Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 760 ｜ Whistleblower Exposes Horrors at Gender Clinic ｜ Guest： Seth Dillon

00:00:00.000 A left-wing whistleblower is shedding light on the horrors inside America's gender clinics, 0.98

00:00:05.840 where she claims children are being used and abused without any caution from doctors.

00:00:10.400 Here to discuss this and all the insanity of our day is Seth Dillon, my friend and CEO of

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00:00:30.000 Seth, thanks so much for joining us again. How's it going? How's life at The Babylon Bee?

00:00:39.480 Good. Fast-paced. We're staying busy, but things are good over here.

00:00:43.740 Yeah. Are things busier now that you are on Twitter and you have more to tweet about? Not you,

00:00:48.400 but Babylon Bee. Yeah. I mean, that whole story brought a lot of attention to us,

00:00:55.500 so it actually made us a lot busier. We were busier than ever tweeting less.

00:00:58.880 Yeah, that's true. Eight months that we were off Twitter and locked in Twitter jail.

00:01:03.060 But since then, yeah, I mean, it's been kind of a media mayhem frenzy. A lot of speaking stuff has

00:01:09.720 come up as a result of that, so I've been kind of traveling around the country doing things. Plus,

00:01:13.960 you know, we're planning for a live event that we're doing next, well, on the 24th.

00:01:17.640 Yeah. Yeah, a lot going on. A lot going on. How do you think that Twitter is going since Elon Musk took

00:01:24.580 over? Because I felt like there was a sweet spot there for the first couple weeks, and then things

00:01:29.100 kind of got weird again. I feel like people started talking about my reach is down. Why is my profile

00:01:34.400 private reaching more people than it does when it's public? So I know he's only one guy. I'm not

00:01:39.060 blaming him, but I just don't know. Is it even possible to like really turn Twitter around? I'm not

00:01:44.340 sure. Well, the funny thing is you had everybody talking about how Twitter was going to be crashing in

00:01:49.060 a matter of days or minutes, even because he was firing so many people. That didn't happen.

00:01:54.620 The app still works. It's still functioning really well. Yeah. He's saying that it's improved,

00:02:00.020 that its speed is actually improved. So I don't know. I mean, my experience on Twitter has has

00:02:05.600 when he first took over, my engagement was skyrocketing. I don't know if you experienced

00:02:10.220 that, but I was gaining followers like never before. Some of that had to do with our involvement

00:02:14.380 in the Twitter story, I think. Right. But I don't know. I mean, I don't think there's a lot

00:02:19.620 of people who've been restored. Obviously, tons of accounts have been restored. But as far as it goes

00:02:24.560 with like, is Twitter like a better service than it used to be? I mean, he's experimenting in the

00:02:30.220 public eye and playing with things. He's rolling back a lot of the changes that he puts out there

00:02:34.120 days after he puts them out. So there's a lot of like open experimentation happening that makes it feel

00:02:39.220 like it's really chaotic and unstable. But I don't know. I think it's kind of cool. I think it's fun to

00:02:44.000 have him just kind of playing in it like a sandbox and seeing what works and what doesn't. And he's

00:02:47.980 obviously very receptive to feedback. So I think that's a healthy thing. Yeah, I think that's a

00:02:51.800 healthy thing, too. At one point, he talked about like, allowing us to have some more transparency

00:02:56.020 tools to see kind of what's going on behind the scenes with all of our accounts. I don't think

00:03:00.680 that's been rolled out for anyone yet. But I do think that that would be interesting. More

00:03:04.440 transparency, the better. Okay, let's talk about some Babylon Bee prophecies, some recent ones that have

00:03:10.040 come true. It's been seven days per our calculation since the last fulfillment. So y'all are lagging a

00:03:17.240 little bit. Hopefully sometime this week, y'all will be able to prophesy something that will be

00:03:22.400 fulfilled. The last one that I see prophecy number 87 that has been fulfilled by the Babylon Bee, which

00:03:28.160 is pretty crazy. Babylon Bee said Biden says he'll shoot down Chinese spy balloon as soon as he done

00:03:33.140 letting it spy. They said, the press said US military shoots down Chinese spy balloon over

00:03:40.420 Atlantic Ocean. So that's basically what happened after several days of surveillance. Do you guys

00:03:45.580 ever get surprised at this point by how your satire is actually just predicting reality?

00:03:51.880 No, I think probably the only thing that surprises me is when it happens almost immediately,

00:03:55.700 where, you know, we'll publish a joke. And then within a matter of minutes or hours,

00:04:00.080 there's a real story that comes out that's just like the joke. That's kind of surprising because

00:04:04.320 you don't expect it to happen right away. But no, it's certainly not surprising that in general,

00:04:08.640 our jokes are coming true. Because I mean, what kind of headlines do you see now that are really that

00:04:12.860 shocking and jarring? We're so accustomed to seeing wild stuff happening. I think we've had

00:04:17.440 some since then, though. I think wasn't the one we had, we did a joke about how Satan distances

00:04:23.320 himself from the performance at the Grammys. Yes. And then there was an article about how the

00:04:27.820 of Satan put out a statement. Yes, but that was Oh, no, you're right. You're right. This is out of

00:04:33.560 order. That was fulfilled on February 8. The Chinese spy balloon was fulfilled on February 4. But the

00:04:41.000 satanic one was February 8. So you guys said horrified Satan distances self from Grammys. They

00:04:47.840 said Church of Satan says Sam Smith and Kim Petrus. Kim Petrus is unholy performance was more

00:04:54.160 meh than satanic. I mean, it's pretty uncanny, honestly.

00:05:01.000 Yeah, it's really funny. Who thought the Church of Satan would actually weigh in on that?

