Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 755 ｜ Revival at Asbury University？

00:00:00.000 Students at Asbury University in Kentucky are leading what has been called a revival.

00:00:05.000 So what in the world is happening there?

00:00:07.260 And what are some things that we should think about when it comes to revival?

00:00:12.540 We'll also be reacting to Chelsea Handler, some clips that have been circulating where

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00:00:29.740 depression and thoughts of suicide at higher rates than we've ever seen before.

00:00:33.500 Why is that?

00:00:34.260 I'll give you my answer.

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00:01:51.060 Today, we are going to talk about this Asbury revival.

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00:02:27.900 Let's get into this Asbury revival.

00:02:30.400 So many of you have been messaging me and asking me what I think about this and to talk

00:02:35.100 about this on my show.

00:02:36.440 So we're going to talk about it today.

00:02:38.000 We're not going to be able to get into every angle of this.

00:02:40.640 There are so many different testimonies.

00:02:43.060 Some of them are competing testimonies about what's going on, different perspectives, so

00:02:47.640 many different people there, students, professors, notable pastors, theologians, things like

00:02:53.440 that who are there to observe.

00:02:54.900 And everyone's kind of got a different take on it.

00:02:57.080 I don't have time to give you all of those different perspectives, but I'll kind of give

00:03:01.400 you a rundown of what's happening, a few of those perspectives.

00:03:04.620 And then I'll just kind of give my encouragement and also some, let's see, I don't want to say

00:03:13.060 words of caution, but just some things to consider and things to think about for the students

00:03:19.000 who are there, because I know they're Asbury University students who listen to this podcast.

00:03:24.960 And I just want to make sure that I am encouraging you as much as possible in what I know is a

00:03:32.160 really exciting time at your university.

00:03:34.320 So for those of you who don't know, Asbury is a private Christian university in Wilmer,

00:03:38.420 Kentucky.

00:03:38.700 It's got a Methodist background, and it has actually experienced revival quite a few times

00:03:45.340 throughout its history.

00:03:46.140 So this is not really necessarily anything new.

00:03:48.880 Apparently, previous revivals have occurred in 1905, 1908, 1921, 1950, 1958, 1970, 1992, 2006.

00:03:58.720 And how they're kind of defining revival is that students are engaging in what is almost like

00:04:07.060 like a filibuster style confession in preaching, sharing the gospel, singing, worshiping, and

00:04:15.980 things like that.

00:04:17.160 And this particular revival, as they are describing it, happened after a Wednesday, February 8th

00:04:25.300 sermon by speaker, Reverend Zach Meerkreeps.

00:04:30.840 And he is the Envisioned Leadership Coordinator at the Christian and Missionary Alliance.

00:04:36.220 And he spoke on Romans 12, 13 through 14.

00:04:39.980 And he simply talked about loving other people because God loves us.

00:04:46.320 And we have love because Christ loved us and gave himself up for us.

00:04:54.060 And so that's how we show love to other people.

00:04:58.320 And so I listened to some of this sermon, and I got a rundown of it.

00:05:02.080 It was a good sermon.

00:05:03.560 I have to say, I didn't know that this would be a sermon.

00:05:07.500 If I were just listening to it, I wouldn't necessarily say, like, this is the sermon to

00:05:12.140 kick off some kind of revival.

00:05:14.760 There wasn't some kind of call to repentance that happened there.

00:05:19.040 There wasn't an explicit sharing of the gospel.

00:05:22.640 Nevertheless, it does seem from the testimonies that I'm getting and the things that I'm

00:05:27.460 seeing that the Holy Spirit is at work there and that people are feeling moved to believe

00:05:34.920 the gospel, to confess their sins, and to worship the Lord.

00:05:39.000 And for that, I praise God.

00:05:40.980 And I just want to play you a little clip that we have of what it looks like there.

00:05:45.760 I mean, that's beautiful.

00:06:06.880 It gives me the chills, honestly.

00:06:08.400 If you're just listening to this, this is the entire auditorium at Asbury University

00:06:14.140 completely filled.

00:06:15.560 You see it not just with students, but with people of all kinds, people of all ages.

00:06:19.520 They've got students from other campuses or other universities coming in.

00:06:23.620 You've got people traveling all over, basically doing some kind of pilgrimage just to see what's

00:06:27.860 going on in Asbury.

00:06:29.320 And as I said, you've got a lot of kind of social media influencers, but you've also got

00:06:33.460 a lot of pastors that are going there.

00:06:35.720 They're praying with students.

00:06:37.020 They're sharing the gospel with students because as beautiful as this is, I mean, that was

00:06:42.120 just a magnificent worship service and every Christian in the world is celebrating and

00:06:46.380 praising God.

00:06:47.100 Whenever we see saints come together and worship the Lord in just such a simple and beautiful

00:06:52.000 way, everyone wants to make sure that the Bible is being preached and that the gospel

00:06:56.980 is being preached.

00:06:57.820 And so you have a lot of teachers showing up to make sure that students have people to

00:07:01.440 talk to, that they're pointed in the right direction, that they're pointed to scripture

00:07:05.300 and things like that.

00:07:06.500 Because, of course, things that are called revivals sometimes, sometimes are just emotional

00:07:12.640 experiences or even spiritual experiences where things kind of catch on like an emotional

00:07:17.540 contagion and students feel like they have to be a part of it just because their friends

00:07:21.700 are a part of it.

00:07:22.340 And that's not necessarily any kind of revival.

00:07:25.600 You're not seeing true heart change.

00:07:26.960 You're not seeing true conversion or even true worship.

00:07:29.220 And so what we're seeing here, though, is a lot of people reporting that truth is absolutely

00:07:34.940 being shared and that they absolutely feel like God has authored this days-long worship

00:07:45.840 service there and that there is true repentance, true confession, true fellowship, true Holy Spirit-inspired

00:07:53.900 evangelism and preaching happening there.

00:07:57.080 And for that, I am so thankful.

00:08:00.560 There was a theology professor who wrote an article for Christianity Today.

00:08:07.500 He's a theology professor at Asbury University.

00:08:10.600 And he says that he has seen in his career, in his life, efforts to manufacture revivals, movements

00:08:18.340 of the Spirit that are not only hollow but also harmful.

00:08:22.260 He says, I don't want anything to do with that.

00:08:24.680 But he says, truth be told, this is nothing like that.

00:08:27.360 There is no pressure or hype.

00:08:28.660 There is no manipulation.

00:08:30.140 There is no high-pitched emotional fervor.

00:08:32.320 That is comforting to me.

