Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 737 ｜ Jackie Hill Perry Renounces the Enneagram

00:00:00.000 Well, we've got a new Speaker of the House.

00:00:02.960 Democrats also have a new minority leader in the House who decided to take the Bible 0.74

00:00:08.700 out of context to support the Democratic platform.

00:00:12.620 We'll finally be talking about all of that.

00:00:14.800 Also, Jackie Hill Perry, author and evangelist, says that she is now against the Enneagram

00:00:24.500 because it is the wisdom of demons.

00:00:29.200 We've got a couple other things to talk about, a viral tweet by someone who says that he 0.90

00:00:33.680 hates, quote unquote, cis women. 1.00

00:00:35.780 Also, we'll be analyzing some outfits from the Golden Globes last night because why not?

00:00:41.560 So thanks for joining this episode of Relatable.

00:00:44.680 Here we go.

00:00:54.420 All right, guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:57.240 Happy Wednesday.

00:00:59.200 Yes, it's Wednesday, halfway through the week.

00:01:01.600 We're on our temporary set.

00:01:02.920 We were on our temporary set yesterday, but you might have noticed it was a little dark

00:01:07.000 on the set.

00:01:07.700 And now we have more light.

00:01:08.980 Doesn't it look so good?

00:01:10.640 All right.

00:01:11.560 We are going to get into some politics today.

00:01:14.520 I've avoided it for the past two days because I just haven't been ready.

00:01:19.080 My break over Christmas and New Year was like being in a warm bed of ignorance, not paying

00:01:24.500 attention to what was going on in Washington.

00:01:26.640 And now I've turned the lights on and I've gotten out of bed and I'm looking at this speaker race.

00:01:32.300 And I'm finally going to talk about it just a little bit.

00:01:34.600 And then we'll get on to all the like fun culture war type thing.

00:01:38.680 So let's just talk a little bit about the Speaker of the House.

00:01:41.820 And I want to react to a video that I saw going around on Twitter of the minority leader in

00:01:49.100 the House, Hakeem Jeffries, who is the leader of the Democrats, taking the Bible out of context 0.92

00:01:56.020 in just a ridiculous and I think very blasphemous in evil fashion.

00:01:59.140 But first, let me just summarize exactly what happened with Kevin McCarthy. 0.65

00:02:04.200 You can get a lot more in-depth analysis from other commentators who were following this

00:02:09.560 closely.

00:02:10.540 Really, if you just search for this on Twitter, you can see a lot of explanations for what was

00:02:15.380 happening and why.

00:02:16.760 But basically, Kevin McCarthy, he's a representative Republican from California and he was the nominee,

00:02:25.760 the person up for the job of Speaker of the House, because Republicans are in the majority

00:02:30.260 in the House.

00:02:30.880 So when you're in the majority in the House, you get to decide who the Speaker of the House,

00:02:36.060 who the leader of the House is.

00:02:38.340 And so this is let me just explain to you the process a little bit.

00:02:41.620 According to Voice of America, it's a state owned news network, international radio broadcaster

00:02:46.220 of the U.S., funded by the U.S. government.

00:02:49.080 So obviously, you always take that with a grain of salt.

00:02:51.600 But this is just an explanation of the process.

00:02:53.760 So in the weeks after an election, the Republican conference and the Democratic caucus hold an

00:02:58.700 informal vote among their members to decide who they want to nominate to lead their party

00:03:03.540 in January.

00:03:05.060 Representative Kevin McCarthy won the majority of the Republican vote in a closed-door November

00:03:09.740 meeting.

00:03:11.040 Weeks later, Democrats unanimously chose Representative Hakeem Jeffries to become their leader as the

00:03:17.680 party transitions into the minority.

00:03:19.880 Democrats were in the majority slightly in the House.

00:03:22.580 Then after November elections, now Republicans are in the majority in the House.

00:03:26.600 Once the House is in a quorum, meaning the minimum number of members are present to proceed,

00:03:31.360 the Speaker nominee from each party will be read aloud by the respective leaders before a roll

00:03:36.980 call vote to elect a new Speaker.

00:03:39.000 The clerk then appoints lawmakers from each party as tellers to tally the votes.

00:03:44.000 The candidate to become Speaker needs a majority of the votes from House members who are present

00:03:48.800 and voting. Historically, the magical number has been 218 out of the 435 members of the House.

00:03:55.600 But many previous speakers, including outgoing Speaker Nancy Pelosi, have ascended to the position

00:04:02.500 with fewer votes than that.

00:04:04.400 As some members voted present instead of calling out a name, every lawmaker voting present lowers

00:04:11.380 the overall tally needed to reach a majority.

00:04:15.100 So when it came to Kevin McCarthy, usually this is kind of a cut and dry process.

00:04:20.540 It happens pretty quickly.

00:04:21.760 But with Kevin McCarthy, this went through 15 rounds of votes to get him to that 218.

00:04:26.960 For 14 rounds of votes, McCarthy did not receive the backing of enough colleagues.

00:04:33.860 He received the backing of 203.

00:04:36.020 And yet there was a minority of Republicans who were saying, I don't want to vote for Kevin

00:04:40.500 McCarthy because they said, I don't think he's going to be conservative enough.

00:04:44.140 And look, we've got some demands before he can win our vote.

00:04:47.180 A lot of people said this was obstructionist and they were just getting in the way.

00:04:52.100 And I think they were even referred to in like very pejorative terms, like they were terrorizing

00:04:57.700 the House of Representatives by not simply supporting Kevin McCarthy.

00:05:01.880 Interestingly, Marjorie Taylor Greene was one of the loudest backers of Kevin McCarthy, which

00:05:08.100 typically she is kind of seen as an oppositional minority in the House trying to kind of pull

00:05:14.720 it in a more, I guess you would say conservative direction.

00:05:18.580 But she was a big backer of Kevin McCarthy.

00:05:20.480 But people like Matt Gaetz and Lauren Boebert and others were saying, you know what, I'm not

00:05:26.080 going to vote for him.

00:05:27.560 And people like Chip Roy, I have a lot of respect for Representative Chip Roy.

00:05:31.860 From Texas, he had some demands before he would vote for McCarthy.

00:05:36.460 Ultimately, McCarthy did get enough votes to become Speaker of the House.

00:05:41.820 The opposing members who said we're not going to vote for him unless some things are agreed

00:05:47.140 to by him.

