Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 766 ｜ The Gospel Coalition’s Scandalous Sex Article

00:00:00.000 The Gospel Coalition published, then removed what some are calling a very scandalous article

00:00:07.120 arguing that sex is a symbol of the gospel.

00:00:11.880 I have a lot of thoughts on that.

00:00:14.840 Also, a pastor in Canada is facing jail time for protesting Drag Queen Story Hour.

00:00:21.540 Why aren't more prominent Christians talking about this and similar stories around the

00:00:26.780 world?

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00:00:43.880 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:45.840 Happy Tuesday.

00:00:47.120 Hope everyone is having a wonderful week.

00:00:48.920 Hope you had a great weekend.

00:00:50.640 We had a pre-recorded episode yesterday, Q&A.

00:00:53.540 It's a quick episode, fun episode.

00:00:54.960 You guys asked me a lot of good questions.

00:00:57.700 As I said last week, or I guess yesterday on the pre-recorded episode, I was in California

00:01:02.680 on Sunday, Monday.

00:01:05.800 I was actually in Florida last week for a speaking engagement.

00:01:08.660 Got to bring part of my family then.

00:01:10.120 Got to bring part of my family to California.

00:01:11.840 So that was fun.

00:01:13.200 Florida was great.

00:01:13.940 I was talking to a pro-life organization, Christian organization, and I love being around people

00:01:19.840 like that and getting to encourage them because you're just reminded of the good work that

00:01:24.260 the Lord is doing that doesn't always make headlines and just how many genuine and generous

00:01:28.700 Christians there are out there who care so much about the least of these, who care so 0.99

00:01:32.760 much about the most vulnerable.

00:01:33.880 It is an honor and a privilege to be able to use whatever words the Lord gives me to

00:01:38.940 be able to inspire them and to tell them that what they're doing is worth it.

00:01:42.380 And then I got to speak for California Family Council on Sunday and then Monday at their

00:01:50.020 pro-life rally on Monday and then at an event that they had on Sunday night.

00:01:54.620 And again, just got to encourage.

00:01:56.500 I mean, California Christian conservatives, obviously they feel like they're up against a lot, but

00:02:01.400 something that I said that I really feel like the Holy Spirit gave to me in the moment is

00:02:05.580 that if the gospel was strong enough, was powerful enough to be able to strengthen Christians under

00:02:15.600 Nero, it is powerful and effective enough to strengthen Christians under Newsom. 0.97

00:02:23.500 I said it better in the speech, but it's the general sentiment is the same, that Christians

00:02:30.880 before us have had even bigger obstacles, even nastier tyrants, even more bloodthirsty

00:02:37.920 politicians, bigger challenges than the ones we are facing today and still do throughout

00:02:45.500 the world have bigger challenges than the one that we're facing.

00:02:49.220 And the same gospel brought them to the end.

00:02:52.620 The same Holy Spirit empowered them.

00:02:54.860 The same Jesus emboldened them. 0.84

00:02:56.640 And the same father protected them with their presence.

00:03:00.400 And so if they can do it, if Christians before us have been carrying this torch for the past 0.97

00:03:06.460 2000 years on behalf of the gospel, on behalf of the most vulnerable, then we can continue

00:03:12.240 to do that today.

00:03:13.900 So that's what the past few days of my life have been about.

00:03:16.960 Just speaking to Christians who kind of needed that encouragement.

00:03:19.240 So thankful, so thankful for everyone that I met out there who's listening to this podcast.

00:03:24.460 Maybe you're listening for the first time because you heard me speak or you, or you met me, or

00:03:29.400 maybe you've been a longtime listener and it's always great to meet you guys in person.

00:03:32.920 So thanks so much for coming and thank you all also for being here.

00:03:37.420 So, um, also, oh, one thing I wanted to say too, just to encourage you.

00:03:41.980 So I was giving my speech on the steps of the Capitol in Sacramento, California, just talking

00:03:47.140 about the importance of defying or pushing back as much as we can against the legislation

00:03:52.500 coming down the pipeline in California that literally legalizes infanticide.

00:03:56.820 And some are going to, um, try to basically close down pregnancy centers by opening them

00:04:04.100 up to all of these frivolous and ridiculous lawsuits.

00:04:06.820 And so as I was, as I was talking, it was a very quick speech yesterday.

00:04:11.120 I had, you know, counter protesters in the back and they had their emergency sirens that

00:04:16.680 were very loud.

00:04:17.600 They're screaming and they're shouting, of course, trying to drown out any of the, any

00:04:22.740 of the speakers words.

00:04:24.040 And so, um, thankfully the speakers were the speakers themselves, not the speaker, me speaking,

00:04:29.680 but the, you know, the speakers amplifying the sound were very loud.

00:04:33.220 And so I also got to go up and just thank them and say, you know what?

00:04:36.540 I think that you guys are playing sirens back there because you realize what an emergency

00:04:40.500 it is that California allows abortion through all nine months of pregnancy.

00:04:45.900 I don't think that they appreciated that, um, very much, but again, thank, thank all of

00:04:52.220 you who came out there courageously, who took the time to come out there and rally for

00:04:56.960 the sake of the unborn.

00:04:57.860 That kind of fight is always worth it.

00:05:00.300 All right.

00:05:00.620 We're going to get into this gospel coalition story.

00:05:03.220 I'm not going to be able to talk about it as much as I want to, because we've got a

00:05:06.160 lot of ground to cover with the other stories that we're talking about, but I'll tell you

00:05:09.420 my surprising, I think you'll find a surprising opinion on this.

00:05:23.800 All right.

00:05:24.420 So the gospel coalition, big Christian website, you guys are familiar.

00:05:28.520 They released an article by Josh Butler, and it was actually an excerpt from the intro of

00:05:33.320 his forthcoming book called beautiful union.

00:05:36.180 So in this excerpt that was posted as an article, Butler argues that sex is not salvation.

00:05:42.780 So in it, he argues that sex is not salvation, but points to salvation.

00:05:47.840 He said that he used to look for sex, um, to sex, to basically save him, to make him whole.

00:05:54.120 And he realized that this was never going to happen.

00:05:56.740 But he also argues that he realizes that sex points to the one who does fully satisfy you,

00:06:02.640 which is Christ.

00:06:03.360 It points to the gospel.

00:06:04.380 So he says the sexual act between a man and a woman within marriage is an icon of salvation. 0.79

00:06:10.480 It is representative of salvation.

00:06:13.060 It's a metaphor for it.

00:06:14.280 It shows the relationship between Christ and the church.

00:06:17.880 So he says some things in this article that are pretty graphic, more graphic than I think

00:06:23.120 a lot of Christians are willing to go on this.

00:06:25.880 And I'll quote some things from it.

00:06:27.320 So just know kind of where this is going.

00:06:29.760 So generosity and hospitality, he says, are both embodied in the sexual act.

00:06:35.860 Generosity involves giving extravagantly to someone.

00:06:38.060 And what deeper form of self-giving is there than sexual union, where the husband pours out

00:06:43.120 his very presence, not only upon, but within his wife.

00:06:46.980 Hospitality, on the other hand, involves receiving the life of the other.

00:06:51.260 Here again, what deeper form of hospitality is there than sexual union, where the wife welcomes 1.00

00:06:56.020 her husband into the sanctuary of her very self?

00:07:00.020 He talks about during a honeymoon, the groom goes into his bride. 0.89

00:07:03.540 He is not only with his beloved, but within his beloved.

00:07:06.120 He enters the sanctuary of his spouse, where he pours out his deepest presence and bestows

00:07:10.560 an offering, a gift, a sign of his pilgrimage that has the potential to grow within her into

00:07:18.000 new life.

00:07:20.020 He says, this is a picture of the gospel.

00:07:22.440 The bride gladly receives the warmth of his presence and accepts the sacrificial offering

00:07:26.880 he bestows upon the altar within her most holy place.

00:07:30.720 So he doesn't say it's actually much less explicit than he could be.

00:07:34.580 Obviously, he is using the metaphor and he is hoping that we understand the mechanics of

00:07:41.680 sex to pick up on what he is putting down. 0.50

00:07:46.380 So they published this because he is a fellow in a new fellowship program, which is the, let's

00:07:55.080 see, what's it called?

00:07:56.120 The Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics.

00:08:01.040 He is a fellow in that new program that was established by the Gospel Coalition.

00:08:06.880 So that's why they published this excerpt.

00:08:09.460 And there was immediate backlash from the conservative side that said, OK, this is weird.

00:08:13.680 This is weird.

00:08:14.300 This is too erotic.

00:08:15.340 It's too graphic.

00:08:16.340 It's just too much.

00:08:17.780 And then you saw from the progressive side, too patriarchal.

00:08:21.320 This is exploitative of women. 1.00

00:08:24.260 This is insensitive toward women. 1.00

00:08:26.260 This is not considering the victimhood throughout history of women. 0.57

00:08:31.800 And this is simply bad theology.

00:08:34.680 So Beth Allison Barr, she's a professor and she's an author.

00:08:37.780 She says that I really think the TGC should do some self-reflection about why they thought

00:08:41.840 that article was OK to publish.

00:08:43.820 It reveals so much that is deeply wrong with complementarian ideas about women.

00:08:48.000 Complementarian means that men and women are equal in worth, but they have different roles

00:08:52.940 within marriage, within the church.

00:08:54.240 Obviously, I am complementarian.

00:08:56.160 I believe that that's biblical versus egalitarian, which means that men and women can actually

00:09:00.780 have the same roles within marriage and within the church, which I think is profoundly unbiblical 0.97

00:09:05.500 in a lot of ways, that they perceive women as passive objects and men as sexual overlords.

00:09:11.440 When this article is put in context of what male leaders who ascribe to complementarian theology

00:09:15.900 are taught, Jonathan Pakluda, wow, we've had him on this podcast, and I think that he's

00:09:20.660 great.

