Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 808 ｜ Lauren Daigle Has ＂No Idea” About Abortion Law. Is That Ok？

00:00:00.000 Christian singer Lauren Daigle blames ignorance for her silence on abortion.

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00:00:30.000 Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:36.960 Happy Thursday.

00:00:38.380 We were just saying before the cameras and the mic turned on that we can't believe that

00:00:43.000 it's already May 18th.

00:00:44.240 Is that not crazy to you?

00:00:46.080 May is crazy.

00:00:47.520 May is like the Christmas season of spring.

00:00:50.780 There's so much going on, especially for those of you who have kids that are already in grade

00:00:56.220 school.

00:00:56.580 There are so many things to do at the end of the year, which is not the case for my

00:01:00.100 family.

00:01:00.540 But still, it's just gone by so quickly.

00:01:03.300 And every week I take off or I change the little number on the countdown until the baby

00:01:07.900 comes.

00:01:08.340 And I'm like, oh, my goodness, this pregnancy has just absolutely flown by.

00:01:12.600 For those of you who are on like your first pregnancy, just know that every subsequent

00:01:16.860 pregnancy goes by more and more quickly because you're busier.

00:01:20.740 There's goods and there's bads to that.

00:01:22.400 I'm excited about that.

00:01:23.880 I mean, no one really likes waiting when you're anticipating something so exciting.

00:01:27.880 But also, I feel totally unprepared.

00:01:31.600 I mean, you would think I'm prepared because I've given, you know, or I've had two babies

00:01:35.260 before.

00:01:35.680 But, you know, I've talked about before, neither of my births were the easiest things in the

00:01:42.040 world.

00:01:42.380 They were pretty traumatic, actually.

00:01:44.020 And so I really wanted to prepare for this birth.

00:01:47.820 And I really haven't done very much at all.

00:01:50.700 I haven't done very much at all.

00:01:51.920 So I've done a few things, but I'm telling myself I'm going to get in the right mindset

00:01:56.720 in the coming months as the summer comes.

00:01:59.780 It's going to be a hot few months.

00:02:01.860 I don't really recommend being in your last trimester for the hottest months of the year.

00:02:09.080 But alas, that is how God ordained it for the Stuckey family.

00:02:13.780 And it'll be great.

00:02:14.500 I'll just, I don't know, maybe I'll be able to find a pool to float in or something like

00:02:17.680 that, and it'll ease my pain and my sweat.

00:02:21.820 Another random thing that I wanted to say before we get into today's stories.

00:02:25.560 So last night, I had the most random dream ever.

00:02:28.820 And if you just want to interpret this dream for me, I would love for you to.

00:02:32.000 I haven't done this in a long time.

00:02:33.160 We used to do these segments where you guys would tell me a weird dream that you had.

00:02:37.100 You would send a voicemail, something we also haven't done in a while.

00:02:40.120 Um, or I would tell you my dream and you would interpret it.

00:02:43.880 Can someone please tell me why someone who I have literally never thought about in my

00:02:49.340 life and probably haven't even seen a news story about in months was in my dream,

00:02:54.300 babysitting my children.

00:02:56.140 And that is Pete Davidson.

00:02:58.160 Why was Pete Davidson like totally casual?

00:03:01.640 I knew in my dream who he was.

00:03:03.380 I had to go somewhere and he was babysitting just one of my kids, which seems like terrible

00:03:09.380 choice of babysitters.

00:03:11.480 I mean, maybe he would be fine, but just very, very strange.

00:03:15.200 But he walked in his Pete Davidson self.

00:03:18.100 And, you know, I think I was told him how much I was going to pay him.

00:03:21.620 And it was I was telling him, you know, all these different things that he needs to make

00:03:25.960 sure of.

00:03:26.360 And he was actually like a very adept babysitter, very good with kids in my dream.

00:03:30.940 And I just laughed.

00:03:32.000 And I was like, yep, this is just a normal part of my life.

00:03:35.280 Pete Davidson comes over some evenings and he babysits our kids.

00:03:39.580 I would love for someone to tell me why in the world, why in the world, let me tell you

00:03:43.960 about another dream I have, because this one actually is ripe for interpretation.

00:03:47.100 This has nothing to do with Pete Davidson.

00:03:49.220 None of my dreams ever have anything to do with Pete Davidson, except for last night.

00:03:52.840 So I have this dream.

00:03:54.060 And last night I, this is inception, y'all.

00:03:56.340 I had a dream like about this dream.

00:03:59.660 I was telling someone else that I have this recurring dream in my dream last night.

00:04:04.040 And my recurring dream is that I am enrolled in classes.

00:04:08.680 Like it's, it usually looks like my high school, but I think in my, my mind and my dream, it

00:04:13.840 is college.

00:04:15.840 And I realized like halfway through the semester that I've been enrolled for this in this math

00:04:22.600 class that I just never went to because I didn't want to go to.

00:04:26.460 But I realized at the end of the semester, oh my gosh, I'm just going to fail and I'm

00:04:30.840 not going to be able to graduate.

00:04:32.740 I have that dream all the time.

00:04:35.000 And I have so much anxiety in the dream of like, oh my gosh, why didn't I go to this class

00:04:39.100 that I think that they were just going to give me an A?

00:04:41.640 I don't know.

00:04:43.140 There's definitely some meaning behind that.

00:04:45.640 If Brie were on the mic, I would make her give me her interpretation.

00:04:48.980 Maybe she can give me her interpretation.

00:04:51.380 Brie says that she has that dream too.

00:04:52.820 My husband has, or he used to have that dream.

00:04:55.060 He doesn't have that dream anymore, but he used to have the dream like right after we

00:04:58.640 graduated from college that he didn't complete all his required classes in order to graduate

00:05:04.340 and that he never actually got his diploma.

00:05:06.680 I don't think mine is actually attached to school because I don't care about that.

00:05:10.840 It must be something else that I'm just afraid.

00:05:13.440 Maybe it's birth.

00:05:14.540 I'm afraid that I'm going to be unprepared for that.

00:05:16.980 And at the last minute, I'm like, oh my gosh, I didn't prep for it.

00:05:20.200 But maybe it's something even deeper than that.

00:05:21.840 Let me know your thoughts.

00:05:23.080 Let me know your thoughts.

00:05:24.240 All right.

00:05:24.660 We're going to talk about a few things today.

00:05:26.400 We're going to talk about Christian celebrities or celebrities who call themselves Christians

00:05:30.420 and some comments that they've made.

