Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 82

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. I hope that you all had a lovely weekend. Last week I was at CPAC

00:00:06.720 until Friday and I get to meet a lot of you guys there. So thank you to those of you who came to

00:00:11.280 my talks and introduced yourselves to me afterwards, even got pictures. It's always really

00:00:16.200 fun to talk to you guys, to talk to you about what specifically you're interested in in the

00:00:20.560 conservative movement. We'll talk a little bit about CPAC, specifically something that President

00:00:25.220 Trump said and did at CPAC, but we're not going to really get into the conference too much today.

00:00:30.860 I really enjoyed the parts that I got to play in CPAC and the conversations that I was a part of.

00:00:35.680 There was some controversy, as there always is, surrounding the conference. Some criticism of

00:00:40.240 the conference, I think, was extremely legitimate. Some probably not so much. It just depends on

00:00:45.660 where it came from. But like I said, I was very excited and honored to talk about religious liberty

00:00:51.560 and the importance of faith to the national identity, as well as the future of the American

00:00:57.420 family. So that was really fun for me. And like I said, it was extremely rewarding to meet some of

00:01:03.420 you guys that were there. Also, another announcement that I made last week, I am going to New York City

00:01:10.060 this week. My husband and I are, and I'm going to be on the Fox show Outnumbered at 11 a.m. Central

00:01:15.760 time and 12 p.m. Eastern time, I believe. So I'm excited about that. I'll be on TV for a full hour

00:01:21.700 co-hosting the show. There's four girls and one guy, four girls. I should probably say women,

00:01:28.940 four women and one guy, and we'll be discussing the news of the day. So if you want to watch me

00:01:33.300 for a whole hour on television, make sure that you tune in on Thursday to Fox, 12 p.m. Eastern time.

00:01:39.080 And then also just to reiterate the announcement that I made at the end of the episode on Thursday

00:01:45.520 of last week, this podcast is going to three times a week starting next week. I still haven't decided

00:01:52.360 which days it's going to come out. I know that's like extremely last minute, but I haven't decided

00:01:57.000 if it's going to be Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, or Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I really need to decide

00:02:00.760 that. I know. So if you guys have any feedback, please let me know. And any topics that you would

00:02:06.340 like cover next week, of course, you can email me or message me on Instagram. So today, what we are

00:02:11.860 going to talk about is hypocrisy that's happening on the right, coming specifically from the president

00:02:16.420 of the United States. And then some of the hypocrisy that's coming from Democrats, particularly

00:02:21.720 Democrats that are in Congress. Thursday is when we're going to talk about the Methodist church and

00:02:26.440 the decision that just came out of the governing body of the Methodist church. A lot of you guys have

00:02:30.580 asked me, um, asked me to cover that. We covered it a little bit last week, but I'm going to go

00:02:35.660 more in depth on Thursday. And then a lot of you guys sent me Jen Hatmaker's recent Instagram post

00:02:41.240 that was referencing the Methodist church decision. And so we will get into all of that as well.

00:02:46.500 But today we're going to talk about hypocrisy, like I said, right. And the left, and I will also

00:02:51.840 touch on Michael Cohen because a few of you asked me to talk about that. And then I might touch extremely

00:02:57.380 lightly, extremely lightly on vaccines, because that has been an issue of contention, uh, in a lot of

00:03:05.280 circles, but particularly among my followers messaging me and asking me what I think about

00:03:09.200 vaccines. Both sides are extremely passionate and it's a sensitive subject that I am going to try to

00:03:14.480 be sensitive to. And I do not intend whenever I do talk about it in full, after I've researched,

00:03:20.760 uh, enough sufficiently both sides, I don't plan to patronize or to condemn or to talk down to any side,

00:03:28.760 but I will be giving my opinion based on factual analysis. So I might just touch on one piece of that

00:03:34.080 today before we get into it in full. So first I want to talk about some hypocrisy coming from the

00:03:38.340 right. Now I get accused of being, um, anti-Trump of being, uh, associated with anti-Trumpers of hating

00:03:46.780 Donald Trump of, of not acknowledging his success, which I think is completely absurd. But then you

00:03:53.220 also have people that think that I am just going to worship at the altar of Trump, that I am an extreme

00:03:59.460 pro-Trumper that I am going to give him credit for all the things he does, even the things that

00:04:03.640 are blameworthy. Neither of these things are true. I did vote for Donald Trump. I thought that he was

00:04:08.840 better than the alternative. I respect the position of people who say, you know, they couldn't morally

00:04:13.620 bring themselves to vote for Donald Trump because he didn't align with their values, doesn't align with

00:04:17.960 conservatism. I understand that. And, uh, I, I, I get that argument. That's all I'll say, uh, from my position