00:08:34.260 Like, I'll be honest, I'm not someone who comes from some kind of any kind of charismatic

00:08:38.920 background at all.

00:08:40.380 I am Southern Baptist.

00:08:41.380 And there were a lot of Baptist revivals in the 70s and 80s.

00:08:44.500 But the kind of church that I grew up in, the kind of worship that I saw and was a part

00:08:47.880 of, it just wasn't hyper emotional.

00:08:50.040 I really wasn't like that.

00:08:52.360 And I do tend to kind of approach these things with a little bit more skepticism.

00:08:58.660 That doesn't mean criticism or anger.

00:09:00.500 It just means a little bit more of a questioning spirit than to simply say, yes, this is 100%

00:09:11.500 genuine.

00:09:11.860 And so as I have seen testimonies come out from students, from theology professors like

00:09:17.140 this one, and from pastors and people that I trust going there and saying, yes, good work

00:09:23.460 is happening here.

00:09:24.760 Evangelism is happening here.

00:09:26.280 I have been much more comforted and much more excited about what is going on there.

00:09:31.280 I mean, praise God.

00:09:33.140 Praise God that this can be an example, not just for the student body there and not just

00:09:37.780 for the people who are close by to Asbury, but really because of social media and because

00:09:43.080 this is being amplified, this could really be an example for the country.

00:09:46.700 So what God is doing there, who knows how this is going to multiply into something that

00:09:52.640 can be widespread.

00:09:55.480 And so there are a few outlets covering this, talking about how the worship services have

00:10:02.000 gone on and on.

00:10:02.920 Apparently, this is something where students are going in in the morning and they're staying

00:10:08.380 all day.

00:10:09.360 Usually it's a little bit of a thinner crowd in the morning, and then it's a larger crowd

00:10:13.900 during the afternoon.

00:10:15.340 And it's basically just worshiping, people singing, people going on stage and sharing

00:10:20.640 their testimony, people forgiving one another, confessing sins to one another, and things like

00:10:28.120 that.

00:10:28.340 This is according to CBN News.

00:10:30.020 Last Friday, Lee University campus pastor Rob Fultz noted on Twitter, what's happening

00:10:33.980 at Asbury is not and will not remain confined.

00:10:36.860 It will and already is awakening the deep wells of revival on campuses across the nation.

00:10:41.180 They have been churning, pressing against the seals that have kept them hidden, and they

00:10:45.520 are about to burst with new life.

00:10:50.140 Now, as I said, I am not a charismatic, and I don't think that every part of charismatic

00:10:57.680 theology is wrong or bad.

00:10:59.460 In fact, I think that there's a lot to learn from it.

00:11:02.540 I think sometimes in our kind of reformed circles, we can denigrate the Holy Spirit or

00:11:09.720 we can belittle the equality of the Holy Spirit with the Father and Son.

00:11:15.500 And so I think that there are things to appreciate about charismatic theology.

00:11:20.060 However, I do think it is right in some ways to be skeptical about some forms of not just charismatic

00:11:28.740 theology, but also charismatic worship and how it does emphasize the emotional and the

00:11:35.300 experiential and the subjective rather than the objective word of God.

00:11:41.040 And so I do think that just judging from what some people have said who are attending there, that that is some of what's going on.

00:11:50.700 There's going to be competing in these cases, in some cases competing doctrine, competing denominational beliefs, competing styles and things like that.

00:12:00.900 I am not at all hating on what's happening.

00:12:04.460 I think that any genuine worship, any genuine repentance, any genuine confession, any preaching of the gospel, any preaching of God's word will not return void and will glorify the Lord and can change other people's hearts, as I said, across the country.

00:12:19.460 But what I have seen and something that does kind of concern me here is that you do have the NAR types, which is the new apostolic reformation types who are hyper charismatic, who believe that basically that apostles are going to lead the church and that they have to lead the church into these kind of revivals in order to usher in the end times.

00:12:44.500 It is really not biblically based and there can be a lot of emotional manipulation involved in that.

00:12:51.800 I do worry about those types traveling to this revival and then taking advantage of what can be organic and genuine worship in an opportunistic way to try to either take credit for what's going on there, to gin up something that's not really happening, to make something that is God glorifying into something that is no longer biblical and is no longer sincere.

00:13:21.060 And so I think that you have that possibility when it comes to amazing experiences like this one, that unfortunately there will be wolves.

00:13:34.280 There will be people who try to prey upon those who are in a very vulnerable state, who are in a very malleable state and try to teach them things that simply aren't true.

00:13:44.580 And so I simply have prayers for these students and for the people there that are in a very vulnerable moment that the Lord would just protect them, that even in moments of intense vulnerability, that they would have wisdom, that they would be able to discern not just right from wrong, but right from almost right, that they would be able to stand on the word of God and that they wouldn't use their feelings as their guide, but that they would use scripture as their guide.

00:14:12.580 Because these experiences and even emotions and things like that are not bad.

00:14:18.600 It's not bad to feel those things and to even be overwhelmed by those things, but we just have to remember where we are getting our truth, where we are getting our guidance.

00:14:31.520 It's not guidance. It's not actually from our experiences and our feelings. It is actually from the word of God and the Holy Spirit.

00:14:39.800 This is another thing we have to remember that the Holy Spirit is not going to contradict the Bible.

00:14:45.040 You're not going to be led by God to do something that you cannot find in God's word.

00:14:49.700 You are not going to be moved towards something that opposes God's word.

00:14:55.060 And so we have to just make sure that we are aware of that.

00:14:58.300 And that's another thing that I'm seeing. I'm actually seeing some progressives who call themselves progressive Christians who don't believe that homosexuality is a sin, who believe that it is possible to be the opposite gender. 0.57

00:15:11.100 They are also going there and they have reported publicly that they are excited about what's happening because they believe that this is leading to some, quote unquote, like queer affirming movement at Asbury University.

00:15:24.960 That really confuses me. I will say I haven't seen that from anyone else.

00:15:28.640 That's not really like a big fear or source of anxiety for me when it comes to this, because, again, like if the gospel is really being preached and people are really relying on God's word,

00:15:38.380 then the fruit that it bears will be good fruit. It won't be rotten fruit. It won't be unbiblical fruit.

00:15:43.740 And if this is really a movement of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit will never convict people or move people to do something that opposes the word of God.

00:15:51.380 But as you can see, like anytime something is popular, anytime something is amplified on social media, anytime there is something good happening and the Lord is working,

00:16:04.120 anytime emotions are involved or young people are involved or malleable hearts are involved,

00:16:08.480 like there is always going to be an opportunity for manipulation and false teaching and things like that.

