Ep 742 ｜ Welcome to America： Say Gay or Get Out
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A Christian hockey player for the Philadelphia Flyers refused to wear a Pride jersey this week and the media is spitting mad about it. A new investigative report from Town Hall has uncovered unbelievably disturbing details about a gay couple who adopted two boys in Georgia only to serially abuse them despite one of the men having a recorded history of child sexual assault.
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A Christian hockey player for the Philadelphia Flyers refused to wear a pride jersey this week
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and the media is spitting mad about it. A new investigative report from Town Hall has uncovered
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unbelievably disturbing details about a gay couple who adopted two boys in Georgia only to serially
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abuse them despite one of the men having a recorded history of child sexual assault.
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So the question I have is how did this get past the Christian special needs adoption agency
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that handed over these young boys to their abusers? Man, I've got a lot to say about that. So we've
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone has had a wonderful week. Man,
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you guys have been loving yesterday's episode. If you haven't listened to my conversation with Taylor
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Dukes talking about wellness and natural living, how to realistically do all of that, and then also
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talking about her journey with a brain tumor and how we wed natural medicine and kind of what we think
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of as holistic healing with modern medicine and technology. And she is living that in real time
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right now. Go listen to yesterday's episodes, just an hour jam packed with all kinds of education and
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I've had so many questions about. And I was also just edified by her testimony. So make sure that you go
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check that out. All right. We're going to get through a few stories today. We are first going to talk
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about this hockey player, Ivan Provorov, who is a hockey player, which is not very surprising. If you
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have that name, either you have to be a hockey player or you have to be a UFC fighter. Those are
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the only fates for you if your name is Ivan Provorov. And it's also pretty obvious that you are probably
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of a Russian background. And Ivan Provorov, who plays for the Philadelphia Flyers, had never heard of
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that. But I'm not much of a sports gal, as many of you guys know. He is Russian Orthodox and he refused
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to wear a pride jersey for some kind of pride night, I guess, that the National Hockey League that the
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NHL was having. This is according to Yahoo News. On Tuesday, January 17th, the Philadelphia Flyers wore
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pride themed warm up jerseys and hockey sticks before their game with the items going up for auction to
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benefit charity. Why? Why? Of all things, like they're sick and homeless and vulnerable and abused
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and all kinds of in harm's way people out there, all kinds of causes that don't force the people who
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are supporting the causes to kind of draw moral and theological lines. I mean, honestly, like I think
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if every company and every sports league and every mainstream entity, both nationally and many
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institutions internationally are donning rainbow jerseys and rainbow flags, I think that that
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disqualifies you from being an oppressed, marginalized group. So Ivan Provorov, sorry about that,
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um, he, you know, took issue with this. He is an alternate captain and he, as I said, is Russian,
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Russian Orthodox. He refused to wear the jersey on grounds of it, violating his religious beliefs.
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And, uh, here he is in an interview kind of just talking about why he refused to use this hockey
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stick and wear this pride jersey. I respect everybody. I respect everybody's choices. My choice is to stay
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true to myself and my religion. That's all I'm going to say. Ivan, did you have any concern that not
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participating in warmups? Did you not, did you not hear what I just said? Can you respect that?
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Yeah. I mean, honestly, he shouldn't have even had to caveat what he said in the beginning. Like I
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respect everyone and I respect everyone's choices. Look, I don't respect everyone's choices. I respect
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everyone as being made in the image of God and everyone has equal value as an image bearer of
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God. However, I don't respect everyone's choices. And I know like I'm not criticizing him for that
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because look, you're put in a tough position. You're facing the media who are antagonistic towards
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you for simply living out what you believe. And you're just trying to say, look, I respect other
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people. I'm not trying to change them. So stop trying to change me. And so, and that's, I mean,
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that's fair. This shouldn't even be a story at all. I shouldn't even have to be talking about it on
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my podcast because no, no player should be forced or even encouraged to wear a Jersey celebrating
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pride. It just doesn't even make any sense. But people of course are very angry about this. The
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NHL even put out a statement supporting both the Flyers pride night theme and Provorov's right to sit out
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of the pregame skate. So he didn't even do the pregame skate celebrating pride night. And you know
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what? Good for him. That's really not that easy. We've had several athletes, not even several, I would
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say a few athletes over the past few years kind of do the same thing. There was some baseball player,
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I think last year that also, you know, said, look, I'm a Christian and I respect people, but you're not
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going to make me put on this rainbow Jersey. I mean, duh, no one should even question that. It's a
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silly thing to even get worked up about. But, uh, there are some journalists who cover hockey who are
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very upset about this person's decision not to hit the puck with a rainbow hockey stick. Here's that.
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The theme from the National Hockey League is hockey is for everyone. Okay. The theme is not
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hockey is for everyone, dot, dot, dot, unless you don't believe in gay rights, then do whatever you
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want. The National Hockey League need to attack this and figure this out. Because what I heard last
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night was offensive and didn't make any sense. Nothing scares me more than any human being who says,
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I'm not doing this because of my religious beliefs. Because when you looked at people's lives, you
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normally say that publicly, you'd throw up at what you saw. You would throw up at what you saw. The
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National Hockey League today needs to find that organization a million dollars and reevaluate how
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they support gay rights. Cause, cause that is insulting. What are you even talking about?