00:05:48.420 They wanted to see less government spending, they said, more power to them, less power for

00:05:53.360 the Speaker.

00:05:54.800 There was also just some like mistrust and personality differences, says NPR.

00:05:59.780 There were some major concessions made by McCarthy to get the votes needed for him to become

00:06:05.320 Speaker of the House.

00:06:06.660 Here are some of those.

00:06:07.580 A promise for votes on a balanced budget amendment, term limits and a Texas border plan.

00:06:13.200 A new committee to investigate the government using the FBI against political rivals.

00:06:18.420 You've probably heard of like a church committee that has nothing to do with church, the religious

00:06:23.880 institution.

00:06:24.620 It has to do with the kind of committee going back several decades, looking into what the

00:06:28.940 FBI is actually doing.

00:06:31.780 How are they really doing their jobs or is the corruption just as deep as we think it

00:06:37.560 is?

00:06:38.440 More single subject bills.

00:06:40.780 So rather than these omnibus bills that these Congress people don't have time to read and

00:06:47.000 the American people certainly don't have time or the ability to read.

00:06:50.860 There should be more single subject bills.

00:06:53.740 I think that's a great idea.

00:06:55.280 A 72 hour window for representatives to read bills before voting.

00:06:59.640 Another great idea.

00:07:01.020 A promise to refuse any increase in the debt ceiling in the next federal budget.

00:07:06.260 Another concession was a bill to abolish the IRS and eliminate income tax.

00:07:11.320 So, I mean, obviously this does not mean that all of these bills will ultimately become

00:07:17.560 law because we don't have the majority in the Senate.

00:07:19.860 Obviously, we don't have a Republican in the White House.

00:07:22.840 But look, these Republicans in Congress are simply trying to put forth good legislation

00:07:29.900 or a promise that they will be able to put forth good legislation.

00:07:33.880 I think it tells you something.

00:07:35.620 Republicans versus Democrats.

00:07:36.940 Who looks for more transparency and less power to bureaucracy?

00:07:42.080 It's always Republicans.

00:07:43.300 I mean, how is it even a partisan issue, single issue bills?

00:07:48.540 You only want those omnibus bills if you're trying to get things through that you know

00:07:53.340 are going to be unpopular.

00:07:55.080 They might be good for you, but they're probably not good for your constituents.

00:07:59.340 Everyone benefits.

00:08:00.740 Well, the American people benefit anyway from single issue bills and the 72 hour window for

00:08:06.420 representatives to read the bills before voting.

00:08:09.040 So I know a lot of people had a problem with this so-called obstruction.

00:08:13.200 But if these were the concessions that were made by Kevin McCarthy to try to break down

00:08:18.600 that obstruction, then I would say that that was a really good strategy.

00:08:23.520 So there has been a positive development this week after all of that happened.

00:08:28.420 This is according to the New York Post.

00:08:30.240 And one of the new Republican House majority's first legislative moves on Monday, the body passed

00:08:34.820 a bill rescinding $72 billion in spending on 87,000 new IRS agents.

00:08:41.200 House Resolution 23, or the Family and Small Business Taxpayer Protection Act, passed the

00:08:45.900 lower chamber in a 221-210 vote-along party lines.

00:08:52.360 So we'll see what comes of that.

00:08:53.880 Obviously, we don't really have the numbers right now.

00:08:56.220 We don't have a majority in the Senate.

00:08:57.660 And like I said, we don't have the White House in order to pass all the laws that we want

00:09:01.260 to or pass all the bills that we want to since they become law.

00:09:04.100 However, it's good to see this kind of movement in the House under Kevin McCarthy's leadership.

00:09:10.480 Let's hope that they keep on moving the window over by pushing the kind of legislation that

00:09:15.400 actually represents the interest and the security of the American people.

00:09:19.540 What'll be interesting is how this House under Kevin McCarthy's leadership handles issues like

00:09:25.540 Ukraine.

00:09:26.880 He has been traditionally a pretty big supporter of supporting Ukraine financially.

00:09:32.680 Now, I just saw a clip this morning that Ukraine is apparently training their forces

00:09:37.420 in Oklahoma.

00:09:39.060 So we are spending lots and lots and lots and lots of resources on this country who most

00:09:45.860 that most people can't even point to on a map.

00:09:48.880 And a lot of people hadn't even heard of before last year.

00:09:53.140 However, while our own country is really struggling, certainly in the cities that are run by Democrats,

00:09:59.240 certainly at our own border.

00:10:01.720 It's interesting, again, that so many of our leaders are more interested in the sovereignty

00:10:07.300 and the security of a foreign country than they are of our own country.

00:10:11.080 And some people might say, well, you can do both.

00:10:13.180 Sure, you can.

00:10:13.740 But we're not.

00:10:14.780 That's that's the point.

00:10:15.700 We're not.

00:10:16.240 There is clearly a priority there.

00:10:18.260 So we'll see.

00:10:18.900 I hope that Kevin McCarthy's leadership is good.

00:10:21.820 I hope it's very conservative.

00:10:23.600 And I hope we can move forward in a way that actually benefits the American people.

00:10:29.280 All right.

00:10:29.760 I want to stay on this for a second.

00:10:31.780 I want to play this little clip of the minority leader of the Democrats, Hakeem Jeffries, using

00:10:36.280 the Bible to justify what Democrats stand for.

00:10:48.900 OK, so let me play this clip, the short clip from a speech by Hakeem Jeffries, again, Democratic

00:10:56.520 representative, very far left Democratic representative, by the way, who is now the House

00:11:01.120 minority leader.

00:11:02.420 Here's what he's got to say about the mission of the Democratic Party.

00:11:05.480 Now, the scripture says in Galatians, let us not become weary in doing good, for at the

00:11:13.960 proper time, we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.

00:11:20.420 Over the last two years, House Democrats, in partnership with President Biden and our

00:11:26.600 colleagues in the Senate, have been hard at work on behalf of the American people, getting

00:11:33.100 big things done.

00:11:35.960 President Biden gets the job done and the D in Democrat stands for deliver.

00:11:42.920 Now, this is very common.

00:11:44.840 This is something that you see from Democrats a lot.

00:11:47.960 This is something that you see from those who identify as progressive Christians or Democrat

00:11:53.300 Christians a lot, using the Bible for their political means, even as they are turning to 1.00

00:11:58.720 the right, pointing their finger and saying that we are Christian nationalists.

00:12:03.100 Because we have or are striving for a biblical worldview that informs our politics and our views

00:12:11.840 on culture.

