Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 720 ｜ American Girl Betrays Girls & the SEL Trojan Horse ｜ Guest： James Lindsay

00:00:00.000 American Girl Promotes Puberty Blockers to Three-Year-Old Girls.

00:00:05.840 Yes, you heard that right.

00:00:07.340 So at the top of this episode, I have a very, let's say, passionate response to them about

00:00:15.860 this.

00:00:16.220 And then also we are talking to James Lindsay.

00:00:19.520 We're talking about the dangers that he sees in social emotional learning curriculum in

00:00:24.860 schools.

00:00:25.220 Also, the whole OK Groomer thing that got him kicked off Twitter, what that was like.

00:00:31.700 And also we will be dissecting the philosophy and ideology and theology behind struggle

00:00:38.460 sessions, specifically white fragility, racial struggle sessions.

00:00:42.840 So all of this and much more on this episode of Relatable.

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00:01:07.040 All right, before we get into that conversation with James Lindsay, I just wanted to react to

00:01:12.800 to respond to this unbelievable American Girl story.

00:01:18.480 I saw it this morning and I knew that I had to say something about it at the top of this

00:01:23.920 show.

00:01:24.540 Let me read you this headline and then I'll let you know what I think.

00:01:29.180 This is from Daily Mail.

00:01:30.640 American Girl is accused of stripping away all innocence in book that teaches children as

00:01:35.220 young as three how to change gender by asking doctors for puberty blockers.

00:01:41.600 So you might recall growing up, American Girl had these books that they would put out about

00:01:49.100 how to take care of your female body and what it meant to go through puberty, to become a 0.98

00:01:55.020 woman, to start your period, all of these things.

00:01:57.440 I don't remember reading these books myself, but I think I had friends who did and some of

00:02:02.260 you have reached out to me and told me that you read these to your daughter growing up and

00:02:05.820 that they were really good.

00:02:06.700 They were really just about taking care of yourself and being happy about your femininity.

00:02:11.620 Everything that makes you a girl, everything that turns you from a girl into a woman. 0.77

00:02:16.480 These are very awkward years.

00:02:18.240 These can be very self-conscious, insecure years.

00:02:21.000 And so these books were a way to support girls and to show them that it's okay.

00:02:25.880 It's good to be a woman.

00:02:27.100 It's good to be a girl.

00:02:28.380 These are not things to be ashamed of.

00:02:30.500 These are bodies that we are supposed to take care of, that we are supposed to steward,

00:02:33.760 that we are supposed to be grateful for.

00:02:36.340 That's a good thing.

00:02:37.400 That really was what American Girl was about, to let girls know that it's good to be a girl,

00:02:44.900 that girls have value, that girls bring a lot to the table. 0.85

00:02:48.100 That's what their book series were about.

00:02:49.900 Not just this kind of book that taught girls what it means to grow up and grow into a woman,

00:02:56.500 but their historical fiction books that had girls from different eras, and they would 0.99

00:03:01.160 have a series about that girl and all of the different experiences that she had, and they

00:03:06.240 were really good.

00:03:07.460 I had a lot of those books growing up.

00:03:09.360 I was a voracious reader growing up, and I would read the books about Molly, the books

00:03:14.600 about Josefina, the books about Samantha, the books about Felicity.

00:03:18.600 I loved them all.

00:03:19.740 The books about Addie, and I had a few of their dolls, and it was just a really fun and innocent

00:03:26.180 thing to be a part of.

00:03:28.000 It was a good entity, as far as I know, and as far as I can remember, for girls.

00:03:33.960 And yet, American Girl, just like every corporation almost, and nearly every institution, has now

00:03:41.320 been taken over by the malignant cancer that is progressivism.

00:03:47.020 And it has now bought into this lie, this dangerous and deadly lie that it is possible for a person

00:03:55.720 to be born in the wrong body, and that a feeling that you have about your gender trumps biological

00:04:05.800 reality, and that you might have to maim your body in order to fit that feeling, that identification

00:04:13.840 that you have in your heart, and your mind, and your soul.

00:04:18.160 As we will talk about with James Lindsay, this is a pseudo-religious and superstitious belief

00:04:24.120 that degrades reality, that dismisses reality, that degrades the body, and it has lifelong consequences.

00:04:33.360 So American Girl went from telling girls that your body is good, that you were given a good 1.00

00:04:39.680 body, it's something to care for, to then encouraging girls to go on puberty blockers. 1.00

00:04:46.140 So let me read you a little bit about this, as reported by the Daily Mail.

00:04:51.320 The popular American girl doll brand is facing backlash for pushing children as young as three

00:04:55.460 years old into changing their gender.

00:04:57.980 Yes, this is a book that is marketed for ages three up.

00:05:02.040 As a mom of a three-year-old, I cannot tell you how angry that fact alone makes me.

00:05:11.820 So I know toddlers at this point.

00:05:14.080 I have lots of nieces and nephews, and then I also have two toddlers of my own.

00:05:18.100 And I see that they are constantly trying to make distinctions between things.

00:05:22.500 They are constantly trying to put things into their proper context.

00:05:25.900 They are constantly trying to identify things, including human beings.

00:05:29.460 Oh, that's a mommy, that's a daddy, that's a man, that's a woman, that's a girl, that's

00:05:36.640 a boy, that's two girls, that's two boys.

00:05:38.740 I see how important that is to their development, to put things into categories.

00:05:43.800 The world is really big, really chaotic, and really confusing to all of us, but to especially

00:05:48.380 children, to which everything is new.

00:05:51.840 And so they are trying to make their world smaller, to make more sense, to make themselves

00:05:56.460 feel safer, and to really understand everyone, and what's going on, who poses a threat, who's

00:06:03.440 not, who can they familiarize themselves with, what can they understand, what's still confusing

00:06:09.340 to them.

00:06:09.760 This is vital for their development, not just their understanding of the world, but their

00:06:14.720 understanding of themselves.

00:06:16.440 Because they're not just trying to put other things and other people into their proper

00:06:20.200 categories to make sense of everything.

00:06:22.040 But they are also trying to put themselves in certain categories to make sense of themselves,

00:06:26.880 to orient themselves in a very big, very chaotic, very confusing world so some things

00:06:33.000 can just make sense to them.

00:06:35.680 It is important for their sense of self, for their understanding, for their development to

00:06:40.240 know what the difference is between male and female, what makes someone a girl or a boy,

00:06:45.720 what they are.

00:06:46.620 That it's something that they can look at and rely on, and not something that they are

00:06:52.020 responsible for deciding themselves based on what they may feel that day.

00:06:56.900 And by the way, kids at that age get pronouns wrong all the time.

00:07:00.940 They get male and female wrong just based on whether they're being silly in that moment, or 0.53

00:07:07.300 whether they just got confused, or just whatever.

00:07:11.680 I mean, because they're three years old, they're babies, their brains are barely developed.

00:07:15.840 Our frontal lobe doesn't even get developed until we're 25.

00:07:20.440 We can't even expect most adults to figure out this stuff, and yet we're putting it on

00:07:24.460 children purposely, and it is for the purpose of grooming.

00:07:28.280 Don't let anyone tell you differently.

00:07:31.020 You do not talk to a three-year-old about switching their gender and one day possibly maiming their 0.99

00:07:37.880 body because of a feeling that they have in their mind unless you are grooming them toward

00:07:43.140 a particular outcome.

00:07:44.100 It's not about inclusion.

00:07:46.760 It's not about compassion.

00:07:48.360 It's not about representation.

00:07:50.440 All of these, as again we will talk about with James, are manipulation tactics to get you to

00:07:55.860 comply so that your son or daughter will be led down a path of permanent sterility and of being a

00:08:04.540 slave to the medical industrial complex so that they will rely on not just this ideology, but the fake science and all the people who are making money off of it for the rest of their lives.

00:08:20.420 It is to sow confusion.

00:08:22.980 God is not a God of confusion, as we read.

00:08:25.580 God is a God of peace.

00:08:27.360 Satan is the author of confusion.

00:08:29.840 This is the opposite of love.

00:08:31.860 This is the opposite of caring for your body.

00:08:33.880 Like, this is the opposite of compassion and true empathy.

00:08:38.700 This is hate.

00:08:39.740 This is confusion.

00:08:41.700 Let me read a little bit more about this.

00:08:44.140 It's called, because every time I read something about it, it just makes me angry enough to say something.

00:08:47.520 It's called, A Smart Girl's Guide Body Image contains, A Smart Girl's Guide Body Image contains lines that give advice to prepubescents on how to change their gender without their guardian's blessings. 0.91

00:09:00.380 Parents have since slammed the book's contents as deceptive and dangerous as we should.

00:09:04.860 A passage in the book marketed to girls aged between 3 and 12 advises, if you haven't gone through puberty yet, quote unquote, the doctor, and then quote again,

00:09:15.200 the doctor might offer medicine to delay your body's changes, giving you more time to think about your gender identity.

00:09:21.060 That is misinformation.

00:09:22.780 That's not what puberty blockers do. 0.90

00:09:24.880 The effects of puberty blockers can be permanent, because guess what?

00:09:28.420 There is a reason, a scientific, biological reason why every human body goes through puberty.

00:09:35.160 It's not just, it's not like arbitrary.

00:09:37.740 It's not an accident.

00:09:39.020 It's not something that you can just take on or off.

00:09:41.500 It's not a button that you can press.

00:09:43.240 It is necessary, not just for your body's development, not just for your lifelong health, but for the maturation of your mind.

00:09:50.100 And again, I will pose this question.

00:09:52.360 What kind of group benefits from locking young children in perpetual adolescence?

00:09:59.940 Ask yourself, what perverts like that?

00:10:03.620 Who wants to stop a group of people from growing up?

00:10:07.760 From developing mentally?

00:10:10.260 From developing bodily?

00:10:12.140 Ask yourself, who benefits from that?

00:10:14.480 Yes, all of the doctors who are making money off Lupron and things like that.

00:10:18.200 But tell me, what other group of people might like that?

00:10:21.640 Might find some kind of pleasure in that kind of thing?

00:10:24.980 Halting your puberty will probably lead to lifelong infertility, depending on how long it goes on,

00:10:32.200 depending on if you later go through the cross-sex hormone situation process.

00:10:38.340 And so they are encouraging girls, hey, yeah, you know what?

00:10:42.120 You might be born in the wrong body.

00:10:44.320 Oh, yeah, you don't want to develop those breasts. 1.00

00:10:46.560 You don't want to look more like a woman. 1.00

00:10:48.120 Let's put you on some medication to see if we can halt that, because this might all be a mistake.

00:10:54.600 It might not be so good to be a girl.

00:10:56.560 That's what American Girl Company is saying. 0.95

00:11:01.220 The book, penned by resident American Girl author Mel Hammond, is currently available on shelves in bookstores across the country and on the company's website.

00:11:07.720 The release of the book comes amid a wave of increasingly woke content from the American Girl brand.

00:11:12.120 Earlier this year, its parent company, Mattel, recently put a transgender Barbie doll on the market.

00:11:17.440 No, it didn't.

00:11:18.280 And here's what I mean by that.

00:11:19.800 There's no such thing as a transgender Barbie.

00:11:23.140 There is male, there is female, and then there is confusion.

00:11:28.660 Then there is chaos.

00:11:30.020 Then there is identification of something other than what you actually are.

00:11:34.600 So they may have tried to market a transgender Barbie, which is absolutely destructive, but you'll never be able to accomplish something like that. 1.00

00:11:43.360 I guarantee if you handed that Barbie to your average, like, two or three-year-old, they're going to call it what it looks like, because that's what kids do.

00:11:52.040 That's what they're supposed to do.

00:11:54.180 Part of the book reads, parts of your body may make you feel uncomfortable, and you may want to change the way you look.

00:11:59.220 One excerpt deemed problematic by parents' online reads before asserting, that's totally okay.

00:12:06.860 It goes on to advise children, you can appreciate your body for everything it allows you to experience and still want to change certain things about it.

00:12:13.760 On the very same page, the book promotes the use of puberty blockers, telling girls to seek them out from their doctor if they feel confused about their gender but are not physically ready to undergo hormone therapy.

00:12:24.540 So we just jumped immediately from, you know, what it was 20 years ago.

00:12:30.000 Girls, you're too fat. 1.00

00:12:31.420 You need to stop eating.

00:12:32.700 You need to go on a diet as soon as you go through puberty.

00:12:35.260 You need to change your body to look stick thin.

00:12:37.760 It's not good to have hips. 0.99

00:12:39.540 You can't have any curves at all, except for when you turn 16.

00:12:43.000 You're supposed to, like, be like a D cup, but you have to have hips like a nine-year-old boy.

00:12:49.180 So we went from that unrealistic expectation, telling girls that your body will never be good enough, you'll never really be thin enough, to where we are now is that it might not be good to be a girl at all.

00:13:00.140 So, like, we had no progress.

00:13:03.080 We think we're making progress, but we're not.

00:13:05.140 We're still teaching girls that their body is not good and that they need to make changes to it in order to try to conform to what they think that their body should be. 1.00

00:13:13.740 20 years ago, was American Girl also telling girls, hey, if you don't like your body, you can just stop eating.