00:09:21.260 His objectification of a woman makes so much sense. 0.99

00:09:23.960 I hope he considers that, too.

00:09:26.180 I don't know what she's referencing there.

00:09:28.700 Jacob Denhollander says, he says, basically, he argues that this article teaches the objectification

00:09:37.120 of women, the sacralizing of male orgasm, likening the Holy Spirit to redacted, and the spiritualization 0.74

00:09:45.600 of andro-centric sex. 0.97

00:09:51.440 And then we've got Sheila Grigori. 0.65

00:09:53.740 She wrote a book called The Great Sex Rescue.

00:09:58.180 She takes issue, again, with the objectification and the patriarchal themes that she sees inherent

00:10:03.080 in this article.

00:10:04.280 She says the problem is that the Keller Center has five female fellows and 22 male fellows.

00:10:10.580 At TGC 2023, only 17 of the 90 speakers are female.

00:10:15.240 All eight keynote speakers are male.

00:10:17.100 So she sees that as part of the problem, again, kind of patriarchy.

00:10:20.580 So after this pushback, TGC actually took down the article.

00:10:24.140 They issued a statement, and they said, you know, we've listened to our critics and the

00:10:29.040 objections, and we've taken it down.

00:10:31.500 And we accepted Josh's resignation as a Keller Center fellow.

00:10:37.180 They ask for forgiveness.

00:10:38.920 They thank them for accountability.

00:10:40.800 They say thank you so much for being patient with us.

00:10:44.120 And then he also had some people who had previously endorsed his book say, you know what?

00:10:49.120 I don't.

00:10:49.880 I don't endorse your book anymore.

00:10:51.480 So Rich Viotas, he's a New York pastor.

00:10:53.600 He is very progressive, very social justice centric.

00:10:57.040 He issued this long statement saying, you know, I don't.

00:11:00.260 I know I issued an endorsement for this book, but I don't actually endorse the book.

00:11:05.340 I didn't read the whole book.

00:11:06.740 So that's the problem.

00:11:08.440 And after hearing people's criticisms and reflecting on it, I realized that it's not just wrong,

00:11:13.340 but it's actually dangerous.

00:11:15.220 His statements were actually dangerous.

00:11:18.840 Now, the interesting thing about Rich Viotas is that he wrote a book.

00:11:26.520 He wrote a book that argued a very similar thing.

00:11:33.300 He says this in his book, The Deeply Formed Life.

00:11:37.360 And this is according to, by the way, Stive and Peter at The American Reformer, who talks

00:11:42.380 about the reaction to this TGC article.

00:11:45.680 He says, what makes Viotas' retraction instructive for demonstrating the dynamics of the negative

00:11:50.140 world is that Viotas and Butler share virtually identical positions on sex. 0.98

00:11:54.440 Viotas has also written a book on cultural apologetics, The Deeply Formed Life, in which

00:11:58.900 he has a chapter on sex.

00:12:00.260 He calls sex a sacrament.

00:12:01.700 Lovemaking in and outside the bedroom is a revelation.

00:12:04.060 What does it reveal?

00:12:04.900 Well, without overstating it, it reveals God.

00:12:06.820 It is sacramental.

00:12:07.580 Our lovemaking is to manifest our union with each other, and in so doing, manifest God's

00:12:11.260 union to the world.

00:12:13.240 So Peter says this, though Viotas is not as graphic as Butler, the same concepts are present

00:12:17.640 and working.

00:12:18.260 Butler uses icon, Viotas uses a sacrament.

00:12:21.460 But both want to capture that sex reveals something about the divine.

00:12:25.360 Jesus initiates by giving his body to the church in self-giving love.

00:12:29.260 Per Ephesians 5, the man is the head of the marriage who gives himself to his wife, 0.94

00:12:32.680 and this love is self-giving and generative.

00:12:34.260 To be clear, Butler and Viotas believe the same things about how the sexual act reveals

00:12:39.180 God and mirrors the pattern of initiation and reception between Christ and the church.

00:12:44.440 In fact, Viotas says this, moreover, lovemaking is an act of mission.

00:12:47.660 When a couple is in love, giving and receiving each other in bodily, emotional, and spiritual

00:12:51.020 communion, they can't help but overflow in love to the world around them.

00:12:55.840 So he basically argues the same thing as Josh Butler does, but he retracted his endorsement

00:13:01.700 because he got pressure from progressive feminist activists who said that this is patriarchal

00:13:07.700 and somehow anti-woman.

00:13:09.840 Roger, he also wrote an article about this in the American Conservative.

00:13:15.500 And basically, he says that the reaction to this by evangelicals is totally overblown.

00:13:20.680 And let me just say, because I haven't revealed my opinion yet, but you can probably pick up

00:13:24.000 on it by my tone.

00:13:24.840 I happen to agree. 0.96

00:13:25.800 I think the reaction to this on both the left and the right is absolutely overblown and ridiculous. 0.65

00:13:33.020 Someone sent me this article and was like, oh my gosh, have you seen this? 0.80

00:13:35.560 This is so cringe from the TGC.

00:13:37.860 Let me just tell you, I read it and I was like, what?

00:13:42.360 I mean, yeah, it's more graphic than I would like.

00:13:44.540 Of course, I wouldn't have thought of that or written that article.

00:13:47.440 I probably wouldn't have gone that in depth.

00:13:49.620 But this is a book about sex.

00:13:52.300 And this person, you might not like his argument.

00:13:54.000 You might not agree with his argument, but I do not agree with the people saying this

00:13:57.900 is too erotic, maybe clumsy in some ways.

00:14:00.620 Again, maybe a little bit.

00:14:02.900 I mean, enough to make me a little uncomfortable.

00:14:05.500 But are we really so prudish that we cannot talk about sex like this?

00:14:09.580 I mean, he makes a really good point.

00:14:11.080 Josh Butler, in his article that the Bible is actually very explicit. 0.90

00:14:14.980 Like the Hebrew word for sex is he went into her. 0.92

00:14:18.640 Much more explicit than we are when we use our euphemisms like lovemaking and sleeping together 0.54

00:14:23.300 and having sex, which is all fine, by the way.

00:14:25.840 I think those are fine euphemisms. 0.74

00:14:27.200 But he's making the point that the Bible is actually very explicit about what sex is

00:14:32.060 and that that is a representation of Christian marriage and not just Christian marriage,

00:14:36.640 but the joining in of a man and a woman as one flesh, which is indicative of sex.

00:14:43.520 And he is saying, just as Ephesians 5 argues, that marriage in its own mysterious way is a representation

00:14:52.280 of Christ and the church.

00:14:54.880 The husband representative of Christ, the wife representative of the church, 1.00

00:15:00.480 just as Christ laid down his life for the church.

00:15:03.960 So a husband is to lay down his life for his wife in many different ways. 0.62

00:15:09.240 And the wife is to submit to her husband as to the Lord. 0.93

00:15:13.500 Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church.

00:15:18.000 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 0.72

00:15:20.220 That's what the end of Ephesians 5 tells us.

00:15:23.040 And he is saying that that's not just true in just the relationship dynamics there.

00:15:26.540 That is also true of the sexual act.

00:15:29.420 That is also innate in the sexual act.

00:15:31.820 Now, there's a lot of interesting debates about this.

00:15:33.980 People who are much more theologically savvy than me and who know more about the interpretation

00:15:39.620 and exegesis of the Bible disagree with his theology when it comes to this.

00:15:43.920 So I'm open to those debates.

00:15:45.800 But I agree in general that absolutely not just the marriage relationship,

00:15:49.780 but the dynamic of sex between a man and a woman in that marriage relationship

00:15:55.380 is actually reflective of in particular ways of Christ in the church.

00:16:01.040 Absolutely.

00:16:01.480 And Rod Rear wrote this article basically saying to evangelicals not understand this

00:16:05.460 because he says that Catholic and Orthodox theology recognize sex as some kind of icon

00:16:10.620 and representation of Christ in the church.

00:16:15.500 So why are evangelicals confused about this?

00:16:18.220 And then Denny Burke, he wrote an article defending complementarianism

00:16:23.900 since people have been attacking complementarianism and complementarian theology because of this.

00:16:28.960 And I think that his article on this is really good, by the way.

00:16:37.540 And he talks about the importance of the complementarian dynamic.

00:16:43.280 He looks at 1 Corinthians 11, 9, Ephesians 5, 20, 25,

00:16:47.520 and how this is displayed in Christ's sacrificial death and resurrection.

00:16:54.580 And he says that TGC's apology should have clarified these issues,

00:16:59.040 confronted problems in Butler's article, affirmed scripture's husband-wife typology,

00:17:02.920 and rejected the accusations against complementarian theology.

00:17:05.900 He's absolutely right.

00:17:06.860 Because TGC's theology, you don't really know what they're apologizing for.

00:17:10.340 You don't really know what they're apologizing for.

00:17:12.300 You're kind of confused about it.

00:17:14.040 You're kind of like, wait, are you saying that this was patriarchal,

00:17:17.500 that this was anti-woman in some way, which I really don't read at all?

00:17:23.060 So I honestly, like, I did not have the same issues with this article that people on the left

00:17:29.460 and the right did.

00:17:30.360 Again, I'm not sure that it was all completely theologically solid,

00:17:34.880 but people, honestly, you need to get a grip a little bit.

00:17:38.180 But it's okay for people to write things that are, I mean,

00:17:42.080 it's okay for people to write things that we don't like, right?

00:17:46.200 But the TGC absolutely should have done a better job at responding to this.

00:17:50.120 And I do think that this is like cancel culture, by the way. 0.57

00:17:53.580 I do.

00:17:54.220 And I don't think it's wrong for people to be canceled for right reasons.

