Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 827 ｜ The World Economic Forum’s Plot to “Correct” Christianity

00:00:00.000 The ACLU is lamenting the fact that a man who was a rapist and a murderer did not receive quote unquote gender affirming care before he was executed by the state of Florida.

00:00:15.280 Also, a member of the World Economic Forum is dreaming up the possibility of an artificial intelligence authored religious text that would replace the Bible.

00:00:28.660 Cool. We've got all of this and more, some serious and then some very fun at the end.

00:00:33.800 So you'll want to stick around for that.

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00:00:51.440 Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday.

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00:01:03.300 He had an injury yesterday, which is why kind of in the middle of the interview that we were recording, unfortunately, he had to go to take care of that emergency.

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00:01:14.780 It's a pretty minor in the grand scheme of things injury.

00:01:17.560 But just make sure that you're praying for Dr. Bauckham and his family and his one of his kids that was unfortunately injured.

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00:04:54.960 Okay, another thing I wanted to say, if you love this podcast, please give us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts.

00:05:02.460 Just tell us briefly why you love it.

00:05:03.800 A lot of you guys over the past week or so, because there's been a lot of controversy and some, you know, anger and pushback with some of the more, I guess, controversial episodes that we've done on mental health and things like that.

00:05:14.140 So many of you have been so kind to reach out and give me words of encouragement and give me kind words.

00:05:19.360 And that just means so much to me.

00:05:21.420 If you want to, you can also leave a kind sentence or just one word.

00:05:25.520 It doesn't matter.

00:05:26.120 And then I did want to say, we're going to give a little bit of an update on this submarine story that we covered yesterday.

00:05:40.820 But I just wanted to say before we get into it, that I did receive some of your messages and some of your comments saying that you felt that our attitude yesterday and talking about this very serious and sad story was flippant.

00:05:52.780 And that maybe we were a little bit too giggly.

00:05:54.920 We were laughing a little bit too much.

00:05:56.920 And I do apologize for that.

00:05:58.500 I receive your feedback and I appreciate your constructive criticism.

00:06:02.440 That was not the intention.

00:06:04.340 The intention was not to be flippant about human life.

00:06:06.980 Obviously, these are image bearers of God.

00:06:09.000 We don't know what their death was.

00:06:11.480 We're guessing at this point that they are probably dead, maybe have been for a long time.

00:06:16.320 But I mean, it's always tragic.

00:06:18.480 A couple of things I think that probably affected that, just so you know that it wasn't that we didn't care about these people.

00:06:24.020 Number one, we were rushing to get into an episode that we did not prepare for because our interview fell through very spontaneously.

00:06:32.160 So we were kind of just putting things together.

00:06:34.280 And right before we started recording, we were legitimately giggling about something else.

00:06:39.000 It was entirely unrelated.

00:06:40.180 That had nothing to do with the show.

00:06:42.340 And so we were laughing and in a lighthearted mood.

00:06:45.220 And then we started talking about this.

00:06:47.020 And then another thing that I think affected it, again, not an excuse, just letting you know kind of where we were, is that this has, and I'm not saying this is right, but this story really has very quickly turned into a meme online.

00:06:59.540 It turned into something very quickly that people were kind of laughing about and memeing because it is so absurd.

00:07:07.760 It's so ridiculous.

00:07:08.640 It's a situation that most people wouldn't find themselves in and that someone had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to engage in. 0.89

00:07:15.520 And there were so many steps that were not taken to ensure the protection and the safety of these people that I think a lot of people were just pointing out how absolutely ludicrous and avoidable a situation like that was.

00:07:26.980 All that to say, these are image bearers of God.

00:07:30.260 These are human beings.

00:07:31.280 These are human beings that have family.

00:07:32.860 Now, there's been some weird things about some family members that have come out about these people.

00:07:36.720 I think this is probably going to be a story for a long time, but it's absolutely terrifying.

00:07:43.560 And we did point this out yesterday.

