Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 820 ｜ Did Satan Tell ‘Elliot’ Page to Transition？｜ Guest： Lauren Chen

00:00:00.000 Ellen Page, the actress that recently came out as a woman identifying as a man, told the LA Times

00:00:09.000 that the reason she decided to quote unquote transition was because she heard a small voice

00:00:14.980 in her head telling her to do so. Also, the Lululemon CEO is doubling down on the company's

00:00:22.760 decision to fire two employees who simply called the police during a robbery. And in France,

00:00:31.620 they are dealing with a migrant crisis as violent crime from so-called refugees is continuing to 1.00

00:00:39.520 surge. And we've got Lauren Chin, my fellow Blaze TV host here, to break it all down, give us some

00:00:47.680 very, very insightful and interesting analysis for you. We've also got a fun segment at the very end,

00:00:53.220 so stay tuned for that. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to

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00:01:10.240 Lauren, thanks so much for joining us today.

00:01:13.100 Thank you so much for having me. I love your show. So it's so awesome to be here. And it's

00:01:17.580 always a pleasure to be with the Blaze crew.

00:01:20.260 Likewise. And everyone, go check out her very, very, very popular YouTube channel. You have a

00:01:25.860 couple YouTube channels, right?

00:01:27.040 Yes. So my main one is Lauren Chen, which is political social videos. And then Mediaholic is

00:01:33.120 where we talk about movies and pop culture stuff. And then I also do my own videos on the Blaze's

00:01:38.400 YouTube channel or on BlazeTV.com, pseudo-intellectual.

00:01:41.720 Yes. You have a lot of interesting perspectives. I especially love your takes on media and pop

00:01:47.340 culture because I think they're so unique, especially in the conservative space. And you

00:01:51.500 watch movies that I'm like, I've never even heard of that. And you come away with these like very

00:01:56.960 incredible insights. I don't even – do you actually watch all of the movies and all of the content that

00:02:01.960 you then talk about like all the way through?

00:02:03.860 So I try. Like my rule is if I'm talking about something and it's out, I will go watch it. But

00:02:09.920 the thing is sometimes these series especially are very bad and very long. So I admit I have made

00:02:15.100 videos where it's like it's a series and there's 10 episodes. I make it through two episodes. I'll

00:02:20.780 always make a disclaimer that, yeah, I didn't make it through. But I feel like I at least gave it a

00:02:25.040 shot. And hey, if I don't finish it, it's kind of indicative of the quality. Like I am not a hard

00:02:29.680 person to entertain. I watched a almost four-hour long vlog about this random theme park in Utah

00:02:35.180 that I've never been to just because it was – I thought it was interesting. So I'm not like a,

00:02:39.540 you know, a hard person to get a handle of if you want to sit me down and entertain me. So if I

00:02:44.080 can't finish your movie or series that you spent like $100 million on, like that's on you.

00:02:48.620 Yeah. What's – do you have a favorite movie of all time?

00:02:51.680 Oh, that's really hard.

00:02:52.620 I know. It's such – I just didn't know if you like have a go-to answer for that since you talk

00:02:56.760 about this kind of thing. Yeah. I think it depends on my mood. So I mean obviously

00:03:00.280 the Lord of the Rings trilogy is kind of a classic of that. I think the Two Towers is my favorite.

00:03:05.080 But then if I'm in like a more fun mood, I really like Independence Day with Will Smith. That's a

00:03:09.920 really corny answer. But I feel like that was such a great action comedy movie. Like in my like

00:03:14.360 pre-teen era, it has a special place in my heart. Yeah. Okay. And then what about TV?

00:03:19.580 TV. Let me reframe the question. What's like a new kind of TV show that you would recommend

00:03:25.740 this audience watch? So new is really hard. Okay. Because oftentimes I'm not as into new shows,

00:03:33.640 but only Murders in the Building I thought was a really fun – I tried, Lauren.

00:03:38.060 Really? I tried. I did not like it.

00:03:39.660 I thought it was – okay. So I ended up stopping the second season when they introduced this lesbian 1.00

00:03:43.600 romance and I was like, dang it. No. Oh, yeah. I didn't even – I didn't even get to that. I'm

00:03:48.920 sorry. There's a lot of Selena stands out there. I don't have any like personal investment in

00:03:53.800 any beef Selena is in. Are you into true crime? 0.99

00:03:56.180 But she kind of – her role or maybe how she acted in the role, it bothered me.

00:04:02.180 Understandable. She's not really – I feel like her character, no offense to – like

00:04:05.440 she actually could be removed from the series entirely basically. Yeah. 1.00

00:04:09.420 And it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. Yeah.

00:04:11.460 It's more like the two like older men that I understand from a marketing perspective why

00:04:14.980 she's there. Yeah. Me too. And it's really amazing how Steve Martin still looks the way

00:04:21.220 that he does. I feel like he hasn't aged since Father of the Bride. He's looked like

00:04:25.400 that age, like 50s, 60s for at least two decades. Yeah. I'm not sure what's going on there.

00:04:29.840 Which is pretty impressive. And I like Martin Short. Yeah. So, okay. Those are some good

00:04:34.080 things to add to it until you get, I guess, to the second season. Yeah. Which is so – and

00:04:37.420 that's why it's hard to say like a new show that I like because I feel like there's such

00:04:41.700 a push to put politics into shows or movies that nowadays when something new comes out,

00:04:47.760 it's almost always going to be tainted in some way. So, like I've been called a hater

00:04:52.440 for criticizing a lot of shows, but I want to enjoy things. It'd be such an easier time

00:04:56.260 if I liked everything I saw. Of course.

00:04:57.940 But it's hard in this day and age. So, most of the time I just – I rewatch The Office.

00:05:02.220 Yeah. I know. We have to. And honestly, The Office still makes me laugh out loud.

00:05:06.140 Yeah.

00:05:06.460 I don't know how many times – and Parks and Rec. They're very – they're different,

00:05:09.960 but I've learned to appreciate them both in their own uniqueness. And honestly, both of

00:05:14.180 them can still make me laugh. Yeah. Those are great.

00:05:16.860 And the world was better when – the world was better when we could all laugh at something

00:05:20.960 like The Office and all just be kind of equally offended. But it was okay because we didn't

00:05:26.160 take things personally. Right.

00:05:27.740 It's a different time.

00:05:28.620 And it's sad that it's no longer like that because, I mean, they're even starting to

00:05:32.620 remove scenes from The Office or these old shows because by the 2023 lens, they're no longer

00:05:37.780 appropriate. I don't know if you were aware of that. They actually have started to do

00:05:41.300 that specifically to The Office. Have they like on Apple TV or –

00:05:45.800 On Peacock at least. I know. So I don't know if you remember the episode Dwight's Christmas.

00:05:52.700 What happens?

00:05:53.860 So basically Dwight, who if you don't watch The Office, you should. What are you doing?

00:05:57.560 He was in charge of the party.

00:05:58.900 Yeah. He was trying to host a Christmas party and he's kind of this like Amish, Pennsylvania,

00:06:04.140 Dutch type of character who's a farmer. And he talks about this version of Santa Claus that

00:06:08.960 they used to celebrate. And it's kind of meant to be very austere and ridiculous. And that's 0.98

00:06:12.620 the joke.

00:06:13.320 Wow. What does he call it?

00:06:14.920 I can't remember.

00:06:15.960 I can't remember either.

00:06:16.620 But something like that. And there is this one part where this Santa Claus character also

00:06:22.580 has this slave friend that he brings. And in the scene, there is someone who actually

00:06:27.120 dons blackface as part of the like, look how ridiculous and antiquated this tradition is. 0.98

00:06:32.100 So even in context, it's not like this is good or this is what we should do. They're 0.93

00:06:35.840 acknowledging that it's offensive. But that scene has actually been cut now.

00:06:38.920 Yeah. It's kind of like I think it was either episode one or episode two diversity training.

00:06:43.300 Oh, yeah.

00:06:43.700 Where they all have to wear the different identities on their forehead. And they go around and they

00:06:48.320 try to guess like what's on their forehead by asking stereotypes or questions. And someone's

00:06:53.820 like, oh, I might be a bad driver. And they don't want to say that it's Asian.

00:06:59.560 Yeah.

