Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 794 ｜ Can Fox Survive Without Tucker？

00:00:00.000 Well, Tucker Carlson is no longer at Fox News after a sudden announcement yesterday by Fox.

00:00:07.780 And of course, the leftists are celebrating, but I don't think there's much cause for celebration.

00:00:14.560 So we'll break this all down, explain what happened, why it probably happened, what this

00:00:21.940 all means and what we can look forward to for the future. Gosh, there's a lot to talk about today.

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00:00:46.740 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far.

00:00:52.720 So before we get into all the things that we need to talk about, because man, I have so

00:00:57.060 much to talk about today. If you didn't see on Instagram, fun experience that I had yesterday.

00:01:03.040 So I was actually at the Daily Wire filming something with Candace, which will be out soon.

00:01:08.180 It was a really fun discussion and debate about Catholicism versus Protestantism with her husband,

00:01:13.560 actually, George Farmer, who is a brilliant and very kind guy. I think that y'all will get a lot

00:01:18.460 out of that discussion. So I'll talk about it or I'll link it on Instagram or something when it comes

00:01:23.880 out. But on the flight, I was sitting next to a celebrity. And well, let me back up before I

00:01:32.940 even tell you who it was. Most of you probably know because you follow me on Instagram. So

00:01:36.960 I was getting on to the flight. I fly pretty frequently. So I'm like one of the first people

00:01:42.980 to get on the plane. But I noticed that there was a person getting on the plane before they called

00:01:48.500 Group One or Concierge Key or whatever. And he was walking on the plane with a dog that was not on

00:01:56.680 the leash. And you guys know I am very strict about my airport rules, about the things that we should

00:02:03.140 wear on airplanes, how we should behave when we're traveling. And one thing that's just crazy to me

00:02:08.680 is the prevalence of animals, all kinds of animals on planes, especially when the dog is like

00:02:17.120 sleeping across the aisle or across people's feet on the road. Like I like dogs, but I do think about

00:02:24.560 the fact, OK, some people are allergic to dogs. Can we really trust that this dog isn't going to

00:02:29.780 snap or growl or bark or disrupt this flight, whatever? I just think it's strange how accommodating

00:02:35.300 we've become. And so I thought that it was really weird that this person was allowed to just like walk

00:02:40.620 around the airport with his dog, not on a leash, which was a very well behaved dog. And it was a little

00:02:45.840 bulldog. I don't even think they're genetically capable of attacking anyone. But they were getting

00:02:51.180 on the flight and I was like, OK, that was odd. I actually texted my husband and was like, this person

00:02:55.580 is walking around without without a leash for his dog, which I just thought was funny. So then we get

00:03:02.660 on the plane and I'm getting to my seat and I look at my ticket and I'm like, no way I am sitting by

00:03:09.840 the unleashed dog. That is of all the seats I'm sitting by this unleashed dog. And then I get ready

00:03:16.120 to put my stuff down and I say, oh, is this your book? Because there was a book in my seat. And I

00:03:21.320 looked up and I was like, that is Dennis Quaid. Dennis Quaid and his dog, his bulldog are sitting

00:03:29.880 right next to me on this plane. And I like kind of had a little internal freak out. But externally,

00:03:35.440 I stayed very calm, cool and collected. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, does he know that he was like

00:03:41.700 the first crush of every girl that was born between like 1988 and 1995 in the parent trap?

00:03:50.060 I'm sure he knows. I'm sure he knows that. I don't need to tell him. I don't need to say anything.

00:03:53.580 So the only thing I said was, what's your dog's name? And he said Peaches. And then I didn't talk

00:03:59.060 to him for the rest of the flight, which hopefully he appreciated. Because if I were someone like that,

00:04:04.280 he's been famous for so long, has so many interactions with fans, I'm sure over the span

00:04:09.560 of his career, maybe hopefully he appreciated the kind of silence and privacy that he had.

00:04:15.300 But I have a friend who is the biggest Dennis Quaid fan who has ever lived like she has loved Dennis

00:04:23.940 Quaid, probably from seat like from the time we watched parent trap when we were six years old in

00:04:29.580 1998. And so I was texting her and I was like, you are never going to guess who I'm sitting by right

00:04:36.080 now. And she was like, oh, my gosh, you have to get a picture. And of course, I wanted to attest to

00:04:39.860 you guys that I was sitting by Dennis Quaid. And so finally, at the very end of the flight, actually,

00:04:45.500 we were taxiing. We were almost to the jet bridge. And I finally said something about like,

00:04:50.920 liking his stuff. I didn't even know what to say. What do you even say to someone who has been in so

00:04:55.220 many movies? I think I said something dumb, like I appreciate your work. What do you even say that 0.86

00:05:02.420 about an actor? I don't know. That's something like someone would say to me about my work. I don't

00:05:08.520 know if you say that to an actor, but I did. And then we talked to or I said something about the

00:05:12.420 faith based stuff that he's done recently. He played Reagan in a movie, but he also was in a movie

00:05:17.220 recently. I think a wing and a wing and a prayer. There were several faith based movies that he's done

00:05:22.060 recently. And so I said something about that. We talked a little bit about the Reagan movie. He

00:05:27.540 was super nice. He was very nice and like very polite. And that was that was basically it was a

00:05:34.760 very short conversation. And then I mustered up the courage to be like, I know that this is probably

00:05:40.020 annoying, but will you please take a picture with me? And so we took a little selfie. I'll put it up

00:05:45.280 if you're watching it on YouTube. But anyway, Dennis Quaid, very nice, very nice person. You never know.

00:05:51.040 There's a wide range of celebrity personalities out there, and you never know what you're going

00:05:56.220 to get. And he was it was a very pleasant interaction, a very pleasant experience, which

00:06:00.660 is always great to see. So thanks to this Quaid for taking the time to chat with me for a second.

00:06:06.760 And for all of you out there who are still like, oh, Nick Parker. Yeah, I got to meet him.

00:06:13.640 I think that's him and Channing Tatum. Those are like two of the only besides conservative

00:06:19.920 media celebrities. Those are two of the only celebrities that I've ever met. Tommy Lee from

00:06:26.040 Motley Crue was sitting in front of me in a flight not that long ago. I think that's it. I think that's

00:06:32.200 it. I can't remember. Anyway, so that was a little cool interaction. That was just a little story that

00:06:36.180 I wanted to share that I thought that y'all would enjoy.

00:06:51.160 All right. So yesterday was a shake up day in conservative media. Most of you know about this.

00:06:58.180 I mean, this was like this was a big deal when I saw this. I think I saw Yashar Ali, who is a

00:07:04.340 journalist, first report this. And I thought that he was joking. Now, why would he joke about this?

00:07:09.700 I'm not really sure. It's not really like a funny joke, but it was just so jarring to me.

