time or they
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just understand how his brain works. I personally don't have that superpower. I'm just going to say
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that. Like I don't have that superpower. I need an interpreter sometimes. I struggle to connect the
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dots in a lot of what he says. However, I do appreciate, this is what I do appreciate about
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Kanye West, that he is not your typical talking point spouting brainless celebrity who falls in line
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with what Hollywood tells artists and especially black artists what they have to say in order to be
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authentically black or empathetic or whatever it is about things like abortion or the family,
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et cetera. Like at least he is actually thinking about these things and he is willing to say,
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huh, what everyone says on my side, on my political side and in my Hollywood and fashion
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sphere that I have to say or think about these things. I don't know if I agree with that. I'm not
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sure about that. And I'm willing to drive a wedge between myself and these relationships.
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And the Hollywood elite and saying what I really think. At least he's willing to do that because
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a lot of people aren't. So in the, if nothing else, he is an individual and there is something to
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admire and to respect about that. And then he also says some things that make me go,
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hmm, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. So over, over the weekend, he said, he posted a tweet
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that got him kicked off Twitter. He said, I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going
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DEATHCON3 on Jewish people, Jewish people in all caps. The funny thing is I actually can't be
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anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jew. Also, you guys have toyed with me and tried to
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blackball anyone, whoever poses your agenda. I have no idea what this means. Doesn't sound good.
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Does it sound good? Doesn't sound good to me. When he says black people are the real Jewish people,
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this is not just like a random comment. This is actually a belief of the black supremacist cult
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called the black Hebrew Israelites. They believe that they are God's real chosen people and that
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quote unquote white Jews are fakes who have stolen their divine heritage. And so what he is repeating
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here, he actually is now repeating a talking point from a particular radical group. And this got him,
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as I said, suspended from Twitter. Weird statement, bad statement. I just don't know what he meant by
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it. Now, I did get a kick out of many on the left decrying anti-Semitism like John Legend and AOC.
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They're calling out Kanye West because of his anti-Semitism, but they have no problem with it when
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it comes to the blatant Jew hatred on their own side from the likes of people like Ilhan Omar,
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Rashida Tlaib, and who will not talk about the fact that attacks on Jewish communities in places
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like New York are very common. They happen all the time and are almost always perpetrated by black
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Americans. Like they won't talk about that. That is likely happening in AOC's district. I've never
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seen her talk about that, that that actually seems to be a problem, that those two communities,
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when they live together, very often seem to be at odds. And the Hasidic Jews are typically the
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victims there. Like no one really wants to say that out loud because it only ever can be conservatives
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or the right wing that are the enemies of these minority groups. But that's just not how it shakes
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out in reality. So, I mean, they're going against Kanye West for what they're saying is an anti-Semitic
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attack. They're not willing to call it out when it's inconvenient to their narrative or when it's
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coming from their own side, when it's coming from their own party. Now, that said, I mean, I agree with a
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lot of the criticism. It was a very, I mean, in Kanye's way, it seemed like a very random thing
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out of the blue for him to say. This is also Kanye West. He says inspiring things. He says
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interesting things. He also says like very erratic things that make you go, what? No, no, no. And here's
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what happens every few months. Kanye says something that conservatives like and we cheer. And I think
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a lot of us assume that, OK, now he's like on our side. Now he is a Republican or he is a conservative
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or I mean, I had super high hopes of him being like a reformed Christian a few years ago because he came
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out and he came out as, you know, a believer, as truly born again. And a lot of his theology seemed