00:16:14.700 So I'm so excited about what the students are experiencing there.

00:16:18.100 I'm so excited about the worship. I'm so excited about the confession.

00:16:22.160 I'm so excited about the testimony sharing.

00:16:24.180 And I just hope and pray that this bears fruit for years and years and years.

00:16:27.600 And I hope it does spread like wildfire.

00:16:29.780 And I'm also praying for the protection of the people who are involved.

00:16:33.640 I am praying that only the truth would be shared.

00:16:35.860 I am praying that all deceit would be kept out.

00:16:39.080 I am praying that God's flock would be protected from wolves.

00:16:42.540 I am praying that people would stand strong, stand firm in their faith that is founded on Jesus and his word,

00:16:50.360 and that they are able to discern between what they feel and what they know is true.

00:16:57.700 We understand that the heart is deceitful.

00:17:00.260 It is wicked.

00:17:00.920 It is sick beyond comprehension.

00:17:03.360 And so we can't follow it.

00:17:04.660 And that's the good thing about Christians who are really revived, Christians who are really made new,

00:17:08.900 Christians who really do have the experiences of those that are being had at Asbury,

00:17:13.880 that we can have those experiences and we can feel those feelings.

00:17:17.480 But at the end of the day, we don't have to follow them.

00:17:20.420 And they are not necessarily indications of our holiness.

00:17:23.720 They're not necessarily indications of sincere conversion.

00:17:27.220 And that's just another thing that I want to say, too, is that for those who either went there and you're like,

00:17:32.160 man, I didn't feel all the things that other people are feeling.

00:17:34.760 Or for those who you're in, you're not there and you're looking at that and you're like,

00:17:39.200 well, I don't have those feelings.

00:17:42.700 Like, I don't even want to read my Bible.

00:17:44.500 I don't even want to sing.

00:17:45.700 I don't even want to go to church.

00:17:46.940 It's too hard to do those things right now.

00:17:48.320 I'm feeling stale.

00:17:49.840 Like, or I still am disciplined in those things, but I really just don't have the feelings that those people do.

00:17:55.900 Remember, those feelings are not an indication of your salvation or even your sanctification.

00:18:02.180 Like, our walking with the Lord doesn't always feel.

00:18:06.900 It doesn't always feel good.

00:18:08.300 It doesn't always feel easy.

00:18:09.720 It's not always this overwhelming sense of joy.

00:18:14.460 Sometimes it's really difficult.

00:18:15.900 Sometimes it is just walking one foot in front of the other.

00:18:20.840 And I just want you to know that that is just as genuine of Christianity.

00:18:25.080 And actually, sometimes there's a better indication of what your salvation and what your sanctification is and looks like than some of these emotional experiences.

00:18:35.040 Again, I'm not hating on those emotional experiences because I think that they can be really good.

00:18:39.880 God gave us our emotions.

00:18:41.620 However, I just want to encourage you that you always have access to quote unquote revival.

00:18:46.760 You always have access to the Holy Spirit as a Christian.

00:18:49.420 You always have access to God's presence as a Christian.

00:18:52.380 You always have access to God's love as a Christian.

00:18:55.520 You always have access to his wisdom.

00:18:57.700 You always have access to his direction.

00:18:59.800 You always have access to his prompting.

00:19:01.920 You have that as a Christian everywhere.

00:19:05.040 I heard Elisa Childers. 0.56

00:19:06.240 She visited and she said it was a very sweet kind of worship service when she was there that she didn't necessarily feel anything powerful,

00:19:15.860 but she didn't have any concerns about what was happening.

00:19:19.200 And I love how she kind of the phrase that she used to describe how some people erroneously think of these things.

00:19:26.760 And it's as a Holy Spirit hotspot that you have to go there in order to really feel the Holy Spirit or to be a part of the church or to be a part of something big.

00:19:35.580 And while it can be great to go there and encourage your fellow believers and to receive encouragement from them,

00:19:41.520 it is not necessary to have the Holy Spirit Christian.

00:19:46.680 Like if you are a Christian, you have been bought with a price. 0.99

00:19:50.480 You have been made new.

00:19:51.840 You are a new creation.

00:19:53.880 You are a part of Christ's body.

00:19:55.580 You are a part of Christ's church.

00:19:57.180 You are his son or his daughter. 0.67

00:19:58.860 You are his heir.

00:19:59.680 And he is just as much with you wherever you are in the depths of your loneliness or pain or whatever you are feeling as he is with those Asbury students.

00:20:11.280 The Holy Spirit is not thicker there.

00:20:13.820 He is not more focused there than he is on you.

00:20:18.120 I think that he's doing an amazing thing there.

00:20:20.980 But I just want to remind people that he is also with you.

00:20:25.520 And that is good news.

00:20:27.200 I think that there is a time and a place for what we are calling revivals.

00:20:31.300 There is a time and a place for this kind of collective relay or marathon, rather, of worship.

00:20:40.200 And I think it's wonderful.

00:20:41.140 I think it can be a light and a darkness.

00:20:42.960 But I don't want you to think that you are missing out or that you don't have access to what they have access to because you are not physically there.

00:20:52.060 God is with you.

00:20:53.200 You draw near to him.

00:20:54.280 He will draw near to you.

00:20:55.400 So that is his promise.

00:20:57.860 And isn't that amazing?

00:20:59.500 So we can look to our brothers and sisters, our friends at Asbury University, and say, thank you, Lord.

00:21:04.200 Thank you for what you're doing there.

00:21:05.760 Please protect them.

00:21:07.120 Please hold them close.

00:21:08.220 Please only allow truth to be shared.

00:21:10.800 Please let all lies just fade away.

00:21:13.360 Any opportunists, any wolves in sheep's clothing, anyone who is going to manipulate or misuse and abuse what is going on there.

00:21:22.380 Please protect them from all of that.

00:21:24.000 But also, Lord, thank you that you are not more present there than you are here with me right now.

00:21:29.180 Thank you, Lord, that you love me just as much.

00:21:31.640 You are with me just as much right now as I'm changing diapers, as I'm washing dishes, as I'm doing the mundane, as I'm sending emails from my marketing firm, whatever it is.

00:21:41.680 As you are with those students who are just as pleased with me as someone who has been purchased by the blood of Jesus, as you are with them.

00:21:49.740 Thank you for what you're doing there, Lord.