00:05:05.240 Yeah, I know. They've been weighing in a lot of stuff recently. How do you as someone who is in

00:05:11.000 the media, you said that you're speaking at all these events, you're on Twitter and things like

00:05:14.840 that. Like there's so much happening. There's a constant bombardment of stuff that we're supposed to

00:05:19.740 care about, whether it's potential UFOs, Chinese spy balloons that honestly, like when we hear

00:05:25.140 another story, it's like, Oh, nuclear war is imminent or something crazy is happening. There's

00:05:30.420 been a crazy derailment in Ohio. It's like Chernobyl. We kind of just are like, okay, and then we move

00:05:36.900 along a little bit because it's such a deluge of stuff happening. How do you wade through all of it and

00:05:42.780 decide, okay, what really matters? What am I going to care about and comment on?

00:05:46.560 Well, it's funny. You mentioned Twitter to start this whole conversation off. Twitter kind of

00:05:50.860 drives that for me. That's how I keep my finger in the pulse of what's going on is what

00:05:54.980 people in my circles and the people that I follow are engaging with and seeing come across their

00:06:00.220 feeds and what's trending there. I track that daily all the time. I'm probably on Twitter too much.

00:06:08.180 I have a hard time putting Twitter away. It's addictive. It really is. But it keeps me up to

00:06:13.320 speed with what's going on. Are you asking more for me personally or for what the bee decides to

00:06:18.500 pay attention to? How do you know you personally or I guess the bee? I mean, I think I can kind of

00:06:24.780 understand how the bee chooses their headlines and what they're going to comment on just based on

00:06:28.520 who pitches what and what's funny and what people are talking about. But I mean, you alone are also

00:06:34.740 like your own figure that goes around and speaks and things like that. How do you not get overwhelmed

00:06:40.140 by everything there is to care about and talk about? I don't pay attention to everything. See,

00:06:45.480 I think I would ask that question of you because you have to talk about this wide range of issues

00:06:49.580 all the time and you have an opinion about all these things and you got to read up on them to

00:06:54.180 be able to speak about them intelligently. I don't have pressure to do that on me all the time

00:06:59.100 because I'm not running a show where I'm having a discussion like this every single day.

00:07:02.720 So but you tweet a lot. You tweet about, I would say like a lot of stories, probably more than I do.

00:07:07.680 Maybe I do. But you'll notice, though, there's there's common themes like I tweet a lot about

00:07:13.880 gender affirming care and my opposition to what's happening with kids. You know, there's certain 1.00

00:07:19.880 topics that I weigh in on more than other topics, because those are ones that for whatever reason,

00:07:25.080 personally, I care about a lot, have more knowledge about. I'm not really weighing in on like UFOs and

00:07:30.780 stuff like that, because I don't really have like a strong opinion one way or another about whether or

00:07:35.940 not aliens exist. I'm not trying to get into debates about any of that. I am interested in

00:07:42.300 seeing our government's response to these things or lack of response to some of these things.

00:07:46.020 Yeah. But mostly I'm just watching on the sidelines for some of that stuff.

00:07:48.740 I mean, I'm I'm the same. I look at the stuff that really matters to me. A lot of it is considered

00:08:04.120 like culture war stuff, stuff about like human nature and things like that. I mean, I guess

00:08:09.060 I'm kind of interested in a UFO conversation from like a theological perspective. But I also I mean,

00:08:14.480 I'm the same. I do have to talk about these things. But I don't talk about everything. It's

00:08:18.800 not really a news show. I kind of pick and choose what I want to talk about, depending on what I care

00:08:22.460 about. People just ask me that question. Have you talked about that issue, the UFOs thing? And from a

00:08:26.720 theological perspective, like where does that fit into the Christian worldview, whether or not there

00:08:31.080 could be other life out there somewhere in the universe? Okay, so I'll link the past episode so

00:08:35.760 people can go listen to it if they haven't already. But I did have I did have these guys on I don't

00:08:41.660 know if you've heard of blurry creatures. Have you heard of that podcast? No. So basically, they go

00:08:48.260 through these different myths that they don't really think are myths like Bigfoot, the Loch Ness

00:08:55.100 monster, aliens, and they try to talk about it from like a biblical perspective. Now they don't have

00:09:01.100 the same theology necessarily as I do on everything. But they it is interesting to talk to them. So they go

00:09:09.080 back to like Genesis six, and the Nephilim. All right, I don't even know about all of this. And I

00:09:16.000 would have to go back into the conversation and refresh myself. But basically, they believe that

00:09:20.760 it is a possibility that there's kind of like another species of human like people on earth. I don't know

00:09:27.460 if they would call them aliens or even extraterrestrial. But I think basically, they might think it's

00:09:32.880 theologically possible. Whereas I'm just not really sure how that would fall into the whole redemption

00:09:39.880 plan with Christ and heaven and hell and all of that. Having creatures that are not made in the 0.95

00:09:45.360 image of God and are not human and are not animal. I don't know. What do you think?