00:07:44.880 There was some gravitas in our conversation.

00:07:46.960 Absolutely.

00:07:48.740 It's terrifying to think about what they went through, how they died, what those last moments were like, how torturous that must have been.

00:07:56.080 And just the hope and the prayer that somehow the gospel was preached to them and hopefully believed by some or all of them.

00:08:03.180 I mean, that's my hope.

00:08:04.220 That's my prayer.

00:08:05.300 And it does remind us of the fragility of life here today, gone tomorrow.

00:08:10.800 It doesn't matter how much money, how much prominence you have.

00:08:14.020 You're never insulated from the finiteness of life.

00:08:17.740 And that's something that we can just all take to heart and all remember.

00:08:24.120 And also, again, like my husband and I were talking about, there are some fun things that are risky, that are riskier than others.

00:08:34.760 I think adventure is fun.

00:08:36.160 But I do think doing things that are for no reason increasing the probability of death, again, different than being like a soldier or something like that.

00:08:50.040 That's just not something that I find a lot of thrill in.

00:08:53.180 And so I know everyone's made differently, but that to me, it's like I want to be a really good steward of the time that God has given me.

00:09:01.500 And so while you shouldn't be entirely risk averse, I also think that there's a balance there and having some prudence and the kind of activities that we engage in.

00:09:11.120 And so no matter what, pray for these families and pray for the people who are affected by this awful, awful situation.

00:09:19.720 But I just wanted to make sure you know that we are taking any loss of life seriously.

00:09:24.020 We always do.

00:09:25.060 And I apologize if it came across differently yesterday.

00:09:27.640 Okay, so let me just give you a little bit of an update.

00:09:42.920 This is what I have as of this morning from Fox News and CNN.

00:09:48.280 So missing Titanic submarine update, Canadian underwater robot searches ocean floor as oxygen levels dwindle.

00:09:55.720 As we said yesterday, there were only 24 hours left of oxygen.

00:10:00.840 So I think as we're speaking right now, like the oxygen should have already run out.

00:10:05.580 As far as we know, they haven't found them yet.

00:10:08.560 We said yesterday that they heard a banging noise somewhere.

00:10:12.200 They were trying to track the submarine down.

00:10:14.140 I still don't understand everything about how we are unable to track them and retrieve them quickly.

00:10:22.080 So this is what this is what we read.

00:10:24.080 So far, search efforts have involved the use of aircraft and sonar.

00:10:28.600 The sub is carrying five people.

00:10:30.620 As we read yesterday, a former U.S. Navy captain with submarine command experience told CNN that the submarine would have frost on the inside due to almost freezing water temperatures at that depth.

00:10:40.160 I think that's something that we forget about.

00:10:41.680 There are so many different things that can kill you when you are in the water, even when you're not when you're, you know, insulated or protected by a submarine.

00:10:51.940 The oxygen inside the Titan, that's what the submarine is called, is estimated to run out sometime Thursday morning.

00:10:58.760 This morning is believed that the sub has 96 hours or four days of life support for a crew of five passengers.

00:11:05.560 The Coast Guard also said Wednesday night that the underwater sounds have been detected in the search area, resulting in the redirection of remotely operated vehicle operations to explore the origin.

00:11:16.580 The Coast Guard said an area twice the size of Connecticut has been searched so far.

00:11:23.040 It's wild.

00:11:23.840 There's so many questions about this.

00:11:25.600 So many conspiracy theories.

00:11:27.260 My friend, I'm not on TikTok, but a couple of my friends who are on TikTok were telling me yesterday about all the different theories and stuff that they've seen on TikTok.

00:11:35.440 All of the different insight that people say that they have or do have about what's going on, what could be going on.

00:11:41.700 There's always going to be conspiracy theories when it comes to something that's mysterious like this.