00:05:32.440 Lauren Daigle, Chris Pratt.

00:05:33.740 If we have time, we're also going to get into Biden's white supremacy comments.

00:05:37.480 Finally, I've been wanting to talk about that and react to that.

00:05:40.700 And then also attached to that, this crazy story where a BLM activist falsely accused this

00:05:47.000 white college student of saying something hateful or committing a hate crime.

00:05:51.680 And it's all for clicks.

00:05:53.380 It's all because that's where the power lies.

00:05:55.500 So if we don't have time to talk about those things today, we will talk about them next week

00:06:00.040 because they are important.

00:06:01.260 Lauren, Lauren, Lauren, Lauren.

00:06:15.580 So Lauren Daigle, 31 years old. 0.96

00:06:19.660 We're the same age.

00:06:21.240 That's cool.

00:06:22.160 A two-time winning Grammy artist.

00:06:24.220 She is a contemporary Christian artist.

00:06:30.040 She sings a lot of those songs that are, they could be applied to a romantic relationship,

00:06:35.160 but they're really about God.

00:06:36.240 They're really good.

00:06:36.920 Like she's extremely talented.

00:06:39.040 Not only does she have a good voice, she has a very unique persona.

00:06:42.340 I think a magnanimous persona, extremely likable, seems like a really fun hang.

00:06:49.660 And she's been on the Ellen show.

00:06:51.760 She's had a lot of mainstream success because she truly is so talented.

00:06:55.420 She sells out her shows.

00:06:57.560 And I think people of all different kind of faith backgrounds like her.

00:07:00.660 And there are a lot of goods to that, okay?

00:07:02.620 The message that she's conveying in a lot of her songs are, they're really good.

00:07:09.020 And they're the kind of messages that you want to be received, especially by an unbeliever. 0.99

00:07:14.540 But I do think with mainstream popularity comes a particular kind of pressure to conform. 0.89

00:07:21.260 Or to at least play dumb when it comes to controversial issues like, for example, LGBTQ or like abortion. 0.94

00:07:31.340 And she recently made some comments about abortion. 0.97

00:07:34.100 Or she refused to make some comments about abortion that is now getting people, that are now getting people talking.

00:07:40.240 But let me back up a little bit because this is not the first time people have taken issue with things that she said.

00:07:45.380 I actually made a video in response to her comments about homosexuality in 2018.

00:07:52.740 She was in an interview at the Dominic Nadee show in 2018.

00:07:59.320 And that's on iHeartRadio.

00:08:02.080 And the host asked, Daigle, do you feel that homosexuality is a sin?

00:08:07.060 And she said, I can't honestly answer on that.

00:08:08.880 In a sense, I have too many people that I love that they are homosexual. 1.00

00:08:12.380 Homosexual, I don't know.

00:08:13.880 I actually had a conversation with someone last night about it.

00:08:15.760 I can't say one way or another, I'm not God.

00:08:19.080 Which is an absolutely terrible response as a Christian.

00:08:22.400 It's an absolutely terrible response.

00:08:23.840 But it's also very normal.

00:08:26.000 Not even just for the celebrity Christian that is trying to please everyone in and outside of the Christian faith.

00:08:31.860 But also just, I think for Christians in general who think that they need to take God off the hook.

00:08:37.160 That God is just too harsh.

00:08:38.500 Like the Bible is just a little bit too mean.

00:08:40.660 It's too clear.

00:08:41.580 It's too truthful.

00:08:42.320 So we need to soften what the Word of God says. 0.99

00:08:44.780 Either by playing dumb. 0.94

00:08:47.040 Refusing to look to what the Word of God says about something. 0.99

00:08:50.920 Because we don't want to know.

00:08:52.680 Because then we'll feel responsible to actually carry that truth into the public sphere.

00:08:56.320 And that's a scary thing, knowing the pushback that you're going to get.

00:09:00.060 Or we just kind of skirt around it.

00:09:02.240 We soften it.

00:09:03.240 We caveat it.

00:09:04.060 We nuance it to the point where we're not even really saying what God said anymore.

00:09:08.480 Because we think that God is not as compassionate as us.

00:09:12.100 We think that He's not as empathetic.

00:09:13.760 He's not as loving.

00:09:14.580 He's not as kind.

00:09:15.460 He's not nice enough for us or for the world.

00:09:18.520 And so when we are asked this kind of question about something that the Bible is absolutely

00:09:25.940 clear on, we kind of backpedal.

00:09:29.380 Or we kind of just cover up what it actually says.

00:09:33.680 Because we don't want to be too mean.

00:09:36.420 But what do we always say on this podcast is that you can't outlove God.

00:09:40.420 1 John 4 says God is love.

00:09:42.380 That same God that is love also made us male and female, created marriage.

00:09:48.400 In the first chapter of the first book of the Bible, we use this alliteration a lot.

00:09:53.520 The reality of male and female, the definition of marriage is between one man and one woman, 0.79

00:09:59.420 is rooted in creation.

00:10:00.980 We see that in Genesis 1.

00:10:02.320 It's reiterated throughout Scripture.

00:10:04.500 We see that, for example, in the command to honor your father and mother.

00:10:09.160 It is repeated by Jesus himself, Matthew 19, 4 through 5.

00:10:14.300 It is representative of Christ in the church.

00:10:17.240 We see that metaphor or representation in Ephesians 5.

00:10:21.440 And therefore, it is reflective of the gospel.

00:10:24.040 The Bible starts with the marriage.

00:10:25.620 It ends with the marriage.

00:10:26.700 The definition of marriage is between man and woman.

00:10:29.240 It's not arbitrary.

00:10:30.640 It wasn't a historical, cultural artifact that we can just move on past.

00:10:37.220 It is actually a core principle of Christianity because we are told it has spiritual and eternal

00:10:43.600 significance.

00:10:45.240 That definition of male and female, that biological definition of male and female, and the joining

00:10:50.260 together of male and female in marriage is absolutely essential to Christian theology.

00:10:55.600 And once you give way on that, you start to give way on other issues too, because you're

00:11:00.000 basically saying that you don't only, you don't believe in the creation account, like you

00:11:04.280 don't believe in Genesis 1.

00:11:05.660 You also don't believe Jesus in Matthew 19, 4 through 5.

00:11:08.580 You don't believe in Ephesians 5.

00:11:11.440 You don't believe there's any significance in the Bible starting with a marriage and ending

00:11:15.340 with a marriage between Christ and the church.