00:04:25.920 in 2016, I thought, okay, I've, I've really got two options. This is a binary decision here. And do I want

00:04:33.060 someone who I think is going to, um, advocate for legislation that is pro-choice pro-abortion or someone

00:04:40.560 whose administration is probably going to fight more on the side of life and also for the rights and the values

00:04:45.340 that I believe in. I did a whole episode talking about how, uh, Donald Trump as a person doesn't

00:04:50.760 represent the Christian values that I represent, but, uh, neither did Barack Obama in a lot of

00:04:55.140 ways, neither, uh, did a lot of presidents. And so, uh, that's kind of where I land. But if you want

00:05:00.500 to hear a more comprehensive view of how I kind of came to the conclusion of voting for Donald Trump

00:05:05.360 and the issues that I'm still working out in my mind and, uh, from a biblical perspective about

00:05:10.620 Donald Trump and voting for him and his policies, you can go back. It's probably like

00:05:15.140 the second episode that I ever did of relatable. So I just want to set this up before I talk about

00:05:19.660 the hypocrisy that I think president Trump has shown just a little bit over the past couple of

00:05:24.160 weeks. I want to set up that I am either anti-Trump or super pro-Trump. I criticize him when I think

00:05:30.060 whatever he does solicits criticism and I give him credit when I think that he deserves credit.

00:05:36.280 I am not the biggest Donald Trump fan in the world. Like I'll just let you know that I'm not

00:05:41.520 the biggest Donald Trump fan, but I have no problem whatsoever supporting him when he does

00:05:46.540 something that is good for the country. Absolutely. 100% because I want this country to succeed.

00:05:51.440 That would be true if we had a Democrat in office too. I want this country to succeed. And I also think

00:05:56.880 and quite enjoy that, uh, Donald Trump has pushed the push to the left completely off their rocker

00:06:05.000 and has really exposed just how crazy they are. Okay. So I just want to preface what I'm about to say

00:06:09.600 with all of that. So, you know, exactly where I'm coming from, especially if you're new to the

00:06:13.380 podcast. And so my contention with Donald Trump, the specific contention that I have over the past

00:06:18.860 couple of weeks has to do with his talks with Kim Jong-un and he, uh, his talks to de-nuclearize

00:06:25.440 completely North Korea. So he went to Vietnam to have this summit or have this conversation with Kim

00:06:31.360 Jong-un and long story short, it didn't actually work. They didn't come to terms, um, that they both

00:06:37.680 agreed on. And I think it's good that president Trump didn't give in. Kim Jong-un says, I would

00:06:43.160 like all sanctions to be removed, uh, from North Korea. And then we'll talk to denuclearization.

00:06:49.160 President Trump rightly said, no, we're not going to remove all sanctions. Sorry. That's just not the

00:06:53.700 deal that we're going to come to. And so it fell through. We shouldn't try to sugar coat that.

00:06:58.940 It didn't work. Uh, he didn't strike a deal that was favorable for the United States. And so

00:07:05.700 it fell through. If this happened under Obama, conservatives would have no problem saying that

00:07:11.120 this is Obama's fault, but it kind of seems like we're patting Trump on the back or applauding

00:07:16.320 Trump for just making the effort, even though the effort failed. Now, I think he ultimately made the

00:07:21.500 right decision, but we can also be fair in our criticism of this not going as planned. Um, so

00:07:28.120 president Trump was facing the press in Vietnam. He was asked by a member of the media about auto

00:07:34.040 warm beer. And one of the reasons why this member of the media asked about auto warm beer,

00:07:38.800 who I'll remind you who he is, by the way, if you've forgotten, um, is because Trump has spoken

00:07:43.160 really kindly of Kim Jong-un besides calling him rocket man one time. And that was a favorite

00:07:48.460 nickname of, of mine that he has used on his adversaries. But since then, he's been pretty

00:07:53.880 kind to Kim Jong-un publicly. He says that they have a great relationship. He has called them his

00:07:58.520 friend. He's really praised his leadership, said that he's a great leader. He's been extremely

00:08:03.100 complimentary and kind to him. So in Vietnam, after the summit, a member of the media asked

00:08:09.820 about auto warm beer, and this was Trump's response. Some really bad things happened to

00:08:14.440 auto, some really, really bad things. But Kim tells me that he didn't know about it. And I will take him

00:08:19.980 at his word. Uh, he goes on to defend him for a few minutes, insisting that Kim Jong-un didn't know,

00:08:25.700 uh, about this. Um, and that, you know, there's a lot of people in this country. A lot of things go

00:08:33.260 on. Maybe the dictator who has such a tight grip on this nation didn't know about it. Now I want to

00:08:40.860 remind you about auto warm beer and who he was just in case you forgotten. So he was the 21 year old