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really sound that it seemed like he was under the tutelage of some really solid teachers in
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California. I think it was a pastor who went to John MacArthur's Master Seminary. And so I was
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super excited about that. And he came out with this Christian album that sounded really good,
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that seemed to have pretty good theology. And then he'll say something that's surprising,
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like he'll associate with Joel Osteen or he will make comments that just make you scratch your head
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or say, oh, I just that's not no. And so I think that the lesson is because then conservatives or
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Christians get embarrassed that they like fully endorsed him as an entire person and everything
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that he says. And so they'll back away from it. But I think what we just need to realize is that
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conservatives in our desperation to be accepted by mainstream culture, because conservatives are so
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tired of getting beat up on, they're so tired of being at odds with every single entity, whether it's
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academia or the public education system or the federal government or Hollywood or mainstream media
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or big tech, that they're like desperately looking for someone who is in the mainstream, who has
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cultural capital, who is cool to be their champion, to be on their side. And that can then lead to a lack
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of discernment in the people that the right decides to lionize. And I think we have to be really careful
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about that. I think we would do very well to hesitate before hoisting up any celebrity as a
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hero. But we as conservatives, I mean, we do this a lot. As I said, we kind of drool with excitement when
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a mainstream person says something that we agree with. And then we just like quietly back away like
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Bart Simpson into the hedges when we realize that that person isn't doesn't really share our worldview and
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that what they said was a one off. So I think it's fine. I think it's fine to applaud when anyone says
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something that is not communist. And that has the power to wake people up has the power to show people
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how silly and contradictory progressivism is has the power to actually shift the Overton window, whether
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that's Dave Chappelle or Joe Rogan or Kanye West or anyone that may not really be on our side fully. But they
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have such a large platform that them even being heterodox and even them bucking the system a little bit can
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be really helpful. I think it's totally fine to applaud and to be happy about that. I've written articles about
00:25:59.460
why I think it's good that people like Dave Chappelle push back against the craziness of gender ideology. And I feel the
00:26:05.260
same about this. But I just think conservatives and Christians also just need to be careful before
00:26:10.760
saying, Oh, this is our guy, we're going to put him on a pedestal. He represents everything that I
00:26:15.920
believe he's going to be our champion, he's going to lead us into battle. Well, that's probably just not
00:26:21.740
it's probably just not going to happen. So we might just need to cool our jets a little bit on that. And
00:26:27.180
that's okay. Like we don't need, we don't need a celebrity champion. We don't need a representative
00:26:33.860
from Hollywood or the mainstream at all to continue doing what we are doing, which is just saying and
00:26:39.600
representing and fighting for what is true and keep, we can keep trying to open people's eyes because
00:26:45.800
that's effective too. All right, I want to make this, I just want to make a quick comment about this
00:27:02.720
phrase white lives matter. I understand it's controversial. And the reason people say it's
00:27:06.460
controversial is because they say white lives are already recognized. They're already protected.
00:27:13.120
They already have insulation. They already have privilege. It's you can say black lives matter
00:27:17.700
because people and the system don't believe that black lives matter and black lives are devalued in
00:27:22.920
this country and they're systemically oppressed. There's institutional racism. So we have to say black
00:27:28.360
lives matter. So the police will stop killing black people. And that's, and that doesn't happen
00:27:33.660
to white people. White people already have all the privileges and rights in the world. You can say
00:27:38.200
Asian lives matter. You can say Hispanic lives matter. You can say indigenous people lives matter,
00:27:42.540
but you can't say white lives matter because that just shows some kind of white nationalism and white
00:27:47.100
supremacy. And we already live in a white supremacist country, which is absolute hogwash. It's absolute
00:27:54.220
hogwash. We just heard the vice president of the United States the other day saying when it comes to
00:27:58.260
disaster relief in Florida, that they are going to prioritize minority communities. So what does
00:28:05.440
that mean? That means that white people get it last. Sorry, white people, that maybe they live in a
00:28:10.820
community that has been more devastated by Hurricane Ian than a community with a larger black population.
00:28:17.800
You apparently, according to the federal government and according to Vice President Harris, you're going to
00:28:23.780
get disaster relief last. Now, of course, DeSantis and his team has said that's absolutely not happening.