00:17:56.780 I just think this person is canceled for wrong reasons.

00:17:59.060 I'm sure that there are things that we disagree on theologically, by the way.

00:18:02.220 The fact that he had Rich Viotas as someone who was endorsing his book

00:18:05.720 means that he's probably actually progressive in a lot of ways.

00:18:10.060 However, I just really, I just really think that he was mistreated in this instance.

00:18:16.560 And I think that the reaction to this article is absolutely, absolutely overblown.

00:18:31.240 All right.

00:18:32.000 Now let's talk about that Canadian pastor that was recently arrested

00:18:36.380 for protesting a drag queen story hour.

00:18:41.980 The fact that those four words can even go together.

00:18:46.260 And we all understand what we're talking about,

00:18:48.860 that there is such thing as a drag queen story hour,

00:18:52.280 where men are dressed up as caricatures of women,

00:18:57.400 scantily clad women, reading books to children,

00:19:01.720 in some cases, dancing before children for money.

00:19:05.320 The fact that that is even a thing that we discuss on a fairly regular basis,

00:19:10.860 because it is so pervasive in the United States and in Canada

00:19:14.880 and in other Western countries,

00:19:17.900 that alone is disturbing enough for us to say,

00:19:21.180 please, Jesus, have mercy on us.

00:19:24.180 Come back.

00:19:24.780 We have fallen so far.

00:19:27.800 Ask not, as I've heard people say,

00:19:30.160 I think this is maybe even a direct quote from Calvin Robinson,

00:19:33.320 although many of us have said this in different ways,

00:19:36.300 but I like how he says it.

00:19:37.860 Ask not why children want to see drag queens perform. 1.00

00:19:44.580 Ask yourself rather why drag queens want an audience of children. 1.00

00:19:49.860 There is no innocuous, there is no non-perverted reason for a grown man to want to dress in fishnets

00:20:00.300 and sometimes a thong and in fake boobs and present themselves to children. 1.00

00:20:06.000 There is no non-pedophilic reason for that.

00:20:10.300 And, you know, I've been thinking about this before we even get into the story,

00:20:13.120 but I've been thinking about, you know,

00:20:14.380 the parental rights movement that we have in the United States,

00:20:17.680 that thankfully has been led by a lot of conservative moms and dads

00:20:20.660 who have taken over school boards,

00:20:22.020 who have said, you know, the state is not our co-parent

00:20:24.660 and public schools don't get a say in how we raise our children. 0.96

00:20:30.740 They're not going to indoctrinate our children with a worldview

00:20:34.420 that is counter to the one that we have,

00:20:36.140 which, by the way, that is just inherent in public school.

00:20:39.100 But parents saying, no,

00:20:40.740 we have a right to be the authority

00:20:42.940 and to be the primary influence in our child's life.

00:20:45.800 I think that's great.

00:20:47.380 But something that we say is that parents know what is best for their children.

00:20:51.520 And in general, I do believe that parents do what is best for their children.

00:20:57.320 But maybe it's more accurate to say that parents do what they believe is best

00:21:01.780 for their children,

00:21:03.180 because obviously looking at these videos that I see every single week posted,

00:21:08.180 not just from Libs of TikTok, 0.63

00:21:09.540 but other conservative commentators and journalists

00:21:11.800 showing parents willingly, voluntarily, cheerfully bringing their children

00:21:17.200 to these kinds of performances,

00:21:18.720 not just story hours,

00:21:19.720 but again, bringing them to restaurants

00:21:21.780 where these scantily clad men are twerking for money.

00:21:25.320 I think, you know, I'm not sure that that's really true.

00:21:30.240 I'm not sure that it's true that parents in general

00:21:33.980 or that all parents do what is best for their children.

00:21:37.920 Like, obviously, we know that there are abusive parents,

00:21:40.800 there are manipulative parents,

00:21:42.140 there are really bad parents out there,

00:21:43.800 but we see them as this tiny, tiny exception.

00:21:47.980 But then when you see these parents totally shamelessly 0.83

00:21:52.100 presenting their children sexual exploitation 0.97

00:21:56.960 and in a particular way, sexual predation, 0.74

00:22:01.960 damaging their innocence purposely,

00:22:04.700 I'm just not so sure that we can say confidently

00:22:09.720 that parents are doing what is best for their children.

00:22:16.000 I think good parents do what is best for their children.

00:22:18.720 I don't think that we can say parents in general

00:22:20.780 are doing what's best for their children.

00:22:22.200 I mean, think about all of the parents

00:22:23.580 who I'm sure love their children

00:22:25.340 and are trying to do what's best for their children,

00:22:27.840 but think about all of the parents

00:22:29.000 that masked their 18-month-old to their two-year-old

00:22:31.880 who still do so in the name of trying to protect their health,

00:22:36.220 even after all the data has come out,

00:22:38.060 not really because they care so much about their child

00:22:40.720 not getting COVID or not spreading COVID,

00:22:42.720 but because they've been told

00:22:43.860 that this is what it looks like to be virtuous.

00:22:47.120 I mean, I'm just not so sure

00:22:49.040 we can trust the discernment and the judgment of parents,

00:22:51.820 especially those that are taking their kids

00:22:53.740 to drag queen story hour.

00:22:56.920 So what, I mean, what exactly do we do about that?

00:22:59.580 Because at the end of the day, that's the issue, right?

00:23:03.280 I don't think that there would be a supply

00:23:05.340 of drag queen story hour.

00:23:06.660 I don't think that there would be a supply

00:23:08.000 of these all-ages drag shows

00:23:10.920 if there wasn't a demand, right?

00:23:13.240 If there weren't parents that were bringing their kids

00:23:16.280 to these shows and saying,

00:23:18.160 yes, this is well and good,

00:23:19.240 this is what I want for my kids.

00:23:21.880 That's a problem.

00:23:22.720 That's a much bigger problem.

00:23:24.400 That's a much bigger problem.

00:23:25.500 There's always going to be some perverts out there 0.83

00:23:28.100 who want to twerk for kids, unfortunately.

00:23:30.500 I think it should be illegal.

00:23:32.780 Absolutely.

00:23:34.280 But why are there parents who even allow that?

00:23:38.100 Why aren't all parents absolutely appalled by that?

00:23:40.500 If all parents were appalled by that,

00:23:42.280 it just wouldn't be happening.

00:23:43.740 It simply would not be happening.

00:23:45.420 But because there is apparently

00:23:46.820 a pretty large cohort of parents

00:23:48.600 who think that that is worth celebration,

00:23:51.480 we've got it.

00:23:53.240 We have to look at it.

00:23:54.460 We have to talk about it.

00:23:55.740 So what exactly do we do about that?

00:23:59.420 I don't know.

00:24:00.280 I guess just like every other problem,

00:24:02.240 it goes back to exchanging the God of Scripture

00:24:04.120 for the God of self.

00:24:05.420 It goes back to calling the truth a lie,

00:24:09.100 calling good evil an evil good,

00:24:11.320 and there really needs to be a reawakening.

00:24:13.260 But there certainly needs to be.

00:24:15.580 There certainly needs to be legal restrictions

00:24:18.300 on this kind of thing.

00:24:19.260 And thankfully, conservative states like Tennessee,

00:24:22.320 Florida, they're waking up to that reality.

00:24:24.080 I mean, the parents obviously aren't stepping in

00:24:26.880 and protecting these children.

00:24:28.220 So someone has to and says,

00:24:30.180 you know what?

00:24:30.640 It's illegal.

00:24:31.380 It's illegal to do this.

00:24:32.380 And this pastor in Canada recognizes

00:24:34.380 the absolute perversion and the depravity

00:24:37.420 in doing something like this.

00:24:38.680 He recognizes the dereliction of duty

00:24:40.700 that is represented by these parents

00:24:42.340 who are sending these kids to these story hours.

00:24:44.320 And he's saying, okay, I'm going to do something.

00:24:46.540 I'm going to do something.

00:24:47.420 And I'm going to speak truth

00:24:48.720 to this absolute disgusting display of sin and iniquity.

00:24:55.880 And he believes that this is what God has called him to do.

00:24:58.580 So this happened at the Calgary Public Library

00:25:00.980 in Alberta, Canada.

00:25:03.820 And they host a regular Reading with Royalty event

00:25:06.820 that feature family-friendly storytime programs

00:25:09.060 led by local drag queen, king, and monarch performers.

00:25:12.880 What does that even mean?

00:25:13.860 And so Pastor Derek Scott Reamer of Mission 7 Ministries

00:25:17.700 in Calgary protested the February 25th event

00:25:20.080 at the Sutton Library branch

00:25:22.920 as part of a planned demonstration.

00:25:24.800 So here was the reaction to him

00:25:27.320 peacefully protesting this event at the library.

00:25:30.920 Okay, we don't have a reply to the camera, Zach.

00:25:33.520 We are now calling the police.

00:25:35.900 Stop, stop, stop.

00:25:37.820 We have the police coming,

00:25:41.020 so it is your choice to leave or deal with the police.

00:25:44.900 It's very abusive in there.

00:25:46.120 We are going to...

00:25:47.080 For love is love.

00:25:48.180 That was like very hateful, very abusive.

00:25:50.920 We're exposing the darkness on this wickedness.

00:25:53.420 We're talking about it right here.

00:25:55.400 And we're coming down to more and more of the shows

00:25:57.680 to say that this is not okay,

00:25:59.860 that this is wrong, that this is evil. 0.98

00:26:02.280 To have a pervert dressed up like that 0.99

00:26:04.660 is wrong and evil. 0.97

00:26:05.800 So children, don't believe this.

00:26:09.500 Parents, don't let your children be involved 0.74

00:26:11.420 with this wickedness.

00:26:13.760 All right.

00:26:14.640 So I don't know if you could hear what he said,

00:26:17.040 but there's nothing that he said that was wrong.