00:21:51.580 But please help me remember, maybe this is your prayer, that you are just as much here with me, that there is a revival in my own heart that is always accessible and is always possible.

00:22:04.560 And you can always access God through the truth of his word.

00:22:09.560 If you own a Bible, if you have the ability to pray, and if you are a Christian, then you are close to God.

00:22:17.800 So just remember that, that you are also playing a part in whatever God is doing, wherever you are.

00:22:23.000 If you are a Christian, simply doing the next right thing in faith. 0.75

00:22:34.560 Okay, so just a few things to consider.

00:22:39.920 Let's see, how many points do I have?

00:22:41.180 One, two, three, four short points.

00:22:44.100 Actually, I think it's three short points, and then I've got some scripture underneath it.

00:22:47.200 So just some things to consider.

00:22:49.280 One, revival, reinvigoration, conversion must have Bible-based truth.

00:22:54.040 Emotional experiences can come from confession and talking and singing.

00:22:57.320 But changed hearts, long-term fruit will come from the investment made by scripture and the gospel that is found in scripture.

00:23:05.640 So just consider that.

00:23:07.200 I know I've heard that you are hearing out there from the preachers and the teachers there.

00:23:11.280 Praise God.

00:23:12.620 Ignore anyone who brings you anything that you cannot find in the Bible.

00:23:16.580 The second one, there's nothing wrong, as I've said many times now, nothing wrong with emotions.

00:23:20.540 They've been given to us by God.

00:23:22.360 Normal to have them, especially in overwhelming spiritual experiences.

00:23:25.840 But they are not a guide.

00:23:27.460 They are not conclusive.

00:23:28.580 They are not the final say.

00:23:29.960 They are not an indication of truth.

00:23:31.480 They don't necessarily signify conversion.

00:23:34.040 Emotional and even spiritual experiences do not equal conversion.

00:23:39.140 So celebrate what's going on right now, absolutely, and make sure that there is a long-term investment also, not just in scripture reading, but also in discipleship and accountability.

00:23:50.080 And guard your doctrine closely.

00:23:52.380 Any experience involving emotion and vulnerability, as I've said, is fertile ground for manipulation and opportunists.

00:23:59.280 Emotion can be clarifying.

00:24:00.440 They can also be distracting.

00:24:01.840 They can blind us to truth.

00:24:03.620 Pray for discernment.

00:24:04.760 Not everyone who comes in the name of Christ is of Christ.

00:24:07.120 Remember, even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

00:24:10.780 And you can tell I'm reading this.

00:24:11.920 That's because I wrote them down.

00:24:12.820 I wanted to make sure that I got them right.

00:24:14.120 So for anyone who says, this is kind of what I talked about with the whole he gets us thing, like people getting so angry when Christians exercise any discernment whatsoever.

00:24:32.880 It's like they think we're not supposed to be wise.

00:24:35.680 We're not supposed to be able to tell false teaching from true teaching.

00:24:39.560 But not only in 1 John, but also in Galatians, as we talked about earlier this week, like we are taken to task when we are undiscerning.

00:24:47.260 We are told that we need to discern between false teaching, false spirits, true spirits, and true teaching.

00:24:53.900 Go to God's word.

00:24:54.740 Does it align with what God's word says?

00:24:56.600 If not, reject it entirely.

00:24:58.560 And the Holy Spirit can allow you to do that.

00:25:00.400 James 4 promises that God can give us wisdom when we ask for it.

00:25:05.040 Wisdom is both a promise and a process.

00:25:06.880 We see in Proverbs that wisdom is a process.

00:25:10.280 It's a discipline.

00:25:11.040 It's something that we learn over time through experiences and through applying integrity and weighing the consequences of the different choices that we make, also through God's word.

00:25:21.080 But it's also a promise that God guarantees you through the Holy Spirit.

00:25:24.520 So remember, you have access to that, students who are there and people who are not.

00:25:29.240 I'm also reminded of Acts 2.

00:25:32.060 When the Pentecost arrived, everyone was gathered all in one place.

00:25:35.880 And the second verse says,

00:25:37.340 Suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting.

00:25:42.740 The divided tongues as a fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them, and they were filled all with the Holy Spirit.

00:25:48.420 They began speaking in tongues, and they were made fun of.

00:25:52.180 They were told that they were drunk.

00:25:54.100 But Peter, verse 14, standing with the eleven, lifted up his voice and addressed the men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem.

00:25:59.620 Let this be known to you to give ear to my word.

00:26:01.680 For these people are not drunk, so it is only the third hour of the day.

00:26:05.120 But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel.

00:26:07.560 And so then he uses scripture.

00:26:10.780 He uses scripture, Old Testament scripture, to share the gospel and to show them what is true.

00:26:17.700 To show them that Jesus is the fulfillment of the prophecies that these Jewish people know. 0.63

00:26:22.400 He explains it to them.

00:26:23.400 He lays it all out.

00:26:24.480 He says,

00:26:26.220 Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne.

00:26:32.740 This is about David.

00:26:34.040 He foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption.

00:26:40.460 This Jesus God raised up, and of that we are all witnesses.

00:26:43.420 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit,

00:26:48.020 he has poured out this, that you yourselves are seeing and hearing.

00:26:51.300 And then he finishes using, this is Psalm 16, I believe, that he uses one of David's psalms to finish out his explanation of the gospel,

00:27:05.640 and how Jesus is the culmination of everything that they believe.

00:27:08.620 And here's what verse 37 says.

00:27:11.280 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and to the rest of the apostles,

00:27:16.500 Brothers, what shall we do?

00:27:17.580 And Peter said to them, Repent and be baptized, every one of you. 0.99

00:27:20.160 So, in the name of Jesus Christ, for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

00:27:26.560 And then the rest of the chapter talks about how after hearing the gospel, founded in scripture, grounded in scripture,

00:27:35.620 and realizing that they were guilty of unbelief, realizing that they were guilty of their sins,

00:27:40.400 that something had to change, that they had to repent.

00:27:42.400 And then they were baptized as a signifier of that heart change.

00:27:48.360 They also changed their lives.

00:27:49.900 They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and prayers.

00:27:54.120 And awe came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles.

00:27:57.580 And all who believed were together and had all things in common.

00:28:00.500 They were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all as any had need.

00:28:04.200 So, there are some lessons from this.

00:28:06.120 One, that this, that revival, that heart change, the true conversion comes from the gospel.

00:28:10.320 It comes from scripture.

00:28:11.760 It comes from the Holy Spirit.

00:28:13.980 And that it is also going to produce not just repentance, but also long-term fruit.