00:08:47.600 college student, uh, who allegedly, according to the North Korean government, stole a propaganda

00:08:52.640 poster and was arrested in 2016. He returned in June of 2017. I remember this extremely

00:08:58.660 clearly. There is an expose, an excellent article in GQ. I'm not a huge fan of GQ, but this article

00:09:04.680 was so graphic and so good about what exactly happened to auto warm beer. And I'll read a little

00:09:11.060 bit of, of what it says about, uh, when auto warm beer actually came home after he was released from

00:09:17.960 prison and after Trump was able to get him back to the country. So this is what GQ said halfway up

00:09:23.960 the airplane stairs over the wine of the still cycling engines. Fred, that is auto warm beer's

00:09:29.320 dad leader said he heard a guttural inhuman howling and wondered what it was. So this is describing his

00:09:35.840 parents seeing auto for the first time auto was still on the airplane, um, touched down in American

00:09:41.400 soil. So his family came to greet him after he had been in jail in North Korea for, um, I think over a

00:09:47.680 year at this point. So Fred is his dad. Uh, Fred later said he heard a guttural inhuman howling and

00:09:52.800 wondered what it was. But when he stepped into the cabin cluttered with medical equipment, he found

00:09:57.060 its source auto strapped to a stretcher jerking violently against his restraints and wailing

00:10:02.360 Cindy. This is auto's mom was prepared for her son to be changed, but she had not expected this

00:10:08.220 auto's arms and legs were totally deformed. According to his parents, his wavy Brown locks had been

00:10:13.840 buzzed off a feeding tube infiltrated his nostrils. It looked like someone had taken a pair of pliers

00:10:19.900 and rearranged his bottom teeth. As Fred would say, according to Cindy auto sister fled the plane

00:10:25.660 screaming and Cindy ran after her. Fred approached his son and hugged him. I could cry reading this

00:10:31.940 auto's eyes remained wide open and blank. Frank told auto that he had missed him and he was overjoyed to

00:10:37.400 have him home. But auto's alien keening only continued impossible to comfort auto died a few

00:10:43.400 days later after this, after his parents requested that they take his feeding tube out. Uh, so he died

00:10:49.380 at 22 years old, uh, because he was tortured and basically murdered by the North Korean government for

00:10:56.400 allegedly stealing a propaganda poster. Now, why was he in North Korea as a college student? He attended

00:11:02.000 the university of Virginia. Uh, we're not entirely sure why he actually made this decision. I think

00:11:07.660 he actually went with a program, uh, from the university. Of course, it's not recommended that

00:11:14.040 you go to North Korea. Does this justify in any way what happened to him? Of course not. This was a

00:11:18.960 travesty. This is something that made people on both sides of the aisle completely enraged. I mean,

00:11:24.600 you killed, you tortured and killed a young American probably for nothing, probably for nothing. And even if he

00:11:31.380 did, uh, commit that small of a crime, it's a heinous act that should be condemned by absolutely

00:11:36.860 everyone. But president Trump, the other day when he was in Vietnam, after he had met with Kim Jong-un

00:11:42.100 says that he takes Kim Jong-un at his work, that Kim Jong-un knew nothing about the torturing, nothing

00:11:48.480 about, uh, the murder of an American citizen goes on to defend him. This is the guy that, uh, long after

00:11:55.860 this whole auto auto warm beer thing happened, uh, president Trump said that he is a good leader,

00:12:01.060 that people respect him. Now, a lot of people say that Trump is just buttering up Kim Jong-un so he

00:12:07.520 can make a good deal for denuclearization, but to go so far as to say that you take Kim Jong-un,

00:12:15.140 the dictator of North Korea at his word, there is absolutely no reason for that. There's absolutely

00:12:20.080 no reason for the praying of such an evil dictator. So let us talk about Kim Jong-un for a second. Uh,

00:12:25.640 this is the guy who has had his relatives killed. Uh, North Korea is one of the worst human rights

00:12:30.460 violators in the world. They have concentration camps. They're starving their own people. Uh,

00:12:35.180 reports say this is particularly egregious reports say reports are slim by the way, uh, because they're

00:12:40.840 so private, but reports say in 2014, Kim directed North Koreans to add human and livestock excrement

00:12:47.360 to fertilizers to improve crop turnout, human excrement. But as livestock was scarce in North Korea,

00:12:53.540 the burden fell on people to use their own feces. They found this out because in 2017, a 25 year

00:13:00.240 old North Korean defector, uh, fled to South Korea under gunfire from North Korean military.