00:09:51.220 Yeah, it's a strange thing. It's like, well, yeah, I mean, did, did he make other creatures on other

00:09:57.060 planets in his image as well? And did they fall? Or didn't they? You know, that's those are, I guess,

00:10:02.820 interesting questions. The Bible doesn't speak to to all of those things, obviously. And I'm not

00:10:07.100 sure how helpful it is to really worry about that too much. I don't know that that's that big of a

00:10:11.660 deal. I've never been one of those people who looks at the vastness of the universe and thinks

00:10:15.660 that that indicates that we're somehow insignificant or anything. I think it's just the glory of God

00:10:20.260 on display. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't, I don't, I don't spend too much time troubling over

00:10:27.040 those things. I'm gonna, I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say that there, because if I am to take the

00:10:33.320 creation account, literally, it does say that God created man and woman on earth. So, I mean, I don't

00:10:39.600 think that there are parallel creation accounts. That's my conservative view of it. But there are other

00:10:45.100 conservatives who think differently. Matt Walsh is very into the alien thing, which has been

00:10:48.800 interesting to watch. But I did have someone on the show who talked about absence of evidence

00:10:52.720 doesn't necessarily mean evidence of absence, right? Yes, that is true. There's a guy that came

00:10:58.240 on the show who talked about like, why scientifically, what they're shooting down these Chinese spy

00:11:03.840 balloons can't actually be aliens because of like the technology necessary to enter into like a

00:11:09.520 different dimension or something. So I'm not really worried about that. But you did say you

00:11:15.700 mentioned that you care. We're not qualified to have that conversation. Yeah, no, we're not. So

00:11:19.560 we're just gonna leave it right there. Okay, so you mentioned that you care about something that I

00:11:23.660 care about a lot. And that's this transgender issue. Obviously, it has to do with identity. It

00:11:28.760 has to do with bodies, it has to do with children, it has to do with like, just our understanding of

00:11:33.100 reality and truth and right and wrong as a whole. And I'm sure you saw the story, which I haven't

00:11:38.000 been able to talk about yet, which is the St. Louis Transgender Clinic whistleblower. This was on

00:11:44.740 freepress.com, I believe. She her name is Jamie Reed, this whistleblower, she worked at a gender 1.00

00:11:51.100 clinic, the Washington University Transgender Center. I mean, this is she said she's to the left

00:11:55.660 of Bernie Sanders. She she's married to a quote unquote, trans man. So as far as I can see, she's

00:12:02.100 very pro all of this. And yet she basically says, Look, we're mutilating kids bodies who are confused,

00:12:08.100 they don't actually even have gender dysphoria. She plays into that this is a social contagion 0.93

00:12:13.900 argument. And this needs to be stopped because people don't care about this enough. Did you see

00:12:19.640 this story? I did? Yeah. And it's really interesting to see what really lends her story credibility is

00:12:25.180 that she's not just a run of the mill conservative who is already objecting to these things and came

00:12:31.280 across something, you know, she's somebody who cares deeply about the trans cause and fighting

00:12:37.660 for trans rights and things of that nature. So I'm sure for adults, she's all about, you know,

00:12:42.800 making your own decisions on these things with your doctor. But when it comes to kids, what she's seen

00:12:47.420 with kids, it's really eye opening stuff. I mean, the words that she used were really strong to talking

00:12:51.840 about how abhorrent and morally bankrupt this stuff is, and how there's experimentation happening on

00:12:57.180 these kids, she's like, this is, these are, these are tests that are being done. The kids have no

00:13:02.000 idea. You know, when talking about like how the potential side effects of some of these things

00:13:05.940 could result in sterilization, and having conversations with kids about what infertility

00:13:11.720 really means for them in lifelong terms, and having them make those decisions as if they can really

00:13:17.580 take on board what the implications of that really are. You know, she's come to an awareness that this is,

00:13:21.960 this is messed up to be doing this experimenting like this with kids is messed up. And I think it's good

00:13:26.600 that there are people on that side who can see that for the longest time, you've had people either

00:13:31.080 denying that any of this was happening. Oh, there is no, you know, gender surgery happening for minors

00:13:35.720 anywhere in the country. They start with that. And then all of a sudden, they're talking about how

00:13:39.720 it's really good thing. And you're, you're harming kids if you don't push this stuff. I think you we

00:13:44.240 need reasonable voices on that side who say, look, I'm all about trans rights or whatever. But with the

00:13:49.440 kids, this stuff has gone way, way, way too far. Yeah, I mean, obviously, we would disagree with her on the

00:13:54.660 vast majority of things. But I'm like, okay, if we can link arms on this, I am willing to push

00:13:59.980 forward with you. We tried to the reason I haven't talked about it yet. It's because we tried to get

00:14:04.860 her on the show. I knew it was going to be difficult. One, because she doesn't seem like she's a very

00:14:08.880 public person, which I understand. I'm sure her safety is compromised at this point. But also because

00:14:15.020 I'm sure she sees me as like some radical right winger might be hard to convince her maybe one day.

00:14:20.560 But I'm so thankful. She says, at first, the patient population was tipped toward what used

00:14:26.160 to be the traditional instance of a child with gender dysphoria, a boy quite young, wanted to

00:14:31.040 present as or wanted to be a girl. And then she says, all of a sudden, and this is what Abigail

00:14:36.540 Schreier talks about in her book, it became girls, girls 13 to 15 years old, who never had gender

00:14:43.360 dysphoria, who were very often autistic or ADHD, or were having problems at school. And they would come

00:14:50.160 in with all these issues. And rather than treating those issues or an eating disorder,

00:14:53.700 they would just say, okay, here's testosterone. And she says, this is interesting to me. I feel

00:14:58.600 like social media plays something in there. She said, frequently, our patients declared these girls

00:15:03.740 who would come in, declared that they had other mental disorders, but they actually didn't. Like

00:15:08.780 they would come in and say, oh, yeah, I have Tourette's, or I have autism, or I have ADHD. And these

00:15:13.680 doctors would be like, no, you don't. You don't actually even have these mental disorders. So

00:15:18.460 there's something really deep here. There's something like identity level,

00:15:23.780 psychologically, spiritually going on that these girls are craving.

00:15:29.160 Yeah. And the fact that they're going, the first place that they go is into these clinics.

00:15:33.720 And these clinics, they have like a system set up where they try to rush you through the process.

00:15:39.080 They have like templates for these letters that they'll, that they want you to get signed,

00:15:44.220 so that you just go straight into the process of receiving medical treatment for this.