00:28:18.600 It is going to produce life change.

00:28:20.620 So, it is too early right now to say whether or not there is long-term fruit from this.

00:28:26.200 We can say that there are short-term fruit from this.

00:28:28.480 From what we see, we can say that there are good things happening.

00:28:31.240 But right now, we need to pray that this conversion, that this preaching, that it produces long-term fruit.

00:28:39.100 And I think that it can, and it will, because we know that the word of God doesn't return void.

00:28:43.620 So, we practice discernment.

00:28:45.240 We practice caution, because that is what we are called biblically to do.

00:28:49.020 We make our emotions subjected to God's word, subjected to Christ.

00:28:53.120 And we look out for that long-term fruit.

00:28:55.180 And, hey, mature Christians who are at Asbury University, you have a major responsibility of discipleship and accountability for those people who have experienced things here but aren't sure where to go next.

00:29:06.140 You start a Bible study.

00:29:07.400 You start mentoring.

00:29:08.500 You start discipling that girl.

00:29:11.280 You start taking this very seriously, because there's a lot of questions.

00:29:15.680 And these people who now have questions about Christianity who didn't before are going to be prey for people who want them to believe things that aren't true.

00:29:23.400 They're going to be asking their questions to TikTok.

00:29:25.380 They're going to be asking their questions to Instagram.

00:29:28.060 They're going to be going to all kinds of people.

00:29:30.260 And Satan still will try to get their hearts.

00:29:33.640 He will still try to deceive them.

00:29:35.860 He will still try to lie to them and move them toward that which is not true.

00:29:40.380 God has placed you there to help guide these people towards truth and light.

00:29:45.280 You have a major responsibility, mature Christians, students, ministers at Asbury University, to make sure that these students are led towards the truth.

00:29:54.520 Pray that the Holy Spirit would empower you to do that.

00:29:56.280 I know that you can, because I know God, and He is good, and He is sovereign, and He is powerfully working in your life.

00:30:02.060 And thank you to everyone who is there sharing the gospel, sharing the truth, preaching God's word, and worshiping truly in the spirit of Christ.

00:30:11.420 Yes and amen.

00:30:11.980 And I pray for true conversion and true awakenings to happen across the country, not just at universities, but everywhere.

00:30:22.000 Man, we need it.

00:30:23.940 All right.

00:30:24.360 Let's move on to the next thing.

00:30:26.680 I don't know if we're going to be able to get into everything that I want to talk about today.

00:30:30.680 We've got a long list of things that I want to discuss.

00:30:32.920 But I do, this is a totally different subject, all right?

00:30:35.560 So just, like, pause.

00:30:37.200 Let's pause for a second so we can, like, just reorient ourselves.

00:30:44.480 Chelsea Handler.

00:30:45.840 All right.

00:30:46.720 Let's move on to Chelsea Handler and things that she is talking about.

00:30:51.000 We went from revival to Chelsea Handler to her making these videos, talking about how happy she is and how excited she is that she is not a mom.

00:31:03.780 Now, she is actually a mom.

00:31:06.800 She is, actually.

00:31:08.080 And I know this is controversial to say.

00:31:10.100 People will probably be mad that I'm saying this, but she is a mom because she has talked about having three abortions. 0.98

00:31:15.180 So she's a mother of three, actually.

00:31:17.460 She will never stop being a mom.

00:31:18.940 She never stopped being a mom. 0.58

00:31:21.980 She had three babies who she allowed to be killed. 0.99

00:31:28.740 And so just because your babies died and were killed doesn't mean that you stopped being a mother.

00:31:36.380 You have actually mothered three children.

00:31:39.820 And that has, I mean, that has eternal, eternal implications because souls are forever.

00:31:48.160 And so while Chelsea Handler says that she's not a mother, what she means is that she's not a mother to any living children.

00:31:53.860 And she is celebrating that in a very calloused way.

00:31:57.940 And, of course, it's kind of played off as a joke.

00:31:59.960 She did this bit for Trevor Noah's Daily Show where she shows a day in the life of Chelsea Handler, how amazing it is to be childless.

00:32:09.180 Now, I will say, let me just warn you before I play this.

00:32:13.100 I would not play this around your kids.

00:32:14.860 She says a couple things right there at the beginning that she does throughout her day that they're not cuss words.

00:32:20.300 So I didn't bleep them out, but they're also not appropriate for kids.

00:32:22.700 So that's my warning.

00:32:24.340 But just to give a full understanding of what Chelsea Handler does without kids, here it is. 0.84

00:32:30.600 This is a day in the life of a childless woman.

00:32:33.480 I wake up at 6 a.m. 0.98

00:32:34.960 I remember that I have no kids to take to school, so I take an edible, masturbate, and go back to sleep. 0.99

00:32:41.960 I wake up at 12.30 p.m. and get ready for a busy day of doing whatever the f*** I feel like. 0.97

00:32:48.440 I put on my most impractical and stylish shoes since I won't be chasing a child around the grocery store.

00:32:55.140 I go to my fave spot in Paris to grab a croissant.

00:32:58.520 I do a meditation sesh on the plane since I have no screaming kids, allowing me all the time in the world to become enlightened.

00:33:06.560 The weightlessness of my existence has granted me superhuman powers.

00:33:10.960 I teleport myself back home.

00:33:13.900 Then I get ready for a night out with whatever hot guy I met on Raya that morning.

00:33:19.380 I call up a babysitter and tell her that I don't need her since I still don't have kids.

00:33:24.480 Now it's time for a workout, so I hit Mount Everest for a quick climb. 0.99

00:33:29.040 I invent a time machine, go back in time, and kill Hitler. 1.00

00:33:33.280 Freeze, you bastard! 1.00

00:33:34.780 It's amazing what you can do when you have this much free time. 1.00

00:33:38.060 And that's a day in the life of a childless woman.

00:33:41.640 Okay, so I get it's supposed to be a joke.

00:33:44.260 I mean, I think that that could have been funny.

00:33:46.540 Like, I think that there's probably a way that she could have made that humorous,

00:33:49.520 but I literally did not crack a smile because it wasn't funny.

00:33:53.520 I find things funny sometimes that are offensive to me.

00:33:57.000 For example, I think Ricky Gervais is so funny,

00:33:59.380 and yet he says things about Christianity and even babies that I find offensive,

00:34:03.380 and yet I'm like, I get how that is funny and super clever and the delivery is good.

00:34:07.900 That wasn't at all.

00:34:10.280 That just like, well, that was so cringe in so many ways.

