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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
- October 13, 2022
Ep 691 | Pit Bulls, Assisted Suicide & a Message to Christian Schools
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Pit bulls. Is it the owner or the breed? I've got a lot of thoughts about this in light of some
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recent tragic stories about pit bull attacks. There's also a tragedy playing out across Canada
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as they increase access to assisted suicide even among minors. But first, I've got a message to
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parents and to teachers and administrators at Christian schools to stay the course and to make
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sure that your school is grounded on the Word of God when it comes to issues of justice and race and
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sexuality and gender. So that's what we'll start out with. This episode is brought to you by our
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friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com slash Allie. That's goodranchers.com slash Allie.
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Okay, y'all. I told you that we would be talking about something controversial. So buckle up. We'll
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get to that in a little bit. There are so many other things I want to talk about today. And even
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as I am speaking right now, I don't know everything that we are going to get into. A lot of it we'll
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have to cover next week because it requires in-depth analysis. And so I promise I will cover
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everything that you guys have been asking me to talk about for the past week and a half or so.
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If you haven't listened to yesterday's episode or the day before where I covered Kanye and Herschel
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Walker and all that stuff, then go ahead and do that because that answers a lot of the questions
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that you guys have been asking me on Instagram. All right, before we get into some of these subjects
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though, I do want to take a minute to just encourage you based on a conversation that I had
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yesterday with a friend. So this friend, kids go to private Christian school and there is a
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conversation going on from the administration to the parents of the students there about things like
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racial inclusion and so-called racial justice. And what this administration seems to be finding
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is that their attempts at diversifying the student body, their attempts at trying to appease the groups
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that are calling for greater representation and changed curriculum and for teachers to be talking to
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white students preemptively about the harm of racism and microaggressions. They're finding that this is not
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enough. That the demands from the group of people who basically want this school to be teaching the
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tenets and the principles of critical race theory are ever-increasing and they are overwhelming.
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And I'm listening to my friend describe this and she's not a very political person. She also happens
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to be a racial ethnic minority herself and she doesn't agree with a lot of the changes that are
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being made and what is being proposed by this private school in order to become more quote-unquote
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equitable and diverse. Doesn't agree with a lot of the complaints being brought forward about a so-called
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lack of representation or the need for curriculum to represent the racial makeup of the entire
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world. And so I know this school. I know this Christian school and I know some people that go
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there and what I need parents at Christian schools, what I need administrators and teachers
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at Christian schools to realize is that it will never be enough. It will never be enough. As soon
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as you start trying to teach students that white means oppressor and that black and brown means
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inherently oppressed, as soon as you try to equate obedience to God or righteousness or compassion or
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inclusion with superficial diversity quotas, you will find yourself going down a path that ends in
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submission to every single cultural demand that is placed on the table today. It will never be enough.
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As soon as you start playing that game, as soon as you move beyond as a Christian school saying,
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hey, everyone is made in the image of God and we are kind to everyone, no matter what you look like,
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no matter what your background is, no matter what your nationality is, no matter what your socioeconomic
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background, we are all equal in worth, equal in value. And according to the gospel of Jesus Christ,
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we are all equally dead in our sin or equally alive in Christ by grace through faith. We do not carry
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the historical shame of people who maybe looked like us hundreds of years ago. We don't even carry
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the sin, shame, and guilt of our own parents. As soon as you move beyond that biblical message
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and you start adopting the language of secular social justice, you start adopting the suggestions
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of people who insist that in order to be truly Christian, you have to treat the white students
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and the black students and the Hispanic students and the Asian students different based on the
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assumptions of the collective oppression of each group, I promise you that you will end up on a path
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to compromise. And while your intentions are pure and are loving and are compassionate and you just
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want to make everyone feel included and accepted, I understand that. As soon as you start treating
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students differently when it comes to what you warn them about, what you chastise them about,
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what you tell them that they can and cannot say based on their skin color, I promise you,
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you are on a path to compromise that will eventually end in you looking more like the world's definition
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of love and inclusion and compassion than the Bible's. Because what we know from scripture,
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what we see over and over again is that God hates partiality, that he does view us all with the same
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inherent value and worth. And we are judged not by our skin color, not by our nationality,
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but by who we are in Christ. And so I just encourage you, parents of students at Christian
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schools, I encourage you administrators and teachers at Christian schools, stick to that message.
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Stick to the gospel. Stick to the Bible's definition of justice, the Bible's definition of love,
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the Bible's definition of compassion, you trying to meet superficial diversity quotas simply to say
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that you do, simply to say that you have fewer white people or fewer Asian people, simply to try to get
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the applause of the world. I promise you it will simply never be enough. Diversity absolutely can be
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a strength. It can be a good thing. It can be something that is beneficial to any community, to any
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entity, to any school, or to any organization. But only, only if that diversity is brought together in a
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unified agreement on core principles. And in the case of Christian schools, on the gospel, diversity for the
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sake of diversity is not a strength that we see outlined in scripture. Like there is absolutely
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no qualification in scripture for the church or for the body of Christ that every local church or every
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local school has to have a particular kind of racial makeup in order to be righteous and holy.
