Ep 823 | Megan Fox, Witchcraft & Transing Kids
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In this episode, Allie talks about the dangers of over-the-counter anti-depressants, SSRIs, and how they can be misused as political props. She also discusses the tragic death of Olympian Tori Bowie, who died in childbirth at her home.
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minds are changing when it comes to transgenderism and gender ideology for the better. This is good
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news amidst a lot of crazy and sad news like the president of the United States putting the pride
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flag front and center on the White House and also some crazy stuff about Megan Fox raising her boy
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to be a girl and also a tragedy that I read in the news the other day about Olympian track star
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Tori Bowie dying in childbirth at her home. Unfortunately, she is being used as a political
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prop to push a narrative about race in America that is just not based in truth. So we will correct
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the record on all of that. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone has had a wonderful week. Well,
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we haven't had any controversial episodes this week at all. Not at all. Not at all. My DMs are
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such a lovely place on Instagram right now. Actually, for the most part, Tuesday and Wednesday's
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episodes with Dr. McFillen have been received in an extremely positive way. And actually the most
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positive and grateful messages I've gotten have been from people who struggle with depression and
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anxiety and have been on so-called antidepressants or SSRIs. Or you had a loved one who was on these
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prescriptions and you saw some of the effects of these medications. Now, it does not surprise me
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and it's okay with me that I got some messages and a lot of comments from people yesterday saying that
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they were upset by this episode. They were upset by the clip that I played and they, you know, say the
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things that people say that this is dangerous. This is unscientific. This is misinformation. It's
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interesting because it's the same kind of language that progressives use about everything that the
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right says. And then a lot of people on the right employ the same kind of language when it comes to
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an assertion that they don't agree with. But I haven't seen anyone, whether they have
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doctor in their Instagram handle or no matter what their story is, actually refute to me what Dr.
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McFellan said over the past two days. Now, I am not a psychologist. I do not have a medical degree.
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So I'm not saying that legitimate refutation does not exist. They're varying perspectives. I
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understand that. But he made some objective points. He made some data-backed points about the safety
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studies of so-called antidepressants and SSRIs. He talked a lot about the importance of emotional
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regulation. And so I would like to see those. If you are going to comment and say that this is
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dangerous, this is misinformation, that we shouldn't be platforming this kind of message, I would like
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to see you address specifically the points that he made, especially when it comes to the safety of
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these medications and how little data we actually have on the long-term effects of them. Isn't that
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something we should all care about? Even if you feel that you have really benefited from one of these
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medications, even if you feel like your life depends on these medications and you'll never
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get off these medications. All right. I cannot take that from you. I'm not even trying to take
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that from you. But shouldn't we all care that there is a lack of long-term data on this stuff and that
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there are some serious side effects that come with these drugs that are very often not told to the
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patient or the family members? I mean, I have gotten stories from some of you who are upset that I
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interviewed Dr. McFillan, but honestly, the most poignant and the most tragic and the most just
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anger-provoking, saddening messages that I've gotten have been from those of you who have suffered
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the effects of these SSRIs. If you don't know what that is, you can go listen to the last two days of
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the episodes that I did with Dr. McFillan. Or you had a loved one suffer from these effects and you
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were not told. You weren't told. Your loved one wasn't told. And sometimes it ends in irreversible
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choices. Not realizing that it wasn't actually the diagnosis of depression or anxiety that led to
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someone going to a really dark place, either thinking about doing dark things or actually
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committing dark acts against themselves or other people. But it was actually the medications that they
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were put on. I'm not saying that that's going to be the effect for everyone, but shouldn't we all
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care that that's a risk? Like, shouldn't we all care that we are being over-medicalized?
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I was thinking about this, and this is not coming from someone who is anti-medication,
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anti-modern medicine. I've said before I'm crunchy in some ways, but I am not crunchy in a lot of ways.
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Like, I really appreciate modern medicine. And again, as I said, there are varying perspectives
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of this. I certainly don't claim to be the arbiter of what is completely and totally unconditionally
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objectively true when it comes to the subject. But I was thinking about the over-medicalization
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of normal human emotions, normal feelings of distraction, normal levels of depression,
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normal levels of anxiety. I think when we use terms like depression and anxiety, rather than words
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like sad or worried, we tend to justify a medical diagnosis and then medical prescriptions when perhaps
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they are not necessary. Like if we started calling anti-depressants, anti-sad medication or anti-anxiety
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medication, anti-worry medication, you kind of start to see that you're trying to suppress normal human
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emotions. I'm not speaking to your particular story. I'm not saying that you can't feel like you've
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really improved because of the medications that you are prescribed. I'm not saying that. But when it
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comes to normal levels of sadness and normal levels of anxiety and worry that everyone feels for a
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variety of reasons, I do wonder if we just have been conditioned, as Dr. McFillan said, to think that
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these are medical diagnoses in every case when they are not always. One of you messaged me a story about
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how you felt so much depression after you lost your baby about halfway through your pregnancy. And
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immediately you were offered by two doctors antidepressants because you were so sad. You
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didn't want to get out of bed. You didn't want to function. And this person told me they knew like this
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is what depression feels like. It is just like a weight that is holding you down. You feel like
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nothing alleviates it. But this person also said, there's a reason that I'm sad. There's a reason
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that I'm going through something that's really difficult. And it's okay for me to feel depressed.