00:07:15.200 So difficult to believe at first. So sudden that I thought, I don't know, it was some kind of

00:07:21.920 elaborate prank. But then I went on Twitter and I saw it confirmed and Fox News released a statement

00:07:27.700 saying Fox News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. Now, that's an interesting

00:07:33.980 choice in words already that I'm not sure is reflective of reality. Have agreed to part ways.

00:07:40.660 We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor.

00:07:46.260 Mr. Carlson's last program was Friday, April 21st. So that's not always common either. A lot of times,

00:07:53.480 if this is an agreement to end a professional relationship, often it will be that the host has

00:08:03.420 an opportunity to host their last show, say goodbye to their audience, kind of have a tribute to the

00:08:10.600 show, to the team. He wasn't, he wasn't able to do that. He wasn't given that opportunity, apparently.

00:08:16.440 So his last show was last Friday, April 21st. And they say Fox News Tonight will air live at 8pm ET

00:08:24.820 starting this evening as an interim show helmed by rotating Fox News personalities until a new host is

00:08:32.480 named. You'll probably remember they did that, I believe, in the seven o'clock hour when they moved

00:08:37.480 Martha McCallum. Isn't that what happened? And they did Fox News Tonight and they rotated hosts for like 0.98

00:08:43.260 a year before they finally landed on Jesse Waters. And so they're probably going to do that for a while.

00:08:52.780 I'm really interested to see who they have to take his place. I bet that they're probably not rushed to

00:08:58.620 find that person because they want to make sure that it is the correct choice. But if you look back at

00:09:04.680 Friday's episode, a lot of people are talking about this. He had a final scene where he had on the guy,

00:09:11.880 you probably saw this viral video, he's a pizza delivery guy, and he actually helped cops stop this runaway

00:09:17.980 criminal. He went to the sidewalk with his box of pizza, you can see it on the ring doorbell camera,

00:09:24.400 and stuck out his foot. And this fleeing criminal tripped over his foot and the cops were able to

00:09:31.080 tackle him. And so Tucker had this guy on, they had pizza. It was like a fun, lighthearted segment.

00:09:36.380 And then at the end of that, he says, see you Monday. So it does seem like this was very sudden.

00:09:42.720 And some reports are saying that Tucker did not know about this, that he was surprised by this,

00:09:49.120 and apparently that Tucker's staff even found out via Twitter that there wasn't internal communication

00:09:54.700 about this, and that this was very shocking. Now the theories circulating, there are many theories

00:09:59.980 circulating, have to do with a lot of different things. I don't think anyone knows for sure. I have

00:10:07.020 talked to people who have a close relationship with Tucker Carlson, and at least as of yesterday,

00:10:12.120 they did not know the real story behind it. So I'm sure there are some people in his close circle who

00:10:17.940 really know exactly what happened or what was the impetus here. But right now, a bunch of people

00:10:22.940 are speculating. Glenn Beck, my colleague, Megan Cowley, having been in primetime Fox slots,

00:10:31.180 they have some insight and they have circulated some theories about what's going on. I don't think

00:10:36.140 anyone knows for sure. So as of now, anyone who tells you this is exactly why he laughed, or this is

00:10:43.680 really going on behind the scenes, they're probably lying to you. They probably don't know. As I said,

00:10:51.560 Carlson gave no indication that he was leaving in his last nightly appearance. Axios reported that the

00:10:58.300 decision to fire Carlson was made Friday night by Fox Corporation CEO Lachlan Murdoch and Fox News CEO

00:11:06.960 Suzanne Scott. The LA Times is reporting that it was Fox Corporation chair Rupert Murdoch who made the

00:11:13.120 final decision to part ways with Tucker Carlson. Nothing happens, of course, without the chair,

00:11:20.220 Rupert Murdoch's final say-so. So obviously, all of the top dogs at Fox were involved in this decision.

00:11:28.840 Obviously, what's incredible about this is how popular Tucker was. That's why there's so much

00:11:34.020 consternation, so much confusion about this because he was number one in cable news. He was insanely

00:11:41.560 popular. He left Hannity in the dust a while ago. And he's also the most interesting person in cable

00:11:49.560 news. Of course, I'm saying this as a conservative, someone who largely agrees with him. However, there

00:11:54.680 just isn't anyone like him on MSNBC or CNN. That's why he was so popular. He also had a unique audience.

00:12:02.140 The Fox audience is very old. I mean, I shouldn't say very old, but it is older compared to the rest

00:12:07.940 of the population. It's mostly 60 plus. And yet, he carried more weight than other hosts did, other

00:12:16.400 networks did, and other hosts on Fox with a younger audience. So he was very unique. And we all know,

00:12:22.520 those of us who have watched Tucker, we know why he's unique. He has original thoughts. As I've heard a

00:12:27.340 lot of people say, and as we've all observed, he's an incredible writer. He writes those opening

00:12:32.400 monologues that make poignant points that maybe all of us have considered in one way or another,

00:12:37.520 but we needed someone to articulate it in a profound and very clear way to confirm our suspicions

00:12:42.840 that something's wrong with X, Y, or Z in our country. And that's what Tucker did. That's why he

00:12:48.120 was so popular. I think I started tuning into him really, really regularly. My husband and I both did

00:12:53.940 during COVID when everything is marked by confusion, or maybe it was actually, it was during COVID,

00:12:59.520 but right after the whole George Floyd thing, when he was really the only one saying what is true.

00:13:06.700 And then of course, after the Ukraine and Russia conflict, which of course is still ongoing,

00:13:12.060 but after we heard that that was going to be World War III, again, he was the only one that I saw

00:13:19.520 right away bucking up against the popular narrative. That is what he did. Even when it comes to something

00:13:26.120 as contentious as January 6th, Tucker was willing to be the only one to say, wait, wait, wait.

00:13:33.360 Is that true? Is that right? Should we believe what the government is saying? Should we believe what

00:13:39.160 these agencies are saying? Should we believe what the other pundits are saying? That doesn't really

00:13:44.220 match up. Look, you don't have very many pundits out there, certainly on liberal outlets who are

00:13:50.100 willing to do that, especially when it comes to something like the vaccine. That's the one thing

00:13:56.120 that a lot of hosts, even conservative hosts, will not touch, including at Fox News. There are some who

00:14:02.860 will, but most simply won't. They'll shill for the vaccine like many other hosts on liberal outlets

00:14:09.840 will. And so Tucker was willing to stand alone. And that is why he was so incredibly popular.

00:14:17.560 And for a company that cares about their bottom line, cares about their popularity a lot,

00:14:24.300 it is a very significant and seemingly strange decision to cut your top talent, knowing that the

00:14:33.100 bench behind him is not very deep. Now, there are definitely some talented people at Fox News

00:14:38.980 that could possibly rise to the occasion, maybe even people that we're not thinking of yet.

00:14:44.040 Because I see a lot of people saying no one could fill his shoes. I happen to think that's probably 0.98

00:14:49.240 true just because no one has his exact mind. And I think his mind is very interesting.