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That's just not how it works. That's not God's standard of love. You stand on the gospel. You stand on
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scripture. You stand on what is true. You stand on what you know about what God thinks of human beings
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and you stand on that biblical definition of equality. You teach kindness, you teach impartiality,
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and you teach love. Do not get into the game of acquiescing to worldly demands for so-called social
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justice. And we'll, I'll link some past episodes about what critical race theory looks like. Most
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people who spout the tenets of critical race theory say that they have nothing to do with critical race
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theory. A lot of things that fall under the umbrella of critical race theory, which is an all-inclusive
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worldview that is diametrically opposed to scripture and to the Christian worldview. A lot of the tenets of
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it sound Christian can sound compassionate, can sound somewhat biblical, but will ultimately destroy
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your organization. And it will neither help the white students or the non-white students in your
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school. So I'm just encouraging. I, you know, I can't, we can't control necessarily what public schools
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do, and they are part of the spirit of this age. They are. They are going to go down the path of
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secularism, even in the most conservative districts. Eventually, the schools that are not
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moored by the gospel will go the way of progressivism. That's just how it goes. It hasn't
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happened to your public school yet. It will. But it can also happen to Christian schools. If you do
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not know what God has to say about the individual, what God has to say about human worth, what God has
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to say about what love looks like and what justice looks like, you are just going to adopt the secular
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terminology about race and justice. And I promise you will end up compromising on everything else too,
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and you will benefit no one. So if any parent or any student has a problem in your Christian school
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with you simply sticking to the gospel when it comes to how you teach your students how to treat
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people, if they have a problem with equal treatment, if they have a problem with your number one goal in
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the school not being diversity or not being some kind of superficial racial quota, but simply
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being advancing God's kingdom by equipping students to preach the gospel to love God and to love their
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neighbor, then let them have that problem. You stick to the truth. You stick to what's right. I'm very
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passionate about that for churches and for Christian schools because we have to be a refuge of clarity and
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of courage in a world of chaos. And like I said, I will link some past episodes on that because I
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really, really, really, really want Christians to know what biblical justice actually looks like
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and what the biblical approach should be to these contentious issues of race and diversity.
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Okay, guys, there's just so much that I want to discuss. I was just saying to my team just a second
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ago that I am overwhelmed with the number of things that I want to talk about. And it's really
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difficult for me to choose. Okay, I think before we get into our pit bull thing, I do want to talk
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about this story that I saw on Barry Wise's substack. And I'm going to write an article about it probably
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for World Magazine because it's just so disturbing and speaks to so many worldview issues that we talk
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about on this show. And the title of this article is called Scheduled to Die, The Rise of Canada's
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Assisted Suicide Program. And it's about this young man who was able to get an appointment with a so
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called doctor. I don't really understand how you can call yourself a doctor and still be actively doing
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harm as your profession. But I guess that's true when it comes to the maiming of the genitalia of
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children who are apparently confused about their gender. Do no harm is no longer part of a real part
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of the oath that some doctors are taking. In fact, I actually just saw as an aside, there is
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a medical school in Minnesota where the students at their white coat ceremony were reciting their
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pledge. And the pledge had to do with honoring indigenous methods of healing and trying to heal
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the oppression that colonialism and white supremacy and the gender binary have placed on people.
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That is terrifying. Terrifying. The people who are in charge of you living or dying believe that the
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gender binary, which is the basis for a lot of unique health problems for men and women, that it's
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depressive. That's troubling. Now, I am not against the medical industry opening themselves up to more
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holistic and alternative treatments that could possibly work. I do think that because the medical
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industry is so in bed with big pharma and because the insurance racket that we have in our country
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makes it profitable sometimes for hospitals not to actually pursue healing but to pursue prolonged
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sickness, like I'm open. I'm open to, I don't know if I'd call it indigenous methods of healing,
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but I am certainly open to doctors allowing themselves to study other forms of healing than
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just putting people on pharmaceuticals and keeping them in the hospital indefinitely. That's fine.
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But to believe that it is a doctor's job to somehow alleviate the alleged pain that colonialism and
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white supremacy and the gender binary is causing, like that's really troubling. But that's what
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revolutions do. You know, that's what progressive revolutions do. And a lot of people, they want the
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revolution, they want the progressive revolution to stop at the point that it may affect them. A lot
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of people who consider themselves woke or progressive really don't want their doctor to be ideologically
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motivated when it comes to their treatment. You want a doctor that can do a good job, that knows what
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they're doing, that cares about their patients, and is just going to do whatever they can to keep you
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healthy and alive. You don't really want them pursuing social justice means when they are trying to
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prescribe you medicine or when they're operating on your heart attack, right? Like you don't want
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hospitals to be trying to meet racial quotas or to discriminate people based against people based on
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their skin color, right? And yet that is what social justice ends up as. But the revolution doesn't
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stop where you want it to stop. And so the progressive revolution, which has now, which started a long
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time ago, the sexual revolution, it started a long time ago, with the breakdown of traditional gender
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roles, even with the rise of hormonal birth control, and taking, and taking apart the family and dismantling
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gender and trying to rearrange a healthy understanding of race to be something that is constantly divisive
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as oppressed versus oppressor based on historic wrongs, all of that is going to make its way into
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every institution. That's what it does. It's in our military. It's in major corporations. It's in the
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federal government. It's going to characterize academia and curriculum and hospitals and the
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medical industry as well. That's just what the revolution does. And this progressive revolution,
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part of it also is the belittlement of human life, is the objectification of human beings,
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because it is a secular and a godless ideology and worldview. Whereas the Christian worldview is
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based on the idea that we are made by God. And because of that, he tells us who we are. He calls
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us male or female based on the body that he gave us. We are made in his image, and therefore we matter.