00:11:45.740 Some people are pointing out how strange one of the step sons of one of the guys is acting, considering what he's posting on social media while his stepdad is trapped in this submarine, going to a Blink-182 concert, like just living up his life, celebrating as usual, apparently said something like this is what my family would want for me.

00:12:08.320 Very strange situation going on there.

00:12:11.900 There's going to be a lot of theories.

00:12:13.160 All we know is that there was and is a loss of life unless there is some kind of miracle that develops today.

00:12:20.200 Very, very strange story.

00:12:22.140 All right.

00:12:22.660 Let's get into the rest of what we want to talk about today.

00:12:24.960 And I'm finally going to talk about this crazy story that I have been wanting to discuss for the past few days because I just could not believe I could believe, but it's just continues to be stunning to me.

00:12:38.600 The things that the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, the things that they say and how far they have fallen over the past few decades, although a lot of people would say that they've always kind of been a progressive group that doesn't care nearly as much about the principles of free speech and freedom of religion as they say that they do.

00:12:59.940 So maybe this is just a natural development. And also, by the way, I will say even before we get into this, that we will get into the Hunter Biden and the Donald Trump stories next week.

00:13:12.000 Like there, I know that there's a lot there. I know that it's important. We haven't covered them yet. Things are still unfolding.

00:13:17.080 We will have a guest on next week who will give us some more understanding of what's really going on there.

00:13:22.100 But today, let's talk about this. The ACLU complains that the state of Florida failed to provide, quote unquote, gender affirming care for a convicted murderer.

00:13:32.700 So here's what the original tweet said. And let's see. This was on. When did they when did they tweet this?

00:13:41.880 June, June 16th. They said the state of Florida never provided medically necessary gender affirming care to Dwayne Owen.

00:13:49.800 So there's so much going on in that one sentence. First of all, quote unquote.

00:13:54.460 OK, so first of all, gender affirming care means actually like mutilating your body or trying to change your body to change the presentation of your body to look more like the opposite sex. 0.82

00:14:06.580 That's what that actually means. There's no such thing as gender affirming care in the sense that you can't affirm something that is not biologically true by trying to change your body.

00:14:17.140 It assumes the differentiation between gender and sex that, sure, you can be biologically male, but your gender, what you feel you are on the inside actually trumps that physical reality.

00:14:29.240 And so you should change your body in order to try to conform to what your mind and your heart feel about what your so-called gender identity is. 0.59

00:14:38.560 I mean, that's completely bunk. There is no scientific real category of gender identity.

00:14:44.560 Gender and sex are completely interchangeable. And we are what our gametes say that we are.

00:14:52.780 You can try to change your voice. You can try to change your appearance. You will never become the opposite sex. That is fixed. 1.00

00:14:59.840 So that is Orwellian speak right there. And then they say it's medically necessary.

00:15:04.340 Well, no, it's never medically necessary for a man who feels like he's a woman to get breast implants.

00:15:10.540 It's not medically necessary for a man who feels like he's a woman to take estrogen or to be chemically castrated or to be really castrated. 0.66

00:15:20.180 It's never medically necessary for a young woman who is insecure about her body, who hates being a woman and wants to pretend like she's a male to have her breast chopped off. 0.93

00:15:30.560 These are not medically necessary things. These are aesthetic things.

00:15:36.180 These are things that people are told will assuage their confusion or their trauma, but they don't.

00:15:43.480 So that's one part of this sentence. We have to like constantly define our terms because things have just become so convoluted in today's lexicon.

00:15:53.240 So the ACLU goes on to say causing her, her Dwayne Owen, her enormous suffering and violating her right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment for more than 30, the 30 years that she was in state custody.

00:16:12.940 And then a follow up tweet says in legal papers she drafted, Owen wrote that she should be accorded the essence of human dignity and be allowed to become who she was meant to be before her death.

00:16:23.580 No one should be killed by the state. So just anti-death penalty in general.

00:16:27.500 The time to end the racist, unfair and cruel death penalty is now. Wow, there's so much in here.