00:13:20.160 Hey, if you don't like how your hips are too big, maybe you can just binge and purge a little bit.

00:13:25.900 Tell me why this is different.

00:13:27.760 Well, I think we know why it's different, because it is a sort of religion to them, but functionally, it's not.

00:13:34.020 In substance, it's not.

00:13:36.100 So parents are slamming this.

00:13:38.480 The author of the book, Hammond, lists her pronouns in her LinkedIn profile, of course.

00:13:42.300 She earned a master's degree in children's literature at Kansas State, where she says she's studying misplaced in giant food in picture books.

00:13:51.060 So that's what our universities are producing and are developing.

00:13:57.900 Parents, take back, send back the doll, the products, the books that you got from American Girl.

00:14:06.960 Do not gift your children this for Christmas.

00:14:09.980 Do not spend another cent here.

00:14:11.680 I understand you're nostalgic.

00:14:13.700 I do.

00:14:14.320 So am I.

00:14:15.240 I would have loved to introduce my kids to this.

00:14:18.780 Like, I would have loved to have given an American Girl doll to my kids.

00:14:25.820 I learned a lot.

00:14:27.040 I learned a love of reading from this stuff.

00:14:29.200 I liked my dolls.

00:14:30.060 I had a lookalike doll.

00:14:31.360 She was a little cheerleader American Girl doll that I had when I was little.

00:14:35.560 I understand the nostalgia.

00:14:37.020 I understand the just longing for things to be how they used to be and to just kind of push this stuff to the side and say, you know what, I think we can still go to Disney.

00:14:46.880 I think that we can still buy American Girl doll books.

00:14:49.800 I think that we can still, you know, shop at the places that are actively working against the well-being and the safety and the security of our children.

00:14:58.160 I think it's fine.

00:14:59.280 And look, it's not the same as it used to be.

00:15:02.720 And I understand we can't boycott everything.

00:15:04.400 I don't boycott everything.

00:15:05.720 We just we do the best that we can.

00:15:08.200 But I think that this is a clear one.

00:15:10.020 They're telling your girls that they can cut off their breasts and become something that they will never be. 0.99

00:15:14.880 They are pushing infertility, sterility in your children.

00:15:18.540 And guess what, parents?

00:15:19.880 This author and the employees at American Girl are not going to be the ones there to pick up the pieces when your daughter is reeling from and dealing with the confusion and the destruction that this idea has wrought in her life.

00:15:34.760 They're not going to be there when she's recovering from her mastectomy when she is 17 years old.

00:15:40.020 They're not going to be there when she mourns her infertility when she's 25.

00:15:44.040 They're not going to be there when she has surgery after surgery, doctor's appointment after doctor's appointment, because changing your gender through surgery never really works. 1.00

00:15:56.640 They're not going to be there to pick up the pieces of her depression when she realizes that she maimed her body for nothing.

00:16:03.940 You are.

00:16:05.000 You're going to be the one holding her hand.

00:16:07.360 You're going to be there.

00:16:08.240 You're going to be the one who is comforting her.

00:16:12.300 And you have to be the one now to tell her what is true.

00:16:15.660 Someone is always going to be discipling your kids.

00:16:18.460 Always.

00:16:19.400 Someone is always looking to win over their hearts and minds.

00:16:24.140 Parents, it is our job to be that person.

00:16:27.580 It is our job to disciple our kids.

00:16:29.440 It is our job, our obligation from day one to tell them what is good and right and true.

00:16:36.260 To insist upon it and to make sure that before they get out into the world and they greet all of this confusion and chaos and these deadly lies, that they have a foundation of truth and of love.

00:16:49.680 And one of the best and easiest things that you can do is tell your kids it's good to be a girl.

00:16:55.900 It's good to be a boy.

00:16:57.520 God made you with purpose.

00:16:59.240 Your body is good.

00:17:00.600 We all go through times of confusion and insecurity, but who you are made is not an accident.

00:17:07.520 It is purposeful.

00:17:09.360 And it's something to be grateful for and celebrate.

00:17:12.060 American Girl, shame on you. 1.00

00:17:14.320 Shame on you.

00:17:14.820 I hope you lose so much money.

00:17:18.360 This is grooming behavior.

00:17:20.040 This is perverted.

00:17:21.640 This is predatory.

00:17:22.840 Yes, this is pedophilic and you deserve all of the backlash you're about to get.

00:17:39.760 James, one of my favorite guests.

00:17:41.740 Thanks for coming back and joining us.

00:17:43.860 How are you doing?

00:17:44.580 I'm pretty good.

00:17:45.940 Pretty good.

00:17:46.680 Yeah.

00:17:47.200 It's been busy.

00:17:48.220 It's been crazy.

00:17:49.000 You got back on Twitter.

00:17:49.520 Yeah, back on Twitter.

00:17:50.440 That's a nightmare.

00:17:51.540 Yeah.

00:17:51.880 Yeah.

00:17:52.220 How does it feel being back?

00:17:53.840 Well, I didn't want to come back.

00:17:55.040 You didn't?

00:17:56.480 No, I didn't actually.

00:17:57.780 I got kicked off, you know, back in August and I was almost immediately, I thought, you

00:18:04.440 know, wow, I feel like I got splashed in the face with cold water and it wasn't like you're

00:18:08.740 wasting your life like a lot of people talk about.

00:18:10.940 No, I was very effective on Twitter and so I didn't feel like I was wasting my life, but

00:18:14.820 I felt like it's not the best way to do the things that are done through Twitter.

00:18:19.660 Yeah.

00:18:19.940 It's Twitter or social media in general, in my opinion, are not a good way to have the

00:18:26.120 public conversation.

00:18:27.460 They are the new public square by matter of fact or structure or whatever, but they're

00:18:32.820 not a good way to have a public conversation.

00:18:34.800 In fact, they're terrible.

00:18:36.000 Yeah.

00:18:36.140 And so I was kind of like relieved.

00:18:38.700 I did get to feeling a little bit lonely after a couple of months.

00:18:41.960 I felt disconnected.

00:18:42.940 I didn't know what was going on.

00:18:44.840 There's this thing, maybe you're not a big fan of Chris Hitchens, Christopher Hitchens

00:18:48.740 from back in the day, but when he was dying, he started writing these things about mortality

00:18:52.100 when he got cancer.

00:18:53.540 And one of the things that he said, and I think about it, I thought about it a lot when

00:18:56.740 I was kicked off Twitter, is when you're going to die, it's not that the party's ending that

00:19:04.640 upsets you.

00:19:05.380 It's that you know that the party will most assuredly go on without you in it.

00:19:09.540 And I got that feeling.

00:19:12.520 It was weird.

00:19:13.120 I got kicked off.

00:19:13.920 I got eulogized.

00:19:15.140 I read eulogies.

00:19:16.120 I got called a free speech martyr.

00:19:19.460 And then you got kicked off for the groomer thing for the groomer thing.

00:19:22.660 Yeah.

00:19:23.040 And let's before we even talk about getting kicked off, let's back up a little bit.

00:19:27.180 Most people know where the OK Groomer came from.

00:19:30.400 But tell us like how you came up with that and what you were actually what you were actually

00:19:36.460 labeling groomer behavior that then got you booted.

00:19:40.080 OK, so yeah, I actually did my first OK Groomer tweet to somebody.

00:19:45.140 And it's actually just some random like anonymous person like being snarky at me or something,

00:19:50.400 the first one.

00:19:51.360 And then I realized it's resonant memetic quality and kind of stuck with it.

00:19:56.320 I think it was from OK Groomer.

00:19:58.440 That's right.

00:19:58.780 That was the meme that from a few years ago, making fun of baby boomers for being baby boomers.

00:20:03.000 That's right.

00:20:03.520 So it was like October of 21.

00:20:07.000 And, you know, we all remember from whatever previous election, the perky little girl dancing

00:20:13.260 around with her Bernie shirt saying, OK, Boomer, OK, Boomer.

00:20:16.480 And it's just so evil and how dismissive it is.

00:20:21.600 Yeah.

00:20:21.920 You know, it doesn't matter what a Boomer says.

00:20:24.080 You say, OK, Boomer.

00:20:25.120 And then that just means you're old.

00:20:26.960 I don't care about your opinion.

00:20:28.420 Bye.

00:20:29.000 Yeah.

00:20:29.260 I always did think it was rude.

00:20:31.400 And there have been a number.

00:20:32.340 OK, Karen.

00:20:33.040 It's the same thing.

00:20:33.900 It's like your age or your gender or your race, especially when it comes to Karen, if

00:20:39.900 you're a white woman, then no matter what you say, no matter how legitimate your complaint 1.00

00:20:43.480 is, it's dismissed.

00:20:45.940 No, you're just in the person who complains box or you're just in the old person who doesn't

00:20:49.840 get it box.

00:20:50.640 And in this case, I realized that, you know, I understand that one of the things that

00:20:56.240 leftists absolutely can't stand more than any other thing is being dismissed because all

00:21:00.720 they do is play these complicated word games, you know, you're a woman, I'm a man, this

00:21:05.760 isn't hard, but they have to write thousands of pages to explain why that's not sufficient.

00:21:10.840 So they have to be taken seriously.

00:21:13.300 So something that dismisses them actually really cuts to the core.

00:21:17.120 Plus, they're grooming in a variety of ways, kind of at once, which gives it accuracy and

00:21:25.000 lexical ambiguity.

00:21:26.600 So, I mean, I don't think that I masterminded this OK Groomer response, but I said it and

00:21:32.200 as soon as I said it just flippantly to this person who smarted off to me, which is a thing

00:21:36.280 I do on Twitter, I realized kind of all of its memetic qualities very, very quickly because

00:21:42.580 people went berserk also.

00:21:44.840 And I think I got threatened to get kicked off of Twitter for it like very quickly.

00:21:48.180 I started getting the, you know, German law says you didn't break any laws emails like

00:21:52.340 the Germans.

00:21:52.740 Right away, yeah.

00:21:53.280 Yeah.

00:21:53.760 And so I apparently used it something like 700 times by the time they kicked me off for

00:21:59.640 it because the human rights campaign did an analysis and like counted all my tweets or

00:22:04.880 something.

00:22:05.220 Oh my gosh.

00:22:06.180 Absolutely obsessive.

00:22:07.700 I mean, very communist behavior.

00:22:09.400 Yeah.

00:22:09.620 Let's count their tweets, make a list, you know, the whole thing.

00:22:12.660 But what was I calling grooming?

00:22:14.320 There are a number of things, but primarily I was thinking of this weird combination of

00:22:21.900 ideologically grooming people or brainwashing people into a certain way of viewing the world.

00:22:26.620 And then the fact that that view of the world contains explicitly queer theory and thus sexual 0.73

00:22:31.460 topics.

00:22:32.520 And so that's where that lexical ambiguity comes in.

00:22:36.220 It means something that they're definitely doing regardless of their sexual intents, which

00:22:42.060 is grooming kids into an ideology.

00:22:44.320 And then simultaneously it sticks because they're grooming kids into sexuality, which

00:22:51.420 is at least, you know, if we were to lay out the eight or 10 steps to grooming a child,

00:22:56.400 whatever those would be.

00:22:57.900 And I think I've seen such lists of how the process works.

00:23:01.780 I think I've read them on this show, but I don't have them in front of me.

00:23:04.220 I mean, it's like definitely at least hitting one, two, and three or something like that.

00:23:07.920 You know, you're building trust, separating from family.

00:23:10.720 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:11.540 Talking to them about private things, making things that were previously private and previously

00:23:17.340 taboo out in the open to condition them to more comfortably talk about things like sex

00:23:23.520 and genitalia and relationships with adults and to not just separate them from parents,

00:23:30.320 but make their parents seem like an entity that they shouldn't trust.

00:23:34.860 That's right.

00:23:35.040 They don't have them.

00:23:35.720 They're the enemy.

00:23:36.580 That's right.

00:23:37.220 And we're your friend.

00:23:38.460 That's straight groomer behavior.

00:23:40.040 And that's every dystopian novel.

00:23:42.320 That's one aspect of it, except whether it's Brave New World, whether it's 1984, separating

00:23:47.280 kids from parents and creating an enmity.

00:23:48.980 Yeah, so there's a lot of reasons that it would stick.

00:23:53.600 And there's a lot of it's it's very mimetic also.

00:23:55.840 OK, groomer.

00:23:56.620 And then, like I said, it dismisses them and they really, really don't like to be dismissed.

00:24:02.140 And why do you think that is like, what is it about leftism that that OK, groomer bothers

00:24:07.980 them?

00:24:08.320 It seems like even more than people calling them straight up predators, because people

00:24:13.120 have been calling, you know, some of these left wing activists that for a while.

00:24:16.960 But the OK groomer really set them off.

00:24:19.240 Why?

00:24:19.780 Well, I think, A, because it's very mimetic.

00:24:21.700 So they understand sort of how.

00:24:23.440 It's catching on.

00:24:23.720 Yeah.