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We have value. We have souls. We have eternal worth. We're not just clumps of cells. We're not just
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arbitrary lumps of matter, but our bodies, our souls, our minds actually have innate value. That is the
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basis for human rights. That is the basis for rights and care and privileges that go beyond what
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plants and animals are entitled to, because human beings are different as made in God's image, and
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therefore our life matters. Therefore it is wrong to take innocent life. That is why God hates murder so
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much that he said the only just punishment in Genesis 9-6-4 murder is actually the death penalty.
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I've talked about the death penalty many times. Also, you can go back and listen to episodes on that,
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where I talk about the importance of capital punishment when it comes to crimes like murder.
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But God cares about the body. God cares about human life. And so abortion is an affront to him.
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It's an affront to the Imago Dei. But so is the next stage of this progressive secular revolution,
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and that is so-called dying with dignity or euthanasia. And that is what this article is about
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in Barry Weiss's Substack. It is about this 23-year-old man by the name of Keanu Vafayan,
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I think that's how you pronounce his last name, who was depressed. He had a sickness. He didn't
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have a job. He didn't have a girlfriend. And so he was able to make an appointment to get
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quote-unquote medical assistance in dying. And basically, he was able to meet with a doctor
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a couple times. And they basically said, sure, we will allow you to die. We will assist in your
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death. And we will basically inject you with a chemical. It'll just take a few minutes. And then
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you'll be out of here. Well, his mom figured this out and tried every way that she could to
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try to stop him from dying. And actually, when she called this clinic to try to get more information
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about this procedure, the doctor was like, oh, you know, if you're interested in it, I'm happy to
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see you as a patient. I'm happy to open you up to a consultation. And we'll see if we can kill you
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as well. This is something that is happening across Canada. According to Canada's Department
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of Justice, parents are generally entitled to make treatment decisions on their children's behalf.
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The mature minor doctrine, however, allows children deemed sufficiently mature to make their own
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treatment decisions. And so we're looking at not just a case of 23-year-olds, which is,
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I mean, still, your frontal lobe isn't even developed. And so not only are you making a morally
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atrocious decision in general, but also you're making it before you can even fully comprehend
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what this means. But also in Canada, they are allowing minors to do this as well. So if a minor,
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I mean, it makes sense, right? Like if you're going to say that a minor can mutilate their body because
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they feel on the inside that they're the opposite gender, if they can make that kind of life-altering
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decision, which ends in sterility and permanent maiming of your body and inhibition to healthy
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bodily functions, then why wouldn't you be able to just decide when you want to die,
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even without parental consent? Like you see the demonic, the satanic, the evil end of this,
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that it always ends in the devaluing of human life. And it's the movement that says that they are the
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ones who actually care about human life and the most vulnerable. Like it is all connected by the
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way. Like you can't take it a la carte. Like this progressive secular movement starts with the idea
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that we are all cosmic accidents and therefore anything goes. It starts with the idea that there
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is no God. And so it's going to redefine sex. It's going to redefine gender. It's going to redefine
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justice. It's going to redefine good and evil, right and wrong, what morality is, even reality.
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So it starts with that and therefore anything goes. And as countries chip away at their moral
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foundation, something will fill the vacuum that Christianity and at least the Judeo-Christian
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worldview wants filled. And that is secular progressivism. And secular progressivism,
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everywhere it spreads, like a cancer kills. And it literally, in this case, kills. It allows for
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abortion. It allows, again, for the brutal maiming of a body for people who claim to be
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confused. It ends in incentivizing crime, incentivizing poverty and homelessness, government
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dependence, taking away the purpose that people derive from productivity and jobs. It breaks down
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the family. It makes fatherhood demonized and arbitrary. It takes away the authority that God
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has given to parents to steward and care for and to protect their children. It destroys everything
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that is good. So you see why voting matters. Like you see why politics matter so much. In a lot of cases,
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it's literally a matter of life and death. And that is part of why I get so frustrated when I see
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Christians who try to be on board with one part of the progressive revolution, thinking that the
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revolution is not going to show up on their doorstep and try to attack their kid and disciple their
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children and recruit their family. It's going to happen. It all starts with the assumption that there
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is no God. That's how you get to a place like this. That's how you get to a place like this.
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Um, there is a doctor that is mentioned in this piece, Dr. Derek Smith, a psychiatrist at the
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University of British Columbia, um, who views the rise in, uh, medically assisted, uh, medically
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assisted suicide deaths as progress. Smith never took the Hippocratic oath. He said, because he thought
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it was archaic. He said, it's about relieving suffering, respecting human dignity, like dystopian.