00:11:17.500 You're actually saying that Christ being the bridegroom and the church, the bride, that that's 0.63

00:11:22.660 just a totally meaningless metaphor or reality that we see depicted in Scripture.

00:11:28.980 So you can see how once you start compromising on gender and marriage, you really start falling

00:11:33.800 apart theologically.

00:11:35.860 I don't know if that's what's happened really behind the scenes with Lauren Daigle, but there's

00:11:39.480 really no excuse for someone who is a Christian and claims to be a strong enough Christian to 1.00

00:11:44.300 be able to sing publicly and speak publicly about Christianity to the world, to not know the answer 0.51

00:11:51.660 to something so basic and so fundamental.

00:11:56.340 And now she is talking about abortion using kind of the same strategy.

00:12:01.580 So in an interview with The Guardian, she responds to a question that the reporter had specifically

00:12:10.160 on abortion.

00:12:12.160 She's from Louisiana. 0.99

00:12:13.440 So the reporter asks, what do you think about the near total ban on abortion that went into

00:12:18.340 effect in Louisiana last year?

00:12:20.500 She says, I don't know.

00:12:21.900 I'm terrible.

00:12:23.120 I know that we have a Democrat governor, but I don't know what our abortion laws are in 0.99

00:12:26.920 Louisiana.

00:12:28.000 The reporter says there can't be many 30 something women who can afford to remain similarly 1.00

00:12:32.480 uninformed.

00:12:34.380 Now, I actually believe that Lauren Daigle doesn't know anything about the Louisiana law. 1.00

00:12:40.640 I actually believe that.

00:12:42.180 She has kind of had a history of straddling the line. 1.00

00:12:46.040 She apparently attends a church that's both Democrats and Republicans, and she has even

00:12:52.820 talked about before in light of the Trump presidency, how her views on politics and the

00:12:57.380 need to speak up have kind of changed.

00:12:58.960 But she's really tried to straddle the line. 1.00

00:13:01.360 She's really tried to not get too political. 0.95

00:13:03.100 And she either feigns ignorance or she really is ignorant about these political issues, not 0.97

00:13:08.160 even political issues. 0.88

00:13:09.000 They're really theological issues that have become political, like marriage and abortion.

00:13:12.580 And she backs away from them.

00:13:15.040 And, you know, my initial reaction actually on Twitter when I saw that she said this was,

00:13:19.900 you know what, we just need to normalize celebrities saying that they don't know about something

00:13:26.000 when they really don't know.

00:13:27.580 Don't pretend like you're an expert on something if you're not.

00:13:30.300 And I will give her kudos for that.

00:13:32.600 I appreciate that she didn't spout some nonsense about reproductive rights and about empathy for

00:13:39.920 women and reproductive justice and things like that, because she could have done that. 1.00

00:13:44.220 She could have made this a social justice issue. 1.00

00:13:46.980 She could have even said something about being pro all life or holistically pro life.

00:13:51.660 Or she could have said, you know, I don't think that the law can really change hearts.

00:13:55.840 We need to protect all life and make sure that we're serving moms.

00:13:58.960 I would have been really annoyed.

00:14:00.940 I would have been more annoyed by an answer like that, because I would understand that underneath

00:14:06.220 an answer like that really is ignorance, but she's acting like she knows something about

00:14:11.480 it and she's just spouting talking points that she's heard before.

00:14:14.140 So I actually prefer her response here, that she has no idea what the Louisiana law is and

00:14:20.300 so she cannot comment on it.

00:14:22.600 I do appreciate that.

00:14:23.860 However, I heard some of the pushback that you guys gave me on Twitter saying, look, there's

00:14:28.420 no excuse for a Christian not to have an answer. 1.00

00:14:30.920 There's no excuse for that.

00:14:32.040 There's no excuse for a Christian not to be able to say that life inside the womb matters 1.00

00:14:37.240 and that we should be doing everything that we can to protect a child from being murdered.

00:14:42.000 That's again, not primarily a political or culture war issue for a Christian.

00:14:45.840 That's primarily a theological issue.

00:14:47.520 That's very fundamental.

00:14:48.420 Again, goes back to the first chapter of the Bible that we are all made in God's image.

00:14:53.720 And so I hear you on that.

00:14:55.140 I heard that pushback and I agree with it. 1.00

00:14:57.800 I still think that what she said, just saying, I don't know, I have no idea, is better than

00:15:03.660 her repeating some kind of social justice, left-wing, progressive, nuanced take on like

00:15:10.940 why abortion should be legal, which I think a lot of people in her position just do by default.

00:15:17.440 But you're right.

00:15:18.920 She should have been able to have an answer for something that is so incredibly basic because

00:15:26.420 I think that this kind of makes an excuse for a lot of Christians to not be thoughtful about

00:15:32.840 these things and to not have an answer for them and to even think, you know what, it's

00:15:37.500 okay for me to remain ignorant about something like abortion.

00:15:40.800 It's okay. 0.87

00:15:41.820 It's actually a form of humility for me to say, I don't know if homosexuality is a sin.

00:15:46.860 And that's wrong.

00:15:47.900 Like that's dangerous territory that you're walking into. 0.99

00:15:51.140 That's so like, one, that's not the responsibility of a Christian just to be ignorant. 0.99

00:15:56.240 And at this point, you're choosing to be ignorant about abortion, right? 0.99

00:15:59.220 Like if you're ignorant about what an abortion is, if you're ignorant about what the Bible 0.98

00:16:03.300 has to say about homosexuality and marriage, and you've called yourself a Christian for a 0.96

00:16:07.280 long time, like you're choosing that.

00:16:08.960 That's a choice.

00:16:09.640 At some point that actually becomes a sin.

00:16:11.600 It's not just a mistake or a lack of sanctification.

00:16:16.400 Like you are choosing not to go there either publicly or even privately, because you know

00:16:21.700 that it is going to be very difficult to have to carry that truth with you and give a controversial

00:16:27.220 answer when you are asked these tough questions.

00:16:30.060 That's actually a sin because you're living in light of your fear of man rather than your

00:16:37.120 fear of God.

00:16:38.200 The truth is, we should always have an answer about what the Bible says about homosexuality. 0.84

00:16:43.860 We should always have an answer about what the Bible says, what God says about gender.

00:16:48.300 We should always have an answer about what the Bible has to say about things like abortion.

00:16:53.420 It doesn't mean you have to be mean.

00:16:54.940 You don't have to be harsh.

00:16:56.780 You can try to be as kind as possible, but that doesn't mean that you should compromise

00:17:03.140 on clarity.

