Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 791 ｜ The U.N.’s Push to Decriminalize Child Rape ｜ Guest： James Lindsay

00:00:00.000 The United Nations is now pushing for the decriminalization of child rape.

00:00:06.820 Also, Washington state is passing a law that takes away the rights of parents who disagree with their child's choice to quote unquote transition.

00:00:15.480 Also, Bud Light, you probably saw, used Dylan Mulvaney as a spokesperson.

00:00:22.140 And there's something really dark and disturbing behind their reasoning to do so.

00:00:27.440 All of these stories are very connected.

00:00:30.660 And to explain that connection to us today is our friend James Lindsay.

00:00:35.560 We've had him on several times before and really no one analyzes what's going on ideologically behind the scenes of these news stories like he does.

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00:00:57.440 So let me explain how this is working.

00:01:05.500 So as always, I had a really long conversation with James.

00:01:10.680 And actually, what I'm going to play you today is the second half of our conversation.

00:01:15.240 So if it kind of seems like we're starting in the middle of our discussion, that's because we are.

00:01:21.560 In this part of the conversation that you are going to hear today, we're talking about these news stories.

00:01:26.160 Now, in the first part of our conversation that I think we're going to play on Monday, which will actually be the part two, we have a discussion and a semi-debate about Christian nationalism.

00:01:36.500 As you probably know, James is an atheist.

00:01:39.400 He used to consider himself a leftist, but he has spoken out against critical theory, educated a lot of people about the dangers of social justice and leftism and queer theory and all of that. 0.67

00:01:53.100 And so we discuss where worldview comes from, how we decide laws, what Christian nationalism would really look like, whether it's a theocracy or whether it's Christians just kind of exercising their faith as they vote and try to influence culture and policy.

00:02:08.380 So that's a fascinating discussion and debate.

00:02:11.860 And we will have that on Monday.

00:02:13.480 Today, we are going to get through as much as we can of these stories.

00:02:16.920 It's a little rushed towards the end because we didn't have enough time.

00:02:20.400 But you are going to be absolutely fascinated by everything that he has to say, as you always are.

00:02:26.160 I certainly was.

00:02:27.500 So without further ado, here is our friend James Lindsay.

00:02:29.800 Speaking of dark and disturbing and also the whole gender thing, I want to talk first about Dylan Mulvaney. 1.00

00:02:42.100 You and I know I'm kind of late on the story.

00:02:44.480 I have been waiting to talk about this whole Bud Light thing until I can have you on because you had such interesting tweets come out of this.

00:02:51.600 And one thing that you said, as soon as you said this, I said it to my producer.

00:02:55.120 I was like, I want to know what he's talking about.

00:02:57.240 You said that there is a reason, a very disturbing.

00:03:00.700 This is not your exact language, but a very disturbing, troubling reason why these corporations like Bud Light are hoisting up Dylan Mulvaney.

00:03:10.080 And for people who don't know, this is a grown man who pretends to be not just a caricature of a woman, but also like a young girl, like probably 12 years old.

00:03:20.180 So pretty frubescent girl. 0.74

00:03:21.200 Yeah.

00:03:21.460 Very disturbing all around, as we've discussed many times on this show.

00:03:25.740 What is the reason in your estimation?

00:03:28.140 What is this dark and disturbing reason?

00:03:31.080 I can't say for certain that I don't know because I don't know what's going on in boardrooms.

00:03:35.820 For absolute certain that Dylan Mulvaney himself is this, but it's probably the case.

00:03:41.800 There is a score called the Corporate Equality Index.

00:03:45.280 It's published by the Human Rights Campaign, which used to be an allegedly gay civil rights advocacy group.

00:03:52.060 It started to receive a lot of money from the Open Society Foundation in the late 2000s.

00:03:56.720 Which is George Soros' organization.

00:03:59.040 That's Soros'.

00:03:59.960 That's right.

00:04:00.840 So it started to receive large, like $25-plus million grants in the late 2000s.

00:04:06.680 And their focus is almost entirely just trans stuff now under the umbrella of LGBTQ+.

00:04:12.820 And they have this scoring index that they've been using since 2002 called the Corporate Equality Index.

00:04:19.320 And you get scored as a corporation.

00:04:21.560 There's also one that's called the Municipal Equality Index that scores like, you know, public utilities and even city councils and things like that.

00:04:29.700 But you have to sign up to be a part of it.

00:04:33.240 Some, I don't know, 1,500 corporations in the United States have signed up for the Human Rights Campaign CEI scoring scheme.

00:04:41.560 And it's scored out of 100 points.

00:04:43.500 And they give you up to 40 points for having, you know, workplace policies that are, you know, non-discriminatory, et cetera, against LGBTQ.

00:04:53.580 Whatever kind of expansive definition of your inclusive workplace that might have.

00:04:58.160 And they have 30 points for something else.

00:04:59.600 And they have 30 points set aside for – and I forget what the something else is.

00:05:04.260 I could go look it up again.

00:05:05.540 But 30 points set aside for what they call social responsibility and visibility.

00:05:10.920 And this is where the Mulvaney situation probably lands is that they are giving up to 30 points for making displays to make trans or queer or even just LGBT, whatever the whole thing, gay or whatever, to make that more visible in society.

00:05:32.460 So that's going to be like ad campaigns and stuff.

00:05:34.060 And this is why you're going to be likely to see somebody like Dylan Mulvaney being a brand ambassador is likely to raise that score.

00:05:39.420 Now, Anheuser-Busch, which is the local parent company of Budweiser, and there's a parent company that's actually headquartered in Belgium that actually owns the whole thing now.

00:05:52.440 It's not even an American company and hasn't been for a while.

00:05:55.500 But Anheuser-Busch has a 100 score.

00:05:58.740 There's also, by the way, that's the carrot side.

00:06:01.280 That's the you go do these things and earn these points.

00:06:03.480 That's the carrot.

00:06:04.380 There's also a stick, by the way, of social responsibility.

00:06:06.740 If you get caught up, you get found out, say, like Chick-fil-A giving money to something that they deem as anti-LGBTQ, they'll take points away no matter what your other stuff is.

00:06:16.840 So there's a carrot and a stick.

00:06:19.380 Well, Anheuser-Busch has had a 100.

00:06:21.060 They're one of the 840 corporations in the United States that will have a perfect CEI, a perfect Corporate Equality Index score.