00:15:48.860 And there's no real deep psychological evaluation going on. There's no therapy that's being attempted,

00:15:54.400 where they're trying to get to the bottom of what some of these issues are that are,

00:15:57.700 they're creating some problems. The assumption is just that, okay, there's some lack of comfort.

00:16:02.420 There are some, some issues with you socially. So let's just say you're a boy now and transition

00:16:07.980 you and put you on that path. And then they start going down this path,

00:16:11.200 all these negative side effects. And it was really crazy when she started looking at some

00:16:15.200 of the side effects that were resulting from some of this and saying, look,

00:16:18.000 we're harming these kids. We're actually harming these kids.

00:16:21.680 So, I mean, so awful. And she gets really-

00:16:23.500 I wonder, you mentioned a minute ago, like her, yeah, her safety risk. I wonder what kind of 0.78

00:16:28.280 backlash she's getting from this for, for telling this story. You know, it did take a lot of boldness.

00:16:33.000 It's the idea that, you know, Rachel Levine is brave or Caitlyn Jenner is brave when they're

00:16:40.640 getting up there and just receiving all this applause and affirmation. The bravery is from

00:16:44.940 someone like this who sees this harm that's being done. And they know that everybody that's on that

00:16:49.740 side of the aisle is going to be coming after them and gunning for them if they say anything about it.

00:16:54.140 To go out there and do that, that took a lot of courage. It took a lot of boldness.

00:16:57.380 And my hope, when I see a story like this, it's like, this is the first real big whistleblower

00:17:01.580 from a, from a gender clinic that we've seen. I hope that this will embolden others to come out,

00:17:07.260 but I'm sure there's going to be attempts to intimidate and silence and harass people

00:17:12.140 that even think about doing something like this. So I'm glad that she did. I hope she emboldens others.

00:17:17.000 Yeah. I mean, 100% that she is probably receiving some kind of,

00:17:23.220 I mean, some kind of threat, some kind of backlash,

00:17:26.080 because I think she's the first whistleblower of her kind, especially like a left-wing person

00:17:31.360 who actually worked in a clinic saying, this is what's going on. And I've actually gotten messages

00:17:36.300 from people who work in this hospital, obviously who want to remain anonymous. They're conservative.

00:17:41.880 They agree with us. And they're like, it is even worse than what you are seeing here. So I think

00:17:48.180 they're going to try to make an example of her. Who knows how? We might not even ever know about it. 1.00

00:17:52.660 But I guarantee that other people who even consider doing the same thing that she is,

00:17:59.000 they are going to deal with major inhibitions, major obstacles in doing that. And I think that's

00:18:04.840 part, our job is like to share the arrows as much as possible. I mean, I don't know how to give

00:18:09.940 encouragement to this woman, but as much as the rest of us can also stand up and say,

00:18:14.360 yeah, I know that's unpopular, but me too. And she's right. The more that other whistleblowers

00:18:19.740 stand up and say, yeah, that's happening here. She's right. The easier it will be. I mean,

00:18:24.380 it's hard when it's one person, but then when the dominoes start to fall, then everyone's like,

00:18:28.900 okay, I've got the shield of numbers on my side. So that's my hope. I hope that this is the first

00:18:34.820 in many, many, many whistleblowers standing up and saying, yeah, this is happening everywhere.

00:18:38.980 Yeah. And I just, you know, so often a lot of the questions that I get, especially just with what

00:18:44.400 I do for a living, coming out and being vocal on issues like this, a lot of the questions that I

00:18:48.340 get are around things like, and like, well, why do you care so much about this issue? Why do you care

00:18:52.040 so much about the pro-life cause or about the transgenderism in kids? And, and the first,

00:18:57.820 my first reaction to that is always, well, why don't you care? How do you not care? Like when the

00:19:02.960 well-being of children is at stake, when lives are at stake and they're, and they're going through

00:19:06.860 such harm and suffering, they're starting out with emotional suffering and confusion

00:19:10.420 that's being planted in their minds. And then we're treating it with this, this permanently

00:19:14.680 damaging surgery and this drugging that we're doing. I mean, I don't see how anybody couldn't

00:19:19.900 care about that. And the fact that there's going to be some backlash that you're going to face,

00:19:23.280 you know, possibly being ostracized from your community. You might be criticized harshly. You

00:19:27.580 might have mean things said to you, but I mean, but you're, you're doing that in order to stand up

00:19:33.300 for these kids that need someone to voice concern for what's happening to them. So, I mean, people

00:19:38.700 have to be willing to pay that price to stand up for kids. I'm glad Jamie was. Yeah, me too. And I'm

00:19:43.520 glad that she was so graphic and how she detailed like what the girls are going through. And I don't

00:19:48.640 have to read it all, but just talking about how their reproductive organs and their genitalia 0.79

00:19:54.400 were damaged so significantly by going on testosterone. And it just made me think like,

00:20:00.520 obviously we know that a girl's body can't really turn into a man's body and vice versa. 0.88

00:20:05.660 But I was thinking about just how every cell of the human body is gendered. Almost every cell of

00:20:11.880 the human body is gendered. And how every cell will then reject a hormone that is not meant to interact 1.00

00:20:22.060 with those cells at that level. And so, of course, this is going to hurt your reproduction. Of course,

00:20:28.160 this is going to hurt your genitalia. Of course, this is going to hurt your voice. Of course, 1.00

00:20:32.420 this is going to be bad for you. It's going to cause cancer. It's going to cause diabetes. It's

00:20:36.720 going to cause dementia in some cases. And she's saying that these girls didn't know. They didn't

00:20:42.320 know if they had sex that they would be bleeding profusely. They didn't know what their genitalia 0.99

00:20:47.000 would look like. They didn't think about the fact that maybe they'll change their mind one day and

00:20:50.580 they won't be able to breastfeed or even have children. And she talks about specific stories where all of

00:20:55.640 that happened. And so, I'm with you. I'm like, how could we not care about this? How could we possibly

00:21:00.420 look the other way?