00:26:18.480 He said this is wrong.

00:26:19.340 This is wicked. 0.99

00:26:19.880 That is evil to have a pervert dressed like this 0.98

00:26:22.680 and reading for kids, parents. 0.97

00:26:25.700 You need to do better than this.

00:26:28.460 You need to make a better choice than this.

00:26:30.720 There's nothing that he said that was wrong.

00:26:32.100 He wasn't being violent there.

00:26:33.860 He was kicked out.

00:26:34.840 Okay, so you might think, you know what?

00:26:36.400 It was their right to kick him out.

00:26:37.820 I'm not really sure if that's true,

00:26:39.300 but it's not like he was beaten or killed

00:26:41.820 or something like that.

00:26:42.880 All right.

00:26:43.540 That's true.

00:26:44.260 But that's not the end of the story.

00:26:45.420 He was actually arrested.

00:26:46.900 He was arrested by state authorities.

00:26:50.260 On Thursday, March 2nd,

00:26:51.680 has been charged with one count of causing a disturbance

00:26:54.040 and one count of mischief.

00:26:56.860 He's also facing six counts of harassment

00:26:58.680 under the city's public behavior bylaw.

00:27:00.840 This bylaw carries a $500 fine for communicating with a person

00:27:04.320 in a manner that could reasonably cause offense or humiliation.

00:27:06.820 Gosh, we are so weak. 0.99

00:27:08.520 We're so frigging weak 0.98

00:27:10.140 that you could be charged $500 0.94

00:27:13.100 for talking to a person in a way that causes offense.

00:27:16.940 Woo-hoo! 1.00

00:27:18.260 Including referring to a person's gender identity

00:27:20.620 or sexual orientation.

00:27:22.560 Oh my gosh.

00:27:23.960 Our ancestors.

00:27:25.020 They did, oh, if they saw us today,

00:27:29.860 they would be so embarrassed.

00:27:31.800 Police say he entered the classroom

00:27:33.440 where the event was taking place

00:27:34.640 and shouted homophobic and transphobic slurs

00:27:37.540 at children and parents in attendance.

00:27:39.600 Whatever.

00:27:40.600 He was offered a $3,000 bail last week

00:27:42.800 on the condition that he stayed away from drag queen events.

00:27:45.020 He refused so he will remain in jail

00:27:47.520 and his next bail hearing will be on March 14th.

00:27:50.880 As of last night, police claim he was released,

00:27:53.020 but this is not confirmed.

00:27:54.560 And he has not been in contact with friends and family.

00:27:57.800 He has received several tickets

00:27:58.720 for feeding the homeless without a permit.

00:28:00.860 You need a permit to feed the homeless

00:28:02.560 and violation of COVID-19 restrictions.

00:28:06.060 Oh my goodness.

00:28:06.780 It's more important that we stay six feet away,

00:28:10.400 I guess, for the sake of pretense

00:28:13.000 when it comes to COVID restrictions

00:28:14.980 than it is to feed the homeless.

00:28:16.340 Of course, we saw this all throughout COVID.

00:28:18.800 We saw pastors being put in jail.

00:28:20.860 We talked to a pastor.

00:28:23.020 That was placed in jail

00:28:24.880 simply because he opened his church

00:28:27.280 and preached the gospel.

00:28:28.420 He was not the only pastor who was put in jail.

00:28:31.600 There were several pastors who were imprisoned,

00:28:33.940 who were arrested simply for opening their church

00:28:36.700 and preaching the gospel in Canada.

00:28:38.660 You can't say that Canada is a democratic country.

00:28:41.400 You can't.

00:28:41.860 You can't say that it's a tolerant country.

00:28:43.880 You can't say that it's any beacon

00:28:45.600 of any kind of liberty or equality.

00:28:48.020 It is an anti-Christian totalitarian state 0.65

00:28:51.660 that fools people into thinking that they're democratic 0.85

00:28:54.040 because they're nice

00:28:55.200 and because Justin Trudeau looks put together.

00:28:57.920 But he said in 2013,

00:28:59.400 we've played the sop before,

00:29:01.460 where he said he actually admires Canada

00:29:04.060 or sorry, admires China

00:29:05.900 for their basic dictatorship.

00:29:07.800 And that, of course,

00:29:08.800 is what he has tried to manifest

00:29:10.600 in a previously pretty peaceful

00:29:15.080 and pretty actually democratic and free country.

00:29:19.360 Of course, he takes after his father

00:29:21.160 in carrying the torch

00:29:22.240 of trying to grow the power of the state

00:29:23.980 and wielding it against Christians and conservatives.

00:29:26.960 I mean, we saw that also in the trucking protest

00:29:29.240 that he literally froze the bank accounts

00:29:33.200 of people who opposed him

00:29:34.400 because of the vaccine mandates. 0.97

00:29:35.980 It's just an ugly, ugly soul.

00:29:37.880 But people will fall for anything 0.91

00:29:40.560 as long as it looks okay.

00:29:42.840 Shouldn't you value this kind of speech?

00:29:47.060 Like, shouldn't you at least be able

00:29:49.500 to look at this and say,

00:29:50.380 you know, I believe that you should be able

00:29:51.880 to peacefully protest something.

00:29:53.180 I believe that you should be able

00:29:54.380 to oppose something with your words.

00:29:57.520 Like, I just talked about

00:29:59.300 how I delivered a speech in California

00:30:02.240 and how there were sirens playing in the background

00:30:04.720 during my speech.

00:30:06.700 Like, did I call for those people to be arrested,

00:30:09.420 to be tackled by my security

00:30:11.200 or the Capitol Police there?

00:30:13.760 No, I spoke over them

00:30:15.260 because I know my ideas are better than theirs.

00:30:18.820 Like, I'm not scared of their shouting.

00:30:21.540 Like, I know their message is one of murder.

00:30:24.600 It's one of ugliness.

00:30:26.160 I'm not worried about their harassment

00:30:28.960 or their nonsensical signs or their sirens.

00:30:33.200 And like, are they going to get arrested

00:30:34.540 by the state of California

00:30:36.000 for putting, you know,

00:30:38.700 for playing sirens during my speech?

00:30:40.920 And not just during my speech,

00:30:41.960 but also the national anthem during prayers.

00:30:45.560 No.

00:30:46.360 And I actually think, I mean,

00:30:47.620 as awful as it is,

00:30:49.240 I believe that it's their right to be there

00:30:51.240 and to counter protest,

00:30:53.020 even if they are protesting in favor

00:30:55.360 for the literal dismemberment of children,

00:30:57.560 I still see the importance

00:30:58.780 of a politically neutral First Amendment.

00:31:02.200 Yes, there are limits to the First Amendment.

00:31:03.960 This is not one of them.

00:31:05.120 And when we live in a society,

00:31:06.720 a supposedly democratic and free

00:31:08.500 and moral and virtuous society

00:31:10.820 that is favoring men 1.00

00:31:14.000 dressed up as scantily clad women 0.99

00:31:17.680 over the pastor

00:31:19.880 who is simply trying to protect

00:31:21.860 those children from that perversion,

00:31:23.620 we know that we've gone too far,

00:31:26.500 too far, perhaps past the point

00:31:28.300 of no return.

00:31:32.100 At his previous arrest,

00:31:33.600 he said from the back of the police vehicle,

00:31:35.760 I guess this is when he was feeding the homeless

00:31:37.960 in violation of COVID-19 restrictions,

00:31:40.160 he said,

00:31:40.440 they put me in a little cage.

00:31:41.820 That's how they treat people here in Canada

00:31:43.160 when they preach the gospel

00:31:44.080 against this wickedness,

00:31:45.940 against this abomination,

00:31:47.540 this drag queen show,

00:31:48.580 all ages,

00:31:49.360 that's affecting the children,

00:31:50.860 corrupting the children,

00:31:51.860 Canadians stand up.

00:31:55.500 And Tucker Carlson of Fox News,

00:31:57.640 he covered this last week

00:31:59.580 and he asked a question

00:32:00.600 that I think is totally legitimate.

00:32:02.800 And I say this as someone

00:32:03.720 who probably does not agree

00:32:05.400 with Tucker Carlson

00:32:06.180 in a lot of ways theologically.

00:32:07.980 I honestly am not totally sure

00:32:09.560 what his theology is.

00:32:10.600 I believe that he is Episcopalian,

00:32:13.620 which is on the,

00:32:15.900 theologically,

00:32:17.240 is on the far left end.

00:32:19.460 I'm not saying that he identifies

00:32:20.680 with all of the tenets

00:32:21.880 of Episcopalian theology,

00:32:24.780 but I am sure that we disagree

00:32:26.720 on a lot of things.

00:32:28.200 But when he calls out

00:32:29.600 these evangelicals

00:32:31.060 for being silent on this issue,

00:32:33.060 I think he makes a very,

00:32:34.620 very valid point.

00:32:36.240 Here he is.

00:32:36.760 Where are all the professional Christians? 1.00

00:32:38.460 You have to wonder that again.

00:32:41.180 Where's David French

00:32:42.560 and Beth Moore

00:32:43.580 and Tim Keller

00:32:44.560 and all these people

00:32:45.640 who are defending Christianity

00:32:46.780 as actual Christians

00:32:47.980 are being arrested

00:32:48.640 for being Christians?

00:32:50.000 Hmm.

00:32:50.920 Not a word.

00:32:51.860 Again, I probably align theologically.

00:32:56.320 Like, if we're just looking

00:32:57.140 at basic theological tenets,

00:32:58.740 I probably align more with

00:33:00.680 David French

00:33:02.400 and Tim Keller

00:33:03.740 and Beth Moore.