00:34:13.320 There's so much I have to say about this.

00:34:14.740 First of all, this is not the life of a childless person.

00:34:17.760 This is just the life of a rich person.

00:34:19.660 You think a childless person who doesn't have millions and millions of dollars

00:34:23.440 can do something like this?

00:34:25.200 You think they can, you know, go to Paris and all of these things?

00:34:28.500 This is not, you're not able to do these things because you're childless.

00:34:31.620 Because someone with as much money as you,

00:34:34.120 you would just hire a nanny and you would still do all of these things anyway. 0.99

00:34:38.020 That's point number one.

00:34:39.140 This is the life of a rich person.

00:34:40.560 It's not the life of a childless person.

00:34:42.220 So hardy har.

00:34:43.380 And then number two, girl, Chels,

00:34:46.140 you're 47, okay?

00:34:51.220 You're 47.

00:34:52.920 Your child could literally be graduated from college

00:34:57.240 and in her second year working at a marketing firm, all right?

00:35:01.180 Like your kids, your kids could be grown and married by now, okay?

00:35:07.080 So like your joke about like running around,

00:35:12.800 not having to run around and like chase your kids through the grocery store

00:35:17.960 or not have to worry about screaming kids in airplanes.

00:35:23.000 You cannot physically probably even have a toddler, all right?

00:35:29.160 So like your kids could literally be in their 20s

00:35:32.540 and you could be doing all of these things.

00:35:34.800 You could be doing all the things that you're talking about

00:35:36.780 because your kids would be adults or pretty autonomous anyway.

00:35:42.120 So like she says this kind of stuff a lot.

00:35:44.300 Like, oh, I'm so glad I don't have babies.

00:35:47.160 Sweetheart, you're almost half a century old.

00:35:49.180 And I'm not saying that it's bad.

00:35:51.080 I'm not saying that it's bad to be 47.

00:35:52.940 We're all going to be 47 one day, okay?

00:35:54.940 I mean, all of us who are not 47 yet, we're going to be 47.

00:35:57.860 We're going to be 50.

00:35:58.660 I think it is a gracious gift of God to age and to get old

00:36:04.080 and to do all of those things.

00:36:06.060 So I am not hating on that at all.

00:36:07.880 I'm just saying like she doesn't even have a proper understanding

00:36:10.720 of what her motherhood responsibilities would actually be at this point.

00:36:15.180 You would have, again, all the autonomy to do everything that you want to do.

00:36:20.540 Here, she just wants to emphasize this.

00:36:23.040 She's not defensive at all, guys.

00:36:24.360 She's totally confident in her decision.

00:36:26.000 She's guest hosting Comedy Central's The Daily Show.

00:36:29.900 And she's just reemphasizing, guys, she does not want kids totally comfortable with her decision. 1.00

00:36:35.000 Here she is.

00:36:35.480 One thing that I have made abundantly clear is that I do not want children.

00:36:40.820 I say it on stage.

00:36:42.540 I say it in interviews.

00:36:44.140 It's the first thing I say to myself in the mirror when I wake up each morning,

00:36:47.600 right before I tell myself, God, you're a dynamic woman.

00:36:51.160 Kids don't respect me.

00:36:52.500 And quite frankly, the feeling is mutual.

00:36:55.380 And the fact is there are millions of women just like me. 0.84

00:36:58.180 But for some reason, every single one of us at some point in our lives is shamed by society

00:37:03.260 for not wanting a baby.

00:37:04.920 But these Fox News trolls are right about one thing. 0.99

00:37:07.640 I am miserable. 0.98

00:37:08.580 In fact, I was just scrolling through my Instagram feed the other day realizing how miserable I am. 0.89

00:37:13.120 I'm miserable on the beach.

00:37:15.180 And then here I am miserable on the top of a mountain.

00:37:18.680 And then here I am miserable scuba diving.

00:37:22.080 And then I'm miserable again smoking a joint in a hot tub.

00:37:25.400 And every day is truly a new circle of hell for me.

00:37:31.000 The simple truth is that I'm not having a kid because I'm happier without them.

00:37:35.060 I don't know about you, but that just screams confidence and security to me.

00:37:40.800 She seems like she is so happy about her decisions that she's not miserable at all.

00:37:46.380 She's not at all defensive or anything.

00:37:49.100 She doesn't feel like she has to justify her choices to anyone.

00:37:52.560 I mean, she's just so secure.

00:37:55.400 In what she chose.

00:37:57.180 Look, secure people don't feel like they constantly have to talk about their choices. 0.96

00:38:02.980 But, you know, it's funny because when I posted about it on Twitter, you know, just saying she's ridiculous. 0.96

00:38:10.300 And no one wants to be you. 0.92

00:38:12.800 She a lot of people were like, why?

00:38:14.780 You know, why are you so obsessed?

00:38:16.500 Or why are people, why are conservatives so obsessed with her choices about her kids?

00:38:21.940 Why are they so obsessed with whether or not they have kids?

00:38:24.260 Why do they all say that she should be exactly like them?

00:38:28.100 Why is she so obsessed with it? 0.96

00:38:30.080 She's the one who talks about it all the time.

00:38:31.680 I would have never given a thought or had a comment about whether or not Chelsea Handler had kids.

00:38:37.300 I don't care.

00:38:38.100 In fact, it doesn't really seem like she would be the best or kindest or most compassionate mother, just to be honest.

00:38:45.820 Although I think she probably could have been if she would have allowed her kids to live and would have loved them and raised them and all of that. 0.99

00:38:53.580 But I mean, I don't care what she does.

00:38:57.040 She's the one who's constantly talking about it.

00:38:58.680 She's the one who is constantly talking about how we moms are so miserable, how we have such a difficult life, how we can't do all of the things that she gets to do.

00:39:06.900 She is the one who is obsessed with our reproductive decisions, not the other way around. 1.00

00:39:11.600 She's the one who's constantly talking about it.

00:39:13.440 I am not obsessed with what Chelsea Handler, you know, with what she does and whether or not she decides to have a child.

00:39:19.960 She is constantly talking about it and celebrating it and in doing so, putting down motherhood, denigrating motherhood constantly and talking about how awful kids are.

00:39:31.660 Like, I really, you know, it's one thing to say you're confident in your decision.

00:39:35.620 That's that.

00:39:36.380 And while I do think that Christians who are married should, if possible, have children, whether that's biological or through adoption, I do think that that is a call that we have.

00:39:48.200 And we really need to analyze our hearts and look into our hearts to ask ourselves why we don't want kids or why we're not having kids.

