Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 785 ｜ Abortion Pill Ban？ & NPR’s Accidentally Pro-Life Story

00:00:00.000 A ruling by a Texas judge may stop the distribution of the abortion pill in America.

00:00:06.460 Also, NPR shills for abortion by exploiting the tragedy of a mother who endured the loss

00:00:13.460 of her baby.

00:00:15.020 And at the beginning, some quick thoughts on the gospel and salvation.

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00:00:30.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:38.280 Happy Monday.

00:00:39.680 If you're watching this on YouTube, you can tell it's a little different.

00:00:43.160 Also, if you're listening to this, you can probably tell it's a little bit different too.

00:00:47.200 I have a different setup this week, a remote setup.

00:00:49.820 I'm out of town and so am unable to be in my regular studio.

00:00:56.040 I hope everyone had a wonderful Easter weekend.

00:00:59.120 We did.

00:00:59.880 We spent time with family.

00:01:01.300 We went to church, all that good stuff.

00:01:02.840 And then we also went to the Masters this weekend, which was so fun.

00:01:07.280 We went on Saturday and Sunday.

00:01:09.580 We didn't think that we were going to get to go on Sunday, but then some friends came

00:01:13.520 through for us on Saturday.

00:01:15.340 If you're a golf fan at all, you were watching.

00:01:17.820 It was miserably cold and rainy.

00:01:20.260 I don't like to complain about it because it's such a privilege to get to even go to the Masters.

00:01:25.080 And it was still really fun.

00:01:27.060 But man, oh man, it was a high of 50.

00:01:30.260 And I mean, we Southerners have a hard time with that kind of weather, but it was also windy and very rainy.

00:01:37.100 So it was very cold, not a great day to watch golf, but it was still a good experience.

00:01:42.040 I mean, we walked so much.

00:01:44.200 We really, because we thought that that was the only day that we were going to get to go.

00:01:48.280 My husband, who is a big golf fan, he wanted to walk the entire course, see everything, watch some players.

00:01:55.420 But we really just wanted to take in the experience, which of course, if you know, you know, includes the pimento cheese sandwiches, the peach ice cream sandwiches, which are all, this is part of the charm of the Masters, the uniqueness of the Masters.

00:02:09.680 They're all like $2 and under.

00:02:11.360 So that's really fun.

00:02:12.920 And, but then we got to go back, surprise, we got to go back on Sunday and it was actually beautiful.

00:02:18.240 The weather was great.

00:02:19.040 So after some Easter festivities in the morning, we got to go and that was great.

00:02:24.580 It was a really, it was a really, really fun weekend.

00:02:26.880 And I hope you all had a really fun weekend as well.

00:02:30.160 One thing that I was thinking about the resurrection and go back and listen to Thursday's episode.

00:02:36.200 If you haven't already with an apologetics pastor and a new Testament scholar talking about the proof that we have for the resurrection, such an encouraging conversation.

00:02:44.680 And per your request, I will definitely be having him back.

00:02:49.200 I think we'll probably do some kind of series with him and just ask the apologetics questions or the questions that you have about the faith and the Bible to him.

00:02:58.220 I think that would be really fun.

00:02:59.880 So one thing that I was thinking about though, because I got this message and I think conservative Christians get this kind of message or get this kind of comment a lot.

00:03:09.420 And I don't say this for you guys to feel bad for me or anything like that.

00:03:13.500 You guys know I've chosen to have this job and talk about the things that I do.

00:03:17.700 So I've been dealing with mean, spiteful messages for a long time, but, and I don't really talk about them, but this kind of message, I'm sure a lot of you can relate to because you've probably heard something like this in your own life.

00:03:32.420 If you've ever stood for a life inside the womb, or you've ever stood for a so-called controversial topic, like the reality of God, making us male and female things like that, that have turned into these culture war hot button issues today.

00:03:44.780 And this person messages me, obviously progressive.

00:03:47.760 You can tell because the pronouns are in the profile, what they post about.

00:03:51.200 And she says, you know, people like you are the exact reason I'm not a Christian anymore.

00:03:57.860 And like I said, don't feel bad for me because the number of messages that I get of positivity and encouragement, uh, so far outnumber those kinds of messages.

00:04:09.520 Of course, those kinds of messages, they come through and they can be hurtful or some kinds of messages can be hurtful and mean and all that kind of stuff.

00:04:17.840 But the messages and the emails and the interactions, the conversations that I have with the vast, vast, vast majority of you that are encouraging, that are edifying, that are uplifting, that tell me that by God's grace, he's used something that I said or something that I wrote or something that one of my guests said to either change your mind on something consequential,

00:04:38.200 or even help you understand the gospel, um, they so far outweigh any of those negative messages, actually an amazing tweet the other day from one of you saying that, um, you were suicidal, you were in the throes of postpartum depression, but then you were listening to my podcast and you heard the gospel for the first time, even after having grown up in the church and it changed your life, not me, but the gospel itself.

00:05:00.740 That's just what the grace of God does.

00:05:02.060 So those kinds of messages are, they are many times more than this kind of message, but okay, let me get to, let me get to my point.

00:05:12.380 Uh, this person said, you know, you're the kind of person that made me not be a Christian anymore.

00:05:17.200 And I'm sure you guys have heard something like that and it could be really difficult.

00:05:21.120 You can wonder, okay, should I not be talking about the things that I do?

00:05:24.260 Should I just be like, oh, you know, whatever you want to do is great.

00:05:28.300 We're just supposed to be all about acceptance and tolerance and just nice and never talk about any conscious, anything controversial or divisive quote unquote.

00:05:37.180 But the reality is whenever you get a message like that or hear a comment like that, and you're tempted to think, wow, maybe I shouldn't say the controversial truth about these things.

00:05:47.180 Maybe it is too mean to say that men can't be women or life inside the womb matters, whatever it is.

00:05:53.660 Keep in mind, keep in mind that that person is not an unbeliever because of you or because of any other person.

00:06:03.680 That person is an unbeliever because they don't believe that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead, period.

00:06:09.200 They don't believe that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead.

00:06:12.440 Has nothing to do with you.

00:06:13.840 It has nothing to do with the negative interaction that they had with a Christian.

00:06:16.660 Has nothing to do with political disagreements.

00:06:19.360 It has nothing even to do with maybe very real and very valid and very sad past experiences that they've had with the church.

00:06:29.300 Maybe they even suffered real and horrible and unjust kind of abuse from the church.

00:06:37.560 All of those things might be true.