00:33:05.340 If we're just looking at,

00:33:06.200 like, the basic tenets

00:33:07.240 of the gospel

00:33:08.020 and Christianity,

00:33:08.940 I mean, I'm sure

00:33:10.000 that we agree on more

00:33:11.500 than Tucker Carlson

00:33:13.560 and I do.

00:33:14.440 But Tucker is making

00:33:15.640 a very legitimate point

00:33:17.160 when it comes to this.

00:33:17.900 These are people

00:33:18.500 who are not silent on politics.

00:33:20.420 They're very loud

00:33:21.380 when it comes to politics.

00:33:22.740 They will talk about culture wars.

00:33:24.860 But at the end of the day,

00:33:25.960 I believe that these people,

00:33:27.940 some of the people

00:33:28.440 that he listed

00:33:28.920 are actually embarrassed 0.97

00:33:30.220 by Christians like this. 0.87

00:33:31.560 They're actually embarrassed 0.96

00:33:32.460 by Christians

00:33:33.460 who defied COVID mandates.

00:33:35.340 They're actually embarrassed

00:33:36.220 by the pastors in Canada

00:33:38.080 who said,

00:33:38.560 I'm not closing my doors.

00:33:39.780 They're embarrassed

00:33:40.360 by people like John MacArthur

00:33:41.740 who said,

00:33:42.640 you know what?

00:33:43.100 We're going to stay open

00:33:44.500 even though Newsom

00:33:45.380 is trying to shut us down

00:33:47.340 as they're keeping

00:33:48.340 liquor stores

00:33:49.560 and strip clubs open.

00:33:51.360 No, we are going to keep

00:33:52.880 our church doors open.

00:33:54.420 We are going to continue

00:33:55.700 to follow the authority

00:33:56.800 of Christ

00:33:57.460 whose authority supersedes

00:33:59.060 the American governments,

00:34:00.680 supersedes state governments,

00:34:01.940 supersedes the Canadian governments,

00:34:03.680 and we are going to continue

00:34:05.280 to preach the gospel

00:34:06.620 no matter what you do to us.

00:34:09.880 I think that the Christians 0.98

00:34:11.440 that he listed here

00:34:12.260 are actually embarrassed

00:34:13.300 by those people

00:34:14.060 and actually think

00:34:15.060 that those people

00:34:15.660 are unloving

00:34:16.860 who don't think

00:34:17.980 that it's really

00:34:18.580 the right thing to do

00:34:20.100 to stand up

00:34:21.140 to men who are

00:34:22.000 preying upon children 0.99

00:34:22.960 wearing fake boobs 0.99

00:34:24.080 and thongs and fishnets. 0.94

00:34:26.640 Now, I'm not saying

00:34:27.500 they agree with that.

00:34:28.860 I don't.

00:34:29.600 Like, I don't think

00:34:30.500 that Beth Moore

00:34:31.280 or Russell Moore

00:34:32.100 or any of those people

00:34:32.940 think that drag queens 0.99

00:34:34.200 are great

00:34:34.720 or drag queens story hour

00:34:36.200 is great.

00:34:36.660 At the end of the day,

00:34:37.580 if they really got down to it,

00:34:39.360 again, I think

00:34:40.080 that we probably agree

00:34:41.360 probably more

00:34:42.560 than Tucker does

00:34:44.460 on the biblical ethic

00:34:46.000 of homosexuality 1.00

00:34:47.920 on homosexuality

00:34:49.120 and sexuality

00:34:49.540 and marriage

00:34:50.160 and sex

00:34:50.660 and all of those things.

00:34:52.320 So we probably agree,

00:34:53.760 but they are unwilling

00:34:55.540 to wade into

00:34:56.360 those culture wars

00:34:57.340 because they see them

00:34:58.200 as right wing.

00:34:59.400 They see them

00:35:00.080 as conservatives

00:35:00.880 just making a big deal

00:35:02.280 out of things,

00:35:02.980 but that doesn't stop them

00:35:04.400 from talking about

00:35:05.180 other things

00:35:05.760 from a left wing perspective

00:35:07.080 like race

00:35:08.440 or COVID

00:35:09.000 or things like that.

00:35:10.440 And it's not just this.

00:35:11.500 It's not just this

00:35:12.260 kind of issue.

00:35:12.880 It's also if you

00:35:14.660 look at the other stories

00:35:16.800 that are similar

00:35:17.420 around the world,

00:35:18.360 you just don't see them,

00:35:20.420 especially,

00:35:20.980 I mean,

00:35:21.220 Russell Moore.

00:35:21.960 He was the head

00:35:23.360 of the ERLC

00:35:25.120 who cares,

00:35:26.600 obviously,

00:35:27.180 ostensibly

00:35:27.640 about religious liberty.

00:35:29.000 I believe that they

00:35:29.620 sincerely do.

00:35:30.580 He was the head

00:35:31.060 of the ERLC,

00:35:32.520 the Ethics and Religious

00:35:33.540 Liberty Committee.

00:35:36.600 And I just,

00:35:37.860 it's not that I don't think

00:35:38.920 that he cares

00:35:39.480 about religious liberty,

00:35:40.400 but I do wonder

00:35:41.400 when it comes

00:35:42.000 to these issues,

00:35:44.180 why they aren't

00:35:45.720 more vocal

00:35:46.300 when they are so vocal

00:35:47.560 about other political issues,

00:35:49.440 so vocal about Trump,

00:35:50.620 they're so vocal

00:35:51.240 about racism,

00:35:52.020 they're so vocal

00:35:52.720 about the importance

00:35:53.760 of getting your vaccine

00:35:54.720 and wearing your mask

00:35:55.660 to loving your neighbor

00:35:56.380 to love your neighbor.

00:35:57.920 And yet,

00:35:58.280 I don't hear a lot

00:35:59.640 of them talking about,

00:36:00.640 for example,

00:36:01.200 Isabel Von Spruce,

00:36:03.360 who was arrested

00:36:04.200 for praying

00:36:05.200 outside an abortion clinic.

00:36:06.980 Again,

00:36:07.800 she was arrested 0.68

00:36:08.720 for praying

00:36:09.460 outside an abortion clinic.

00:36:10.500 We talked about her story

00:36:12.080 a couple months ago.

00:36:13.380 She was arrested 0.68

00:36:14.720 for praying

00:36:16.060 in front of,

00:36:16.860 silently praying,

00:36:18.000 by the way,

00:36:18.580 silently praying,

00:36:20.540 in front of

00:36:21.960 an abortion center.

00:36:23.320 And now she was arrested

00:36:24.260 again on March 6th.

00:36:27.600 This is in

00:36:29.000 Birmingham,

00:36:30.980 England.

00:36:31.840 She was standing there 1.00

00:36:33.080 in front of the abortion clinic.

00:36:34.480 She was silently praying.

00:36:35.800 And this is what her exchange

00:36:36.860 looked like

00:36:37.280 with a police officer

00:36:38.560 who said,

00:36:39.280 I'm going to have

00:36:40.100 to arrest you for this.

00:36:41.640 Can I please ask you

00:36:42.700 to step away from here

00:36:43.640 and step outside

00:36:44.260 the exclusion zone?

00:36:45.820 I'm protesting

00:36:46.860 and engaging in

00:36:47.820 the activity.

00:36:48.460 But you've said

00:36:48.980 you're engaging in prayer,

00:36:50.120 which is the offense.

00:36:51.260 It's silent prayer.

00:36:52.260 No, but you are still

00:36:52.920 engaging in prayer.

00:36:54.520 It is an offense.

00:36:55.760 I disagree.

00:36:56.820 Okay, then.

00:36:58.040 So,

00:36:58.640 you would rather

00:36:59.420 that you be arrested

00:37:00.980 and taken away

00:37:02.020 than stand outside

00:37:03.620 the exclusion zone?

00:37:04.520 Is that what you're saying?

00:37:05.360 Are those

00:37:05.700 doing the two alternatives?

00:37:06.900 Yes.

00:37:07.240 All right.

00:37:09.540 So, hopefully,

00:37:10.020 you were able to decipher

00:37:11.000 what was said there.

00:37:11.820 If you're watching this,

00:37:12.700 there are captions

00:37:14.280 for you to read.

00:37:16.000 So, if you need

00:37:17.040 to understand,

00:37:17.760 you can turn this

00:37:19.120 on YouTube

00:37:19.460 if you're just listening

00:37:20.280 to this.

00:37:21.180 But she is arguing,

00:37:22.760 look, sure,

00:37:23.460 I'm outside

00:37:24.820 or I'm not in the,

00:37:27.180 I'm in a restricted zone,

00:37:31.120 but I'm only

00:37:31.940 in a restricted zone

00:37:33.300 legally

00:37:33.740 for that restricts

00:37:35.960 certain behaviors

00:37:36.920 like causing

00:37:37.740 a disturbance

00:37:38.420 or protesting

00:37:39.480 or something like that.

00:37:40.700 Apparently,

00:37:41.140 there are these zones

00:37:42.460 in which you can't

00:37:43.440 do those things.

00:37:44.400 And she is arguing,

00:37:45.340 okay,

00:37:46.220 but the zones

00:37:47.860 that you're talking about

00:37:48.880 only prohibit

00:37:49.700 certain kinds of behavior

00:37:50.520 that I am not engaging in.

00:37:51.700 She was literally

00:37:52.360 standing there

00:37:53.200 with her hands

00:37:53.780 in her pockets,

00:37:54.540 closing her eyes.

00:37:55.880 And I'm sure

00:37:56.580 someone from

00:37:57.080 the pregnancy center,

00:37:58.020 just the evil

00:37:58.960 demonic forces

00:37:59.720 that they are,

00:38:00.340 called the police

00:38:00.920 and said,

00:38:01.520 hey,

00:38:01.740 come over here.

00:38:02.380 Someone is silently

00:38:03.200 praying and I'm

00:38:04.080 mad about it.