00:12:12.540 Yet when they decontextualize Bible verses to support things like genital mutilation for

00:12:20.720 children who think that they're the opposite sex or the dismemberment of babies inside the

00:12:24.740 womb, apparently that's wholesome and that's well and good. 1.00

00:12:29.460 And that's a proper exegesis of scripture.

00:12:32.920 So he is using Galatians 6 there as Paul is speaking to the church at Galatia and admonishing

00:12:41.960 them to stay true to the true gospel.

00:12:44.860 And let me just give you a little context because I do think it's interesting.

00:12:48.780 So he quotes Galatians 6, 9.

00:12:51.260 But let me read you the verses surrounding that.

00:12:54.940 So this is starting in Galatians 6, verse 6.

00:12:58.800 Let the one who is taught the word share all good things with the one who teaches.

00:13:03.500 Do not be deceived.

00:13:05.360 God is not mocked.

00:13:08.520 For whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

00:13:13.280 Pay close attention now, y'all.

00:13:14.540 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. 0.96

00:13:20.880 But the one who sows to the spirit will from the spirit reap eternal life. 0.98

00:13:26.860 And let us not grow weary of doing good.

00:13:29.460 For in due season we will reap if we do not give up.

00:13:32.280 So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone and especially to those who

00:13:37.340 are of the household of faith.

00:13:40.300 So he's not primarily talking about politics here.

00:13:43.100 He's not talking about lawmakers.

00:13:45.660 I'm not saying that we can't apply Bible verses to politics or to these culture wars.

00:13:53.000 Of course, I do that often where it is appropriate to do.

00:13:56.760 But he is certainly not talking about what the Democratic Party stands for.

00:14:01.780 And that's not me to say that the Republican Party is the godly party and that Republicans

00:14:07.560 are all sincere Christians.

00:14:09.220 That's not what I'm trying to say.

00:14:11.900 But simply looking at the platform of the Democratic Party, what it stands for when it comes to

00:14:18.580 sex, sexuality, the family, gender, abortion, those things alone, which as I've said many

00:14:26.080 times are Genesis 1 issues, they go all the way back to the first chapter of the first book

00:14:32.920 of the Bible, the Democratic Party officially and systematically perverts the natural order

00:14:40.300 and breeds chaos and disorder everywhere they lead.

00:14:44.560 I mean, look at every single city that is run by Democrats.

00:14:48.840 You see chaos, you see disorder, you see misery, you see dirtiness, and you see people suffering

00:14:58.020 from the corruption and the bad and the misguided policies of progressivism.

00:15:05.760 I don't know how that qualifies in any sense, certainly not in any biblical sense, as good.

00:15:14.120 He says the Democrats are going to continue doing good.

00:15:17.940 Good for whom?

00:15:19.220 Good for the family.

00:15:20.720 Good for babies inside the womb. 1.00

00:15:22.880 Good for people living in border towns.

00:15:24.740 Good for people who become victims of the criminals who are continually let out of jail

00:15:32.620 because of progressive criminal justice policies in these cities that are run by Democrats.

00:15:39.180 Good for whom?

00:15:40.360 Certainly not good according to the God who created the very order that Democrats are constantly

00:15:47.140 at war against.

00:15:49.620 And so, I mean, I would love to have Representative Jeffries on this podcast,

00:15:53.700 and we can talk about that specifically.

00:15:56.580 But I'm not sure that we would be able to find kind of any form of commonality or agreement

00:16:04.820 because it seems like we are starting from a totally opposing premise of who God is and

00:16:11.400 who is in charge and what human beings are and why we matter and what the role of the state

00:16:17.200 is versus the role of the church and the role of the family.

00:16:21.560 The differences between the parties really are not just policy.

00:16:25.540 They come down to very fundamental ideas, again, of who made us, who is in charge, what

00:16:32.640 humans are, and why we are here.

00:16:36.320 And that is why we are continually polarized, not because our arguments or our differences

00:16:41.820 become more complex, but actually because they have become so fundamental.

00:16:46.380 And I thought his speech was a really good example of that.

00:16:49.100 It comes down to our definitions of what good is.

00:16:53.460 He says Democrats are going to continue doing good.

00:16:56.000 I haven't seen that good.

00:16:57.280 All right.

00:16:57.620 Before we get into our next story about this tweet that was going viral and my reaction

00:17:02.100 to it, I just wanted to take a little lighthearted break and look at some of the attire that was

00:17:07.620 worn at the Golden Globes last night.

00:17:09.960 Now, if you're like me, you don't really care about the celebrity world or anything that

00:17:14.300 they say and do, but come on, it's like a little fun.

00:17:17.160 I kind of like seeing what they have to wear.

00:17:20.200 So we're just going to look at some outfits.

00:17:22.520 I don't know if these are, I haven't seen them.

00:17:24.240 If they're outlandish outfits or if they're cool, if I'm supposed to rate them, I might

00:17:29.200 just give my commentary on them.

00:17:31.080 Brie picked it out or picked these outfits out.

00:17:33.600 So we're just going to take a look at them.

00:17:35.620 So you should probably watch this on YouTube so you can give your commentary too and let me

00:17:39.440 know if you like them or not.

00:17:40.540 All right, let's put up the first one. 0.65

00:17:43.680 Okay, I need some, I need some color, Brie.

00:17:46.660 Who is this?

00:17:48.560 Is it Claire Danes?

00:17:50.380 Yes.

00:17:51.020 She's an actress. 1.00

00:17:52.660 Yes.

00:17:53.140 From Romeo plus Juliet with Leonardo DiCaprio.

00:17:56.260 Yes.

00:17:58.060 And she was also in Homeland and I think she presented an award.

00:18:03.820 Okay, so why do we have this one?

00:18:05.780 What do you think about it?

00:18:07.420 I think it's atrocious.

00:18:09.140 You think it's atrocious?

00:18:10.540 You do.

00:18:11.000 Tell me.

00:18:12.800 Yeah, Dylan says it kind of looks like toilet paper.

00:18:16.060 It just, that bow, where is that coming from?

00:18:19.840 It, I don't know.

00:18:21.040 It kind of just looks like whipped cream on a dress.

00:18:24.580 It kind of looks like whipped cream.

00:18:27.460 She's very, she's like very beautiful and I think very classy. 0.99

00:18:31.760 I think the shape, like an empire waist is hard to do also if you're not pregnant. 0.99

00:18:38.540 Yeah.