00:06:39.280 Or maybe they just had a disagreement that they counted as bigotry or whatever.

00:06:43.820 All of those things might be true, but none of those reasons are the ultimate reason why anyone is not a Christian.

00:06:49.960 Anyone who is not a Christian is not a Christian because they don't believe that Jesus Christ was resurrected.

00:06:56.720 If you believe that this person named Jesus predicted his own death and predicted being raised again, then that changes everything.

00:07:09.540 You have to listen to everything that he has to say that validates everything that he said before he was raised from the dead.

00:07:18.360 If you believe that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead, that he then is God made flesh, that he then ascended to be at the right hand of the father.

00:07:29.020 If you then believe as a consequence of believing in the fact of the resurrection, that he was actually God and that he was sacrificed on our behalf to reconcile us to a holy God who requires a payment for our sins, then it doesn't matter what anyone has said to you.

00:07:50.720 It doesn't matter the negative interactions that you've had with people.

00:07:53.900 It doesn't matter the maybe poor influence that has been had on you by someone who misrepresented Christ.

00:08:01.640 It doesn't matter if you believe that someone is a bigot or offensive or divisive or whatever.

00:08:08.840 None of those things would be a big enough obstacle to you in believing in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.

00:08:17.100 The resurrection is way bigger than anyone's personality, anyone's political views, any bad interaction that someone may have had with a Christian.

00:08:29.180 And so I understand people try to put that responsibility on you like you tell too much truth or you're too political or you're too divisive or your tone was off or you don't say the things that I want you to say or you hurt me.

00:08:42.440 You legitimately betrayed me at some point and that's why I'm not a Christian.

00:08:46.040 All of those things may have made legitimately a bad impression on a person.

00:08:50.680 And I'm not saying those things, some of those things are good.

00:08:53.620 Some of those things are fine.

00:08:54.780 But some of the bad interactions that people have had with a Christian, none of those are the ultimate reason why anyone on earth is not a Christian.

00:09:04.320 Anyone who is not a Christian is not a Christian because they don't believe that Jesus was raised from the dead. 0.68

00:09:10.680 Therefore, they don't believe that he's God.

00:09:13.320 They don't believe that his death was a sufficient sacrifice for sins.

00:09:19.340 They don't believe in the gospel.

00:09:21.300 That is ultimately why they are not a Christian. 0.95

00:09:24.420 So you, Christian, don't allow yourself to be beholden to a comment like that or to be beholden to the opinions of unbelievers. 0.61

00:09:35.060 Remember, the gospel is a stench of death to those who are dying, to those who are not in Christ.

00:09:42.360 And so, yes, we should speak the truth in love.

00:09:45.920 Yes, we should try to be as persuasive as possible.

00:09:48.380 But don't allow comments like that or the fear of comments like that to inhibit you from speaking the truth, from saying what needs to be said.

00:09:58.480 Of course, the world is always going to call it mean.

00:10:01.280 It doesn't matter how kindly you say it, how lovingly you say it, how empathetically you say it.

00:10:06.920 If you go against the progressive, secular, humanist zeitgeist of today, you are still going to be called a bigot.

00:10:14.680 You are still going to be told you're the reason why people hate Christians.

00:10:18.320 No, people hate Christians because they hate Christ, period.

00:10:22.600 So just keep that in mind.

00:10:24.060 I hope that actually encourages you to be bold.

00:10:27.300 Remember, Ephesians 1.5,

00:10:28.620 In love, he predestined us for adoption as sons before he laid the foundations of the world, okay?

00:10:34.040 So even though we should do our absolute best to be proper representations of Christ and to be, by the power of the Holy Spirit, ambassadors of his love and his gospel,

00:10:46.100 understand that God's sovereignty cannot be thwarted by a bad impression that someone gets of Christians because of what they deem to be a negative interaction.

00:10:58.620 All right.

00:11:10.420 Before we even get into the Texas story about the ruling from the judge about, um, about, uh, me, me, me, okay.

00:11:22.480 How do I pronounce this?

00:11:23.820 I, I, okay.

00:11:25.120 Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

00:11:27.480 I always get, uh, I always forget which syllable needs the emphasis when we're talking about that horrid abortion pill.

00:11:34.640 It's myth of Pristone.

00:11:35.820 So we're going to talk about this and that kind of is the context for this story.

00:11:39.700 But because so many of you sent me this NPR story, I wanted to start with this and react to it.

00:11:45.020 So many of you asked me to respond to it.

00:11:47.940 And the summary is that NPR published a story last week, April 6th, about a Texas mom who they believe tragically could not get an abortion at 20 weeks due to Texas's abortion law restricting abortion after a heartbeat is protected.

00:12:04.520 So they were hoping to, and they successfully did this on Instagram provoke sympathy for women who have to bring their pregnancies to term because of what they would call this draconian abortion law that was made possible by the Dobbs decision that was published last year that overturned Roe v. Wade.

00:12:22.920 So here is the caption and we'll put up, uh, some of the pictures that they put up in this, uh, on this Instagram post.

00:12:30.420 Here's the caption from NPR.

00:12:32.120 Her name was Halo and she was born in Texas last week on March 29th, two months early and weighing three pounds.

00:12:37.480 She lived for four hours, dying in the arms of her father, uh, Louis Valisana, or it's probably, uh, Viasana.

00:12:45.200 Her mother, Samantha Cassiano knew their baby wouldn't survive long because she had, um, anencephaly part of Halo's brain and skull never developed. 0.84

00:12:54.740 Now they can't afford to give their newborn daughter the funeral.

00:12:57.900 They would like to give her a Cassiano got the diagnosis three days after Christmas at a prenatal appointment.

00:13:04.640 When she was 20 weeks pregnant, I was told that she's incompatible with life.

00:13:08.400 She says I was crushed.

00:13:09.700 She asked her OBGYN what her options were.

00:13:11.900 Cassiano says her doctor told her, well, because of the new law, you don't have any options.

00:13:16.240 You have to go on with your pregnancy. 0.82

00:13:18.520 Texas has among the strictest abortion laws in the country, says NPR, with three overlapping bans.

00:13:24.160 One abortion ban predated Roe v. Wade.

00:13:26.520 Another was triggered when Roe was overturned and comes with a maximum penalty of life in prison for providing, not getting, but providing an abortion in Texas.

00:13:35.800 There's also SBA, which allows people to bring civil charges for aiding or abetting an abortion in the state.

00:13:42.960 So that means that you're not going to go to jail, um, for, for doing so, but you could have to pay some kind of fine.