00:14:55.200 But there could be people, there could be people who come up behind him, who have talent and skill

00:15:02.540 and things to say and thoughts that we haven't even really heard yet, or we haven't even really

00:15:07.080 considered yet. And so while everyone is saying Fox News is going to implode, they're never going to

00:15:14.800 be able to replace him. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It's hard for me to believe that I will like a host

00:15:21.800 as much as I like Tucker Carlson's show. But Fox is Fox. Even though cable news is losing popularity,

00:15:31.320 absolutely. And it will continue to do so. Fox News is still Fox News. And they are going to look

00:15:40.140 for a replacement. They're going to make sure that the show is successful, probably not as successful

00:15:44.820 as it was when Tucker Carlson hosted it. But they are going to buoy themselves. They lost Bill O'Reilly

00:15:51.720 at the time. People thought that Bill O'Reilly was Fox News. At the top of his game, they let go of

00:15:59.660 Bill O'Reilly. And then you had Megyn Kelly who walked away, who was in that primetime slot, 0.94

00:16:04.740 and who I would have said, I would have said at the time, because I love, I still love Megyn Kelly

00:16:09.600 so much. And I do think that she is one of the most interesting and compelling people in media

00:16:13.600 to this day. And I thought so then. I thought there's no one who in the world is ever going

00:16:18.540 to replace Megyn Kelly. Who's ever going to be as interesting as Megyn Kelly? Who is ever going to be

00:16:23.380 able to bring the heat like Megyn Kelly did? I didn't even know who Tucker Carlson was then. A lot of

00:16:28.080 people in media did. But I didn't. I had no idea. A lot of people didn't know who he was.

00:16:32.520 And then Tucker Carlson comes along. And at the beginning of his show, I think his show did well.

00:16:37.440 It did fine. But it really blew up in a really good way after 2020. So I say that to say that we don't

00:16:46.360 know who could replace Tucker Carlson. And it might be someone who ends up in a couple years after they

00:16:53.640 really kind of exercise and flex their hosting muscles, who ends up being a really, really strong

00:17:01.260 host and hosts a really popular show. That is still possible. I just want to remind people that

00:17:08.140 every time we think it's going to be the end of the world or an organization is going to just change

00:17:13.180 and never be able to recover because they lost a top talent. I mean, people have been saying that

00:17:18.180 about all kinds of companies and all kinds of networks for a really long time. Maybe it's true.

00:17:22.380 Maybe it's true. Maybe Fox is completely going downhill. They lost Dan Balgino, which is a huge

00:17:27.280 loss. He's been there, I think, for about 15 years. And then we do see CNN imploding. And MSNBC is doing

00:17:35.600 fine. They'll probably stay where they are with their demographic and the liberals in this country

00:17:40.400 because they're really the only liberal cable news network that has any success at all.

00:17:46.680 Um, and so yes, we will see, we'll see the decline of cable news, but I'm not sure if that means that

00:17:56.120 Fox is never going to recover and they are never going to be able to get back up on their feet

00:18:01.740 and host a really popular primetime show. They probably will. The question is who is going to

00:18:08.120 host it? As I said, I don't know. Even looking outside of Fox because of the decline of cable news,

00:18:15.060 I just don't know that there are that many people who would want that job within Fox probably. But

00:18:22.520 look, the media landscape is not what it used to be. And I, I'm not sure how well people outside,

00:18:28.660 or maybe you do really well, but people outside of the media landscape kind of realize how much it's

00:18:34.040 changed. Even five years ago, I think I would have said that, of course, my, the pinnacle of my

00:18:41.720 conservative media career would be to host a show at Fox news, even knowing how unlikely that would

00:18:47.400 be because there are so few people that ever get that privilege. But that's what I would have said.

00:18:51.560 I think that's what most in conservative media would have said that to have an interview on Fox,

00:18:56.660 to be on primetime Fox as a contributor, as a guest, as a host. I mean, that is what everyone

00:19:04.820 is going toward and everything that you do as a conservative media contributor commentator is

00:19:10.980 leading you to that hope. That's what most people in conservative media would have said that everyone

00:19:16.140 wants to vie for that top spot at Fox. That is not true anymore. That's not true anymore. Look,

00:19:24.660 if Candace Owens or Ben Shapiro, if they got offered that spot at Fox, I mean, it would still be

00:19:32.060 really cool. But I mean, I don't know their exact numbers, but I know they have a very large audience.

00:19:39.440 They probably, probably make more money, have bigger reach, have greater influence, have more autonomy

00:19:48.640 and freedom than they would if they moved to Fox. For Ben Shapiro to move to Fox, he would actually

00:19:56.180 probably have a loss in reach, a loss in impact for a variety of reasons. One, his audience would

00:20:03.520 become all of a sudden a lot older than it is. And so you just don't have that much of a lasting

00:20:08.480 audience anymore. Your audience becomes attached to the network rather than just to you.

00:20:16.180 You don't have the freedom to say everything that you're going to say. Ben Shapiro already makes a lot

00:20:21.780 of money doing what he does. He would no longer be able to do that anymore. So I'm not sure. Like

00:20:26.620 the most interesting people, the most successful people in conservative media are not at Fox News.

00:20:32.680 They're not. You can make good money, have a huge impact, have tons of opportunities and so much

00:20:38.980 flexibility and freedom. You can live wherever you want to if you have a popular podcast or some kind of

00:20:47.000 digital media opportunity. There's really no reason for someone who is successful in conservative media

00:20:54.860 outside of Fox to move to Fox, especially if you have to move to Manhattan. I mean, maybe that's not

00:21:00.860 the case. I know that's not what Tucker Carlson was doing. So that is that I don't know. I do think

00:21:07.520 they'll be able to find someone. I think it's going to be difficult because the top people that I can think

00:21:12.200 of that would be really good in that slot, that would be the best at that slot, are not at Fox News.

00:21:18.780 And who's going to leave their post outside of Fox News in conservative media to go to Fox News

00:21:24.900 and cut so much, so much benefit and freedom and money, honestly, probably, and reach from your life?

00:21:34.600 I don't know. I don't know. As for Tucker Carlson, because of that landscape that I just described to

00:21:39.800 where people in my position are no longer dreaming to go to Fox News. They're just not. That's not even

00:21:44.460 on my horizon. That's not a possibility. That's not a desire of mine. I would be insane. That would

00:21:51.280 be insane. It's so crazy how much it's changed. That's just not a dream or goal of mine at all

00:21:57.300 anymore. And that's true for most people, I think, in conservative media who have kind of made it out

00:22:01.300 here. And because of that, Tucker Carlson, he is going to be successful somewhere else. He's going

00:22:09.100 to be successful somewhere else. He's going to start his own thing. I mean, if Spotify were smart,

00:22:14.740 if they weren't so ideologically driven, if they weren't so flimsy about their convictions,

00:22:22.580 they've defended Joe Rogan, who is not even a conservative, but not really. They've kind of

00:22:28.580 done that whole thing of like, oh, we believe in freedom of expression, but there are limits,

00:22:32.800 blah, blah, blah. And so, but if they were smart and if they just cared about their bottom line,

00:22:38.300 which these companies should, then they would give Tucker Carlson a deal like they gave Joe Rogan.