00:38:05.660 Because,

00:38:06.240 yeah,

00:38:06.600 the prayer of a righteous

00:38:07.300 person has great power.

00:38:08.400 They should be mad about it.

00:38:09.300 They should be scared about it.

00:38:10.920 And she was previously

00:38:12.460 arrested on December 6th.

00:38:14.020 She was acquitted

00:38:15.040 on February 16th.

00:38:17.460 And now she is,

00:38:19.020 you know,

00:38:19.520 facing charges again

00:38:20.640 for the same,

00:38:21.640 for the same thing.

00:38:23.060 Today,

00:38:23.540 Tuesday,

00:38:23.840 March 7th,

00:38:24.260 the House of Commons

00:38:24.960 actually will debate

00:38:25.700 amendments to the public order

00:38:26.660 that would criminalize 0.70

00:38:27.580 any form of influencing

00:38:28.960 outside of abortion facilities.

00:38:31.460 Penalties could include

00:38:32.320 a prison term

00:38:32.900 of up to two years.

00:38:34.220 As of 9.30 a.m.

00:38:35.380 CST on March 7th,

00:38:37.880 no decision has been made

00:38:39.260 on any amendments.

00:38:41.020 A conservative member

00:38:41.700 of parliament

00:38:42.440 has proposed two changes

00:38:43.520 that would exempt

00:38:44.380 consensual communication,

00:38:46.140 silent prayer,

00:38:46.760 and peaceful presence

00:38:47.600 at clinics

00:38:48.100 from being criminalized. 0.97

00:38:49.140 It's so silly 0.89

00:38:49.680 that like the conservatives 0.96

00:38:50.980 are just asking

00:38:51.900 for like morsels of freedom.

00:38:54.100 That's so true in Canada.

00:38:56.000 It's almost true

00:38:56.680 in a lot of cases here too.

00:38:58.800 But I mean,

00:38:59.840 obviously the truth is

00:39:01.060 that there should never be

00:39:02.080 any kind of restriction

00:39:03.340 on prayer

00:39:04.800 and on peaceful protests.

00:39:06.880 They don't technically

00:39:08.100 have the First Amendment there,

00:39:09.760 but as a supposedly

00:39:11.740 Western democracy,

00:39:12.900 they are supposed

00:39:13.620 to care about free speech

00:39:14.920 and the freedom of religion,

00:39:15.900 and they clearly don't.

00:39:17.680 Sacraments like abortion 1.00

00:39:18.960 and LGBTQ behavior

00:39:22.160 is seen as much holier

00:39:24.620 and much more worthy

00:39:26.780 of protection

00:39:27.720 than prayer

00:39:29.440 and than worship

00:39:30.800 and than speech.

00:39:32.260 So we're seeing this

00:39:33.000 throughout the world

00:39:33.640 and not only there,

00:39:35.020 but there was also

00:39:35.960 that Finnish MP

00:39:37.220 who quoted the Bible,

00:39:39.020 Romans 1, 24 through 27,

00:39:41.240 posted it on Facebook.

00:39:45.440 And of course,

00:39:46.500 that talks about homosexuality 0.89

00:39:48.040 and the behavior

00:39:48.620 being sinful.

00:39:50.120 And she is actually

00:39:53.440 facing up to two years

00:39:54.660 in prison

00:39:55.180 for exercising

00:39:56.100 her right to free speech.

00:39:58.100 And then there was

00:39:59.100 the Swedish

00:39:59.780 or the Norwegian filmmaker.

00:40:02.240 She's a lesbian filmmaker. 1.00

00:40:03.640 She is facing up

00:40:04.400 to three years in prison

00:40:05.560 for saying that men 0.68

00:40:07.280 cannot be lesbians. 1.00

00:40:10.380 So that's where we are

00:40:12.160 throughout the world.

00:40:13.140 Saying things that are true

00:40:14.580 against supposedly

00:40:16.340 marginalized groups,

00:40:18.480 protected groups

00:40:19.860 can get you thrown in jail.

00:40:21.820 And so again,

00:40:22.580 I think Tucker

00:40:23.360 asks a really good question.

00:40:25.800 Why aren't more Christians, 0.99

00:40:27.060 Christians with the biggest platforms,

00:40:28.980 Christians with a whole lot 0.99

00:40:30.080 of influence,

00:40:30.760 Christians who I know,

00:40:32.340 know their Bibles

00:40:33.340 and I believe care

00:40:34.680 about what the Bible says.

00:40:36.400 Why do they choose

00:40:37.300 not to speak up

00:40:38.080 on these things,

00:40:38.900 which I think

00:40:39.620 are a much bigger issue

00:40:41.120 than the problems

00:40:42.320 that they very often

00:40:43.320 choose to spotlight?

00:40:44.880 Now, I am not saying

00:40:46.340 that every Christian influencer

00:40:47.720 has to talk about

00:40:48.720 every issue

00:40:49.620 to demonstrate

00:40:50.260 that they care about it.

00:40:51.400 I don't believe that.

00:40:52.480 In fact,

00:40:52.800 that really bothers me

00:40:54.020 when people hold,

00:40:55.480 you know,

00:40:56.340 Christians to that. 0.76

00:40:57.560 I mean,

00:40:57.780 I talk about a lot of stuff,

00:40:59.140 but that's my job.

00:40:59.980 I understand

00:41:00.380 that's not Russell Moore's

00:41:01.420 job necessarily.

00:41:02.480 That might be David French's job,

00:41:03.720 but it's not Beth Moore's job.

00:41:05.260 It's not,

00:41:06.040 you know,

00:41:07.100 all of these Christian influencers' 0.93

00:41:08.780 job to talk about

00:41:09.680 every cultural issue.

00:41:10.940 My problem is,

00:41:12.280 is how they choose

00:41:14.340 and how they choose

00:41:15.680 to talk about

00:41:16.600 the issues that they do.

00:41:18.140 And it's typically

00:41:18.800 the issues

00:41:19.520 that they believe

00:41:20.540 will help

00:41:21.600 get them points

00:41:24.140 on the left,

00:41:25.540 at least the ones

00:41:26.300 that the people

00:41:27.060 that Tucker listed.

00:41:29.360 And that is why

00:41:30.340 you have someone

00:41:31.080 like Beth Moore

00:41:32.020 traveling to Waco, Texas

00:41:33.940 and talking to a bunch

00:41:35.380 of students

00:41:36.000 at Baylor

00:41:37.000 about the apparently

00:41:38.100 pervasive problem

00:41:39.700 about white supremacy

00:41:41.060 in the church.

00:41:43.300 She delivered this speech

00:41:44.540 on February 17th,

00:41:45.660 Time to Wake Up Racism

00:41:47.080 in the White Church.

00:41:49.320 And she just talked about

00:41:50.840 how she is,

00:41:51.940 she's learning about this

00:41:53.800 and we all need

00:41:54.840 to be learning about this.

00:41:56.320 And she talked a lot

00:41:57.380 about the history

00:42:00.340 of racism within the church

00:42:01.860 and not just that,

00:42:02.740 but also the history

00:42:03.780 of racism within America.

00:42:06.220 I need you to think of me,

00:42:07.400 she says,

00:42:07.740 in this journey

00:42:08.520 toward anti-racism.

00:42:09.880 I can't believe

00:42:10.520 that we're still doing this.

00:42:11.840 I mean,

00:42:12.480 the facade has been

00:42:14.400 completely taken off.

00:42:16.000 Like the mask

00:42:16.600 has been taken off

00:42:17.360 of BLM

00:42:18.200 and Ibram X. Kendi

00:42:20.620 and Nicole Hannah-Jones

00:42:22.580 and Robin DiAngelo

00:42:23.900 and we are still

00:42:24.940 using their language

00:42:26.720 even though

00:42:27.580 we have had

00:42:28.420 so many wise Christians

00:42:30.440 point out

00:42:31.300 how their arguments

00:42:33.760 are so not just

00:42:35.180 illogical,

00:42:36.300 incoherent,

00:42:37.060 but also profoundly

00:42:38.320 unbiblical 0.77

00:42:38.940 and yet we still

00:42:39.880 have Christian

00:42:40.540 influencers

00:42:40.980 using their language

00:42:42.100 and promoting it

00:42:43.200 as biblical.

00:42:43.800 So her journey

00:42:44.640 toward anti-racism

00:42:45.640 as a middle schooler

00:42:46.520 at best,

00:42:47.080 pimple face with braces

00:42:47.880 and extremely awkward

00:42:48.660 and sometimes giggly.

00:42:49.760 I need you to go

00:42:50.520 to all those places

00:42:51.300 with me and know

00:42:51.920 that I've just begun

00:42:53.200 my own journey.

00:42:54.320 I mean,

00:42:54.560 this really is so much

00:42:55.820 like a Maoist

00:42:56.660 struggle session

00:42:58.100 taking on

00:42:59.440 this cultural

00:43:00.080 and secular

00:43:00.920 language

00:43:01.940 in order to

00:43:03.320 kind of

00:43:04.100 alleviate

00:43:04.900 any criticism

00:43:06.340 or try to

00:43:08.380 ameliorate

00:43:10.240 any critics

00:43:12.020 who might

00:43:12.940 judge someone

00:43:14.600 for being racist

00:43:16.100 or for being

00:43:17.260 part of

00:43:18.040 white supremacy

00:43:19.100 or upholding

00:43:20.260 the apparent racism

00:43:21.380 in something like

00:43:22.220 the Southern Baptist

00:43:22.960 Convention,

00:43:23.700 a denomination

00:43:24.240 that she was a part

00:43:25.020 of for a long time.