00:06:27.760 This number matters a lot.

00:06:29.240 You can tell this number matters a lot because they put out press releases.

00:06:32.620 They brag about it.

00:06:33.360 I just saw somebody sent me one this morning, Southwest Airlines is very proud of their 100.

00:06:37.640 By the way, all four major carriers in the United States, so Southwest, United, American, and Delta all have 100s.

00:06:43.940 American is very centered there in Dallas, is very proud of its 100 all the way back to 2002.

00:06:49.140 It got a 100 in the first year and has maintained it every year.

00:06:51.760 I heard from an insider last year that to maintain their 100s, the airlines had to give away free tickets to gay activists to fly to Pride events so that the Pride events could be bigger.

00:07:03.760 And so we're talking millions of dollars of free airline tickets being given away or reduced price airline tickets to fly activists around to Pride events.

00:07:10.580 These are the kinds of tactics that the Human Rights Campaign comes to and says these are the things you have to do in order to raise your score.

00:07:15.860 Now, Anheuser-Busch got in trouble a couple of years ago.

00:07:18.600 I forget what they did, but it made the gay activists mad.

00:07:21.540 And they went to Stonewall and they bought a bunch of Bud Light and they all very visibly poured it out in the street.

00:07:26.240 I think that was 2019.

00:07:27.800 So they're kind of on notice.

00:07:29.480 So, of course, they're probably trying to overcompensate right now.

00:07:32.380 So Dylan Mulvaney becomes a character who is very visible right now.

00:07:37.180 He's being made brand ambassador for like a million things.

00:07:39.560 I would – I don't have absolute proof that he's raising their CEI scores, but that's the exact kind of thing that would raise their CEI scores.

00:07:48.580 So it's probably something they're pursuing.

00:07:50.560 I don't know if the HRC came and said you must elevate Dylan Mulvaney to, you know, more visibility.

00:07:56.960 But it's very, very clear that Mulvaney has become this very useful tool in their kind of operation.

00:08:04.940 Like you said, he's not – this is a peculiar point.

00:08:08.460 He's not claiming to identify as a woman.

00:08:11.860 He's claiming to identify as a girl.

00:08:13.680 100 days or 365 days it was of girlhood, right? 0.99

00:08:17.180 And he very obviously acts like a fool that is prepubescent – his interpretation of a prepubescent – like I don't know if it's 12. 0.98

00:08:25.380 I don't know if it's supposed to be five-year-old girl. 0.99

00:08:27.780 But at the same time, he tries to portray himself as the reincarnation of Audrey Hepburn.

00:08:31.740 So you have this blurring of girlhood and womanhood at the same time as it's actually a 28-year-old gay man who's obviously flamboyant and out of control and loves attention. 0.98

00:08:40.340 So he's got all the incentives in the world to do this because he's getting crazy attention.

00:08:45.580 But there are a lot of operational things.

00:08:48.000 Why would it go into the CEI score, which is going to become a proxy, a measurable proxy for their ESG score?

00:08:54.360 The S part of their ESG is going to be are you doing these kind of social responsibility things?

00:08:59.380 The G score can be determined by do you have these policies?

00:09:02.360 Those are both parts of the corporate equality.

00:09:03.980 So it becomes a measuring stick that the ESG gods at BlackRock or World Economic Forum or whatever can use to score companies.

00:09:13.060 Why would they want to do that?

00:09:14.300 Well, there's a lot of strategic operations.

00:09:16.040 First of all, Budweiser – we all know Budweiser is not very good, but it doesn't matter.

00:09:20.200 It's an iconic American brand.

00:09:22.720 And the goal of cultural Marxism is to destroy culture, to destroy iconic brands.

00:09:28.300 It doesn't matter if they're good or bad.

00:09:30.140 It's something American.

00:09:31.640 Again, there could be zero Americans who actually like to drink Budweiser.

00:09:34.940 But, I mean, I remember I went to a bar.

00:09:37.180 I went to D.C. for an event last year or whatever, and we went across the street to the bar.

00:09:42.160 It's a very famous bar.

00:09:43.280 A lot of people hang out there.

00:09:44.880 It's a union pub.

00:09:46.200 And they actually had an American flag done up on the wall with the red, white, and blue caps of the different Budweiser products, right?

00:09:53.520 Like all the bottle caps.

00:09:56.100 And it was kind of cool.

00:09:57.040 I remember looking at it from everything.

00:09:58.180 Well, that's kind of cool.

00:09:58.860 You know, you get the white caps, the blue caps, the red caps.

00:10:00.760 And so it's this very American identity.

00:10:03.180 Not anymore.

00:10:04.640 Not anymore.

00:10:05.300 Now it's weird for Americans, conservative Americans who see themselves as Americans and our value being American.

00:10:10.460 Now something that used to be, you know, an iconic American thing is no longer American.

00:10:16.340 It's poisoned.

00:10:17.080 So you have what the Germans called, the cultural Marxists called Aufheben der Kultur, the abolishment of culture.

00:10:23.040 But you also have Dylan Mulvaney saying like, hey, look, I'm an influencer.

00:10:27.180 All you have to do is change your face.

00:10:28.760 You can get facial surgery on his TikTok.

00:10:30.400 Tell him little kids.

00:10:31.380 You can get facial surgery and you can be an influencer.

00:10:33.340 Like, man, we know that we're in this weird situation where because of TikTok and so on, that like something like 40% of American kids say that the job they want when they grow up is influencer.

00:10:41.220 So you see that they know they're reaching to the young people and trying to say that thing you want to be, guess what?

00:10:47.080 There's a backdoor.

00:10:48.680 Transition.

00:10:49.480 We can elevate you.

00:10:50.520 We can make you huge.

00:10:51.360 Look, Dylan Mulvaney.

00:10:52.220 It's just one thing after another, after another, after another.

00:10:54.680 And then there's another operation.

00:10:56.720 You'll notice not many people are happy about Dylan Mulvaney.

00:11:00.220 It's true.

00:11:01.060 I mean, I don't see even Democrat people celebrating Dylan Mulvaney.

00:11:04.760 I see almost nobody using the female pronouns for Dylan.

00:11:07.720 Like, it just isn't.

00:11:09.000 And nobody likes it.

00:11:09.900 So they're just ramming it on us.