00:17:04.960 I don't want someone who is looked up to as much as Lauren Daigle to give other Christian

00:17:10.200 women an excuse for ignorance or an excuse for apathy. 1.00

00:17:14.300 That's another thing.

00:17:15.240 I think sometimes this kind of apathy and this kind of fake humility is seen as seen as some

00:17:20.940 kind of form of godliness.

00:17:22.760 It's not godly to not care about the slaughter of babies in the womb.

00:17:27.200 So what do we say?

00:17:29.260 We say that politics matters because, or politics matter because policies matter, because people

00:17:35.200 matter.

00:17:36.240 Politics affects policy, policy affects people, and people matter.

00:17:40.320 There's no greater example than that, than abortion.

00:17:45.940 And so there's really not an excuse for Lauren Daigle at this point.

00:17:49.200 I don't think that she needs to wade into every political issue.

00:17:52.220 I really don't.

00:17:53.240 I don't think that she needs to weigh in whenever there's a news story about something controversial

00:17:58.340 or something so-called social justice related.

00:18:01.280 I don't want these people to pretend like they're political experts when they're clearly

00:18:04.920 not.

00:18:05.720 But again, when it comes to these clearly biblical issues, when the Bible is so clear, thou shalt

00:18:11.380 not murder, the Bible is so clear, God made us male and female, like we should be able

00:18:18.380 to easily stand on God's word without caveat, without apology, without nuance.

00:18:25.020 There's actually so much privilege in that, that in this culture of chaos and confusion

00:18:31.100 and cowardice, through the clarity of God's word, through the trustworthiness of God's

00:18:37.380 word, we get to be vessels of clarity and of courage.

00:18:43.880 I mean, that's a beautiful privilege that we have, that we don't have to look to the

00:18:48.860 changing definitions in the culture to tell us what is and what isn't, what's right and

00:18:53.060 what's wrong, what's good and what's bad, what's true and what's false, what's male 0.64

00:18:55.820 and what's female. 1.00

00:18:56.400 We have it all in the text.

00:18:58.700 We have it all in God's word.

00:19:00.760 So let's rely on that. 0.96

00:19:02.160 Let's not pretend like we're dumb on these things or truly be dumb on these things because 0.97

00:19:07.420 at this point, again, there's no excuse. 0.94

00:19:09.800 And I think this kind of ignorance slash apathy, which as I said, is sinful, has landed us exactly

00:19:18.360 where we are as a country.

00:19:19.720 If Christians had always been clear, had always been strong, I just don't know if we would 1.00

00:19:23.900 be in the insane place that we are right now.

00:19:27.480 But because in the name of fake, toxic, superficial empathy, Christians have acted like the so-called 1.00

00:19:35.200 culture wars are beneath them, we're in a whole lot of trouble and kids are at risk.

00:19:41.760 Most importantly, babies in the womb are at risk.

00:19:45.220 So what we say in these kind of interviews matters.

00:19:47.700 Doesn't mean that we have to be perfect, but we do need to be prepared.

00:19:50.680 All right, Chris Pratt, he recently said in an interview at a Cinema Society screening of

00:20:13.860 his upcoming movie, Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 3, this is another thing like Marvel

00:20:18.700 or whatever, the Avengers, that I, what I'm trying to say is I don't know.

00:20:25.060 I don't know the difference between any of these superhero movies.

00:20:28.320 I'm sorry, Chris Pratt.

00:20:29.860 I tend to like you a lot.

00:20:32.360 Loved you in Parks and Rec.

00:20:35.400 And I'm a fan of your work, but I don't know what Guardians of the Galaxy is.

00:20:38.960 But I think it's very popular.

00:20:40.300 So he was interviewing about this at the, you know, the screening of this movie, and

00:20:45.700 here's what he had to say.

00:20:47.480 I admire you so much for being open about your faith.

00:20:50.780 Oh, thank you.

00:20:51.500 Do you feel like, I feel like you sometimes get s*** for that.

00:20:54.420 Do you feel like that's a hard thing?

00:20:56.000 Oh, yeah, I sure do.

00:20:57.460 But that's nothing new.

00:20:58.540 That's nothing new, you know?

00:21:00.380 If I was of this world, they would love me just like that.

00:21:02.480 But as it is, I'm chosen out of this world.

00:21:04.440 That's John 15, 18 through 20.

00:21:07.380 It's the way it is.

00:21:08.180 It ain't nothing new.

00:21:08.720 2,000 years ago, they hated him, too.

00:21:10.300 I love that.

00:21:13.720 I love that.

00:21:14.660 I love that he cited scripture.

00:21:16.900 Also, he's right.

00:21:17.800 It's not always easy to cite references on the fly.

00:21:22.920 I am not good at that.

00:21:24.480 I am good at calling to mind the verse, but calling to mind the actual chapter in verse,

00:21:31.400 that is difficult.

00:21:32.940 And yet he did it.

00:21:33.660 He did it in an interview, and I really appreciate that.

00:21:35.980 So I just want to read the verse that he's referring to.

00:21:38.400 And he is talking about John 15.

00:21:41.000 And let's just allow this to encourage us, too.

00:21:44.960 So let me read you from John 15, starting in verse 18.

00:21:50.820 If the world hates you, know that it has hated me, Jesus says, before it hated you.

00:21:55.880 If you are of the world, the world would love you as its own.

00:22:00.040 But because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

00:22:06.240 And then Jesus goes on to continue to encourage, basically, just promising persecution, that there is hardship, there is tribulation, there are trials that are inherent in the Christian life.

00:22:21.700 They're actually guaranteed.

00:22:23.720 In this world, you will have trouble, but take heart, for I have overcome the world.

00:22:29.680 That's why the prosperity gospel that we see from several teachers, like Joel Osteen, basically saying that actually inherent in the Christian life is some kind of guarantee of a promotion, guarantee of greater success, guarantee of health, wealth in this life.

00:22:43.440 It's so wrong.

00:22:44.640 It's so incredibly misguided because we never see that in the gospels.

00:22:48.920 That's not the message that Jesus conveys at all.

00:22:51.180 That's not what we see in the epistles.

00:22:52.700 That's not what we see in the Old Testament.

00:22:54.160 That's not what we see in Revelation.

00:22:55.840 That's not to say we might not have wonderful blessings in this life.

00:22:59.360 I mean, God is so incredibly gracious that he does very often give us wonderful things.

00:23:04.220 Sometimes he does increase someone's estate.

00:23:06.360 He does allow you to have a promotion.