00:21:01.940 Yeah. Yeah. And the side effects are rarely mentioned. That's the thing. It's not just like,

00:21:06.080 it's not like they're sitting them down and saying, look, these are all the potential side effects that

00:21:09.580 could happen to you. These are the more common ones. It's usually just framed in terms of, well,

00:21:15.660 you're feeling this discomfort. This will alleviate that discomfort. And then they leave it at that.

00:21:21.180 And then you end up with these people that end up wanting to detransition because of the terrible

00:21:25.800 side effects that they're dealing with, or they come to regret the decision that they made.

00:21:30.080 And those stories are not being heard enough. Those people are very bold. They're the ones who

00:21:35.400 get attacked by this community more than anybody else. And so, platforming those voices is very

00:21:40.760 important too. So, I absolutely agree with you though. This domino thing where when you stand up as one

00:21:45.560 voice, one person, you're an outlier, you're easy to squash, you're an easy target. There needs to be

00:21:51.000 a whole army of people that stand up. I can't believe there aren't more of them. Eventually,

00:21:54.880 there will be more of them. In the whole pro-life debate, the pro-life cause, there is a massive

00:22:01.240 movement around that. We need the same kind of movement with this stuff.

00:22:04.860 Yeah, I agree. She ended her article saying experiments are supposed to be carefully designed.

00:22:10.740 Hypotheses are supposed to be tested ethically. The doctors I worked alongside of the

00:22:14.480 Transgender Clinic or Transgender Center said frequently about the treatment of our patients,

00:22:18.740 we are building the plane while we are flying it. No one should be a passenger on that kind of

00:22:25.680 aircraft. Wow. And so, they're going with it because they're making a lot of money.

00:22:32.340 Pharmaceutical companies are making a lot of money. They're creating lifelong patients for all kinds

00:22:38.620 of ailments and consequences that come from this. And so, the medical industrial complex is making a lot

00:22:47.260 of money. So, I don't even know if it's fully about ideology for everyone as much as it is about profit

00:22:52.900 and just corruption. And so, again, just applause for this woman for taking that on because that's not 1.00

00:22:59.900 an easy thing to do.

00:23:02.560 Yeah, and it's supported by the Biden administration, too. You know, Rachel Levine supports this gender 0.99

00:23:06.760 affirming care. I always put that in scare quotes. I don't like using that terminology, gender affirming

00:23:11.140 care. We know that's a euphemism for terrible things. But Rachel Levine supports this. The Biden

00:23:17.060 administration supports this stuff. I mean, and this is what's really interesting to me, though,

00:23:21.620 from an ideological or political standpoint. You would think that politically you would want to

00:23:26.920 adopt positions on issues like this that have really wide appeal so that you don't turn people

00:23:34.260 away at the ballot box. But Democrats have really gone hard on this stuff and really seem to be

00:23:39.320 supporting this stuff for kids. It's not just like they're saying, oh, once you're 18, this stuff is

00:23:44.000 fine. They really are supporting and promoting the gender affirming care for minors that involves

00:23:49.840 not just getting on these hormones or social transitioning, but surgical procedures like double

00:23:54.840 mastectomies or hysterectomies and things of that nature. They are happening in these hospitals as is

00:24:00.180 documented and they do support these things. And I think the more that we raise awareness about that,

00:24:04.400 the more people will see that your vote really matters on this stuff. It really does.

00:24:08.000 Yep. Politics matter because policy matters because people matter. And people who say like,

00:24:12.300 I see this a lot on the left or people who consider themselves unbiased but are really on the left,

00:24:17.240 they'll point to people like me or others who say, oh, they just care about the culture wars because

00:24:22.260 they want to stoke division or they want attention or they're grifting or things like that. I'm like,

00:24:26.920 we're literally talking about human beings. We're talking about children. We're talking about

00:24:31.320 mutilation. I care, but I don't want to have to care about this because I wish it wasn't a reality.

00:24:36.580 I would love to not talk about this. But unfortunately, if we care at all about anything,

00:24:41.080 we have to in the same way that abolitionists cared about slaves. And I know people don't like

00:24:45.240 that comparison, but it is a comparison. You're talking about objectifying people and mutilating their

00:24:49.780 bodies. This is a very important point. You know, I don't benefit from talking about

00:24:54.860 what's happening with these kids in this gender madness, the gender ideology madness. 1.00

00:24:59.560 I personally don't benefit from it at all. In fact, it puts the rest of my business at risk,

00:25:04.680 because what happens is they try to lump me in this bucket with terrorists. They try to say that

00:25:09.180 I'm a terrorist who's inciting violence against gender clinics or children's hospitals or whatever

00:25:14.040 by simply noticing or talking about these things. Getting labeled as a terrorist is extremely damaging to

00:25:19.680 your reputation, potentially to all of your business ventures. You could have your banking drop you.

00:25:25.600 You could have all of the platforms that you're that you're working with drop you. So, you know, you draw a lot of

00:25:32.160 attacks, a lot of vitriol and a lot of negativity to yourself. And I don't generate money off of the tweets that are

00:25:39.100 mentioning these things or drawing attention to these things. All I draw is the negative stuff.