00:11:12.260 They're forcing us.

00:11:13.360 They're demoralizing us.

00:11:14.360 They're saying, we don't care how much you don't like it.

00:11:16.480 Oh, yeah.

00:11:16.780 We'll lose $6 billion.

00:11:17.980 We don't care.

00:11:18.920 We're just going to keep forcing it on you.

00:11:20.540 And you can't do this is the magic line.

00:11:23.260 You can't do anything about it.

00:11:24.760 Yeah.

00:11:25.860 And the reason I think that it's actually why are the corporations playing along?

00:11:29.740 Because the corporations are this kind of epicenter of power is because they are beholden to that score.

00:11:35.760 I think that that CEI score has maybe it's not merely Dylan Mulvaney. 1.00

00:11:40.140 I think that maybe it is true that just they hired this woke, you know, marketing manager who made the worst decision in brand history because she's woke and stupid. 0.88

00:11:51.700 But it's certainly the case that the CEI score, this corporate equality score, something that corporations chase, that they're willing to lose large amounts of money for, that they're willing to do very strange things like get free airline tickets away in order to maintain. 0.97

00:12:04.760 That they put out press releases that they celebrate. 0.92

00:12:07.020 I mean, Southwest has the stupidest image I ever saw of how proud they are of their – it's like all these, like, very, very diverse group of, I guess, gay people of every color doing, like, little hearts with their hands. 1.00

00:12:17.720 And they're all proud of their – we have a 100 CEI. 0.98

00:12:20.920 And that's, again, the same thing, though.

00:12:23.240 Because which airline are you going to boycott America?

00:12:25.580 Oh, all of them do it.

00:12:27.840 So enjoy –

00:12:28.760 I think the only one that doesn't is Spirit because they clearly don't care about anybody or anything if you've ever flown on them.

00:12:33.260 So who are you going to fly, you know?

00:12:37.860 Right.

00:12:38.960 Sorry.

00:12:39.480 You're just going to – no matter where you turn, you're going to support these issues or whatever.

00:12:43.640 Now, I agree.

00:12:44.400 Matt Walsh, you know, says we're going to make an example of a brand and try to punish them.

00:12:48.660 Maybe we can with Bud Light.

00:12:50.200 But at the same time, we have this multinational corporation now.

00:12:53.780 It owns, you know, Leffa is a Belgian beer.

00:12:56.740 Hogarton's a Belgian beer that's in their orbit.

00:13:00.220 Stella Artois, a huge Belgian beer.

00:13:02.460 It's all – the same company owns those.

00:13:04.720 And a lot of people don't even realize.

00:13:05.620 A lot of people don't even realize that they're in the same umbrella.

00:13:08.860 Right. 0.98

00:13:09.240 So we're going to boycott and kill the American part of this multinational. 0.99

00:13:12.380 Yeah. 0.91

00:13:12.500 And basically take the American part off the table. 0.92

00:13:14.360 I think a lot of people don't understand what you're talking about.

00:13:29.160 We've talked about ESG and the Great Reset and things like this on this podcast.

00:13:33.560 And obviously you talk about it a lot.

00:13:35.720 A lot of people, whenever you see Nike, for example, or Bud Light using someone like Dylan Mulvaney, who – I mean, he does have a lot of followers.

00:13:44.180 He does have a lot of people who are praising him.

00:13:46.760 But you're right.

00:13:47.460 Like, kind of in the mainstream, it's hard to find a lot of people who are super sympathetic towards him because it is embarrassing.

00:13:55.240 He portrays himself as this, like, floocy bimbo of a 12-year-old girl. 0.56

00:14:00.360 And I think even left-wing women are like, meh, I don't know if I want to be – if I really want to be made into that kind of caricature. 1.00

00:14:08.920 I don't know if I necessarily want to include this person in womanhood.

00:14:11.720 And so I think you're right about that.

00:14:12.980 So you have a lot of people asking the question, well, why would Nike do that?

00:14:16.440 Don't they know their audience?

00:14:18.200 Don't they understand that only women buy those sports bras? 1.00

00:14:21.200 And, you know, I said something like this, too, obviously joking and knowing the reality behind it, knowing why they don't care whether or not I will buy their products.

00:14:29.560 But, I mean, they are – when they put their clothing on someone like Dylan Mulvaney, there is no opportunity for a woman to see that model and to see, oh, okay, I can see what that looks like on me.

00:14:41.300 You can't because he has a man's body.

00:14:43.760 He doesn't have any hips.

00:14:45.060 He has large shoulders.

00:14:46.320 He's tight.

00:14:46.880 Like, and that's obviously not the point.

00:14:49.400 Nike knows that.

00:14:50.480 Nike knows that this is not a female body, that I can't relate to it in any way.

00:14:54.780 Bud Light knows that the people that buy their beer cans are more like Kid Rock than they are like Dylan Mulvaney.

00:15:01.580 They know that.

00:15:02.880 It's not – and I don't think – and you touched on this.

00:15:05.760 It's not only because of their CEI scores.

00:15:08.080 I think it's also – it's the same reason why a particular show at Fox News decided to run that egregious segment about the child whose parents transitioned her into a boy.

00:15:20.980 It's not that they don't know that their audience is conservative.

00:15:24.100 It's not that they don't understand that they're talking to people in the heartland who want nothing to do with at least child transition.

00:15:30.640 It's actually because these people hate their audience.

00:15:35.460 These people hate that part of their customer base and they actually want to change them and they think that they can.

00:15:42.720 So, yes, the CEI scores and things like that caring more about that than profits.

00:15:47.340 But I also think it is antagonism towards that audience.

00:15:51.320 So, it's either it's like, you know what, if you don't support this, I don't even want your money.

00:15:55.120 I don't care what you do.

00:15:56.460 But also, maybe we can, as you said, like force you to comply with it and change you.

00:16:03.900 It's not the same age that we used to live in where we can kind of scare these major corporations by saying, well, I'm not going to use your product.

00:16:12.060 Because the response that they often give is, good, I don't care.

00:16:16.500 I mean, that's what the VP of marketing, who apparently came up with this whole campaign, she kind of doubled down on it and was like, you know, we're moving away from this frat star brand.

00:16:30.420 We don't want to be seen as just this, you know, frat bro thing.

00:16:36.300 She said, if we do not attract young drinkers to come and drink this brand, there will be no more future for Bud Light.