00:18:39.380 Agreed.

00:18:40.540 Empire waist is hard. 0.56

00:18:41.780 So I agree.

00:18:43.100 I don't know.

00:18:43.700 I don't know if I would say atrocious.

00:18:46.080 Brie is a really harsh fashion judge. 1.00

00:18:50.260 But yeah, I wouldn't have picked this because she's like very beautiful.

00:18:54.100 And also the color is, that would be like a hard color for me because I'm blonde and I'm pale

00:18:59.460 right now and she's kind of fair too.

00:19:02.460 So, okay.

00:19:03.660 On the scale of pretty, we'll say pretty is a 10.

00:19:07.960 Atrocious is a one.

00:19:09.180 Brie says is a one.

00:19:10.540 No, I think it's a, I think it's a three.

00:19:13.140 Okay.

00:19:13.600 Yeah.

00:19:13.940 I would probably say three or four too.

00:19:16.120 All right.

00:19:16.960 Next one.

00:19:20.300 Okay.

00:19:20.780 I think, are these all ones that you did not like?

00:19:23.660 No, no, they're not.

00:19:24.860 Okay.

00:19:25.100 So what do you think about this?

00:19:27.120 But I don't like this one.

00:19:29.080 I don't like this one either.

00:19:30.580 It's a lot.

00:19:31.460 It's a lot.

00:19:32.840 Are you a ruffle person?

00:19:34.220 I'm not a ruffle person.

00:19:35.560 When they're, if they're tasteful, but this is just, this is just a lot.

00:19:40.820 Yeah.

00:19:41.320 Up top.

00:19:41.880 I think mostly up top.

00:19:43.440 Yeah.

00:19:44.300 Yeah.

00:19:44.860 Well, you can't see her body at all.

00:19:47.460 So Michelle Williams, also an actress.

00:19:49.840 She's the one who like bragged about her abortions. 1.00

00:19:52.820 Not that long ago.

00:19:53.440 Yeah.

00:19:53.560 She said, I wouldn't have won this award had I not. 0.99

00:19:56.300 Killed my child. 0.99

00:19:57.980 So awful. 0.95

00:19:59.020 So she just kind of has bad discernment all around.

00:20:01.420 Maybe.

00:20:01.880 Yeah.

00:20:02.520 Yeah.

00:20:02.700 Maybe.

00:20:03.220 And I do wonder what is with these like blonde, fair skinned women wearing beige. 1.00

00:20:08.480 I don't know.

00:20:09.380 I guess I've done it.

00:20:11.280 I can't see her shoes, but they look maybe like they're cute.

00:20:14.180 Maybe it redeems it.

00:20:15.980 Maybe.

00:20:17.960 Okay.

00:20:18.520 I would rate this a two.

00:20:19.980 I think this is worse than Claire Danes.

00:20:21.720 Yeah.

00:20:21.940 Agreed too.

00:20:23.360 Okay.

00:20:23.920 Does Dylan have any insight?

00:20:26.300 No.

00:20:27.820 Nothing nice to say.

00:20:29.500 Okay.

00:20:30.840 Number three.

00:20:35.760 You don't like this one either, do you, Bray?

00:20:38.380 It's just very costume.

00:20:41.140 It's like she's on.

00:20:42.120 I don't know.

00:20:42.800 It's like she's a. 0.89

00:20:44.100 I feel like you should wear a long dress for these kind of awards.

00:20:47.540 I mean, she's obviously beautiful.

00:20:49.020 She has great legs. 1.00

00:20:50.000 Yeah.

00:20:50.240 It's Heidi Klum.

00:20:50.980 She's great.

00:20:51.900 Yeah.

00:20:52.220 Um, yeah, no, don't like it at all.

00:20:54.680 I'm not really a feather person, but I guess kind of like ruffles that can be done well,

00:20:58.540 but I don't like this at all.

00:21:01.440 Yeah.

00:21:01.560 This is a one for me.

00:21:02.700 A one.

00:21:03.380 Okay.

00:21:03.780 I'll go.

00:21:04.280 Sure.

00:21:04.880 Solidarity.

00:21:05.200 Maybe I'll go with one.

00:21:06.420 All right.

00:21:06.820 Next one.

00:21:09.360 You don't like this one either.

00:21:11.140 Do you?

00:21:11.400 Well, okay.

00:21:11.700 So this just confused me a little bit.

00:21:13.420 This is Emma Darcy.

00:21:14.600 I don't know who that is.

00:21:15.520 She's in House of the Dragon.

00:21:17.720 I don't think that's the correct pronoun for her, but.

00:21:20.900 Oh, gosh.

00:21:23.040 And, well, yeah.

00:21:25.240 And I just didn't really know what was going on here.

00:21:28.520 So I included it.

00:21:29.200 Does this person always dress like this?

00:21:31.160 I don't know.

00:21:32.140 Yeah.

00:21:32.740 Yes.

00:21:33.160 Kayla says yes.

00:21:34.580 I mean, not in like black tuxedos, but yeah, they dress very ambiguous.

00:21:40.220 Yeah.

00:21:40.540 Ambiguous.

00:21:41.120 Okay.

00:21:41.520 Androgynous.

00:21:42.080 If people are just listening to this, it's like a suit.

00:21:47.060 I think it's a skirt, but it's also like a very oversized coat, and it looks like a purple

00:21:51.880 latex glove and a bow tie.

00:21:56.280 But sparkly shoes.

00:21:57.200 I like the shoes.

00:21:58.400 Sparkly shoes.

00:21:59.160 I mean, this is a one or a zero for me.

00:22:01.880 Does nothing.

00:22:03.100 I feel like this isn't even on the scale.

00:22:05.000 It's not even on the scale.

00:22:06.640 Yeah.

00:22:07.000 Probably just trying to make a statement.

00:22:09.100 Looks scary.

00:22:10.020 Looks like a villain in an 1850s movie.

00:22:13.280 It does.

00:22:14.780 Just saying.

00:22:15.640 A couple.

00:22:16.080 We have a couple more.

00:22:16.840 Okay.

00:22:17.840 I'm waiting for the one you like, Bree.

00:22:20.580 This is Julia Garner.

00:22:22.160 She's in Ozark.

00:22:23.220 Yes.

00:22:23.840 Yes.

00:22:24.200 I've seen her.

00:22:24.800 Um, you like this one?

00:22:26.440 I do.