00:13:50.120 We talked about SBA when it was passed a while ago.

00:13:53.420 Cassiano knew that Texas banned abortions, but she didn't think these laws would apply in a situation where the fetus was certain to die.

00:13:59.580 But the laws do apply.

00:14:01.080 A narrow exception allows abortions for when the mother's life or a major bodily function is in imminent danger.

00:14:07.740 But there are no exceptions in Texas law for the diagnosis of a fetal anomaly, no matter how severe.

00:14:12.960 In fact, very few states with abortion bans have such exceptions.

00:14:16.840 Cassiano wishes she could have ended the pregnancy in Texas as soon as she got the anencephaly diagnosis.

00:14:23.340 And so that's basically the summary of the entire, entire article.

00:14:28.260 And if you look at the comments, the comments are exactly what NPR was hoping to provoke.

00:14:33.940 All of these women saying, wow, this is so awful that this mother had to go through this.

00:14:38.960 How awful that this mother had to hold her baby after the baby was born.

00:14:42.600 How awful that they have to pay for a funeral now.

00:14:45.580 How tragic.

00:14:47.160 And people saying, well, Texas, the taxpayers should have to cover the funeral costs of this family.

00:14:54.700 To be able to bury their child.

00:14:58.660 So here's what's implicit in all of this.

00:15:01.280 What's implicit in all of this, even though they don't say it outright.

00:15:04.140 This is the entire point of the article.

00:15:07.260 The point is that she should have just been able to abort her baby at 20 weeks.

00:15:13.880 Then she wouldn't have had to pay for a funeral.

00:15:15.960 Then I guess she wouldn't have had to deal with the trauma of birthing her baby and holding her baby.

00:15:22.540 How am I supposed to be sad about that fact?

00:15:26.360 I am very sad that this child had a fetal anomaly.

00:15:29.120 You can't really survive anencephaly.

00:15:31.960 Really, sometimes in rare cases, the baby might live past a few hours.

00:15:37.280 Maybe sometimes a few weeks, at least from what I've read.

00:15:40.200 I don't have personal experience from this, but from the information that we've gathered in our research, there really isn't some kind of cure for this.

00:15:48.440 And so I'm very sad that these parents, this mom and dad, had to experience this.

00:15:53.260 From what I've read, this was a very wanted baby.

00:15:55.520 And so any parent would feel absolutely crushed to hear that at the 20-week anatomy scan.

00:16:00.720 I just had my own 20-week anatomy scan.

00:16:04.120 And of course, you're going in with so many nerves, just hoping that the doctor, the sonographer tells you that everything is okay.

00:16:11.660 And maybe you're waiting until then to find out the gender. 0.99

00:16:15.300 And so there's so much excitement at that point.

00:16:17.080 You've been able to feel probably your baby start kicking.

00:16:20.540 And so I really feel for this mother.

00:16:22.460 I feel for this father who wanted this baby, who went into their 20-week anatomy scan, so excited to see their little baby's face, only to find out that she has this terrible anomaly that means that she won't survive.

00:16:35.760 So I feel so much sadness and so much devastation for them, knowing that they were absolutely crushed.

00:16:44.580 And I also feel for her that for, you know, 20 or so, well, I guess not 20 full weeks since this baby was born two months early, but several weeks after this, she probably felt her baby move.

00:16:57.120 She felt this life inside of her.

00:16:58.820 She knew that there was another heartbeat inside of her that she wasn't going to get to see grow up.

00:17:03.760 All of the things that she bought for the nursery, all the plans that she had, the names that she had picked out.

00:17:08.720 I mean, she knew that this child that she loved, that she created, would not grow up to fulfill all of the milestones and all of the memories that she had already projected and predicted for her.

00:17:22.340 So I feel so much sadness for this family.

00:17:25.600 I do not feel sadness that they were not able to abort this child.

00:17:30.220 Look, this child is still a human being made in the image of God.

00:17:35.460 And either way, the child had to come out.

00:17:38.720 And so why would I feel sadness that this child was not dismembered inside the womb?

00:17:47.020 That doesn't make it better.

00:17:49.780 And what NPR is saying, oh, they had to have, now they have to pay for a funeral.

00:17:54.980 They have to pay for a funeral for this child.

00:17:57.400 Okay, so you're admitting that there would have been no funeral for this moving living child had she been aborted at 20 weeks gestation?

00:18:05.880 I mean, that is a fully formed, except for in this case with the fetal anomaly, the skull wasn't fully formed.

00:18:13.020 That's a fully formed, moving, kicking, heart beating child.

00:18:18.080 So you are admitting that this child would have just been discarded as toxic waste?

00:18:25.680 Also, NPR is arguing that I guess there would not have been trauma had this mother aborted her child at 20 weeks.

00:18:34.940 I'm sorry.

00:18:35.540 I don't believe that.

00:18:36.840 As you saw, if you're watching on YouTube, these sweet pictures, this mother got to hold on to her child before she died.

00:18:45.820 She got to hold her little hand.

00:18:48.740 She got to see her daughter's little face before she took her last breaths.

00:18:54.360 You're telling me that that is more traumatic than knowing that you poisoned and then dismembered your child while she was wiggling inside your womb?

00:19:05.340 I'm sorry.

00:19:05.960 I don't buy that.

00:19:07.460 I feel very badly for this family.

00:19:09.780 I feel terrible for the child, too, that she had to suffer.

00:19:13.560 But why is it better?

00:19:14.860 Why is it morally preferable for this child to suffer inside the womb rather than suffer outside of the womb? 0.65

00:19:22.680 She got to see the face of her mother for her dying breath.

00:19:25.820 She got to be held.

00:19:26.780 She got to know how loved she was rather than just feeling the sterile and and cold grip of the medical tools, the surgical tools that would have been used to tear her apart limb from limb.

00:19:41.320 And yet most of the comments that you see in this NPR post are people saying how awful this is, how unsympathetic this is, that this isn't caring about women.

00:19:54.180 This isn't caring about children.

00:19:55.840 This is so cruel.

00:19:57.220 How can you possibly do this?

00:19:58.800 How could you think like if you have a if you have a heart and a mind and a soul that functioned, that it would be better to poison and dismember this baby that has to come out of the womb anyway?

00:20:10.000 And so I am again, I feel for this family.

00:20:16.160 I don't see how this story should convince me.

00:20:21.300 That abortion needs to be less restricted.

00:20:26.320 I don't understand this one.

00:20:28.960 Like there are some stories out there that we've seen where the mothers almost die.