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It's okay for me to not want to get out of bed. It's okay for me to feel like I can't even put one foot
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in front of the other. And this person decided not to go on antidepressants. Again, I'm not
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making medical recommendations for you. But I do think that there is a problem with how hard this
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stuff is being pushed without full education of all of the side effects. I can't take away your story
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and your experience. If you feel like you have been positively impacted by these medications,
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that's not what I'm trying to do. But I do think that it's really important that we hear
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out psychologists like Dr. McFillin who are being censored. Didn't COVID teach us something
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about the control that the pharmaceutical companies have on these institutions that are telling us,
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this is just science. This is just science. This is good for you. This is how you love your neighbor.
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Didn't we learn something about that over the past two years? That if YouTube
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and Twitter and Facebook are all going to censor one perspective that happens to be against the
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money-making apparatus of these pharmaceutical companies, that we should at least, at the very
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least, hear that perspective out. So I just encourage you, like if you were maybe just initially
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peeved or hurt by the titles of the past two days episodes, or if you saw the clip on Instagram
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and it just threw you into a rage because you were so angry, go listen to the episodes. Maybe you still
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disagree. Maybe you have medical expertise and like you have pushback. But I really encourage you
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to one, specifically refute him and two, just listen to what he has to say. Because even if you disagree
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ultimately with what he said about SSRIs, he has a lot of insight into the corruption that is our
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medical system in the United States. So anyway, we'll have him back on. So much positive feedback
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from you guys. So much positive feedback. Y'all want him back on to talk about ADD medication and
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things like that, which is someone who feels like I have undiagnosed ADD. Like I'm really interested to
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hear his take on that. All right, let's get to the rest of our episode. And one more thing that I just
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want to say about that too, is that Dr. McFillan did not minimize the reality of these very painful
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emotions and seasons that you might be going through. He just has a different take on them
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and a different solution to them than simply taking a medication that will just bring you to
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a place of numbing. So I just want to say that because I saw some people saying, oh, they're saying
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that mental illness isn't real or like mental health isn't a real issue or minimizing it or saying
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that you should just like pray it away. That's not at all what was said. So please don't just
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presumptuously comment or message until you've really heard it out and make sure that you are not
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inserting maybe like your own fears into what he is saying by, you know, saying something that he
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didn't say. All right. Speaking of fear, I am very scared of this large and just grotesque,
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grotesque pride flag that was displayed on the White House by President Biden. We will, yes,
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this beautiful picture. You'll remember the pride flag used to just have rainbow colors, but now it's
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got this weird like triangle thing in it. And I still am not totally sure what the black and brown
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stands for. I still don't know. Is that the color of people's skin? Is that a sexual orientation?
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If it's the color of people's skin, like what does it have to do with who these people prefer to have
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intercourse with? I don't understand. But then, of course, we have the pink and the blue now on the
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pride flag. So it's just become more and more garish over time. And of course, as you keep on adding
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letters, you have to keep on adding colors to represent all of those letters. And then it is
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going to just continue to just be a mass, a mass of colors. And let me just remind you also about the
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pink and the blue in the pride flag. The pink and the blue in the pride flag, it's the transgender part
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of the transgender flag, which is the light pink and the light blue and the white. I believe these are
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baby colors. I've always thought that this was creepy. I've always thought that it was weird that
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people weren't more embarrassed by this, by the fact that a man who goes by the name of Monica Helms
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actually invented this flag several years ago. Now, Monica, I don't even know. I think his name is
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Robert Hogue, but he invented this flag to actually represent like these infantile colors on purpose
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because he has fantasies of being stuck in a six-year-old girl's body. He has fantasies of
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age regression. He's actually written extensively about this. You can look up Monica Helms and some
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of the books and the articles, the pieces that she has written. She actually fantasizes about being like
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a little girl in a tutu. This is who created the transgender flag. Like everywhere you turn, when you
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look at this kind of gender ideology, you see this kind of infantilization. You should make of that
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what you will. Make of that what you will. But here we have the president of the United States,
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the uniter in chief, the empath in chief, you guys, the man that all Christians should have voted for if
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you really cared about loving your neighbor and you really upheld decency. Evangelicals for Biden,
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no, pro-life evangelicals for Biden. I think that was the name of the group said we have to uphold
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the tenets of Christianity by voting for Joe Biden, not that mean racist bully Donald Trump. And they
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said, okay, we're pro-life evangelicals. We're just going to look past the fact that this guy actually
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advocates for illegal abortion through all nine months. We're actually going to look past the fact
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that he is advocating for overturning the Hyde Amendment. The Hyde Amendment protects federal
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tax dollars from funding abortion. We're going to look past the fact that his administration is now
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funding and enabling and promoting the butchering of children's bodies by pushing this radical idea
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that it's actually possible to change your gender. And in fact, possible to change your gender as a
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minor. All of these things, we are still told to this day by this contingency of professing Christians
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that they're all just kind of these small culture war issues that we shouldn't really focus on,
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that really we should focus on the fact that he is so nice, that he's so compassionate,
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and that Democrats care so much about immigrants and about black people and about poor people that,
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you know, it's six in one, half dozen in the other when you're looking at Republicans and Democrats.