00:13:05.960 Uh, he was taken into a South Korean, uh, a South Korean hospital to be treated where they found a

00:13:12.380 10.6 inch parasite in his stomach. In addition to lots of other parasites that were in his stomach

00:13:18.240 due to human feces being used to grow crops in North Korea. Oh, and by the way, the North Korean

00:13:24.880 government would tout the vegetables that were grown from human feces fertilizer is the most delicious

00:13:30.940 vegetables in the world. Um, experts in South Korea say that this is a widespread phenomenon in North

00:13:37.080 Korea, though. It's really hard to get, uh, hard numbers on the health records just because like I

00:13:41.880 said, they are so private and closed off. Uh, there is no freedom of religion in North Korea, no freedom

00:13:47.400 of speech, no freedom of the press, no freedom of commerce, no private property, no privacy.

00:13:53.120 Everything, including churches are run by the state. There is no such thing as individual liberty

00:13:59.200 or the acknowledgement of human dignity in North Korea defectors. There have been a few who have

00:14:03.960 survived, who have been able to speak out, uh, just speak of the manipulation and the brainwashing

00:14:09.220 that goes on that North Koreans, most of them really have no idea what is outside. They have no idea

00:14:16.540 that there is this thing called freedom. There is no, they have no concept of privacy, no concept of

00:14:22.020 private property. And yet the fact that there are defectors, the fact that there are those who,

00:14:27.260 who run away for something different, for something more, the fact that they even have a concept of

00:14:32.240 misery and injustice shows that there is something innate in the human heart that was given to us by

00:14:38.120 God, uh, for liberty, uh, for, uh, for some kind of relief from tyranny, uh, from, uh, a relief from

00:14:51.120 the misery that is caused by a dictatorship. It's, it's really amazing. Um, and the fact that President

00:14:58.400 Trump would take someone like this at his word or say that he takes Kim Jong-un at his word is

00:15:06.400 completely unnecessary to the talks of denuclearization and completely immoral. Now you had

00:15:12.720 Otto Warmbier's family speaking out. You had Nikki Haley speaking out. You had John Bolton, who works

00:15:17.940 for the president, unable to say that he actually agrees with the president's wording. You had a lot

00:15:22.200 of people within the administration say that probably wasn't the right thing to say. A lot of supporters

00:15:27.120 of Trump saying that probably wasn't the right thing to say, but not enough. You still have a lot of

00:15:33.400 people, uh, defending president Trump for saying something that disgusting and that egregious

00:15:39.480 about a dictator who killed one of our citizens, who, who daily violates the rights of its own

00:15:46.740 citizens of his own citizens. Um, I don't really understand this constant need to defend president

00:15:54.840 Trump's patriotism and love for America when he demonstrates or says something that, uh, clearly

00:16:02.040 is not indicative of a love for America. And I'm not saying that he doesn't love America. I'm not

00:16:07.040 saying that he isn't patriotic in general, but this particular statement, um, this kind of subliminal

00:16:14.260 fidelity to an autocrat, especially one that has harmed, uh, a U S citizen doesn't make any sense to

00:16:20.180 me. If this were president Obama, conservatives would be having a meltdown. We would be having a

00:16:26.340 meltdown. We would be saying, see, this is exactly what we thought. This guy hates America. This guy is on

00:16:31.560 an apology tour. This guy is trying to acquiesce to, uh, leaders of other countries, but because

00:16:37.400 it's Donald Trump, we have to say, Oh no, no, this is all part of the game. This is all part of

00:16:41.240 patriotism. I don't feel any allegiance to Trump whatsoever, just because I voted for him. And

00:16:45.960 because I vote Republican, it doesn't make any sense to me. Um, it violates my principles. It

00:16:51.500 violates my values that I think supersede anyone who is in office. And president Trump did back up on

00:16:58.640 Twitter and say, you know, of course I blame North Korea for this, but he, I mean, president

00:17:03.300 Trump doesn't apologize, but I think that he should apologize to auto warm beers family. And if I were

00:17:08.420 the warm beers, I would feel a huge slap in the face. It's not hard to condemn Kim Jong-un. It's

00:17:15.040 not like we have all the power in the world and he doesn't, we don't need to cuddle up to him. We don't

00:17:21.560 need to cuddle him. We don't need to stroke his ego. America doesn't need to do that. And quite frankly,

00:17:26.880 I think it's immoral too. So that's the hypocrisy that I've seen on the right from Donald Trump.