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What are, what are you talking about? This is scary that someone says, Hey, because I'm religious,
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I don't want to celebrate sex between two men or two women because someone holds the belief about
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sexuality and marriage that most human beings around the world, actually, regardless of their
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religious background held for thousands and thousands of years, because he holds the belief
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about sexuality and marriage and gender that just a few years ago, the majority of Americans,
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and still, I'm sure the majority of Russians, I'm just guessing, still hold to, that there is a
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special status of relationship between a man and a woman that is not interchangeable with a
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relationship between two men or relationship between two women. And by the way, nowadays, if you don the
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pride flag, you're not just saying, Hey, you believe that two women or two men should be able to
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get married under the law. You are now accepting all of the gender ideology and the gender nonsense
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that comes with what has become and really what has always been, but really what has become an even
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uglier objectively from a design standpoint flag. You have to accept the baby colors put together with
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the light baby blue and the light baby pink and the white that represents transgenderism. So you have to
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acknowledge or you have to affirm this idea every time you put on that kind of flag, because this is
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what pride encompasses now. You have to affirm this idea that a man can become a woman and a woman can
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become a man. I guarantee you none of the hockey players that put on this jersey really think that
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because no one really thinks that people have deluded themselves into into thinking that maybe or they
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have tricked themselves into believing they really think that. But at the end of the day, everyone knows that
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there are biological, fundamental, unchangeable differences between men and women. That's why you
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don't see in the NHL any so-called trans men, you know, girls who are born as girls, women who identify
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as men. There's a reason for that because they would get pummels. They would very likely die. They
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wouldn't be able to compete against them. Like we understand that there is an immutable distinction
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between men and women, but most people on the hockey team, they just don't want to make a fuss about it.
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They just want their paycheck. They don't want the media attention. And so they're just going to do
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it. And this guy said, I'm not going to because you know what? I am under the authority of someone
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higher than the NHL and higher than the media. I am held accountable to something and someone higher.
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Now, that's not to say I agree with everything that, you know, Russian Orthodox theology is. It is
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Trinitarian. So that's an important aspect of being Christian. They believe that Jesus is the Son of God.
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They believe that the Bible or they say that they believe that the Bible is the Word of God, but it's really
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kind of closer to Roman Catholicism than it is, you know, kind of the rest of non-Catholicism or the rest of
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Protestantism. I don't even know if you can include it as Protestantism. So it's pretty close to Catholicism, but we share a lot
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of the same core tenet beliefs. And so he believes that, I guess, that Jesus and what the Bible says
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about gender and sexuality is more important than what the activists of today are saying. And we should
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be applauding that. Good for him. That's not an easy thing to do. A senior NHL writer for ESPN is also
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freaking out about this. Greg Wyshynski says, Ivan Provorov is the only NHL Flyers player not to have
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a pride jersey up for post-game auction. The sale of pre-game jerseys and rainbow sticks
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benefit Flyers charities in efforts to grow the game in diverse communities. Provorov owes them a
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donation. He doesn't owe them anything. He does not owe them anything. And I understand, like, these
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tyrants, these totalitarians really believe that you should be forcibly punished for not only,
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not just not accepting them, but not celebrating them. You must be forced to celebrate. Not just
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forced to care, not just forced to acknowledge, not just forced to accept or tolerate. You must be
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forced to celebrate. And if you do not celebrate, you must pay. Now, these are the very people that
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point their fingers at save those of us who don't believe that babies should be dismembered inside
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the womb and say with a straight face that we are fascists. All right. Everything that a leftist
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activist and certainly a leftist journalist says is projection. Every time they talk about the
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handmaid's tale, talk about tyranny, talk about totalitarianism, talk about fascism, they're really
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just projecting. And that, of course, is what's happening here. Also, an NHL analyst freaked out
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this is, let's see, what network is this on? I'm not sure. This is on the NHL network. This is on the
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NHL network. This is an NHL analyst, EJ Heretic. And he is very, very, very upset about this too. Here
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he is. And Ivan Program can get on a plane any day he wants and go back to a place where he feels more
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comfortable, take less money and get on with his life that way. If it's that problematic for him,
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if this is that much of a problem for him to maybe assimilate into his group of teammates and in the
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community and here in this country, that's OK. Listen, you can feel any way you want. But the beauty
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is, if it bothers you that much, there's always a chance to leave. Go back where you feel more
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comfortable. I understand there's a conflict of sorts going on over there. Maybe get involved.
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Wow. Wow. OK, so I have so many comments about this. So if you do not celebrate the idea of girls
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being able to come boys, become boys and boys being able to come girls, if you do not celebrate
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gay sex, then you need to leave the country. That's the ultimatum here. Like, that's what it is.
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If you do not celebrate it by donning the flags at your job, then you need to leave the country.
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You need to assimilate. Apparently assimilating into the United States is celebrating homosexuality
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and transgenderism, which is actually probably true. It's become such a like a mainstream core
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value of the United States. I mean, of the U.S. military, of the U.S. education system that I
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guess it is a part of assimilation. But the only reason that he is allowed to use the word assimilate
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and is allowed to say, go back to where you came from if you're not going to celebrate the gays
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is because this guy is Russian and is because this guy is white. Now, would he really be able to say
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maybe? I'm not sure. He might be able to get away with this because we're talking about gay stuff
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and on the hierarchy of intersectionality. It's hard to see, like, who's more marginalized.