00:39:55.580 But like for single people, like that's not a that's that's not a calling that you have.

00:40:01.120 It's not a responsibility that you have.

00:40:03.160 OK.

00:40:04.300 And Chelsea Handler is also not a Christian.

00:40:05.640 So I don't expect her to, like, see, be fruitful and multiply the same way I do.

00:40:09.520 But you don't have to be so mean about children.

00:40:12.300 People who are mean about children are mean to children, are mean to people with special needs, are mean to old people.

00:40:18.040 Like, I know that this is not a virtuous impulse.

00:40:20.240 OK, so I'm not justifying it.

00:40:21.940 But people who are bullies to those group of people, I really want to bully them.

00:40:25.920 I really want to bully them back because you're picking on people who can't defend themselves, who can't help being the way that they are.

00:40:33.700 And yet you're picking on them because they are powerless.

00:40:37.500 And so, like, I really think that she needs to be bullied. 0.85

00:40:42.440 Again, not a virtuous Christian impulse. 0.98

00:40:45.180 I understand that.

00:40:46.440 I understand.

00:40:47.740 Unless she repents, she's got a lot coming her way for all of eternity.

00:40:51.840 So I don't need to worry about her getting her recompense right now.

00:40:57.720 But I really do not like people who bully those who cannot defend themselves, like kids and old people and people with special needs. 0.96

00:41:09.660 I think that they should be made to feel really small and really dumb.

00:41:13.440 I'll be praying about that, seeing if the Lord can help me not feel that way. 0.94

00:41:20.440 But I do.

00:41:21.500 She really bothers me because I think she is so mean-spirited towards children. 1.00

00:41:27.460 And by the way, you can do all of the things that she's talking about.

00:41:33.320 You can do all of those things.

00:41:35.140 Not all of those things, but you can do a lot of those things in your life.

00:41:38.500 I mean, some of them you don't want to do because they're immoral.

00:41:42.360 But you can do a lot of those things.

00:41:43.840 You have a lot of freedom when your kids go down to sleep.

00:41:46.020 You can go on vacations and things like that.

00:41:48.640 It's true.

00:41:49.220 Every mom needs a break. 1.00

00:41:50.320 Every mom wants a break. 1.00

00:41:51.800 All right?

00:41:52.080 I'm not saying it's not hard.

00:41:53.280 I'm not saying it's not difficult.

00:41:54.200 I'm not saying you don't give things up.

00:41:55.700 You do sacrifice a lot.

00:41:58.220 But to pretend that it's constant misery, that it's a constant burden, it just isn't true.

00:42:03.360 And by the way, it's also just a wrong way of looking at things because sacrifice is actually good.

00:42:07.560 It actually makes life purposeful.

00:42:09.440 It actually makes life fulfilling.

00:42:10.700 It actually gives you more long-term joy than constantly serving yourself does.

00:42:15.380 I mean, she worships herself.

00:42:17.120 She has become an idol for herself.

00:42:19.980 And we know where that ends.

00:42:21.580 Not just temporarily in this life, but also eternally.

00:42:26.520 And so she can say that she's not miserable all she wants to.

00:42:29.100 But we understand that since she doesn't have joy from Christ, we know that she's got a deficit of joy and satisfaction.

00:42:34.900 And that's actually why she feels the need to constantly tell people that she's happy and she's fulfilled because she has all this money because she's probably actually really struggling.

00:42:43.480 So as much as I would just like to bully her and make her feel bad about herself since she feels, since she's so mean to other people and mean to people who can't defend themselves, really, we should just be praying for her.

00:42:53.460 Because that's honestly like the best change that we could possibly see that she would repent and that she would come to Christ and that she would feel guilt for how she treats this group of people and also just her life in general.

00:43:11.760 She has another section of her new Netflix special where she's talking about how terrible motherhood is, where she tells her brother, like, you shouldn't be a parent.

00:43:22.660 This is something she does a lot.

00:43:24.260 This is not just not just talking about these two things.

00:43:26.380 She's constantly talking about how awesome it is to not have kids and how terrible kids are and and things like that.

00:43:32.800 So this is like her shtick.

00:43:34.300 Again, this is not something that indicates like a healthy, happy woman. 0.98

00:43:39.080 And I'm afraid that this kind of this kind of shtick and this kind of example is leading a lot of young girls into thinking that they will be happier and more fulfilled.

00:43:51.960 The less sacrifice, the less inconvenience, the less responsibility that they have in their lives.

00:43:57.020 I promise you the opposite will be true.

00:43:59.340 There's a study that I can only I only have time to mention really quickly about young girls and how depressed they are. 0.50

00:44:06.620 And I think this kind of example that they're seeing in celebrities like Chelsea Handler, I think it has a big role to play in them.

00:44:13.680 Okay, so the Wall Street Journal reported on this and maybe I'll have time to talk about this more on a future episode.

00:44:29.460 But teen girls experiencing record levels of sadness and suicide risk, CDC says.

00:44:34.780 A CDC report, according to the Wall Street Journal, shows concerning increase in sadness and exposure to violence among teen girls.

00:44:40.420 Nearly three out of five high school girls in the U.S. who were surveyed reported feelings of persistent sadness or hopelessness in 2021, a roughly 60 percent increase over the past decade.

00:44:50.140 Yeah, it's social media.

00:44:52.020 It's TikTok. 0.86

00:44:53.260 It's pornography.

00:44:55.640 It's purposelessness.

00:44:57.040 It's joylessness.

00:44:58.020 It's friendlessness.

00:44:59.240 It's the pressure either to be a super sexualized girl at a young age or to not be a girl at all at a young age.

00:45:07.060 Um, it's in some cases, not all, but in some cases, it's parents who are derelict parents who allow their kids to be on social media, who allow their minds to be sucked in by things that are unhealthy, who allow them to have examples on social media and in Hollywood that are simply not good for them, allow them to be sexualized at a super young age, allow them to grow up too fast.

00:45:28.640 And in some ways, stay adolescence for way too long.

00:45:32.080 I think that's probably one, like one phenomenon that we're seeing.

00:45:36.780 On the one hand, you've got parents who are not protective at all when it comes to technology and what their kids are consuming, but are hyper protective when it comes to their physical safety, to the, to the point of being beyond rational.

00:45:46.560 And so you have kids who are, have stunted growth in a lot of ways when it comes to their problem solving skills, to their maturity, but are way too advanced when it comes to what they've been exposed to sexually with violence and just the problems of the world.

00:46:00.840 Also weighed down with politics.