00:17:31.980 It really, really bothers me. Like I said, I love when he does good things. And I think he did do

00:17:37.580 a good thing at CPAC. He said that he was going to, uh, he was going to sign an executive order

00:17:42.840 that said, Hey, if you're a college who receives federal funds, uh, you have to respect the first

00:17:49.300 amendment. You have to uphold the first amendment for your students. And, um, if you don't, then you

00:17:55.060 might, uh, you are at risk of losing your federal funding. Okay. I think that's probably a good

00:18:00.560 thing. We need to see the executive order before we make any judgments on it. But I think that's

00:18:04.840 probably good. So you have an instance of president Trump doing something that I think

00:18:07.760 conservatives should condemn. And then you have president Trump doing something that I think a lot

00:18:12.820 of conservatives should probably applaud. But let us remember as well with the free speech thing

00:18:19.440 that it was not too long ago. I think it was 2018. Trump invited all of these millennials and

00:18:24.660 college students to the white house. I did not get the invitation by the way, but he invited all

00:18:30.000 of these people to the white house. And he actually said, he actually said on stage in front of all

00:18:35.260 these college students and millennials, Oh, I don't think free speech on college campuses is that big

00:18:39.640 of a deal. And he was rebuffed for that. He got a lot of pushback, but that's what he genuinely

00:18:43.800 thinks. He knew that at a CPAC conference with, with a lot of college students, with a lot of young

00:18:48.660 people. He has learned thankfully since then that free speech is a big deal to us. And so he has

00:18:53.480 made it a big deal, which is great. That's true. You know what? That's why I voted for president

00:18:58.340 Trump. Not because I believe that he has the same convictions as me, but because I believe his

00:19:02.560 administration is going to push forward things that are in the interest of the country and in the

00:19:07.820 interest of conservatives. So that's president Trump. Let's move on to something fun, which is

00:19:13.840 hypocrisy from people on the left. And we're going to look to two people in particular, two of our

00:19:18.380 favorite people in Congress, two of our fresh freshmen, freshman Congress members, AOC and

00:19:25.360 Ilhan Omar. So first let's look at AOC. If you remember, AOC was the coauthor is the coauthor of

00:19:31.980 the green new deal. She fancies herself an environmentalist. She said that the world is

00:19:36.660 going to end in 12 years, that we're all going to die, that this is millennials world war two.

00:19:41.320 It's that big of a deal that maybe we need to stop eating so many hamburgers. Now she did say

00:19:46.460 that tongue in cheek, but she says she's claiming that she never made that statement. She didn't

00:19:49.800 make that statement. She said that we're going to provide economic security for everyone who's

00:19:54.040 unwilling to work. We're going to rebuild all the buildings in the United States to make sure that

00:19:59.100 they're they're friendly to the environment. All Democratic candidates latched onto this deal,

00:20:05.560 by the way. Well, the New York Post ran a story about how much her campaign has been flying or did fly

00:20:12.260 during the campaign and how much they use cars rather than using public transportation rather

00:20:16.480 than walking. This is the same woman who says that she wants to eliminate air travel in favor of high

00:20:22.840 speed rail. Well, she doesn't seem to be living by her dreams and living by her wants. So she responds

00:20:28.140 to this New York Post story saying, look, I live in the world. I use air conditioning and I fly big

00:20:35.400 whoop. You've got all these people defending her saying, oh, conservatives are just going after her.

00:20:40.040 They want her to inconvenience herself. Well, yeah, because she wants everyone else to be

00:20:44.560 inconvenienced. She wants to make it so that the government mandates how we live, how we travel,

00:20:49.980 how we eat and how we function as a society. But she doesn't want to live by her own rules

00:20:56.340 voluntarily. She doesn't want to do that right now. Well, the founder of Greenpeace, the co-founder,

00:21:01.560 which is an extreme environmentalist group, his name is Patrick Moore, tweeted at her.

00:21:05.920 But the world as it is, because her original tweet says, I'm just living in the world as it is.

00:21:11.040 He says the world as it is, has the option of taking the subway rather than the taxi option of

00:21:15.860 Amtrak rather than the plane option of opening windows rather than AC. You're just a garden

00:21:20.940 variety hypocrite like all the others. And you have zero expertise at any of the things that you

00:21:26.040 pretend to know. So this is from an actual environmentalist calling her out for her hypocrisy,

00:21:31.840 which is absolutely true. Now, this guy has also criticized her for comparing climate change to

00:21:35.940 World War II. He said, OK, 60 million people died in World War II. There's not really a comparison.

00:21:41.580 Also criticized her for stating that she was in charge after people were criticizing her Green New

00:21:47.400 Deal. So I think it just goes to show yet again, AOC has nothing. She has she has no idea what she's

00:21:53.320 actually talking about. And she doesn't plan to ever actually walk the walk. She is your typical

00:21:58.720 millennial who has skimmed through Huffington Post articles and who has been given a little bit of

00:22:04.080 information from her staffers and what are whatever actual adults are behind her and pushing her to

00:22:08.940 advocate for the policies she's advocating for. And she goes out and spouts the she spouts the most

00:22:15.300 superficial statistics that she can in order to push this hardcore legislation. And when she's called

00:22:20.440 out for it, she says that people are bullying her because she's young and because she's a woman. No,

00:22:25.200 it's actually just because what you're saying is inaccurate. You don't know what you're doing.