00:22:47.020 But they're probably not going to do that because of the ridiculous accusation that he's some kind of

00:22:53.160 extremist or he's out there. He's on the quote unquote far right. That would be smart. 0.69

00:22:58.580 That would be smart of him, of them. He could go to Rumble. He could start his own thing there.

00:23:03.900 He would have incredibly large reach and incredible impact, make a lot of money, make the company a lot

00:23:09.980 of money. I know that every conservative media outlet is reaching out to him right now and saying,

00:23:16.440 hey, come on over. Might be a little bit of a pay cut, but we'll treat you right. Of course,

00:23:22.000 that would be a huge benefit to all of these conservative companies to have Tucker Carlson.

00:23:28.280 I think a lot of people leave Fox and they think that their audience will follow them.

00:23:35.540 And it doesn't happen because I think that there are probably some people at Fox who think, no,

00:23:40.320 I'm different. I am the host. I'm the contributor that people, they tune in for me. They watch for me

00:23:47.440 and they're going to follow me wherever I go. Most of the time, that's not true. It's just not. That's

00:23:52.660 just the tough truth of it is that they're going to keep watching whoever replaces you. I think

00:23:56.920 Tucker is different in the same way that Megyn Kelly was different. Megyn Kelly is now wildly

00:24:01.720 successful with her podcast. It's not the same as cable news. I think it's better. She is totally

00:24:06.720 free to say what she wants to say. She has an incredible reach, incredible impact, so much influence

00:24:13.520 in a way that I think is better and more effective than when she was at Fox. She does really well.

00:24:20.480 She has had an audience after several years after she quit following her and supporting her,

00:24:25.660 and then a new audience that probably didn't watch cable news, a younger audience. So again,

00:24:30.380 not benefit for her. I think that will also be true for Tucker Carlson, that he will find a new

00:24:35.300 audience. He will find a younger audience. He will find a more curious audience, that he will be even

00:24:40.320 freer to say what he really wants to say. So I think this will end up being really beneficial.

00:24:48.480 Now, there are a lot of people who are celebrating this and who are saying, this is amazing. This is a

00:24:55.800 win for the left, and this is a win for democracy, blah, blah, blah. One of those people is Alexandria

00:25:06.740 Ocasio-Cortez, one of our favorites here on this show, AOC. And before I play you her reaction

00:25:13.240 to what he said, let me play you something that may or may not have played into his exit. Not that I

00:25:23.380 think that Fox News is listening to AOC, but it's just another one of the contributing factors in the

00:25:30.620 kind of like mountain of opposition against Tucker Carlson because he is such a free thinker and

00:25:36.840 truth speaker. She was on Jen Psaki's show. Do you remember her, Circleback Girl? She was press 0.56

00:25:43.540 secretary. I was trying to talk about her the other day, and I completely blinked on her name. She still

00:25:47.800 has a show on MSNBC. She could never dream of having a show as popular as Tucker Carlson. She would

00:25:53.600 never be as talented as Tucker Carlson. But she has a show on MSNBC, and she interviewed a few days ago,

00:26:00.620 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. And here's what AOC had to say about what should happen to a show like

00:26:08.120 Tucker's. And when you look at what Tucker Carlson and some of these other folks on Fox do, it is very,

00:26:15.060 very clearly incitement of violence, very clearly incitement of violence. And that is the line that I

00:26:24.360 think we have to be willing to contend with. It's not. It's actually not very clearly incitement of

00:26:31.700 violence. Incitement of violence is actual explicit incitement of violence. You are actually encouraging

00:26:38.680 people actively and explicitly to go out and harm someone physically, to commit acts of violence,

00:26:47.080 violence, saying things that are controversial, stating opinions, giving facts, reporting on a

00:26:53.900 story, even talking about how crazy Ocasio-Cortez is, is not incitement of violence. Unfortunately,

00:27:00.720 there are very deranged people who will take what someone says and say, well, that motivates me to be

00:27:08.660 violent or to threaten that person, which is awful. I don't think anyone should receive that. Even AOC,

00:27:13.600 I don't think anyone should be on the receiving end of those kinds of threats and threats of

00:27:17.040 violence and the death threats that she says that she's gotten. But he does not fit the bill. His

00:27:22.620 words do not fit the bill for what incitement of violence is. Really, she just doesn't like his

00:27:26.540 reporting. She doesn't like his reporting. If he is guilty of incitement of violence, then all the

00:27:31.340 people on the leftist networks are guilty of incitement of violence, too, for lying about the BLM

00:27:36.220 riots and protests and saying things like riots are the voice of the unheard and that this kind of

00:27:40.700 violence is actually justified in order to fight back against injustice. And actually, we've seen

00:27:45.820 many Democratic Congress people, many Democratic Congress people say that people need to go out in

00:27:51.900 the streets. This includes Kamala Harris. This includes Maxine Waters saying that people need to

00:27:57.940 rise up and go in the streets. And you could definitely argue that there was some kind of tacit

00:28:04.880 encouragement of the threats and the violence against the Supreme Court justices after the Dobbs

00:28:10.220 decision was decided last year. But what AOC means is that she just doesn't like Tucker Carlson.

00:28:18.640 And so after this was announced yesterday, she got on Instagram Live and she decided to

00:28:25.220 celebrate what happened. Here's what she had to say. Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News.

00:28:31.460 It couldn't have happened to a better guy. What I will say, though, is while I'm very glad that the

00:28:45.340 person that was arguably responsible for the some of the largest driving some of the most amounts of

00:28:52.620 death threats and violent threats, not just to my office, but to plenty of people across the country,

00:28:56.800 um, I also kind of feel like I'm like waiting for the cut scene at the end of a Marvel movie after all

00:29:04.360 the credits have rolled. And then you see like the villains like hand reemerge out to grip grip over

00:29:13.360 like the end of a building or something. But deep platforming works. And it is important. And, um,

00:29:22.160 there you go. Good things can happen. You got issues, girl. You got issues. Tucker's not going

00:29:30.920 away. He's not. Y'all are going to be very disappointed to find that Tucker Carlson still

00:29:37.000 has incredible reach and impact and is probably more effective in whatever his new role is than

00:29:44.540 he will. He will have been at Fox. Um, you've also got the ladies at the view. We'll talk about that in a

00:29:54.740 second. All right, here are the ladies at the view celebrating the news of Tucker.

00:30:14.520 Tucker Carlson's departure from Fox yesterday. Wave

00:30:20.100 Come on, folks. Na, na, na, na. Na, na, na, na. Hey, hey, hey. Goodbye.