00:23:08.320 He does give you more influence.

00:23:09.780 He does allow you to get married and have children and take part in all of these wonderful gifts of grace.

00:23:16.300 But he doesn't have to do those things.

00:23:18.340 If God never gave you any good thing here in this life, like if he never gave you anything that your heart desires as far as material wealth and influence and relationships and things like that, he would be just as good and just as gracious and just as generous because he sent his only son to die for us.

00:23:38.840 Because that is enough, like that is the good news of the Christian life. 0.99

00:23:43.160 That is what we have hope in.

00:23:45.260 That is what gives us our joy that, wow, we get to one day escape all this and we get to spend eternity with God.

00:23:53.000 And wow, I have forgiveness of my sins.

00:23:55.860 He really does forgive me of my sins.

00:23:58.420 And he paid the debt that I owe.

00:24:00.340 That's what gives us joy.

00:24:01.440 That's what makes us happy.

00:24:02.540 That's the joy of the Lord that is our strength, not that we might become famous or rich or whatever it is.

00:24:08.560 So that's why I think the prosperity gospel is so damaging because it actually detracts from the joy of the gospel and it tries to put your joy and your hope and your expectation and all of these other things which are here today and are gone tomorrow.

00:24:22.060 And so I actually love that Chris Pratt referenced this and he has been.

00:24:26.200 I mean, obviously he's very successful.

00:24:28.060 And so it's not like he has been excluded from Hollywood because of his faith yet.

00:24:32.900 But, I mean, he has received his fair share of criticism.

00:24:36.240 He has, you know, been called a homophobe or whatever because apparently the church that he attended at one point believed in traditional marriage.

00:24:43.520 Now, I don't know that he's ever put out any kind of strong stance on that.

00:24:47.480 I would be very surprised if he did.

00:24:50.960 But I do appreciate this interaction here.

00:24:54.840 That's the way it is.

00:24:55.780 Nothing new.

00:24:56.460 2,000 years ago, they hated him too.

00:24:59.220 And, of course, I couldn't say, Chris Pratt couldn't say, that the whole world hates us in the same way that they hated Jesus.

00:25:06.760 I'm very thankful for the platform that I had.

00:25:09.720 I'm sure he's very thankful for the success that he has attained.

00:25:12.560 But in the sense that there is pushback, certainly, against the faith, especially in Hollywood, that's absolutely true. 1.00

00:25:18.660 And I don't even believe in, like, diminishing that as by saying, well, he's rich, he's successful, and so he's never really endured any kind of persecution.

00:25:30.220 I don't think that that's fair either.

00:25:32.280 I think that we can say that someone has received some form of persecution, even if they're not being martyred in China or in the Middle East.

00:25:40.360 I do think that there is a spectrum, and I've heard John Piper talk about this before, that whether it's slander or whether it's just criticism, whether it's martyrdom, torture, losing your job.

00:25:54.300 Like, wherever it is on the spectrum of persecution, it is counting towards something, that it still matters.

00:26:06.360 And Romans 8.18 says,

00:26:08.400 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

00:26:17.280 And I think that that includes any and all forms of true suffering and true persecution.

00:26:23.720 So I hope that he continues to stand firm.

00:26:26.320 Look, the heat is going to get even hotter.

00:26:28.920 I mean, I just hope and pray that when he is tested, like, when he is pressed on, what do you think about marriage?

00:26:37.100 What do you think about gender?

00:26:38.820 What do you think about abortion?

00:26:40.240 That he would just say, you know, the Word of God is good enough.

00:26:43.040 And if I lose my money, if I lose my career, if I lose my accolades, if I lose my reputation, it is worth saying what is true.

00:26:52.740 Like, I wish that those weren't, like, they're not the only litmus tests, but they are a part, I think, of the litmus tests these days.

00:27:02.400 Like, they are.

00:27:04.180 They just are.

00:27:04.940 And I'm not saying that they're just as important as acknowledging John 14.6, that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.

00:27:10.900 But they're all part of that because, like, these are the most controversial topics of today.

00:27:14.900 So if you're not willing to stand on them, it does tell us, like, how you actually feel about God and how you actually feel about the trustworthiness and the truth of his Word and who you fear.

00:27:25.860 So he's talked about how Jesus helps him struggle and deal with the haters.

00:27:33.200 And if you look, I saw someone that posted, like, these screenshots of people just absolutely hating on Chris Pratt over and over again for saying anything about Christianity.

00:27:45.040 I won't even read you, but you can, I mean, you can see we'll put some of them up on the screen if you're watching on YouTube.

00:27:50.500 And people really do just hate Chris Pratt.

00:27:53.580 They also were mad at him because on Mother's Day, he did this tribute to his current wife, Catherine Schwarzenegger, and his mother-in-law, and I think his own mother, but did not publicly think Anna Faris, who is the mother of his first child, his son.

00:28:10.800 And, you know, I kind of understand that.

00:28:13.880 I mean, it is difficult when it comes to those things because we don't know what goes on behind the scenes.

00:28:18.900 Like, I have no idea what kind of mother Anna Faris is.

00:28:21.500 I don't, we don't know the truth about their lives.

00:28:24.140 I think, of course, part of us is like, yeah, you probably should have said something about the wife of your first child, even if you don't have the greatest relationship, even if the marriage ended up tragically ending.

00:28:35.780 But people are also just trying to find an opportunity to pick holes in the things that he says anyway.

00:28:43.800 My hope is that he stands firm.

00:28:46.060 My hope is that the Lord keeps him, continues to sanctify him, draws not just him, but his entire family to himself, to God, and that they just continue to stand firm.

00:29:02.320 All right, let's talk about this Biden white supremacy clip. 0.95

00:29:19.100 I wanted to be able to get to this because it's so absolutely ridiculous. 0.99

00:29:23.820 It is so ridiculous. 0.94

00:29:26.120 All right, let's roll the tape. 1.00

00:29:27.900 To stand up against the poison of white supremacy, as I did my inaugural address to a single out as the most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland is white supremacy. 0.98

00:29:39.000 And I'm not saying this because I'm at a black HBCU. 0.97

00:29:47.620 I say wherever I go.

00:29:50.740 Wherever he goes.

00:29:52.920 Dairy queen.

00:29:54.740 Home.

00:29:55.680 Hey.

00:29:59.000 And people are like, sir, this is a dairy queen.

00:30:05.960 Are you OK?

00:30:06.760 Um, so I don't know if you even understood anything that he just said at the beginning there.