00:25:43.420 And so this idea that somehow this is grifting for me or that it's beneficial to me, you know,

00:25:47.960 it's just it's just insane. In fact, it's it's a huge liability that I actually vocalize my opinions

00:25:53.340 on these things. Yeah, but I do it anyway. It's so funny. I had someone say the other day because I

00:26:08.900 said something, you know, that I'm sure someone deemed controversial, but I said it because I

00:26:13.520 believe it's true. And they were like, I mean, this is like a blue checkmark. Influential person was like,

00:26:18.200 look, I get that you want to sell ads. I get that you're just trying to grow an audience.

00:26:23.860 I'm like, that is actually probably the opposite of what I'm doing and saying this. If anything,

00:26:28.100 I am putting those things at risk by saying things that I know will offend people possibly in my

00:26:32.680 audience. I think the whole grifting accusation towards people who just say something that you

00:26:37.260 disagree with is a way to make themselves feel better without actually having to contend with your

00:26:41.660 argument. Because you're right. You're doing the exact opposite. You're actually probably

00:26:45.580 cutting portions of maybe your potential audience by saying things that are going to offend them. So

00:26:51.160 people are just selling. Yeah, it's definitely an ad hominem. It's a way of just saying, look,

00:26:55.000 your motives are bad. You're not to be taken seriously. And so I don't have to respond to any

00:27:00.760 of your points or argue for my position. Turn it back on them. Make them defend the practice of

00:27:06.380 drugging and mutilating, sterilizing, castrating children. Yeah, that's really what's at stake in the

00:27:12.240 conversation. You know, what is what is their reason for defending that? What do they stand to

00:27:17.000 gain by defending that? Yeah, it's gotten to the point to where these that these scientists are

00:27:23.700 actually saying this is according to the telegraph, that we should so embrace this movement that is

00:27:29.520 hurting the bodies of children and adults, that we should stop using the words female, or male

00:27:36.500 altogether. But rather, we should be using sperm producing or egg producing or XY slash XX individual 0.99

00:27:43.640 to avoid, quote, emphasizing heteronormative view. So this is coming to a hospital near you. And this

00:27:50.880 isn't just like a funny language change. I mean, this is going to have a consequence on our understanding

00:27:55.240 of reality. That's the point, right? That's why we call them birthing persons instead of instead of 0.86

00:28:01.220 mothers or just pregnant women. The whole point is to try to erase these lines that are drawn in the

00:28:07.920 sand by reality itself and try to make everything ambiguous in a gray area. It's it's it's a deliberate

00:28:12.560 strategy. You know, you control the words to be able to control people's perceptions of reality and break

00:28:18.020 down their understanding of what what actually is objectively true and real. And that's why the word

00:28:23.240 game is so important. They recognize that so much. We battle with it so much. You know, the whole

00:28:27.540 conversation about abortion being health care, for example, calling it health care over and over and

00:28:31.840 over again, even though it's a procedure that results in the death of a person. I mean, this is

00:28:36.720 they understand that words matter and that they can really, really leverage the manipulation of what

00:28:43.140 words mean in order to further their ends. So getting past it, like breaking through all of that

00:28:48.120 and insisting on what reality actually is, is extremely important in those dialogues.

00:28:51.760 Yeah. You mentioned the Biden administration is in support of this. You'll probably remember this

00:28:57.020 story. It was a couple of months ago now, but now it's back in the news. According to Fox,

00:29:01.760 non-binary former Biden official Sam Britton accused of serial luggage theft released without

00:29:07.940 bail. So if people don't remember this guy, he was a part of the Department of Energy who was a real

00:29:12.800 weirdo. OK, so he wasn't just someone who was like, whatever, I'm quiet about my identity. He was

00:29:17.440 also like some BDSM instructor, weird stuff. I don't even want to get into some of the pictures that

00:29:23.960 were on his Instagram that were circulating on Twitter. OK, please don't. Please don't show them.

00:29:28.540 Oh, no, I would never. A real creep and a weirdo. OK, how he presented himself and his sexual

00:29:34.160 proclivities. Well, in unsurprising news, he apparently is also a klepto and he would go to 0.99

00:29:42.520 these different airports and he would take what looked like female luggage. So like Vera Bradley 1.00

00:29:48.820 luggage that he knew would be filled with women's clothing, he would take them and then he would go 0.97

00:29:53.700 to his hotel and I guess wear them. And then he was caught doing this not once, but twice. This was

00:29:59.220 once in Minnesota, once in Nevada. So he faces up to 10 years in prison, but he was just released

00:30:07.460 without bail. So I guess these are the kinds of absolute weirdos that are filling the Biden

00:30:12.660 administration and pushing them to embrace the castration of young boys. I'm interested. Have 0.91

00:30:19.460 you read the story? Like, what is the reason he has released that bit? Like, did someone not

00:30:22.780 choose to prosecute him? Like what what's going on there? Oh, let's see. Britain left the DOE soon

00:30:31.480 after the alleged thefts came to light. A reason for his departure was never made public, but the agency

00:30:35.720 had faced pressure from Republican lawmakers over his employment status and security clearance.

00:30:40.440 They didn't say anything about it. So, no, this this Fox report doesn't actually say why he was

00:30:45.620 released without bail. It just says that he was charged. But it says a judge ordered him not to

00:30:52.020 have any contact with any of the victims. He was slated to appear in court December 19th,

00:30:57.720 but the date was changed at the request of his lawyer. So it looks like he's just able to kind of

00:31:01.720 evade the consequences for this a little bit, maybe because he's has he has some connections or some

00:31:06.720 power. I guess I feel like I'd be going away for a long time if I was stealing women's luggage. 1.00

00:31:12.600 Yeah, probably so. You might lose your job, too. Yeah, but that I mean, the story with someone like

00:31:18.760 that just gets that much crazier. I mean, obviously, this is somebody that's got mental issues. 0.96

00:31:22.960 They really have mental issues. I mean, you know, the the kink and fetish stuff, whatever, 1.00