00:16:32.320 So let me tell you a little bit about Dwayne Owen, Dwayne Owen.

00:16:36.560 The reason that they're talking about this was because he was executed by the state of Florida.

00:16:43.980 So immediately when I saw this, I wanted to know, well, who is Dwayne Owen?

00:16:48.180 What what acted this person commit?

00:16:50.180 Because what the ACLU is saying is that he should have he should have gotten taxpayer subsidized gender transition surgery and hormone therapy and that he would have been he should have been transferred to a woman's prison because he said he was a woman.

00:17:11.640 So he was really a woman. Well, what did this man who the ACLU is saying should be transferred to a woman's prison actually do?

00:17:19.780 So I immediately looked it up. Here's why he was executed by the state of Florida.

00:17:26.020 In 1984, Owen raped and murdered Karen Slattery, who was 14. 0.91

00:17:31.340 She was babysitting two little kids. And then, according to reports, he slaughtered her.

00:17:37.540 He took her into a bedroom and raped her corpse. 0.93

00:17:41.800 He stabbed her more than 18 times, butchering her while the children were in bed. 0.97

00:17:47.920 The parents of the children then came home that night, found her sexually assaulted and murdered bloody corpse in a bedroom. 0.99

00:17:56.920 And he wasn't caught that night. They actually weren't able to physically connect.

00:18:00.940 I don't really know how, but physically connect the murder to him.

00:18:05.300 They caught him several years later for the murder of another woman that he also murdered in the 80s named Georgiana Worden.

00:18:17.900 She was 38. A single mother of two kids killed her with a hammer and raped her in her home. 1.00

00:18:25.920 One of her children found her body the next morning, according to the record.

00:18:30.920 Both killings occurred in Palm Beach County.

00:18:34.800 Owen had also attacked two other women in Palm Beach County, but they survived.

00:18:39.100 Besides his death sentence, he also received six life sentences for his crimes.

00:18:42.620 He was 23 at the time of the attacks and then 62 when he was executed.

00:18:50.480 Owen's defense team argued that Owen had dementia and gender dysphoria,

00:18:54.540 but psychiatrists for the state said Owen had a good memory, did not appear to be to present himself as female at any point.

00:19:02.560 And even if he had, that's totally irrelevant.

00:19:05.420 That's totally irrelevant to me.

00:19:07.560 They said instead that Owen was sexually sadistic, according to court records. 0.97

00:19:12.280 And so he got off on hating women, on committing violence against women, killing women, assaulting women. 0.96

00:19:21.480 Obviously, there's necrophilia in there. 0.97

00:19:23.880 Redox reported from court proceedings that Owen stated he believed he had absorbed the souls of his victims and they still lived inside him.

00:19:33.060 Owen claimed that he sexually assaulted women as part of a ritual to harvest their hormones and that he was. 0.56

00:19:39.380 So apparently he did say this, that he was a transsexual who carried out sexual violence to turn himself into female. 0.98

00:19:47.940 He had also admitted during his post-conviction psychological assessments that he had committed seven rapes and five murders, 0.55

00:19:54.500 along with the slew of other crimes which were uncovered by police.

00:20:00.300 All right.

00:20:01.120 So this is a murderer. 1.00

00:20:02.400 This is a rapist. 1.00

00:20:03.660 This is obviously a violent misogynist. 1.00

00:20:05.780 He hated women, whether it was because he thought that he was a woman or not. 0.98

00:20:10.020 It doesn't matter. 1.00

00:20:10.820 The ACLU, their priority here is that this murderous rapist be transferred to a women's prison. 1.00

00:20:20.460 They don't care about the safety, about the protection of the women in the female prison. 0.99

00:20:26.180 They just care that this murderous rapist is affirmed in his delusions. 0.71

00:20:33.360 And like, let's just let's just say the obvious thing here that no one wants to say that. 0.97

00:20:38.820 I don't know if I would.