00:24:24.480 People.

00:24:25.040 It's quick.

00:24:25.640 It's easy.

00:24:26.900 But the dismissiveness thing is really irritating to them.

00:24:29.680 Like I said, they write thousands of pages to justify something you could explain as stupid

00:24:33.960 in a sentence.

00:24:35.380 You know, I even had this.

00:24:36.300 I went to a talk.

00:24:37.620 That's right.

00:24:38.000 I went to this talk recently, you know, the meme where the there's like the leftist

00:24:42.340 with like the huge blurry wall of tiny, tiny letters.

00:24:45.540 And then there's the Chad character with a golden beard.

00:24:47.620 And he's like, I'm not reading that.

00:24:49.600 I had that experience in real life.

00:24:51.440 I gave a talk at Iowa State and this woman came up and I had mentioned apparently this 0.71

00:24:56.160 Marxist professor and it was her doctoral professor.

00:24:59.440 And so she came up very upset.

00:25:01.220 But she had this T-shirt on with like a paragraph written down the front.

00:25:05.360 You know, she's out in the audience. 0.56

00:25:06.700 I'm sitting on standing there on stage and she's like, as you can, this is how she started.

00:25:10.840 As you can probably read by my T-shirt, I don't agree with you or something.

00:25:15.340 And I, the first thing that came to my mind was lady, I'm not reading all that.

00:25:18.600 Yeah.

00:25:19.000 Like, but that's what it is.

00:25:20.460 Is they have, they're trying to justify unreality through words.

00:25:25.040 So they have to use lots of words.

00:25:27.240 But the second, and this is why that meme works, the second you cut through it and just don't

00:25:31.800 take all their jibber jabber seriously, they're lost.

00:25:35.540 Yeah.

00:25:35.660 They don't have anything except words describing nonsense.

00:25:39.440 Yeah.

00:25:39.800 And when you refuse it, they have only more words.

00:25:42.560 So they have to pull you into taking them seriously.

00:25:45.500 And this is how they ensnare.

00:25:46.500 And their words don't have substance.

00:25:47.880 That's also why.

00:25:48.620 That's right.

00:25:48.880 It's either dismissive or definitions.

00:25:51.080 Like those are the two tactics that you can use that really make them mad.

00:25:54.800 That's right.

00:25:55.220 It's okay, groomer, or what do you mean by X?

00:25:58.480 Either of those things really piss them off because they don't really have an answer.

00:26:03.300 That's right.

00:26:03.740 It's really a lot of empty words.

00:26:06.480 And this is how, I mean, this is how they construct their false reality that they have to pull everybody

00:26:12.580 into.

00:26:12.900 And so if you just don't participate, they can't ensnare you in what has been described

00:26:19.280 in some philosophy before.

00:26:20.600 I'm starting to use this terminology as the wizard circle.

00:26:23.060 It's like they're casting a linguistic spell and trapping you in it.

00:26:26.040 Now, the other reason they can't stand it is, of course, it's very damaging to be identified

00:26:30.640 as a groomer, except if you're not one, right?

00:26:33.620 Of course, you can just more or less brush that off if it's false.

00:26:38.000 But the fact is, it's true in many ways at once, but not necessarily everywhere.

00:26:43.860 And it's really provocative to say this, but there is a sense where if we accept their

00:26:50.080 definitions, which we shouldn't in general, but they are bound by them in some sense of

00:26:56.120 structural reality, right?

00:26:58.180 That the left for a very long time has been structurally pedophilic.

00:27:03.040 And I mean that, that you have the postmodern philosophers signing the statement to get

00:27:08.480 rid of age of consent, all of them signing it, these hard leftists.

00:27:12.700 All of the queer theorists of the 60s and 70s that you and I have talked about, pedophilia

00:27:16.900 is an out in the open part of their ideology and their new ideas.

00:27:22.140 That's right.

00:27:22.520 The key, one of the key arguments of the first official paper designated as queer theory,

00:27:27.680 which is thinking sex from Gail Rubin in 1984, is that child porn is a panic.

00:27:33.760 There shouldn't, like it shouldn't be criminalized.

00:27:36.180 That cross-generational sexual encounters is something that we shouldn't be looking down

00:27:41.800 on.

00:27:42.560 It's been there.

00:27:43.580 And so even the ones who aren't actually involved in this are, in their phrasing as they

00:27:48.920 might have it, you know, creating a system or a structure that supports and defends and

00:27:53.200 enables that to carry on despite its harms, which is how they think of how reality is constructed

00:27:58.580 with racism and sexism and trans, whatever, classes, everything's structural.

00:28:04.580 Well, it turns out that the system that they defend with queer theory kind of at its dark 0.57

00:28:08.320 heart is structurally pedophilic.

00:28:10.320 And that goes back, I mean, we could say it goes back to Plato, but we're going to get

00:28:13.560 real controversial to do that.

00:28:15.180 But this is something that you could make an argument.

00:28:17.280 And so they can't, like, they can't just brush it off of them.

00:28:19.780 Yeah.

00:28:20.420 Where they've come at me for weeks now, they're doing it to everybody now on Twitter.

00:28:23.660 They're, okay, groomer, they're trying to, like, use it backwards, which is funny because

00:28:27.120 in a sense, it doesn't stick to anybody but them.

00:28:30.000 And right-wing or conservative or just normal people don't care who the groomer is, left

00:28:36.160 or right.

00:28:36.740 They just don't want groomers. 1.00

00:28:38.160 So if some conservative gets caught...

00:28:39.500 I don't care if it's in the Catholic Church.

00:28:40.580 I don't care if it's someone on the...

00:28:41.900 It doesn't matter to me.

00:28:43.220 I don't care if it's Kanye West defending Balenciaga or Kim Kardashian.

00:28:47.060 It's all wrong.

00:28:47.580 Yeah, and so, but it sticks to them and they can't brush it off.

00:28:53.920 And so it's, I mean, it's, I think, done major...

00:28:56.800 They're proving, I think, right now that it's done major damage.

00:28:59.360 They kicked me off of Twitter.

00:29:00.640 They literally celebrated this.

00:29:02.300 I mean, the one who made the call to get me kicked off Twitter, a trans activist in New 1.00

00:29:07.760 York, apparently, I mean, not apparently, did tweet, you know, I can't do the quote from

00:29:14.400 Game of Thrones exactly, but it's like, I want James to know it was me or whatever, or tell

00:29:18.600 James I want him to know it was me, whatever the quote from, you know, riffing off of that.

00:29:22.600 And then when I got back on, these people went berserk and directly said that they were going

00:29:27.040 to hound me off of Twitter by harassing me and by making, if I'm going to be back on,

00:29:33.100 they're going to make my experience.

00:29:34.020 And they're so miserable that I don't want to be there and I'll leave.

00:29:38.380 And it's kind of funny because, like, I don't want to be there anyway, so now I'm having

00:29:41.700 to, like, retool my psychology because they can play into that, the fact that I already

00:29:46.500 didn't want to be there.

00:29:48.020 Yeah.

00:29:48.780 Yeah.

00:29:49.180 I want to talk a little bit more in a second about, like, we talked before the camera started

00:29:53.780 rolling that this has been a rough couple of weeks.

00:29:55.820 I'm guessing that has something to do with it.

00:29:58.180 It does.

00:29:59.060 Yeah.

00:29:59.480 Well, I mean, it's also just been a busy month.

00:30:03.080 Yeah.

00:30:03.500 With abnormal stresses.

00:30:05.380 Yeah.

00:30:05.580 So, one thing, like, for example, I'm leaving to go to Phoenix this afternoon and I've got

00:30:10.940 a workshop that I'm doing on kind of the esoteric religious aspects of all the woke stuff.

00:30:17.640 So, I'm really, you know, at the front edge of what I'm researching and understanding.

00:30:23.280 So, I've spent a lot of time trying to put this together.

00:30:25.960 But two, three weeks ago, whatever it was, it turns out I got invited to do a debate about

00:30:30.260 woke at the Oxford Union.

00:30:31.380 So, I'm flying across the ocean, doing the whole thing.

00:30:36.160 And that, I put some time and effort into preparing.

00:30:40.460 So, in other words, I didn't prepare any for these workshops.

00:30:42.780 So, it's just this weird time on the calendar where I have this massive weighty thing.

00:30:46.400 I just had a book come out yesterday.

00:30:48.540 I've got all these kind of big things hitting at once.

00:30:50.680 And then, simultaneously, I get led on Twitter, which is the most distracting place on earth.

00:30:55.040 And got hit with, like, a massive struggle session, which even if you can, like, I can unplug and set it aside.

00:31:02.700 That doesn't matter.

00:31:03.700 But it's very, like, you know what's going on.

00:31:08.540 And people are writing articles about it.

00:31:10.600 And it's like, I couldn't quite get away from it because people were sending it to me.

00:31:14.640 And I'd open my Twitter and just kind of stare in shock.

00:31:17.500 Yeah, let's talk about what that is, if you're okay with that.

00:31:21.420 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:21.460 So, there was accusations of you, like, taking a picture with some kind of, like, sexual predator or something.

00:31:29.260 I saw that George Takai was even...

00:31:31.060 George Takai, yeah.

00:31:32.000 Yeah, so, basically, they're saying, oh, the person who accuses the left of being groomers, he's actually with a groomer.

00:31:38.640 So, like, what was that?

00:31:40.100 What went on?

00:31:40.700 So, I got invited to, just to tell the story, because I put it on Twitter.

00:31:43.980 Normally, they're trying to struggle session me into telling the story.

00:31:46.640 So, normally, I would say, I can't tell the story.

00:31:49.300 And then, I look all evasive.

00:31:50.380 And so, the goal is, of course, to separate people.

00:31:52.780 They want to separate people and not trust me.

00:31:54.560 They want people to not trust each other, who are, you know, friends or fans or whatever it happens to be.

00:32:02.580 But I told the story on Twitter later on a Friday night, right after Elon Musk said he was going to tell everything about Twitter, so that there was a distraction.

00:32:09.240 But it's there.

00:32:10.580 And I've actually recorded a podcast of my own that will come out sooner or later about it.

00:32:15.280 But the long and short is, there's this event.

00:32:17.860 It's called the Better Discourse event.

00:32:19.080 And they did these things, these shows, these debate shows in Fort Worth.

00:32:24.220 They've done a number of them, usually two a year.

00:32:26.060 These are great people, as far as I know.

00:32:28.140 They're good friends of mine.

00:32:29.300 They've supported me.

00:32:30.140 And I'm talking about a group called Myth-Informed Milwaukee.

00:32:35.020 And so, they host it.

00:32:36.360 And they're friends with a woman named Nikki Klein.

00:32:38.780 Nikki Klein was on Battlestar Galactica.

00:32:41.440 This is, I think, the, and she was a character I kind of knew on Twitter.

00:32:44.860 And at the first time I went to one of their things, this was the extent of what I knew.

00:32:48.760 Met Nikki.

00:32:49.260 Okay, cool.

00:32:51.480 Somebody I kind of recognized from Twitter.

00:32:53.100 We hung out, you know, at the event in the green room.

00:32:56.280 It was kind of a big public green room with food.

00:32:58.400 And, like, there's usually 20 or 30 people back there involved with the event, hanging out, carrying on, whatever.

00:33:04.120 We got along.

00:33:05.060 She was nice.

00:33:06.340 She's a somewhat private person.

00:33:08.000 I don't know anything about her life.

00:33:09.200 We're at an event.

00:33:09.620 But then I come back to the event again six months later, the next one, which was in April this year.

00:33:16.500 And I found out that she was in this Nixxiom sex cult thing. 1.00

00:33:21.720 Yeah, which I had never heard of.

00:33:23.140 It's like NXIVM.

00:33:25.680 Yes.

00:33:26.200 The notorious multi-level marketing company turned sex cult.

00:33:29.420 I had never heard of this until they started seeing these accusations.

00:33:32.140 Apparently, this was a big deal.

00:33:33.500 I don't watch TV.

00:33:34.660 I haven't watched television since 2003.

00:33:36.940 If it's some, like, thing that blew up in pop culture, unless it's directly related to, like, woke stuff, I don't know anything about it.

00:33:43.900 And I wasn't even, like, paying attention to stuff like that whenever that was.

00:33:46.940 So I had no idea what that was.

00:33:48.120 So I got told she's involved in this.

00:33:50.280 And I'm like, all right, whatever.

00:33:51.940 And we come back to the event.

00:33:54.500 We're hanging out again.

00:33:55.540 She's just this person who's there and nice.

00:33:57.880 And we have, you know, rapport.

00:33:59.840 And we were going around.

00:34:01.280 And it turns out that I took a picture with a friend of mine, this guy Colin Wright.

00:34:05.400 He swiped right on Twitter.

00:34:09.200 We have, like, this kind of long story.

00:34:11.440 He wrote me this kind of, he was in college, a PhD.

00:34:14.840 He was doing his PhD.

00:34:16.560 And he wrote me this kind of long, like, stressed out email.

00:34:19.740 And I was like, you should publish this.

00:34:21.300 And I helped him work it up.