00:06:59.800 Oh, my goodness. But that is like the beauty of The Office. And that was a time when I feel

00:07:04.940 like everyone was more united because you could make fun of yourself. I mean, obviously,

00:07:09.340 there are plenty of things in The Office that a conservative Christian could probably be

00:07:12.860 offended by.

00:07:13.860 Oh, of course.

00:07:14.300 But we're the ones who are always told to just, oh, stop making such a big deal of it.

00:07:18.520 Just tough it out. It's fine. But nowadays, I'm sure that the gay community would be very 1.00

00:07:24.560 sad about the depictions of Oscar. They probably want to take out the line where Kevin says to

00:07:29.860 Oscar, Oscar, have you heard about jail?

00:07:33.660 Love it there.

00:07:34.540 Love it there.

00:07:36.340 No, it's sad.

00:07:37.420 You're right. And I think sometimes we are mistaken in saying that everyone is so easily

00:07:41.520 offended because that's not true. Because like you mentioned, Christians and conservatives,

00:07:44.700 we are expected to just take the offense and not say anything. It's only certain groups that

00:07:49.560 were not supposed to offend, like the LGBT community. Depending on the election cycle,

00:07:54.380 sometimes it's the black community, not always. But it's not a, I guess, equal playing field. And 1.00

00:08:00.000 that's what's really frustrating because, you know, it feels like you're selectively having

00:08:04.320 to walk on eggshells, which is not, I think, conducive to good comedy or good TV shows in general.

00:08:08.980 Well, speaking of movies and pop culture, let's talk about an actress, Ellen Page, who now goes by

00:08:28.680 the name Elliot Page and just wrote a book that came out, I think, called Page Boy. And in an

00:08:37.960 interview with the LA Times, she described what her experience was before she decided that she was

00:08:48.560 actually the opposite sex. And so here's what the LA Times article says. And of course, LA Times uses

00:08:57.380 he, him pronouns for Ellen Page. It says, one night he tried to knock himself out, took his knuckles to

00:09:04.440 his face and pounded over and over until bruises formed. It's really sad. For days after, he sat in

00:09:09.940 a lawn chair on the porch, ashamed his face sore, and then he heard a voice. You don't have to feel

00:09:14.580 this way. It was a small voice, barely discernible, but it kept echoing in his head, a way out. It was

00:09:22.540 as if something in my brain turned around, recalls Page, the agonizing voice saying, no, you're not.

00:09:27.600 No, you can't. Just switched and became a very gentle and loving, oh, maybe I'm trans. Why don't

00:09:32.900 I explore that? Within weeks, he'd scheduled a Zoom consultation with a doctor to discuss top

00:09:38.680 surgery. The procedure was scheduled for November. A month later, he announced to fans on Instagram

00:09:43.040 who have known him since the release of Juno 13 years prior that his name was Elliot. Tell me what

00:09:49.120 you make of that. So I think it's kind of interesting that someone can within weeks schedule a top

00:09:54.780 surgery of questioning whether they are trans because we've been told that it's a very long

00:09:59.280 process. It's very thorough and there's no possible way that someone who isn't actually

00:10:03.600 trans could get the surgery. But even just from that, it kind of seems like that's actually very, 0.55

00:10:07.640 very possible. Such a huge decision, even if it were just regular cosmetic surgery, obviously people

00:10:14.160 can do what they want, but I wouldn't recommend doing that within weeks anyway. And that's not even

00:10:18.960 something as life-changing as changing your gender, at least trying to by getting different 1.00

00:10:24.120 surgeries. So I think right there, that's a red flag. But also, look, when it comes to Ellen Page,

00:10:29.920 this is someone who grew up in Hollywood. She, from a young age, was actually a child actress as

00:10:35.540 well. And so when we hear about all of these, especially child actors who are now adults having

00:10:42.020 these mental health problems, I think it just goes to show how toxic an environment that is.

00:10:46.400 And these are usually the most progressive people. They surround themselves with all the right

00:10:50.040 politics, but they all have these problems. I mean, no one can stay married. There's addiction,

00:10:55.040 like mental health issues, like transgenderism. And I think it's a red flag just in general. 1.00

00:10:59.440 Like if your principles and your ideology, it's all so good. Why are you all having such problems

00:11:05.680 navigating life? No one's perfect. No lifestyle, I think, is that easy to keep to. But Hollywood,

00:11:12.080 this liberal elite lifestyle especially, seems to have a lot of baggage attached to it.

00:11:16.320 And Hollywood and Washington, D.C. Yes. Just, oh my goodness. Cesspools, cesspools. So yeah,

00:11:23.040 Ellen Page, she was first a lesbian, then married a woman. Now she's trans. This just seems like 0.66

00:11:30.120 someone who's having a really tough time mentally. And I think the last thing that she actually needs

00:11:34.980 is people being like, sure, you're trans, whatever, gay, then okay, surgeries, go for it. You're brave,

00:11:41.180 stunning. I think she actually needs more help than she's getting, but in a very different way.

00:11:46.060 I don't think the answer to her mental health problems are these new labels or new lifestyles.

00:11:50.640 I think she actually needs someone to show her some guidance and maybe even some spiritual guidance

00:11:55.220 as well, because it seems like she's only going deeper and deeper into, I mean, a pit of, I would

00:12:00.440 say, self-destructive behavior. Yeah. And it's really sad. I mean, this description of when she

00:12:06.020 figured out that, or she says that she figured out that she was transgender. She heard like this,

00:12:12.720 basically this still small voice after she had tried to harm her body. And so obviously there

00:12:19.600 was something else going on psychologically there, as you pointed out. And I hear this a lot,

00:12:25.240 especially from detransitioners who say, you know, at the time, no one questioned why I wanted to get 0.71

00:12:31.240 these surgeries or why I wanted to go on cross-sex hormones. But the truth was I was depressed.

00:12:35.720 I was bipolar. I had an eating disorder. Or a lot of times, especially with these girls who tried

00:12:41.700 to transition, they had a history of, you know, sexual violence that they didn't want to open up

00:12:46.940 about. I don't know if that's true of Ellen Page or if she's talked about that, but I hear that a lot

00:12:52.200 from these detransitioners. And because it's politically incorrect to try to pump the brakes, 0.99

00:12:57.160 these doctors just sign off on it and say, yeah, go for it. Mutilate your body. And you know,

00:13:05.500 for a period of time, these girls who go on testosterone, they do feel better because 0.97

00:13:10.040 testosterone makes you feel good. It can kind of assuage for a little bit. Those feelings of

00:13:14.500 depression and anxiety can make you feel better about your body because you're getting stronger.

00:13:19.400 Your voice is getting deeper. And so it's this false confidence. But I totally agree with you.

00:13:23.800 I think it is a mask that is not going to last long. And at the end of the day, when she's still

00:13:29.660 depressed, when she's still anxious, she's going to blame it on the fact that, you know, not enough

00:13:34.460 people really accept her as a man. No, definitely. And I think in that story, just the part that you

00:13:39.720 read out, it's kind of interesting how she talks about self-harm. And then a paragraph or so later says,

00:13:44.460 oh, yeah, and I'm scheduling my top surgery. It's like, well, is that not just another form of self-harm

00:13:50.340 that you're doing, but this time with the consent of the medical or the encouragement of the medical

00:13:54.700 community? So it's just, it's upsetting. And I know a lot of people don't like Ellen Page because

00:13:59.320 of her politics. She's very vocally, very progressive. But I think ultimately we should

00:14:04.080 all be praying for and have empathy for someone who, if nothing else, is going through mental health

00:14:08.920 troubles. Yeah, I think so too. And I mean, I just have to point out as a Christian, like the existence

00:14:16.240 of spiritual warfare. And all of us have, you know, I mean, it's kind of a cartoon depiction

00:14:22.500 that is not really theologically correct, but the angel on one shoulder, the devil on one shoulder

00:14:27.640 that we saw, you know, a Bugs Bunny or whatever it was 50 years ago. And one side is telling you to

00:14:34.100 do the bad thing. The other side is telling you to do the good thing. And while that's not

00:14:38.640 necessarily the accurate depiction of what spiritual warfare is, it still is a true concept

00:14:46.200 that there is a fight over souls. There is a fight over hearts. There is a fight over bodies

00:14:51.840 that Satan hates your soul. He hates your heart. He hates your body. He hates that you're made in the

00:14:56.180 image of God. And he likes this confusion and chaos and self-mutilation. So when she says that she

00:15:02.200 hears a voice that says, you are something that you're not, and this will fix your problems,

00:15:08.800 I mean, it's really not that different than what Satan said to Eve in the garden that you can be

00:15:14.000 like God. Did God really say? You can have power like God. And that's basically what this whole

00:15:19.580 self-identity movement is. You can be like God. And I just think that they realized all too late that

00:15:26.100 it was a lie from the get-go. Right. And this, I mean, you wrote an entire book about how it's,

00:15:31.740 you know, trying to trust in yourself, follow your own heart, do what makes you happy. It's not

00:15:36.440 actually a recipe for joy or meaning in life. But I think ultimately people like Ellen Page,

00:15:43.160 that's throughout they're going through like, oh, I like my whims lead me toward this. Therefore,

00:15:46.880 it must be good. It must be true. I mean, unfortunately, we're seeing the results of that.