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And at the end of the day, you just need to vote for the party that makes you feel good inside.
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Like, honestly, that is as far as some professing Christians who vote Democrat have really thought
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about the issues. And they'll look at something like this, that you've got the president of the United
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States, hoisting up what God calls an abomination, what God calls sin, the God who is love, the God
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who is wisdom, the God who is justice, says that this is sin, says that this is destructive for the
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body, says that this is destructive for the soul, says this is therefore destructive for societies and
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nations. We've got the president of the United States, a professing Christian himself,
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displaying the representation of this kind of degeneracy and sadness and confusion and abomination
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at the White House. You will actually have professing Christians look past this or even say it's fine,
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that this is just showing people love. This is just making people feel true, that they can be true
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to who they are. This is celebrating authenticity. Look, if that is how you think about what God calls sin,
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then I'm not really, I'm not really sure you're there. Like, I'm not really sure you really know
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who God is. Because if you're not willing to keep his commandments, like if you don't trust what his
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word says, like if you don't really believe in his definitions of what he calls good and what he calls
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bad, if you believe in your own definitions of these things, if you believe that maybe the world and you
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are more compassionate than him, I'm not so sure you love him. I'm not so sure about that.
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I commented on this with part of Romans 1. Of course, all of Romans 1 is applicable here.
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And this made some people mad, but I thought that the verse in Romans 1 or the verses in Romans 1 that
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applied the best were Romans 1, 18 through 19. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against
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all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. That's
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Romans 1, 18. And some people, they see this display and they're like, when is God just going to judge us?
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We deserve his judgment. We deserve his condemnation. Like, this is the judgment.
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This is the judgment. That we have wicked rulers that are making easy and accessible the butchering
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of people's bodies, including children's bodies in the name of self-love. That's what it is. This is
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the judgment. We're not waiting for the judgment to happen. This is the judgment. We have wicked,
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evil rulers that are pushing chaos and confusion in the name of compassion. Remember 2 Timothy 3.
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But understand this, that in the last days, there will come times of difficulty for people will be
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lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful,
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unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good,
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treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
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having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
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Lovers of self. Interesting. We're told that that's a Christian virtue today. I wrote a book about that,
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actually, that that's not a Christian virtue. Neither is self-loathing, by the way, but self-forgetfulness
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is. Obedience to God is. Being a new creation that has been bought with a price by Christ is a
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Christian value. And that sends us neither to self-adoration nor self-deprecation, but rather
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a form of self-forgetfulness that comes with full surrender to God. And yet, in the last days, we were
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told, and I don't know, by the way, when those—I don't know when Jesus is coming back. Some people feel
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very strongly that it's right now. None of us really know the day or the hour. Of course,
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it depends on your eschatological view. But we do read that lovers of self and lovers of money are
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markers of times of difficulty and disobedience to God. Lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
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having the appearance of godliness. Isn't that interesting? Like, it's not just that in the last
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days we're going to see this treachery and we're going to see this evil and wickedness and violence
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and all of this stuff and disobedience to parents. But in all of these things, there will be an
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appearance of godliness. So you see that in the defense of this kind of act by the President of
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the United States, people who profess to be Christians, people like Jen Hatmaker, who we talked
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about last week, saying, no, this is just loving your neighbor. Like, this actually had someone who I've had
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on this podcast before, Brandon Robertson, we debated abortion. You can go see how that went on
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a previous episode, say that, you know, this is a wonderful display of God's love and the diversity
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of his creation. Of course, Brandon rejects virtually all of Scripture, but even the first chapter of the
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first book of the Bible, which is Genesis 1. But we see that there is an appearance of godliness that
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is put over this kind of abomination. But denying its power, avoid such people. Now, this is what I
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love this passage because I think this is so true about the self-love and toxic empathy movement,
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which really go hand in hand. For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak
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women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning, but never able to arrive
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at a knowledge of truth. Jen Hatmaker, Rachel Hollis, Glennon Doyle. Just as James and Jambres opposed
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Moses, so these men must also oppose the truth. Men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the
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faith, but they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two
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men. Thankfully, we have at the end of that chapter comfort. All Scripture is breathed out by God
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and profitable, for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man
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of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. We don't have to follow the chaos and the
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confusion of this world, of these self-help leaders, of these self-love propagators, of the president of
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the United States. We don't have to follow these people. We don't have to be confused about what is
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right and what is wrong, what is male and what is female. We have the gracious clarity given to us
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in the word of God. And a much lesser point to be made that others are making is that this seems to
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violate the U.S. flag code, which says, under the subsection, Position and Manner of Display,
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Section E of the flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest
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point of the group when a number of flags of states or locality or pennants of societies are grouped and
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displayed from staff. So let's put up that picture. You can see that at the White House, the pride flag
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is right in the middle, and then you've got the two American flags flanking it. And so this does seem
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to show the pride flag in a position of prominence, and then the American flag in lesser positions.