00:34:22.520 And he rewrote it, submitted it to Quillette.

00:34:24.860 That was his first published essay.

00:34:26.320 And now he's, like, a great resource on all of this.

00:34:29.300 He's a biologist on all this queer theory, sex, gender stuff.

00:34:32.860 He's really doing a great job.

00:34:34.060 And so I hadn't, I'd worked with this guy for, like, three years.

00:34:37.700 I hadn't met him in person.

00:34:39.400 And so we met in person.

00:34:40.480 And so we're playing around and just, like, being silly and getting to know each other.

00:34:44.100 And we're sitting in these beanbag chairs doing the iconic manspread thing from my profile picture, which is my, like, running joke.

00:34:50.140 Which, by the way, is a self-effacing joke.

00:34:52.480 Yeah.

00:34:52.960 People don't even know that when that picture was taken, I was making fun of myself for an event in which I had done it.

00:34:58.660 And I saw the video and was, like, oh, my gosh.

00:35:00.920 I'm so embarrassing.

00:35:02.780 And so I, like, make it my point.

00:35:03.680 Because of how you're sitting.

00:35:04.660 And then there are people, though, on Twitter who, like, legitimately criticize you for it.

00:35:08.740 There's, like, there's no reason for you to sit like that.

00:35:10.540 I'm literally, in the instant when it was being taken, I was literally making fun of myself.

00:35:15.100 Yeah.

00:35:15.340 In front of a crowd sitting on the exact same spot to just add flavor to the story where Winston Churchill gave his first public talk.

00:35:24.040 And so here I am, manspreading like a fool, making fun of myself.

00:35:27.860 And somebody took a picture.

00:35:28.580 I made it my profile picture and laughed.

00:35:30.200 And then it became this kind of, like, running joke.

00:35:31.780 Right.

00:35:32.120 So I took one with Colin.

00:35:34.420 And, you know, I said something like I taught him everything he knows and put it on Twitter.

00:35:38.660 And then Nikki was standing there, like, we're all just kind of around.

00:35:41.360 And I was like, you know, we should take one.

00:35:43.400 And you should say, you taught me everything I know.

00:35:45.760 And she, being a woman and manspreading, ha, ha, ha. 1.00

00:35:48.980 And she was wearing pants. 0.76

00:35:50.380 So, okay.

00:35:51.720 And so we sat in two chairs, took a picture.

00:35:55.400 Everybody's all, like, accuses me of all these things.

00:35:57.160 The guy that took the picture is gay, like, very gay. 0.90

00:36:00.280 And, like, it's like we're all buddies and just hanging out backstage.

00:36:03.300 But we're, like, whatever.

00:36:05.060 And she put the picture up and taught him everything I know.

00:36:08.340 And then within about an hour, she was like, that was probably a bad idea.

00:36:11.520 Do you know what's going on?

00:36:12.280 I was like, I don't even want to know.

00:36:13.760 And because she was connected with this thing.

00:36:16.580 Now, of course, she's been, you know, convicted of nothing.

00:36:19.600 I knew that there was a connection, but I don't know what it is.

00:36:22.660 She pled guilty to racketeering, or her wife, I guess she's a lesbian, pled guilty to racketeering 1.00

00:36:29.800 and racketeering conspiracy in 2020, I guess, because of this sex cult.

00:36:34.260 Yeah, this cult thing is a complicated story in its own right.

00:36:38.020 I barely know what it is.

00:36:40.500 There were, I don't know if they were grooming adult women to join the cult.

00:36:44.800 I don't know how that works.

00:36:45.840 It's not my business.

00:36:47.960 Yikes.

00:36:49.280 Have I ever talked to you about your sex life?

00:36:51.400 No.

00:36:52.260 You usually don't talk to people about their sex lives when you're, like, hey, it's the

00:36:56.220 second time I met you.

00:36:57.400 Tell me about your...

00:36:58.100 So you just didn't know.

00:36:58.900 You didn't know that she was involved in this.

00:37:00.780 I knew she was.

00:37:01.420 I just didn't know what it was and didn't care because we're at an event and we're just

00:37:05.280 nice people being nice to each other.

00:37:07.080 Like, and I don't actually, I mean, I've heard her side of the story, which is that

00:37:13.200 the really disgusting charges against the guy that ran the thing, which is this Keith

00:37:19.160 Renier guy, are the result of planted evidence by the FBI, from which I understand some of

00:37:25.680 this has come to light is probably true, although I'm not, it's not a story I keep up with.

00:37:31.420 It's not, like, it's not what I do.

00:37:33.440 Um, I'm too busy reading books that are the worst books in history instead to keep up

00:37:40.480 with this.

00:37:40.820 So it's like, I kind of, I didn't know what it did, if that matters, but this is a person

00:37:47.120 that was nice to me.

00:37:48.240 We were being nice.

00:37:48.980 We had rapport.

00:37:49.640 We're at the same thing.

00:37:50.320 We took a picture making an obvious joke.

00:37:52.220 And what it is, is that the left has nothing on me.

00:37:56.800 And so they have to sink their teeth into the closest thing they can.

00:38:00.460 And it's actually not really about me.

00:38:02.140 I tested this.

00:38:02.900 I actually, when they were going berserk to see what happened, I ran into Roger Stone

00:38:07.080 at an event also, which I didn't even know who he was, but somebody was like, that's

00:38:11.140 Roger Stone.

00:38:11.660 Go get a picture with him.

00:38:12.460 I was like, uh, is that a good idea?

00:38:13.920 Okay, whatever.

00:38:14.640 And I just walked up to him and, you know, he's like, Hey, I'm Roger.

00:38:18.840 What's your name?

00:38:19.340 And I was like, I'm James.

00:38:20.020 He's like, what did you do?

00:38:20.880 Cause I didn't do nothing.

00:38:21.800 And I thought that was kind of funny.

00:38:22.860 And we took a picture and, um, I put it on Twitter during the whole mess.

00:38:26.940 And I was like, Hey, look, leftist.

00:38:28.400 I took a picture with somebody else.

00:38:29.480 They didn't talk about it.

00:38:30.280 They've never touched it.

00:38:31.040 Never even like Roger Stone, right?

00:38:33.340 And there's one of their super boogeymen.

00:38:35.220 And then all they care about is discrediting the okay groomer. 0.88

00:38:38.720 So this they've proven, in my opinion, I've did some experiments here.

00:38:41.580 They've proven in my opinion that all they want to do is discredit my use of okay groomer

00:38:45.880 and thus okay groomer itself, because it's not me.

00:38:48.620 They care about, they don't care about people at all.

00:38:51.700 They care about narratives.

00:38:52.680 They care about linguistic control and okay groomer is really messing up their project.

00:38:57.820 Okay, so they're, they think that they're trying to point out some kind of hypocrisy in the

00:39:13.020 same way that if, I don't know, if someone like, I'm sure that Obama has talked about

00:39:17.880 like the dangers or the evil of antisemitism, but he has a picture with Louis Farrakhan,

00:39:22.540 who is one of the worst perpetrators of antisemitism.

00:39:24.700 So I guess they're trying to do something like that.

00:39:27.460 Yeah, they're trying to, well, yeah.

00:39:29.900 I mean, they're also just trying to harass me off the platform.

00:39:32.740 I mean, I don't know because a lot of people just don't see it and it's, you see your notifications

00:39:37.980 and other people don't see most of your notifications.

00:39:40.420 A lot of people that try to interact with any of my threads on Twitter saw this because

00:39:44.680 I don't know the actual number, but I would guess that they posted this picture or a screenshot

00:39:51.140 of this picture where the extra leftist added words of, you know, vile insinuation over

00:39:57.100 a hundred thousand times in about a week.

00:40:00.000 Every time I opened my Twitter, if I looked at my notifications, 48 out of the top 50 things

00:40:06.240 would be that person deserves a block. 0.71

00:40:08.440 And then I have all these people just block them and ignore them.

00:40:10.940 I'm like, I spent 12 hours one day just blocking people and couldn't keep up.

00:40:15.200 There is no just block them and ignore them.

00:40:17.820 I wasted an entire day and then I gave up on blocking them after that, trying to block

00:40:23.460 people because in the past, it's actually stemmed the tide, but they're hell bent on getting

00:40:28.660 me to hate Twitter so much or hate social media so much that I leave, which it's funny that

00:40:36.300 if I end up leaving Twitter, it will have nothing to do with them.

00:40:39.540 Um, but it's frankly, I'm like maybe the only person in right wing spaces right now, but

00:40:45.200 I don't trust what Elon Musk wants to do with it.

00:40:47.920 I'm glad he's opened it.

00:40:49.180 I want the free speech.

00:40:50.240 I think it's a necessary thing.

00:40:51.460 I just had a great talk with Charlie Kirk about that the other day.

00:40:54.400 Um, and I think it will be transformational, but he said he wants to turn it into WeChat.

00:40:58.940 WeChat is how they ensnared China. 0.97

00:41:00.460 Do not trust.

00:41:01.620 I don't even know what that is.

00:41:03.400 WeChat's your one-stop shop.

00:41:04.760 It's basically, uh, something like Twitter, Facebook, it's its own social media thing,

00:41:11.440 plus signal, plus tick tock, plus your bank, all your financial transactions.

00:41:18.140 It's like your one-stop shop.

00:41:20.580 Like at most places, last time I went to China, which was in 2019, it was most places.

00:41:25.460 Like if you go to somewhere, not like a small little shop or a tourist trap or whatever,

00:41:29.660 but if you went to like the mall and we go to the mall cause it's a trip every time.

00:41:33.580 Most of the stores only will accept WeChat or bank of China QR payment or strongly prefer

00:41:41.740 it, or even offer you discounts to use it.

00:41:44.260 So it's like one app to control them all with your identity looped into your bank account

00:41:50.280 to your everything.

00:41:52.040 And you can just imagine, I mean, that's how does the social credit system stop you from

00:41:57.040 using money?

00:41:58.200 Well, if you can only pay with a QR code in an app, that's how the social credit system

00:42:02.740 stops you from using money.

00:42:05.100 And so I'm not worried about it to the degree that some people are, that this is this free

00:42:10.620 speech moment on Twitter is a Maoist 100 flowers campaign.

00:42:15.100 Have you heard of this?

00:42:16.000 The Bai Hua. 0.62

00:42:17.240 So Mao at one point, after he seized power, said China is a place of free speech.

00:42:22.860 We're going to have free speech.

00:42:24.100 We're not going to be like the evil, you know, nationalists, the Kuomintang. 0.58

00:42:27.980 We're going to do this.

00:42:29.240 Let 100 flowers bloom.

00:42:31.120 And then everybody, you know, at first was like, wait a minute, he's a dictator.

00:42:35.020 And then they started to speak up and he let it go for a year and a half.

00:42:38.320 What are the 100 flowers a metaphor for?

00:42:39.920 Free speech.

00:42:41.280 Okay.

00:42:41.840 Flowers of speech blooming.

00:42:43.340 Okay.

00:42:43.540 And what they did was made lists of everybody who was against the government and killed

00:42:46.560 them all afterwards.

00:42:47.500 Right.

00:42:48.060 Yeah.

00:42:48.340 They actually did this to our military, by the way.

00:42:50.200 And if you said anything wrong, like you mentioned earlier, people might not know or catch

00:42:53.300 this reference, but you mentioned struggle sessions, how people are trying to struggle

00:42:56.940 session you into a confession about that picture, obviously, that comes from Maoist

00:43:01.620 China, as you know, but not everyone knows, people being tortured and publicly humiliated

00:43:08.140 because they said something wrong or even suspected of thinking something wrong and, you know,

00:43:14.720 tortured them, humiliated them into finally saying two plus two equals five.

00:43:19.740 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:20.340 They did often, especially as a cultural revolution rolled on, got physically violent.

00:43:26.420 But the point of it is actually guilt and shame.

00:43:28.780 It's to put people in a guilt and shame spiral until they psychologically break and come over

00:43:33.220 to their side.

00:43:33.980 And a lot of people don't know this, by the way.

00:43:35.200 We don't call them struggle sessions because we look at that and say, wow, they're really

00:43:38.100 making people struggle.

00:43:39.440 We call them struggle sessions because their term for that in Chinese, which they actually

00:43:43.320 use themselves, was pi pan do jang, which means critical theory struggle session.

00:43:48.360 It literally means to struggle or to wrestle or to grapple with, to be struggled through

00:43:57.180 self-critique and social critique.

00:44:00.380 And so we call them struggle sessions because the Chinese literally called them struggles.

00:44:04.920 Right.

00:44:05.220 And we saw it so much, especially after 2020 and George Floyd.

00:44:09.200 I mean, I think the black square was a part of the struggle session.

00:44:12.220 That's right.

00:44:12.560 People apologizing.

00:44:13.360 I bring this up a lot because I'll never forget about this.

00:44:17.780 They're like in the mommy Instagram world, two companies.

00:44:21.760 There was one who is a like a sleep training company for babies.

00:44:25.160 And then there was one that makes baby wraps.

00:44:27.500 And both of them were accused in different ways of racism.