00:20:40.140 I don't know if I would understand the connection or have seen the connection if it weren't for the journalists at Redox and Genevieve Glock and how often they report on these stories.

00:20:51.060 There is a connection here.

00:20:52.640 It's not random.

00:20:54.900 We actually see this a lot.

00:20:57.160 We see that these men who claim that they're women, they act out of severe jealousy.

00:21:03.380 It's actually they are acting out of a severe hatred for women. 0.72

00:21:07.620 They view women as objects and they loathe women.

00:21:12.060 They're either envious of women or they really just don't like them. 0.53

00:21:15.980 And so they commit this kind of violence.

00:21:18.180 They commit the kind of violence and they say, oh, it's because I didn't receive affirmation.

00:21:22.600 Oh, it's because no one would accept me as a woman.

00:21:25.560 No, you just hated women. 1.00

00:21:26.940 You're just a violent man. 1.00

00:21:29.060 You're just a violent man. 1.00

00:21:30.920 And there are all kinds of mental health issues, I think, going on there. 0.96

00:21:35.240 I think in a lot of cases, I don't know about in his case, since this happened so long ago, I think in a lot of cases, pornography, the kinds of pornography consumed by these violent men.

00:21:45.280 I think that plays a role.

00:21:46.980 I also think a lot of times there is a history of sexual violence in their own past, especially as children.

00:21:53.140 But the very last thing it is, is that, oh, society just needs to accept them as women and put women at risk. 1.00

00:22:02.360 To affirm the delusions of a murderer and a necrophile. 0.55

00:22:08.780 Like, no, thank you.

00:22:10.980 No, thank you, ACLU. 1.00

00:22:12.460 You are a giant joke and you deserve to be thrown into the trash heap of history. 0.99

00:22:19.820 There are some anti-death penalty advocates who were very upset about this story. 0.99

00:22:25.320 Shane Claiborne claimed that Dwayne Owen was severely mentally ill and should not have been executed.

00:22:32.420 Shane Claiborne said, our country is sick. 0.98

00:22:34.920 The death penalty is evil. 0.94

00:22:36.720 Dwayne Owen, a man with severe mental illness, was executed tonight in Florida.

00:22:40.200 His final statement, I have transcended space and time.

00:22:42.840 I have seen the visions of the crow.

00:22:44.440 My energy and particles will transform ad infinitum.

00:22:47.820 I will live on.

00:22:48.800 I am Tula 13.

00:22:51.720 I don't see why the rantings of a murderer.

00:22:55.720 I mean, we obviously know there was something wrong with him.

00:22:58.580 He said crazy things back in 1984.

00:23:00.920 I don't see how that should inhibit or prohibit any way justice from being carried out.

00:23:07.480 Why is the death penalty wrong in this case?

00:23:10.700 It is totally just.

00:23:12.100 Actually, the only injustice in this case is that it took 40 years instead of 40 hours to execute this person.

00:23:19.740 After this person was found guilty, after a fair trial, after fair and objective due process of law was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he committed these crimes, he should have been executed.

00:23:36.160 Now, my preference, my strong preference would be that the gospel was shared with him, that he was given the opportunity to repent and to see truth, and then that justice was carried out.

00:23:48.060 It is actually unjust that he was able to live on the taxpayer dime for years and years before he received the death penalty.

00:23:57.420 That is the injustice here.

00:23:59.500 That's the injustice here.

00:24:00.700 So there's a lot going on here.

00:24:14.700 People are mad that he didn't get the quote unquote gender affirming care.

00:24:18.620 People are mad that he was executed.

00:24:20.300 People are mad because the death penalty is apparently racist.

00:24:23.520 Now, Dwayne Owen is white, but they claim that it's disproportionately used against black Americans, which still is not an argument against the death penalty per se.

00:24:33.780 You could say that the system in America, it's not fair.

00:24:37.200 We should make sure that it's consistently applied across the board or at least from case to case in each state, which I which I would agree with.