00:43:27.100 She just,

00:43:27.680 again,

00:43:28.280 more self-deprecating

00:43:29.220 language,

00:43:29.820 talking about

00:43:30.400 her learning curve

00:43:31.600 and that she grew up

00:43:33.180 in the white church

00:43:34.300 and had white thinking

00:43:35.720 and then she talks

00:43:37.340 about how this all

00:43:38.220 changed during the

00:43:39.540 murder of Trayvon Martin

00:43:41.040 in 2012

00:43:41.880 and again,

00:43:42.580 you'll just remember

00:43:43.800 that the Trayvon Martin

00:43:45.680 case,

00:43:46.080 the Michael Brown case,

00:43:47.420 all extremely contentious,

00:43:50.240 extremely wrought

00:43:51.440 with debate

00:43:52.040 and discussion

00:43:52.620 of what actually

00:43:53.500 went on

00:43:54.200 and what the

00:43:55.340 problems were

00:43:56.220 and then she talks

00:43:57.540 about,

00:43:57.780 which I'm glad

00:43:58.160 that she admits this,

00:43:59.320 the shift came

00:44:00.020 with the presidential

00:44:00.660 campaign of 2016,

00:44:02.140 which ushered

00:44:03.300 a political divisiveness

00:44:04.300 the likes of which

00:44:05.240 I've never seen

00:44:05.920 and this is something

00:44:06.580 she talks about a lot,

00:44:07.500 how she feels

00:44:07.960 like evangelicals 1.00

00:44:08.800 who support Trump

00:44:09.560 have idolized him

00:44:11.200 and here's what she said,

00:44:13.100 she said,

00:44:13.420 we have come to a point

00:44:14.260 in time

00:44:14.840 when even to put

00:44:15.880 love your neighbor

00:44:16.800 on social media

00:44:17.920 is to be called woke.

00:44:20.780 Really?

00:44:21.860 Is that true?

00:44:23.140 Is that an accurate

00:44:24.160 description of what

00:44:24.980 people are calling woke?

00:44:27.380 When people say to,

00:44:28.700 when you say

00:44:29.620 love your neighbor,

00:44:30.360 people say,

00:44:30.880 oh,

00:44:31.000 you're progressive

00:44:31.720 for saying that

00:44:32.560 or is it what

00:44:33.220 you are calling

00:44:33.840 loving your neighbor?

00:44:35.200 Is it maybe

00:44:35.760 we don't agree

00:44:36.520 with your definition

00:44:37.300 of what loving

00:44:37.860 your neighbor is

00:44:38.600 because I know

00:44:39.320 that you have linked

00:44:40.000 wearing a mask

00:44:40.880 to loving your neighbor.

00:44:43.000 We know that you

00:44:43.640 have talked about,

00:44:44.380 you know,

00:44:45.100 dismantling systemic racism

00:44:47.080 and things like that,

00:44:48.240 which I think

00:44:48.880 are all left-wing

00:44:50.360 and secular,

00:44:51.000 not biblical ideas

00:44:52.080 of justice.

00:44:52.860 You've linked

00:44:53.500 those things

00:44:54.080 to loving your neighbor.

00:44:54.980 So maybe we disagree

00:44:56.160 with what you mean

00:44:57.460 by loving your neighbor.

00:44:58.680 Maybe we think

00:44:59.540 that what you are

00:45:00.580 talking about

00:45:01.280 is loving your neighbor

00:45:02.160 is not actually loving

00:45:03.320 because it's not actually

00:45:04.340 just or correct

00:45:05.360 or good.

00:45:06.280 We can debate

00:45:06.900 those things.

00:45:07.920 I'm sure that she does

00:45:08.740 actually want to love

00:45:09.660 your neighbor,

00:45:10.140 but I don't think

00:45:10.780 that loving your neighbor

00:45:11.560 is woke.

00:45:12.160 I just disagree

00:45:12.840 with progressive people

00:45:14.060 on what love

00:45:14.980 actually looks like.

00:45:17.060 She says,

00:45:17.480 white Christian Americans

00:45:18.480 have been reluctant

00:45:19.380 to condemn justice

00:45:20.640 because they have

00:45:21.380 benefited from it.

00:45:22.900 More struggle session

00:45:24.320 language.

00:45:25.200 Again,

00:45:25.480 maybe it's just

00:45:26.120 because we disagree

00:45:26.920 on what you are

00:45:27.600 calling injustice.

00:45:28.480 There's a large debate

00:45:30.140 about the extent

00:45:31.240 of systemic racism

00:45:32.500 today if systemic racism

00:45:34.360 even exists.

00:45:35.300 I don't think anyone

00:45:35.840 denies that discrimination

00:45:36.840 or prejudice can exist

00:45:38.260 against white people,

00:45:39.380 against black people, 0.99

00:45:40.140 against brown people, 0.95

00:45:41.040 but it is a debate.

00:45:42.680 It is actually a theory,

00:45:44.100 a theoretical assertion

00:45:45.660 that systemic racism

00:45:47.880 is alive and well today.

00:45:49.600 This theory that there

00:45:50.980 has been an unbroken

00:45:52.460 thread of prejudice

00:45:56.240 and racism 0.77

00:45:57.120 against black people 1.00

00:45:58.120 going all the way back

00:45:59.000 from 1619 to today

00:46:00.580 that has taken on

00:46:01.560 different forms.

00:46:02.660 I mean,

00:46:02.840 Walter Williams,

00:46:03.760 Thomas Sowell

00:46:04.420 have broken this down

00:46:05.580 and refuted this

00:46:06.360 very many times

00:46:07.180 using data and history.

00:46:09.860 So there's a debate

00:46:11.020 about that.

00:46:12.020 So to say that people

00:46:12.980 who disagree with you

00:46:14.320 don't believe

00:46:15.880 in loving their neighbor

00:46:16.780 or don't believe

00:46:18.900 in fighting injustice,

00:46:20.900 I mean,

00:46:21.260 this is the kind

00:46:22.380 of arrogance.

00:46:23.920 It's like arrogance

00:46:24.780 matched with what I think

00:46:26.080 is like this false

00:46:27.220 self-deprecation

00:46:29.560 that this whole

00:46:30.160 anti-racist ideology

00:46:31.720 and social justice ideology

00:46:33.480 actually produces.

00:46:35.620 And she talks about

00:46:36.120 how easy it is 0.71

00:46:36.820 to be a white supremacist. 0.94

00:46:38.140 You don't realize 1.00

00:46:38.880 that you're a white supremacist. 0.98

00:46:40.020 You don't have to be 0.99

00:46:40.460 a skinhead 0.99

00:46:41.000 to be a white supremacist. 0.99

00:46:42.640 She says the work

00:46:43.420 of anti-racism

00:46:44.660 is gospel work.

00:46:45.640 And if you don't know,

00:46:46.920 people on the left say

00:46:47.780 it's not possible

00:46:48.440 to just not be a racist.

00:46:49.800 You have to be

00:46:50.260 actively anti-racist.

00:46:52.060 And how does

00:46:52.820 Ibram X. Kendi

00:46:53.640 define that?

00:46:54.560 Well, I will actually

00:46:55.320 define it.

00:46:56.080 In more eloquent words

00:46:58.020 than he does.

00:46:59.380 But if you read his book,

00:47:00.640 How to Be an Anti-Racist,

00:47:02.560 he basically thinks

00:47:03.560 that current discrimination

00:47:04.500 against white people

00:47:05.560 is the remedy

00:47:06.060 for past discrimination

00:47:07.240 until we reach

00:47:08.780 some sort of equal outcome.

00:47:10.460 So is that

00:47:11.080 really what

00:47:12.220 Beth Moore

00:47:13.000 is advocating for here?

00:47:14.860 Is she really

00:47:15.600 arguing

00:47:16.540 for

00:47:17.320 partiality?

00:47:19.360 Because

00:47:20.000 that's directly

00:47:21.180 on

00:47:21.500 that's completely

00:47:22.820 unbiblical.

00:47:23.460 that's completely

00:47:24.500 opposed

00:47:25.480 to God's

00:47:26.400 definitions of justice.

00:47:27.420 What do we

00:47:27.800 say if you look

00:47:28.780 at the Old Testament

00:47:29.420 and God's law

00:47:30.260 giving to Israel?

00:47:31.580 What are

00:47:32.020 the four characteristics

00:47:33.440 of justice

00:47:34.060 that we see

00:47:34.640 repeatedly?

00:47:36.520 We see

00:47:37.400 that justice,

00:47:38.400 according to God,

00:47:39.020 is truthful.

00:47:40.060 It is direct.

00:47:41.380 So that means

00:47:42.020 that you as a white person

00:47:43.140 are not on the hook

00:47:44.180 for either

00:47:45.640 what your ancestors

00:47:46.580 did

00:47:47.040 or what someone

00:47:48.540 who just vaguely

00:47:49.480 looked like you

00:47:50.760 did who lives

00:47:52.200 in the same

00:47:52.760 relative geographical

00:47:54.180 region as you

00:47:55.800 200 years ago.

00:47:58.260 It is also

00:47:59.020 proportional

00:47:59.600 so the punishment

00:48:00.480 fits the crime

00:48:01.240 and that it is

00:48:02.120 also impartial.

00:48:03.400 We read over

00:48:04.100 and over again

00:48:04.660 Old and New Testament

00:48:05.800 that God hates

00:48:06.880 partiality,

00:48:08.300 that he hates

00:48:08.920 when we favor

00:48:09.520 the poor

00:48:10.080 or when we favor

00:48:11.040 the great,

00:48:12.740 when we give

00:48:13.460 preferential treatment

00:48:14.480 to one person

00:48:15.280 because of their status,

00:48:16.820 whether it's

00:48:17.760 their poor status,

00:48:18.720 their small status,

00:48:19.520 their big

00:48:21.260 and powerful

00:48:21.860 and rich status,

00:48:23.200 God sees

00:48:23.900 partiality

00:48:25.060 as injustice.