00:15:52.080 If your own heart was such a dependable compass, then why can you go from someone who's a lesbian in 1.00

00:15:59.080 this relationship? But now trans, it's almost as if our own whims are fleeting and not something 0.98

00:16:04.860 that we should be, I guess, basing moral truths off of. Yeah. Gosh. And just everything that you

00:16:11.340 just said times a thousand for kids. Yes. Because if we as adults, we have fully formed frontal lobes

00:16:17.380 and we can't follow our hearts. They're still desperately sick, as Jeremiah 17, 9 says. The fact

00:16:22.940 that we're pushing this on kids and we're just saying, follow your heart, follow your mind. I mean,

00:16:27.420 they're babies. They don't even have the capacity to think about what's good for me.

00:16:33.660 And what's so something about Ellen Page that I do find very disturbing is that she's been wearing

00:16:38.260 the shirt that says protect trans kids. Of course, this falls in line with her liberal politics. She's

00:16:43.120 also very vocally against states like Tennessee or Texas that are trying to say, hey, you know what,

00:16:48.320 if you're a child, probably shouldn't be taking all of these drugs or getting surgeries to, you know,

00:16:52.920 permanently mutilate your bodies. And so that is kind of that's that's pretty disturbing. And I

00:16:58.800 think it speaks to how warped her sense of morality is. And, you know, this is something that I would

00:17:06.020 love to say is just Hollywood. It's actually someone like Ellen Page saying, yes, mutilate the 1.00

00:17:10.520 kids, hormones, surgery, whatever. It's it's sickening to think that they're actually more 0.56

00:17:14.800 accepted in like polite society or definitely corporate society. Like it's controversial to say

00:17:19.580 what we're saying. But saying like being on the Ellen Page side of things like, hey, I've chopped

00:17:23.600 off my breasts and I think kids should be able to do it like that actually nowadays is the correct 0.97

00:17:27.860 position. Yeah, it's just kind of the principle. I talked about it last week to Logan Hall pointed 0.88

00:17:34.440 it out on Twitter that the left rewards their fringes and the right punishes ours. That is so true. 0.97

00:17:41.040 I can't believe Logan Paul said that. Did I say Logan Paul? I said Logan Hall.

00:17:46.500 Oh, Hall. Maybe I did say Logan Paul. I am so surprised. Like, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

00:17:52.480 What if he said something that insightful? Broken clock, I guess. Good for him. That's so funny. Maybe

00:17:56.960 I did say Logan Paul. His slogan probably just misheard it. But yeah, that you're absolutely. He was a

00:18:02.760 conservative commentator and he was talking about like these politicians who fail miserably. Chessa

00:18:07.880 Boudin in San Francisco, Lori Lightfoot in Chicago. And then they go on to have these prestigious and

00:18:14.540 well-paying jobs. Like Stacey Abrams. Fauci. All of these people. You don't have to worry about it.

00:18:21.040 This journalist that I talked about last week, EJ Dixon, who emailed me and was like, I'm going to

00:18:25.220 include you in this article about transphobia, literally has a history of the earliest article

00:18:30.740 I could find was 2014, where she said that people should resist their knee-jerk reactions to adults

00:18:37.640 having sex with children. And so she is just outspoken. She defended cuties. She calls like

00:18:42.780 concerns about child sex trafficking, like QAnon conspiracy theories. But she's a senior writer at

00:18:46.980 Rolling Stone and she's been writing this stuff for at least a decade. But she's writing an article

00:18:51.440 about how people like you and I are extreme because we just say, yeah, I men can't actually

00:18:57.820 become women. Yeah. And that that is that that's as much a combination condemnation of the right as it

00:19:04.240 is the left, because I was talking with my husband about this. I feel like on the right, you're just

00:19:09.280 you're actually more likely to get canceled even by your own sides by being too Christian or too 0.86

00:19:14.520 conservative than being too liberal, if that makes sense. And I feel like it's it. I understand it

00:19:20.940 in a sense because we're as conservatives, we're already we're so, I guess, marginalized by modern day

00:19:26.980 culture. Like, you know, we don't want to, I guess, have our movement go any be any less popular

00:19:32.900 with the world or with our friends or our employers. But at the same time, you know,

00:19:37.640 if we're only doing things to appease the left, we're going to be disappointed regardless because

00:19:42.120 they will hate us no matter what, unless we full on take on their own values. So, yeah,

00:19:46.680 that's something that I've been frustrated with sometimes.

00:19:48.540 So tell me if you think that this really happened. So Ellen Page also said it happened to be on the

00:20:07.860 same day that her book was coming out. That's crazy. I know. It's so crazy that she says that

00:20:16.380 she was standing on a corner in West Hollywood outside the Pink Dot convenience store when an

00:20:21.260 angry stranger allegedly approached her shouting obscenities. I'm going to effing gay bash you. 1.00

00:20:27.660 F.A. The, you know, F.A.G. Page ran toward the store in fear. Employees at the store escorted 1.00

00:20:35.720 Page into the shop, but the man allegedly followed her and stood at the store's doorway reportedly

00:20:41.980 yelling, this is why I need a gun. Do you think that that happened?

00:20:47.500 So if Ellen Page had just said, I was almost accosted by a crazy homeless man in L.A.,

00:20:53.600 I would believe it. Yeah. Because it's L.A. But she seems to be trying to say, like,

00:20:57.740 this is how dangerous it is to be openly queer in society. So the reason why I just I question this 1.00

00:21:04.560 is because from what I can tell, I've been trying to look. There have been no Pink Dot employees that 1.00

00:21:09.100 have come forward and said, yeah, you know, this happened. There's been no police reports filed.

00:21:13.460 And obviously what happened was illegal. You can't threaten someone. You can't harass someone like

00:21:17.080 that. So I kind of question that. But also, Ellen Page, even before her transition, I'm sorry,

00:21:25.980 but she never looked anything other than a woman, even after her transition, still kind of just looks

00:21:31.520 like. So the idea that she would be targeted like that is questionable to me. It kind of to me,

00:21:38.680 and I'm not accusing anyone of anything for legal reasons, but it kind of reminds me of the Jesse

00:21:43.460 Smollett story where he was so narcissistic. He assumed everybody would know. So up in his own

00:21:47.760 business, he assumed that everyone would believe that, oh, obviously, he would be recognized as

00:21:51.820 the person from that TV show. It's like I had never watched it. I don't think most people had.

00:21:56.420 I think Ellen Page is so wrapped up in her own gender identity. She just walks around thinking, 1.00

00:22:00.980 like, obviously, I'm a queer person. You just look like a middle aged woman with a haircut. 1.00

00:22:04.740 Yeah. So, you know, the fact that she would be just on site identified as queer and targeted for

00:22:09.400 that questionable and also in Hollywood. Right. And I just haven't really heard a lot of people use

00:22:15.320 gay bash as a verb. Yeah, I don't even know really what I'm going to gay bash. Yeah, I don't like 1.00

00:22:22.760 strange. Speaking of Jesse Smollett, we do have a clip of Ellen Page where she was defending him

00:22:30.280 adamantly and saying that his story is obviously true. So here's that. We have a media that's

00:22:36.740 saying it's a debate whether or not what just happened to Jesse Smollett is a hate crime.