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It's always the opposite with these people. It's always the opposite of what is true. Relieving
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suffering and respecting human dignity. You're actually killing a person. Also, I want to say
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like, this is where I say this a lot. Uh, this is where this idea that virtue simply means the
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presence of consent gets you, but consent is not enough to decide if something is moral or ethical
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or even should be legal. That is where hyper individualism gets you. That is where the idea
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that the individual is God, that the individual is sovereign, that we shouldn't be anchored by
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any objective morality or universal truth or any collective set of values or any kind of moral or
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biblical foundation. But you do you, you decide your own truth. You become your own God. You're your own
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arbiter of morality. It's an exchange of the God of scripture for the God of self. And if you are your
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own God, then you will do whatever it takes to worship you. And that means doing whatever feels
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good at the moment, no matter what anyone else says, no matter what ethics or the law or morality
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says. Again, that is the consequence of that. Consent is not enough to determine whether or something,
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whether or not something should happen or whether or not something is good. So I don't really give
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like a rat's patootie, whether or not a 17 year old or a 25 year old or a 55 year old
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consents to being poisoned by their doctor. My belief in human beings is made in the image of God. My
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belief that murder is wrong because we are made in the image of God prohibits me from being on board with
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that. There are a lot of things that people consent to that are not right and should not be legal. Like
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you can allow yourself to think and imagine for one second what some of those things could be. But
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there are actually doctors that have a lot of influence that actually think that this is progress,
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that this is good. This doctor goes on to say it's about recognizing the inherent right for individuals
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to make decisions affecting their health and even their death. Patients who are going to die were
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assisted along the way with high doses of narcotics. The rationale was to make people comfortable. I
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mean, that is murder. And you know, this is not just happening, by the way, with people who have their
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faculties. This is also happening. This is also happening to people with special needs. This is happening to
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the elderly. This is happening to people who are sick. And yes, they might say, oh, technically,
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they consented to this. But very often, the stories that we hear are stories of being pressured to so-called
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die with dignity. It's just a fancy word for murder.
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Also, this is not just happening to 17-year-olds, so-called mature minors. It's not just happening
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to 23-year-olds. This is also happening to babies. There was a study out of Belgium that showed that
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doctors there killed 24 babies in 15 months because they had, quote, no hope of a bearable future.
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So, I mean, what does that look like? What is the definition of that, by the way? Who gets to
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decide that? I mean, I can tell you when you have state-run medical care, when you have Medicare for
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all, when you have single-payer health care, I can tell you who decides that. And it's the state.
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The state will decide who lives or dies. You don't think that could be possibly abused to
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kill not just people whose society deems, whose society deems not valuable, people with special
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needs, but also people who have bad opinions, people who have committed wrongthink, political
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opponents, communities of people that don't want to be, that the government doesn't want to deal with
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anymore. You think that we can't go that direction? I think we've seen at this point that the slippery
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slope argument is not really a fallacy because everything that the conservative right, the
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religious right, predicted would happen, especially when it comes to this sexual revolution over the
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past 10 to 20 years has happened, even worse than we thought. I don't think we ever thought that there
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would be grown adults endorsing things like, quote, unquote, family-friendly drag shows. And yet,
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here we are. I don't think that we ever thought that 12-year-old girls would be getting their
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healthy breasts removed at hospitals like Kaiser Permanente in California. And yet, here we are. I
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don't think that we ever would have thought that boys are getting castrated because they say that
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they're a girl when they're 15 years old. And yet, here we are. And so, anything that you can imagine
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happening as a result of a particular progressive policy, it's just a matter of time. Like, it likely
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will happen. And so, if you allow this in, if you allow to say, oh, well, it's just, if they consent
00:28:29.180
to it, or they're having a really hard time, or they're depressed, or they're miserable, but they're
00:28:34.820
a mature minor, or they're 25 years old, they're an adult, they can do this. I promise you that opens
00:28:41.460
the door to worse atrocities than you can even imagine, and they will all be legal. They'll all be
00:28:47.260
legal. So, a little more about this story that was published on Barry Wise's Substack. It says,
00:28:53.820
on September 8th, the day after the mother of this young man who was going to commit suicide
00:28:59.980
talked to the doctor, she went to Facebook and she posted, can you effing believe it? The doctor
00:29:06.380
literally has given him the gun to kill himself. I mean, that is what it is. This is no different than
00:29:11.720
giving a suicidal person, a depressed person, a gun to kill themselves. So, rather than saying,
00:29:17.260
hey, there actually is hope, there's purpose, there's community here, let me point you in the
00:29:20.880
right direction. Your life and your body, they matter. It's just saying, you know what,
00:29:26.640
you're absolutely right. It's not worth you living. You would be better off dead and giving
00:29:30.460
them a gun to do that. But because it's in this nice, cushy doctor's office, and because they use
00:29:36.860
phrases, euphemisms like dying with dignity, and because it's used through an injection and not a
00:29:42.840
handgun, apparently that's something that is acceptable and legal. Now, her son did not end
00:29:52.160
up going through with it. He was depressed. He was going through different kinds of health issues,
00:29:57.640
and thank God he decided that he didn't want to die in this way. He didn't want to commit suicide.
00:30:03.920
He didn't want to be murdered by this doctor. He said when he was talking about this that he wanted
00:30:10.500
to be closer to God, and that is why he wanted to end his life. He just wanted to end his pain and
00:30:15.820
suffering. And so, I think for Christians, what we see is not just that like the ethical atrocity
00:30:22.520
that this is, and the horrible assault on the Imago Dei, and just where a lack of morality can send you,
00:30:29.340
but also what hopelessness without the gospel looks like, and without a hope of heaven, and without
00:30:36.960
an understanding of our purpose here on earth, and without knowing Jesus as your fulfillment,
00:30:44.320
and as your healer, even if he doesn't heal you physically in this life, he will make you new and
00:30:49.760
heal you spiritually, and one day you will be fully and finally healed. But he is in charge of your fate.