00:24:45.740 I'm not sure that there is evidence in its inherent racism today just because some kind of like disparity exists.

00:24:54.160 But I absolutely agree that like if you want to say, OK, we can only do the death penalty where there is like DNA present.

00:25:02.740 I'm open to those debates.

00:25:04.440 I'm not open to this idea that the death penalty is fundamentally in principle unjust.

00:25:11.220 It's absolutely not.

00:25:13.240 And especially for Christians to say that for Christians to say that execution is is unjust or cruel for certain cases like murder. 0.70

00:25:25.420 You, again, are just saying that you think that you are more just than God, that you think you're more compassionate, that you're wiser than God, that you know better than him what justice looks like.

00:25:35.440 There is no sound biblical argument for the idea that Jesus abolished the death penalty.

00:25:41.080 John 8 doesn't prove that there's no part of Jesus's ministry that says that he abolishes the death penalty.

00:25:49.020 In fact, we see support for the death penalty in the New Testament in Romans 13.

00:25:53.080 And it goes all the way back to Genesis 9, 6, again, that Noahic covenant where God demands the death penalty for murder.

00:26:00.640 Yes, of course, there are some exceptions that God makes for David, for Moses throughout Scripture.

00:26:06.040 But God's law is there and he roots it actually in in creation.

00:26:10.960 He doesn't root it in Levitical law.

00:26:13.120 He doesn't root it in root it in some kind of shifting cultural or social standard.

00:26:18.560 God says that you shall execute a man or you shall execute a person that murder someone else again, different than manslaughter.

00:26:26.880 Because human beings were made in God's image and because human beings are so valuable, because their dignity matters so much, because God upholds the dignity and the innate worth and the innate value of a human being so much above any other creature, any other animal in the universe.

00:26:46.780 The only just punishment for a murder of that image bearer of God is execution.

00:26:53.820 God says that before the formation of Israel, he rooted in a reason that is still just as true today as it was thousands of years ago that we are made in God's image.

00:27:03.920 So, yes, execution.

00:27:05.940 Now, we believe after due process of law, a fair trial.

00:27:12.500 And God did, too, by the way.

00:27:14.400 Due process existed in the Old Testament.

00:27:16.780 The presence of two or three witnesses.

00:27:18.480 There were a variety of stipulations that had to be put in place in any kind of legal proceeding.

00:27:22.820 But certainly when it comes to execution, like we believe in that.

00:27:26.680 That is very important.

00:27:27.840 Even the worst rapists and murders, we believe, have a right to a fair trial.

00:27:33.620 We believe in impartial justice, whether you're rich or you're poor or you're black or you're white.

00:27:38.320 That should be a principle on which America stands.

00:27:41.180 But to say that execution was wrong in this case, again, the only wrong committed when it came to the execution of this guy was that it took so long.

00:27:52.240 It shouldn't have taken this long.

00:27:54.080 And also the argument that people put forth that, well, we should give them as much opportunity as possible to be saved.

00:28:00.800 Look, I mean, God is completely sovereign.

00:28:04.660 Every single day is written out for us before any of them came to be.

00:28:09.080 Psalm 139.

00:28:10.680 Like God is not going to be if God is was going to save Dwayne Owen, which I don't know, maybe he did in his last moments.

00:28:16.980 If God is going to save Dwayne Owen, he's not going to be like, oh, shoot, I didn't realize he was going to be executed tomorrow.

00:28:24.700 That totally throws off my plans.

00:28:26.760 That totally thwarts my purposes of they had only waited until Saturday.

00:28:31.320 Then I would have finally saved him.

00:28:33.340 I mean, that picture of God is an impotent one.

00:28:35.740 That's not who God is.

00:28:37.040 Like, God doesn't need us to like to to inhibit justice or prohibit justice for him to carry out his plan of salvation.

00:28:49.200 God is in control.

00:28:51.540 He's not going to be thrown off because someone wasn't given the maximum number of days before their natural death.