00:22:41.340 It's absurd. This isn't a debate.

00:22:46.420 OK, so she took that hook, line and sinker. Of course, now we know that that's not true,

00:22:51.740 that these men were paid to attack him in the polar vortex in Chicago and say, this is

00:22:58.240 MAGA country and put a noose around his neck. And he's so just so strong and valiant that he was

00:23:03.940 able to get away from them. Of course, of course, a very similar story. So in these liberal strongholds,

00:23:09.520 we've got people who are courageous enough to be openly, violently anti-gay. Like you're not even

00:23:17.160 going to find that kind of behavior in most places in the Bible Belt. Right. No, it is

00:23:22.600 suspicious. And I'm not sure if you're familiar with Matt Christensen and his videos, but he kind

00:23:27.020 of does. It's almost a series now just debunking all of these fake hate crimes. And I think thankfully

00:23:31.900 we're at a place in this point in society where, yeah, you can be different and you're not necessarily

00:23:36.620 going to be targeted. But, you know, if you have these progressive policies, it's almost like the

00:23:41.300 demand for hate crimes is outstripping the supply. So we do have people who are fabricating these

00:23:46.240 things. I mean, I hope that it's almost I don't even know what to hope for. Do I hope that she's

00:23:50.380 lying or that society is such a place where, you know, someone would be threatened just for walking

00:23:54.760 down the street? But the timing of it, of her talking about it with her new book release, I think

00:24:00.020 it's understandable that people are skeptical. Yeah, I think so, too. There are a lot of people

00:24:05.720 that are surmising some things behind the scenes. There was a rumor that I saw circulating about like

00:24:11.700 who her personal trainer might be, who is also a personal trainer to other stars, who pushes

00:24:16.060 a lot of like interesting experimental drugs. We don't have verified quite yet if he is connected

00:24:23.200 to Alan Page. So I'm not going to say I'm going to leave it until I can verify that fact. But

00:24:27.800 there's always things going on behind the scenes. I don't even think we fully know the corruption and

00:24:32.260 ugliness and depravity that goes on in Hollywood. Like I said, also Washington, D.C., but that's

00:24:36.960 another thing for another day. I mean, there are conspiracies surrounding Hollywood and things like

00:24:42.020 that that maybe aren't helpful. But to be honest, I think that there is a lot of sickness there that

00:24:47.480 most of the world doesn't know about. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean,

00:24:51.180 these are this is the same industry that protected Weinstein for decades, decades and decades. And we

00:24:56.740 hear people talk about now how it was an open secret, but no one at the time seemed to come

00:25:01.300 forward. How many different child stars need to explain that they were abused by their handlers,

00:25:05.900 by people on set, studio execs? I mean, this the sickness is it basically touches every part of

00:25:12.400 life in Hollywood. It seems like from, you know, marriages being broken, infidelity, drug use,

00:25:19.240 obviously depraved politics. There's no end. And so I'm not really surprised that Hollywood more so

00:25:25.520 than the rest of society has really latched onto the gender thing specifically. And it does seem like

00:25:30.480 Ellen is being enabled. I mean, look at she's on that show, The Umbrella Academy. I watched the first

00:25:35.360 season. It's kind of weird. But she plays a female character on that. But that, you know,

00:25:42.400 she came out as trend. And so what the show did is they also made the character trend so that she

00:25:47.040 can stay on and it can. So it's just like you can see that she's definitely being enabled. And

00:25:51.600 she's definitely getting, I think, a lot more attention when it comes to her gender stuff than 1.00

00:25:55.400 she has for acting in years and years. It's crazy that we're not even allowed to question it because

00:26:00.260 I have seen her hoisted up by all these people, her new book and how this is her authentic

00:26:05.020 self. It's like this is it's always seen as authentic and real. If you do something like

00:26:11.380 come out as gay or come out as bi or come out as trans, we know celebrities never just do stuff

00:26:17.180 for attention like that. They would never do that. Or there can't be any other factors into why like

00:26:23.080 playing into why you would make this big life change. But then when you have people like I've

00:26:26.600 had people on my show who say, you know, I lived a gay lifestyle and then I became a Christian. And

00:26:31.360 some of those people still like have the same feelings, but they've repented and they live a

00:26:35.360 life in accordance to like God's word. And then some people like I had a professor on the other

00:26:40.280 day. She was a queer theorist professor. She was in a long term lesbian relationship. And then she 1.00

00:26:45.600 became a Christian leader. She got married and and all of that are people who detransition and they 1.00

00:26:50.500 realize it was never real. Those people by the same ones who say everyone should be themselves and we

00:26:55.820 should accept everyone as they are. Speak your truth. Yeah. They don't see those people as authentic.

00:26:59.640 They see those people as grifters and those people doing things for attention and those

00:27:03.560 people living a lie. It's only authentic to change your life in one direction, but never the other.

00:27:08.780 Right. Because it's almost like it's not actual about actually about authenticity. It's just about

00:27:12.540 undermining societal norms like heteronormativity, Christian marriages and things like that.

00:27:17.540 That's why they they only encourage things to go one way when they see it as useful for

00:27:22.480 subverting anything they see as traditional or conservative.

00:27:25.980 Yeah. Yeah. OK, I haven't talked about this yet. I wanted to discuss this Lululemon story

00:27:33.360 that I think that you've talked about that these women, they OK, so let me tell people

00:27:39.180 in case that they in case they don't know. So two female employees say they were fired from a 1.00

00:27:43.420 Georgia store branch of Lululemon for confronting store robbers, thieves and calling local law enforcement

00:27:50.020 on them. The incident occurred earlier in May when Jennifer Ferguson and another woman, 1.00

00:27:55.600 they called the police on a group of men wearing face coverings, entering the store in broad daylight,

00:28:01.220 stealing about seven thousand dollars worth of clothing.

00:28:05.140 They were fired from Lululemon over a Zoom call for violating corporate policy and they apparently

00:28:15.660 are not supposed to be calling the police. And I've heard different things from Lululemon saying,

00:28:25.340 oh, no, that's not really why they got fired. Didn't have to do with that. But then the CEO

00:28:30.180 of Lululemon said, well, it's just merchandise. It's just merchandise. So it doesn't need it doesn't

00:28:37.280 solicit a call to law enforcement. What do you think about all this? What's your assessment?

00:28:42.680 So this is this is something that we've been seeing increasingly in like big cities where we have

00:28:48.440 shoplifting run amok. And it's not just shoplifting. It kind of goes hand in hand with different crimes.

00:28:53.460 But I'm sure you guys have seen if you're on social media, all that footage of these department

00:28:57.320 stores being looted, Nike's and just people running. It's almost like it's the Wild West.

00:29:02.460 There are no laws. It's you do whatever. So you can actually see the video that you're talking about

00:29:06.480 online. These women, they're just one of them is filming and they're basically just saying, 0.99

00:29:11.800 stop, you can't you can't do this. Stop. And obviously the thieves are going at it now.

00:29:16.400 Due to that footage and the fact that they called the cops, the the thieves were actually arrested

00:29:21.540 and charged the next day. Good.

00:29:24.240 And so for Lululemon to say like, oh, no, it's it's it's it's just merchandise.

00:29:29.540 I mean, it's easy for the CEO to say that. But I think if you're put yourself in these women's 0.97

00:29:35.060 shoes, like this is your community. This is where you live. Right. It's not just you're

00:29:39.280 going through something I would say pretty traumatic at work. You're being stolen from at work.

00:29:43.980 I would say that's traumatic. But these are this is a criminal element in your neighborhood.

00:29:48.540 It's it doesn't just end with theft. You know, all of these things go hand in hand. I mean,

00:29:53.760 we had a story. I think it was in San Francisco where a security guard was trying to stop a thief

00:29:59.320 who then threatened him with a knife. And so that ended up escalating. And I think she was shot.

00:30:04.380 But it's like it doesn't it doesn't end with theft. Right. It's almost as if people who are willing

00:30:09.060 to break one law are willing to break another. And these different companies, they're trying to seem

00:30:13.560 progressive, I think, by saying like, oh, no, we we don't call cops. But I think that shows a lack of

00:30:20.020 understanding for the employees that basically they're they're kind of they're putting in a

00:30:23.820 really hard situation. It's not the CEO that's basically being, you know, held up like that.