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Now, there are some authors, there are some journalists coming out, like from Forbes, saying,
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no, no, no, no, this is not a violation. The author of this Forbes article claims that the
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photos didn't show the U.S. flag flying atop the White House, which he claims would mean the flag
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display adhered to the U.S. flag code. Karine Jean-Pierre totally forgot about this person. I
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totally forgot that we were having like press conferences. I haven't seen anything about this
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in such a long time. Honestly, very smart of them because she is not good at her job. She's not
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good at her job. The last press secretary, I forgot her name. She was good at her job. Now,
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we might be frustrated. We might have been frustrated with her because as conservatives,
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she was, you know, she wasn't telling the truth, and we didn't like her answers. We didn't like her
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stances on things, but she was ginsacky. That's her name. She was good at her job. Karine Jean-Pierre,
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not good at her job. So it's better for everyone that these press conferences are not widely
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advertised. So someone asks about the whole pride flag display at the White House, and here's what
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she had to say. There's been some criticism also of the White House, the flag placement,
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the pride flag violating the U.S. flag code. Did anybody notice that or fail to notice that,
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or was it an intentional statement? Just explain what happened. So the administration was proud,
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again, to display the pride flag. It was a historic event at the White House. It's centered around the
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love, around love and family, and I think that's important. And so, you know, we're not going to
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let anyone distract us from that. Okay. That doesn't really answer our question. This is about love and
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family. And yet we had this dude who is apparently some TikTok influencer, you know, a man identifying
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as a woman who has had some surgeries, I don't know how many, to try to appear as a woman who took his
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shirt off and was flashing his moobs to the camera. And people were all, you know, I guess applauding
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this at the White House. And then you had some women who identify as men who have done the opposite.
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They've actually removed the breasts that God gave them. And they've got the double mastectomy scars.
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And they are, they're displaying this as well, topless on the White House lawn. Now you'll remember
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that he ran on decency, right? Pro-life evangelicals for Biden. Where are you on this one?
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How's the decency going? How's the unity going? How does it feel? Does it feel good? Not so sure about
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that. Now I will not retweet that video. I saw so many conservatives reacting to it. And you see
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this a lot. I'm not saying that I've never been guilty of something like this, but I've tried to
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be more cognizant of this, especially just like over the past year or so, or over the past few months
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of not sharing the supremely grotesque stuff that we see on the left. Like the very sexual stuff,
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especially the kind of drag queen shows and things that involve like the children who are watching or
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the children who are made to perform. I understand why conservatives share it because you're wanting
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to show people who just like blah, blah, blah. They don't want to, they don't want to see it. Like
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they've got their ears plugged. They've got their eyes covered. They just want to pretend like it's not
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happening. So I understand why conservatives retweeted, why they show it because they want to prove that
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the things that we are lambasting are real, that it's not just a figment of our imagination, but
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I just don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want that on my timeline. I don't want to share it. I
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don't think you guys want to see it. Hopefully I have enough credibility with you guys that you will
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just believe me if I say something happened. I don't need to show you a picture. And I'm sorry,
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like, especially when it's something sexual, when it's nudity or something, I don't want to contribute
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to someone's lust. I don't want to contribute to, you know, someone's struggle. If you struggle with
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like lust or pornography or something like that, I don't want to contribute to that. And sometimes I
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just don't think that we need to actually see something in order to, in order for it to sink in,
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in order for us to know that evil is happening. I think it can just pollute our minds and take our
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minds to really like sad, dark places that they don't need to go. So just trust me that this is
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happening. This administration is a judgment. It is a judgment on our society. We are reaping the wrath
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of God in some ways. And like the chickens won't come home to roost, especially when it comes to these
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gender policies pushed by this administration, not fully for a long time. Like we have not seen the
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effects of the damaging and destructive properties of gender ideology that is being pushed ferociously
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I want to talk about this Megan Fox story about her apparently raising her boys to be gender neutral
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or to be female. She's got three boys. This picture was circulating of Megan and her three sons.
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All of them seem to kind of be dressed as girls, especially one of them. And I won't show their
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faces because they are children, but this has been, she's been very open about this. This is not a secret.
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She's been talking about her kids being gender neutral. And I'll read some of the quotes from
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the articles, but Robbie Starbuck is kind of the one who has been commenting about this. He claims
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that he knew her and her family back when he lived in Calabasas. Now I'm not going to repeat the claim
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that he made because I don't know if it's true. I don't know that his personal experience with her,
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I'm not saying that he's lying. I just haven't been able to verify it. And I wouldn't like someone
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to repeat something that may not, that is not verifiable by me, but he claims that he knew the
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family and that something is going on behind the scenes here. But I don't even think that we have to,
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we have to know really what went on behind the scenes based on what we have seen publicly from her
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in regards to how she raises her three sons. But she did want to respond to Robbie Starbuck and his
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accusations that strange things are going on behind the scenes when it comes to how she's raising her
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children. And here's what she had to say to Robbie, who is a conservative commentator. He's a former
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Republican congressional candidate in Tennessee. Here's what she had to say to her tens of millions
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of Instagram followers. Hey, Robbie Starbuck. I really don't want to give you this attention
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because you're a clout chaser, but let me tell you something. Irregardless.