00:20:33.640 And basically because of the neglect and the fear of the doctors and nurses, they don't do anything until this mother is literally about to take her dying breath.

00:20:43.400 And then they remove the child from the womb. 0.76

00:20:47.060 By the way, all pro-lifers understand that there is a reason to remove the child from the womb. 0.53

00:20:53.720 If the mother is about to die and as NPR even admits Texas law, all pro-life laws in America allow for that. 0.83

00:21:03.460 Like if the mother in Texas, it even says a major bodily function is being disrupted or is being damaged in some way.

00:21:11.200 It doesn't even have to be death.

00:21:12.780 The baby can actually be aborted.

00:21:14.460 Now, pro-lifers would say early delivery is the option.

00:21:19.640 The child has to be removed from the womb anyway. 0.97

00:21:22.000 So even if the child dies minutes after birth, that is better than the dismemberment and the poisoning of abortion.

00:21:29.620 But look, if a woman is pregnant, she's 19 weeks. 0.86

00:21:34.180 We know that baby isn't going to survive outside the womb, but she is dying because of the pregnancy.

00:21:38.320 The baby has to be removed.

00:21:39.400 We understand that a choice has to be made, and we do believe that the baby should be delivered at that point.

00:21:46.480 Texas law allows for that.

00:21:47.940 Pro-life laws allow for that.

00:21:49.720 And unfortunately, either because of the hospitals, the hospital associations, the lawyers that represent these hospitals that are choosing to be opaque or choosing to be vague or choosing to fearmonger maybe for the sake of politics,

00:22:05.520 a lot of doctors, I guess, are operating under fear and won't actually protect their patients in these very difficult situations.

00:22:12.780 And so that, okay, might be a reason to make these laws as crystal clear as possible to ensure that these laws are extremely transparent when it comes to saving the life of the mother and things like that.

00:22:29.960 However, this doesn't convince me at all that these laws are problematic.

00:22:36.480 This particular story just sounds like a tragedy that was endured, but that ended in a way that at least allowed for a moment of love and connection between parents and her child that abortion never would have.

00:22:55.700 Abortion would have just ended in destruction and death and cruelty and brutality. 0.99

00:23:02.920 And so it's really sad.

00:23:04.360 It's really sad for me that the commenters don't see that.

00:23:09.060 And, you know, I will pray for this family.

00:23:12.060 I mean, this will stick with them forever.

00:23:14.300 But I am glad that they got to see their precious daughter's face before she took her last breath.

00:23:21.220 This is happening.

00:23:22.480 These stories are still going to be churned out.

00:23:25.700 By outlets like NPR, which Twitter just specified is state-funded media.

00:23:31.820 It is.

00:23:32.220 It's funded by the U.S.

00:23:34.120 And it is going to repeat all of the Democratic talking points.

00:23:37.420 It always does.

00:23:39.700 These stories are going to continue to be propagated by outlets like NPR because there is a continued battle about access or over access to abortion,

00:23:52.200 including the abortion pill, which is very popular among women who are seeking abortions.

00:23:57.940 And so that is the latest development in this war that centers on the so-called right to kill a child just because the child happens to be small and exists inside the womb.

00:24:13.660 All right.

00:24:26.380 Let's talk about the abortion pill.

00:24:29.920 OK, so there is a judge, a Trump-appointed judge, and his name is Matthew Kazmarek.

00:24:38.980 Kazmarek also had to look at the pronunciation of that last name to make sure I had it correct.

00:24:43.640 So he is the United States District Judge of the District Court for the Northern District of Texas.

00:24:51.700 Like I said, he's a Trump-appointed justice.

00:24:54.620 He issued a ruling which could stop the prescribing and distribution of mifepristone, one of two drugs used to perform abortions via a pill.

00:25:06.920 So this pill is typically used in the first six to eight weeks of pregnancy.

00:25:13.080 After that, we've gone through the different methods for abortion and they get I mean, they're all brutal because you are all in a very violent way ending the life of an innocent and defenseless human being who has been a human being since the point of conception.

00:25:32.180 But as far as the description goes, it really gets more and more invasive and more violent and brutal the further into pregnancy that you go.

00:25:40.520 But this is still murder.

00:25:42.540 It's still killing a child, even if it's just through a pill.

00:25:47.160 And so obviously pro-lifers, pro-life organizations and pro-life legislators have tried to stop the distribution and the prescription of this pill, which has been advocated for very fiercely by the Biden administration.

00:26:04.160 It's also been used as a way to get around some state laws that ban abortion.

00:26:11.080 People have been able to get pills from places that are outside of their red state so that they can kill their child between six to eight weeks.

00:26:18.580 And there has also been decisions made that make it easy for someone to get this via mail and to not even have to see a doctor.

00:26:26.220 I mean, consider that think if you are a woman who believes that you are six weeks pregnant, but maybe you are actually 12 weeks pregnant.

00:26:35.240 Obviously, that's going to be dangerous for the child inside your womb, but that's also going to be very dangerous for you.

00:26:40.940 That child is going to be really too big to be just passed through you.

00:26:47.460 You are going to end up having to go to the emergency room.

00:26:51.580 And that also puts a woman's life in jeopardy. 1.00

00:26:54.760 So for the people who say you're pro-abortion pill, you're pro-abortion pill by mail, you shouldn't even have to see a midwife or a nurse or a doctor or anything to see how far along you are in your pregnancy because you're pro-woman.

00:27:08.060 No, you're not.

00:27:09.420 You might be pro-death, but you're not pro-woman. 0.96

00:27:11.960 This is not safe for women either. 0.99

00:27:13.680 And it's obviously, because abortion never is, safe for the child inside the womb.

00:27:19.120 So he actually stayed his opinion, this judge, for seven days to allow the Biden administration time to appeal.

00:27:25.760 Shortly after the opinion came out, a Washington state federal judge issued a contradictory ruling.

00:27:30.220 The conflict could eventually escalate the battle to the Supreme Court.

00:27:33.920 And this all stems from a lawsuit that was filed by the Alliance Defending Freedom, arguing that the FDA never had the authority to approve the drug.

00:27:41.900 Like, I love Alliance Defending Freedom.

00:27:44.420 Like, I would recommend supporting them financially if you can.

00:27:47.640 They and a lot of other freedom-loving, human rights-loving law firms are just doing incredible work.

00:27:56.840 And, like, we should be all grateful and support them however we can.

00:28:00.200 So let's talk a little bit more about this and what actually went on here.

00:28:08.640 So as I said, this is a very popular method for abortion.