00:30:35.280 He is responsible for the degradation that we see somewhat of our democracy in this country.

00:30:43.460 And I just think as a faithful person, look at God. Look at God.

00:30:48.320 What? What? Okay. You know why there's five of those women on that show? Because not a single 1.00

00:30:53.620 one of them could carry a show by themselves. Not a single one of them could hope for the kinds of

00:30:58.960 ratings, the kinds of pop, the kind of popularity that Tucker Carlson had. And so, oh my gosh,

00:31:04.800 the best they can do is the cringetastic wave like it's 1998 and sing a stupid, silly song about Tucker 1.00

00:31:15.400 Carlson leaving Fox. And look to God. What in the world are you talking about? What in the world are 1.00

00:31:23.020 you talking about? Do you think the chaos and the confusion and the absolute hot mess that is the view

00:31:31.300 every day in any way represents order or truth or beauty or brings value to anyone's life? The view is

00:31:42.140 a net negative on society. You can celebrate Tucker Carlson's departure all you want to. You still,

00:31:51.180 not a single one of you, will ever have the influence that he has had. And that's just the truth

00:31:58.460 of it. So before we talk about some more responses, I do want to go back a little bit. I'm going a

00:32:04.740 little bit out of order because the kind of reaction that I had at the beginning was just

00:32:09.380 extemporaneous. Just speaking as someone who is on the outside of mainstream conservative media and yet

00:32:15.800 has had many interactions, probably with all of the corporate media outlets at this point and most of

00:32:23.960 the non-corporate media outlets. And so I don't claim to have any, you know, fascinating insider

00:32:31.320 information, maybe more than most people out there. But I don't have like a ton of special Fox News,

00:32:37.940 Tucker Carlson, insider, anything like that. But just kind of from my perspective as someone who has

00:32:43.920 been in conservative media for however many years it's been now, five, six, seven years, I don't even

00:32:49.840 remember. It is interesting to see how the media landscape has changed and how that's going to

00:32:56.060 play out with this kind of shakeup. But I do want to talk a little bit about what people are talking

00:33:01.700 about could be the reason for his departure. So you may or may not know about the Dominion

00:33:08.660 Voting Systems defamation suit, where basically Dominion Voting Systems sued Fox News for defamation.

00:33:16.600 Now, it's really hard to win a case by accusing an entity or an individual of defamation because

00:33:24.720 there's a lot that you have to prove. Understandably, there's a very high standard because we have

00:33:28.820 something called the First Amendment and the First Amendment guarantees our right to free speech.

00:33:33.540 There is a very high standard for journalists. They should be able to say what they want to say

00:33:38.280 without fear that they are going to get punished by the government in some way.

00:33:42.120 And so basically what Dominion has tried to prove is that the host that talked about the corruption

00:33:49.140 of the Dominion Voting Systems, that the accusation was that they were used in a corrupt way in order to

00:33:56.260 guarantee the election for Joe Biden and make Trump lose, they tried to show that the host knew that that

00:34:03.880 was not true. And yet they turned around and told their audience that it absolutely was true.

00:34:09.520 And they ended up settling. Fox News ended up settling with Dominion Voting Systems.

00:34:16.540 There were because there was some proof that there were some hosts that knew that the information

00:34:23.460 they were getting about Dominion Voting Systems being corrupted, that it was sketchy and they did

00:34:29.580 go on air and they talked about it anyway. And so some people are saying this was a part of that

00:34:34.900 settlement that Dominion said as a part of the settlement, you have to let some of these people go,

00:34:39.140 including Tucker Carlson. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense because Tucker Carlson is actually

00:34:45.600 the one who went on air and said that a lot of those claims are totally bogus because you'll remember

00:34:50.560 it was attorney Sidney Powell who was trying to prove that these Dominion Voting Systems, that they

00:34:56.060 were corrupted, that they were guaranteeing the win for Biden. And Tucker invited Sidney Powell on his

00:35:02.580 show and said, look, bring us the evidence, show us that this is true. And he basically called her a liar

00:35:10.540 in nicer terms because he wanted to see the evidence. He didn't believe that she was able to present the

00:35:15.880 evidence. And so he told his audience, I don't think these claims are true because she hasn't brought any

00:35:22.540 evidence for that they are true. And so it doesn't really make that much sense for the defamation suit

00:35:31.000 to be a part of this. I don't know the answer to this. I think that there were probably a lot of

00:35:38.180 internal and external factors. A lot of it had to do with the fact that he faces so much opposition.

00:35:45.920 There had to be internal, external pressures. I don't know that any of us on the outside can put our finger

00:35:52.920 on any one thing and say that was it. I've heard Megyn Kelly analyze this, that Rupert Murdoch 0.98

00:35:59.720 isn't someone that listens to like a bunch of outside voices or the media or what people are negatively

00:36:05.600 saying about a host. So it had to be more than that. But I'm sure that the opposition had to have

00:36:12.360 contributed again to lose your top talent and to say you're out and you don't even get a goodbye show

00:36:20.360 and your staff doesn't even really get a formal announcement before we say something on Twitter,

00:36:25.700 like something big had to have occurred here to take that kind of loss and to not know who is coming

00:36:32.480 up behind you. I mean, that's that's really big. That that's a that's a really big decision for him

00:36:40.060 to have made. Now, Tucker has been he's been facing calls for censorship for a very long time.

00:36:51.580 If you just look up Tucker Carlson's name on Twitter, you will see a slew of leftists for the past

00:36:58.320 several years saying that he should be taken off air. I mean, these are the people who, of course,

00:37:03.480 claim to be anti-fascists themselves, who claim to be for freedom and for rights and for equality.

00:37:12.640 And yet they believe that a journalist, because of his opinions, because of his factual reporting,

00:37:19.000 even because of his investigations, that he should be taken off air because they disagree with him.

00:37:24.640 These people always applaud government force and state action when it aligns with their value system,

00:37:34.920 when it aligns with their worldview. They will stop at nothing to use the powers that be to crush

00:37:40.400 their enemies. Meanwhile, they will call you the Nazi and you the fascist. That's, of course,

00:37:45.540 what they did with Tucker Carlson. One of their biggest gripes was with his so-called replacement

00:37:51.360 theory. He talked about immigration a lot. That's something that he really cared about

00:37:56.000 and obviously believed that illegal immigration was a big problem. And he simply cited articles

00:38:03.220 and statements in liberal media by Democrats, Democrat activists, and also Democrat politicians

00:38:09.360 who said, look, America is getting less white. And if America is less white, it's going to become 0.84

00:38:15.620 more democratic. Is that a replacement theory or is that just what Democrats are saying?