00:48:26.760 So to say

00:48:27.420 that current

00:48:27.940 partiality

00:48:28.680 is the remedy

00:48:29.340 for past

00:48:30.360 partiality

00:48:31.280 is sinful.

00:48:32.540 It is unbiblical. 0.93

00:48:35.380 So I just want

00:48:36.140 to read you,

00:48:36.660 I like when we're

00:48:37.320 talking about

00:48:37.840 this kind of stuff,

00:48:38.400 I just,

00:48:39.020 again,

00:48:39.680 want to read you

00:48:40.200 which I think

00:48:40.640 summarizes

00:48:41.740 what we're

00:48:42.060 talking about.

00:48:42.960 James 3,

00:48:43.980 starting in verse 13,

00:48:45.700 who is wise

00:48:46.400 and understanding

00:48:46.940 among you

00:48:47.420 by his good conduct,

00:48:48.500 let him show

00:48:49.040 his works

00:48:49.500 in the meekness

00:48:50.280 of wisdom.

00:48:51.040 But if you have

00:48:51.600 bitter jealousy

00:48:52.280 and selfish ambition

00:48:53.160 in your hearts,

00:48:53.820 do not boast

00:48:54.380 and be false

00:48:54.860 to the truth.

00:48:55.620 This is not

00:48:56.140 the wisdom

00:48:56.540 that comes down

00:48:57.220 from above

00:48:57.800 but is earthly

00:48:58.700 unspiritual demonic.

00:49:00.180 For where jealousy

00:49:00.960 and selfish ambition

00:49:01.840 exist,

00:49:02.480 there will be

00:49:03.020 disorder

00:49:03.420 in every vile

00:49:04.720 practice.

00:49:05.640 But the wisdom

00:49:06.140 from above

00:49:06.800 is first pure

00:49:07.600 then peaceable,

00:49:08.360 gentle,

00:49:08.760 open to reason,

00:49:09.840 full of mercy

00:49:10.800 and good fruits,

00:49:11.620 impartial

00:49:12.520 and sincere

00:49:14.420 and a harvest

00:49:14.980 of righteousness

00:49:15.600 is sown

00:49:16.720 in peace

00:49:17.380 by those

00:49:18.040 who make

00:49:19.380 peace.

00:49:21.080 The wisdom

00:49:21.700 from above

00:49:22.420 is pure,

00:49:23.120 peaceful,

00:49:23.500 gentle,

00:49:23.920 open to reason.

00:49:25.900 The ideology

00:49:26.420 of anti-racism

00:49:27.940 is closed off

00:49:29.200 to reason.

00:49:30.280 It is based

00:49:31.080 largely on

00:49:32.740 emotion

00:49:33.640 and again,

00:49:34.940 theories.

00:49:35.980 I would be curious

00:49:37.260 how many

00:49:38.220 books

00:49:40.540 she has read

00:49:41.820 on critical

00:49:42.580 race theory

00:49:43.360 and I'm talking

00:49:44.160 about by proponents

00:49:45.380 of critical

00:49:46.100 race theory,

00:49:46.640 by the authors

00:49:47.220 of critical

00:49:47.720 race theory

00:49:48.240 I have

00:49:48.760 and she

00:49:50.540 might not

00:49:51.060 realize

00:49:51.580 that that is

00:49:52.140 where many

00:49:52.980 of her assertions

00:49:53.740 are coming

00:49:54.440 from

00:49:54.800 but in fact

00:49:57.300 they are.

00:49:57.940 So all this

00:49:58.480 to say

00:49:58.940 people like

00:49:59.880 Beth Moore

00:50:00.500 and some

00:50:00.900 of the other

00:50:01.260 people that

00:50:01.740 Tucker Carlson

00:50:02.320 listed,

00:50:02.880 they definitely

00:50:03.880 find time

00:50:04.920 and energy

00:50:05.460 and space

00:50:05.980 and words

00:50:06.340 to talk

00:50:06.760 about cultural

00:50:07.320 and political

00:50:07.840 issues

00:50:08.360 but I just

00:50:09.940 think again

00:50:10.500 they're embarrassed

00:50:11.500 by Christians

00:50:13.420 who are standing

00:50:14.040 up to issues

00:50:14.840 that they see

00:50:15.360 as right-wing

00:50:15.940 conservative issues.

00:50:17.520 It's more

00:50:18.140 sophisticated,

00:50:19.140 it's more

00:50:19.500 biblical

00:50:19.920 to stand up

00:50:21.060 for issues

00:50:21.640 that are

00:50:22.080 traditionally

00:50:22.480 left-wing

00:50:22.980 and I know

00:50:23.380 they see

00:50:23.760 themselves

00:50:24.160 as non-political.

00:50:25.620 I know

00:50:25.880 they see

00:50:26.540 themselves

00:50:26.980 as moderate

00:50:28.040 and look

00:50:28.840 we all have

00:50:29.380 our,

00:50:29.640 I'm conservative

00:50:30.440 so I'm

00:50:31.180 going to be

00:50:31.560 thinking more

00:50:32.340 about,

00:50:33.920 I'm going to

00:50:34.680 be thinking

00:50:34.960 more about

00:50:35.640 stories

00:50:36.180 that kind

00:50:37.240 of are,

00:50:38.400 that my

00:50:38.840 eyes are

00:50:39.800 drawn to.

00:50:40.720 I understand

00:50:41.040 we all

00:50:41.360 have our

00:50:41.700 biases

00:50:42.060 and I'm

00:50:42.580 not saying

00:50:42.880 that we

00:50:43.160 don't,

00:50:43.500 I'm certainly

00:50:43.980 not perfect

00:50:44.940 on this

00:50:45.240 but I'm

00:50:45.560 telling you

00:50:46.100 that I am

00:50:46.560 a conservative

00:50:47.060 and these

00:50:47.980 are the

00:50:48.280 things that

00:50:49.380 I care

00:50:49.740 about.

00:50:50.220 I do try

00:50:50.780 to be as

00:50:51.180 even as

00:50:51.640 possible

00:50:52.080 and as

00:50:52.460 fair as

00:50:52.840 possible

00:50:53.300 too

00:50:53.660 and I

00:50:55.020 just don't

00:50:55.620 see that

00:50:56.100 from the

00:50:57.260 culture

00:50:57.600 warriors

00:50:58.160 who say

00:50:59.380 that they're

00:50:59.720 Christian

00:51:00.000 conservatives

00:51:00.460 or say

00:51:01.160 that they're

00:51:01.540 moderate

00:51:01.880 or say

00:51:02.420 that they're

00:51:02.840 apolitical

00:51:03.680 who have

00:51:04.380 so much

00:51:05.100 breath

00:51:05.640 to talk

00:51:06.340 about the

00:51:06.720 issues

00:51:07.020 over here

00:51:07.520 and not

00:51:08.280 about the

00:51:08.800 huge

00:51:09.300 glaring 0.68

00:51:09.760 issues

00:51:10.300 over here

00:51:10.780 and to

00:51:11.080 stand up

00:51:11.560 for Christians

00:51:12.080 around the

00:51:12.720 world who

00:51:13.480 are going

00:51:14.340 to jail

00:51:14.840 and being

00:51:15.480 legitimately

00:51:16.460 persecuted

00:51:17.780 for sharing

00:51:18.740 the gospel

00:51:19.380 and for

00:51:19.880 speaking truth

00:51:20.560 in the face

00:51:21.980 of perversion.

00:51:24.460 I mean,

00:51:24.740 shouldn't they

00:51:25.160 have something

00:51:25.620 to say about

00:51:26.300 that?

00:51:27.400 I don't know.

00:51:28.220 You can tell me

00:51:28.760 if I'm wrong

00:51:29.260 or maybe

00:51:29.980 you can point

00:51:30.660 me to where

00:51:31.080 they have

00:51:31.420 talked about

00:51:31.840 that and I

00:51:32.280 could be

00:51:32.520 completely off.

00:51:33.180 If that's

00:51:33.560 true,

00:51:33.900 I will retract

00:51:34.680 what I said

00:51:35.280 and I will

00:51:36.260 issue an

00:51:36.900 apology because

00:51:37.660 I don't want

00:51:38.300 to misrepresent.

00:51:39.880 Maybe I'm

00:51:40.700 completely wrong

00:51:41.360 about that.

00:51:42.400 But I think

00:51:43.140 Tucker, again,

00:51:44.240 makes a valid

00:51:44.940 point about

00:51:45.940 the silence

00:51:46.460 of those

00:51:46.780 people who

00:51:47.380 have a lot

00:51:48.680 of time to

00:51:49.200 spare for

00:51:49.840 the issues

00:51:50.460 that get

00:51:52.300 them articles

00:51:53.420 in the New

00:51:53.820 York Times

00:51:54.520 and the

00:51:56.260 Atlantic.

00:51:56.680 All right.

00:52:09.100 That's all

00:52:09.820 we have time

00:52:10.600 for today.

00:52:11.360 There were so

00:52:11.700 much, so many

00:52:12.820 other things I

00:52:13.360 wanted to talk

00:52:13.980 about.

00:52:14.220 I feel like I

00:52:14.720 have so much

00:52:15.280 to catch up

00:52:15.860 on that

00:52:16.760 Hershey's

00:52:17.700 women's ad

00:52:18.880 that included

00:52:20.640 a guy.

00:52:21.840 We'll talk

00:52:22.520 about it.

00:52:22.960 We'll talk

00:52:23.300 about it

00:52:23.600 sometime this

00:52:24.140 week.

00:52:24.380 We got a

00:52:24.840 lot of ground

00:52:25.520 to cover

00:52:25.880 this week.

00:52:26.680 A lot

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - March 07, 2023

Ep 766 ｜ The Gospel Coalition’s Scandalous Sex Article

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