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But if this guy were from Africa, if this guy were from Brazil, if he were brown and he decided
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not to celebrate this, would he be able to say you need to assimilate into our values,
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which is celebrating gay stuff, or you need to go back to your country?
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No, he's only allowed to say that because he's white. Now, again, maybe you're able to say that
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to people who are black or brown when it comes to homosexuality and stuff, because
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again, I don't know which marginalization has more value on the left. It seems to change
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on a case-by-case basis. But that's what it is. Like, you're allowed to be, you're allowed to say
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that kind of stuff against white people who are not from here. You're allowed to say that stuff,
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especially against Russians. You're allowed to say that stuff about Christians, because that's just
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how it goes on the left. You're allowed to be condescending towards these people because
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they don't have the same kind of value points because they are not seen as oppressed as the
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people, as the gay people whose rainbow flag, you know, becomes the logo of every major company in the
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world for at least a month every year. Just very, very upset and angry about this. And, you know,
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good for this hockey player. Good for this hockey player for staying strong. It will blow over. Like,
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you know, I can't even remember the name of the baseball player who decided not to participate in
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Pride Night, whatever it was that the MLB did last year. And so he just needs to stand strong. I hope
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that he doesn't back down. He doesn't really seem like he would. He had a good response to the media
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who was making such such a huge deal about this. You know what? Y'all are going to have to get over
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it. Y'all are going to have to get over it. There are still millions and millions of people. Actually,
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the vast majority of people around the world still believe that marriage between a man and a woman is
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different than any other union. The vast majority of people in the world do not believe that a man can
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become a woman or a woman can become a man. OK, the vast majority of people in the world, not just
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throughout history, but today still believe that. So y'all are going to have to get over it. Get over
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yourselves. We're not going to celebrate you. Just we're not going to celebrate all of everyone's
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choices just because you want us to. And just because you threaten to punish us if we don't. No, I
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promise we will actually dig our heels in more. So good for this NHL player and everyone can just
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stay mad. All right, before we get into our next story, which is a very like dark story, and I'm
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going to try to stay not too much like in the details and weeds of it because it's just it's it's
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so much. Let's let's add some levity. Let's add some levity to our episode today. Once again, I guess all
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the levity segments that we have are about fashion. I'm not a fashion gal, but I guess I like looking at
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the trends and stuff. And so we are going to look at what is apparently according to the trendspotter.net.
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I don't know. Is that a like an authoritative source? Maybe so. This is these are the trends.
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These are the trends that are heading our way or have headed our way. And I am going to tell you
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whether I approve or not. And you can also leave a comment on YouTube to tell me if you do. All right,
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let's look at trend number one, black cutout tops. Okay, no, I don't like these. I can't even tell
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what the second one is. No, I don't like cutout tops. I feel like that was something maybe like
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in the early 2000s, and it's making its way back. I don't think it's cute. All right, next one.
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Okay, second one corset belts. These are like the big thick belts that look like the bottom of a corset
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that people are wearing is belts. Again, I would say no, I feel like this is kind of a variation of
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a trend member when we were all wearing like we'd just be wearing a normal shirt. And then bam,
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we would put like a thick leather belt around our shirt. For no reason, like we'd be wearing elastic
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gauchos that don't require like, there is nothing that the belt was holding up at all. I guess it was
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to like accentuate our waist or something like that. But we would be putting these like thick leather
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or stretchy belts, like around our around our shirt for absolutely no reason as we like
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pulled our tank top down below our hip bones. So no, but I think a lot of fashion trends aren't
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really supposed to be cute. They're just supposed to I don't know, make a statement. So I'm gonna I'm
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gonna go with no on this one. All right, next one. And these are lace up flats. Again, not that long
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ago that people were lacing up their sandals, like all the way to the top, they were gladiator sandals.
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The one on the on my right is not too bad. I can't really see it that well. Yeah, I again, I don't
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really see any like, point to this. And they're not just they're not sandals. They're actually flats
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lace up all the way. Can you imagine how long it would take you? These definitely do not pass like
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my airport rules. All right, next one. Color blocking. Sure, why not? The middle one triggers
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me because they look like Ukraine flag colors. But I guess that's just wearing like solid bright
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colors together that don't necessarily match but go together in some way. Sure. Next one. Are we
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looking at pop color suits? Yes. Sure, I have one. It's hot pink. Sure, I like pop color suits. Okay,
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next one. Ostrich feathers. I'm guessing they're fake ostrich feathers. Sure. Head to toe denim. No,
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I've never liked this trend. I did do denim on denim a little bit in college. And then I just
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stopped. What's it called? Canadian tuxedo? Yeah. No, I don't really like it. All right. So just
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wanted to give a little, you know, fashion insight from yours truly. All right, let's go into this dark
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story that I first heard about a few months ago, when these people got arrested. But now there is an
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investigative series that is being published by Mia Cthell. And she works for Town Hall. And she's done
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this amazing expose on what happened with this couple. The couple is from Georgia. It's a gay
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couple, William Dale Zillock Jr. and Zachary Jacob Zillock. So I guess under the law, they were
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considered married. They're accused. And I'm just going to let you know, like, I've got to say some
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dark stuff. I am going to stay out of the deep, dark details of all of this, because I don't even I
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don't think it's necessary. But I do need to tell you what they are being accused of to tell you just how
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awful this is. So know that I'm going to say some really dark and disturbing and terrible, terrible
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things that are going to break your heart and make you sick to your stomach. But I am leaving out
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actually the darkest details of what these two evil, evil people did to the son that they adopted.