00:38:21.360 So Tucker Carlson would talk about that. He would talk about that reality that demographic 0.76

00:38:25.860 shifts in the country are going to make a difference in culture. They're going to make a difference in

00:38:31.420 crime. They're going to make a difference in how our government functions. It's going to make a

00:38:36.520 difference in simply a new mass of any type of person is going to change safety. It's going to change

00:38:45.620 cleanliness. It's going to change neighborhoods. Of course, it's going to change things. It's going to

00:38:51.280 change the job market. It's going to change the economy. It's going to change the values of a

00:38:57.000 country. That's true. He is simply repeating what Democrats say about this, but he's saying it's a bad

00:39:02.800 thing. They're saying it's a good thing. And of course, I'm on Tucker Carlson's side on this. I'm on

00:39:07.620 the side of order. Democrats are on the side of chaos. And so this is one of the things that he would

00:39:13.540 say often, this so-called replacement theory, which they would say is white supremacists that they would

00:39:19.020 use as a reason to take him off air. Of course, him revealing some of the behind the scenes that

00:39:25.120 happened on January 6th, him questioning the Ukraine-Russia narrative. And look, I mean,

00:39:32.360 Fox has gotten more liberal. I don't know, again, if this is the reason why he was let go so suddenly.

00:39:39.680 I don't know. Fox has gotten more liberal. Bruce slash Caitlyn Jenner is a contributor on Fox,

00:39:47.100 a regular, on Sean Hannity's show. I mean, I see the other Fox hosts praising him and saying,

00:39:56.900 you know, this person is on our side. Look, Caitlyn Jenner is just as much of a mockery of women 1.00

00:40:02.540 as Dylan Mulvaney is. Like, he is just as much advancing this very dangerous idea that a man can 0.90

00:40:11.980 become a woman. If you affirm this idea that a man can become a woman, that Bruce Jenner is a woman,

00:40:18.140 then why can't men and boys go into women's locker rooms and bathrooms? Why can't they compete on the 1.00

00:40:24.040 same athletic teams as girls? Why do we have sex-exclusive spaces, domestic shelters, prisons, 0.99

00:40:32.760 rights, rights, laws? If a man can become a woman, if Bruce is really Caitlyn and we're calling him

00:40:40.980 she-her, then we really don't have any leg to stand on at all when it comes to fighting for women's 1.00

00:40:48.440 privacy and fairness in rights. And by platforming this person, by affirming the idea that he is

00:40:55.420 actually a woman, you're actually obliterating any of the things that you might say that you're 0.98

00:41:01.560 fighting for in this battle against gender ideology. But the right is very weak. We see

00:41:07.280 someone who agrees with us a little bit and we just, we ignore the big picture of the battle of

00:41:15.260 the war that we're fighting. And so, and he didn't do that. And I think, if I remember correctly,

00:41:22.300 he actually uses correct pronouns, biological pronouns for people. So he just wasn't on the same

00:41:29.400 trajectory that Fox is, which I think is a liberal trajectory. You'll remember a couple years ago

00:41:35.280 that they had a segment. I like Dana Perino. I really do. But it was Dana Perino's show

00:41:41.260 where they did this glowing segment of this family who had a little boy or had a little girl rather

00:41:48.700 that they transitioned to a little boy at like two years old. This was a celebration of Pride Month.

00:41:56.040 I think it was last year. And we were all supposed to applaud and think this is beautiful. Are you

00:41:59.900 kidding me? That means that you are playing a part in these minors being permanently maimed and

00:42:06.880 sterilized in the name of so-called gender affirmation. So we've got our conservative media

00:42:13.460 outlet going down that path. And as far as I could see, as far as I could see, Tucker wasn't really

00:42:20.020 playing along with it. And I thought that his speech at the Heritage 50th anniversary

00:42:27.040 dinner on Friday, and I'm so sad I couldn't make it. I spoke for, I spoke at the, they had like a few

00:42:35.040 day long thing. And I spoke on Wednesday and I had to leave on Thursday. I might be getting my days

00:42:42.860 mixed up. Or maybe it was Thursday. I had to leave on Friday. I think that's what it was. Anyway,

00:42:47.320 but I couldn't stay. I couldn't stay for the banquet that night. And so I didn't get to see

00:42:52.620 the speech live, but I caught the clips of it after. And I think this just goes to show

00:42:57.200 like how far apart he is from so many of the other people at Fox that one made him really popular,

00:43:03.820 but also made him maybe not fit as well as some other more moderate or liberal people do at Fox.

00:43:14.000 So here's part of his speech. I don't think we're watching a debate over how to get to the best

00:43:19.400 outcome. I think that's completely wrong. And I've come to this conclusion, and I should say at the

00:43:25.260 outset, I'm an Episcopalian, so don't take any theological advice from me because I don't have

00:43:28.480 any. I grew up in the shallowest faith tradition that's ever been invented. It's not even a Christian 1.00

00:43:35.760 religion at this point, I say with shame. But I'm just saying this as an observer of what's going

00:43:42.540 on. There is no way to assess, say, the transgenderist movement with that mindset. Policy

00:43:50.400 papers don't account for it at all. If you have people who are saying, I have an idea, let's castrate

00:43:55.420 the next generation. Let's sexually mutilate children. I'm sorry, that's not a political debate. 1.00

00:43:59.280 What? It has nothing to do with politics. What's the outcome we're desiring here? An androgynous 0.99

00:44:05.180 population? Is that really what we are arguing for that? I don't think anyone could defend that

00:44:11.500 as a positive outcome. But the weight of the government and a lot of corporate interests

00:44:17.540 are behind that.

00:44:18.420 Yeah. So you're not allowed to say those things. You're not allowed to call, quote unquote,

00:44:25.760 gender affirmation, the sexual mutilation of children. And yet that's what he does. And that's 0.99

00:44:30.620 what that's what I've always liked about Tucker, is that he goes beyond the political talking points

00:44:36.140 to something that's deeper. I think he sees the moral and the spiritual side of this, even if he

00:44:41.080 himself is not theologically there yet. And I'm just guessing based on what he just said,

00:44:48.820 he is correct about most of the Episcopalian denomination. And I think it's very charming and

00:44:55.540 compelling to hear him say that himself. And I've wondered that. I've wondered actually about his

00:45:00.940 kind of theology and about his Christianity and about his faith and what it looks like now. Tucker,

00:45:07.300 if you don't have an ESV study Bible, we'll send you one. You should go out and get one.

00:45:12.000 And then also you should join your local church. But God has given him a wisdom through at least

00:45:19.740 the gift of common grace. I do think that God has given Tucker Carlson interesting and special insight

00:45:27.840 and wisdom and discernment into things that other people simply don't have. That's not to say that he

00:45:34.380 is infallible or inerrant. I don't even agree with everything that he has said or that he's never

00:45:39.000 made a mistake or that he's never worded things wrongly. I'm not saying that. But it is interesting

00:45:45.140 to see God use an Episcopalian, use a pundit like Tucker Carlson to kind of peel back the layers for a lot

00:45:53.920 of us. And I've spent a lot of time saying, you know, he is going to be bigger and better than before.