00:30:57.280
He is in charge of your destiny. He is in charge of both your body and your soul, and he will decide.
00:31:04.680
He will decide when it is time for you to die, and trusting him in that, and trusting that even
00:31:11.260
when there is pain in this life, that the gospel gives you hope, and that he can give you joy in
00:31:19.020
a peace that surpasses understanding. Like you see what us taking God out of the public sphere has done,
00:31:28.180
and us believing that like the secular mentality about life and the value of life is just that it's neutral,
00:31:35.900
and that that's what we should be teaching in schools. That's what we should be presenting in the media.
00:31:40.700
That's what should be the foundation of our laws. It will only end in fragmentation, in death, and decay.
00:31:50.180
And so Christians, try to abandon that idea that you are the only group of people that has to check
00:31:58.300
your worldview at the door before engaging in the civic and cultural sphere. Progressives don't do
00:32:04.840
that. They have invited their worldview into every single institution, their pseudo-religion,
00:32:10.120
into the law, into the classroom. It's only Christians who are ever told that you're not allowed to bring
00:32:16.100
your beliefs to the table when we're discussing these issues. But we see where that has gotten us.
00:32:22.720
When we no longer believe people are made in the image of God, when we believe that we really are
00:32:26.700
all clumps of cells, anything goes, even euthanizing human beings that are simply going through a hard
00:32:33.400
time. And so this does kind of all go back to the importance of sticking to what we know is true and
00:32:40.960
not allowing the world to influence our views of what the law should be and what is ethical and moral.
00:32:58.340
Okay, let's talk about pit bulls. And I'm not talking about the artist. I am talking about the dog.
00:33:06.800
And this is such a controversial topic. Every time I post about it or every time I say something about
00:33:13.920
it, I get a lot of pushback. Also a lot of support because I would say probably the majority of people
00:33:20.500
are anti-pit bull. But pit bull apologists are extremely enthusiastic. And in my opinion,
00:33:27.880
very often, often, I'm not speaking to all of you, but very often extremely irrational. And it's funny,
00:33:35.240
I'm talking even about those who are conservative, who are pit bull defenders and pit bull apologists.
00:33:41.420
And they will all of a sudden, in my opinion, spiral into what is like a left wing mode of
00:33:47.840
argumentation, literally, from conservatives for criticizing pit bulls and the ownership of pit bulls.
00:33:53.460
I've been called a racist. I do not know what that means. Is it racist because I am against the
00:33:58.800
race of pit bulls? Is it racist because there are black people who own pit bulls? I don't know.
00:34:05.240
But I do want to talk about this because it could save a life. I'm not just trying to poke the bear
00:34:11.340
or poke the pit bull. I mean, I would never poke the pit bull. I like my face. But I read this story
00:34:19.200
the other day and I thought, okay, I'm going to talk about this. It's so controversial. People get
00:34:23.840
so angry about it. But I mean, people's lives in some cases are on the line. And it's this story that
00:34:29.620
unfortunately, or that a lot of you saw that was just so absolutely tragic. And it comes out of
00:34:39.000
Shelby County, Tennessee. I'm sure you saw it reported by the New York Post that this mom was
00:34:44.760
hospitalized after her two kids were killed in a pit bull attack. And so this family looks like a very
00:34:53.360
sweet family doesn't look like people who like, you know, are abusing their dogs or are, you know,
00:35:00.380
putting their dogs in some kind of like illegal fight ring. These look like dog people, a sweet,
00:35:06.520
cute, stable looking family that had these two pit bulls that they really loved. And previous social
00:35:14.440
media posts show that they were a pit bull apologist. And these two dogs out of nowhere reportedly
00:35:22.740
mauled these two children, a five-month-old boy, Hollis, and a two-year-old girl named Lily just
00:35:31.420
outside of their home in Tennessee. And the mother, Kirstie Bernard, 30 years old, she was severely
00:35:38.900
injured by these dogs by her pets that they have had for years and is in the hospital. The children
00:35:46.140
were pronounced dead at the scene, a five-month-old baby and a two-year-old little girl. Reportedly,
00:35:51.800
what happened is one of the dogs went after the five-month-old and just wouldn't let go. The mom
00:35:59.300
tried to get this dog off and the dog wouldn't let go. And then the same thing happened to the two
00:36:08.900
year old as well. And the mom couldn't do anything about it. And that is what happens with a pit bull
00:36:15.280
attack. That's what happens with a pit bull attack because that is how they were bred. That is what
00:36:20.720
their breed does. It goes all the way back to their origins. They were actually created to do this kind
00:36:26.840
of thing to animals. And we just cannot get outside of the nature of what pit bulls are. And people need
00:36:34.200
to recognize that, that it's not the owner, it's the pit bull. I'm not saying that there are not bad
00:36:39.580
owners out there. There are bad owners out there. And there are owners that unfortunately exacerbate
00:36:46.460
the nature that pit bulls have to fight and to grip down on something and not let go.