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So they are accused of sodomizing their two adopted sons, young sons, distributing homemade
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pornography of the abuse, which we refer to as child sex abuse material, and pimping out their
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sons to nearby pedophiles in Atlanta area suburbs. They have been indicted by a grand jury on charges
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of incest, aggravated sodomy, aggravated child molestation, felony sexual exploitation of children
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and felony prostitution of a minor. They are facing over nine life sentences and have pleaded not guilty.
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The men adopted the boys through a Christian special needs adoption agency. Okay, let me just
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pause there. The men adopted the boys through a Christian special needs adoption agency. The adoption
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requests of the couple were accepted quickly by the relevant institution. And we are seeing right now,
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as I'm recording this, that Mia has published the third part in her four part series. So she has
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two parts that she published this week, and then she has the third part in this four part series that she published
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today. So let me back up. Let me summarize the first part of her investigative series. So a month's long town
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hall investigation reveals disturbing new details about an affluent LGBTQ activist couple accused of sodomizing
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their young adopted sons now ages nine and 11 and distributing this material for money to
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two other people. There were recorded jailhouse calls, a trove of never before seen court documents
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and testimony from a family member who spoke exclusively to town hall that uncovered the extent of the
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physical and emotional trauma that these two young brothers endured, as well as the red flags that the
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state overlooked during the same sex couples faster than expected adoption process. So if you look at these
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two, um, if you look at these two men and their social media posts, they very much were LGBTQ
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activists. They were going to the pride parades. They were taking pictures in front of the human rights
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campaign building. They were constantly posting about how important it is to celebrate pride, to
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celebrate homosexuality, to celebrate people's identity. And of course, painting themselves as these
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kind, accepting men who just want to live normal lives and just want to become fathers. The adopted
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father's 33-year-old government worker, no surprise there, William Dale Zulock Jr. and 35-year-old banker
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Zachary Jacobi Zulock, who was previously accused of raping a child, actually. They're from Oxford,
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Georgia. And as I said, they've been indicted facing over nine life sentences. They indicate that the
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child abuse, um, in this case stretches back to as early as late 2019 intensified in January, 2021,
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March, 2021, and December, 2021. And so we are talking about, um, anal rape. We are talking about,
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um, what they call oral copulation and forcing these boys to engage in all kinds of sex acts and actually
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not just making videos of them, but distributing them on Snapchat, going on gay dating apps like
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Grindr and, um, trying to get men to come and have sex or rape rather, um, their young sons. And it was
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actually a man who they were sending these videos to who snitched on this couple, um, because he had all
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of this now sex abuse material on his various devices and that tipped law enforcement. And this
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guy ended up telling law enforcement that, Hey, uh, this couple is producing this kind of child sex
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abuse material with their sons, the indicts, uh, adopted sons. The indictment also charges the Zulock
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co-defendants with soliciting two other men through the use of popular social media platforms, um, to perform
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an act of prostitution. A list of the state's evidence includes 149 images collected at the
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Zulock home, two flash drives containing Zachary and, um, another man, the man that ended up snitching
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on them. His last name is lawless, which there's some irony there. Um, sexual assault nurse examination
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results from the children's medical forensic exams. One of the boys sustained serious injuries from being
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raped by his adopted father, uh, which gathered DNA evidence such as bodily fluids and documented
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injuries, a text message from lawless, a Snapchat letter, two written letters from the older Zulock
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child and a disc containing a data dump, um, from another man who was, um, trying to, I guess a friend
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of the couple trying to rape these boys. Um, his last name was Viscaro Sanchez, his iPad and iPhone.
00:26:27.380
And so there was a relative that spoke to town hall who, um, agreed to give town hall, um, the phone
00:26:38.540
conversations, recorded phone conversations between him and between these men, um, while they were in
00:26:46.140
prison. And this relative is talking to one of the men, Zachary, trying to understand why did you do
00:26:52.340
this? What's really going on? And the guy's like, well, you know, not everything, not everything is
00:26:57.700
totally accurate. A lot of is accurate. Not everything is accurate. The relative tries to
00:27:02.400
try to understand how he's feeling. Are you worried about the boys? Are you concerned about where
00:27:08.600
they are? And he immediately dismisses that and says, well, you know, we've still got a lot of
00:27:13.500
subscriptions that are live, like, um, our Amazon prime subscription, and we're still paying that.
00:27:19.560
We're still paying our Disney plus subscription. We've got the house payments. So all of those
00:27:23.460
things are, you know, really going to pile up. So he was really concerned about the money. He's
00:27:30.040
really concerned in these conversations, um, about himself. He's not concerned at all about the
00:27:35.560
wellbeing of the boys, obviously, uh, because they adopted these boys in order to sexually assault
00:27:42.520
them and to prostitute them, to make money off of them. They bought these boys being the pedophiles
00:27:48.420
that they are knowing that these boys having special needs are going to be very vulnerable
00:27:52.740
and are obviously very small, very young, very excited to finally be accepted somewhere to
00:27:59.320
finally be out of the system and to have people that they actually belong to. Um, and they knew
00:28:06.200
that they were going to be able to take advantage of them physically, mentally, emotionally, there
00:28:11.180
were reports of other kinds of abuse, that there was other kinds of physical abuse, that they would
00:28:15.000
slap the boys, that they would make the boys stand in the corner for eight hours without moving, um,
00:28:22.120
for punishment. And so these are sick, sick men. These are sick men who only care about themselves.