00:30:29.160 I think you probably take take a different stance if he was the one who was actually getting robbed.

00:30:33.580 So it's very discouraging. And like as as a suburban mom, you know, Lululemon, that should be my thing.

00:30:40.400 But I just can't support brands that do this now. It's the same with the Target thing.

00:30:44.660 I know. Quintavious, Gooch, Braylon, Shivers, Bayo, Allen were all arrested and charged with felony

00:30:50.900 robbery. Thanks to these girls, thanks to these women, I should say, doing the right thing. 1.00

00:30:56.580 And, you know, the CEO said on MSNBC or sorry, on CNBC that it's only merchandise. But the reason that

00:31:02.940 they have a no zero tolerance policy when it comes to intervening with a robbery is because

00:31:08.080 they care about the safety of our team, of our guests, front and center. So I think that's strange

00:31:14.880 because we're told from an early age, especially as girls, if you're ever scared, you need to and

00:31:21.860 you're by yourself, call the police, call 911. So I'm sure that they were scared for their imminent

00:31:27.880 safety. These are a bunch of men, I think armed men, or even if they couldn't see the guns,

00:31:32.940 my guess would be that they're armed. So yeah, they probably weren't thinking about the merchandise

00:31:38.220 either. They were probably thinking about themselves, because of course, that's what you do.

00:31:43.700 And I just think in so many situations today, whether it's a situation like this,

00:31:48.880 where you're not supposed to call the police. I also saw that Oxfam, which is a big organization,

00:31:55.640 that they recently that it was uncovered that part of their training for the people who work for them

00:32:02.340 is that white women centered feminism is actually causing the epidemic of sexual assault and that 1.00

00:32:10.220 white woman tears are weaponized in a way that actually harms the black and brown perpetrators 1.00

00:32:18.800 of rape. And I'm just seeing this trend. I'm seeing this trend of basically telling women 0.99

00:32:25.600 that you need to suppress your instincts, suppress that like natural feeling that we have inside of

00:32:32.640 like, I'm unsafe. I feel dangerous. I do not want a man in the bathroom next to me. I don't want to

00:32:38.700 change in front of a man in a locker room. And when we raise our voices, which just a couple of years

00:32:43.700 ago in the Me Too movement, we were told to do, we're told, hush, be quiet. No more white woman 1.00

00:32:49.680 tears. No more putting these marginalized communities, whether it's the trans community

00:32:53.720 or whether they would say it's black and brown people at risk. Stop sounding the alarm. Just be

00:32:59.220 quiet and take it. That's a trend that I'm seeing a lot right now. You're so right. We just saw it on a

00:33:05.120 national level with the whole city bike fiasco. Yes. I mean, this six month pregnant woman 1.00

00:33:10.040 got into what should have just been a stupid petty misunderstanding or conflict with some 0.99

00:33:16.960 teens about a city rental bike. It shouldn't have been national news by any means, but it blew up 0.99

00:33:22.340 because she was accused of weaponizing her white woman tears and fake crying. And there were actually

00:33:27.740 people who were pushing the idea that the six month pregnant woman came up to a group of young men

00:33:34.420 or teens and then just decided to steal their bike or steal something from them. A scenario that I'm

00:33:39.060 pretty sure race aside has never happened in the history of anything, right? A six month pregnant 1.00

00:33:44.500 woman going up to a group of like five men and trying to- As the aggressor. Right. Yeah. No, 0.99

00:33:49.160 I'm sorry. But you had so many people, especially on the progressive side saying this happens all the

00:33:54.680 time. Like this is just a flashpoint of what black and brown people face every day because you have 0.99

00:33:59.660 these white Karens who are trying to play the victim. And it's like, clearly this is just resentment 0.85

00:34:04.300 against white women being taken out on this, you know, that was a poor nurse or a doctor's aide or 1.00

00:34:11.780 something like that. She was a nurse and she ended up at least temporarily getting suspended from her 1.00

00:34:16.660 position because she was wearing her scrubs, probably going home from work. And I guess I had the name of

00:34:20.700 the hospital on there. And with these city bike things, in case people don't know, you like have an app

00:34:26.740 and you rent the bike and you put your payment information and then that unlocks the bike from

00:34:32.860 the bike rack. And then, you know, you ride it to wherever you need to go and you can put it on the

00:34:37.480 bike rack there. She was trying to take the bike out. This dude, this teenager comes up and is like,

00:34:43.580 no, this is mine. And all the video shows is them going back and forth on it. And she's obviously 0.95

00:34:49.720 getting, she was a lot more like, actually, like, I don't want to say aggressive, but a lot braver than I

00:34:56.220 would have been. I think I would have walked away a lot more quickly than that. Maybe she was raised 0.98

00:35:00.680 in New York and she was like, this is just what I do. I would have walked away a lot more quickly,

00:35:04.660 but she is probably like ready to get home. Who knows? Maybe she has kids at home and she's like, 0.98

00:35:09.200 no, I'm going to get home. I just paid for this bike. And, but for some reason online, everyone was

00:35:15.120 like, oh no, this is a white woman. As you said, stealing from this young black man, this is just how it 0.99

00:35:20.720 goes. And, uh, it turned out like that we, uh, she was able to show the receipts. She had paid for 0.82

00:35:27.700 it. She did rent the bike. Maybe it was a genuine misunderstanding, or maybe this group of teens

00:35:33.180 thought it would be funny to try to steal a bike from a vulnerable, isolated pregnant woman. Either 1.00

00:35:39.460 of those cases are far more likely than a pregnant woman coming up and trying to steal a bike from a 0.99

00:35:46.240 man. Right. Not just a man, a group of men that were like, you know, he had been several of his

00:35:50.240 friends. So it was, no, that was crazy. And it's kind of interesting how with the Lululemon thing

00:35:55.600 and just in general, we hear a lot of attacking like the concept of gentrification and like

00:36:00.460 prioritizing white safety and things like that. And I think the issue there is that, yeah,

00:36:06.220 you know, white women are still women, but ultimately I think a lot of suburban moms, especially 1.00

00:36:10.180 we, we want things like safety and law and order. And it's all fun to be like, oh yeah,

00:36:14.460 I'm open-minded. But I think a lot of suburban women, when it comes to things like crime, 1.00

00:36:19.120 they're actually not that interested in saying like, oh, whatever goes, especially when you have

00:36:22.720 kids in schools. And we also saw suburban mom come out in droves when, you know, something like the 0.97

00:36:27.040 Virginia election and the very strong supporters of school choice. So I think, you know, all of these

00:36:31.180 little issues, the progressive movement are picking up on like, oh, well, maybe these suburban moms 1.00

00:36:35.700 aren't our, our, our close allies. And therefore basically they're willing to throw you under the bus

00:36:41.420 because, oh wait, we have more marginalized people that we should be caring about. And

00:36:45.080 therefore you should just shut up. 0.96

00:36:46.240 Did you see that viral video that was going around yesterday of that woman who was getting

00:37:03.960 berated by a guy behind the phone? He was filming her, calling her a gentrifier, calling her because

00:37:10.440 this was a white woman that had moved into a neighborhood in New Orleans. And now I will say

00:37:17.180 that this guy's initial complaint, I guess the guy, he's behind the camera, but I think he's black.

00:37:21.640 And so I think he's making the point, all these white people moving in from different parts, 0.60

00:37:25.220 you're gentrifying it. You're making our neighborhood worse because he says he grew up

00:37:28.300 there. He was very rude, calling her, calling her the B word, calling her all kinds of very

00:37:33.080 disrespectful things. She is being calm. I will say his original beef is probably like justified.

00:37:38.220 She apparently had cut off the entire road because she wanted to host a party and he claims that she

00:37:45.560 didn't tell him. So I'm like, yeah, that would be annoying. But then he, you know, takes it to the

00:37:49.920 next level. It's like very, very aggressive towards her and calls her a gentrifier and stuff. 0.86

00:37:56.080 And I guess I'm confused about gentrification because on the one hand, I remember hearing about

00:38:00.780 this in college, that part of where I was was being gentrified and it was so terrible. And I was like,

00:38:05.680 I'm confused because on the one hand you're told when white people, white flight. Yes. That's

00:38:11.780 terrible. Yes. You move in somewhere, it's gentrification. You move out of somewhere,

00:38:16.120 it's white flight. Yeah. And if it's white flight and then you don't have as, you know,

00:38:19.900 that you don't have a Trader Joe's anymore or you don't have the Walgreens open or whatever it is.