00:44:31.120 The sleep trainer, because she had donated a thousand dollars to the Trump campaign.

00:44:35.140 And then the baby wrap company, because they tried to patent a baby wrap that really Africans 0.88

00:44:40.500 had like developed like a thousand years ago or something like that.

00:44:44.500 Well, the one who donated to Trump decided that she was not going to apologize, that she

00:44:48.660 was just going to say, I'm going to keep doing my job.

00:44:51.300 You can stick around if you want to.

00:44:52.500 You don't have to.

00:44:53.540 And I mean, she was totally harassed. 0.95

00:44:56.120 Her like paid for materials put public so people wouldn't have to pay for them anymore. 1.00

00:45:00.060 And then this other girl over here, she decided to just continue to acquiesce. 1.00

00:45:04.900 She did this public apology where she was crying.

00:45:08.080 That wasn't good enough.

00:45:08.900 The activist said, you're making this about you.

00:45:11.400 She tried to do it again, making it not about her.

00:45:14.660 They said, you know, you're on the right path, but you're not there yet.

00:45:17.920 You still have to do better, do the work, all of this stuff.

00:45:20.700 She decided not to pursue the patent anymore, which is absolutely ridiculous.

00:45:24.900 And she, I mean, wasn't better for it. 0.91

00:45:27.620 Like she didn't gain customers for it.

00:45:30.480 She just tried to kind of assuage her guilt.

00:45:32.400 It was exactly a struggle session.

00:45:34.480 They did psychologically break her.

00:45:36.520 She literally confessed in her first apology that she thought about committing suicide.

00:45:40.180 And still the activist said, stop making this about you.

00:45:43.700 You're making yourself a victim.

00:45:46.300 That is a critical theory struggle session that happened after George Floyd.

00:45:49.920 That is straight out of Mao.

00:45:52.080 If you read about what Mao's prisons, Mao's schools, which I bothered to do.

00:45:56.740 If you actually read about them, it's exactly what they're talking about.

00:46:02.300 First of all, they called struggle sessions a form of helping you.

00:46:05.760 They were helping you want to confess and helping you want to see your life from the position of the people or the oppressed,

00:46:13.060 as we would update it into, you know, out of Chinese communist language and into, you know, the modern pedagogy of the oppressed kind of woke.

00:46:22.240 And so they were, it's all, you're making it about you.

00:46:24.800 You're not seeing this from the position of the oppressed who are being injured further by you recentering yourself and your needs.

00:46:32.180 That's the idea.

00:46:33.400 And we're helping you see the proper perspective, what they called in China, Renmin Lichang, which is the people's standpoint, which is the communist standpoint, of course.

00:46:42.740 And then as this progresses, when they break you and you start to confess, you actually start to see yourself as guilty.

00:46:48.080 You don't just feel it from what the way the prisoners in Mao's prisons described it, you know that it's not true, but you kind of believe it.

00:46:56.600 And you're in this like weird brainwashed dual space where you believe it and don't at the same time.

00:47:01.960 Very double think, very 1984, very psychologically broken.

00:47:06.860 And then when you start to do it and you go far enough down their confession, apology, break, apology, the whole thing, give up your business road.

00:47:14.640 Then you get to start what they call shui shi in Chinese, which is study.

00:47:18.460 That's where they start telling you, you need to do better.

00:47:20.580 You need to read the books.

00:47:21.720 Here's this book.

00:47:22.580 Here's that book.

00:47:23.340 Here's this book.

00:47:24.020 Here's that book.

00:47:24.640 And you start reading the brainwashing literature after they've made you psychologically vulnerable and absolutely desperate for relief from the psychological abuse and social abuse they're putting you through.

00:47:35.040 Because the goal is to make you feel like you are not, it's not possible to be liked by your social group any longer, to be respected by your social group.

00:47:43.740 And therefore, for you to start to internalize, maybe it's me.

00:47:47.480 Maybe there's something actually wrong with me.

00:47:49.240 Maybe I actually did commit a crime.

00:47:50.960 Maybe I did do a cultural appropriation.

00:47:53.320 Maybe I did center my own feelings.

00:47:55.440 And they're trying to make you internalize that guilt and that shame so that you'll become psychologically vulnerable.

00:48:00.400 At which point, if they believe that you're deep enough into it, immediately they're going to give you some cult indoctrination material, white fragility or whatever else.

00:48:09.300 Yep.

00:48:10.320 It is happening not just in the racial sense, but also when you're looking at the sexual revolution, whatever you want to call it, queer theory.

00:48:18.400 As you said, white fragility basically is a struggle session for white people to basically say, as you've talked about so many times, any kind of refutation that you might feel towards someone calling you a racist and saying that you're a part of the problem is just evidence of your fragility.

00:48:35.540 That's right.

00:48:36.140 And so it really is a form of psychological breaking.

00:48:40.180 I mean, it's like you're being like click trained.

00:48:43.440 You know how you click train dogs when they're doing something good or doing something bad.

00:48:46.980 You give them a treat or whatever.

00:48:48.340 That's exactly what it is.

00:48:48.920 I mean, it's like as soon as you have the thought as the white person, well, I'm not racist or well, I didn't do that or my parents didn't own slaves or something.

00:48:57.340 It's like you've got Robin DiAngelo or whoever the activist is on Instagram clicking and say, nope, nope.

00:49:04.120 Or if you say something right, clicking you and saying like, here's a little treat, which comes in the form of like calling you an ally or saying that you're unproblematic or whatever.

00:49:13.520 That's right.

00:49:13.980 It is.

00:49:14.900 It's operant conditioning is what it is.

00:49:16.700 It's operant conditioning achieved through social manipulation.

00:49:21.140 Virtue signaling.

00:49:22.200 That's right.

00:49:22.580 Virtue signaling is actually the thing that you do to start to get yourself out of it, but they'll accuse you of that too.

00:49:28.460 It's the blood over the door, so they'll pass over you.

00:49:30.820 Right.

00:49:31.320 And let me just tell you, there's not enough blood.

00:49:33.900 Yeah.

00:49:34.220 You can't put enough blood on the door.

00:49:35.880 In fact, the people in the prisons lived in constant fear knowing if you, you know, so once you get into the study thing, they let up on the struggle and your time was more pleasant, which by the way, psychologically makes you work even harder at confessing and studying and brainwashing yourself.

00:49:50.820 Because you're now feeling this weird sense of commitment to this thing that has the power to punish and reward you.

00:49:58.920 They've, they've literally dominated you.

00:50:01.640 And then they, every now and then you slip up, you make a mistake and they struggle you again for a couple of days to remind you, by the way, we can throw you right back into that anytime.

00:50:09.820 And this is, if you actually look at how the woke treat each other, that's what they do.

00:50:15.200 That's exactly how they treat each other.

00:50:17.700 Yes.

00:50:18.040 And so this, this isn't new.

00:50:20.060 Yeah.

00:50:20.460 This is every bit as evil as it always was.

00:50:23.680 Yeah.

00:50:24.160 It's results are every bit as terrible as one can predict.

00:50:28.360 Yeah.

00:50:29.160 Resisting, it's very hard.

00:50:30.380 I mean, you gave a great example of somebody who did.

00:50:33.160 You say, you know what?

00:50:34.920 Treat me how you want.

00:50:35.840 I'm carrying on.

00:50:37.600 But the thing is, is if you read about, you know, Mao's environment that he created, the psychiatrist writing the books explains as Robert Lifton is a very prominent one.

00:50:46.520 And he, to quote him, he says, everybody who is subjected to this, it penetrates into their psychology.

00:50:54.340 There is no avoiding the manipulation of social ostracism and shame and guilt and then self-blame.

00:51:01.880 There is no avoiding it.

00:51:03.180 So these, you know, reports like, I became suicidal.

00:51:07.080 Yes.

00:51:07.800 This is how, this is, this is how it works.

00:51:10.420 And it's, goal is to lead you into believing the way they need you to believe, even if you believe otherwise at your core.

00:51:19.940 Yeah.

00:51:20.880 You know, I see it.

00:51:21.900 You talked about like the woke, treating the woke that way.

00:51:24.480 There are some accounts, I think one of my favorites is still kicked off Twitter, called Males of Reddit.

00:51:29.480 And it's basically just showing these, you know, Reddit threads between men who identify as women talking about all of their issues.

00:51:38.660 But sometimes they'll put up there like a post by a non-trans person asking a question about transgenderism.

00:51:46.860 And you will see, like, for example, maybe it's a story about how there used to be husband who is now transitioning into a wife is like, I don't know, doing something that bothers them or seems really misogynistic or really problematic or perverted or whatever it is.

00:52:03.360 Like, you'll see that as this person is trying to explain their problem and get advice, they are caveating every sentence.

00:52:11.040 Oh, yeah.

00:52:11.740 Well, I'm not transphobic.

00:52:13.100 And I know she's really a woman.

00:52:14.900 And I really want to be sensitive to her.

00:52:17.540 And I really want her to express her femininity. 0.84

00:52:20.380 But I think she raped me last night. 0.97

00:52:22.180 Like, before they say the egregious thing, they have to cushion everything that they say to try to fend off any, like, criticism because they are trying to avoid the struggle session.

00:52:34.580 They're trying to show, hey, I'm struggling myself.

00:52:37.040 You don't have to struggle me.

00:52:38.480 I'm struggling myself.

00:52:39.500 That's right.

00:52:39.940 When really, at the end of the day, they don't really believe that their husband can be a wife.

00:52:44.460 That's what it is.

00:52:45.300 That's the core of the Chinese process is actually to get you to do self-criticism.

00:52:48.780 In fact, it was mandatory in the prisons.

00:52:50.900 And if you weren't doing enough of it, they would struggle you for you.

00:52:53.220 So they're actually practicing this.

00:52:54.880 In regards to, like, the Passover illusion, though, it's like you're not painting the blood on the door.

00:53:00.400 You're, like, spraying it with a fire hose constantly to try to protect yourself.

00:53:03.960 And like I said, there's just not enough blood.

00:53:05.960 You brought up the schools a minute ago.

00:53:07.600 And I want to make kind of really clear, this is what they're doing to our girls in particular, but to our kids, period.

00:53:14.180 They've kind of just dropped boys.

00:53:16.400 Boys are just, just give them Adderall or something and get rid of them, right? 1.00

00:53:21.480 Girls, on the other hand. 0.99

00:53:23.160 Suck their testosterone, drop their testosterone levels low.

00:53:27.720 Yeah, well, they've achieved that.

00:53:28.760 So now they have to destroy girls and perhaps create infertility on the other side. 0.99

00:53:34.580 But what are they doing?

00:53:35.820 So if you're a basic white girl, can you imagine something worse than that? 0.82

00:53:40.040 So first of all, you're listening to Critical Race Theory 24-7 about how your race is implicated in all these horrors.

00:53:45.600 There's all this racism.

00:53:46.880 You benefit from racism.

00:53:48.000 You're a bad person, blah, blah, blah. 0.94

00:53:49.320 Well, you can't get your skin off you as much as you might want to at that point.

00:53:53.940 And so what do they say?

00:53:54.740 Well, you know, it's possible that, you know, there are other gender identities.

00:53:57.780 So they funnel you toward this queer theory as your route of escape from the psychological pressure they put on you about race and social pressure they put on you about race. 0.98

00:54:07.580 And all your little friends are all bought into this too.

00:54:11.100 So their struggle, it's mostly, it's not the judges in the Chinese prisons that struggle you.

00:54:15.620 It's your cellmates because they're climbing their way out of prison.

00:54:18.860 And if they don't struggle you really well, they get dropped back down to the bottom and have to start again.

00:54:23.200 And so all their buddies are like, oh, yeah, you don't want to be that.

00:54:26.280 You don't want to be that, blah, blah, blah.

00:54:27.320 Well, so then you'd say, you know what, you finally cave in and you're like, well, I'm just a tomboy.

00:54:30.860 Well, they've got articles written about the long racist history of tomboys.

00:54:33.760 And so then you say, well, I'm non-binary.

00:54:36.220 You take that next step.

00:54:37.500 You're not really willing to plunge into trans. 1.00

00:54:40.020 Imagine you're a 13-year-old girl getting groomed in this direction.

00:54:43.600 And they, well, that's two.

00:54:45.380 Non-binary was created by white people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, to reinforce some binary, something, something. 0.98

00:54:50.480 They've got a whole line of just bullying and bullying and bullying until really your only escape.

00:54:55.640 And this is what Lifton says about the whole environment of Maoism is they put you under outstanding psychiatric and social pressure.

00:55:02.560 And then give you a very narrow range of possible responses that always drive you toward what they want.

00:55:09.740 And so what's left is straight up queer identities, like all the way, which they will also force you to recognize as political identities in the correct way or they don't count. 0.91

00:55:20.700 So people are like, oh, they're social contagion.

00:55:23.020 Like I'm thinking, yes, because that happens.

00:55:26.240 Bulimia was like the poster case of that. 0.99

00:55:29.700 But no, there is an active driven pump.

00:55:34.900 It's not just contagion.