00:28:13.140 More than half of abortions in the U.S. are completed using pills.

00:28:16.660 And so if this ruling prevails, if the Trump appointee judge's ruling prevails, this could mean the biggest blow to abortion, abortion access, since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

00:28:31.120 It would make it really difficult for women to obtain an abortion for a lot of women who they haven't gone into Planned Parenthood or they don't live in a state where they can go into a Planned Parenthood and get an abortion. 0.99

00:28:47.300 And it's not entirely clear at this point how the ruling is going to affect the immediate availability of this drug.

00:29:01.860 Some people are saying that we shouldn't enforce or that the FDA shouldn't follow this ruling at all or that they don't even have to follow the ruling.

00:29:11.920 The FDA is probably going to appeal the decision, but the legal status of the drug is probably going to be the subject of confusion for a while, especially with this other ruling coming out of Washington.

00:29:28.600 And so this has been on the market for a long time.

00:29:31.140 Obviously, after the overturning of Roe v. Wade, there has been a fight over it, whether this should be available or not.

00:29:41.560 But so Kaczmarek, he said in his ruling that the FDA rushed the process to approve this drug and actually violated federal standards.

00:29:52.460 He says the court does not second guess FDA's decision making lightly.

00:29:56.500 But here, FDA acquiesced on its legitimate safety concerns in violation of its statutory duty based on plainly unsound reasoning and studies that did not support its conclusions.

00:30:07.540 Kaczmarek also hinted that the agency might have given into political pressure to approve the drug and alleged that it stonewalled any potential challenges to its approval.

00:30:17.240 He found that the approval process for mifepristone was flawed, which would revoke access not just in the district where the case happened, but the entire but the entire country.

00:30:31.020 So Kaczmarek is talking about when the FDA approved this pill 20 years ago.

00:30:36.520 He's saying that they basically prevented any judicial review of this decision until now.

00:30:42.260 That's why it's taking 20 plus years for a judge to rule on this.

00:30:47.160 He's saying that it was 20 years ago that they rushed the process, that they were listening to political pressure rather than looking at the real safety of the drug.

00:30:56.180 Because as we mentioned, there are a lot of side effects that come to this drug, whether or not you actually see a doctor before you are prescribed the drug.

00:31:05.180 There are a lot of side effects and the FDA approved it.

00:31:07.680 This judge is saying not based on science, but because of political pressure, which we know is true of the FDA.

00:31:13.160 But he said that this has been true for a very long time.

00:31:17.140 And so this is just going to cause a lot of chaos and confusion.

00:31:21.620 But for right now, it does look like this is a win in the way of protecting that life in inside inside the womb.

00:31:30.440 Also, it's important to note that in 2016, the FDA increased the gestational age of the unborn baby when abortion drugs are allowed from seven weeks to 10, reduced the number of required office visits from three to one, allowed non-doctors to prescribe and administer the pills and eliminated their requirement for prescribers to report non-fatal adverse events from chemical abortion pills.

00:31:51.740 And in 2021, during COVID and after Joe Biden was elected president, the FDA announced that it would allow abortion pills, as we already say, to be dispensed through the mail.

00:32:04.540 And so Kaczmarek's concerns about what they did 20 years ago, I would say there are even bigger concerns today that it's obvious that this is not about health.

00:32:14.020 This is not about women's rights, even.

00:32:15.980 It's not about protecting them.

00:32:17.020 It's not even about bodily autonomy.

00:32:18.920 It's actually about making babies and their moms as vulnerable as possible.

00:32:24.200 I mean, you are risking so many lives with a move like this because the abortion lobby is not only so powerful, but it's also irrational.

00:32:32.220 And that is, of course, as we've talked about what sin does to you, it gives you a heart of stone and a brain of mush.

00:32:38.240 Like you aren't even able to think logically, much less compassionately about the consequences of your decisions.

00:32:45.840 So how is the left reacting to this?

00:32:48.260 Of course, screaming like banshees. 0.93

00:32:50.780 I would say in addition to gender ideology advocates, abortion advocates, especially I'm talking like the activist class, the shout your abortion type people, which I would say accounts for a larger percentage of people on the left who are pro abortion.

00:33:10.040 Then a lot of people on the left want to admit, including Democrats in Congress, they are cruel.

00:33:17.220 They are violent. 0.58

00:33:18.780 They are, as I said, irrational. 0.83

00:33:21.260 In some cases, I think demon possessed.

00:33:23.620 Like if you looked at the reaction to the overturning of Roe v. Wade, that just said states can states can decide the firebombing of pregnancy clinics, the absolute slander and libel about what these pregnancy clinics do.

00:33:40.660 Just outright hate and vitriol and violence and banshee, like screaming from these people.

00:33:50.540 It's I mean, there's no other explanation for this except for a worship of Satan, which I mean, you you do.

00:33:59.720 So whether you say that you're a Satan worshiper and or not, Ephesians 2 makes that very clear.

00:34:04.900 You are either worshiping the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work of the sons of disobedience, or you are worshiping Christ by grace through faith.

00:34:14.460 And so definitely satanic following and satanic possession there.

00:34:18.500 But I think it's extremely blatant when you're looking at gender ideology and abortion ideology.

00:34:22.620 And so they worship abortion so much, they are willing to sacrifice even children on the altar of progressive ideology that they are saying, these anti-fascist leftists, they are basically saying that the federal government should override the checks and balances that are supposed to be provided by the judicial branch of the government and just say, nope, abortion pills for all.

00:34:49.280 AOC was just talking to Anderson Cooper on CNN about this.

00:34:54.240 And here is her recommendation.

00:34:56.680 There has been thought, I believe, given to this.

00:34:58.960 Senator Ron Wyden has already issued statements, for example, advising what we should do in a situation like this, which I concur, which is that I believe that the Biden administration should ignore this ruling.

00:35:12.940 Yeah, so should ignore the ruling.

00:35:15.420 Now, I know it gets tiresome to point out hypocrisy, but let's think about this just for a second, just for funsies.

00:35:23.780 Let's think about if Republicans said, oh, I don't like a particular ruling, so we are just going to ignore it.

00:35:30.680 They would call that fascism.

00:35:31.860 They would call that Nazi-like, somehow Christian nationalism, white supremacy.

00:35:38.940 Oh, we're just going to override the checks and balances which protect us from being a dictatorship, that protect us from just being a monarchy.

00:35:48.700 This pro-democracy crowd says, well, we should just override the checks and balances to ensure that we get what we want.