00:28:29.540
But that's what the vice president said. We also saw that with the vaccine rollout, that vaccine that
00:28:34.020
they said was going to save people's lives in places like Chicago and in other major blue cities like
00:28:40.720
that. They said that they were going to prioritize BIPOC communities even before they were going to
00:28:45.500
prioritize older white Americans for the sake of equity. Of course, we see that with acceptance and
00:28:54.900
admissions for colleges as well. And so this idea that the only discrimination that exists in America
00:29:03.340
is against black and brown people and that white people have this kind of privilege that is insulating
00:29:11.680
them from discrimination. It's literally the opposite of what is true. It is. And so while I'm not saying that
00:29:22.480
we should be walking around saying white lives matter or wearing shirts, I mean, I'm not saying that this is a
00:29:28.280
slogan or something that we need to put as a banner of any kind of movement, but to say that it is off limits
00:29:38.560
because it's white supremacist, but you can say every other kind of life matters. I mean, it's absolute
00:29:46.000
hogwash and it just doesn't speak to reality. We've also talked about the numbers when it comes to police
00:29:52.960
killings of black men and police killings of all kinds of people, all kinds of unarmed people, how the numbers
00:30:01.260
do not shake out to prove that the police is killing black people based on their race, that it's actually
00:30:10.300
proportionate to the crimes that are unfortunately committed in that community. And so that entire narrative
00:30:19.980
that we have to say black lives matter because black lives are not are not already valued in the society. That's just not true.
00:30:30.260
Plus the organization of black lives matter is fraudulent. It's used the money that many people
00:30:38.940
donated, donated millions and millions and millions of dollars to make themselves richer, not to better
00:30:45.040
communities in any way, not to help the people that they say are oppressed, but to buy their own
00:30:50.000
mansions in California. It has to do with their own power. That's what Marxists do. They said that
00:30:54.940
they're trained Marxists. That's what Marxists do. They claim to be fighting on behalf of the oppressed.
00:30:59.500
They swindle you for your money and then they use that money to get richer and to make sure that
00:31:09.740
they have power. They don't actually care about the people that they say that they're advocating for.
00:31:14.240
They use emotional manipulation and deceit in order to get you to donate money. And then I also wanted to
00:31:21.240
read this from someone who claims to be on the right when you're talking about, oh, we don't need to say
00:31:27.160
white lives matter because white lives are already valued in this country. Let me read you this
00:31:31.140
paragraph from Kevin Williamson, who used to write for National Review. This is from 2016. I think this
00:31:36.460
is one of the most offensive paragraphs that I've ever read. But this kind of thing, you can say this
00:31:41.000
kind of thing about white people in a way that you could never say about any other community without
00:31:44.980
absolutely getting lambasted. He said he's talking about these middle of the country,
00:31:52.040
you know, middle America, forgotten America, rural communities that Trump really championed and that
00:31:58.740
really helped him win in 2016. This is what Kevin Williamson had to say about that in 2016 in National
00:32:05.860
Review. The truth about these dysfunctional downscale communities is that they deserve to die. So we're
00:32:11.600
talking about, you know, hillbilly allergy type places. We're talking about Kentucky. We're talking
00:32:16.860
about Ohio. We're talking about these places that have been gutted because both Republicans and
00:32:20.980
Democrats have taken the manufacturing jobs in those communities and shipped them off to China.
00:32:26.580
And so Kevin Williamson says, economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they're indefensible.
00:32:31.060
Forget all your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap. Forget your sanctimony about struggling
00:32:35.840
rust belt factory towns and your conspiracy theories about the wily oriental stealing our jobs.
00:32:40.920
It's what? It's not a conspiracy theory that those jobs have been sent over to China, but whatever.