00:30:12.400 I didn't.

00:30:14.080 He looks very, very old.

00:30:15.540 And I genuinely find that sad.

00:30:18.800 Um, but he is obviously saying this because he is at a historically black college.

00:30:24.460 He is giving a commencement address at Howard University last weekend.

00:30:28.860 And he said, stand up against the poison. 0.91

00:30:32.040 White supremacy is the single most dangerous threat to our homeland. 0.99

00:30:35.560 And I'm not just saying this because I'm at a black HBCU. 0.99

00:30:38.500 I say this wherever I go.

00:30:41.320 With your voices and votes, I was able to fulfill my commitment to put the first black woman on the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

00:30:47.780 And by the way, she is brighter than the rest.

00:30:49.620 She is one bright woman.

00:30:51.740 You hear that, Sotomayor?

00:30:53.180 Sorry.

00:30:54.060 Sorry, little Latina. 1.00

00:30:56.520 We've got Ketanji Brown Jackson.

00:30:58.020 She's brighter than you.

00:30:59.540 Because of you.

00:31:00.320 You turned up.

00:31:01.460 You showed up when the votes counted.

00:31:03.020 Yes, about 90 percent of black Americans do vote Democrat.

00:31:06.340 Hasn't really changed.

00:31:07.460 Maybe that's waned a little bit in recent years.

00:31:09.340 But that's that's how it is.

00:31:12.120 They they typically vote Democrat.

00:31:14.360 Now, is Biden correct that white supremacy is the greatest threat to our nation?

00:31:19.460 Not even close.

00:31:20.700 It doesn't even make the top 50 threats to our nation.

00:31:25.880 That's not to say that there aren't people out there who consider themselves white supremacists.

00:31:30.040 I actually just had a psychologist on who talked about the rabbit hole that is on the Internet that leads these these young men who are lonely, who are purposeless, who are involuntarily celibate in many cases.

00:31:44.360 Into these kinds of forums that foment all kinds of hate against women, against Jewish people, against anyone who is not white.

00:31:55.160 So I'm not saying that there aren't people here, even inherently violent people here, who consider themselves ideologically white supremacist.

00:32:04.460 But in comparison to the other threats that we have, the other violent threats that we have in our country, is white supremacy even close to the top issue, the top threat that we have?

00:32:18.500 No, it's not even close.

00:32:19.660 If you just look at the numbers, based on the crime statistics that we've got from the Bureau of Justice statistics, it is far more likely for a white person to be killed by a black person than the other way around. 0.96

00:32:29.920 And unfortunately, black men commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes and specifically murders in this country, like 60 percent of all violent crime committed by black Americans, even though they only make up 13 percent of the population. 0.98

00:32:47.980 And really, it's less than that because it's about 6 percent because it's typically black men who are committing these violent crimes. 0.98

00:32:54.860 I think about 40 percent of all murders are committed by this 6 percent of the population. 0.88

00:33:00.940 Now, most of this is intraracial violence, which, by the way, it's so funny when people say it was intraracial violence. 1.00

00:33:07.080 It's black people killing black people. 1.00

00:33:08.780 Does that mean that we shouldn't care about it? 1.00

00:33:10.360 Does that mean that it doesn't count?

00:33:11.660 Does that mean that those that that threat of violence doesn't matter?

00:33:15.000 Because that's really revealing, I think, when people use that as a point to just, well, let's dismiss this as an issue. 0.77

00:33:20.640 I happen to care that also black men, black people make up a disproportionate number of murder victims, of violent crime victims in this country.

00:33:30.140 Like, shouldn't we care about that?

00:33:31.580 But even if you're looking at interracial violence, so you're looking between a black person and a white person, a black person, an Asian person, whatever it is, that's still wildly disproportionate.

00:33:41.080 It should not be that a small percentage of the population accounts for such a large number of murders against people in other races as well.

00:33:49.260 Yes, it's most likely for a white person to kill a white person. 0.89

00:33:52.040 It's most likely for a black person to kill a black person, a Hispanic person to kill a Hispanic person. 0.98

00:33:56.780 But actually, when it comes to Asians, it is most likely for a black person to kill an Asian person than for an Asian person to kill an Asian person. 0.97

00:34:04.200 Again, Bureau of Justice Statistics, FBI crime data. 0.87

00:34:07.360 And again, it is far more likely for a white person to be killed by a black person than vice versa. 0.83

00:34:14.560 And actually, there have been several stories recently of this is so tragic, but black men, typically black young men, killing a white person because they wanted to kill a white person. 0.95

00:34:26.500 There was this horrible story in New Orleans. 0.94

00:34:29.760 There was this 65-year-old homeowner.

00:34:31.660 He was outside someone's house, and he was fixing their mailbox.

00:34:37.420 And then two young men who happened to be black, their names were Taj Matthews and Maurice Holmes, 23 and 25-year-old.

00:34:50.320 They just drove up to this guy who was outside a home fixing this mailbox and shot him through the chest, and he died. 0.96

00:34:57.540 And when they asked, why did you do this, Matthews said they just wanted to kill a white person. 0.84

00:35:07.000 This is not all that uncommon, actually.

00:35:11.820 If you're not on Twitter, it's kind of difficult to find these stories, and if you don't follow the right people who are actually reporting on these.

00:35:19.100 But you see, these kind of stories are typically reported as local crime stories, stories that have no national value, that we shouldn't talk about, that shouldn't count towards terrorism, they shouldn't count as hate crimes, but rather should just be kind of pushed to the side as something that could be taken care of on the state or local level.

00:35:40.920 Of course, if the races were reversed, this would be an entire news cycle for probably weeks, especially going into the summer.

00:35:50.200 That's typically when riots and protests happen.

00:35:53.060 And then you would see all of the evangelicals for Biden talking about how racist and horrible this country is. 0.99

00:35:59.700 But when it's black people perpetrating this kind of violence against white people, it's to be brushed under the rug. 0.99

00:36:05.020 And this is what my whole big thing was when the George Floyd incident happened and why I was willing to be one of the people standing up and saying and calling out these Christians for posting the black square and for crying out for justice and things like that, is that you never heard a peep from these people when the police officers kill a white person unjustifiably. 0.99

00:36:30.840 You never hear a peep from these people when black people kill white people or black people kill Asian people because of their race. 1.00

00:36:37.980 And so they're guilty of the sin of partiality. 0.99

00:36:40.420 They're guilty of being dictated by the media and allowing their compassion to wax and wane based on what the news cycle is.