00:46:00.660 And I do think ultimately that's true. But I also want to admit like this is a loss. It is a loss.

00:46:08.940 We don't now as social conservatives and I'm more socially conservative than he is for sure,

00:46:16.120 because just some of I'm not sure if we even agree on all of the LGBTQ stuff. You guys know I'm for

00:46:22.320 traditional marriage and traditional marriage only. I'm not sure what he believes about those things,

00:46:27.680 but he was probably the most socially conservative person on mainstream media. And to have someone

00:46:34.360 with that kind of platform in the mainstream whose clips are then circulated and go viral basically on

00:46:41.040 a daily basis, that did something. That did move the needle. That did kind of give a lot of us cover

00:46:48.960 to say things. Oh, Tucker already talked about it. Okay. Now other people feel less scared to talk

00:46:55.960 about it. Tucker asked that question. Now other people feel less scared to ask that question,

00:46:59.880 which is exactly why the left opposed him so much because of that. It was because of the trickle

00:47:04.260 down effect that he had on the rest of us in non-corporate media. It was on the trickle. It was

00:47:08.520 because of the trickle down effect that he had on the everyday person to ask the questions,

00:47:14.900 the forbidden questions, to say the thing that you're not supposed to say.

00:47:18.340 It's not necessarily that Tucker said things that none of us are thinking or that none of us have

00:47:25.980 thought of. It's that he unclothed them on live television to millions and millions of people. He

00:47:34.140 actually just said things that a lot of us have already been thinking. And maybe some of you have

00:47:39.320 been too scared to say. That's really kind of what all of our purpose is in this media space.

00:47:45.300 Um, so it is a loss. There is a cause for celebration somewhat on the left, at least

00:47:52.160 in the interim, before he figures out what he's going to do and gets behind another microphone.

00:47:57.240 And it'll be a while. Believe it or not, it'll take him a little bit to build back up his audience.

00:48:03.300 And some people won't move from Fox. I think a large portion will. Some people won't. So it is a

00:48:09.000 loss. I mean, it is a reason to be sad, especially for that older demographic who watch Fox News for

00:48:15.160 their news, who don't want to mess around with podcasts, who don't know what Rumble is. They

00:48:18.880 don't want to get on YouTube. They're just not a phone generation. There's nothing wrong with that.

00:48:22.340 They want to watch someone like Tucker on the news. I actually think it's really important

00:48:25.900 for the baby boomers to watch Tucker Carlson instead of some other pundits that really have

00:48:31.840 no idea what's going on in the culture wars. And they don't get to do that anymore. So it is a loss.

00:48:36.860 I don't want to just spin this in an exclusively positive way. It's a loss for the conservative

00:48:42.820 movement. It is a loss in the culture wars, at least temporarily. Again, ultimately, I think he

00:48:51.200 is going to be better off. I think he's going to love his life. I was just telling when I was getting

00:48:57.100 my makeup done, I was talking about it. And I was like, man, if I were Tucker Carlson right now,

00:49:03.060 and who knows? I'm sure there's so much stress that goes on in his life right now. But I would be

00:49:11.180 planning a vacation with my spouse and I would just use my millions of dollars. I would take a private

00:49:20.780 jet to a private island and go fish and chill for like a month and not worry about the day-to-day news

00:49:29.020 and just forget about it all. Man, that is absolutely what I would do. I think that we will

00:49:33.960 all miss him and be vying for him to get behind the mic and have influence again. But I think

00:49:39.400 that's what I would do. I mean, I'll talk about this in a second just to close this out. But

00:49:44.580 he apparently, I don't know Tucker personally, by the way. I've been on his show a few times. I was on

00:49:50.980 a show a lot in 2018, 2019. But I don't know him personally at all. But from what I've heard,

00:49:58.980 he has an incredible family that's very close-knit. He has four kids. He's been married to the same

00:50:04.300 woman for a long amount of time, which is not something that a lot of people can say in

00:50:11.580 conservative or not conservative media, just in media who are his critics, is that he seems like

00:50:15.980 an actual, like a great dad and a family man and someone who cares about people. Maybe he'll just

00:50:22.960 take this time to enjoy that and not be bogged down with the day-to-day. Who knows? Who knows?

00:50:28.600 But I have heard like he comes from like a very, very, he has a very stable family life, which I think

00:50:35.140 in the midst of turbulence and trials in your own life, that just keeps you sane. That keeps you

00:50:40.740 grounded. So for many, many reasons, I'm not worried about the future for Tucker Carlson.

00:50:45.980 So I know that Tucker didn't like die or something. And it might seem like what I'm about to read are

00:51:03.600 instances of memorializing him. But as I said, it's a big loss. It's a big change. We're not going to be

00:51:10.500 able to see him every night and rely on that coverage every night. And because so many people

00:51:17.360 are taking this opportunity on the left to vilify him and to gloat as if, again, they could ever dream

00:51:24.280 of being half as successful as Tucker Carlson. A lot of people on the right are telling what I think

00:51:30.560 are very sweet and touching stories about their interactions with Tucker. Megan Basham,

00:51:38.680 she tweeted, she tweeted, I had no profile when Tucker did this to me. And she's responding to

00:51:46.860 a tweet by Matt Walsh that I'll send in a second. But she says he got my cell number from a mutual friend

00:51:52.620 and texted me to let me know he'd read something I'd written and liked it. Wanted to encourage me that

00:51:58.180 my work on the church was important and to keep going. Megan works for the Daily Wire and she

00:52:03.960 reports on a lot of the things that are going on in like Big Eva and progressive Christianity. I'm

00:52:09.600 also very thankful for her work. So Tucker Carlson reached out to her who, you know, compared to

00:52:15.240 Tucker Carlson has a very, very, very small platform. And he took the time to encourage her

00:52:20.420 as someone who is very busy, who has, you know, he can talk to heads of state really anytime that he

00:52:26.080 wants to. He's got politicians in his pocket. It's a very kind thing to do. Matt Walsh said,

00:52:32.020 Tucker sent me a text message out of the blue several years ago just to tell me he appreciates

00:52:36.800 my work. I had a much lower profile back then. I didn't think he even knew who I was. He took the

00:52:42.240 time to track my number down and reach out. Very few people like that in the business. Nate Hockman,

00:52:49.060 he works for Governor DeSantis. Tucker Carlson once called me out of the blue because he had heard

00:52:53.720 through friends that I was going through a rough patch. We had never spoken before,

00:52:57.500 but he took 45 minutes out of his night to offer support slash advice. It remains one of the most

00:53:02.660 surreal experiences in my life. One of the most powerful men in conservative politics took the

00:53:07.620 time to sit down and call some random 23-year-old kid he had never met just to tell him to hang in

00:53:12.700 there and to ask if there was anything he could do to help. It's something I will never forget.