00:16:41.620 So, I had this super clear mandate.

00:16:43.900 We need to evolve and elevate this incredibly iconic brand.

00:16:47.500 What does evolve and elevate mean?

00:16:50.140 I mean, she says it right here.

00:16:51.160 It means inclusivity.

00:16:53.220 Representation is at the heart of its evolution.

00:16:55.440 And I would say not just evolution, but revolution.

00:16:58.240 Now, I don't even think that this is she's telling the whole truth here because I don't think that she really thinks that this is going to attract a lot of young people.

00:17:08.520 And then you have the CEO, though, kind of not apologizing, but an answer that didn't make the right or the left happy, kind of saying.

00:17:18.560 Yeah, I made nobody happy.

00:17:19.780 Yeah.

00:17:20.220 Just I mean, because he kind of looks like your average conservative American.

00:17:24.860 You know, he basically was like, you know, representation matters, but we're not trying to divide people.

00:17:30.760 We're not trying to enter a political discussion, kind of apologizing, but not apologizing.

00:17:36.140 So, I don't know.

00:17:36.780 Obviously, the boycott got like a response.

00:17:40.060 I don't know if that's good enough.

00:17:41.400 I don't know if it really makes a dent.

00:17:43.020 But it's interesting, the kind of two different kinds of responses that we got from the C-suite there.

00:17:51.540 Well, what you're actually what we're dealing with and, you know, you invoke the World Economic Forum here.

00:17:56.800 Klaus Schwab says this all the time.

00:17:58.920 It's in his last couple of books explicitly.

00:18:03.060 I mean, I could tell you exactly what he says. 0.87

00:18:05.260 He just recently actually had an interview where he said the most ridiculous thing.

00:18:08.880 But what he's saying is, and I'll tell you what he said in just a second, but what he's actually saying is that in what they're doing is that they are trying to impose new values on our society.

00:18:19.100 And what they have decided is that the young people are the target for those new values.

00:18:23.400 Those values are going to be inclusivity and sustainability.

00:18:25.740 I've been banging this drum for about two years now.

00:18:28.100 I remember being in my driveway and having the epiphany.

00:18:30.640 I'm like, oh, my God, it's sustainability and inclusivity are the two new values of the future. 0.67

00:18:34.220 And then as soon as you realize that, it's like you read the writing and it's in every page and you feel stupid that you couldn't figure it out before.

00:18:41.820 But this is the idea.

00:18:42.980 They think that the future, that the children are brainwashed.

00:18:45.340 This is what Klaus Schwab says in the book, The Great Narrative for a Better Future, which he published last year.

00:18:50.800 He says that they're going to use the ESG and the public-private partnership model to get the governments and the corporations on board with the new value system.

00:19:00.620 But if they won't all go along with it, he says, that's one paragraph.

00:19:03.380 The next paragraph, he says, if they won't go along with it, that doesn't matter.

00:19:06.700 We're going to transform the youth to demand only products, services, workplaces, et cetera, that are on board with the new sustainable and inclusive value system.

00:19:18.180 And then he says, third, we're going to use that opportunity to rewrite the social contract to be a sustainable and inclusive future.

00:19:25.980 And then this is what he said in the interview just the other day.

00:19:28.800 He said that we are rewriting the social contract.

00:19:31.640 So part of the purpose of this Dylan Mulvaney thing from the marketing VP that we're hearing from is to force new values, believing that the young people already accept these values and that those are the only values that they're ever going to accept in their lives.

00:19:46.640 And we're going to force them.

00:19:47.420 We're going to rewrite the social contract.

00:19:48.680 Because what Klaus said is we're rewriting the social contract.

00:19:51.440 And you'll hear kind of why do they not care if they lose $6 billion or whatever?

00:19:55.220 We're rewriting the social contract.

00:19:57.180 He said, away from an economy of production and consumption and into an economy of sharing and caring.

00:20:03.800 That's a direct quote.

00:20:05.580 I don't know what an economy of sharing and caring actually looks like, but I know that that's just updated communism.

00:20:12.660 They're going to tell you who you're going to share with, when you're going to share, and how you're going to share for equity.

00:20:17.640 And they're going to tell you what you're going to care about for sustainability and inclusion.

00:20:21.360 And that's what the economy of caring and sharing is going to be based off of.

00:20:26.020 But we're not going to focus on production and consumption.

00:20:28.820 So production and consumption of, say, a brand like Bud Light isn't that important anymore.

00:20:32.720 It's about pushing these new values on the society under the assumption that the young people have already adopted these values and are incontrovertible in these values.

00:20:41.600 Which I think they're in for a rude awakening because I'm looking at the Gen Z. 1.00

00:20:45.680 And some of them are very into this stuff.

00:20:47.740 But, man, a lot of them are mad at it.

00:20:49.680 A lot of them are sick of it.

00:20:50.660 I saw this announcement from a group in Canada, which is totally cooked. 0.99

00:20:54.520 You know, Canada is completely gone, woke.

00:20:56.760 And this was a statement.

00:20:58.400 There was an incident.

00:20:59.540 It went viral.

00:21:00.420 I can't remember the exact details.

00:21:01.680 But a young, I think it's a high school student, ties a trans flag around his neck.

00:21:04.940 They always make themselves into superheroes, right?

00:21:07.420 And all the other kids take it away from him.

00:21:09.720 And they're, like, putting it on the ground and, like, stepping on it and all this.

00:21:11.920 And they're, like, no, we're not doing this anymore.

00:21:13.560 And they put out a statement on Twitter.

00:21:15.080 You've tried to indoctrinate us.

00:21:16.440 We're done.

00:21:17.140 You tried to, you know, steal our childhood.

00:21:19.240 We're done.

00:21:19.800 And I don't know that they are aware that they've tried to force false values on people.

00:21:26.580 And whether we want to take a biblical perspective and say the truth is written on their hearts is fine.

00:21:30.640 They know this is fake.

00:21:31.980 A lot of them and a growing number of them know that this is fake.

00:21:35.620 And so I don't think that they're going to be able to just force new values.

00:21:38.240 This has always been the communist project.

00:21:39.900 It's the same Gnostic thing. 0.80

00:21:41.000 We're going to be born as new Soviet men. 0.89

00:21:42.580 We're going to be born as new people.