00:28:29.120
Even in all of these jailhouse calls, all they can talk about is how they are affected, how this has
00:28:34.720
been really hard on them, how this is going to be hard for them financially. They don't care about
00:28:38.740
anyone. They are narcissists. They are abusers. They are pedophiles. And the charges and the details
00:28:46.100
that are uncovered in this investigation are some of the worst things that you are, have ever read
00:28:51.900
about in your life. What they physically and sexually did to these boys. I mean, it is enough to just
00:28:57.500
make you want to scream. Repeated rape, repeated assault. And as Katie Fowl says, and look, this is going
00:29:07.120
to be controversial to say, but she's been on the show several times. She's a child safety and
00:29:12.320
wellbeing expert. She's written books about this. Statistically, the most dangerous person to a
00:29:17.640
child's life is a non-blood relative male living at home. So think mom's boyfriend, even the stepdad.
00:29:25.200
I'm not saying there aren't amazing stepdads out there. I'm not saying there aren't terrible
00:29:29.780
biological dads or that there aren't terrible biological moms or stepmoms. I'm not saying that. I'm looking at
00:29:34.860
the statistics and the statistics say that the most dangerous people to a child, the people most likely
00:29:42.280
to harm a child in the home is the non-blood related male in the home. These boys lived with two,
00:29:52.200
two non-blood related men in the home. And so they were always more likely to abuse and exploit these
00:30:02.320
boys. And they obviously had prior perversions and prior plans to adopting these boys. And yet
00:30:09.800
they were still unable to do so. I do not believe that two men should, I don't believe that men should
00:30:18.080
be able to adopt kids. I don't, I don't. I think it is too risky. And look, that's hard to say because
00:30:25.700
I know there are a lot of great men out there who would be great dads, but I don't believe that a
00:30:31.100
single man. I don't believe that a single man should be able to. I don't believe that two men
00:30:37.400
should be able to. I just don't. I think that there is a reason why we have moms and dads. And
00:30:44.280
yes, I know moms and dads can abuse. Like I know that that puts kids that can put kids in vulnerable
00:30:49.860
situations too. But if we're looking at the data and we're looking at the statistics, kids are more
00:30:56.980
likely to be abused, even sexually abused by the non-related male in their home. So shouldn't we
00:31:05.420
be caring more about child wellbeing than we should about looking inclusive and looking tolerant? But
00:31:13.320
of course we know, we know that society doesn't actually care more about child safety and child
00:31:18.440
wellbeing. Let me just say again, kids need a mother and a father. They need a mother and a father and
00:31:24.040
all of our policies and all of our efforts should be toward the safety, the wellbeing, and the
00:31:31.060
protection of kids to put them in a home with a loving mother and father. Let's look at this
00:31:37.020
Christian adoption, this Christian adoption agency that apparently expedited this process and allowed
00:31:44.120
this to happen. All right. So let's look at this because this is honestly the most intriguing and
00:31:59.540
the saddest part to me that this was a Christian special needs adoption agency that allowed this
00:32:04.260
to happen. And I'm so glad that like, thank you, Mia at town hall for uncovering this and for talking
00:32:09.320
about this, maybe we can get her on to talk about this more, just incredible reporting. And wow, I hope
00:32:15.760
that reporting like this actually sparks change. And I hope that, I mean, if we're just hearing about
00:32:21.160
this, I guarantee you, there are more stories of this of all kinds of parents, by the way, who adopt kids
00:32:28.460
for the purpose of exploitation. Remember that little girl, there was a little three-year-old girl. She
00:32:35.020
might've been five by the time she was murdered, but there was this food network star, or she was
00:32:39.880
on a food network show a few years ago in South Carolina. She adopted this little white girl,
00:32:44.000
even as she is tweeting about like white privilege and how white privilege is terrible and how her
00:32:49.020
biological black kids have it, you know, so much worse than her adopted white kids. And she and her
00:32:53.540
husband ended up beating this child to death. And I'm not so sure they didn't adopt her for the purpose
00:32:59.340
of trying to abuse her and exploit her and use her as an example of evil white privilege.
00:33:04.180
And so like, what are we, what are we doing with our adoption system, man? All right, let's talk
00:33:11.640
about this. So, um, Mia is reporting that, uh, seven years prior to the adoption, Zachary,
00:33:19.680
one of the men, one of the dads was accused of being a child rapist, but was never charged
00:33:26.080
more than a decade ago. There was a 2011 probe into Zachary's alleged pedophilic behavior when he was
00:33:32.480
accused of luring a 14 year old boy to a residence in Walton County, the same jurisdiction as today's
00:33:37.160
horrifying child sexual abuse case and having anal sex with the underage victim. So I don't like the
00:33:42.720
phrase having sex with when you're talking about a minor, it's rape. It's rape because kids can't
00:33:48.400
consent. I don't care if you say that the kid said, yes, the kid can't consent. You're an adult,
00:33:52.940
you had sex with a minor, that's rape. So he raped a minor. The minor was 14 years old,
00:33:58.480
but the 2011 child rape case was shut down and no charges were pursued against Zachary.