00:22:27.820 You do.

00:22:30.080 Do you not?

00:22:31.060 No, I don't.

00:22:32.540 One, I don't think it's a good color on her.

00:22:36.600 Um, I would also dye her hair probably, maybe brown. 1.00

00:22:40.720 But, uh, I think it's a good like shape on her.

00:22:43.780 Like she looks very pretty, but no, I, and I don't, I don't like these ruffles at all.

00:22:49.380 Wow.

00:22:50.540 I love it.

00:22:51.540 I think it is really flattering.

00:22:53.120 It's so cute.

00:22:53.800 It is flattering.

00:22:54.780 I would give it an eight.

00:22:56.160 Wow.

00:22:56.720 Bree.

00:22:59.200 Wow.

00:22:59.820 No, I'm going to go.

00:23:01.900 I honestly maybe prefer a Claire Danes is to this.

00:23:05.500 I would say two or three probably.

00:23:08.520 Wow.

00:23:08.880 So do you think Bree that or Kayla or Dylan, when celebrities are picking out these outfits

00:23:15.580 that they are doing it, that they pick out outfits that they really like, or do they,

00:23:21.920 do you think that they pick out ones that are just like interesting or quirky or make

00:23:25.820 a statement?

00:23:27.360 I think they're picked for them.

00:23:29.720 Yeah.

00:23:30.220 It probably depends on the, on the celebrity, but I think a lot of times they're like matched

00:23:34.920 with a designer and the designer just puts them in whatever.

00:23:38.120 I'm sure they have a say, but yeah, I feel like a lot of times they just kind of wear

00:23:42.900 whatever they're given.

00:23:44.120 Hmm.

00:23:44.640 I think, I don't know.

00:23:45.860 I don't know either.

00:23:47.080 I don't know.

00:23:48.440 Okay.

00:23:48.980 Uh, do we have one more?

00:23:50.280 Yeah.

00:23:50.760 Okay.

00:23:52.020 No, I think we have two more.

00:23:53.580 This is Letitia Wright.

00:23:55.960 She's in Black Panther. 0.99

00:23:56.860 Oh my gosh.

00:23:56.880 She's so beautiful.

00:23:58.760 She's gorgeous.

00:23:59.500 She is so beautiful.

00:24:02.100 No, no, no, no.

00:24:05.520 I mean, she like could wear, I would say that she could wear like anything and that she would 1.00

00:24:10.400 look gorgeous, but this just doesn't look like it fits her.

00:24:13.040 It looks too big.

00:24:14.160 Yeah.

00:24:14.420 It's kind of potato sacky.

00:24:16.000 Dylan says she looks like a beer glass.

00:24:17.820 I think she looks like an enchilada. 0.73

00:24:19.580 Or an enchilada.

00:24:20.380 An enchilada.

00:24:21.540 It does.

00:24:22.040 So people who can't see it, it's like an orange.

00:24:25.760 I'm sure it's like an orange design, but it does look like an orange picture.

00:24:29.320 It kind of looks like those like funny shirts that people wear with like someone else's like

00:24:35.220 beer belly painted on it.

00:24:36.640 That's what it looks like.

00:24:38.380 I mean, she's so pretty.

00:24:39.840 She could have worn so many things that would look so pretty on her.

00:24:44.100 Yeah.

00:24:44.220 I just didn't think it was.

00:24:45.300 I don't think it's it fits very well.

00:24:46.720 Although I do like the shoes.

00:24:47.920 I can tell.

00:24:49.400 Yeah.

00:24:50.300 So, yeah, this is like all this is like a one for me.

00:24:53.280 I'm sorry, Letitia.

00:24:55.860 Okay.

00:24:56.220 We got Margot Robbie for number seven, who I think is beautiful always.

00:25:00.780 Yeah.

00:25:01.100 She's so beautiful.

00:25:03.560 This is okay.

00:25:05.480 I don't know.

00:25:06.880 Maybe five.

00:25:07.760 I think this was on theme with her movie Babylon, which I haven't seen, but she plays like a

00:25:12.760 flapper girl, I guess.

00:25:14.300 Oh, okay.

00:25:15.740 So that might be what this is.

00:25:17.260 But the fringe at the bottom just is a little too much.

00:25:20.260 Too much for you.

00:25:22.620 I think the shape of it is pretty.

00:25:26.160 It's like kind of like modest, which I'm sure she's not necessarily trying to do.

00:25:32.880 Yeah.

00:25:33.420 I think I would also prefer it to not have that fringe all the way to the bottom.

00:25:37.100 Yeah.

00:25:38.120 Yeah.

00:25:38.600 But I would still go to a four or five.

00:25:40.060 I also think she's so pretty.

00:25:41.440 Have we seen the Barbie movie?

00:25:42.640 Has it come out?

00:25:43.400 It hasn't come out yet, but I'm excited.

00:25:45.340 That's actually one of my favorite directors who's doing it.

00:25:47.460 So I'm excited.

00:25:48.280 Oh, really?

00:25:48.620 Yeah.

00:25:48.800 And Ryan Gosling.

00:25:50.200 Yeah.

00:25:50.880 Wow.

00:26:02.500 Okay.

00:26:02.960 So I wanted to talk about this Jackie Hill Perry video that she posted on her Instagram

00:26:08.380 stories.

00:26:08.880 Now, sadly, I did not get to see this Instagram story myself because Jackie Hill Perry blocked

00:26:14.220 me for reasons that I'm not really sure about.

00:26:16.600 She blocked me a while ago.

00:26:18.640 We do have some disagreements, and I'm pretty sure that she blocked me before I ever even

00:26:26.460 talked about any of these disagreements publicly.

00:26:30.160 But I do disagree with her when it comes to many of the statements that she has made

00:26:34.920 on social and so-called racial justice.

00:26:38.780 And I've talked about those disagreements on this podcast.

00:26:41.300 You can go back and listen to a couple of those episodes, or just you can probably deduce

00:26:45.200 based on the things that I have said and based on the things that she has said.

00:26:48.760 But I continue to respect her bringing of the gospel.

00:26:54.040 And I hope and pray that God continues to increase her ministry and that people come to know Christ

00:27:00.100 through her because of the Holy Spirit.

00:27:03.480 So I really don't feel any kind of personal resentment, animus at all towards her.

00:27:11.200 I don't know if she would say the same since she blocked me on social media.

00:27:14.420 But I hope the best for her.