00:21:43.800 We're going to, as Herbert Marcuse put it in the 60s, interject new values by forcing people to live under the new values.

00:21:50.200 This is what the Soviets did. 0.97

00:21:51.920 They created a tyrannical regime to force people to live under communist values.

00:21:55.800 And if you didn't like it, they sent you to labor camp to reeducate, to learn communist values.

00:21:59.480 It's what Mao did.

00:22:00.460 He created a cultural revolution.

00:22:02.480 And if it didn't work, you didn't take up the values yourself.

00:22:04.620 He sent you to the labor camp for reeducation.

00:22:06.440 Or maybe even if it did, it sent you to the labor camp for reeducation.

00:22:09.540 Sent you out to work in primitive conditions and in the peasantry, in the fields and in horrible, horrible circumstances for three, four years to reeducate you.

00:22:18.200 The goal was to make you into that which you're not.

00:22:22.820 And we see this exact same mentality with Dylan Mulvaney.

00:22:26.540 We're going to force this new value.

00:22:28.080 We're going to include him.

00:22:29.280 We're going to celebrate him.

00:22:31.040 We're going to affirm him.

00:22:32.720 And then, by the way, kids, look at his TikTok.

00:22:36.100 If you have facial surgery, you can become an influencer like me.

00:22:38.780 Yay! 1.00

00:22:39.340 Let's dance around like a fool. 0.99

00:22:41.080 Now, Nike, by the way, since you brought Nike, is a little bit of a different story. 0.99

00:22:44.880 It's a more complicated story.

00:22:46.080 Because, unlike Bud Light, the market for Nike, like you can go try to boycott Nike all you want.

00:22:53.240 Because their overwhelming market is in China now.

00:22:56.240 They are serving the Chinese market.

00:22:57.680 They are not serving the American market.

00:22:58.960 Yeah, totally.

00:22:59.500 And the CCP is going to be perfectly happy with them doing a destruction of American happiness.

00:23:04.480 Yeah.

00:23:05.140 Even though the CCP does not align with those values.

00:23:08.180 Oh, yeah.

00:23:08.380 But they understand.

00:23:09.060 No, they won't.

00:23:09.840 And they censor them, too.

00:23:11.820 You aren't allowed to have any LGBTQ messages on social media or media.

00:23:16.120 So, they're not really worried about how Dylan Mulvaney is going to brainwash their youth because they do not allow their youth to have access to that.

00:23:23.600 You're not allowed to transition.

00:23:26.600 I think I read about this recently until you're 21.

00:23:29.860 But even then, even then, they have this basically structure in place where they intimidate the family to the degree that if the family doesn't shame that person out of homosexuality or transgenderism, basically there's trouble. 0.92

00:23:43.220 So, it's basically banned entirely.

00:23:45.620 So, that's an interesting point.

00:23:46.660 They're serving China, not really interested in conforming China to our, you know, queer family values. 0.98

00:23:54.440 Yeah, China won't take their messaging.

00:23:55.880 Yeah.

00:23:56.220 They won't see Dylan Mulvaney.

00:23:57.620 But China loves it for us.

00:23:59.060 But Nike will get favorable deals.

00:23:59.720 Yes.

00:24:00.140 Exactly.

00:24:00.640 So, they do it in America and China will give them favorable business deals throughout China.

00:24:05.460 And that's the real market that they're after because the Chinese market is, you know, close to a billion and a half people.

00:24:12.260 Best case scenario in the United States, you have 300 million.

00:24:16.800 It's not even comparable.

00:24:18.840 And, you know, there's a lot of, I mean, there's a lot of poverty still in China, but there's a lot of money in China, too.

00:24:23.720 And they are, our corporations around the world or around the country are obviously bending over backwards to serve China. 0.93

00:24:30.220 So, we might be able to damage Bud Light and make a point or Anheuser-Busch and make a point with, and I think maybe we are.

00:24:36.360 I don't know.

00:24:36.880 I'm actually kind of in favor of this idea.

00:24:38.500 I don't think it's going to be the solution, but I think it actually is sending a powerful message to the ESG powers that be that people are pissed off about it.

00:24:48.020 But Nike is another story.

00:24:49.140 You're not going to hurt Nike.

00:24:50.620 I don't mean to be discouraging and disempowering, but they are serving another master, which is something that Americans need to start thinking about very, very seriously.

00:24:58.960 Which of our corporations are serving China?

00:25:01.180 Which of our governors are serving China instead of serving the United States?

00:25:04.360 That doesn't mean that you as an individual can't boycott Nike.

00:25:08.040 Like, for example, I won't buy Nike products.

00:25:11.020 That's not because I think that they're going to be like, how can we win Ali Stuckey's business back?

00:25:15.280 But just that's, you know, just a personal choice.

00:25:17.580 So, on an individual level, some people want to integrate their lives into their values.

00:25:22.960 So, that's fine.

00:25:24.320 But I totally agree with you.

00:25:25.520 Listen, listen, James, we've only got 20 minutes left, and I've got to talk about two big subjects.

00:25:42.680 So, first, since we're talking on a global level, I want to talk about, because I haven't touched on this yet, the UN advocating for decriminalizing child rape.

00:25:53.260 And I know that you're going to have a fascinating analysis of this, because this is not, as you know, probably better than anyone, happening in a vacuum.

00:26:00.600 So, the International Committee of Juris and the United Nations have issued a new report calling for all forms of drug use and sexual activity to be decriminalized globally.

00:26:12.260 And this includes sex between adults and minors.

00:26:17.280 That should be decriminalized, the UN is saying, so long as the minors, quote, unquote, consent. 0.74

00:26:24.200 They say that this kind of sexual interaction between a minor doesn't actually specify, from what I saw, the age of the minor.

00:26:31.020 Even if it is not legal in a particular country, it still can, the UN says, in fact, be consensual and therefore should be decriminalized.

00:26:42.240 They say using the law to punish this kind of behavior and drug use should be the absolute last resort.

00:26:49.360 There should be all these other strategies put into place.

00:26:51.460 But they don't even say that, yes, this is something that should be prevented or it should be stigmatized or it should be something that we should try to shame people out of or prevent in other ways.

00:27:01.580 It just says it should be decriminalized and it could be something that a child chooses to do with an adult.