00:46:02.440 When I was in high school, we didn't think about politics.

00:46:05.520 I remember when Barack Obama became president, we watched his inauguration in my high school.

00:46:09.460 So that's, and I remember 9-11, like really, that's basically it.

00:46:13.640 We didn't talk about abortion.

00:46:14.700 We certainly didn't know what transgenderism was.

00:46:16.940 We didn't really talk about quote unquote gay marriage.

00:46:19.360 That wasn't even really like a thing.

00:46:21.480 We didn't have to worry.

00:46:22.660 We didn't have the weight of the world on our shoulders.

00:46:24.280 And I'm talking like I was in high school, 2006 to 2010.

00:46:27.300 So it's not all that long ago, but it was before the dawn of all of this technology that has made even adults feel like we have to be everywhere at once and care about everything all of the time.

00:46:37.620 We, as adults, with our frontal lobe already developed, we have a hard time like filtering through all of the information that we see.

00:46:45.920 The actual, the sexual pornography, and then you've got the fear pornography that you have.

00:46:52.800 And it's a lot of, it's a lot of stimuli all the time.

00:46:58.280 A lot of information, a lot of things to think about, a lot of things to be anxious about.

00:47:02.020 And I remember being in that stage, being self-conscious about my body and, you know, feeling, you know, maybe left out by some friends or wanting to hang out with some people that I felt were cooler than me.

00:47:13.180 And that was without social media.

00:47:14.780 We had Facebook in high school, but it was, you know, basically nothing.

00:47:18.260 Like you could write on people's wall and post some pictures.

00:47:20.600 But I can't imagine being a teenager, feeling all those very natural things, being self-conscious, being insecure, comparing yourself to others, feeling left out, feeling like you don't fit in, and seeing that displayed on social media, on Snapchat.

00:47:35.120 So not only do you find out like a week later, oh, you weren't invited to that party or that sleepover or whatever, you actually see it in the moment when you were sitting there by yourself, scrolling through social media, already feeling terrible.

00:47:45.260 And then you see on Snapchat, all your friends got together and they're sending me and stuff or they're having fun without you or whatever it is or all of it.

00:47:53.160 It's just so much.

00:47:54.340 It's too much for kids to be able to wade through, especially for young girls who already have it harder, I think, when they're teenagers.

00:48:01.700 So like parents, if you can, please get your kids off of social media.

00:48:05.480 I know you might think it's too late because you've got a 16 or 17 year old, but you are still the parent and it is your responsibility to steward them.

00:48:11.340 I'm not saying that we can't expose them to things in a way that is controlled and helpful and in a way that like we can actually guide them and show them what's right and wrong.

00:48:21.800 But when we allow them to seek celebrities and social media as their guide, we cannot be surprised when their morality and their view of themselves in the world is completely warped.

00:48:32.140 I really don't think that people should have social media until they're 18 years old, maybe 16, although I have a hard time seeing the benefit in that.

00:48:42.500 Now, I think that we can teach them about social media before that.

00:48:45.180 So it's not completely like wild, wild west to them when they leave the house, maybe for college or whatever.

00:48:50.140 But I don't think the maturity is there.

00:48:53.080 I just don't.

00:48:53.920 I just don't think the teenagers should have those devices in their phones.

00:48:57.480 They can't or in their hands.

00:48:58.960 They can not handle it.

00:49:01.420 And we see across the board that these girls are really struggling.

00:49:05.820 Among the teenagers surveyed, girls were more likely to experience sexual violence.

00:49:09.640 The CDC found 18 percent of girls in high school said they experienced sexual violence in the past year compared with 15 percent in 2017.

00:49:16.800 That was the first year they began to monitor that trend.

00:49:21.420 And that has gone up drastically, I think, in large part because of pornography, the pervasiveness of it.

00:49:27.080 Young boys are seeing that young girls are seeing that.

00:49:29.400 So girls think that they have to do what they see in porn. 1.00

00:49:32.180 Boys think that the girls need to do what they see in porn. 0.97

00:49:35.520 So you're seeing trends even on TikTok of girls talking about liking being choked in sex when they're 16 years old. 0.99

00:49:42.540 I mean, it's sick.

00:49:44.040 Parents, what are we doing?

00:49:46.120 What are we doing?

00:49:47.360 Get your kids off TikTok.

00:49:49.440 There's no net benefit.

00:49:51.820 All right.

00:49:52.820 Get your kids off Instagram.

00:49:54.600 Make them go touch grass.

00:49:56.340 OK, like people don't understand how great it was to be a kid in like the 90s and 2000s and people.

00:50:02.320 And of course, it can be hard.

00:50:03.680 I'm not saying it's perfect.

00:50:04.480 And, you know, I wasn't obviously alive in the 70s and 80s.

00:50:07.600 But people talking about being a kid then and how amazing it was.

00:50:10.360 Even people talking about how great the 50s was.

00:50:12.480 I mean, but like the connection is that we were outside a lot more and we were doing things more.

00:50:18.580 And we just had a lot more freedom in some ways.

00:50:22.260 I mean, I had protective parents when it came to like what I watched and things like that.

00:50:26.260 But man, we didn't have the weight of the world and the weight of technology on our shoulders.

00:50:29.960 And I want that for kids today.

00:50:31.360 But parents, it's our job.

00:50:32.920 Our kids aren't going to naturally discipline themselves because they don't have the capacity to.

00:50:37.200 So I think that's a huge part of the depression that we are seeing.

00:50:41.480 I think depression in itself can also be a social contagion, which is exacerbated by social media.

00:50:45.980 And it's not helped by people like Chelsea Handler, who are terrible, terrible, terrible examples.

00:50:51.880 However, just to loop it all back, then you've got amazing revivals, hopefully, at places like Asbury.

00:50:59.680 And you see how there is hope, how God can do things in this younger generation and not all hope is lost.

00:51:05.420 And so, Lord, help us.

00:51:07.380 Lord, help this generation.

00:51:08.800 May they be the generation that changes things for the better.

00:51:11.040 Please, God.

00:51:11.780 Okay, tomorrow, finally, we are going to be talking about the story that I saw a couple weeks ago about women being used, dead women or brain-dead women, brain-dead women being used as surrogates.

00:51:36.100 What?

00:51:37.380 And what this all says, I'm going to have a guest who's going to talk about that.

00:51:40.380 All right.

00:51:41.640 Thanks so much for listening.

00:51:42.900 We will be back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - February 15, 2023

Ep 755 ｜ Revival at Asbury University？

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