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I just need a moment of silence for that. Irregardless, she says. Irregardless. It's just
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regardless. Okay. Irregardless was a joke on Mean Girls when Gretchen Wiener said it. And we were all
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laughing back in 2006 because irregardless isn't a word. It means the opposite of what you're trying to say.
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Okay. So she means to say, regardless of how desperate you may become at any given time to
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acquire wealth, power, success, or fame, never use children as leverage or social currency,
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which I agree with, by the way, especially under malevolent and erroneous pretense.
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Those are big words for someone who just said irregardless. Exploiting my child's gender identity
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to gain attention in your political campaign has put you on the wrong side of the universe. I've been
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burned at the stake by insecure, narcissistic, impotent little men like you many times, and yet
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I'm still here. You aft with the wrong witch. That is really, really scary. And then posted on her
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Instagram story, this New York Post story. This New York Post story is about a woman who caught on her
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security camera two naked women who were doing this kind of witch ritual eating the carcass of a dead
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deer. So Megan Fox reposted that story and said, me outside of Robbie Starbucks's house. And like,
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this is why I think this, this is part of why I think this story is so important. I really don't like
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talking about like people's families and things like that. But I do think that there is a trend because
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we've all seen the pictures of celebrities dressing their sons in very feminine ways. I don't know what's
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going on behind the scenes and Megan Fox's house. I will not assume to know everything I have. I don't know
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if Robbie Starbucks's story is true. I am not saying it's true. But the pictures are there of her boys being
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dressed up like little girls. And then her saying that basically she's a witch that is what going to
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do some kind of deer eating ritual outside of Robbie Starbucks's house because he pointed to the fact
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that it's very disturbing that her boys are being dressed up in this way. So Megan Fox also said to
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Parade Magazine, Fox and Green share three sons. This is what Parade Magazine said. There are not many
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public photos of the green children online, but in the ones that exist, each child appears to have
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long hair, which sometimes prompts people to ask questions about their genders. Fox has spoken publicly
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about choosing to raise her three boys as gender neutral. When I became pregnant with Noah, this is what
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she says. When I became pregnant with Noah, I could feel through my mother's intuition, I suppose, that he was
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not subscribing to gender stereotypes. So I decided to provide an environment for him early on that would allow
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him to discover how he wanted to express himself. So she knew neonatally that her son was not really a
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boy. These people are very unwell. They're unwell. It's really, really sad. And amazingly, they are still
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looked up to by many as like voices on important issues that we should all be listening to, like a moral,
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like moral betters. In April 2022, in an interview with Glamour, Megan Fox said, Noah started wearing
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dresses when he was about two. And I bought a bunch of books that sort of address these things and
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address a full spectrum of what this is. Some of the books are written by transgender children. Some of
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the books are just about how you can be a boy and wear a dress. You can express yourself through clothing
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however you want. And that doesn't even have to have anything to do with your sexuality. So from the
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time they were very young, I've incorporated those things into their daily lives so that nobody feels
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weird or strange or different. I understand wanting your kids to feel accepted and feel loved. I
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really understand that. But as parents, we owe our kids clarity. We owe our kids the knowledge that
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you were not born an accident, that your body means something, that it's important, that it's really good
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to be a boy, that it's really good to be a girl. No, that doesn't mean that you have to conform to every
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gender stereotype that exists. Yes, it's okay to be a girl who loves sports and loves dirt bikes and
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things like that. Sure, a boy can love ballet. But these are fixed categories that we cannot change.
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And fluidity is just confusion. And I think it's a form of actually mental torture for our kids.
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And so even though we have been told today that love means unconditional affirmation of everything
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our kids have to say or everything anyone has to say, that's just not true. Love and truth go hand
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in hand. Actually, you're not loving someone if you are not also bringing truth. The truth is,
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is that we do live in a gender binary that is determined at the moment of conception by our
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chromosomes. And there are different roles that men and women play. There are different characteristics
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that men and women have that are important. And the physical characteristics that we have are
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totally immutable, no matter how you dress. And so I don't know the state of the conflict between
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Robbie Starbuck and between Megan Fox at this point. But there it is. And I just think that there's
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a lot more of this going on in Hollywood probably than we realize. Some people think it's a conspiracy
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theory that they tie all of, or they say that any, you know, skepticism about what goes on in
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Hollywood and Hollywood's families and what happens to children in Hollywood, that it's all part of
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some QAnon conspiracy theory. But I think that we can all just use a little bit of reasoning and a
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little bit of logic to look inside what's going on and say, that doesn't seem normal. That just doesn't
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seem right. Um, so this is an unfortunate, this is an unfortunate story. And I hope that redemption
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comes upon the house of Megan Fox and her children and that the Lord would lead them in truth. Um,
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all right. I wanted to get to a positive story, uh, about the gender binary and how actually most people
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are not buying what people like Megan Fox or the president of the United States is selling. I saw
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this study. Actually, I saw it retweeted by a liberal person who was decrying the results of
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the study. So I was like, Ooh, this is going to be good. And it is a study from the public religion
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research Institute, which is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that says they are dedicated to
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conducting independent research at the intersection of religion, culture, and public policy that says that
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people are moving to, I don't know if you would say to the right, but towards truth when it comes to
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the existence of, uh, the gender binary. So this was conducted among 5,438 individuals during March of
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2023, people of all different, uh, backgrounds, males, females, political affiliations, religious
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affiliations, age groups. Uh, they were recruited into this study and then they were asked a series
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of questions to determine what they think, um, about genders. Unsurprisingly, there's a big difference
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between Republicans and Democrats when it comes to this. 90% of Republicans say that there are only
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two genders compared to 66% of independents and 44% of Democrats, 44% of Democrats, only 44% say that
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there are only two genders. 92% of white evangelical Christians believe that there are only two genders.