00:38:24.400 And then, you know, you're accused of being racist in that way. So I'm confused what white people

00:38:28.960 are supposed to do and where they're supposed to go. Well, they're just, they're supposed to just not

00:38:32.540 move anywhere and give all their money to social justice causes. And that's the thing. It's like,

00:38:36.880 it's basically, it's not what white people are doing. It's who they are. They just resent the

00:38:41.120 idea of whiteness. I mean, we've seen who knows how many activists at this point come out and say,

00:38:46.480 like, whiteness is the problem. They'll just flat out say it. So when we see people complaining about

00:38:50.400 things like gentrification or white flight, yeah, they're like, they're trying to say, oh, it's just

00:38:54.840 what these white people are doing. But ultimately, these people are racist, right? Because, I mean, 0.92

00:38:58.740 if you actually are not a racist, it shouldn't be a big deal whether white people are coming in and

00:39:03.040 moving. And we could talk about rising property costs that affect everybody of different races.

00:39:07.640 And of course, that's a problem. But no, the fact that they are so race obsessed, I think it is

00:39:12.640 down to prejudice, unfortunately. And I think that especially in a lot of these city environments,

00:39:20.360 there are tensions that are growing because we're bombarded in the media just of these stories 0.98

00:39:25.820 nonstop of, you know, for example, white cops killing black people. I saw online there was a, 0.94

00:39:31.160 I mean, take it for what it's worth, but a Twitter space. And there was actually this progressive

00:39:35.620 activist who estimated that like 3 million black people or something per year were killed by cops

00:39:41.420 who are unarmed. And it's like, are you kidding me? But I mean, hey, if you're just going by what

00:39:45.940 the media is showing, maybe you're right. If all you see is news story after news story after news story

00:39:50.940 of, you know, like, oh, a white woman steals a bike from a black man. Oh, this old white man 0.96

00:39:57.000 shoots a kid on his cop. Like the media does highlight these stories. It wouldn't be hard to 0.97

00:40:01.380 basically accept that. Maybe they do. Like maybe white people do. They are just out to get us.

00:40:06.800 They're robbing black people. They're shooting us in the street. But obviously, that's not the case. 1.00

00:40:12.100 And I think until the media started stirring things up, race relations were improving. They'd been

00:40:16.300 improving for generations. So I mean, ultimately, what I'm trying to say is I blame the media.

00:40:21.620 Yeah. Well, ironically, it was also the presidency of Barack Obama and some of the rhetoric that he

00:40:27.420 employed that I think took a lot of things backwards. And the fact of the matter is the

00:40:32.380 sad truth is that it's much more likely for a white person to be a victim of violent crime 0.96

00:40:36.280 perpetrated by a black person than the other way around. Even though black population is very small, 0.97

00:40:41.820 there's a disproportionate amount of violent crime committed there. No one's saying that's good. 0.95

00:40:45.820 No one's saying that's because of some like innate characteristic that's just saying that's just

00:40:50.380 the way it is. And if the media actually portrayed things accurately, I'm not suggesting that they

00:40:55.260 are constantly highlighting the other kinds of crimes either and highlighting the race. But

00:40:59.540 when you only highlight race when it's a white person committing violence against a black person

00:41:04.620 and never highlight the race when it's the other direction, like you said, of course, people are going

00:41:09.480 to get the wrong impression. The true answer is that I think it's about two dozen on average

00:41:15.140 unarmed black men that are killed by the police every year, which is a lower number than a white arm 0.98

00:41:20.340 or the white unarmed men killed by the police. And so, yeah, it's a huge gap between reality and

00:41:27.020 perception because of a lot of the things that were just told.

00:41:29.980 Right. And what's really frustrating is that Elon Musk recently encountered this.

00:41:34.280 You can't even explain why the media coverage is biased by bringing up crime statistics saying,

00:41:39.380 actually, the media representation is not reflective of reality because then you get called

00:41:44.300 racist for talking about those crime statistics. But it's like, hang on, we can't even debunk

00:41:48.620 media lies or progressive bias without then being also called racist.

00:41:53.260 Obviously.

00:41:53.940 And I mean, at this point, who cares about being called racist by the left? I think they overplayed

00:41:58.660 that hand back in 2016. But that is still their go to. And it's really frustrating. And I think

00:42:03.500 this is one of the reasons why a lot of people are just so hesitant to trust anything

00:42:06.720 the media says. And it shouldn't be that way. Like, you should be able to trust a media or at

00:42:10.860 least think that they're not really lying to you outright. But in this day and age when

00:42:14.900 most journalists are also activists, like we have to question it.

00:42:18.780 Yeah. And just and just to clarify that statistic that I said, I'm not saying that like the police

00:42:23.580 never do anything wrong or that like all police shootings are justified. I certainly don't think

00:42:28.740 that whether it's like a white or a black victim. But I will say that like where I get that 0.93

00:42:33.420 number is from the Washington Post database of police shootings. And I will also say that

00:42:38.080 their definition of unarmed is very sketchy. Unarmed doesn't always mean unjustified. A

00:42:42.820 person could be trying to run over a cop with a car.

00:42:45.980 I've seen that.

00:42:46.960 Yes.

00:42:47.640 Sean Fitzgerald, actual justice warrior, talks about that, how sometimes unarmed actually means

00:42:51.480 they were trying to commit a hit and run or something like trying to run someone over or

00:42:55.240 a cop over, but they got shot. But they'll still count that as being unarmed.

00:42:58.120 Or they were grabbing for a gun or something like that. So even that number 24 unarmed

00:43:04.000 doesn't necessarily mean 24 unjustified.

00:43:07.420 Right.

00:43:07.780 So anyway, there's yeah, there's a lot. There's always stories behind the steps.

00:43:11.140 Yeah. I'll just say one more thing because I've I've been, you know, anytime I bring up

00:43:15.180 something with police shootings and I'll have people say like, oh, well, if you're if you

00:43:19.400 acknowledge that the police are sometimes wrong, like then why are you against stuff like BLM?

00:43:23.580 And it's like because I don't think you can solve a problem without correctly articulating

00:43:27.800 it. Right. So there's a difference between saying, of course, police should have

00:43:30.800 accountability. Let's have more body cams. Let's have really good training. Let's have

00:43:34.520 high standards so that you don't have. I think it was in Memphis. Actually, there were some

00:43:38.400 cops that honestly should not have been cops in the first place because they did not meet

00:43:42.480 standards, but standards were lowered for basically political reasons. They were having

00:43:45.880 trouble recruiting. But there's a big difference between solving a problem of more

00:43:49.820 accountability and better resources, better training, better equipment versus systemic

00:43:54.640 racism. So we can all agree that, yeah, police should be held to a high standard, maybe do

00:44:00.180 better. But if if we're, you know, peddling, it's because they're all racist or because

00:44:04.720 capitalism or white supremacy, then no, we do need to go back to the drawing board and

00:44:09.280 explain specifically what is the problem. Otherwise, we're not going to be able to fix

00:44:12.540 it. Totally. Another problem that I don't know that we're able to fix because so many

00:44:17.200 people are scared to talk about it is mass migration, especially in Europe. I saw you

00:44:22.740 comment on this story and we'll play the thought. It's really, really sad. There's

00:44:27.460 apparently a Syrian, quote unquote, refugee who stabbed four young children this week

00:44:35.400 between the ages of one and three at a playground in a park that's a city in the

00:44:41.840 French Alps. I'm not sure. I'm not sure exactly how to pronounce it, but we've got a

00:44:45.620 video of him trying to do that.

00:45:02.460 Yeah, so very, very frightening. Now, if you look at the media coverage of this, it's

00:45:08.040 conveniently missing from a large portion of the reporting that this person is a Syrian

00:45:12.980 refugee. You commented, this is just called cultural enrichment by the, quote unquote,

00:45:17.820 diversity is our strength crowd. So tell us what you mean by that.