00:27:21.620 And even though we do have some serious disagreements, I am thankful that she is publicly talking about

00:27:28.740 something that I have talked about for a few years.

00:27:32.200 And not just me, but many Christians have been talking about for several years.

00:27:35.920 And that is the potential pitfalls of the Enneagram.

00:27:40.200 She posted on her Instagram story.

00:27:45.040 She says, I'm going to say this.

00:27:48.140 And she said that I was really skeptical and have been for some years when people were saying

00:27:55.780 that the Enneagram was demonic because I do feel like sometimes people can be way too deep.

00:28:00.300 But the Lord prompted me to study that thing for a good two days.

00:28:03.780 Evil.

00:28:04.240 It ain't even funny.

00:28:05.580 Legitimately doctrines of demons.

00:28:07.300 Divination.

00:28:08.240 Witchcraft.

00:28:08.880 I had no idea.

00:28:09.880 No idea.

00:28:11.200 Okay.

00:28:11.560 So one of the dudes who is the originator of the contemporary understanding of the Enneagram

00:28:15.600 as we know it, he said that he got his information about it from an angelic visitation from a spirit

00:28:22.260 or divine being named Metatron, which we know is a demon.

00:28:26.620 And then the other guy who created the types, he said on YouTube that he got his understanding

00:28:31.780 of the wisdom of types through automatic writing, which is a form of channeling spirits where

00:28:36.840 a demon basically guides your hand or guides your mind to help you write down certain ideas.

00:28:42.300 So when we say, oh, I'm type one, type two, type three, whatever, we are literally applying

00:28:48.060 to our identity the quote unquote wisdom of demons.

00:28:51.700 It's literally that deep.

00:28:53.800 And I was telling my husband part of this.

00:28:56.320 I've talked about Enneagram on several occasions.

00:28:58.020 And so part of me feels a responsibility to renounce it publicly and to bring attention

00:29:02.080 to the demonic nature of it.

00:29:04.120 So I am very glad that she is talking about this.

00:29:07.240 I wrote about this in my book.

00:29:10.300 And this really does go all the way back to the 19th century when there was very much a

00:29:15.840 boom of psychology, psychiatry and new age beliefs and Eastern mysticism that eventually

00:29:24.940 moved its way to the West and has really stayed here and grown here, has paired itself with

00:29:30.880 capitalism and self-help and the prosperity gospel and has really just kind of grabbed

00:29:37.740 hold of the U.S.

00:29:39.460 And I would say especially women in a lot of ways.

00:29:42.220 And the Enneagram is a part of that.

00:29:45.140 The Enneagram, like she said, was created by someone who claims that he got the vision

00:29:50.360 of the Enneagram from a demon.

00:29:54.160 And the people who propagate it to this day, like Richard Rohr, who is a Franciscan friar, who

00:29:59.500 is not a Christian in any real sense of the word, he does not believe that Jesus is the

00:30:03.860 way, the truth and the life and that no one comes to the Father except through him.

00:30:07.720 Like he has talked about the kind of contemplative attributes of the Enneagram and how there is

00:30:18.760 kind of a spiritual side of it that really has nothing to do with Christian spirituality,

00:30:22.660 but is really more mystic and Gnostic and New Age spirituality.

00:30:28.240 Now, I know a lot of people will rebuff me.

00:30:32.340 I've been talking about this for a long time.

00:30:34.060 I was not the first person to talk about it, so I don't want it to seem like I'm claiming

00:30:37.360 that I was the first person to criticize the Enneagram.

00:30:39.960 I wasn't the first person to.

00:30:41.780 It has been several years, but there were people who for several years before me had been

00:30:46.220 talking about it and had received a lot of criticism for it.

00:30:50.400 And I still get a lot of pushback from people saying, well, it's helped me.

00:30:55.160 It's helped my marriage.

00:30:56.180 It helped me in my job.

00:30:57.340 It helped me under understand myself.

00:31:00.680 And you're taking it too seriously.

00:31:03.540 Jackie Hill Perry even said, like, I think people go too deep with stuff, which I agree.

00:31:08.800 I do think some people take some things too seriously and they see something.

00:31:13.180 They see it like something spiritual and things that are not necessarily evil or dark or something

00:31:20.780 like that.

00:31:22.140 However, when it comes to this and you really are talking about an inspiration from a demonic

00:31:29.460 vision, I do think that that should give Christians pause to say, well, like maybe this isn't the

00:31:37.700 wisdom that I'm really looking for, or maybe this isn't the place that I should go to who

00:31:42.900 discover who I am and how I tick.

00:31:45.760 I am not discounting the possibility that the Enneagram has helped you in some way, but I

00:31:54.460 am saying that it is not going to be the solution to your problems that you are looking for, just

00:32:01.320 like any other personality test.

00:32:03.840 Now, personality tests are not all demonic.

00:32:06.720 They don't all have the same kind of new age origin, but they do all have kind of the

00:32:13.080 same temptation, I would say.

00:32:15.600 The temptation to focus too much on ourselves, too much on our quirks, too much on our characteristics,

00:32:22.080 to try to say the things that are really sin and are really unholy and are really bad parts

00:32:28.280 of ourselves or just kind of quirky and unique parts of our personality that people just need

00:32:33.840 to kind of understand and adapt to.

00:32:36.340 I think it can make us focus less on being sanctified to become like Christ and to embody

00:32:43.040 the fruit of the spirit and more to become the best version of the one with the two wing or whatever

00:32:48.080 our Enneagram is or otter or INFG, whatever it is.

00:32:53.920 So I think that they can, some of these, without the demonic origin of them, although they do

00:33:01.080 all kind of have this like psychiatry, pseudo-spiritual innocence background, I think that they can possibly

00:33:13.580 be a tool to kind of help you understand what your strengths and weaknesses are and how God

00:33:18.800 made you, but they cannot be relied on for self-understanding.

00:33:23.740 They cannot be relied on for you to understand your spouse.

00:33:27.520 They cannot be relied on to understand your friends because all of us, whether you're a

00:33:32.300 one or a nine or an otter or a beaver, we are all called to be like Christ.

00:33:36.840 We are all called to embody love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, goodness,

00:33:42.260 faithfulness, faithfulness, and self-control.

00:33:45.520 And you are not more called to those things if you are a naturally loyal and gentle person.

00:33:53.020 You are not less called to those things if you're a naturally boisterous person.

00:33:57.860 Yes, God has given us all unique capabilities and unique characteristics.