00:27:10.000 So, you know, slippery slope fallacy, we keep hearing from the Christian right. 0.94

00:27:15.680 Christians have been slippery sloping for the past several years, saying that the sexual revolution is finally and fully going to manifest itself in the not just condoning of, but as all things go with progressivism, the celebration of pedophilia. 0.99

00:27:33.700 And it will be all done under this.

00:27:36.420 What I've said for a long time is very flimsy consent based morality.

00:27:41.140 As long as you consent to something and the definition of consent is always changing, it's always moving, then it is moral.

00:27:51.440 So tell me, like, does this surprise you at all that the United Nations pretending to be a safeguard of, you know, children and morality and all of that, basically our world beacon of morality.

00:28:02.660 Does it surprise you that they are now saying, oh, pedophiles? 0.97

00:28:05.880 No, not just pedophiles, but child sex abusers. 0.99

00:28:08.300 They shouldn't go to jail. 1.00

00:28:10.640 No, it doesn't surprise me.

00:28:11.940 I don't know how much more evidence Americans need that the top priority, a top policy priority for anybody who has the whether it's in Congress, whether it's a president that has the will to do so is to remove the United States from the United Nations and pull all of our funding.

00:28:26.800 I don't know how much more evidence we need of this.

00:28:29.060 That should be a top priority.

00:28:31.000 The United Nations is a catastrophe.

00:28:33.920 I think it's somebody corrected me recently.

00:28:36.300 So I'll say I think it's the fifth international communist party.

00:28:40.060 It's its instantiation.

00:28:41.680 And I think its goal is to actually destroy the West.

00:28:44.080 This is part and parcel with what the left has been pushing for for decades.

00:28:48.060 And I think, honestly, this is a controversial statement.

00:28:50.480 But I actually think in the same way that they accuse America of being structurally racist, that the left is actually structurally pedophilic.

00:28:57.520 This idea that consent is up to the minor, that you could have the idea, this concept that what you have in your head probably will use American law because it varies from country to country.

00:29:12.320 Some countries' age of consent is 18, like in the United States.

00:29:14.860 Some countries it's 19.

00:29:16.500 Some countries it's 15.

00:29:18.500 I think in one or two countries it's 13, which is freaking horrifying.

00:29:22.740 But whatever.

00:29:24.340 We'll pause and just use the American context.

00:29:27.220 You think it may be, OK, so you have a 16-year-old who's being kind of initiated by an adult into like adulthood-ish sexual themes and topics.

00:29:34.680 Can a 16-year-old consent and it's kind of blurry?

00:29:37.640 The answer, of course, legally is no.

00:29:39.460 We draw the line somewhere that it's not actually blurry.

00:29:42.820 It doesn't matter that – well, it's 16 in this country and 18 in this country so that it's arbitrary.

00:29:47.840 We've drawn the line and we've decided that this is where the line is.

00:29:51.600 And we don't – there should be no negotiation about that.

00:29:54.720 We have to pick some kind of a standard and go with it.

00:29:57.260 If you want to negotiate and say, well, 18 is too old.

00:30:00.060 Let's try to change the law to 17, then OK, fine. 0.93

00:30:03.220 So maybe you changed the law to 17, but now that's a new standard and it's just as absolute and we don't talk about it.

00:30:07.940 This is all tangential.

00:30:09.480 The point is that they've been trying to get rid of this idea of age of consent that somebody under this line is not legally or even maybe psychologically capable of giving legal consent.

00:30:20.540 They've been trying to get rid of that idea for a long time.

00:30:22.860 The postmodernists, Foucault, Derrida, you name it, all of them, Sartre, they all – he wasn't technically a postmodernist, but he's an existentialist Marxist.

00:30:30.940 They were all signing this petition in the 70s, a very famous petition.

00:30:36.180 They were signing this to get rid of the age of consent laws in France entirely, which were 15 at the time, to get rid of them entirely.

00:30:42.580 This has always been a goal and you hear this argument.

00:30:45.260 Every now and then we'll see kind of anti-woke leftists usually get absolutely blown up or even a conservative, Milo Yiannopoulos got this, get absolutely blown up because they come out and try to make the argument that teenagers under certain circumstances can consent.

00:31:01.860 But then what we see here is not just that.

00:31:04.080 It's the same leftist agenda that no, no, no.

00:31:06.800 We're going to talk about the rights of the child and the child is a person, so the person should have absolute human rights and human rights becomes kind of this word that means that you can't question their awful program.

00:31:20.560 And so anybody, if they claim that they like it, can consent.

00:31:24.780 Well, if you know anything about child grooming, and I've actually talked with some survivors of being groomed as a child, like five years old, six years old, the child virtually always consents because they get kind of like.

00:31:39.460 That's quote unquote for people who are listening.

00:31:41.180 Yeah, they get with quotes around it because the child is brought in, the groomer, the pedophile is like, oh, don't you want to be, you know, this or that?

00:31:50.500 And they get them kind of like very comfortable and they're violating their boundaries one by one.

00:31:54.100 Why don't you lay on me?

00:31:55.100 Why don't you spend time with me?

00:31:56.580 Why don't we cuddle a little bit while we watch a movie?

00:31:59.220 Don't, doesn't it feel good when we touch?

00:32:01.120 Do you want to touch with me?

00:32:01.940 Don't you want to make me feel good?

00:32:02.960 It's this whole thing.

00:32:03.880 And the child from the literal from the survivors that I've talked to gets this psychological impression that they want to please this adult.

00:32:11.840 Yeah.

00:32:12.340 And so they think they are consenting to what's going on when they're actually being grotesquely violated.

00:32:17.760 And that means that that standard cannot possibly that the one that the United Nations is putting out cannot possibly be used.

00:32:24.600 This is absolute, absolutely abhorrent that they would try to put such a standard out.

00:32:29.760 But again, this has been a project of the left openly signing big petitions, doing big drives.

00:32:37.200 If you read the literature and queer theory, it's throughout the literature and queer theory.

00:32:40.820 The first paper, I think we've talked about this before, Thinking Sex by Gail Rubin, 1984, explicitly says that it's an unfair demonization of what she calls cross-generational sexual relationships.

00:32:56.000 And that that has to be done away with because, you know, that criminalizes something that, you know, love is love or some horrific statement.

00:33:10.820 This has been a goal.

00:33:18.600 So when I say that in the same way that they accuse our society of being structurally racist, that they are actually legitimately structurally pedophilic.