00:36:53.920 That's not Christian love. 0.99

00:36:55.520 That's not justice.

00:36:56.720 That's not the impartiality and true compassion that Christians are called to. 1.00

00:37:03.900 That's virtue signaling.

00:37:06.400 That is a very self-serving form of lazy activism that has nothing to do with biblical justice or love.

00:37:14.200 And so unless you are also talking about these cases where clearly like there is some kind of ethnic animus going on here underneath these kinds of crimes, then I really don't want to hear you talk about it when the races are reversed just because it's popular, just because you're going to get some social or racial justice points.

00:37:35.020 Again, this is much more likely in this country than the reverse.

00:37:39.000 These kinds of crimes are much more likely.

00:37:41.900 Another very similar story just happened in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

00:37:44.840 According to Fox News, a black man has been charged.

00:37:47.120 Interesting that Fox News capitalizes black has been charged with fatally shooting two white strangers in the back of the head in Tulsa, Oklahoma, as part of what authorities are calling a racially motivated hate crime.

00:37:56.880 Carlton Guilford allegedly shot and killed two men to whom he did not have any connection on April 18th, according to the Tulsa Police Department.

00:38:05.060 Police said Gifford, who, according to jail records, is homeless, went inside the Rudisill library around 940, walked up to a man sitting behind a desk, shot him in the back of the head.

00:38:15.940 After the library shooting, Guilford went to a nearby Quick Trip convenience store and shot 55-year-old James McDaniel in the back of the head.

00:38:23.720 And so execution style killed both of these men and said, according to Tulsa County District Attorney Steve Kunzweiler, the evidence suggests Guilford, who is black, shot both men because they were white.

00:38:39.340 The prosecutor did not elaborate.

00:38:42.380 So apparently he's being charged with a hate crime.

00:38:44.120 I've mixed feelings about hate crimes because every murder is motivated by hate.

00:38:50.560 Although I understand that it carries with it maybe different kinds of consequences.

00:38:54.980 But again, I mean, these are just two stories that have happened in the past few weeks.

00:39:00.060 If there was a story where the races are reversed, we would have heard about it.

00:39:05.280 Again, if white supremacy were the greatest terroristic threat, the greatest violent threat to this country, we would all know about it.

00:39:14.660 We would all be able to give detailed examples every week of these kinds of threats happening.

00:39:20.840 So I'm not saying that we should think any differently about people based on their skin color inherently, that they have a higher propensity towards violence innately. 0.66

00:39:34.180 That's not what I'm talking about.

00:39:35.500 I am talking about the truth.

00:39:36.800 I think in order to be truthful people, in order to be impartial people, in order to be just people, we have to be able to see past the narratives and see things as they really are.

00:39:46.500 So why would Biden say this?

00:39:48.160 Because it allows Democrats to get power. 0.81

00:39:50.380 Yes, he's saying this because he's at a black college.

00:39:52.660 It encourages more people to vote for him.

00:39:54.700 If you can say we're defeating white supremacy over here on the Democrat Party and you vote for us, they'll get more power to do the things that they actually want to do,

00:40:03.480 which have nothing really to do with helping black people.

00:40:07.640 And it just creates the chaos and the animus that I think a lot of people in charge really like.

00:40:12.780 Because the more anarchy and hate you create, the more I think you rely on a big power to come in and save the day.

00:40:19.280 And that's what those who want to dramatically grow the power of the government desire to do.

00:40:33.480 Okay, this is a crazy, crazy story that I've been meaning to talk about.

00:40:40.100 I first saw it at the beginning of May, so it's a couple weeks late, but I bet a lot of you haven't seen it.

00:40:44.120 Of course, it's not going to be on CNN.

00:40:45.900 It's not going to be reposted by your favorite social justice influencers.

00:40:50.360 So you got to rely on me to talk about it.

00:40:53.040 In 2020, this is according to Reason Magazine,

00:40:55.780 Morgan Bettinger, a UVA student, was accused on social media and on news outlets of telling protesters

00:41:00.080 they would make good effing speed bumps.

00:41:03.160 It was more than a year before investigations cleared her.

00:41:05.700 The allegations first attracted attention after Zianna Bryant, 0.99

00:41:09.380 a 19-year-old UVA student and social justice activist,

00:41:12.060 made them on Twitter during the Black Women Matter demonstration.

00:41:15.500 So Morgan is white.

00:41:18.120 Zianna is black.

00:41:20.920 Zianna is saying that during these black women demonstrations, 1.00

00:41:24.480 this white girl, Morgan Bettinger, basically said that, 0.97

00:41:27.660 you know, we're going to run you over.

00:41:31.140 The woman in this truck, this is what Zianna Bryant said, 0.96

00:41:34.840 approached protesters in Charlottesville and told us that we would make good speed bumps.

00:41:39.060 She then called the police and started crying, saying we were attacking her.

00:41:42.900 Bryant also posted a series of videos, not of the alleged speed bump comment itself,

00:41:46.820 but of its aftermath.

00:41:47.580 In the videos, an SUV reverses down the street while Bryant and several other protesters follow.

00:41:52.680 It's a Karen, it's a Karen, Bryant taunts Charlottesville Beyond Policing,

00:41:59.040 the group that organized the protest beyond policing, it's like beyond meat,

00:42:02.940 gave more details than a Medium post shortly afterward.

00:42:06.600 The woman drove around the public works truck blocking the street 1.00

00:42:10.040 that demonstrators were convened on and felt compelled to say,

00:42:13.580 not just once but twice, that protesters would make good speed bumps.

00:42:16.600 The second time she repeated it loudly to a black protester and added the F word. 0.52

00:42:21.220 Um, so this story was then picked up by local journalists like Seaville,

00:42:26.900 Charlottesville, Weekly, UVA professors and students on campus.

00:42:31.200 She was quickly identified using her license plate because the protesters took videos of her drive,

00:42:35.860 her car driving away.

00:42:37.520 Bryant began a campaign to send mass complaints to school administrators

00:42:41.200 demanding Bettinger's expulsion.

00:42:44.480 And the year that followed, Bettinger was the subject of multiple investigations.

00:42:48.100 One of them from the UJC would find her guilty of threatening the health or safety of students.

00:42:54.620 As punishment, she would be expelled, meaning that she was allowed to continue her schooling,

00:42:59.180 but that a second violation of the same standard of conduct would likely result in actual expulsion.

00:43:06.320 She was, she also faced a litany of other sanctions, but Bettinger denied this.

00:43:11.340 She denied that she made this threat.