00:22:29.280 Let's move on to our other favorite freshman congressperson, Ilhan Omar. She's a Democrat

00:22:34.980 from Minnesota. She is a Muslim from Somalia, and she was part of the reason why Congress changed the

00:22:43.320 rules to where you can wear religious head coverings in the congressional chamber, which I think is a great

00:22:48.520 thing. I think that you should be able to do that. So that's good. Now, she has accused Israel of

00:22:55.180 hypnotizing the world in the past. She has accused all Israel supporters of being controlled by money

00:23:00.780 and now is accusing those who support Israel of dual loyalty. So she is an anti-Semite. She has had

00:23:07.860 many instances before and during her reign as a congressperson of being an anti-Semite. All of these

00:23:16.320 that I just listed, Israel hypnotizing the world, Israel supporters being controlled by money,

00:23:21.100 support of Israel, meaning dual loyalty. All of these are anti-Semitic tropes that,

00:23:26.700 oh, the miserly Jews are controlling all the world. She's been called out by Democratic lawmakers

00:23:33.400 as well as Republicans. They have condemned her for her bigotry. They have asked for her to apologize,

00:23:39.200 which I think is good. I'm glad that both sides are kind of uniting around how bad anti-Semitism and

00:23:45.320 just racism is in general, at least some members of the right and the left anyway. But let us remember

00:23:51.060 the different treatment of Steve King. I mean, Steve King was absolutely raked over the coals.

00:23:56.420 He's the congressperson from Iowa raked over the coals because of what he said about, oh, why is white

00:24:03.280 nationalism that big of a deal? Which was a bad thing to say. Like he should have been criticized for

00:24:07.700 that. But he was stripped of all of his committee responsibilities, his committee roles, which maybe

00:24:14.540 that was a good thing for what he said in an article for the New York Times. But that hasn't

00:24:21.580 happened to Ilhan Omar for saying just as bad things about Jews. She is on the committee on the budget.

00:24:27.860 She is on the committee on education and labor. She is on the committee on foreign affairs. And we're

00:24:33.220 seeing all kinds of excuses from a lot of people from the left. Like I said, some Democrats and people

00:24:37.560 on the left are calling her out. But we're seeing all kinds of excuses from her supporters that we're

00:24:42.940 just criticizing her because she is a Muslim woman of color, that that's what it's all about. And it's

00:24:48.480 not anti-Semitic to criticize Israel. And you're right. It is not anti-Semitic to criticize Israel.

00:24:54.640 But one, all of her criticisms have been based on Jewish stereotypes that aren't true. And there is

00:25:01.120 no reason to criticize Israel. There's no major reason to criticize Israel outside of

00:25:07.380 anti-Semitism because they are our ally. They're the only democracy in the Middle East,

00:25:11.720 the only place in the Middle East where religious minorities are actually respected,

00:25:15.920 where their dignity and rights are acknowledged. And there also is a little bit, you know,

00:25:22.020 she says this, she says, I'm accused of being anti-American because I am criticizing Israel.

00:25:27.980 And that's not fair. That's dual loyalty. But there is a little bit of anti-Americanism

00:25:32.160 that typically comes along with being as anti-Israel as she is. And it's this anti-democracy

00:25:41.220 strain of the far left that is coming out in the people who are anti-Israel. It's also this kind of

00:25:47.760 weird intersectionality mentality that the more successful a group is, the less credibility they

00:25:53.960 have or the more they need to be criticized. And that certainly comes out not just in relation to

00:25:58.700 Israel, but also in relation to Jewish people. That's why anti-Semitism is sometimes allowed and

00:26:05.160 even condoned, particularly on the left, because Jews aren't seen as as oppressed as other minority

00:26:12.000 groups. And so the justification for anti-Semitism is a lot stronger among the left than it is for

00:26:18.440 racism against other minorities, which is why, again, intersectionality is so stupid. It doesn't

00:26:23.660 make any sense whatsoever. Now, from a Christian perspective on this whole Israel and in Palestine

00:26:30.280 controversy, of course, Palestinians are the same worth in the eyes of God in that they are all made

00:26:36.260 in the image of God in that we should not rejoice in their pain. We should not seek their pain. We

00:26:40.480 shouldn't want the people, the people to be destroyed or to be hurt. We can have compassion for

00:26:46.200 the Palestinian people, but we need to recognize, of course, that Israel has a right to exist,

00:26:51.240 that they have been a good ally to America, that they are the only democracy in the Middle East,

00:26:56.200 and that they have acted consistently in defense against foreign adversaries, including against

00:27:01.880 Palestinian terrorist groups. I did a whole episode on this called Anti-Semitism and Cycles of Hate

00:27:07.820 a few months back. And so if you want my full take on America's view and America's history of Israel

00:27:14.580 and the Christian perspective on Israel, you can listen to that in full. And so the hypocrisy we're seeing

00:27:21.000 in particular with Ilhan Omar is that you have a lot of qualifications, it seems like, on the left

00:27:28.380 for what actually counts as anti-Semitism. Like, oh, well, you know, saying that people who are

00:27:34.580 controlled, who support Israel are controlled by money isn't really anti-Semitic. It's just a fact.