00:31:27.980 like people, it these things happen in people's private lives. This guy made it very public. It was all

00:31:33.780 very out there. And it was kind of a show. And it was it was just it was almost like his resume for

00:31:38.920 how he was getting ahead in life. Yeah. And I just think it's such a sad commentary on our culture

00:31:44.160 today that that that is that that kind of thing gives you some kind of a leg up or advantage in

00:31:48.320 jockeying for position in in high ranking government positions and opportunities. It's just it's

00:31:54.180 absolutely wild to me. And it's absolutely wild that that then on the back of that, you can engage

00:31:59.840 an actual this is felony theft. I'm sure these things were worth a decent amount of money, not just

00:32:03.960 the luggage, but the but the stuff that was inside the luggage and walking with no consequence. That's

00:32:09.180 just insane to me. Yeah. And it's just kind of a fetish for him. It's not an identity. But I think part

00:32:14.980 of this whole movement is making a fetish and identity, which is really scary. Well, we talked about how

00:32:19.960 this kind of subverts our understanding of reality. And one of the scary things is that sometimes you can't

00:32:24.380 actually tell if someone is transgender, you can't tell the difference between a man and a woman. I think 0.98

00:32:29.520 that also is very, I mean, it's consequential, it's scary. And this is one of those cases, I'll play you this

00:32:35.940 video, it's really hard for me to tell who in this video is actually transgender, what's really going on. So

00:32:42.760 here's that. My name is Amber Mumm, I use she her pronouns. I'm a member of the St. Cloud Hive of the

00:32:50.600 Parents and Allies of Trans Youth. I am also a proud gender transgender woman. But more importantly,

00:32:56.260 I am the mother of two wonderful transgender and gender expansive children. That is the mother of

00:33:01.000 two gender expansive children who I'm sure came to that conclusion completely naturally because

00:33:06.860 their dainty mother had absolutely nothing to do with it, right? 0.96

00:33:11.940 I think I retweeted you when you posted this. And I was like, yeah, I'm sure this is just a

00:33:15.880 coincidence that this individual ended up with transgender children. And I'm kind of like I'm

00:33:20.120 smiling or smirking as I'm saying this, but it's like, I'm checking myself because it's not funny.

00:33:25.220 It's not funny that you have someone like this who's raising children to be confused about who

00:33:29.420 they are, and then affirming them in their confusion so that they end up damaging themselves

00:33:34.380 for life. There's nothing funny about that. And the picture itself of the person up there, this,

00:33:40.240 you know, massive man saying I have she her pronouns, and I'm a woman. I mean, that on the surface

00:33:45.700 is itself funny. But but what's going on in the home there is not funny at all.

00:33:50.780 Yeah, I think we talked about this last time. But I was thinking about this just to kind of bring

00:33:55.600 this all full circle with the difficulty that it is to like be in comedy and satire right now with

00:34:01.160 how absurd reality is. But like we're being told to look at that person, call them a woman. So we are

00:34:07.940 not only denying reality, what we see with our own eyes, what we know, not just about science, we don't

00:34:12.640 have to know that person's chromosomes to know that that's a man. So we're told to deny reality

00:34:16.780 or basic observations. But we're also being told to deny comedy. Like how, how long has the trope

00:34:24.520 existed of a fat man in a dress? Like that's, that's been funny for a very long time, probably

00:34:30.860 for 1000s of years, as long as comedy has existed, like a man dressing up as a woman has been funny,

00:34:37.080 a fat man dressing up as a woman has been funny. Mrs. Doubtfire was funny, but literally, 0.90

00:34:42.300 probably all of human history, this has been funny, because we've all known that it's absurd.

00:34:46.560 And we've all been able to laugh at it. Even white chicks was funny, because men can't look like 1.00

00:34:51.840 women. Women can kind of make themselves look more masculine and look like men. But men, no matter how 0.97

00:34:57.000 handsome you are as a man, you look like a really ugly woman. And we were all able to laugh at that. 1.00

00:35:01.460 That's a funny comedic trope. But now we're not only told to deny reality, but we have to deny comedy

00:35:07.080 and say, Oh, no, that's not funny at all. And that I think is a big cultural sacrifice that

00:35:13.320 we're making in all of this too. Yeah, well, I mean, the idea that you shouldn't be able to laugh

00:35:18.520 at it, because it's hurtful, because there's someone who's the butt of the joke or whatever.

00:35:23.040 You know, what's funny about I think some of the examples that are the most funny are when you still

00:35:27.060 have the male characteristics that are retained while they're wearing the dress, you know, like you

00:35:30.900 have a man in a dress, but he's got hairy legs and facial hair or whatever. And a lot of the a lot

00:35:35.280 of the trans people these days are retaining a lot of their male characteristics while dressing 1.00

00:35:40.460 as women, you'll see them wearing they'll have a beard, they'll have facial hair, but they'll put 1.00

00:35:44.360 on makeup. And it's like, and they're trying to just give these like confusing mixed signals. Like

00:35:49.080 I'm not in either camp, I'm in both or something like that. And it is it is it is silly. And it is 0.96

00:35:54.180 funny. And there is a comic element to it. And you should be able to laugh about it. I just I think

00:35:59.000 it's really strange. You know, with the point that I like to make about this, this idea that the reason

00:36:03.800 they say that you shouldn't be able to joke about these things, you can't laugh about them is because

00:36:07.280 this is a marginalized community. And marginalized communities should always be off limits for 1.00

00:36:12.360 comedy. And well, you know, I do think that there's something to be said about like, it's not right to

00:36:17.980 kick someone when they're down and being in and making jokes at someone's expense just to be mean

00:36:22.500 and cruel is kind of cruel, you know, like telling like mocking and scorning a fat person for being fat 0.98