00:32:47.560
Forget your GD, gypsum. And if he has a problem with that, forget Ed Burke too. The white American
00:32:54.440
underclass is enthralled to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used
00:32:59.900
heroin needles. Donald Trump's speeches make them feel good. So does Oxycontin. What they need isn't
00:33:05.860
analgesics, literal or political. They need real opportunity, which means that they need real
00:33:13.120
change, which means that they need U-Haul. So he's talking about these white working class communities
00:33:20.020
in middle America. He's making fun of the fact that there are addiction issues largely because
00:33:25.140
of the drugs that are imported from overseas, but also overprescribed by doctors. And also because of the
00:33:32.240
purposelessness and the misery that has been brought on by a lack of economic opportunity and mobility in
00:33:37.920
those areas because of exporting the jobs that were once theirs to places like China, he's making fun of
00:33:45.100
that. He's saying that it's good that this white working class in these places are falling apart and
00:33:51.960
that it absolutely should be good. It doesn't matter what happens to them. And it doesn't matter that
00:33:56.040
Donald Trump is their champion. It's basically just a conspiracy theory that we shouldn't care
00:34:00.960
about. Now imagine someone writing that about any other community in this country. You can't do it.
00:34:09.020
You can't do it. And the fact of the matter is the people that are represented in books like
00:34:12.460
Hillbilly Elegy, people don't care about them. Those white lives don't matter to politicians,
00:34:18.460
to people in the media. You're not allowed to talk about the problems that may be specific to the
00:34:23.900
white working class. And so maybe someone's saying white lives matter. Maybe it does carry a little
00:34:30.520
bit of weight when you think about the communities that have been largely forgotten and abandoned
00:34:35.760
and are now destitute because of people who won't champion them and who won't represent them and who are
00:34:44.200
willing to demonize them in the pages of the National Review in a way that you could not demonize
00:34:50.300
any other community and still have a job. So I'm just saying maybe it's not right to say that a phrase
00:34:58.080
like that is only extremist and is only radical and is only racist. Maybe it is simply okay to say
00:35:07.320
that all lives matter. Like maybe we should just be saying, you know what, no matter what your skin
00:35:12.380
color is, you're made in the image of God. And you should have equal rights. You have equal value.
00:35:20.180
That does not mean that you will have equal outcomes. That doesn't mean that we try to hold
00:35:26.940
back one group and hoist up another group in the hopes that we'll finally have equal outcomes. That's
00:35:32.960
just impossible. But maybe it's okay to say that white lives matter and that everyone who,
00:35:41.440
that black lives matter, that Hispanic lives matter, whatever. Maybe it's okay to just say that and
00:35:47.460
we see how pitting groups against each other doesn't really work out very well. And if Kanye West and
00:35:53.380
Candace Owens, by wearing that, kind of started that conversation and got people to talk about that,
00:35:58.500
like, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. So those just, I just wanted to mention some thoughts
00:36:11.440
Okay. Speaking of all of this, speaking of all of this, let me say something about Columbus Day. So
00:36:21.540
people are pushing to have Columbus Day removed as a holiday because when Columbus discovered,
00:36:28.740
quote unquote, America, that led to all kinds of atrocities, truly. Tragedies, disease,
00:36:37.800
of the systemic killing of Native Americans, some things that we can truly say, wow, that is atrocious
00:36:44.540
and that is really sad. And I'm really sad for the innocent victims of that. But apparently we're
00:36:50.120
just supposed to pretend like Columbus discovering America has not led to anything good, that there is
00:36:57.060
nothing worth celebrating there, that it would have been better if America had never been discovered
00:37:02.380
and the indigenous people in America. It would have been just better off if they had been completely
00:37:10.140
left alone because they were living these wonderful, peaceful lives before civilization came along.