00:27:40.960 But these are the same people. You can't say anything about any other minority without being labeled

00:27:46.020 an Islamophobe or an anti-Black racist. But there seems to be a lot more lax rules for anti-Semitism

00:27:56.700 than there is for any other type of racism. And again, it's because of that crazy intersectionality

00:28:01.700 world where you're given a certain number of points for how allegedly oppressed you have been,

00:28:07.980 which, like I said, doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Okay, so that's hypocrisy on the left,

00:28:12.540 which, of course, we see on a pretty daily basis. And I'll keep you up to date on all of that.

00:28:18.100 I do want to touch on slightly the Michael Cohen hearing. So he testified last week publicly before

00:28:23.460 Congress. This was Donald Trump's fixer, his attorney that worked with him for 10 years,

00:28:30.540 that was a big fan of Donald Trump, a big advocate for Donald Trump. Donald Trump apparently trusted

00:28:35.980 him very much. In his testimony, he accused Trump of being a racist and a con man. All of the things

00:28:42.860 that Democrats wanted to hear accused him of a campaign finance violation, saying that he ordered

00:28:48.720 Cohen to pay off Stormy Daniels, you know, the porn star that President Trump allegedly cheated with.

00:28:53.720 And then President Trump paid Cohen back. He said that Trump encouraged him to lie to Congress

00:29:00.500 about Trump's business dealings with Russia and Trump Moscow, that Trump apparently he you know,

00:29:09.400 he lied to the American people about his business dealings with Russia. But none of these things are

00:29:15.740 it's not clear whether any of these things are actually impeachable campaign finance violations

00:29:20.860 that certainly happened in Obama's campaign. And he was given a fine for that. It didn't proceed

00:29:26.800 impeachment. Now, there are other talks about whether or not Trump committed fraud. And so

00:29:32.760 we'll see about all of that. Now, a lot of there are various House committees trying to file articles

00:29:37.920 of impeachment through various investigations into Donald Trump. And so they're looking into him

00:29:43.620 for obstruction of justice, for abuse of power. This is separate from the Mueller probe, by the way.

00:29:50.360 They're trying to get into his tax returns to see what he's been up to and if there is any

00:29:55.740 justification at all for filing for impeachment. Now, we just we just don't know right now. We just

00:30:02.000 don't know. And the Mueller probe is apparently supposed to be coming out any day now or in the

00:30:07.760 next coming weeks. The theory is mostly on the right that the reason why Democrats are doing this

00:30:13.040 is because they know there's not going to be anything in the way of Russian collusion when the

00:30:17.280 Mueller probe actually comes out, when the report comes out.

00:30:20.520 And so they're trying to find all of these other ways to to impeach Donald Trump. So a lot of people

00:30:27.460 are saying that now, since I have just a tiny bit of time, I do want to touch on vaccines for just a

00:30:34.460 second. So there are a lot of people in my Instagram DMs that are anti-vaccine who accuse me, who say that

00:30:41.000 I am extremely pro-vaccine, which I think I've only said one thing about vaccines publicly that

00:30:48.480 someone accused me on the left, accused me of being anti-vaccine, which I've also never said.

00:30:53.740 And so in my defense, I said, no, I'm for vaccinating your children. Well, apparently that was a very

00:30:59.320 scandalous thing to say. That was a few months ago. I'm still getting messages about that. And of course,

00:31:03.620 I'm pregnant. And so you've got a lot of people messaging me, making sure that I know about vaccines.

00:31:08.820 Now, listen, I'm not going to get in to all of it right now, because here's what I want you to know.

00:31:15.460 So I want you to know that I am for I am for the freedom to choose whether or not you're going to

00:31:23.500 vaccinate your children. I do not believe that the government should mandate that. OK, so that's

00:31:29.220 where we can all get along. The pro-vaxxers, the anti-vaxxers, we can get along in uniting behind

00:31:36.180 behind the idea that the government should not mandate what kind of medicine we give to our

00:31:42.840 children, whether or not we vaccinate them. Now, there's also the whole controversy with

00:31:47.060 aborted fetal parts. Are those still being used? Some sides say yes. Some sides say no.