00:34:04.100
Interesting. Alcavie Judicial Circuit District Attorney Randy McGinley, who serves Walton County,
00:34:10.980
is now formally asked the Walton County Sheriff's Office to continue its previous probe because he
00:34:15.500
believes it was closed without a whole lot of investigation into it, which is sad. So how was
00:34:19.880
a previously accused child rapist able to adopt two children with his newly wedded husband?
00:34:26.420
Apparently with ease, Mia writes. In 2018, the Zula co-defendants adopted the two brothers through
00:34:31.840
All God's Children, Inc., a now defunct, interesting, private special needs adoption agency in Watkinsville,
00:34:39.300
Georgia. Wow. Which focused on children in the state who have waited the longest to be placed with
00:34:45.240
a family. So they just really, they just really went after the most vulnerable here.
00:34:51.300
All God's Children matched families with special needs children considered more difficult to place
00:34:55.560
because they are older, need to be placed with their siblings, or have physical or mental or emotional
00:34:59.520
slash behavioral challenges. The brothers, now ages 9 and 11, already came from a broken home where
00:35:04.700
their biological parents were addicted to heroin, per a relative's knowledge. I do think they had
00:35:08.860
every intention, and this is why they adopted them for this purpose. Another family member,
00:35:13.180
who spoke exclusively with Town Hall, out of concern for the sibling pair's well-being, expressed.
00:35:19.240
Um, William and Zachary preyed on the children's vulnerability as kids raised by struggling heroin
00:35:25.260
addicts, Town Hall's family insider asserted. And then they've got pictures of them like with their
00:35:31.060
kids. Happy gotcha day three years ago. Absolutely disgusting. This was in 2018. As well as undergoing
00:35:38.340
criminal background checks, William and Zachary were required to attend mandatory pre-adoption
00:35:42.520
parenting classes called Parents as Tinder Healers. Trauma informs training curriculum to learn more about
00:35:48.420
parenting children with a history of losses. An agency caseworker also completed a family assessment,
00:35:53.500
which was presented to social workers throughout Georgia for matchmaking and a home study of the
00:35:57.520
Zulox. The entire undertaking took eight to 12 weeks. Wow. Those of you who have gone through the
00:36:02.620
adoption, the fostering process, you know, it takes typically takes a lot longer than that. Typically
00:36:07.260
seven months after the boys moved in in 2018, Georgia's courts made the forever family official on
00:36:13.980
November 7th, 2018. All God's Children, a former member agency of the Georgia Association of Licensed
00:36:21.400
Adoption Agencies, state, the statewide network had worked in partnership with the Georgia Department
00:36:26.820
of Family Services, which oversees the state's division of family and children services to find
00:36:32.060
families for Georgia's waiting children. Town Hall contacted Georgia DHS regarding how much oversight
00:36:38.060
and involvement it had in the agency's operations. They kind of got some standard canned answers.
00:36:42.940
Town Hall also asked if the 2011 case was ever officially brought up over the course of the
00:36:47.300
adoption process for this family and if the alleged incident ever appeared during Zachary's criminal
00:36:53.280
records check when the co-defendant applied to become an adoptive parent. DFCS child welfare and
00:36:59.320
CBS records are confidential under state law. The spokesperson replied, as such, we are unable to comment on the
00:37:04.620
specifics of any child welfare abuse slash neglect cases nor confirm or deny the existence of related
00:37:10.360
records. As for how involved Georgia DFCS was in the agency's background checks, family placement,
00:37:17.440
and home visits, Winton said all families are required to undergo background checks, including
00:37:21.340
fingerprint-based checks of state and national crime information, databases, and checks of child
00:37:26.160
abuse in the GALAX registries, whether they are working with the child placing agency or DFCS.
00:37:32.260
Um, everything seemed fine. I actually thought DFCS would be more scrutinizing with them because they
00:37:38.160
were a same-sex couple, the Zuloc family inside her town hall. However, it seemed like they passed
00:37:43.160
everything with flying colors. What is a Christian agency doing allowing two gay men to adopt kids?
00:37:52.260
Like, I understand that the secular adoption agencies want to, I understand that. What's a Christian
00:38:00.040
adoption agency who says that they believe in the Bible that God created us male and female,
00:38:08.220
that he created marriage to be between a man and a woman. Why are they even allowing two men to adopt
00:38:14.280
children at all? I mean, if they would have just stuck to the Bible, if they just would have abided by God's
00:38:21.480
word, this case would have been avoided. The adoption process is moving faster than expected,
00:38:28.700
exclaimed the Facebook event page for William and Zachary's adoption shower, which was held at their
00:38:33.360
Snellville house in March, 2018, before their mansion in Oxford, Georgia was built, which is
00:38:41.760
interesting. They apparently got a lot of money, um, somewhere in there. The domestic nonprofit dissolved
00:38:48.640
in October, 2022, according to the Georgia corporate corporations division, the family member
00:38:53.540
who was given access to Zachary social media account saw that he had privately discussed on the
00:38:57.100
Instagram. It's impending dissolution with all God's children, ex executive director, Emily Carol
00:39:01.880
Bailey, when he was going to refer someone to, to y'all on the website. Unfortunately, we had to close.
00:39:09.860
Um, the ex director said, we are still trying to decide if we want to try and adopt a girl.
00:39:21.740
Zachary told this ex director, we are doing awesome. The boys have changed so much from when we first met
00:39:26.380
them. They aren't even the same kids. I would say, because you've been raping them every day for the
00:39:30.940
past few years, and you've been pimping them out to your friends on Grindr. I would say that they've
00:39:36.920
probably changed. Yeah. And you wanted to adopt a girl to do the same thing. You fricking evil people.