00:37:17.320
And that is just a myth. The history of the world is conquest. All of us have ancestors that were
00:37:23.940
conquered and probably were conquerors at one point. All of us have ancestors that were enslavers
00:37:29.980
and enslaved at one point. That is the history of the world. That all of us come from a lineage of
00:37:35.740
both oppressors and the oppressed. This idea that only white Europeans have been oppressors and all the
00:37:42.280
black brown minorities of the world have always just been oppressed and been trying to live
00:37:47.520
peaceably. But the white man keeps bringing them down. That is a historical nonsense. That is not at
00:37:52.820
all the history of the world. And actually recognizing that can bring us reconciliation and unity today
00:37:59.540
when we recognize that we do not carry either the guilt or the shame of our ancestors. But we have an
00:38:06.280
opportunity today to make the lives of those around us better and to simply be kind to the people
00:38:14.340
who God has placed in our lives, no matter what their ancestry is. But because people profit off of a
00:38:21.440
gospel of grievance because people, politicians, pastors gain power from preaching racial division and
00:38:30.180
ancestral guilt and trauma and shame, unfortunately, those seeds of division are reaping really awful theology
00:38:39.600
and awful political ideology today. The reality is, as I said, that there have been both conquerors and the
00:38:49.720
conquered. And that was also true in Native America before Christopher Columbus came along and said,
00:38:56.960
hey, this should probably be a civilization one day. This idea that Native Americans were living these
00:39:04.640
peaceful lives and they just got along and they were happy with their own land and they were happy
00:39:09.260
to allow other tribes to live in their own land and that everything was all good is just a lie. That is
00:39:15.920
a myth. The reality is, is that there was child sacrifice. There was torture. There was bloodshed. There was
00:39:24.440
tribal warfare. There was conquering. There was fighting before Christopher Columbus came along. And so it's not like
00:39:34.460
he disrupted this peaceful nation. The fact is, there was violence and torment and all kinds of atrocities that
00:39:42.360
were already happening in Native America. And then, yes, there were also atrocities that were perpetrated by
00:39:49.320
the Europeans who then came to America. And so I don't think that we need to defend those atrocities at
00:39:55.940
all. But I do think that we can say in the long run, I'm really thankful for civilization. Like in the long run,
00:40:01.760
I'm very thankful for the West. I'm very thankful for Western civilization and what it has accomplished
00:40:08.380
in the way of human rights and what it has accomplished in the way of prosperity and freedom
00:40:14.380
for a lot of people. Naomi Riley, whom I've had on this show before to talk about the problems with CPS,
00:40:20.740
the problems are not what I thought and maybe not what you think either. I'll link that episode.
00:40:27.960
She also wrote a book called The New Trail of Tears, and she looks at the problems on Indian reservations
00:40:35.720
today. And the reality is, is that these communities face problems that are really never talked about.
00:40:45.300
It's insanely high rates of alcoholism, of drug addiction, of child abuse, terrible child abuse,
00:40:58.540
and neglect that goes on on these reservations. Homicide, crime, assault, rape, extremely high.
00:41:09.120
And the problem is, is that the Native Americans that live on these reservations are almost completely
00:41:16.100
immune to the law. That is how our law is set up in the name of land back and the name of social justice
00:41:23.620
and the name of equity. Native Americans do not have to meet the same legal standards or have the same
00:41:32.280
accountability in many cases as people who do not live in these territories. And that is really bad
00:41:39.860
for victims. That's really bad for the women and children who bear the brunt of that kind of
00:41:46.800
criminality that just goes on with impunity, especially the children there. Really, there is nothing
00:41:55.100
that the state can do. In some cases, like in the state of Oklahoma, the law enforcement, their hands are
00:42:01.600
completely tied. The state and local officials, they can't do anything to protect these kids in some
00:42:07.840
cases. Not in all cases. I'm not saying they're completely immune all the time from the law,
00:42:12.280
but there is a lot of criminality and abuse that is allowed to go on on these reservations because
00:42:21.000
in the name of reparations, the government in the United States has decided that they don't have to
00:42:27.460
play by the same rules, that they get special privileges for pot and for casinos and gambling.