00:31:53.360 But I don't think that this is here's here's here's what I want both sides to understand is that

00:31:59.620 there's a lot of research on both sides. OK, there's a lot of research that says we all need

00:32:05.460 to be vaccinating our kids. And in fact, it's a pretty privileged position for any American to take

00:32:12.400 that we take for granted so much the health that we've had for the past centuries because of vaccines

00:32:16.880 that we are able to say, oh, measles, not that big of a deal. A lot of people say that's an extremely

00:32:22.800 privileged position and that we should be taking it seriously and that measles and mumps and all of

00:32:28.420 the things that could come back. Polio are not anything to mess around with. And then you have

00:32:34.180 people on the other side saying, you know, our immune systems were probably built to fight these

00:32:38.900 things. I personally don't think that's that great of an argument. But you have people saying there are

00:32:43.320 a lot of consequences that could happen with vaccines and they they don't always work. And if

00:32:49.480 and in fact, the side effects that you can have are so detrimental to your body that it's really not

00:32:55.300 worth the immunity that it might give you to something like measles. OK, there are facts

00:33:01.440 actually backing that up. The CDC really does show both sides of the argument. There's a lot

00:33:07.200 there's a lot of information to be had on both sides, which is why I'm going to wait until I read

00:33:12.780 all of that information before I actually give my full analysis and full take on it. But we can one

00:33:19.580 unite behind liberty. We can two also agree that there is information on both sides.

00:33:25.140 And three, what I also want to say is that everyone needs to needs to take a deep breath

00:33:31.500 and a giant chill pill on all of this anti-vaxxers. You guys get the vaccine hesitant, which I think

00:33:39.780 is a completely legitimate stance to have, by the way. A lot of you guys get extremely defensive

00:33:46.780 about being criticized or about being called out or about being questioned at all. And you say,

00:33:53.280 well, I don't want to be seen as crazy. I get that. I would say stop acting crazy. Stop acting

00:33:59.480 crazy. Some of you guys in my messages about this anti-vaccine stuff, guys, you got to take a chill

00:34:06.920 pill. Like you cannot condemn me not being a good enough Christian or not being truly pro-life because

00:34:12.880 I haven't I haven't fully given my full take and full support of the anti-vax movement yet.

00:34:18.640 Like you've got to take a chill pill and recognize that there are legitimate facts and legitimate

00:34:23.480 support for both sides of the argument. And I want to give both sides a fair hearing. Now,

00:34:28.260 for those of you who are anti-vax or vax hesitant, which I totally understand, like I said,

00:34:32.980 who have sent me resources, who have sent me links, who have talked to me about the other side,

00:34:37.100 I so appreciate you. And I respect your position and think that we can have a wonderful debate and

00:34:43.620 discussion about it. But I don't need my pro-life or faith credentials questioned because I haven't

00:34:50.420 fully agreed with you on this subject. And so if we are going to have a productive dialogue about

00:34:55.760 vaccines, which I think would be extremely helpful and extremely, extremely productive,

00:35:00.260 we've all got to calm down just a little bit. OK, we've all got to calm down. We can attack the

00:35:05.320 character of the other side just because they disagree with us, because you are not the only one

00:35:09.820 with an opinion. OK, I got too many people saying, well, I heard this on Holly's Holistics dot com and

00:35:18.000 therefore it's absolute truth. Maybe not. Maybe not. And some of you also saying, well, I really hope

00:35:24.040 you do your research before you do a whole podcast on this. Well, yeah. What do you think I'm going to

00:35:28.360 do? Do my research after I do my podcast? Of course I'm going to. Of course I'm going to. But I just want

00:35:34.040 to preface it with all of that, that I respect all of the positions. I respect your liberty. I respect

00:35:39.320 your choice. And I respect the fact that there are facts on both sides that need to be reckoned

00:35:44.600 with that need to be talked about. OK, and we have to also make sure that our sourcing is correct

00:35:50.040 and has integrity before we dive into this conversation. And so I am going to probably

00:35:55.260 do a podcast on it. I'm also going to probably invite experts on the podcast from both sides

00:35:59.780 to talk about it. I think there's a lot of nuance in this conversation that needs to be had,

00:36:03.680 and we all probably need to take a step back and look at this logically. So I just wanted to address

00:36:07.540 that because I probably get a message every single day about vaccines. And I just wanted you to know

00:36:13.400 that I hear you, even though I don't always respond. I hear you and we are going to talk about it,

00:36:17.280 but we're going to talk about it in a balanced way. OK, OK. I love you guys. We're going to be

00:36:22.720 back here on Thursday. We're going to talk about the Methodist Church. We're going to talk about

00:36:25.760 a particular Instagram post, and we're going to analyze all of that. And I will see you then.

00:36:31.020 We'll see you then.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - March 05, 2019

Ep 82 ｜ Hypocrisy Is Bipartisan

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