00:35:56.760 And these are the same people, these are the same people that make it such a huge deal when someone like Governor Ron DeSantis says, you know what, I'm going to use the tools constitutionally available to me to ensure that other entities like Disney, for example, are not trampling on the rights and the voices of the constituents in my state. 0.92

00:36:17.400 They call that fascism, but it's not fascism when a president with an iron fist simply says, we are not going to ignore a ruling by a judge simply because we are that desperate to allow women to go hire someone to kill their babies.

00:36:33.900 How do you not see?

00:36:35.300 How do you not see that that's the side of evil?

00:36:37.700 Like if you are a Christian or a professing Christian, how do you not see that? 0.99

00:36:41.760 I understand the evil people are evil, evil going to evil, depraved going to depraved again, mushy brains, minds of oatmeal.

00:36:50.980 I don't expect evil people to see that they're evil, but I hope people that fancy themselves discerning, that fancy themselves on the side of goodness, that fancy themselves certainly on the side of Christ would see maybe those advocating for the slaughter of unborn children.

00:37:08.540 And who are willing to subvert and who are willing to subvert the democratic processes that we've put in place to try to stave off tyranny are wicked.

00:37:19.160 Like, I don't know, maybe that side is wicked.

00:37:22.300 Here is Xavier Becerra.

00:37:25.880 He is the head of the health and human services department under Biden.

00:37:32.640 I think signaling that they probably are going to ignore this ruling because, according to him, this is just downright unpatriotic.

00:37:41.640 What's your message to women and to medical providers who want to get this drug and use this drug?

00:37:48.180 This is not America.

00:37:49.320 What you saw by that one judge in that one court in that one state, that's not America.

00:37:54.560 America goes by the evidence.

00:37:57.720 America does what's fair.

00:37:59.580 America does what is transparent and we can show that what we do is for the right reasons.

00:38:05.100 That's not America.

00:38:07.520 That's funny.

00:38:08.760 That's funny.

00:38:09.400 He was one of the most, probably the most pro-abortion attorneys general of California that has ever existed.

00:38:19.640 Of course, he believes himself to be a devout Catholic, but has been one of the most just brutally and vengefully pro-abortion officials in American history.

00:38:33.740 I mean, the way that he targeted pro-life pregnancy centers when he was in California, when he was the attorney general of California.

00:38:42.240 I mean, nothing short of just absolutely wicked, absolutely evil.

00:38:48.180 That's not America.

00:38:49.620 Do you think Xavier Becerra has the authority to say what is America and what is not?

00:38:54.560 And in another sense, maybe I'll agree.

00:38:56.740 Maybe I agree with him.

00:38:58.080 I mean, a lot of Americans, unfortunately, are very pro-abortion.

00:39:02.200 But if he's talking about like American institutions, if he's talking about justice, if he's talking about liberty and justice for all and equality under the law, I'm not really sure that his opinion is sound.

00:39:13.060 And it's just ironic that he's saying here, you know, we are transparent in America.

00:39:18.540 We show that what we're doing is for the right reasons.

00:39:22.980 He doesn't even take the time to explain himself.

00:39:25.940 Has he ever taken the time to explain why he believes that poisoning and dismembering babies inside the womb is sound, is constitutional? 0.99

00:39:35.020 I don't think he has because the left doesn't have to do that.

00:39:37.020 They have the media.

00:39:37.760 They have propaganda to cover for them.

00:39:40.520 All right.

00:39:41.740 We've got Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:39:43.620 Of course, she's got something to say about all of this.

00:39:46.420 Well, I think she is trying to say something about all of this.

00:39:50.440 We've got Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:39:55.940 OK, here's a vice president, Kamala Harris, reacting to what she believes is just such an egregious ruling by this judge. 0.94

00:40:10.300 There is no question that the president and I are going to stand with the women of America and do everything we can to ensure that women have the ability to make decisions about their health care, their reproductive health care in a manner that is what they need.

00:40:26.840 And they decide that not their government.

00:40:28.760 What?

00:40:32.220 What?

00:40:33.960 Also, I just I'm sorry.

00:40:36.220 I know this is kind of petty, but her I think her hand gestures are trying to overcompensate for the lack of strength in her words, the lack of security that she has in what she's saying and her ability to communicate.

00:40:51.580 Because she tries to be so aggressive with her fists and with her hand motions. 1.00

00:40:56.540 And it's actually, I think, overcompensating for her the just the instability, both in her voice and actually in the words that she chooses, her inability to really make coherent arguments or to ever really make a point in anything that she's saying.

00:41:12.540 And if you follow the logic, if you can, of what she is attempting to argue here, really, she was she would be saying that there should be no restrictions on abortion at all.

00:41:22.960 So a woman should decide when and how she wants the child in her womb to be killed. 1.00

00:41:29.180 And the government shouldn't have anything to say about it.

00:41:31.920 Now, why?

00:41:33.000 Why shouldn't the government have anything to say about it?

00:41:35.840 It's not just the woman's body. 0.97

00:41:37.280 If it were just the woman's body, the government probably wouldn't have a lot to say about it. 0.99

00:41:40.980 But by the way, like laws restrict what you can do with your body.

00:41:45.020 That's not new.

00:41:46.140 You don't have complete bodily autonomy.

00:41:48.100 Your bodily autonomy stops when you are exercising that autonomy to infringe upon another person's right.

00:41:56.880 So when people say, oh, I don't want the government policing my body.

00:42:00.460 Look, the government polices your body.

00:42:02.140 When they say that you can't drunk drive.

00:42:04.580 When they say that you can't take certain drugs.

00:42:07.180 When they say that you can't assault someone.

00:42:09.300 When you can't sexually assault someone. 0.58

00:42:12.760 When you can't murder someone.

00:42:15.780 That is the government policing your body to protect the rights of other people.

00:42:20.340 And in some cases, even to protect you.

00:42:22.740 But also to protect your community.

00:42:25.300 The people who might be affected by the drugs that you take.

00:42:30.940 By the substances that you buy.

00:42:33.460 The violence that you inflict on those around you.

00:42:36.320 So yes, the government is in the business of policing people's bodies.

00:42:40.780 Especially when that body is being used to infringe upon the safety and the rights of another person.

00:42:47.840 And abortion does that. 1.00

00:42:50.000 Abortion does that. 1.00

00:42:50.760 So really it comes down to whether or not life inside the womb.

00:42:55.100 The human being.

00:42:55.940 That's not a question.

00:42:56.960 It's a human being from the point of conception.

00:42:58.540 It's not anything else.

00:42:59.700 There's nothing else that it can be.