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That group is always the most conservative among any of the religious groups ever polled. 71% of
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black Protestants, 69% of white Catholics, uh, 66% of Latino Catholics believe there are only two
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genders compared with 46% who don't have a religious affiliation. It's so interesting and kind of ironic
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in a way, based on the accusations of religious people just not existing in reality and being anti-science,
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that the more religious you are, the more tethered you actually are to reality and to science.
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By generation, 57% of Gen Z. I'm actually kind of excited about that. 57% of Gen Z believe there
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are only two genders. Good job, guys. Proud of you. 60% of millennials. Really, guys? Like,
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we have mortgages at this point. Only 60%? I was okay with 57% of Gen Z because some of their brains
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literally aren't formed yet. 60% of millennials. Come on, guys. That's not even two-thirds of us
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know that there are two genders. 71% of Gen X, 68% of baby boomers, and 69% of the silent generation.
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Still way too few. I kind of wonder, like, how many people even understood the question?
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Like, how many people in the silent generation? That's like my grandmother, who has since passed.
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That's, I mean, she was born in 1936. If I had asked my grandmother before she died,
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like, what do you think about the gender binary? I'm not sure that she would have understood
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anything of what I was saying. I'm just not sure that I believe that 69% of the silent generation,
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people born in the Great Depression, believe that there are only two genders. And that the other
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part of the silent generation, like, they believe that you can be genderqueer. I don't, I'm not buying
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that. In 2021, 86% of white evangelical Protestants said that there are only two genders. And now it's 92%.
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52%. What up? Good job, guys. Other Protestants of color went from 52%. This is crazy. This is a huge
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jump, guys. So other Protestants of color. So Hispanic, Black, other Protestants of color went
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from 52% believing in a gender binary in 2021. That's low, guys. Now it's 73% in 2023. Hispanic Catholics
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went from 48% in 2021 to 66% in 2023. So people are just waking up to it. They're seeing this stuff.
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And whether, like, whether progressives like this or not, yes, the drag queen story hour and the drag
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queen with kids and the kids being maimed, all of that is put under the same umbrella in most people's
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minds of transgenderism. Like, you trying to split hairs between, oh, drag queen and transgenderism,
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that's not clicking with most people, okay? Like, all the stuff with the kids that we're seeing with
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the changing of the gender and telling the boys that they can be a girl and celebrities dressing
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their boys up as girls, it all falls under the same category. Most people don't want anything to do with
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that. And then we've got some other stats on this. Stats on gender identity, so-called, in public
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schools. When looking at views on teaching about gender identity in public schools, only 7% of
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Americans think teaching that some people do not consider themselves to be a man or a woman is
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appropriate in early elementary school. 11% say in later elementary school. What are you guys on?
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26% say in middle school and 18% say in high school. That's interesting. While 36% believe that
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it is never appropriate to teach this idea in public schools. Similarly, 8% of all Americans think it is
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appropriate to teach that some people are transgender. Wow. So why are we seeing what we do?
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Why are we seeing this? That's because most people are not for it, but they won't speak up on it. Like,
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they don't have the courage to say anything about it, or they just don't think it's going to affect
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their family or affect their community. This is really a case of the silent majority. And we're
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talking silent vast majority. So we can't be fooled by what we see on Instagram or what we see on Twitter
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thinking that most people believe that it's okay or that it's even possible to switch genders. Most
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people don't believe that. Most people don't want kids involved in people's minds are being changed
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towards the gender binary, which is just reality. It's crazy that we even have to have polls about this.
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White evangelicals, Latter-day Saints, and Hispanic Protestants are the only religious groups in which
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majorities of adherents say that young people are being peer pressured into being transgender. But
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it's actually true. Like, we're actually seeing this in schools. And maybe someone is not coming up
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to a child and saying, you need to be the opposite sex, but they're suggesting it. There's power of
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suggestion, especially by someone who is in authority, to say, you will be celebrated. This can be our little
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secret. This is something that you can don here at school that you don't have to tell your parents
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about. There is something enticing about that for kids. And we've seen story after story of this
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happening. And so once again, I would say the more religious you are, the more tethered you are to
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reality. White evangelicals, I'm always told that, especially by my Catholic friends who I really
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like, Protestantism is the reason for progressivism or it's the reason for liberalism. And time and time
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again, in every poll, in every data set, it's actually white evangelicals that are far more
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conservative on all of these issues than my Catholic friends or really people of any other faith.