00:33:24.860 I wish I would have worn one of my OK Groomer t-shirts for the show.

00:33:28.320 This is so OK Groomerville.

00:33:29.600 Groomerville, this is opening the door.

00:33:32.280 I mean, besides the drug use stuff, which is its own topic, this is opening the door to rampant, decriminalized, thus de facto legal grooming where you're going to be able to convince a young person.

00:33:45.240 Maybe it's a 14-year-old girl who's decided she's rebelling against her family or whatever, or a 14-year-old boy who's, you know, been groomed by somebody that maybe is a young gay man.

00:33:55.400 And it's like, oh, well, or a young gay boy, I guess. 0.95

00:33:57.400 And we're going to teach you, you know, what it means to be a gay, you know, or something like this. 0.69

00:34:02.200 A kind of gay grooming that conservatives have been very afraid of would be part and parcel with gay civil rights for a long time.

00:34:09.160 I don't think that most gay people are interested in doing this, but we know that some are. 1.00

00:34:12.620 Milo Yiannopoulos openly talked about it and got blown up because he said that he'd think that it's a good idea a number of years ago.

00:34:19.460 Or he at least said.

00:34:21.000 That it was meaningful and valuable or something like that.

00:34:23.080 Oh, I thought he said that it happened to him.

00:34:24.440 I honestly don't remember.

00:34:25.960 I'm not defending Milo.

00:34:26.660 I think he was positive about it, but I don't want to make, I don't want to put words in his mouth.

00:34:31.280 So that's not fair.

00:34:32.300 I don't know.

00:34:32.760 Let's be careful.

00:34:33.480 Anyway.

00:34:34.080 We can go look it up.

00:34:34.720 Yes.

00:34:35.080 And I, yeah, go ahead.

00:34:36.820 This is, but yeah, this is, this is the structural pedophilic move.

00:34:41.000 And I think there are deep, nasty reasons for it that we don't have to get into.

00:34:43.900 It's very simple.

00:34:44.760 There are predator type people who believe that they should have access to do whatever they want.

00:34:51.860 Again, it's kind of their own God.

00:34:53.520 But when we talk about that slippery slope, and this is kind of the thing that I want to say, and I think you'll think is interesting.

00:34:58.800 Social constructionism, which is what the left operates on.

00:35:02.340 Everything's a social construct is always a slippery slope.

00:35:06.040 There's no limit.

00:35:08.580 There's no limiting principle in a social construction world.

00:35:11.800 If gender is a social construct, for example, there is absolutely no place where you can say, well, sex is not.

00:35:19.680 Because it's only a political decision that you're making to decide that biology reflects upon that.

00:35:26.500 So you're going to end up, if you start with gender as a social construct, feminism, you're going to end up in the trans thing, destroying your feminism. 0.99

00:35:32.660 If you start to say that, you know, everything to do with sexuality is socially constructed, it's only a matter of time until you're going to say that age is a social construct.

00:35:40.820 And we have to start talking about the so-called rights of the child.

00:35:43.320 And if the child consents.

00:35:44.520 So the slippery slope is real everywhere you start to believe that things are actually socially constructed instead of rooted in reality.

00:35:54.080 And this is where we have to start pulling things back.

00:35:58.100 This is what, you know, and a lot of people know that.

00:36:00.280 I mean, I don't dislike Matt.

00:36:01.420 I'm not a huge fan of Matt Walsh.

00:36:02.880 But this is where he was so good and so powerful and so effective where he gave that speech recently at the university for YAF.

00:36:10.240 But I don't remember which university.

00:36:11.280 And he said, I'm here to tell you the truth that other people won't tell you.

00:36:15.440 I'm going to pull you back to reality.

00:36:17.240 You will never become a woman or a man, whichever one you're transitioning to. 0.97

00:36:22.000 Your transition will never complete.

00:36:24.020 And the fact of the matter is a child can never consent.

00:36:28.020 This is reality.

00:36:29.120 They are too impressionable, too vulnerable, too innocent.

00:36:33.360 They cannot give meaningful consent.

00:36:36.380 Their brains actually have not developed far enough.

00:36:38.860 And no amount of queer theory changes that. 0.91

00:36:40.660 But it may be the case that what we decide as a society is the line, the age of consent line, is somewhat arbitrary in that we could have a public debate and decide, well, maybe 18 is too young.

00:36:54.020 Maybe it's 21 now.

00:36:55.260 Maybe 18 is too old.

00:36:56.760 Maybe it's 16 now.

00:36:58.140 Different societies have decided different things.

00:36:59.760 But when you draw that line, that line is representative of an agreement that we're going to say we recognize that before at least some level of psychological development, that you are not meaningfully able to consent to adult activity like sexual activity.

00:37:16.420 And that's not ambiguous.

00:37:18.580 Yeah.

00:37:18.860 And it's damaging to children.

00:37:20.640 And unfortunately, the left doesn't understand boundaries.

00:37:24.240 And that's why they're so – they don't like reality.

00:37:27.960 They feel – it's gnostic. 0.84

00:37:29.200 They feel imprisoned by reality.

00:37:31.480 Reality is such that children can't consent and our society reifies that in socially constructed law so that I can't go chase after my dreams or whatever.

00:37:40.400 This is the fundamental problem on the left.

00:37:44.680 And so, of course, they go after it.

00:37:46.000 The United Nations, all in my opinion it's done is kind of taken the mask off and showed us that all of these warnings that people have been issuing, which I can back up with lots of theory and history or whatever, were completely accurate.

00:38:00.280 That the socially constructivist left has no limiting principles and eventually all of the perversions that they brag about wanting to participate in in the queer theory literature will get put on the table. 0.82

00:38:15.180 They'll get put institutionally on the table and that you're going to have an organization like the United Nations doing this.

00:38:19.500 In my opinion, the most important takeaway is it's time for the United States to step away from the United Nations and pull all of our funding from it and to no longer participate in, in fact, ideally to condemn this organization as a disaster.

00:38:44.680 And, you know, I want to rehash all of that.

00:38:47.840 I wish I could talk we could talk more about just the roots of queer theory and how there's a reason why we coincidentally keep seeing these trans activists also caught up in these like grooming schemes and things like that.

00:39:01.580 And as you just talked about, it's not happening in a vacuum.