00:34:02.200 That's part of being the body of Christ.

00:34:05.140 That's part of being one member of the body of Christ.

00:34:08.000 I might be a hand of the body of Christ.

00:34:09.900 You might be a foot of the body of Christ, like we read about this in scripture, how all

00:34:15.760 members rely on each other.

00:34:17.780 We all need one another and we all have our specific capabilities and gifts that God has

00:34:22.960 given us.

00:34:23.840 Ephesians talks about this as well, that God has given us all our specific spiritual gifts

00:34:28.320 to serve the body of Christ.

00:34:30.240 It is not for the purpose simply of self-fulfillment and self-understanding and liberating your true

00:34:36.420 self because you finally understand your Enneagram type.

00:34:39.900 So that's why I think personality tests in general, no matter what their origin is, while

00:34:45.100 some of them can be useful tools, I think they can also become a distraction from focusing

00:34:51.720 on Christ.

00:34:53.060 We do not have a problem as a society with self-love and self-focus.

00:34:58.320 I know that we hear constantly that we do.

00:35:00.960 We hear constantly that if everyone just loved themselves more, if everyone just understood

00:35:05.100 themselves more, if everyone just thought about themselves more and pursued what they

00:35:09.560 want more and focused more on their own happiness and prioritize their well-being first, then

00:35:14.320 the world would be peaceful.

00:35:15.700 Everyone would have what they want.

00:35:17.100 Their relationships would be great.

00:35:18.500 But that's not true.

00:35:19.260 We do not have a deficit of self-love, self-affection, self-affirmation, self-understanding, self-seeking

00:35:27.140 in this country.

00:35:28.560 In fact, we have too much of those things.

00:35:31.400 Our problem is not that we lack self-love.

00:35:33.900 It's not that we don't like ourselves enough.

00:35:35.800 It's actually that we focus on ourselves way too much.

00:35:39.100 Way too much.

00:35:39.940 You know what kind of Disney princess you are. 0.60

00:35:42.100 You know what color matches your personality.

00:35:44.420 Like, I mean, all of our algorithms and all of our social media apps are perfectly tailored

00:35:49.860 to not every, not only every interest you have, but every interest you possibly could

00:35:54.380 have based on what you are thinking and what you looked at for a second too long on TikTok,

00:35:59.440 on Instagram.

00:36:00.580 Everything is oriented around the self.

00:36:04.140 I'm just not sure that Christians need to be adding one more thing to help us think about 1.00

00:36:10.700 ourselves and focus on ourselves more.

00:36:12.280 Like, what if really the exercise we need to be doing to help us cultivate joy is to focus

00:36:18.200 outside of ourselves, to understand who God is and why he made us, why we're here, who

00:36:24.900 we are as human beings.

00:36:27.860 Like, what if we should be looking outside of ourselves for the love and the joy and the

00:36:32.900 fulfillment that we're seeking?

00:36:34.640 What if it's actually a lot more simple than personality tests and the Enneagram tell us

00:36:40.060 that it is?

00:36:40.460 What if it's not so complicated to study in something like that with nine types?

00:36:44.840 Like, what if we already have the roadmap in Christ?

00:36:48.120 Like, what if we already have everything we need to understand human nature, to understand

00:36:52.520 ourselves and to understand other people in God, in scripture?

00:36:55.760 Again, there are good supplementary books, obviously, and good supplementary tools to all

00:37:01.040 of those things.

00:37:03.160 But are they necessary to knowing ourselves, if that's even a worthy goal?

00:37:07.920 Is it necessary to living a life of fulfillment and joy and working well with other people?

00:37:12.760 I don't think so.

00:37:14.520 And isn't that good news?

00:37:15.760 Like, that we don't have to figure out the next personality test or understand our type perfectly

00:37:21.700 or anything like that in order to really live well?

00:37:26.620 Maybe some of them can help.

00:37:28.720 But it's not necessary and sometimes can even be a distraction to actually living a fulfilling

00:37:36.240 life in who we are in Christ.

00:37:38.000 Because we already know, we already know that we are new creations in Christ if, indeed, by

00:37:44.080 grace through faith, we believe in Him.

00:37:47.080 And so we already know what our identity is and isn't that good news?

00:37:51.460 So maybe let's take a deep breath and stop focusing so much on ourselves because I actually

00:37:56.160 think that that self-obsession is making us more miserable rather than less.

00:38:12.080 Okay, I said that was our last sponsor.

00:38:13.700 It's not our last sponsor.

00:38:14.520 We've got one more sponsor in a little bit.

00:38:17.360 Okay, let me talk about this next story.

00:38:19.560 So there was this viral tweet that was going on.

00:38:22.800 It was originally tweeted, I saw by, let's see, is this the name of it?

00:38:29.820 I thought it was, yeah, it's Raw Egg Nationalist who originally tweeted this.

00:38:34.740 And he said, say what you want about Reddit, but it's an amazing tool for peering into people's

00:38:40.760 souls.

00:38:40.940 And here's what he means by that.

00:38:44.840 So this is a post on Reddit.

00:38:47.200 And I see a lot of these posts because I follow a lot of these accounts that repost these kinds

00:38:52.060 of things from Reddit onto Twitter.

00:38:54.520 And it really is an interesting look into especially the men who want to identify as women into their

00:39:01.260 psychology.

00:39:01.720 And it's actually like, it's very sad. 0.99

00:39:03.760 So this person says, holy expletive, I hate cis women. 1.00

00:39:09.920 So cis women, if you don't know, that means cis gender. 0.97

00:39:13.440 So that means women who are actually women, who were born women, you know, have the right chromosomes,

00:39:18.900 all of that.

00:39:20.320 There's no such thing, of course, as a cis woman, because there's no such thing as a trans woman.

00:39:25.780 You are either male or female. 0.69

00:39:27.500 That is determined at the point of conception based on your chromosomes.

00:39:30.780 Don't talk to me about intersex. 1.00

00:39:32.600 That is an anomaly and a disorder that does not rewrite the rule of sex. 0.60

00:39:37.640 And gender has nothing to do with transgender, actually.

00:39:40.020 So this person says, I'm at a restaurant right now, supposed to be a date.

00:39:45.060 But of expletive course, the cis woman I was speaking to, women, I think it means woman, 0.75

00:39:51.900 I was speaking to flaked on me once.

00:39:54.600 She learned I was trans, which happened, expletive, whatever.