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And there are a variety of reasons for that. But I always just think that that argument is
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interesting because it doesn't matter if it's from Pew Research or YouGov or this organization,
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white evangelicals are always the most conservative when it comes to any kind of culture war or political
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issue. So this is good. This is something that we should be celebrating, that minds are changing for
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the better, especially when it comes to Hispanic Catholics and then the other Protestants of
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color as they describe them. Minds are changing for the better. So keep going. Like you might not
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think that speaking up to your friends, that saying something to your church leaders, or that you as a
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pastor saying something from the pulpit, or you suggesting articles or sharing articles or suggesting
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books with your friends or sharing this podcast or whatever it is, or speaking up at the school board,
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whatever it is that you're doing that you feel like maybe is ineffective or not making a difference,
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you never know what minds are changing. You never know. And plus, it is always worth speaking the
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truth. And so this is important. Like women's and girls' rights are on the line. Women's privacy is
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on the line. Women's fairness and competitions, that's all on the line. Children's bodies are on
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the line here. This is absolutely worth speaking up about, and it can make a difference. And all those
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people, all these people, the vast majority of people who don't think this should be pushed on kids,
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who don't even think it's possible to do, you need to speak up, borrow someone's courage, and use it.
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All right. I had a lot to talk about today because I was on vacation earlier this week,
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and so I didn't get to talk about like all the news things that I wanted to talk about.
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So I'm trying to decide right now as I speak which story I want to talk about. Do I want to talk about
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DeSantis being called the Grand Wizard of the KKK at the Tonys the other day? Or do I want to talk
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about this story that really has nothing to do with anything that we've been talking about,
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but I just found it very sad about Tori Bowie? Let's talk about Tori Bowie because I think that this
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is worth noting, and I'm afraid I'm not going to have time to get to it next week. So Tori Bowie,
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an incredible Olympian track star. She has won several times. I think back in 2016 was maybe
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her last title. And we've actually talked about her before. We've talked about her as an example
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that Duke University has cited when they looked at the differences between male and female track
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athletes and how Tori Bowie and Allison Felix are incredibly fast, probably the fastest woman in the
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world. And yet their record time as female Olympians was, it was beat 15,000 times, both of their record
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time, 15,000 times by high school boys. And so it just goes to show that even elite female athletes
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aren't really competitive against even high school boys. And the differentiator there, Duke University,
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admitted is testosterone. It is an androgynized body versus a non-androgynized body. So I'm not
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really someone who follows track, but as soon as I heard that she died, that her name struck me
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because we've talked about her several times on this podcast, just an absolutely incredible athlete.
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She actually died at the beginning of May. I did not realize that. I only heard that she died
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after the autopsy results were published. And a lot of people are talking about this because of just
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how tragic the circumstances were. So this is according to CBS, three-time Olympic medalist Tori
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Bowie, who died in early May at the age of 32, was eight months pregnant and in labor at her Florida
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home at the time of her death. Her agent confirmed Monday, drawing renewed attention to the maternal
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mortality crisis in the U.S. So the medical examiner said that it could have been. It doesn't say
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possible complications, we've read, could have been respiratory distress and eclampsia. Eclampsia
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is a pregnancy condition that is deadly. You can get treatment for it. It's typically called
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preeclampsia. Very rarely does it develop to eclampsia, which can cause seizures and all kinds
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of complications that are very dangerous for mothers and their babies. If you're getting the proper
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treatment, it can be treated. And women deliver all the time, healthy babies that are healthy
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themselves after having a diagnosis of preeclampsia. But it seems like she was in labor and actually died
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at home, not of a home birth. That's what I thought had happened originally. But it doesn't seem like
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that's the case. Eight months pregnant, I guess, went into labor early. And a lot of people are assuming
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different things that went on. What we know is that she wasn't heard from for two days. And then the
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police were called to do a welfare check. They did a welfare check. They went in. She and her baby
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had both died. Her baby was a girl, born stillborn, and she had also died. A lot of mystery still
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surrounding those circumstances. Most of the reporting that I read, even the obituary, was very vague about
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the existence of the baby. Actually, a lot of reporting, a lot of articles that you'll read do
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not mention the baby at all, which I thought was strange. Who was the father of the child? I guess
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Tori Bowie was unmarried. I didn't realize that. There are so many questions that I think a lot of
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us have. And I think asking the question, too, what kind of prenatal care was she receiving? I think
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that's totally a fair question. But what you will be bombarded with when you look on Twitter is
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accusations of racism. The brand Bobby on Instagram posted this, that we must do better for Black
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mothers, that this is all about racism and Black women not being treated well in our medical system.
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Look, maybe that was the case for Tori Bowie, but no one can say for sure. We have no idea and no
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indication whatsoever that she was a victim of racism, and that's why she died. And I just think
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it's so freaking sad, man, that we use tragedies like this immediately and assume the most popular
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political, most divisive narrative that will not actually save women's lives. You know how I know
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this won't save women's lives? Because Tori Bowie's circumstance is not likely, whether you are
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white or you're Black. We're told that it is because of racism, but it's not. So let me tell you
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some truth about this. CBS reports this, that the number of women who die during or shortly after
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childbirth in the U.S. is higher than any other developed nation, which is true. That's disgusting.