00:39:03.880 But rather than just rehash it, since we don't have time, go back and everyone should go back and listen to the conversation that you and I had maybe last summer where we talked about all that.

00:39:12.160 That episode was insanely popular because most people just don't know that it's not just a coincidence that these things are happening.

00:39:19.020 It comes from an actual ideology.

00:39:20.940 And you did mention it being the UN being anti-Western.

00:39:23.880 And I do just want to point out this idea of age of consent is absent in much of the non-Western world today.

00:39:32.580 Not every religion believes that taking a child bride is perverted or pedophilic in any way.

00:39:40.180 There are religions that condone that kind of thing.

00:39:43.240 Like I would argue because of the biblical mandate to be fruitful and multiply this biblical idea that marriage, the point of marriage is actually procreation.

00:39:53.300 There's plenty of people who disagree with that, but I would say biblically that's true, that even though there's no exact so-called age of consent in the Bible because sex is tied to procreation, there is at least a standard that the person, the people getting married cannot be children.

00:40:11.780 It's not, you don't take a child bride if the purpose of marriage is procreation and not just based, you know, perverted pedophilic pleasure.

00:40:20.840 So I do think that like biblical morality in Western civilization has played a part in the rightful stigmatization of something like pedophilia.

00:40:30.800 Okay, before, I know you have something to say, but you can't respond to it because we don't have time.

00:40:34.340 No, actually I don't.

00:40:35.200 I just agree.

00:40:35.980 We have like, we have like two seconds to talk about this huge story.

00:40:39.060 I'll have to talk about it more later because we don't have time to get into it.

00:40:42.140 But this goes actually hand in hand with what we're talking about.

00:40:44.380 I'm sure you saw the law that is being passed in Washington state that now allows the state to legally hide runaway children from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child's so-called gender transition or abortion.

00:40:58.460 This is SB 5599, supporting youth and young adults seeking protected health care services.

00:41:05.560 This is going to be signed into law by Governor Jay Inslee.

00:41:08.440 Okay, so the pointed question that I have for you and try to answer it in like two minutes if you can, I know, is how does this law, how does this law to connect to the ideology that you're talking about?

00:41:25.120 The queer theory idea that children actually need to be liberated from their parents as oppressors and sexually liberated, gender liberated. 0.68

00:41:35.860 Is this a part of that?

00:41:38.380 Yeah, it's exactly the same.

00:41:39.480 And by the way, there are already laws for this in California and Vermont that are horrific as well.

00:41:43.900 So it's not just Washington.

00:41:45.300 Washington is just the newest.

00:41:46.940 And so what you're seeing is that march through the country that starts in the blue states and eventually makes its way to other states.

00:41:54.120 The goal with this is very, very clear.

00:41:56.680 They're going to put parents on notice that affirmation of trans and sexuality issues in children is going to be what you have to do.

00:42:04.920 They're going to threaten to be able to take away your kids or for you to lose your kids if you don't go along with it.

00:42:09.640 So they are forcing.

00:42:11.460 It's not power at the end of the barrel of a gun, but it kind of is because CPS is going to get involved.

00:42:15.800 And if you try to resist, this is an absolute imposition.

00:42:18.940 This is a direct intentional strike at the idea of parental authority and parental autonomy with their children.

00:42:26.300 And the state is saying absolutely that here's this ideology, queer theory. 0.93

00:42:31.460 We endorse this and not only are you expected socially to affirm it, you are going to participate in the, I'll say, grooming or the ideological brainwashing of your own children or else we're going to step in and take them away.

00:42:47.140 And so this is this.

00:42:48.700 I think the queer theory, honestly, is a religion. 0.99

00:42:51.140 And I've already said why it's agnostic and hermetic.

00:42:54.380 I think that this is the state imposing a new state religion on parents.

00:42:59.500 But this is what you see in the education literature, by the way, with social emotional learning.

00:43:03.580 It's not going to be enough that there's going to be a social emotional learning time at school.

00:43:07.060 Every subject is going to be social emotional learning.

00:43:09.060 Everything that happens at the school.

00:43:10.720 But also they say we're going to get the parents involved to reinforce this.

00:43:13.640 So parents are going to have to do social emotional learning activities with their children.

00:43:16.860 And then if they don't, eventually what you're going to see under things like the community school models that they're pushing toward, the so-called WSCC model, whole child, what is it, WSCC, whole school, whole community, whole child model that they're trying to push for.

00:43:30.940 This is already in many states.

00:43:32.600 It's in Oklahoma.

00:43:33.480 That's not blue state.

00:43:34.940 It's all over California.

00:43:36.000 That is a blue state.

00:43:37.680 This model is going to, the goal is to force parents to participate in the ideological brainwashing, so-called affirmation and celebration of their kids.

00:43:46.360 And it's exactly the same thing we've been talking about.

00:43:49.220 And it is a state imposing a value system that answers fundamental questions about the world and our role in it and that inspires duties of conscience, which in this case is affirmation of a particular ideology and everything that goes with it, which means it meets the First Amendment establishment clause definition of a religion according to the Supreme Court.

00:44:10.280 Totally, totally.

00:44:11.280 Totally, totally.

00:44:12.580 And you can kind of see, you can kind of see why people believe that the only response to a religion like that is a religious response on the other end of it.

00:44:24.160 And I know we could talk about, you know, what that looks like and all of that.

00:44:27.120 And we don't have time.

00:44:28.020 We'll have you back once.

00:44:28.880 No, I understand it, though.

00:44:29.900 I do understand the impulse.

00:44:31.220 Yeah.

00:44:31.440 I just, I advise care.

00:44:33.920 Yeah.

00:44:34.320 Yeah.

00:44:34.520 Okay, thank you, James.

00:44:35.860 As always, I so appreciate your insight.

00:44:38.940 Fascinating, as it always is.

00:44:40.440 Thank you so much.

00:44:41.300 And people can find you on Twitter.

00:44:44.460 They can find your links.

00:44:45.400 They can find all your books, all that good stuff.

00:44:47.300 You're easy to find.

00:44:48.060 So thank you so much, James.

00:44:50.080 Yeah, I love talking to you.

00:44:51.340 So thanks for having me.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 19, 2023

Ep 791 ｜ The U.N.’s Push to Decriminalize Child Rape ｜ Guest： James Lindsay

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