00:42:36.840
And this does not help these communities. And so changing the name of Columbus Day to Indigenous
00:42:43.800
People's Day, carving out these special privileges for gambling and casinos and pot shops and making sure
00:42:52.540
that the people committing crimes on these reservations are not held accountable. None of
00:42:58.420
these things, while done apparently in the name of social justice, are going to help these communities
00:43:04.280
at all. It's virtue signaling. It's performative activism. It's not actually caring for the people,
00:43:11.320
especially the children that are suffering there. It does the opposite because that's what social
00:43:16.920
justice is and does. Social justice sounds good. Policies that apparently help the homeless,
00:43:23.620
policies that help the poor that come from the left, policies that are supposedly helping the
00:43:29.920
marginalized and helping Black and brown people and immigrants always end up just incentivizing
00:43:36.480
bad behavior and destroying the very communities that they say that they're trying to help. And that
00:43:41.480
is true when it comes to the policies around Native American reservations. And so changing Columbus Day
00:43:48.320
to Indigenous People's Day will do absolutely nothing for these communities. Absolutely nothing.
00:43:56.760
And that is the problem with virtue signaling is that it helps people at the top feel better while
00:44:01.520
never having to actually do anything, ever having to sacrifice, ever having to get off their couch.
00:44:07.780
And in that way, it's really wicked. It's really hypocritical. And it's very Pharisaical when you
00:44:13.280
think about who the Pharisees were. They wanted to perform acts of superficial righteousness, but Jesus
00:44:18.920
called them whitewashed tombs. On the inside, they were dead and decaying, even while on the outside,
00:44:25.100
they looked really nice. And they hoisted themselves up as these kind of righteous heroes. And they set this
00:44:33.500
standard of hollow righteousness that they knew the regular Jew could never meet. And Jesus said,
00:44:41.420
no, you're a brood of vipers. You're whitewashed tombs. You don't have the righteousness that is
00:44:47.060
pleasing to God because your heart is dead and cold. So it is with performative activism and with a virtue
00:44:54.100
signaling. I mean, that's what the whole Black Lives Matter organization is, trying to seem righteous and
00:45:00.620
compassionate and empathetic on the outside and emotionally manipulate people into supporting
00:45:08.160
this organization and saying, you're not righteous. You're not loving. You're not Christian. You're not
00:45:12.780
compassionate unless you support us. And really, the inside of the Black Lives Matter organization is
00:45:18.520
dead and decaying because they don't do anything for the communities that they say that they're trying
00:45:22.960
to protect. And it's the same thing with changing these holidays. I mean, this is not going to do
00:45:28.180
anything for these communities at all. And these communities are really struggling because of
00:45:33.820
choices in some cases, but also because of policy decisions by our lawmakers who think that doing and
00:45:40.260
advocating for things that sound good but are not good is the way to go. And Christians should reject
00:45:46.040
that. Like, if we love our neighbor, then we want policies that even if they sound, they don't have
00:45:52.520
the same loving or compassionate sound to them like, oh, we're going to help homeless people by allowing
00:46:02.360
them to just like prop up tents in this park. If conservatives really care about the homeless
00:46:08.800
population, if we really care about people in poverty, we are not going to advocate for the policies that
00:46:14.860
incentivize those kinds of behaviors that we know is actually destructive, not just to them, but also the
00:46:20.140
communities in which they reside. And so it just requires thinking a little bit harder about everything
00:46:26.180
that sounds good and asking the question, but is it really good?
00:46:40.600
All right, that's really all I have time for today. And there's, man, there's like a million and ten
00:46:48.080
other things that I wanted to talk about. Okay, let me just say, let me just talk about this for a second
00:46:53.880
because I don't know when I'm going to be able to fit it in this week. And I wish I would have talked about
00:46:57.520
it last week. And I or the week before last when I talked about this story, but I just wanted to give a
00:47:03.880
shout out to John MacArthur. Because he's incredible. And I love his heart for the truth. I love his heart for
00:47:11.740
repentance. I love his earnestness and his strength and his boldness and the fact that he does not equivocate at all
00:47:21.340
on the truth and the gospel, and that he is willing to call people in power to repentance. So a couple weeks ago,
00:47:27.900
we talked about Gavin Newsom, how he's doing this horribly wicked, a blasphemous thing of posting these billboards in
00:47:36.140
red states to try to get people to move back to California. And he's advertising for abortion. And he's saying,
00:47:42.080
hey, we'll let you kill your baby. And he's not just doing that. That would be wicked enough. But he is also using a
00:47:49.020
Bible verse, love your neighbor as yourself. And we broke down exactly why that's wrong. We'll link that episode. Just
00:47:56.040
absolutely atrocious stuff, atrocious, blasphemous stuff. And John MacArthur said, look, that is that's too far. I am. He said, I am.