00:36:53.420
But there are a lot of good owners, a lot of loving owners that have had pit bulls since they were
00:36:59.560
babies. And all of a sudden, the pit bull freaks out one day and mauls them. Hopefully not to death,
00:37:06.980
but in a lot of cases, they do. I mean, there are a few other stories. There are a few other stories
00:37:13.340
like this that I've seen. So this happened in Louisville, Texas. A woman, she had a puppy that she
00:37:21.540
was trying to introduce to one of her friends. And her pit bull that she has, which is 100 pounds,
00:37:25.980
all of a sudden just freaked out for seemingly no reason and tried to maul her friend, lunged at her
00:37:35.620
friend, sunk his teeth into his neck. And so the owner was trying to get him off, trying to get him
00:37:43.880
off his friend. And then she went into the bathroom and the dog made it into the bathroom and started
00:37:53.160
attacking her, completely mauled her, almost took her arm off. The dog tore off two-thirds of Taya's
00:37:58.980
right arm, ate her bicep, and sank its teeth into her leg and foot. And she was screaming,
00:38:05.520
help me, I'm dying, when her daughter and her daughter's husband rushed into the living room.
00:38:11.500
Eventually, she made it into the hospital and she helped, I mean, or she was able to survive. But you
00:38:17.320
see pictures of her apartment. I mean, the carpet is soaked in blood. The walls are dripping in blood
00:38:22.740
because of this attack by this pit bull that she said, and that she would have said, was this
00:38:29.000
loving dog that would have never done something like this. There was another story, North Carolina,
00:38:35.460
July of 2022, where a dog sitter let these two pit bulls, her friend's pit bulls, out into the
00:38:43.320
backyard. And all of a sudden, they turn around and mauled her. Also, July of 2022, according to the
00:38:49.220
New York Post, an elderly woman killed by family pit bull in a gruesome attack on Long Island. This
00:38:54.380
was a 70-year-old woman, and there is no indication that she provoked these attacks in any way. And the
00:39:01.000
pit bulls of her family turned around, viciously mauled her, and killed her. There was also a couple,
00:39:07.720
Greenville, North Carolina, just a couple days ago on October 9th. This couple, Bobby Joyner,
00:39:15.660
82, Annie Joyner, 78. This is, again, according to the New York Post, they were brutally attacked by
00:39:21.940
a pit bull. Thankfully, they just went to the hospital. They had to undergo surgeries for their
00:39:26.880
injuries, but they were not killed. There's a story out of Phoenix, Arizona. A Phoenix woman was
00:39:35.020
attacked by pit bulls, and the owner of the pit bull just decided to run away rather than doing
00:39:42.780
anything. And so I could go on and on. I see these kinds of stories all the time. And I understand
00:39:49.300
that pit bulls are not the only dogs that are biting. I understand that pit bull is a large
00:39:55.240
umbrella category for some different kinds of dogs. But we understand what a pit bull is, right? No one
00:40:01.800
is calling a golden retriever a pit bull. No one is secretly putting a true lab mix into the category
00:40:08.620
of pit bull. According to the United Kennel Club and the American Dog Breeders Association,
00:40:14.660
the official name is American Pit Bull Terrier. And it has certain characteristics that categorize a
00:40:22.140
dog as a pit bull. Almond-shaped eyes, a very heavy and muscular neck, a medium-length tail that tapers
00:40:28.100
to a point, a smooth and short coat, a broad chest. They were originally bred for blood sports,
00:40:33.400
such as bull baiting and bear baiting. And they were eliminated in 18... After those were eliminated,
00:40:40.780
the bull baiting and the bear baiting were eliminated in 1835, they were moved to dog fighting.
00:40:47.360
And in America, they were used to catch dogs, especially trained dog used to catch large animals
00:40:52.480
or as catch dogs. So they were trained to catch large animals and hunting and working livestock,
00:41:00.160
semi-wild cattle, hogs to hunt hogs and to drive livestock. And they were trained because they have
00:41:05.720
such a strong upper body and because they have such a strong bite to grab onto the neck of these
00:41:11.900
animals and not let go. That's what they were bred for. All right? That is in their nature. It does not
00:41:18.880
have to do with the owner. It has to do with the kind of breed. And I just... This is why I say that
00:41:24.720
pit bull apologists seem to me so irrational because they say, oh, it's the owner. So it's the owner
00:41:30.060
only with pit bulls, but with no other kind of animal. Because I promise you, or no other kind
00:41:37.100
of breed, like I promise you that we did not teach our golden retrievers to retrieve. We didn't teach
00:41:43.260
them how to swim growing up. They just knew how to do that. You don't have to teach an Australian
00:41:48.520
shepherd how to herd sheep. Like you don't have to teach labs how to catch a tennis ball and swim in
00:41:57.800
the water. They already know how to do that. Every breed has characteristics that are a part of their
00:42:03.980
nature that were bred into them. And pit bulls were created to hold onto something, hold onto a neck
00:42:11.360
and not let go of it. They were created to be aggressive. There is a reason why they are used
00:42:18.000
as fight dogs. And for example, golden retrievers aren't. Now I know I'm going to get a bunch of
00:42:23.280
comments saying, well, my chocolate lab bit my child and my pit bull helps me make oatmeal for
00:42:30.560
my baby in the morning. And I would let my pit bull rock my infant to sleep. And you don't know
00:42:35.840
what you're talking about. I'm sure that you've had great interactions with pit bulls. I can actually
00:42:40.620
tell like if you have both of your arms, that's a really good indication to me that you have had
00:42:45.020
positive interactions with pit bulls. I'm sure your pit bull is nice. And maybe your pit bull will
00:42:50.220
probably never do anything wrong in its life. And it probably has been really sweet to your babies.