00:39:43.940
I mean, I don't think I've ever seen anything more evil. I just want to personally thank you.
00:39:50.640
He says that his message and everyone who was involved in our process, the boys truly changed
00:39:53.900
our lives. The ex director of this Christian adoption agency says, it makes me so happy to hear
00:39:58.880
this. So glad you and the boys are thriving. Zachary then asked Bailey for a personal recommendation
00:40:04.420
on another adoption agency to which Bailey recommended two agencies open to same sex
00:40:09.280
families, Bethany Christian services, Bethany Christian services. Now's your chance. The most
00:40:15.880
influential and largest conservative Christian adoption agency in America. The church is doing
00:40:22.020
well, y'all. And Chris 180, the first and largest nonprofit organization in Georgia to openly
00:40:28.760
celebrate and serve LGBTQ plus. You think so much, Emily. Zachary messaged, pinging a heart reaction.
00:40:38.460
Flash forward to this past summer, the country's DFCS office was notified about the need for
00:40:43.920
emergency protective placement for two young children and joined Athens-Clarke County sexual
00:40:48.820
assault nurse examiners program advocates who provided forensic medical attention to the abused
00:40:54.020
Zoolock boys in the midnight July rescue option or operation at the family's mansion. Both boys were
00:41:00.420
placed in DFCS custody. They made us give our give us give up our parental rights on August 1st.
00:41:06.880
William, who signed over custody of the children to the state at an August hearing said in a recorded
00:41:11.100
jail house call shared with town hall. I really don't want them to go back into foster care because
00:41:17.200
they don't deserve that. My gosh. I mean, these are just sociopaths, absolute sociopaths.
00:41:24.600
So sad. I mean, listen to this. Zachary had lambasted the children's former foster parents in
00:41:29.560
a private messenger chat from July 2020 with Facebook friend. And yes, a lot of kids are
00:41:33.840
sexually abused, especially in foster care. He said some people only foster for the money and don't
00:41:38.340
give an SHIT about the kids. The boys foster parents were not bad people. However, they only did
00:41:43.360
it for the money. I mean, what an absolute psychopath. What an absolute sociopath. Again,
00:41:49.520
if like this is just a story that we're hearing about, how often does this happen? Like how often
00:41:54.640
are people adopting kids for the money? How often are background checks just not even looked into for
00:41:59.660
anyone for any kind of couple, but especially for the couple that an adoption agency can hoist up and
00:42:05.260
say, look how inclusive and look how tolerant and look how diverse we are. I mean, this is scary stuff.
00:42:11.040
These poor kids. And I just, I mean, this is just one of those things where I just had to wonder
00:42:16.700
like, why God, why would you let this happen to these poor children? Why? It makes me so sad. I
00:42:23.400
mean, there are all different kinds of messages where these men are pretending to be these great dads.
00:42:29.520
And, um, he posted at one point in 2018, Zachary said, all kids deserve a loving and a safe home.
00:42:36.040
And so they're basically just paying, um, you know, they're playing these, these characters
00:42:42.000
and they want people to think that they're good people and they're not. He's criticized conservatives
00:42:46.780
in the past, of course, on social media for being anti-gay. Um, he said, I'm not sure if the adoption
00:42:54.600
agency that William and I use would have stopped us because we are gay for the longest time that never
00:42:59.220
even crossed my mind. If we had not been allowed to adopt the boys, that's taking our rights away.
00:43:03.440
What about all the LGBTQ couples out there that have been stopped from adopting? What about
00:43:08.240
their rights? What about children's rights? What about children's rights? What about children's
00:43:13.880
rights to an actually safe and loving home? What about a children's right to a mom and a dad
00:43:18.160
who are also loving and safe? Because I understand any kind of person, of course, can be abusive, but
00:43:25.280
kids deserve a safe and loving home. Yes. With a mother and a father, kids should not be placed.
00:43:31.480
Vulnerable kids should not be placed with either a single dad or two men. You shouldn't. I'm sorry.
00:43:37.280
Statistically, it is just too risky. And maybe it's time we start actually caring about the well-being
00:43:42.620
of children instead of just trying to look tolerant and inclusive and the world's definition of loving
00:43:48.600
because it can lead to some really, really bad outcomes. Now here's my hot take, although I've
00:43:56.420
probably said a couple already. Child sex abuse, especially serial child sex abuse, the prostitution
00:44:04.880
of children, the creating material of sexually abusing children. I mean, these are babies,
00:44:11.560
nine and 11 years. Are you kidding me? You deserve the death penalty. You do. You deserve the death penalty.
00:44:20.060
And most people, when I posted about this on Twitter, agree with me. Some people, oh no,
00:44:26.700
you know, they just, they deserve to just go in general population and general population prison.
00:44:31.060
They'll take care of it. Those prisoners will, we'll get them. First of all, I think that's a myth.
00:44:35.900
The whole like prison justice thing that there are all these like virtual prisoners or virtuous
00:44:41.200
prisoners in general population that are like looking for pedophiles in order to like punish or beat up
00:44:48.280
or kill or whatever. Like, I I'm sorry. I don't like think that that is actually what is going on.
00:44:54.820
I don't think that that's actually happening. Um, and that's not justice by the way, that's not
00:45:00.040
justice. Like if you want to look at biblical justice, I don't think that is actually justice.