00:36:28.660 and overweight in a really mean, bullying, harsh way is just nasty. There's no real comedic

00:36:33.440 value to doing that necessarily. So I get that. But this idea that this is a marginalized community. I mean,

00:36:40.740 if you think of what the word marginalized means, to be marginalized is to be a social outcast. To be

00:36:46.360 marginalized is to have no power or influence. To be marginalized is to be forgotten. That is not what this

00:36:52.400 community represents. This community has all the power, all the influence. They're anything but forgotten. If

00:36:59.420 anything, this messaging is just shoved into our face from every direction from the top down. And so

00:37:05.300 to try to characterize this group as a marginalized community that should be off limits, the point that

00:37:09.340 I make is, this is the power structure. These are the powers that be telling us what we should think,

00:37:14.460 what we should feel, what we can say. This is the stuff that comedians are supposed to make fun of.

00:37:18.840 It's our job to make fun of that stuff. And that is punching up. That's punching up at the powers that be.

00:37:25.400 So it's really the one thing that they should be defending as the comedian's right to make fun of, but it's the

00:37:30.540 one thing they're saying we're not allowed to make fun of. It's absolutely insane.

00:37:44.360 And you're not even really making fun of the individual because you could say that that person is a man and a

00:37:50.480 great man and a person made in the image of God. You're making fun of the idea. You're making fun of the concept.

00:37:55.400 You're making fun of how absurd it is that we have to deny all of this and to pretend something that's

00:38:00.140 real that we know isn't. And so I think you're right. It is punching up. Like, these are the

00:38:04.560 people that get you kicked off Twitter. These are the people that make it harder for you to be

00:38:08.560 employed. These are the people that are policing your speech. Like, the people that you can't make

00:38:12.480 fun of are actually the people with all of the power and the people that you should be making fun of.

00:38:17.040 Which is why y'all do what you do.

00:38:19.240 They have the power to silence you. They have the power to silence you for just simply joking about them.

00:38:23.480 So, Ali, I don't have that power. You can say whatever you want about me. You can trash me all

00:38:28.520 you want. Like, you can be really mean and harsh. And I have no power to do anything about it. I lack 0.99

00:38:33.980 that power. I have to just take it. So, you know, to be in a position where you have that power or anything

00:38:40.260 but marginalized.

00:38:40.800 I do bully you on Twitter and I haven't been kicked off yet. So, that's true.

00:38:44.260 I could text Elon about that, but I won't.

00:38:46.280 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Well, thanks for allowing us to laugh through the absurdity. I do

00:38:51.100 think, like, I know that Babylon Bee tells jokes, but it's more than jokes. Gosh, when everything is

00:38:56.960 so serious and so morose and everything seems upside down, it is nice to have such a powerful comedic

00:39:04.020 entity on our side telling the truth in a way that I think is super effective. Not everyone likes it.

00:39:09.820 I got my invitation rescinded from a church conference because of my DNC ad, which was

00:39:17.240 satirical. So, not everyone likes it, but I think it's an important tool. So, thank you for keeping

00:39:22.980 at it.

00:39:23.840 Thank you. Yeah. You know, I think there's an importance. I think comedy has a role to play

00:39:29.120 in communicating the truth. And I think that one of the most important things that we need to keep

00:39:34.240 our sights on is, you know, in this post-truth, safe space culture where everything is about you,

00:39:41.920 you know, like everything is about your feelings and how important your feelings are and how,

00:39:45.420 and you have this, um, this right to never be offended or anything like that. That is such an

00:39:51.360 unhealthy spiritual place to be in. I think the much healthier place to be in is to be able to say,

00:39:55.380 look, I have pride, personal pride. And sometimes my pride is pricked when someone like makes a joke

00:40:01.840 at my expense, but that's okay. Like I shouldn't think so highly of myself. We need to think,

00:40:07.060 we need to think of ourselves less, not in the sense that like we think less of ourselves,

00:40:11.240 but we just think of ourselves less. We don't put ourselves up on this pedestal where, uh,

00:40:16.860 no one should be able to touch us or criticize us or anything. We're all imperfect. We're all

00:40:20.860 sinful. We all make mistakes. We're all hypocrites and we should all be willing to laugh at ourselves.

00:40:25.360 That's a healthy thing. And so when comedy is willing to actually make jokes that do sometimes 0.64

00:40:30.580 make you squirm and make you a little bit uncomfortable, it's not necessarily mean and

00:40:33.900 cruel. Sometimes it's good for you. Yeah, I agree. I think it is really healthy. And that's an

00:40:37.980 important point you made about the spiritual part of it too. Well, Seth, thanks so much. I hope y'all

00:40:42.080 have an amazing event, live event for the Babylon Bee. Um, for the people who are listening to this,

00:40:47.560 who are going to be there, what can they expect? Are they going to have the time of their lives?

00:40:53.460 I don't know about that. Um, it is going to be fun. I don't want to give away too much,

00:40:57.820 but yeah, we're going to have some live sketch comedy on the stage. Um, you're going to see some

00:41:02.220 videos that we've never released before. We're going to talk about some of our future plans.

00:41:06.040 Mostly it's just going to be time for us to get to spend FaceTime with our fans. We've never done

00:41:10.440 that before where we have the whole crew together in one place. So I think it'll be a fun night.

00:41:15.400 Maybe the time of your life if you're a diehard Babylon Bee fan, but who knows? Maybe, uh, even if

00:41:20.980 you're not. Awesome. Well, thanks so much, Seth. I appreciate you taking the time to come on.

00:41:24.740 Thank you, Ali.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - February 23, 2023

Ep 760 ｜ Whistleblower Exposes Horrors at Gender Clinic ｜ Guest： Seth Dillon

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