00:43:01.020 It's not a turvist humbler. 0.77

00:43:02.280 It's not a summer squash.

00:43:03.320 It's not maybe going to be a frog from the moment of conception.

00:43:06.980 This is a human being with its own unique DNA.

00:43:11.220 Its gender is already determined at the point of conception.

00:43:14.420 Its eye color is already determined at the point of conception.

00:43:16.840 This is a human being.

00:43:17.780 The entire argument.

00:43:19.520 The entire debate is on whether or not that human being is a person with rights.

00:43:25.840 That should be protected.

00:43:27.260 If you are pro-choice.

00:43:29.060 Pro-choice.

00:43:29.760 You believe that it should be a choice. 1.00

00:43:31.200 It should be legal to kill that child.

00:43:32.840 You don't believe that that is a human being that is worthy of protection. 0.93

00:43:36.540 You don't believe that human being has rights.

00:43:39.000 The pro-life side does.

00:43:40.620 We all know it's a human being. 0.97

00:43:42.560 You can try to argue otherwise, but you would just be scientifically silly at that point.

00:43:47.800 You just don't believe if you're a pro-choice that it's a person with value and that has

00:43:51.660 rights and you need to be able to argue.

00:43:54.460 Why has Xavier Becerra ever done that?

00:43:56.840 Has Kamala Harris ever been able to do that? 1.00

00:43:58.480 Has AOC ever been able to do that?

00:43:59.900 Has Joe Biden ever been able to do that?

00:44:01.240 Tell me why.

00:44:01.820 Is it location?

00:44:03.260 Is it size?

00:44:04.120 Is it the stage of development?

00:44:06.140 Is it because they might have a bad life?

00:44:07.880 Is it because there's something wrong with them?

00:44:10.060 All right.

00:44:10.420 Apply all of those factors that you use to justify killing the child inside the womb to 0.50

00:44:14.980 people outside of the womb and see how far you can go without realizing that your logic

00:44:19.900 makes you a very, very evil person that advocates for murder of human beings just because they

00:44:25.660 can't defend themselves. 0.51

00:44:26.840 Do you justify murder for human beings who are poor, human beings who are victims of abuse,

00:44:33.380 human beings that might have a bad future, human beings who may be a weight on the system

00:44:39.820 one day, human beings whose parents don't love them or want them, human beings who have

00:44:43.480 a disability, human beings outside of the womb who are smaller than other human beings, 0.99

00:44:48.000 less developed than other human beings, less strong, less capable with a lower capacity

00:44:57.060 than other human beings?

00:44:58.000 If you don't use those things to justify killing people outside of the womb, why do you use

00:45:02.740 them as justifications to kill people inside of the womb?

00:45:05.400 Again, just based on their location, based on their size, the pro-choice argument, the pro-abortion

00:45:11.320 argument is cruel.

00:45:12.920 It's illogical.

00:45:13.900 It's incoherent.

00:45:14.920 But mostly it's cruel if you actually accept that you just are for the legal murder of people

00:45:22.840 based on very, very arbitrary reasons.

00:45:25.720 And it leads to some very nasty stuff.

00:45:28.400 It leads to advocacy for eugenics and all kinds of brutality of people, not just inside 0.77

00:45:34.620 the womb, but outside the womb.

00:45:36.280 And speaking of that, interestingly enough, the mifepristone, the drug actually has ties

00:45:41.980 to Nazi gas camps.

00:45:44.580 I saw that Joel Berry tweeted this.

00:45:46.960 He's of the Babylon Bee.

00:45:47.980 He said the company that makes mifepristone is the same company that manufactured the Zyklon

00:45:52.800 Bee gas for the gas chambers in Nazi death camps.

00:45:56.940 And we just wanted to fact check that to make sure that that's true.

00:46:00.860 And it is true. 0.71

00:46:01.980 The German chemical chemical company, IG Farben, manufactured Zyklon Bee, the gas chamber poison,

00:46:08.760 among many other products.

00:46:09.820 And its factories exploited more than 35,000 slave laborers, many from Auschwitz.

00:46:14.720 It even built a concentration camp of its own to improve efficiency.

00:46:19.960 IG Farben turned into, I don't even know how to pronounce this, host, host or hosht,

00:46:26.120 AG upon its name.

00:46:28.120 Oh, it's pronounced Hoyt.

00:46:29.260 Got it in there.

00:46:30.500 Hoyt, AG upon its name change.

00:46:33.600 According to the New York Times, research for the RU486, known as mifepristone, began under

00:46:39.580 the supervision of French researcher, so many things today, Etienne-Emile Valloux, in conjunction

00:46:48.940 with Rasul Uclaf, SA, the French pharmaceutical company for which he was a consultant.

00:46:54.900 Uclaf was a subsidiary of Hoyt, AG.

00:46:58.620 So in summary, IG Farben, manufacturer of Zyklon Bee, changed its name to Hoyt, AG, one of

00:47:04.640 Hoyt, AG subsidiaries.

00:47:06.800 Rasul Uclaf is the French company that developed RU486 for Pristone.

00:47:12.420 So it's true.

00:47:14.260 They are the same company.

00:47:16.420 This is the history of abortion. 0.87

00:47:18.760 This is the history of abortion methods.

00:47:20.820 This is the history of eugenics. 0.97

00:47:22.580 This is the history of Planned Parenthood.

00:47:24.700 It's so funny because you hear the left all the time, the history of this, the roots of

00:47:28.720 that, the origins of that, to try to argue for, I don't know, the immorality of private

00:47:34.380 schools, for example, because some of them, many of them were developed in the 1970s to

00:47:40.280 try to resist or desegregation, integration that was happening at the time.

00:47:48.180 That is not a good argument for me to try to say that private schools are evil today,

00:47:55.000 but that is the argument that they try to use.

00:47:56.760 And yet, when it comes to the things that they want, like abortion, like Planned Parenthood,

00:48:00.520 they are totally unwilling to look at the origins, even though it's not just the origins that

00:48:05.960 are evil.

00:48:06.480 It's the thing today that is evil too.

00:48:10.120 Let's think a little bit harder, Christian. 0.87

00:48:11.980 Let's think a little bit harder.

00:48:13.100 And just to like bring this full circle, this is a matter of life and death.

00:48:17.020 It does not matter if people call you divisive.

00:48:19.940 It does not matter if people call you mean.