00:45:04.920
The kind of like vigilante, non-systematic kind of just like beating someone up in prison. I don't
00:45:11.800
think that's justice. No, I want the state to do it. Romans 13 says that the state is supposed to be
00:45:17.440
the administrator of justice, that the state bears the sword. So actually you're not more compassionate
00:45:22.640
or not more just than me for saying that you hope that they get beat up or raped or something
00:45:27.260
in general population. No, I am actually more compassionate even and more in line with biblical
00:45:33.660
justice by saying that these child rapists deserve the death penalty. And the other pushback that I
00:45:39.000
get as well, everyone deserves a shot at redemption. Okay, look, they get killed tomorrow. They got 24
00:45:44.720
hours. All right. Someone can come preach the gospel to them and God can do anything. If God wants to
00:45:49.940
turn their hearts and save their souls, then I believe that God can do that. I do believe that
00:45:54.240
God can save anyone. I absolutely do. And if he wants to, he can do that tomorrow. God doesn't need,
00:46:01.180
oh, well, I need 25 more years. I need 30 more years. Look, God is going to save who he is going to
00:46:07.660
save. We were chosen in him before the foundations of the world, Ephesians 1, 5. And if these guys are not
00:46:13.200
chosen, they're going to hell. It's either tomorrow or it's in 25 years. I don't believe that taxpayers
00:46:18.780
should be subsidizing their absolutely worthless, evil lives at this point after they serially raped
00:46:25.400
two little boys that they adopted from a special needs agency. They need to be executed by the state
00:46:31.140
of Georgia tomorrow. That's justice in this case, nothing less. Now, am I glad that they are going to
00:46:40.380
have life sentences and that they're never going to really be able to see the light of day? Yeah,
00:46:47.960
I'm glad. But I think that we would really probably be able to deter the pedophile situation
00:46:57.140
of people producing child sex abuse material and sexually abusing children if we had swift and sure
00:47:05.800
after due process, of course, after due process execution of child sex abusers.
00:47:16.560
I think that we would solve that problem real quick. We'd probably very quickly diminish or solve
00:47:23.940
the problem of sex trafficking. I think that is a very, very proportionate and even compassionate
00:47:31.600
punishment for sexually abusing a child. You sexually abuse a child and it's proven. It is proven with
00:47:38.740
evidence. And you have a fair and speedy trial. I believe that if you sexually abuse a child and it is proven
00:47:50.320
you forfeit your right to life. Period. I think that is justice in this situation and nothing less. And
00:48:01.120
maybe God can save them before that. God can work miracles. He can do anything. And he don't need
00:48:09.640
30 years of us of taxpayers in Georgia paying for those people to eat and sleep and stay alive.
00:48:31.120
All right. That's all we got for today. A fiery ending for our week. You know, we always keep you
00:48:36.580
on your toes. We had a lot of different, we had a lot of different conversations this week. We got
00:48:40.720
some lighthearted stuff. Yesterday was totally non-political. Even Tuesday was a little non-political.
00:48:45.940
I mean, relatable is kind of like music. Okay. I don't want to drag you down every day. I mean,
00:48:50.320
I could talk about terrible, sad, dark stories every single day, but I don't know if that's good for
00:48:54.840
any of us. So sometimes like yesterday have to lift us up and remind us of what is eternal and
00:49:01.180
true and the things that we can do that's right in front of us. And sometimes we really do have
00:49:04.680
to be reminded of the evil and the wickedness, the depravity that exists in the world. And look,
00:49:08.980
read Psalm 37. Jesus is going to take care of wickedness. He's not just doing nothing. And even
00:49:15.180
when I find myself asking like, why does this happen? Why is this happening? How could God allow
00:49:21.020
this to happen? He's a good God. He's an all powerful God. He could stop anything that he wants
00:49:24.820
to. I wouldn't let something like that happen to my children. Like, why would he allow that to
00:49:30.140
happen to children that he has created? I just have to trust in a way that it's like sometimes
00:49:34.460
very difficult that he's not doing nothing, that his wrath is actually being stored up. And Psalm 37
00:49:41.700
says this, fret not yourself because of evildoers and be not envious of wrongdoers for they will soon
00:49:46.780
wither like the fade, like the grass and wither like the green herb. Verse 10, in just a little
00:49:53.220
while, the wicked will be no more. Though you look carefully at his place, he will not be there, but
00:49:57.980
the meek shall inherit the land and delight themselves in abundant peace. The wicked plots
00:50:02.300
against the righteous and gnashes his teeth at him, but the Lord laughs at the wicked for he sees that
00:50:07.380
his day is coming. The wicked will perish. The enemies of the Lord are like the glory of the
00:50:11.860
pastures. They vanish like smoke. They vanish away. Turn from evil and do good. So shall you
00:50:18.360
dwell forever for the Lord loves justice. He will not forsake his saints. So that's what we can trust
00:50:26.120
in. The wicked will one day be no more. One day Jesus will do away with all of it. There will be no
00:50:30.720
more abuse. There will be no more exploitation. There will be no more sickness or sorrow or sin.
00:50:38.040
Then Jesus will do away with all of it. And we will live in perfect peace if indeed we are in him.
00:50:46.580
And if you want to know more about that, you should read Ephesians 2. Be made alive in Christ and
00:50:53.160
have your hope in the victory. That is sure. All right. That's all we've got time for this week.