00:45:21.660 So this is something I've been very vocal on for years and years, and I've gotten a lot

00:45:25.720 of flack. But, you know, there are a lot of Western countries right now that when it comes

00:45:30.480 to refugees, they're basically taking an open border approach. It's like, oh, you know,

00:45:36.180 you're claiming asylum? Sure, come in, whatever. And as someone who has been through the legal

00:45:40.720 immigration process, I know that if you if you come legally to, for example, the United

00:45:45.280 States, you have to do basically a criminal background check. You have to go to your own

00:45:50.020 country's police force or whatever it is, and you can't have a criminal record, which is

00:45:54.820 very understandable. There's a lot of hoops you need to jump through. But when you are claiming

00:45:59.540 asylum or you want refugee status, basically little to none of that applies. So what happens

00:46:07.040 is that there are definitely people able who are coming through to different countries,

00:46:11.600 Canada, the United States, Europe seeing it a lot, where they frankly, they are criminals

00:46:17.320 or they do have mental health problems and you aren't able to vet them because, you know,

00:46:22.120 oftentimes if a country is somewhere where you can claim asylum from, they don't have the

00:46:26.840 infrastructure to be able to verify whether their own citizens are criminals or not. And that's

00:46:31.580 just I mean, that's just fact. And never mind, that's assuming that if people are even

00:46:34.700 coming with papers, which oftentimes, you know, Lauren Southern did a documentary about 1.00

00:46:38.480 this, these people will be throwing away their papers because they don't actually want to

00:46:42.760 be identified because there's a chance that, hey, maybe they shouldn't actually qualify for

00:46:46.440 asylum. There are a lot of issues with the way that migration is happening toward Western

00:46:51.880 countries. We are not allowed to talk about it, though, because we are called racist or we

00:46:55.720 are called xenophobic. If you look at Europeans, especially there, you know, new arrivals are 1.00

00:47:01.520 disproportionately more responsible for crime than native born population. This is something 1.00

00:47:06.880 that is affecting a lot of people's lives. But again, it's not politically expedient to

00:47:11.540 talk about. So no one's mentioning anything about it. But, you know, France, especially there's

00:47:16.540 hate crimes against Christians that are now happening. There have been terror attacks in

00:47:20.420 different European countries where the person has come into the country and not been vetted and

00:47:26.180 still nothing nothing is being done. So it's it's frustrating. There is this girl and this is a

00:47:31.160 recent story. It was towards the end of last year. I'm sure you remember this 12 year old girl in

00:47:35.140 Paris who was body was found inside a plastic trunk. She was murdered by a group of migrants of 1.00

00:47:43.220 refugees. And she was brutal. I mean, all murder is brutal, obviously. But this was especially just 0.98

00:47:50.280 heinous. And here's how NBC reports this gruesome killing of 12 year old girl shocks France and

00:47:55.640 sparks far right backlash. So that had to make it into the headline. And half of the story is about

00:48:01.020 how conservatives are using this as some kind of anti-immigration push, as if that's completely

00:48:06.080 illogical, as if it's worse. And this is what they do. It's worse to be racist than it is to say,

00:48:13.100 hey, I think this is a problem. We should probably protect our French children. She's not the first or even 1.00

00:48:18.440 close to the only young woman who has been brutally murdered by these migrants. And unfortunately, 1.00

00:48:24.300 this is a pattern. This is according to an article in The Spectator. In Time magazine,

00:48:31.020 the most livable city in France, they said in 2004 is the city of Nantes. I think you pronounce it

00:48:37.280 Nantes. It's N-A-N-T-E-S. But now it is considered more violent than Bogota, Colombia. The cases of rape

00:48:45.560 in the city doubled from 2016 to 2021, the period when its socialist mayor took pride in welcoming

00:48:50.640 migrants into the city, 41% of people in the city that are arrested for anything are foreign.

00:48:59.620 And again, this is not to say that these migrants are innately worse than people who live in other 0.69

00:49:05.120 areas. I don't know if it's culture. I don't know what it is. Whatever the factor is, the fact of the

00:49:10.440 matter is, is that whether it's Sweden, whatever different parts of Europe, they are taking the

00:49:14.680 lion's share of the crime, and in particular, the sexually violent crime. And we're just not allowed

00:49:20.560 to say anything about it. Right. And I think, look at it this way. I think if you are, for example,

00:49:26.360 a young single woman, would you want to go backpacking in Syria alone? Why not? Oh, because 0.98

00:49:32.460 it's more dangerous. Okay. Why is it more dangerous, though? Where exactly does that crime come from?

00:49:37.300 It's the you're afraid of the other people there. Right. And that's not to say that every Syrian by

00:49:42.280 no means, but obviously there's there's a higher crime rate. What would happen if we take that same

00:49:48.120 population and then we put it in, I don't know, El Paso, Texas? Would we expect different results

00:49:53.760 because of magic dirt? Like, you know, why? Why exactly would we expect different results? And you

00:50:00.280 say, but hang on, you just said not all Syrians, right? Not all Syrians. So maybe if we do let in

00:50:04.400 someone, we should be able to check who they are. Right. No matter where they come from.

00:50:08.760 No matter where they come from. Yeah. And that's that's a pretty simple thing. Yeah. Hashtag

00:50:12.780 not all immigrants, not all refugees. But then why can't we check to see which ones? Because like 1.00

00:50:18.600 you said, if if it's not all of them, then yeah, vetting shouldn't be shouldn't be a problem. It

00:50:24.000 shouldn't be an issue. And I mean, obviously, that's not to say that borders should just be open as long

00:50:28.160 as you're not a criminal because there's economic and cultural things there. But if we could at least say,

00:50:32.560 hey, let's stop letting in people unvetted and the criminals, that's at least a little bit better 1.00

00:50:37.160 than what's going on right now. And that should be bare minimum. Right. You would you would think so.

00:50:41.800 And, you know, this is obviously a big problem in Europe, but this is happening in southern border

00:50:46.220 as well in the United States. And it actually happens in Canada, too. But the you know, Canada

00:50:52.140 is not really next to any any borders of developing nations. But there are actually migrants that come

00:50:59.020 through the US and then keep going to Canada because we have a very strong social safety net

00:51:03.300 in Canada. But it's this is a problem that's affecting so many different Western countries.

00:51:08.120 And I think, you know, if leftist journalists especially are worried about hashtag the far

00:51:13.040 right, then they should be at the forefront of trying to make sure that people who come in are

00:51:18.580 safe. Because guess what? If you actually are someone on the far right, then you do like stories like

00:51:23.560 this. Yeah. And I think, you know, if I if I look at some of the the far right commenters and

00:51:28.480 profiles on social media that this is the type of thing that they are warning about. So wouldn't

00:51:33.980 you want to, I guess, assuage their exactly take take the wind out of their sails and say like,

00:51:39.660 no, no, it's you know, we don't have this problem because we're solving it. We don't need to go as far

00:51:44.260 right as you guys are because we can fix it just with the center. But they don't see it as a problem,

00:51:48.980 though. They don't see it as a problem, because, again, it goes back to like, they're just crazy 0.99

00:51:55.400 ideas about whiteness and white privilege is that you're like weaponizing fear. And that I've even

00:52:03.640 heard some of these activists say safety shouldn't necessarily be your priority. Safety is a privilege

00:52:09.640 when it comes to migration, but not COVID, right? Yeah, exactly. Or when it comes to crime that might

00:52:14.840 happen to be committed by someone who is black or brown, you should think about the harm 1.00

00:52:18.860 that you're causing before you call the police. But so this is an uncomfortable story. In the 0.90

00:52:24.300 Daily Mail, this was reported last July. The title said the title of the article is migrant who raped 0.52

00:52:30.100 a boy in France says it is normal in his home country. He's an Afghan migrant to France. He moved

00:52:36.220 to northern France in 2018. He was sentenced, thankfully, to 15 years in jail. But here's what he

00:52:41.700 said. His statement was, in my country, it is normal to have sexual relations with young boys because

00:52:47.420 women are inaccessible. When I arrived in France, I did not know your laws. But since then, I learned 1.00

00:52:52.680 that it was prohibited. So that's the thing that we're not supposed to know. Oopsie, didn't know the

00:52:57.700 law. Yeah. You're not supposed to talk about cultural differences at all, though. No, you can. And

00:53:03.340 actually, there's been debates about whether migrants, aside from checking things like criminal

00:53:08.740 background, they should also be subject to, I guess, those kind of cultural compatibility

00:53:12.480 tests. And leftists, at least in places like the UK, Canada, and Australia, have vehemently

00:53:19.040 opposed such a concept. Because obviously, moral relativism, all cultures are beautiful. We can't

00:53:25.280 expect people who come to live in our countries to have our same values. Why would we even want that?