00:55:36.120 It's like the media and the schools are spraying the infectious agent or it's not even right.

00:55:41.840 It's more like to use another Chinese metaphor, which I've experienced in my own life.

00:55:45.700 It's like, have you ever seen those videos where they're, because I got to do this, where there are too many people and they're trying to get them on the subway and there are literally people pushing people, packing them in like officers, like shoving people in to pack more people into the subway.

00:55:58.160 It's like that.

00:55:59.120 They're pushing people into queer theory, jamming them in there until it's just absolutely full by creating awful Maoist social pressures and psychological pressures. 0.93

00:56:07.880 And we're not talking now about adults who almost all break.

00:56:13.160 We're talking about 12 and 13 year old girls.

00:56:15.520 In fact, that age group, that seventh grade, eighth grade age group is absolutely crucial.

00:56:20.500 Ninth grade because there's a huge transition.

00:56:23.080 Talk to teachers.

00:56:23.860 They'll tell you sixth graders are all still sweet little kids.

00:56:26.800 Seventh graders start getting weird and a little stinky.

00:56:29.700 Eighth graders are almost all little jerks.

00:56:32.320 And by ninth grade, they're all little bastards, right?

00:56:34.480 That's the progression of those difficult years.

00:56:38.260 And they are capitalizing upon that natural tumult to spin these kids off into orbit and to break them, to destroy them.

00:56:46.040 It's evil.

00:56:47.500 There's a lot going on in that time.

00:56:49.380 You've got hormones. 1.00

00:56:50.780 You do have the social aspect of you start wanting to be cool.

00:56:54.100 Mom and dad all of a sudden have no idea what they're talking about.

00:56:57.120 And so you get more influences and more authority from celebrities, from friends, from older friends, from TikTok.

00:57:03.560 And not only are they introduced to this stuff, I also think that early sexualization of kids that is happening, especially girls, through things like TikTok, I think it desensitizes a lot of kids to just – it desensitizes them to perversion and to things that really they are not ready to be introduced to.

00:57:25.780 Correct.

00:57:25.880 They can't think through it yet.

00:57:27.340 No, that's right.

00:57:28.080 They can't even logically understand a lot of the stuff that's presented to them.

00:57:32.700 And then along the lines of what you were saying, there's not really an incentive to.

00:57:37.040 What is the incentive for a teenager who, unless – I mean, they've got really just great grounding and they really have a moral compass, they're Christians, whatever it is.

00:57:47.560 Like, what is the incentive for a 13-year-old to say, no, I'm not going to announce my pronouns.

00:57:54.120 I'm not going to be non-binary. 0.99

00:57:55.420 There's no such thing as non-binary.

00:57:57.780 There – every incentive is to go along to get along.

00:58:01.520 You don't want to get bullied.

00:58:02.980 Who wants to be harassed on top of the bullying and harassment that, you know, has always happened since the beginning of time at this age?

00:58:10.380 Like, who wants to be the different person or, in the sense, you know, like morally different?

00:58:16.880 Who wants to go against the grain?

00:58:18.420 Who wants to swim upstream?

00:58:20.340 It's never been cool to do that.

00:58:21.980 It's never been easy to do that.

00:58:23.240 And now it's harder than ever because there are so many social pressures to go along with it.

00:58:29.140 That's right.

00:58:29.260 I can't imagine.

00:58:30.200 I'm so glad that we didn't have – I didn't have all of that social media when I was in middle school and high school.

00:58:35.360 I think I would have been crushed in a lot of ways by it.

00:58:37.700 Oh, yeah.

00:58:38.340 Absolutely.

00:58:39.000 Absolutely.

00:58:39.360 And this is why what's happening between the social sphere, which is reinforced by the social media apps very, very strongly, the entertainment world – hi, Disney – and then schools.

00:58:52.400 Normally what you might have is these influences coming in from a – maybe social media, but if we go backwards in time, that's not there.

00:58:58.540 But media.

00:58:59.120 Maybe Disney's putting out creeper stuff or whatever or whoever.

00:59:02.120 Nickelodeon's making some weird stuff.

00:59:03.820 Normally the adults acting in loco parentis at the schools are tamping down on that.

00:59:08.360 And now they're not.

00:59:10.140 They're pretending to spray water on the fire lit in these poor kids' souls and they're spraying gasoline instead.

00:59:17.280 Who?

00:59:17.680 The teachers.

00:59:18.640 Oh, yeah.

00:59:19.080 Yeah.

00:59:19.420 The social emotional learning programs, which are going to reframe everything through equity, everything through inclusion, everything through sustainability.

00:59:26.120 These programs are designed to feed that.

00:59:30.340 And, of course, what do they say is the purpose of these?

00:59:32.920 We talked about white fragility, right? 1.00

00:59:35.220 Just linguistic game, no tricks here.

00:59:39.260 What are some opposites?

00:59:40.400 And I know you're going to be on the spot.

00:59:41.520 What is an antonym, an opposite of fragility?

00:59:46.800 Strength.

00:59:47.120 Strength or resilience, right?

00:59:49.020 Yeah.

00:59:49.220 What is social emotional learning supposed to teach?

00:59:51.340 Resilience.

00:59:52.180 So what does resilience mean?

00:59:53.400 Not being fragile.

00:59:54.600 What does being fragile mean?

00:59:56.160 Not accepting your brainwashing.

00:59:58.240 So resilience means accepting your brainwashing in their weird little linguistic universe.

01:00:02.540 And this, yeah, in the same way that you just said, like, equity doesn't actually, equity means inequity when it comes to progressivism.

01:00:09.780 Well, this is what it means.

01:00:11.000 Let me just, because I do this on stage a lot now, and it works every time, which is amazing.

01:00:15.740 I took a big risk the first time I did it.

01:00:17.480 I thought, I'm going to fall on my face.

01:00:19.060 But I just did it.

01:00:19.840 I was like, all right, I'm going to define a word for you, and I want you to tell me what word I've just defined.

01:00:25.040 This is the definition.

01:00:26.640 An administered political economy in which shares are adjusted so that citizens are made equal.

01:00:31.940 And every single time, the crowd yells some combination of mostly socialism, a little bit of communism, and a little bit of Marxism.

01:00:39.280 That's the definition in the public administration literature for equity.

01:00:43.920 Equity is socialism.

01:00:45.500 The only difference is that it takes into account social and cultural property, not just economic property.

01:00:50.740 Yeah.

01:00:50.980 That's it.

01:00:52.080 It is literally the same thing as socialism.

01:00:55.080 And so they've used this word.

01:00:56.980 That one's not like a tricky rebranding like diversity and inclusion are, that mean like inclusion by exclusion, you know,

01:01:06.180 and diversity means everybody thinks the same because they have critical consciousness of what they look like.

01:01:11.160 But they all have critical consciousness, so they all think like little robots.

01:01:14.760 Those are like weird.

01:01:15.980 Equity is just literally an old word with a new label on it.

01:01:19.380 It's just literally, hey, take the big socialism pile of poo and put it in a box and put a bow on it.

01:01:25.200 But equity really, in the real sense, like in the biblical sense, we read that God is equitable in that he is impartial.

01:01:32.660 And so he is not judging people more favorably because they're poor or because they're rich, etc.

01:01:42.160 So in the real sense, in the good sense of equity, we would like for everyone to be equal in the eyes of the law.

01:01:49.520 No one is above the law.

01:01:51.100 You're not given more power just because you have more money or whatever it is.

01:01:56.000 But they have actually changed that.

01:01:58.140 That's right.

01:01:58.460 Something that used to be universally positive to, okay, we're not talking about equality of treatment or equality of value anymore because you're made in the image of God and given rights by God.

01:02:07.220 Right.

01:02:07.440 We're talking about the everyone.

01:02:09.660 Actually, it's the opposite of that.

01:02:11.600 It is we are going to try to ensure that everyone has equal outcomes by treating everyone differently based on your identity.

01:02:17.480 That's exactly right.

01:02:18.200 Differently based on your class and differently based on what you have.

01:02:21.480 And we are going to be extremely partial based on what we think you have in the form of oppression or privileges to try to get everyone to equal outcomes, what they call equity, what Thomas Sowell calls cosmic justice.

01:02:36.780 Right.

01:02:37.400 And so with the idea of God being perfectly equitable, then what do you have?

01:02:42.380 You have God is going to whatever inequities we suffer in life through faith, et cetera, then equity will be achieved in God in the end.

01:02:51.260 So what do we have now?

01:02:52.620 We have people who are like, no, no, no, we'll achieve the equity here.

01:02:55.680 In other words, we're God.

01:02:58.000 Yeah.

01:02:58.760 And that's always what it is.

01:03:00.080 And that's what we've talked about so many times that Marxism is an opposing narrative of the timeline of eternity.

01:03:10.000 It's got its own arc of redemption.

01:03:12.260 It's got its own arc of like making the earth new.

01:03:16.080 It's got its own soteriology, eschatology that opposes Christianity, its own version of salvation, sanctification and justification that is completely opposite of Christianity.

01:03:28.000 But it's very much a religion in that sense.

01:03:30.160 Well, that's because it's Gnostic. 0.99

01:03:31.540 And I mean that in the old school, big capital G.

01:03:34.280 Right.

01:03:34.700 Not even the Christian, you know, the first century Christian sects or cults or whatever.

01:03:39.340 Yes, exactly.

01:03:40.600 Special knowledge.

01:03:41.380 But part of the Gnostic creation myth is that the thing that we call the creator, God, from Genesis, there's actually a real God behind the scenes.

01:03:51.300 And because of a number of like tricks of how the fullness of God, which is the pleroma, the realm in which this true God exists, the way it works through a number of – this is their mythology, so bear with me.

01:04:02.480 You end up with the creator that calls himself God in Genesis actually being the Demiurge, which is the architect or the – what's it?

01:04:15.720 Artisan.

01:04:16.340 It means artisan in Greek, Demiurgos.

01:04:19.400 And so it's the artisan who builds the world.

01:04:21.660 But it turns out he's actually the result of a sin, which is a non-creator, wisdom in this case, Sophia, trying to create when that's outside of her ken.

01:04:32.480 And so you end up with this evil creator.

01:04:35.640 And so to not get into the weeds and simplify, they think that the story in Genesis is mostly true as told, except that the thing calling – or recognizes God is a demon that's created a perfectly evil world, is a perfect prison for the souls of men, which are, in fact, identical to the Christ.

01:04:56.800 They are, in fact, the second person of the Godhead.

01:04:59.460 And so they think that God is a demon, and so therefore their redemption arc that we're talking about, their whole program, their whole cult faith, is that they have to take the place of God through the special knowledge that there is a real God behind the evil God.

01:05:17.660 And that's how you liberate yourself from the prison, is by knowing that and acting it out in the world.

01:05:23.280 And so you see this kind of in everything they do.

01:05:27.160 So the Marxists saw the bourgeois class as the demiurge.

01:05:30.620 They're the people who have the means of production of society.

01:05:33.360 They're the artisans who build society.

01:05:36.380 So what are we going to do?

01:05:37.560 We're going to overthrow them and do what?

01:05:39.020 Seize the means of production of society, which is the production of society, man, and nature, which it's their duty to complete in their faith.

01:05:47.760 This is literally just a reinvention of the Gnostic cult hiding God in politics. 0.57

01:05:52.700 And that's why everything since Marx has seen large numbers of crazy people treating politics as God.

01:06:00.940 I like to say like when leftists talk about separation of church and state or Christo-fascists getting their religion out of politics, it's not because they believe in some, you know, form of neutrality.

01:06:25.840 It's because they simply believe that their religion or pseudo-religion should dominate.

01:06:30.480 They don't check their worldview and their religion at the door before they vote, before they teach, before they engage in the public square, before they legislate.

01:06:40.480 They allow their worldview to dominate everything they do.

01:06:44.600 But as soon as a Christian says, hey, this is what I believe and I believe I should be able to bring my ideas to the table, may the best idea win, all of a sudden that's imposition. 0.99

01:06:52.800 That's bigotry.

01:06:54.220 And like we saw an example of this, this is a recent example.

01:06:57.680 And yesterday I saw that there was a tweet about a restaurant that refused to serve a group of Christians because apparently these Christians, just by nature of being Christian and believing what we do about marriage and sexuality, that they made their employees feel unsafe.

01:07:20.580 This is Metzger Bar and Butchery in Virginia, decided 90 minutes before the event, hey, we're not actually going to cater for y'all, even though we agreed to.

01:07:31.620 So you've got that.

01:07:32.840 And of course, that's going to be applauded as a fight against bigotry.

01:07:36.100 That's the right thing to do.

01:07:37.420 These are employers that are being brave.

01:07:39.820 But then, I mean, you have people like Jack Phillips of Masterpiece Cake Shop.

01:07:43.580 You have people like Lori Smith of 303 Creative who have had the past decade or so of their lives ruined by people suing them because not because they refuse service entirely, but because they refuse to convey a particular message that opposes their religious beliefs.