00:39:58.980 But what's driving me expletive bonkers is the table next to me.

00:40:02.480 Three girls, all early 20s, slim, bubbly, sundresses, talking about nails and boyfriends

00:40:07.920 and sex, all just basking in the femininity that I've spent my life and my savings just trying 0.80

00:40:12.460 to get a taste of.

00:40:13.720 It's just salt on the wound after being stood up by one of their kind. 1.00

00:40:18.180 I expletive hate them so much and they don't even know it.

00:40:21.020 It's not fair.

00:40:22.140 They'll never, ever know the struggle women like us have to go through just to feel like 1.00

00:40:26.240 that.

00:40:26.540 So now I'm stuck here listening to them laughing and chatting about their perfect lives and

00:40:30.740 throwing back Bombay gin until I can drive home good and trashed.

00:40:34.300 Wow.

00:40:34.580 A lot of bad decisions.

00:40:36.660 A lot of bad decisions in this post.

00:40:39.080 I really hope that that person doesn't drive drunk and hurt himself or the other people

00:40:42.920 around him.

00:40:43.600 But this is really common.

00:40:46.660 I see this in a lot of I see this kind of thing in a lot of posts where you've got these

00:40:51.580 men who say that they want to be women who are really they say they're really jealous

00:40:55.740 and really resentful of actual women.

00:40:58.160 And they're like, oh, I'll never truly be like that.

00:41:00.460 So part of that is clear thinking that they understand that they will never fully be perceived

00:41:05.860 as women, which is true, and that that's just not going to happen because that's simply 1.00

00:41:12.000 not how they were born.

00:41:13.520 But the delusional part is that they think it's everyone else's fault, that everyone

00:41:17.700 should just perceive them as girls, as women, because that is simply what they want to be. 1.00

00:41:23.700 But human nature is like a beach ball.

00:41:25.720 It's going to keep popping back up.

00:41:27.340 The no matter how many times you try to push it under the water, you can use all of your

00:41:31.860 force and it's still going to come back up to the surface.

00:41:34.980 And that is the reality of male and female. 0.58

00:41:38.520 It's just it just cannot be ever fully or fundamentally diminished.

00:41:44.360 And that is what seems to torture these people.

00:41:47.000 However, I do think that this jealousy and this hatred of women actually probably predates

00:41:52.100 these people thinking that they are transgender, thinking that they are the opposite sex.

00:41:56.920 I would say that's probably actually what inspires some of it, that it probably actually came

00:42:02.120 from a place of resentment and bitterness and hatred and jealousy first.

00:42:06.700 And then maybe it was something like if you can't beat them, join them.

00:42:10.660 I think a lot of these guys probably dealt with confusion, some of them abuse, some of them

00:42:15.000 rejection.

00:42:16.800 And that kind of hurt probably led to this attempt to don a new identity to become a woman. 1.00

00:42:24.980 But I think a lot of the hatred for women that you see and a lot of the confusion also that

00:42:30.820 you see here is an addiction to porn.

00:42:33.140 Like as we've talked about several times with Genevieve Gluck, that this phenomenon of men,

00:42:39.300 of boys trying to become women, a lot of it is inspired by dark, dark crevices of the 0.93

00:42:45.360 pornography world.

00:42:46.480 And pornography also breeds the hatred and the objectification of women, demeaning and 0.99

00:42:55.000 degrading attitudes towards women.

00:42:56.980 That is what a lot of porn is.

00:42:59.840 And so that's where I think a lot of this comes from.

00:43:02.060 I think a lot of these young men, they hate women for a variety of reasons, one of them

00:43:06.580 being the depictions in pornography.

00:43:08.040 And that also is what kind of pushes them to try to take on these new identities, because

00:43:14.320 that is also depicted in dark crevices of pornography.

00:43:18.180 So, I mean, there is a reason why women say it's really important to stand up for our privacy 1.00

00:43:25.240 and for our rights and for our protection and why it is important to have sex exclusive

00:43:32.840 spaces.

00:43:33.820 And unfortunately, it's not going that direction in a lot of ways.

00:43:37.220 But when this is, again, a very common attitude and a very common post, I'm not saying all

00:43:42.600 men who identify as women feel like this, but this is very common.

00:43:46.360 And like that should scare people.

00:43:48.260 That should wake people up to say, OK, this is not just some innocent movement of people

00:43:52.980 trying to be included.

00:43:54.020 This is a lot of these people hate women. 1.00

00:43:56.900 They hate women. 1.00

00:43:57.980 They resent them. 1.00

00:43:58.900 They're bitter towards them.

00:44:00.520 And the result of that, of mixing that kind of person with women in private and vulnerable 0.95

00:44:07.900 spaces, I don't think it's good.

00:44:10.380 That's why you have the stories that you do of men in women's prisons who identify as

00:44:15.920 women, inflicting violence on them. 0.99

00:44:19.980 This is not a safe movement for women and for girls. 0.72

00:44:24.080 I think that we know that that's a that's a major understatement.

00:44:37.840 All right.

00:44:38.820 That's all we've got for today.

00:44:40.880 There were a few more things that we wanted to talk about, but we're already almost at

00:44:44.680 an hour.

00:44:45.320 And so we're out of time.

00:44:46.840 We've got a lot of good stuff that we're going to talk about tomorrow, too.

00:44:49.640 So lots to look forward to.

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00:45:00.180 That really that really helps us out.

00:45:03.180 And you know what I'm going to do?

00:45:04.560 I'm going to give you my the voicemail number for Relatable.

00:45:07.200 We'll take some voicemails and maybe we'll read them.

00:45:10.880 We'll read them in a maybe tomorrow or maybe next week as a segment.

00:45:15.260 I don't even know what I'm going to ask you to say, though.

00:45:17.440 682-503-1369.

00:45:19.800 682-503-1369.

00:45:21.540 Do you got a question for me?

00:45:22.780 A relationship question?

00:45:23.980 A life question?

00:45:25.020 Make it short.

00:45:25.700 Make it snappy.

00:45:26.560 Make it concise.

00:45:27.340 Or maybe you just have an interesting comment.

00:45:29.040 We can only get through a few.

00:45:30.540 And so we'll have to wade through the voicemails that you guys send and pick the ones that we

00:45:35.560 want to listen to on air.

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00:45:45.400 All right.

00:45:45.740 That's all we have time for today.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - January 11, 2023

Ep 737 ｜ Jackie Hill Perry Renounces the Enneagram

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