00:48:21.900 It does not matter if people say you being pro-life or anti-abortion is the reason why people

00:48:27.600 aren't Christians anymore. 0.98

00:48:28.640 You're anti-woman. 0.99

00:48:29.720 You're bigoted, whatever. 0.65

00:48:31.380 It doesn't matter. 0.82

00:48:32.420 We're literally talking about babies being brutally murdered and poisoned and dismembered,

00:48:37.900 their hearts being stopped at a certain point of pregnancy through a chemical injection that

00:48:44.200 is injected through the woman's abdomen directly into the heart of the wiggling child 0.98

00:48:48.300 to force that child into cardiac arrest.

00:48:50.720 That is the same chemical combination that is used in lethal injections to execute murders.

00:48:56.100 Like that's what we're talking about when we're talking about abortion.

00:48:58.500 It's not ambiguous which side God is on.

00:49:00.780 It's not ambiguous which side Christians should be on.

00:49:03.000 And I'm not just talking about morally.

00:49:04.420 I'm also talking about politically.

00:49:06.140 There is no reason for that to be legal in the United States.

00:49:09.220 There is no reason to not legally protect the right of those innocent and vulnerable and

00:49:14.780 defenseless children to live.

00:49:17.280 Okay.

00:49:17.640 This is not a tough one.

00:49:19.140 It's not a tough one for the Christian.

00:49:20.860 These babies are made in the image of God.

00:49:25.600 Um, and it's pretty clear.

00:49:27.900 It's pretty clear what side we should be on.

00:49:30.080 Should we speak the truth in love?

00:49:31.180 Yes.

00:49:31.400 Should we do everything that we can to provide resources for these moms to make sure that 1.00

00:49:37.320 they see adoption as an option or parenting as an option?

00:49:42.000 Um, yes, we should.

00:49:43.620 And to make sure that they are well provided for and well protected.

00:49:46.400 But guess what?

00:49:46.840 Christians are already doing that. 1.00

00:49:48.100 Anyone says we need to do more work.

00:49:50.140 Why don't you get up off the couch and do more work?

00:49:52.600 I guarantee you there is a pregnancy center within a 60 mile radius of your house that 0.54

00:49:57.160 would take your volunteer hours that are already doing the work that you might be saying needs

00:50:02.180 to be done before you can be truly pro-life will put action to your words and to your

00:50:07.040 complaints.

00:50:07.960 The reality is that Christians have been fighting on behalf of these vulnerable families and babies

00:50:12.600 and moms for decades and decades.

00:50:15.180 So go to your local pregnancy center. 1.00

00:50:17.000 See how you can help, see how you can donate, see, uh, what you can give them to make sure

00:50:21.500 that these moms that are now choosing life and in some cases kind of being forced to choose 1.00

00:50:26.900 life because of these laws, praise God, see what they need.

00:50:30.540 That's what we Christians should be doing.

00:50:32.200 But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be also speaking the truth.

00:50:35.160 Even if you get mean messages about it, it's worth it.

00:50:38.020 It's worth it.

00:50:38.680 Nothing that we endure for being pro-life could be as grotesque, as difficult as what the babies

00:50:46.160 in the womb have to endure who are suffering through abortion.

00:50:49.680 Right?

00:50:50.680 So that's one, that's one perspective.

00:50:52.860 And by the way, like you don't know what babies, what people you are going to meet in

00:50:59.980 heaven who said, Hey, because you talked to my mom, because you donated your time at this

00:51:07.800 pregnancy center, because you shared the gospel here, because my mom saw your post or whatever

00:51:14.180 it was, she decided not to abort me.

00:51:17.100 And here I am in heaven.

00:51:19.640 I became a Christian.

00:51:20.280 You're part of my testimony because my mom chose life because of you.

00:51:23.380 You might not even realize the lives that God chooses to save through you because of

00:51:28.980 your obedience to him.

00:51:30.480 And you won't get to see the constellation of that person's testimony until glory.

00:51:34.800 That is very worth whatever hate we get today.

00:51:47.180 All right.

00:51:51.020 We've got a lot coming up this week.

00:51:52.500 There's so much that I want to talk about.

00:51:54.240 Obviously, I want to talk about what happened to Riley Gaines at the San Francisco school.

00:51:59.420 I think it was San Francisco state last week and just the vicious mob that attacked her

00:52:05.180 and what that means about the state of our country.

00:52:07.460 And we'll also talk a little bit about Bud Light choosing to partner with Dylan Mulvaney.

00:52:12.960 I really tire of talking about this person, but we are going to talk about less about him

00:52:19.580 and more about why corporations are making these choices. 0.83

00:52:23.600 And I love the best person to talk about this with was James Lindsay.

00:52:27.960 You guys know I've had him on my show several times.

00:52:30.920 There's also some disagreements actually that we have that I've seen him articulate on Twitter

00:52:36.460 that I want to hash out with him.

00:52:38.060 And that's that's probably going to be a two part interview, probably just because we always

00:52:42.160 have so much to talk about.

00:52:43.600 And you guys love when I have him on.

00:52:45.580 So he is just going to dissect not just what is happening behind all of these things, but

00:52:51.300 why they're happening.

00:52:52.800 I also wanted to talk about this crazy story.

00:52:55.200 Oregon in Oregon.

00:52:57.000 And this mother, Jessica Bates, was prohibited by the state from adopting because she's a

00:53:02.840 Christian and she wouldn't say that she's going to go along with a child saying that

00:53:06.640 they're the opposite gender. 1.00

00:53:08.380 And so the state was like, sorry, you can't adopt.

00:53:10.620 But now there's this whole lawsuit.

00:53:12.100 And so I want to get into that and and talk about that.

00:53:14.960 There's just so much, as always, to discuss this week.

00:53:18.100 Feel free to shoot me a message and let me know if there's anything in particular other

00:53:21.700 things you want to talk about.

00:53:23.360 Oh, also, yes, we're going to talk about Tennessee three and this Tennessee legislature.

00:53:28.340 What is actually true about that?

00:53:31.000 And also, are these people like exemplars of Christianity, the things that they're going

00:53:36.300 up and saying about what the Bible has to say about gun violence and all of that?

00:53:39.980 We'll get into that as well.

00:53:42.220 Let's see what else was.

00:53:44.260 Oh, and at some point, we're still going to talk about the Florida book banning and so

00:53:48.280 called.

00:53:48.640 And what is actually true about that?

00:53:49.880 We've been like sitting on that story for a while because so many other things have

00:53:53.820 come up.

00:53:54.340 So there's lots of things on the docket.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 10, 2023

Ep 785 ｜ Abortion Pill Ban？ & NPR’s Accidentally Pro-Life Story

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