01:08:00.180 And leftists think that this is wrong, that you shouldn't be able to do that, that that's some kind of like theocratic, I don't know, imposition to simply represent your values in the workplace as a Christian.

01:08:11.520 But they literally have no problem fully using the state, the powers of the state to force you to say what they want you to say.

01:08:21.360 So the whole live and let live thing was a Trojan horse, I think, to make people accept their religion, to accept their perversions. 0.92

01:08:31.400 They're the only ones that are allowed to impose.

01:08:33.580 Well, it's like everything with these people.

01:08:35.400 There's a genuine live and let live kind of libertarian impulse.

01:08:39.800 And then there are people who want to manipulate your own values or your society's values in order to impose their view.

01:08:46.220 And this is what Gnostics always do. 1.00

01:08:48.220 They infiltrate Christianity, they pervert what Christ's message was, or they pervert love thy neighbor or whatever specific thing. 0.98

01:08:55.180 And the next thing you know, everybody's wearing a mask and staying at home and not watching, you know, not visiting their parents and all this stuff.

01:09:00.800 And when people die and it gets churches are shut down and all this stuff because of love thy neighbor.

01:09:05.680 Right.

01:09:05.840 So they get inside and they infiltrate and pervert the message and they pervert the message also of this, you know, live and let live.

01:09:13.700 Because what they want to do is they very much want to impose their view because their actual view, if we quote from Hegel, who was in this tradition, and it's complicated.

01:09:23.180 There are lots of strands of the tradition or whatever.

01:09:26.760 But Hegel said that he said it not once, but several times in different ways.

01:09:30.700 Things like state is God bestriding the earth.

01:09:34.320 The state is the divine idea as it exists on earth.

01:09:38.080 You know, so they see the state as God.

01:09:40.720 Why would they see the state as God?

01:09:42.060 Because they think that they have the vision of the true God as Gnostics. 1.00

01:09:45.440 So they represent the view of the true God who they believe they've in some sense had an encounter with.

01:09:50.600 Marxists won't recognize this because they'll say we don't believe in God.

01:09:52.840 But this is the underlying psychological architecture that they're tapping into from the Gnostic cult.

01:09:58.240 And so what you have as Christians for them is not just a false God, but a false God that refuses to recognize what it is and therefore poses a massive threat. 0.99

01:10:08.640 But the irony, of course, is because the Iron Law of Woke Projection never misses, is that Christians are overwhelmingly promoting something, you know, obviously I'm not going to say it's true because then I would be disingenuous to myself. 0.91

01:10:23.200 But they're saying something that resonates with reality overwhelmingly.

01:10:28.300 I was listening to Charlie Kirk talk.

01:10:29.540 That's an interesting way not to say true.

01:10:32.600 I know, but anyway, I was listening to Charlie Kirk the other day and he was talking about how the Bible is a book of distinctions and what we're dealing with with all this is the obliteration of distinctions, which, by the way, is another esoteric religion.

01:10:45.180 Order versus disorder.

01:10:45.640 That's right.

01:10:46.100 Which is what light versus darkness is and God versus Satan is water versus disorder.

01:10:49.680 Well, yeah, right.

01:10:50.160 And the Hermetic religion's goal, it's the dialectical religion. 0.91

01:10:53.500 It's another Gnostic-based thing.

01:10:55.340 It's not the same as Gnosticism.

01:10:56.780 It's a whole thing.

01:10:57.780 I'm not trying to pretend it's complicated.

01:10:59.700 It's just like this is going to take three hours.

01:11:01.800 I can't explain it.

01:11:03.020 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:03.660 It's not hard.

01:11:04.780 It's just a lot of people over history did weird stuff.

01:11:07.780 Yeah.

01:11:08.240 The Hermetic belief, though, is that you arrive back to God by obliterating all distinctions.

01:11:12.480 Yeah.

01:11:12.960 Including the final distinction from God.

01:11:14.840 And so that's how you, that's like a process to get back to it.

01:11:18.220 Oh my gosh.

01:11:18.520 That makes me think of so many things.

01:11:20.220 That makes me think of like the female self-help world that really ultimately is trying to obliterate the distinction between you and God. 1.00

01:11:30.500 You and a goddess.

01:11:31.180 You are trying to search.

01:11:33.460 You really are.

01:11:34.160 You're getting rid of your toxic relationships, which typically just means your normal marriage.

01:11:38.760 Yes.

01:11:39.080 Or like your, you know, needy kids, which are just normal kids.

01:11:43.300 Or your job or your boss.

01:11:44.820 All these normal demands.

01:11:46.300 You are getting rid of all those things, all the definitions, all the distinctions, all of the supposed like expectations and standards that the world has put on you to find yourself.

01:11:55.500 And inside you'll find this like beautiful inner goddess.

01:11:59.260 So that is ultimately erasing the distinction between you and God thinking that it's going to make you happy.

01:12:04.520 It's to get back, it's to get back, remove all distinctions and get back to pure immediacy, which is the manifestation of God.

01:12:10.440 That's the concept.

01:12:12.220 But Charlie said the Bible is a book of distinctions, good versus evil, man and woman, et cetera, et cetera.

01:12:18.080 You know, we could go on and on about different examples.

01:12:20.580 And what he's saying, and I agree with this, regardless of my religious dispositions, is that reality is a reality of distinctions.

01:12:29.840 Like you and me aren't the same, you know, you're not the same as the chair.

01:12:34.880 I'm looking at different furniture around, you know, we're not, things are different from one another.

01:12:39.800 And all of understanding exists within the distinctions.

01:12:44.240 But that's interesting because.

01:12:45.440 All of understanding exists within distinctions.

01:12:48.180 That is very true.

01:12:49.400 But this is where they get you because this is what they always do.

01:12:52.580 They understand it better than you.

01:12:54.260 That's the trick.

01:12:55.100 And so they have actually, in the German from Hegel, they have first stand, that's understanding.

01:13:00.160 We can go back to the Greek, which is dianoia for Plato, which is kind of technical understanding.

01:13:05.480 It's not identical to techni.

01:13:06.820 It's like the thought process behind techni.

01:13:09.220 So this is a long line of thought.

01:13:10.920 Just that's why I invoke Plato.

01:13:12.660 But above dianoia is episteme, or in Hegel's German, above, which is knowing.

01:13:20.040 And above Hegel's first stand, understanding, is vernunft, which is reason.

01:13:25.100 Which means they have the higher level understanding.

01:13:27.440 They have the higher level reason that lets you interpret that lower level understanding.

01:13:32.240 So when I say within distinction there is understanding, they laugh.

01:13:35.920 Because I've resonated with you, and they say, well, he doesn't know what he doesn't know.

01:13:40.600 Is that there's a higher level understanding, which is that I've had, not me personally,

01:13:44.340 they've had an encounter with the divine intellect.

01:13:46.980 Not necessarily God, but with the mind of God.

01:13:49.980 They've tasted or seen the plan.

01:13:53.220 And thus, they have to impose it on all of us, because they have it.

01:13:56.580 And so Christianity, the point I wanted to make is that Christianity represents something

01:14:00.720 much, much more true than their lies.

01:14:05.120 And so Christianity poses an extraordinary threat, because truth is the great equalizer. 0.87

01:14:12.040 It is the actual leveler.

01:14:13.260 It's the thing that says, hey, look, whether by faith or by reason, hey, look, your Gnostic 0.96

01:14:18.480 BS is crazy person stuff at best, or evil at worst.

01:14:24.720 And so it's either the infestation by a demon or a demon itself.

01:14:28.640 And so you have, we're not going to do that.

01:14:31.540 We're going to, you know, cast that out of our system or out of you if we can to rescue

01:14:37.480 you, et cetera.

01:14:38.080 And that is extraordinarily threatening to them, because they see no distinction between

01:14:43.740 philosophy, science, religion, and politics.

01:14:47.440 It's all just manifestations of their superordinate belief system that can never be wrong.

01:14:53.660 Yeah.

01:14:54.240 And that is exactly why they try to infiltrate Christianity and not just combat it, because 0.99

01:14:59.760 they really don't have some kind of like apologetic or theological argument against it.

01:15:05.600 It's just that you're wrong.

01:15:08.100 And by the way, you are inducing suicide and violence. 0.54

01:15:11.340 And that's also why they call people like me a fundamentalist.

01:15:15.080 We used to know fundamentalists is like the girls who don't wear pants and who don't wear 0.61

01:15:19.200 makeup and who aren't allowed to go to school past eighth grade because their father has

01:15:24.040 already arranged their marriage and things like that.

01:15:25.640 That's what we used to know was like fundamentalist.

01:15:28.100 And those groups still exist in the United States.

01:15:30.320 But now those people call fundamentalists people who just believe in the Bible.

01:15:34.120 Anyone who believes in the Bible and who believes what Christians have believed for thousands

01:15:38.360 of years is radical.

01:15:40.140 So they will say things like, well, you can be a Christian.

01:15:43.540 It's fine to believe a Christian.

01:15:45.000 You can't just be a fundamentalist Christian.

01:15:47.600 What they really mean is that you cannot be a Christian, not in any real sense of the word.

01:15:51.700 You can say that you're a Christian.

01:15:53.180 You can't live like it.

01:15:54.320 You can't believe like it.

01:15:55.660 You have to be a secular progressive who simply uses Jesus as your political mascot.

01:15:59.700 Such a good point that you made that they don't make any distinction between politics

01:16:03.740 and theology.

01:16:04.560 It's all the same to them.

01:16:05.700 It's the same.

01:16:06.160 It's all Prescott Theologia is what they would call it.

01:16:08.980 But yeah, this is what they do is they narrow down the definitions of good sounding words

01:16:17.120 and expand the definition of bad sounding words.

01:16:20.040 So good sounding words like diversity.

01:16:22.000 Now it means this very specific thing that you understand diversity the way that diversity

01:16:25.660 people teach diversity, right?

01:16:27.120 In other words, you have critical consciousness.

01:16:29.620 They narrow that definition down until there's no variation and no thought.

01:16:33.840 So they capture the good sounding words.

01:16:35.440 And Dr. Belladod was a disaffected communist and said they capture the good sounding words 0.86

01:16:39.740 on purpose.

01:16:40.720 And this was in the 50s that they had most of them already.

01:16:43.820 Then they expand the definition of bad sounding words.

01:16:46.860 So fundamentalist.

01:16:48.080 Now it encompasses everybody who's a Christian.

01:16:50.060 That's a word with negative valence.

01:16:51.820 You know, anti-vaxxer.

01:16:52.760 That's a word with negative valence.

01:16:53.880 Now it's everybody who doesn't want to participate in this thing.

01:16:55.740 They expand these slurk. 0.92

01:16:58.060 Right.

01:16:58.400 And they create thought terminating cliches is the term that is used for them.

01:17:02.580 When you hear them, it just shuts things down.

01:17:04.540 Yeah.

01:17:05.320 And it's a magic spell in a sense.

01:17:07.660 But what it boils down to with this is what they're trying to do is separate.

01:17:11.120 If you want to rip from the Bible unfairly, they're separating wheat from chaff the way

01:17:15.060 that they see it.

01:17:15.820 And what that is, if we go back to this Hermetic or Gnostic literature, in the Corpus Hermeticum,

01:17:21.240 they explicitly explain that there are men who have access to mind, meaning mind of God,

01:17:26.660 nose with a capital N in Greek.

01:17:29.020 And then there are men who don't.

01:17:30.720 Yeah.

01:17:30.920 And they're lesser men.

01:17:32.140 And then Karl Marx turns this into socialist man and regular man.

01:17:35.880 And socialist man understands.

01:17:37.240 I even saw a thing today that you would understand socialism if you understood socialism.

01:17:41.500 And they do this again and again and again and again.

01:17:44.700 But what they're trying to do is that the people with the bad terms are the people who

01:17:47.820 don't have nose.

01:17:49.200 They're not Gnostics.

01:17:50.460 They don't have access to the divine mind.

01:17:52.480 And so what they have to do is try to brainwash as many people into having that as possible

01:17:57.760 because they believe that either we all go to heaven together, because there is no heaven,

01:18:02.480 we build the kingdom on earth, we complete God as a human project, not you, not somebody,

01:18:08.060 not an individual.

01:18:08.880 That would be arrogant.

01:18:10.840 That would be hubris.

01:18:12.200 We as a collective complete God.

01:18:14.640 So everybody gets on board or else you have to cast them into the hoi polloi that's made 0.92

01:18:20.480 out of mud or whatever and let them fall into their material, passion, desire, or whatever.

01:18:24.960 And so they have to classify people as things like deplorables.

01:18:27.460 And what that means is people who don't have our view of the world, which is they believe

01:18:31.600 access to the divine special knowledge that we have, which is Gnosticism.

01:18:36.480 And you actually see that in like very specific terms.

01:18:39.160 You only have a few minutes left.

01:18:40.420 So after I say this, I'm going to transition really quickly.

01:18:43.460 But you see this in a lot of the conversations about race or oppression.

01:18:49.680 Like you talked about the pedagogy of the oppressed that I, white woman, I can't know, not just

01:18:56.080 because I haven't myself had black experiences, but because I have not inherited the oppression

01:19:01.980 of my ancestors that they have.