00:48:06.620
Desperately worried about the eternal fate of Gavin Newsom. Of course, he has been concerned about his
00:48:12.560
eternal fate for a long time, but he felt a prompting by the Holy Spirit and by the Word of God to simply
00:48:18.740
call him out. So this was at the end of September, he sent him this letter. And maybe you've read it,
00:48:25.660
but I just want to read you some of this. It was a scathing letter to Gavin Newsom, but also
00:48:32.540
just the kind of truth and love balance that all of us should strive for. So I won't read the whole
00:48:39.140
thing. But he says, Sir, Almighty God says in his word, righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a
00:48:46.440
disgrace to any people. Scripture also teaches that it is the chief duty of any civic leader to reward
00:48:51.440
those who do well and punish evildoers. Romans 13, 1 through 7. You have not only failed in that
00:48:57.520
responsibility. You routinely turn it on its head, rewarding evildoers and punishing the
00:49:03.500
righteous. The Word of God pronounces judgment on those who call evil good and good evil. And yet
00:49:08.340
many of your policies reflect this unholy upside down view of honor and morality. He goes on later
00:49:15.880
to say, in mid-September, you revealed to the entire nation how thoroughly rebellious against God you are
00:49:20.880
when you sponsored billboards across America promoting the slaughter of children whom he creates
00:49:25.500
in the womb. You further compounded the wickedness of that murderous campaign with a reprehensible act
00:49:30.740
of gross blasphemy, quoting the very words of Jesus from Mark 12, 31. It goes on to say,
00:49:36.640
My concern, Governor Newsom, is that your own soul lies in grave eternal peril. Each one of us will give
00:49:41.980
an account of himself to God. One day, not very long from now, you will face that reality. Nothing more
00:49:48.500
is certain. You will stand in the presence of the Holy God who created you, who is your judge,
00:49:52.760
and he will demand that you give an account for how you have flouted his authority in your governing
00:49:57.480
and how you have twisted his own holy word to rationalize it. As you look over the precipice of
00:50:03.560
eternity, what will your answer be? When you look ahead of you and see that nothing awaits you but
00:50:08.920
eternal misery, the just punishment for your sins, what will all the clever rationalizations and
00:50:14.420
political talking points avail for you then? And by then, it will be too late for any remedy or
00:50:19.580
redemption. It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
00:50:25.340
My plea to you, sir, is that you would not let it come to that, that you would not go
00:50:29.520
to that day of judgment apart from receiving forgiveness and righteousness through faith
00:50:34.280
in Christ alone. Our church and countless Christians nationwide are praying for your full
00:50:39.280
repentance. Please respond to the gospel. Forsake the path of wickedness you have pursued all your
00:50:43.820
life. Turn to Christ. Ask for forgiveness and use your office to advance the cause of righteousness
00:50:48.940
as is your duty instead of undermining it as has been your pattern. Yes and amen. This is speaking
00:50:55.860
the truth in love. And I just wanted to end with that, and I guess that it probably does come full
00:50:59.920
circle with what we talked about in the beginning, that in all the craziness that we talked about today
00:51:04.040
and talk about every day, God is still using Christians to win hearts and to change minds. And that is our
00:51:11.340
role, speaking the truth in love to people around us, but also people in power.
00:51:25.740
All right, that's all we've got time for today. Thank you guys so much for listening. There's so
00:51:30.820
much more, so much more that we're going to discuss over the next couple days. So buckle up, let me know
00:51:36.400
if there's anything specific that you want me to discuss this week, and I will see you guys back