00:42:55.420
And it will probably go to its dying day without doing anything. But the fact of the matter is,
00:43:01.540
is that pit bull other more than other dogs are unpredictable. They have something in their genes,
00:43:08.160
in their DNA that we do not fully understand that makes them maul and makes them attack to kill.
00:43:17.660
There are other dogs that attack. Please, please, please do not comment that chihuahuas
00:43:22.220
bite more than pit bulls. Okay. When you, when you can send me stories about chihuahuas mauling and
00:43:29.480
killing toddlers, then okay, like we can, we can have a conversation. I'll do a segment about that too.
00:43:37.700
Like chihuahuas aren't trained in the same way. They don't bite to kill. They can't maul. I'm not
00:43:42.740
saying that other dogs don't attack, but it is in the DNA of pit bulls to maim and to kill. And so
00:43:51.080
I absolutely believe that we should not be breeding pit bulls. Are you kidding me? I think
00:43:58.040
it's absolutely unethical that there are shelters that will call pit bulls a lab mix so they will get
00:44:05.200
adopted out. There is also just propaganda about pit bulls. There's been like this image rehab ever
00:44:14.220
since the whole like Michael Vick scandal several years ago, trying to make it seem like pit bulls
00:44:19.820
are just like any other dogs. There was, there's this quote from, there's a animal shelter in North
00:44:28.340
Carolina, Wake County, North Carolina animal shelters encouraging people to adopt one of the dozens of
00:44:32.400
pit bulls in their shelter in the month of October. Pit bulls might be the most misunderstood dogs.
00:44:37.480
They said surrounded with negative stereotypes and false perceptions. They're sweet as pie
00:44:42.080
when they're loved and cared for. I'm sorry, but that's just not necessarily true.
00:44:48.160
There are lots of pit bulls that are loved and cared for who maul infants. I guarantee you that family
00:44:54.420
in Shelby County, Tennessee, uh, where the baby and the toddler were both mauled to death by these
00:45:00.100
pit bulls. I guarantee you that they were caring for them. Well, it is a part of their genetics.
00:45:16.340
The ASPCA also says all dogs, including pit bulls are individuals. No, they are not.
00:45:22.180
No, they are not. Not all dogs are individuals. You cannot find me a golden retriever that cannot
00:45:27.200
retrieve. You can't find me an Australian shepherd that doesn't naturally herd things. Like you're
00:45:33.300
not going to be able to prove that to me. You're just not. They're not individuals. They might have
00:45:39.860
their own personalities in some ways, of course, but they have characteristics of their breed. Gosh,
00:45:46.980
we are so stupid. People are so dumb. I don't understand how this has become like a political,
00:45:52.380
ideological, emotional thing. All right. Pit bulls are an aggressive breed and they kill
00:46:01.460
when they attack more than any other breed. There is absolutely no reason for it to be legal to breed
00:46:08.380
them. And they should be, it should be by law that they have to be sterilized. It should be very
00:46:15.640
difficult to keep a pit bull because it's about the safety of communities. It's about the safety of
00:46:22.080
families. There was this horrible story I remember reading not too long ago out of Fort Worth. This
00:46:28.900
little girl, she went into her backyard like she usually does and her family had two pit bulls and
00:46:35.160
the pit bulls just mauled her to death. Apparently that's like a sacrifice or that's a risk that people
00:46:41.300
are willing to take. Now, of course, I do believe that we should be careful around any kind of type of
00:46:48.540
dog that we should be cautious, of course, when allowing our kids around them. But we should also
00:46:57.160
be prudent when it comes to what kind of dogs we own and what kind of dogs we allow to, what dogs we
00:47:05.920
allow to breed. There are also some academic articles about this. So according to the National Library of
00:47:11.780
Medicine, an article there, Dog Bites of the Head and Neck and Evaluation of a Common Pediatric Trauma
00:47:17.200
and Associated Treatment, of the dog bites that they studied from January 2012 to January 2013,
00:47:29.080
pit bulls were involved in one-third of the attacks that they studied. 94% of the pit bull attacks
00:47:35.500
required surgical consultation. See, that's the difference between a bite from a lab
00:47:39.760
and a bite from a pit bull. You might have a serious bite from a lab. They might bite. But
00:47:44.960
94 of the pit bull attacks required surgical consultation. 48% attacked without provocation.
00:47:53.520
There is another study from April of 2011, mortality, mauling, and maiming by vicious dogs. And they
00:48:00.280
looked at 228 total patients of dog bites. Only 82 patients reported the breed of dog that attacked
00:48:07.280
them. But 29 of those, 36% of those were pit bulls. Now, remember that pit bulls only make up about 6%
00:48:14.420
of the population. Yet they're making up a large percentage of these very serious dog attacks.