00:53:17.340 And then this is really sweet. This is so sweet. I mean, how many of us can say this about

00:53:21.580 ourselves? How many of Tucker's critics can say this about themselves? Can Anna Navarro say that

00:53:26.640 she's ever done something like this? I don't know. Maybe, probably not. Larry O'Connor is a radio

00:53:35.040 talk show host. He's a frequent guest on Fox. He's a columnist. He said,

00:53:38.440 When I first moved to D.C., Tucker Carlson heard it was my first Thanksgiving away from home. I had

00:53:44.920 just gone through a divorce and my kids were on the other side of the country. He invited me to his

00:53:49.080 home and I enjoyed Thanksgiving with his father, his wife, his children, and his dogs. They treated

00:53:53.860 me like I was part of the family. It turned what would have been a sad and lonely day into one I'll

00:53:59.140 never forget. His family is full of joy and love and laughter. Tucker is the winner today.

00:54:05.300 That's so kind. Again, someone that he maybe knew a little bit but didn't really know. You know,

00:54:11.080 a lot of us, because especially Tucker, like I'm sure he cares a lot about his privacy. I care a lot

00:54:16.720 about our privacy and I'm not even close to the level that Tucker is. And for him to invite someone

00:54:22.220 that he doesn't completely know into his home just because he knows that person is lonely,

00:54:26.880 that's pretty incredible. That says a lot about a person's character. So you can call him whatever

00:54:32.560 names you want. You cannot like him. You cannot like his opinions. I guarantee that he has more

00:54:37.880 character and more compassion than all of the people on the left who are criticizing him,

00:54:42.540 probably combined. Again, for someone to take the time to do this, it says a lot. Like, again,

00:54:48.580 I'm, as someone who has met most of these people and met a lot of conservative politicians,

00:54:55.080 met a lot of people in conservative politics, people who have a much smaller platform than Tucker

00:55:01.900 Carlson behind the scenes are very often not kind. They think that they're far more important than

00:55:08.740 they actually are. They condescend everyone. They treat, they scream at and cuss at people who don't

00:55:15.940 do things exactly like they want them to. People who you might even be like, who even is that? But

00:55:22.180 maybe who has a small platform who think that, you know, they walk on water. There are Republican

00:55:29.000 politicians that are, you know, they seem very kind and charming and whatever. They are, you know,

00:55:36.900 good Christians. And then behind the scenes, they are not nice at all. They think that they are very 0.99

00:55:43.220 important and should be catered to in every way at every moment and would never deign, would never deign

00:55:50.200 to reach out to someone smaller than them and say, hey, you're doing a good job. Hey, I know this is a

00:55:56.620 hard time. You can do it. Hey, I really appreciate your work. That's rare. I'm telling you right now

00:56:03.340 that is rare. Even if it's not through malice, just sheer busyness that, you know, people in media go

00:56:10.960 through every day. They just don't take the time to reach out to people. But Tucker does. And I think

00:56:15.440 that's really, I think that's cool. I think that says a lot about him. It probably speaks to why his

00:56:20.960 family is so cohesive, again, which is just very rare when it comes to when it comes to media.

00:56:39.320 All right. I had a lot more to say about some other things that we were going to talk about

00:56:42.660 today. Biden announced his reelection. Don Lemon, Don Lamont out at CNN. There's not that much to say

00:56:49.460 about that. I don't really care about Don Lamont. I was just sad that I didn't get to hear Tucker

00:56:54.400 last night talk about Don Lamont and talk about his exit. And then also some Biden comments. Oh,

00:57:03.500 gosh, there's so much to talk about. This is what happens when I'm out of town. I have so much to

00:57:07.500 talk about and I can't ever fit into one episode. So we'll sprinkle it throughout the week. Here's the

00:57:13.180 Tucker Carlson interaction that ended up going viral in Manhattan from a few years ago. This guy thought

00:57:18.820 he was going to be like cool trying to secretly approach Tucker Carlson with a video camera and

00:57:23.600 maybe catch him at a bad moment and see that he was really this like mean snarky guy. But here's

00:57:30.480 what happened instead. How are you doing? I didn't know you could fish here. Huh?

00:57:41.720 What's that? What's that? It's called a video camera. I didn't know you could fish here.

00:57:48.160 You can? You can? Yeah. What are you fishing for? Are you videotaping me? Yeah. Why? Because

00:57:54.260 you're in public. I can. Well, I know you can. I'm not challenging your right. I just don't know why you

00:57:59.140 want to. I find it interesting that you're fishing in Central Park. Oh, yeah. It's absolutely

00:58:02.320 allowed. It's allowed in three ponds. It's allowed in the pond. I've never seen anybody fish here

00:58:06.160 before. I videotaped that, which I find interesting and unique about the city of New York. Well,

00:58:10.840 it's a good thing. Yeah, you can. You can go right on the Central Park website and you can

00:58:16.600 fish in the mirror. Yeah. No, I'm not challenging the fact that you can. I'm just curious. I've

00:58:20.780 never seen anybody fishing. It's not very good fishing. I don't know too many people around. What

00:58:23.800 kind of fish are there? There are largemouth bass. In this thing here? Yeah. And what do you use

00:58:30.760 for bait? I'm why fly fish? So I use flies. Do you catch the flies yourself? No, flies or

00:58:37.180 I'll show you. Oh, those are the things you make. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,

00:58:40.920 the string. I'm stupid. I don't fly fish. That's all right. Most people don't. I've been like 1.00

00:58:46.740 deep sea, you know, sea water, you know, deep sea fishing on party boats and such. Friend boats.

00:58:52.700 Oh, okay. See, and you tie them. Yeah, yeah. You tie your own flies? I do, yeah. You do? Where'd

00:59:02.640 you grow up? I grew up in California. Yeah, you did a lot of fly fishing out there? Not really. No?

00:59:09.240 Okay, so there was more to that clip, but I just thought it was funny. I thought it was like a

00:59:13.200 sweet interaction. You could tell that he was like, okay, you know, I'm sure he didn't appreciate

00:59:18.020 someone secretly videotaping him. I wouldn't like that either, but he turned the interaction into

00:59:23.160 something nice. There's been several instances like that over the years. I just appreciate that.

00:59:28.340 So I'm excited for Tucker. I'm excited to see what comes next for him. It'll be so interesting.

00:59:33.560 Yesterday was such an interesting day in conservative media. Gosh. And so people will

00:59:40.460 follow him. He will continue to have an impact and influence, and we'll see exactly what that looks

00:59:45.360 like. Much to the chagrin of AOC, that villainous hand that she thinks is going to take a grip

00:59:53.240 on the building after the credits roll. It's a coming. However, however, maybe she should consider

01:00:01.560 that she is the villain in this tale. All right. That's all we've got for today. We will be back

01:00:07.280 here tomorrow with much, much, much, much more. See you guys then.

01:00:15.360 Bye-bye.

01:00:23.240 Bye.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 25, 2023

Ep 794 ｜ Can Fox Survive Without Tucker？

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