00:43:13.000 Despite two separate investigations, there's no evidence beyond Bryant's allegations that

00:43:17.500 Bettinger said protesters would make good effing speed bumps or that she threatened the protesters

00:43:22.600 at all. 0.68

00:43:24.640 And Bryant's most damning claim that Bettinger had told protesters that, you know, they should die,

00:43:29.640 had no corroborating witnesses, even though it allegedly occurred in front of a crowd,

00:43:33.880 a crowd of more than 30 people.

00:43:36.080 Um, but none of this, the, the details that kind of clear her or show that there's no evidence

00:43:43.280 would come out until a year later in June, 2021, with the result of the investigation

00:43:47.180 kept largely under wraps.

00:43:48.940 The only story that most UVA students heard, the one reported or repeated over group chats,

00:43:54.240 Twitter threads, and Zoom meetings with almost manic fervor was Bryant's.

00:43:58.680 Now here's what, um, Bettinger says.

00:44:01.040 She says that it was July 17th, 2020.

00:44:03.940 She was driving home from work near downtown Charlottesville.

00:44:07.140 She saw a dump truck blocking a road ahead.

00:44:09.440 She didn't know that the road was entirely closed.

00:44:12.160 She drove around the, the, the dump truck and ended up near the Black Women Matter protest. 0.99

00:44:18.480 And then she said that they had a polite conversation or the dump truck driver in her had a polite

00:44:22.860 conversation.

00:44:23.680 She took a photo, headed back to her car, attracting the attention of some protesters. 0.99

00:44:28.120 You've probably seen some of these videos.

00:44:29.660 You don't, I'm sorry, but during these riots and protests, you do not as a white person

00:44:34.000 get out of your car.

00:44:35.140 I mean, you are asking for some kind of confrontation.

00:44:37.320 That's the sad fact of the matter.

00:44:38.640 We've seen too many videos of things just going awry.

00:44:42.040 And, um, the, the crowd grew increasingly aggressive toward her, according to her, shouting

00:44:48.320 at her, pounding on the car's windows and threatening her.

00:44:50.540 She called 911. 0.68

00:44:52.000 Eventually the protesters gave her space back up to back up one block, but was surrounded

00:44:57.200 again, police eventually came and helped her get away after making sure she was okay.

00:45:02.380 Bettinger was unaware of the social media fervor until a friend sent her Bryant's Twitter

00:45:06.960 threat.

00:45:08.360 Um, so this is what, this is what she claimed happened.

00:45:11.260 And then she said, of course, that her life was basically a living hell.

00:45:15.540 After these accusations, she was followed in the grocery store, had to use a family friend's 0.91

00:45:19.260 car because people were searching for her car. 0.78

00:45:21.300 Because remember, Bryant had posted videos and pictures of her license plate.

00:45:26.420 Uh, the school tried to kick her out of her own major.

00:45:28.780 We already heard that she was, um, that she was expelled with abeyance.

00:45:33.220 So she was actually able to stay, but it was like, if you get another strike, you're actually

00:45:36.820 kicked out.

00:45:37.540 Even as all classes were virtual via Zoom at the time, her cohort refused to be in the

00:45:41.540 same virtual class as her.

00:45:42.700 So the class was officially changed to an asynchronous course. 0.98

00:45:46.060 Um, one individual from her cohort compared her to a rapist. 0.97

00:45:52.460 All right.

00:45:54.980 Um, so then as they go through this trial, they find out that there is no corroboration.

00:46:01.000 And actually the witnesses there cannot verify anything that Bryant accused Bettinger of.

00:46:06.580 They offer testimony inconsistent with the original claims that she made.

00:46:10.580 And, um, still around three or 4am after this trial by the UJC, the trial panel still found

00:46:18.800 Bettinger guilty.

00:46:20.680 She was sentenced to 50 hours of community service with a social justice organization,

00:46:25.160 three meetings with an assigned professor to teach her about police community relations,

00:46:29.440 an apology letter to Bryant and the expulsion in abeyance.

00:46:33.500 Wow.

00:46:33.820 So this is, I mean, this is no different than a struggle session, right?

00:46:37.000 I mean, this is no different than Mao's China. 0.90

00:46:39.200 The investigation was completed in 2021, detailed how the allegations made by Bryant were not

00:46:46.020 corroborated by witnesses.

00:46:47.540 It ended up vindicating Bettinger.

00:46:49.920 Um, there's no evidence whatsoever.

00:46:52.420 And yet she, I mean, she will never get this time back.

00:46:55.520 She will never get her college experience back.

00:46:57.580 It's been completely marred. 0.95

00:46:58.780 It's been completely ruined because we just assume that black accusers, black social justice 0.99

00:47:04.900 activists are always telling the truth.

00:47:06.800 And I'm not even sure if we're always concerned with the truth.

00:47:11.000 I don't even know that we care really about justice.

00:47:14.620 I don't know that we really care about impartiality.

00:47:17.220 I think we just care about looking like we're doing the quote unquote right thing.

00:47:22.620 That's wrong.

00:47:23.320 I mean, Christians should stand up against this stuff.

00:47:25.260 If we care about truth and we should, God does.

00:47:29.960 God says that we should not defer to the poor or to the great in a lawsuit.

00:47:35.000 We should not show partiality against one party and that false accusations are abhorrent

00:47:41.240 to God.

00:47:41.940 Actually, in ancient Israel, he said, if you make a false accusation against someone, you

00:47:45.520 should get the punishment that they would have gotten if they were found guilty.

00:47:48.920 That's how much he cares about false accusations.

00:47:51.100 And so Christians who just go along with these racial narratives, who just push this idea that 0.95

00:47:57.620 white supremacy is the greatest threat and that black people are consistently and constantly 0.97

00:48:02.460 marginalized, pushed to the side, mistreated by these white systems, these white people 1.00

00:48:06.760 in power.

00:48:07.600 It's just not true today.

00:48:09.260 It's just not true today.

00:48:12.000 We should care about justice for all people.

00:48:14.720 We should care about truth.

00:48:16.120 We should care about regarding people as image bearers of God, no matter what their ethnicity

00:48:20.100 is, no matter what their skin color is, that does not mean that we should be lying.

00:48:24.580 Actually, that means that we should not be lying because living not by lies is actually

00:48:30.300 the most virtuous thing that we can do.

00:48:32.720 All right.

00:48:33.280 That's all we got time for today.

00:48:35.000 I will see you back here on Monday.

00:48:37.400 Have a great weekend.

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