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That's awful. And the risks are even greater among women of color. That is true. Black women are at
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least three times more likely to die from a pregnancy-related cause than white women, according
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to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That, as far as I can tell, is true. We've talked about
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that on the show before. That is a travesty, no matter how you slice it. That is obviously very
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sad. But what we're told immediately, what we're told immediately is that that is because of racism.
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It's because of systemic racism, because Black women aren't believed, because they're not
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treated as full persons in the medical system. And I don't see evidence of that.
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Here's the truth. And I think that the truth matters. The truth actually matters,
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even in this devastating story of Tori Bowie, because she's being hoisted up as some kind of political
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object to push a narrative that is not true. So in order to stop that, we actually have to
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say some things that are true, that confound the narrative that she is being used for.
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According to the CDC, Hispanic women have a lower maternal mortality rate than white women,
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even though they are on average comparable economically to Black women and presumably would
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experience discrimination because we hear the Black and brown people in our system,
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they experience discrimination. It's an economic thing. It's a race thing. And yet white women are
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more likely to die in childbirth or after childbirth than Hispanic women. So if it's really racism,
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are you saying that Hispanic women, for some reason, are treated better, more fairly than white women?
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Again, this is one of those fallacies that we see on the left all the time when it comes to race,
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that only disparities between white and Black people are automatically proof of discrimination,
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but not disparities between other races and white people if those other races happen to be
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doing better in some way than white people. There is also, as we've talked about before,
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the fact that the number one cause of maternal mortality is not anything that the CDC records,
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but it's actually homicide, especially for Black women. I'm not saying that's what happened to
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Tori Bowie, but if we want to fix things at all for Black women who die after childbirth,
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then this should be the number one thing that's addressed because it far outweighs the number of
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any other kinds of death when it comes to pregnancy or postpartum related deaths among Black women.
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So this is a study that I've referenced before, and it is in Obstetrics and Gynecology Journal,
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and they found that homicide during pregnancy or within 42 days of the end of pregnancy exceeded
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all the leading causes of maternal mortality by more than twofold. Pregnancy was associated with
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significantly elevated homicide risk in the Black population. So you are more likely to be killed
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as a Black woman if you are pregnant, and you are far more likely to be killed as a Black woman,
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especially a pregnant Black woman, than any other race. And here is another study that I've referenced,
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racial disparities in pregnancy-associated intimate partner homicide. The study found that Black women
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evidenced pregnancy-associated homicide rates more than threefold higher than that observed among
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White and Hispanic women. The largest intraracial discrepancies between pregnant and non-pregnant
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women emerged among Black women who experienced pregnancy-associated homicide at a rate 8.1 times
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greater than their non-pregnant peers. The vast majority of these cases are the father of the child or the
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boyfriend of the mother. So far more than any systemic problem that is claimed to exist in the
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medical system against Black women is this problem of homicide. It is extremely more likely for a Black
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woman to be murdered while she was pregnant or postpartum than it is for any other adverse event
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to happen to her. Tulane University also found this not just for the United States, but specifically also
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for the state of Louisiana. Of the 119 pregnancy-associated deaths for 2016 and 2017 in the state of
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Louisiana, 13.4 percent or 16 were homicides. The authors estimated that for every 100,000 women who
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were pregnant or postpartum, there were 12.9 homicide deaths, which outnumbered deaths from any single
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obstetric cause, including hypertensive disorders and amniotic fluid entering the bloodstream.
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The risk of homicide death was twice as high for women and girls during pregnancy in the postpartum
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period compared to women and girls who were not pregnant. Pregnancy and postpartum deaths were
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highest for women and girls ages 10 to 29, which is really, really sad. And they found that 50% in
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the United States, 50% of pregnancy-related homicides are of Black women, even though they only make up,
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Black women only make up about 8% of the population. 50%. That's the big problem. Okay, so I just wanted to
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confound that narrative that I think Tori Bowie is disgracefully being used for. Like, I don't believe that
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you really care. I won't believe that you care about the disparities in maternal mortality until you address
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the number one victimizing factor in a Black pregnant woman's life, which is not the healthcare system. You're
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going to have to prove that it was bias that killed Tori Bowie. Again, I'm not suggesting that it was homicide at
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all, but you're going to have to prove that it was the accusation that you are leveling right now. And so
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if you can't do that, if you can't prove it, and you have this half-baked narrative that you're just
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trying to push, then just offer compassion and pray for her family. It's really, really sad. And so
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I just wanted to mention that because you're seeing a lot of narratives surrounding that. It's emotional
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extortion. It's moral manipulation. It's politics being played with someone's life. And so just
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discount the narrative and just go ahead and pray for her family and offer condolences if and how you
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can't. It's really, really sad. All right, guys, that's all that we had time for today. I told you
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that we had to get through a lot because I missed the past couple days of being able to talk about
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the news and things that I wanted to talk about. So we'll be back here on Monday with more. Probably
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going to take a little break from some of the pride stuff. I'm just tired of it. Aren't you kind of
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tired of it? Let's talk about something good. Let me know what you want me to talk about. All right.
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I hope everyone has an amazing weekend and we will see you back here soon.