00:48:22.240
There is another study, clinical pediatrics, characteristics of 1,616 consecutive dog bite
00:48:29.560
injuries at a single institution from July 2016. Over half of the surgeries required,
00:48:36.160
we're talking about kids over the age of four years old at one hospital, over half of the surgeries
00:48:41.860
required were because of pit bulls. Pit bulls were 2.5 times as likely to bite in multiple anatomic
00:48:48.200
locations as compared to other breeds. Most of the operating procedures were major wound irrigation
00:48:53.740
and closure, more than just a few stitches or eye and eyelid repair. And so this is the reality of the
00:49:03.240
existence of pit bulls. And the media used to be more honest about this. There is this Time magazine
00:49:08.600
article called The Problem with Pit Bulls, and people are freaked out about it. But it talks about
00:49:15.100
the facts that pit bulls make up only 6% of the dog population, but they're responsible for 68% of dog
00:49:20.360
attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982, according to research compiled by Merrick Clifton,
00:49:26.020
editor of Animals 24-7. Another report published in April 2011 found that one person is killed
00:49:32.660
by a pit bull every 14 days. Two people are injured by a pit bull every day, and young children are
00:49:38.600
especially at risk. Even PETA, the largest animal rights organization in the world, supports breed-specific
00:49:45.000
sterilization for pit bulls. A spokesperson for PETA stands by that statement saying, or stood by that
00:49:54.780
statement at least when this was published, these dogs were bred to bait bulls. They were bred to
00:49:59.000
fight each other to the death. Just because we're an animal rights organization doesn't mean that we're
00:50:02.900
not concerned about public safety. There was also an opinion piece that I thought was good in a
00:50:11.900
Cincinnati Inquirer where Dr. David A. Billmore, he's a professor and director of the Division of
00:50:16.920
Craniofacial and Pediatric Plastic Surgery at Cincinnati Children's Hospital. He's got 30 years of
00:50:22.300
experience, and he says that in his experience, he has seen the kind of damage that pit bull attacks
00:50:33.740
cause on children. He tells in this article different terrible stories about what he has
00:50:40.440
had to do with these pit bull victims. He said that he has had to watch a child bleed to death because a
00:50:45.580
pit bull had torn his throat out. He had to rebuild the skull of a child who has had his ears and scalp
00:50:51.000
torn off. He has had multiple facial reconstructions of kids whose faces have been torn off to the
00:50:56.420
bone. Innumerable rebuilding of noses, lips, eyelids, cheeks, jaws, legs, and hands. He says,
00:51:02.400
based on my extensive experience, I believe that the risk posed by pit bulls is equivalent to placing
00:51:06.760
a loaded gun with the safety off on the coffee table. In my opinion, these dogs should be banned.
00:51:12.880
And it's not even the same as saying that they're putting the gun on a coffee table. It's even worse
00:51:24.100
than that because the gun actually requires someone to pick it up and to pull the trigger, whereas you
00:51:31.220
don't have to do anything to a pit bull for them to attack you. And one argument that I hear from
00:51:37.480
conservatives who are pit bull apologists, they'll say, oh, so you must believe in banning guns, too.
00:51:44.420
It's the same kind of mentality. It's the same kind of rationale. Well, when we have a constitutional
00:51:50.080
amendment that is guaranteeing our right to a pit bull, maybe that'll be a good argument. But it's not the
00:51:56.100
same at all. Again, one, because you actually like a gun is an inanimate object. You can use it for good
00:52:03.580
purposes. You can use it for bad purposes. But it is used to fight the tyranny of the government. And
00:52:09.160
of course, for self-defense, pit bulls do not have the same purpose. And they're not the same at all.
00:52:16.400
So I just find that to be like a really, really strange argument to be made. So all in all,
00:52:23.160
please think twice before adopting a pit bull. Think twice before keeping your pit bull, especially if you
00:52:29.580
have children. I do not care how sweet your pit bull has been. It is something that you have to
00:52:35.660
take seriously. I don't care how great your experiences with pit bulls have been. I am
00:52:42.160
anti-pit bull. My producer, Brie, says that she is an anti-pit bull radicalist. And so we are all on the
00:52:49.160
same page, thankfully, over here. I was really worried that she was going to tell me that she was
00:52:52.640
like pro-pit bull or something. But really, like I find that whenever I bring this up, I get such
00:52:58.660
irrational pushback on it. There was actually someone who told me she's not going to listen
00:53:03.260
to my podcast anymore because of my pit bull criticism. So I just decided to put it all out
00:53:08.000
there in the hopes that maybe someone will take this advice and take these statistics and stories
00:53:12.000
seriously and not own a pit bull. Okay, that episode went a lot longer than I thought it would
00:53:30.380
in a lot of different directions than I originally intended. We kind of just did it on the fly,
00:53:34.700
except for that pit bull part. We decided that we were going to talk about that. That was the
00:53:38.500
controversial piece that I said that I was going to be discussing yesterday. I understand. I am
00:53:42.820
probably going to get a lot of angry messages. And the ironic thing is that people will simultaneously,
00:53:48.300
the message that I will get, like within the same message, it will be, wow, pit bulls are so peaceful
00:53:54.500
and awesome and wonderful. But if I ever see you, I'm going to sicker on you. And I'm like, yeah,
00:53:59.800
it's because you understand that your pit bull has a propensity towards violence. So let's just have a
00:54:05.760
little rationality here. And let's just try to do what is best, not just for ourselves, but also for
00:54:12.020
our neighbors. And that means sterilizing all pit bulls. Thanks. All right, we will be back here on
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Monday. No, tomorrow. What's today? Today, Thursday? No, so we will be back here on Monday for more. See you guys then.
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