00:53:29.740 Because then we would be missing out on the diversity. It's like, this is a pretty low bar to

00:53:33.760 say, like, hey, actually, you shouldn't rape anybody, like, let alone children. And unfortunately,

00:53:39.800 like, even saying that perhaps different cultures might have more of a tolerance to that,

00:53:44.260 that is also considered a right-wing talking point.

00:53:59.040 All right. We've been through the kind of depressing stuff, although I hope that the insight was at least

00:54:04.000 encouraging to people. We covered a lot of ground in the past 50 or so minutes. But now we're going to

00:54:09.780 do something that's kind of fun. So I was given would-you-rathers. I had not looked at these yet.

00:54:13.660 Okay.

00:54:14.060 So I was given these would-you-rathers. And so we have to answer them as honestly as we can.

00:54:20.640 Okay. Would you rather be Dylan Mulvaney's devoted personal assistant? That's your job. You have to

00:54:26.820 quit what you're doing now. You're his executive assistant. Or would you rather be a year-long

00:54:31.920 intern for Klaus Schwab?

00:54:33.300 Klaus Schwab, actually. I would like to know what exactly he's up to.

00:54:39.140 Everything that goes on. Wow. Who knows what you would be made to do, though, Lauren?

00:54:43.000 I know. It might be more, like, you might be, I don't know, boiling puppies or something. But at

00:54:47.840 least you would be in on it. And you can maybe subvert it from the inside.

00:54:50.800 Yeah, maybe so. And then, oh my gosh, think about the books that you could write.

00:54:55.220 Yes.

00:54:55.720 And think about the subscribers that you would get after a year like that.

00:54:59.140 Dylan Mulvaney would be a lot of subscribers, too. So it's hard.

00:55:02.000 Yeah. Oh, that's true. If you quit after a year and you were like, this is what I uncovered

00:55:07.820 about his laser hair removal appointments. Okay. Would you rather direct a full-length

00:55:14.020 stage production of Page Boy by Elliot Page or every time something good happens, Ibra Max

00:55:20.780 Kendi pops up and explains why it's racist in your personal life?

00:55:24.600 I would rather do the Page Boy thing by a mile, by a mile. I feel like that could actually

00:55:29.300 be kind of fun, depending on how seriously I have to take it. But yeah, the Ibra Max Kendi

00:55:35.100 thing, that would get old immediately.

00:55:37.700 Yeah, it really would. Oh my gosh. Okay. We've done this before, but I want to get your answer.

00:55:45.620 Life or death situation. You only have one phone call and you only have 15 seconds to describe

00:55:51.620 what's going on, what's needed, and where you are. Yeah.

00:55:54.820 Would you rather the person on the other line be Joe Biden or John Fetterman?

00:56:00.800 That still makes me laugh.

00:56:02.120 I know. I've seen you do this one.

00:56:07.480 So wait, I have to describe this to the person?

00:56:11.000 You've got 15 seconds and you can choose between calling Joe Biden or John Fetterman's life or

00:56:15.340 death situation. You have to tell them all the relevant information so that you can save their

00:56:19.920 life. Like, who do you trust to be able to understand that and then convey it properly

00:56:23.360 and quickly?

00:56:25.120 That's really hard.

00:56:26.320 So tough.

00:56:29.380 Gosh. I feel like my answer kind of changes depending on the news cycle, because sometimes

00:56:34.300 I'm like, oh, Biden had a pretty good, you know, that was a pretty good speed.

00:56:36.980 He had a good day.

00:56:37.580 Yeah.

00:56:37.760 And then he just topples all over the place.

00:56:40.780 Ooh, I think I would have to go Fetterman.

00:56:48.060 Wow.

00:56:48.640 It's hard.

00:56:49.480 It's hard.

00:56:49.820 That's so tough. I think I would still say Biden.

00:56:53.440 That's really tough. I think we'd probably just die. 0.61

00:56:56.620 Yeah, probably.

00:56:57.220 I think that's just probably the real answer.

00:57:03.320 Okay, let's do one more.

00:57:06.420 Let's see. Would you rather speak in a fake accent for a month than try to convince people

00:57:12.080 it's real? Everyone knows it's not.

00:57:14.100 Yeah.

00:57:14.400 But you have to do that. You're German now. Or would you have to do a Kamala Harris cackle

00:57:19.300 every time you find something even remotely funny?

00:57:25.280 I feel like I would do the accent instead, because, I mean, people have pulled that off.

00:57:29.420 Look at Madonna. She's British now, apparently. 1.00

00:57:31.440 Is she?

00:57:31.660 Yeah, or she's done that. Or, like, Lindsay Lohan started speaking with, like, an Arabic

00:57:35.900 accent.

00:57:36.520 Hilaria Baldwin.

00:57:37.260 Oh, yeah. Yeah, see?

00:57:38.520 I think she's just, like, Hillary from, like, Philadelphia.

00:57:41.320 Boston or something.

00:57:42.400 Yeah.

00:57:42.900 So, yeah, I would do the accent thing. That's common in Hollywood. That's not even something

00:57:46.540 to blink at.

00:57:47.340 Yeah. You don't think people would be, like, like, do you think people at, like, Blaze TV

00:57:52.280 would be, like, hey, Lauren, like, is there a reason that you are?

00:57:57.220 I have. I just, like, oh, I'm just embracing the Nashville lifestyle. I'm Southern now.

00:58:03.360 Oh, that'd be funny if you put on, like, a really, really thick twang and you pretended,

00:58:07.660 like, what I've always talked like this.

00:58:09.840 I've just been, you know, hanging out in Nashville. This is just how I talk now.

00:58:13.620 Can you, okay, try. Try to talk, like, what you think. Do you think I have a Southern accent?

00:58:18.100 I don't think you have a Southern accent.

00:58:19.560 But it's kind of interesting because in where I live in, like, I live outside of Nashville,

00:58:23.640 but there are so many transplants that a lot of people don't even have accents. And, you

00:58:28.540 know, even I've met some people who are, like, born and raised in Nashville. They don't

00:58:32.060 have accents either.

00:58:33.320 Yeah. It's the people outside of Nashville.

00:58:35.180 Yeah.

00:58:35.620 Yeah. Can you do, can you do a Tennessee accent?

00:58:39.000 Well, I find when I, when I talk to people who do have an accent, one of the things is that

00:58:44.540 they also talk much slower.

00:58:46.580 They talk real slow.

00:58:47.660 Than what I'm used to.

00:58:48.660 Yes, they do. Yes, they do. I got family members probably listening to this that you

00:58:52.620 sound just like this. I don't know if you know that. Actually, I'm talking a little

00:58:55.400 faster than I do. But yes, they do.

00:58:58.200 But it's like, yeah, being from the Northeast, I'm like, like, okay. Okay. Like, I'm like,

00:59:02.960 I, you know, I'm from the Northeast. I have things to do. I have business.

00:59:06.020 Yeah. You're like, come on. Let's go.

00:59:08.040 Okay. Thank you so much for a lovely conversation. Again, everyone can find you, well, Twitter,

00:59:12.880 Instagram, but then also your YouTube channel.

00:59:15.960 And Blaze's channel as well.

00:59:17.900 I'm everywhere.

00:59:19.180 You got lots of places to find Lauren Chen. Thank you so much for taking the time to come

00:59:22.220 on. Thanks for having me.

00:59:23.220 Thanks for having me.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 12, 2023

Ep 820 ｜ Did Satan Tell ‘Elliot’ Page to Transition？｜ Guest： Lauren Chen

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 12, 2023

Ep 820 ｜ Did Satan Tell ‘Elliot’ Page to Transition？ ｜ Guest： Lauren Chen

Episode Stats

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Ep 820 ｜ Did Satan Tell ‘Elliot’ Page to Transition？｜ Guest： Lauren Chen