01:19:03.820 Like it's very spiritual.

01:19:05.440 It's very theological.

01:19:06.640 They will say, like, you can't understand this.

01:19:10.120 You can't know this.

01:19:11.120 It doesn't matter if you are factually right about the numbers about police brutality or

01:19:15.360 the reason why these disparities exist.

01:19:17.700 The facts don't matter.

01:19:19.660 Reality doesn't matter.

01:19:20.760 Because they would say, I have a special knowledge as a black or brown person, as someone who

01:19:26.860 has inherited this oppression from my ancestors, even, they would say that you simply don't

01:19:32.600 have.

01:19:33.000 So that's why they shut down argument.

01:19:35.580 It's not really about rationality or logic or facts to them.

01:19:40.440 And it's the same thing with gender. 0.94

01:19:43.120 I've seen this before, and you could probably break it down.

01:19:46.240 Dang it, James, it's always this problem.

01:19:48.600 We need three more hours.

01:19:49.520 But I've seen this, queer people are divine.

01:19:53.340 I've seen that phrase a lot.

01:19:54.560 That's what they just did at the globe.

01:19:55.000 And it's like, they have special knowledge, and it doesn't matter.

01:19:58.480 Yeah, they know their gender soul. 1.00

01:19:59.780 Yeah.

01:20:00.100 They know who God meant them to be.

01:20:01.740 It's spiritual.

01:20:02.080 And so they're going to remake it in their body.

01:20:03.940 That is literally a religious ritual and a religion nobody knows exists.

01:20:07.760 Yeah.

01:20:08.260 I mean it.

01:20:08.840 I really do mean it.

01:20:09.760 I mean, it's the same thing.

01:20:10.260 I know we probably don't agree on abortion, but like a lot of their reasoning that it's not

01:20:15.220 a human.

01:20:16.040 Well, that's not a factual statement.

01:20:17.700 Right.

01:20:17.820 That's not a scientific statement.

01:20:18.740 That's like a superstitious statement that it's not a human.

01:20:21.880 No, that's totally incorrect.

01:20:23.900 No, you're not totally incorrect.

01:20:26.220 You're right.

01:20:26.440 They are totally incorrect.

01:20:27.520 I want to make very clear.

01:20:28.560 It's spiritual.

01:20:28.980 It is definitely a human.

01:20:30.380 They do not make a distinction.

01:20:31.680 The question is about personhood, which is when do the rights extend.

01:20:36.200 Right.

01:20:36.560 That is the real question.

01:20:37.780 Yeah.

01:20:38.280 And where we disagree, we disagree thinly, I think.

01:20:43.460 But their claim that it's, you know, the human, they're just wrong.

01:20:48.520 Right.

01:20:48.720 Except that the people who don't have nose aren't human.

01:20:51.980 And that's a whole episode we could do about the weird esoteric literature of the 1920s.

01:20:57.420 I got a podcast coming on that soon, too.

01:20:59.520 I freaked out when I read that stuff.

01:21:00.960 Okay, this is what I want to end on, because every time you come on, I'm like, oh, we need

01:21:15.720 to do a whole podcast on that.

01:21:17.100 And yet again, we're not.

01:21:19.060 SEL.

01:21:19.960 SEL.

01:21:20.300 So, just, that's basically what your book is about, The Marxification and Theft of Education.

01:21:26.800 The title is Marxification of Education, Paulo Freire's Critical Marxism and The Theft of Education.

01:21:32.580 Okay, let's talk, I know there's a lot that we could talk about in there, but tell me specifically

01:21:37.580 about SEL, because I know that I have a lot of great teachers who are listening, who are

01:21:41.940 conservative, Christians, whatever, who will say, no, SEL is good, we need SEL.

01:21:47.280 Tell me your perspective on that.

01:21:48.620 Break it down for us in five minutes.

01:21:50.000 Yeah, they're getting tricked, they're getting sucked into a, they're getting pulled into

01:21:53.740 the wizard circle.

01:21:55.060 And SEL, as a concept, can do good.

01:21:58.720 Doing social and emotional, or even what they call whole child education.

01:22:02.080 By the way, all these Gnostic stuff, it's all holistic.

01:22:04.620 That's where that concept comes from.

01:22:05.840 It's always holistic.

01:22:06.280 That's where the whole...

01:22:07.020 Holistically, pro-life means that you might be pro-legal abortion, but you need to be like 1.00

01:22:12.640 anti-death penalty and like pro-immigration.

01:22:15.360 Holistically always waters down the actual issue.

01:22:17.940 Just because it's the hermetic idea.

01:22:19.180 Yeah, but it's exactly what we were just talking about.

01:22:21.780 That's where it comes from.

01:22:22.960 But the program of SEL, the reason they can say that is because there are like 20 things

01:22:29.820 going by the name SEL.

01:22:31.540 And so they sell by the better ones and implement the bad ones.

01:22:35.720 And your teachers that you know are probably not doing anything particularly evil, though

01:22:40.600 they might be doing some that they don't realize because it can be subtle.

01:22:43.300 But the goal of social emotional learning is to manage the social and emotional learning

01:22:49.740 and well-being of children, which there's an open question, should the school do that?

01:22:54.100 You can say, well, some kids, yeah, but should it be doing with all kids?

01:22:57.760 If you have a, you know, if you can get a diagnosis and whatever, we could say that that would be

01:23:01.620 different for some kids, but should it be doing it for all kids?

01:23:04.620 Is it the school's job?

01:23:05.820 You can tell that the SEL people are BSing because they say, well, SEL has been happening

01:23:10.760 as part of education all the time anyway.

01:23:12.480 We're just doing it in an organized fashion.

01:23:14.320 But what they're funneling it toward is what's called systemic SEL, which is kind of what

01:23:18.260 my book talks about.

01:23:20.820 The Marxification of Education talks about how education is stolen.

01:23:24.240 Systemic SEL is built off of Paulo Freire's method, which is that you hijack other subjects

01:23:29.000 as mediators to political knowledge.

01:23:31.540 And then eventually it's all taught through transformative or culturally affirming lenses, which are

01:23:35.640 equity-based, radical-based, explicitly set to building a critical consciousness.

01:23:40.760 If we read, for example, in the Handbook of Social-Emotional Learning, which one would

01:23:44.960 think is about social-emotional learning, it's the official like 660, 680-page handbook

01:23:52.140 that they published in 15, 16, something like that.

01:23:55.960 Linda Darling-Hammond, who's one of the main consultants that's pushed SEL through CASEL, the Collaborative

01:24:02.420 for Academic Social-Emotional Learning, wrote the foreword to this book.

01:24:05.060 And she says that what it means for a school to be social and emotional competent is that

01:24:10.540 it imbibes and promotes Paulo Freire's ideas of transformation and humanization, which are

01:24:16.160 Marxist ideas of transforming and humanizing, which means making kids into little empathetic

01:24:21.880 Marxists, like fake empathetic Marxists.

01:24:24.500 And so what it does is it enables the theft of a math lesson to turn it into a social and

01:24:29.880 emotional lesson, which gets taught through an equity or resilience or inclusion or sustainability

01:24:35.760 lens.

01:24:36.320 And that, by the way, is a huge push right now.

01:24:38.100 Even the NEA is doing it.

01:24:39.560 UNESCO is pushing it.

01:24:40.980 That education within a year, all we're going to be talking about is that it's trying to

01:24:44.100 teach the sustainable development goals of the United Nations.

01:24:47.280 That's all where it's going.

01:24:48.860 The NEA has now put out a big document.

01:24:50.400 I just did a thing on Twitter about it yesterday.

01:24:52.680 Climate change.

01:24:53.280 Climate change.

01:24:53.940 The 17 sustainable development goals to transform our world to be a sustainable and inclusive

01:25:00.120 future.

01:25:00.840 And the first thing that this document from the NEA site is the World Economic Forum.

01:25:06.160 I mean, this stuff's not a conspiracy.

01:25:08.480 It's literally right in front of you.

01:25:10.620 Well, it is a conspiracy.

01:25:11.820 It's not a conspiracy theory.

01:25:12.840 Um, but social emotional learning is the tool.

01:25:16.060 It is in it.

01:25:17.320 You can do lots of good things with social and emotional educational techniques, but when

01:25:23.180 it becomes systemic and transformative, which it always will in the end, what you're going

01:25:27.980 to end up doing is using a brain, you're turning your school into a brainwashing program

01:25:32.780 and the people involved in it may not, may not even know they sell it as increasing engagement,

01:25:38.220 helping troubled kids, et cetera.

01:25:39.700 But they've redefined at risk kids to be all the kids by saying that what they're at risk

01:25:44.780 of is graduating, not social and emotional compliant or competent or whatever.

01:25:49.860 And therefore they're all at risk and therefore they all qualify for at risk funding from the

01:25:55.400 government to implement more SEL, which, and then we could talk about how bad it is a lot,

01:26:01.200 but people should read the book to understand how that, um, systemic thing works, how they

01:26:07.620 use a math lesson as a mediator to a political conversation.

01:26:13.640 Um, I know we're pretty much out of time, but you can take a word problem like Johnny's

01:26:19.020 riding with his mom and dad to the amusement park in the car.

01:26:22.660 The amusement park's 50 miles away.

01:26:24.680 They've driven 30 miles.

01:26:25.740 How much further do they have to go?

01:26:26.680 That's a real example from a real SEL training, by the way.

01:26:28.920 And you'd get the teacher to engage by, Hey, who's been to a amusement park and who hasn't?

01:26:34.000 An amusement park is what Frary, if you read the book calls a generative theme.

01:26:37.480 And so who's been to the amusement park and who hasn't, it generates a political conversation.

01:26:41.020 And so some kids raise their hands, some don't.

01:26:42.780 Well, why, why have some of you been in some of you haven't?

01:26:44.960 Why would, why would some people not be able to go?

01:26:47.100 Well, my parents don't think I'm old enough.

01:26:48.540 Now you're having a conversation about political or parental authority with the school that wants

01:26:52.380 to separate that.

01:26:53.540 Or some people can't afford it.

01:26:55.280 Now you're having a conversation about poverty, socialism, maybe race gets looped in with

01:26:59.740 it.

01:27:00.480 What about that mom and dad?

01:27:01.700 Now you're having, well, I only have a mom.

01:27:03.540 Now you're having a conversation about feminism or we have two moms. 1.00

01:27:06.240 Now it's sexuality.

01:27:08.260 You know, should people go to the amusement park in a car?

01:27:10.380 Is that bad for the environment?

01:27:11.500 Now you're having a conversation about environmentalism.

01:27:13.420 You can have a million political conversations off of something extremely innocuous and social

01:27:17.600 emotional learning is used to tool that toward things like self-awareness, which can

01:27:22.620 be good or really bad if the Marxists control it.

01:27:25.920 Self-management, you know, relationship management, responsible decision-making, like don't throw

01:27:31.760 that away.

01:27:32.320 You have to recycle it or whatever.

01:27:33.940 Yeah.

01:27:34.200 And then, you know, social awareness, which is, of course, I mean, we can all just see

01:27:38.080 straight through that.

01:27:38.640 That's going to be woke as heck.

01:27:39.960 Yeah.

01:27:40.860 Yep.

01:27:41.340 So all things that sound good.

01:27:42.920 Of course, someone would want their kids to learn about being responsible, being kind,

01:27:47.600 to being quote unquote empathetic and we don't realize that they are basically lumps of coal

01:27:53.140 packaged in really pretty Christmas packaging.

01:27:56.120 What those teachers you have, those good teachers you have listening should realize is what we

01:28:00.580 were talking about earlier.

01:28:01.660 Every good definition is a funnel down to a Marxist point.

01:28:04.780 So it starts out, there's a big wide net.

01:28:06.820 Oh yeah.

01:28:07.280 Diversity means lots of things.

01:28:08.420 Social emotional learning means lots of good things.

01:28:10.560 And what happens is you slowly get twisted and bent and struggled and policyed into now it's

01:28:15.900 systemic SEL doing transformative and culturally affirming Marxist nonsense.

01:28:21.360 And that is the end point.

01:28:23.420 That is where the slippery slope lands or whatever you want to say.

01:28:26.380 It's because every definition narrows down to a functional point for them.

01:28:30.640 Yep.

01:28:31.220 Absolutely.

01:28:32.060 Absolutely.

01:28:33.040 Everyone go out and buy Marxification of education.

01:28:36.140 You can get it, I'm guessing, wherever books are sold.

01:28:38.700 Right?

01:28:39.500 And follow you on Twitter since you're back on Twitter now.

01:28:43.660 Unless you're a groomer, you probably don't want to follow him.

01:28:47.980 All right.

01:28:48.760 That's all we got.

01:28:49.840 Thanks so much, James.

01:28:50.820 I appreciate you coming out.

01:28:51.620 Thanks, Allie.

01:28:52.060 Thank you.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - December 07, 2022

Ep 720 ｜ American Girl Betrays Girls & the SEL Trojan Horse ｜ Guest： James Lindsay

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