00:29:00.680 There absolutely are justifications for the death penalty.

00:29:04.060 This was one of them.

00:29:04.980 No prisoner should ever, ever, ever be given cross sex hormones or surgeries for the sake of so-called gender affirmation.

00:29:16.120 No man, I don't care how he identifies. 0.85

00:29:18.480 I don't care how much he says he's internally tortured, should be transferred to a women's prison ever, ever. 1.00

00:29:26.240 The stories coming out of these women's prisons in these mostly liberal states are horrific. 1.00

00:29:32.760 Absolutely horrific, these women being traumatized by the men who think they're women in prison.

00:29:37.560 It is a travesty.

00:29:38.820 I mean, one of the greatest human rights violations going on right under our noses right now is women being forced to be jailed with men who think they're women, who are rapists, who are murderers, who are pedophiles. 0.98

00:29:50.600 It is sick. 0.83

00:29:51.760 And the ACLU is 100 percent behind that.

00:29:54.920 It's absolutely insane.

00:29:58.300 Okay, we've got another similar story to this.

00:30:01.320 And that is, again, reported by Redux.

00:30:04.060 Violent murderer David Warfield, who goes by the name of Dana Rivers, was allowed to transfer to women's prison.

00:30:11.180 So this is just another this is another example of what I'm talking about.

00:30:14.760 So in 2016, he was sentenced for the triple homicide of a California lesbian couple and their son.

00:30:21.360 He was sentenced to life without parole, as the judge called it, the most depraved crime he ever handled in the criminal justice system in 33 years.

00:30:28.860 It's actually pretty rare for someone to get a sentence that heavy in the state of California.

00:30:32.620 They are pro-crime and anti-justice.

00:30:35.720 And so very often people get out of jail.

00:30:38.220 They recommit the crimes.

00:30:39.380 No one has ever held accountable for this recidivism, just like in any blue area. 0.60

00:30:44.640 But due to California's SB 132, also known as the Transgender Respect Agency and Dignity Act, signed into law by Gavin Newsom in 2021,

00:30:54.140 Rivers has officially been transferred to a women's prison on June 16th, 2023. 1.00

00:30:59.360 This person who is a documented woman hater, who hated this couple for who knows what reason,

00:31:06.000 murdered brutally the entire family because of so-called transgender dignity. 1.00

00:31:11.560 He, this violent murder, is being transferred to a women's prison in the state of California. 0.99

00:31:16.320 Again, safety, rights, privacy of the women in that women's prison be damned. 1.00

00:31:22.280 Brandon Showalter, we've had him on the show before. 0.51

00:31:24.380 He writes for the Christian Post, mostly about gender issues.

00:31:27.840 He said this, Dana Rivers, a trans activist man who in 2016 brutally murdered a lesbian couple and their teenage son

00:31:34.160 has officially been transferred to a women's prison.

00:31:36.020 This is the direct result of the lunacy of gender self-identity laws in the state of California.

00:31:41.380 He was so violent and sadistic. 0.75

00:31:43.020 He stabbed one of the women he killed dozens of times. 0.72

00:31:45.020 OK, I don't need to read all the details.

00:31:47.240 It was a very vicious murder, he said.

00:31:49.660 Some of the women he'll be incarcerated with selflessly prayed and fasted for the Christian Post March 23rd event about gender ideology. 0.69

00:31:59.400 And so he's saying, like, the women in this prison, some of them, they they understand what's going on.

00:32:07.460 They're praying for their protection.

00:32:09.040 They're praying for an end of this.

00:32:10.360 I mean, some of the most vulnerable people in our society are now just being placed on the altar of transgenderism. 0.98

00:32:17.300 It's so amazing how we went from apparently caring about women's rights, the Me Too movement, wanting women to be heard to this.

00:32:26.900 Now, women don't have enough intersectionality points. 1.00

00:32:29.480 They're not high enough on the oppression totem pole. 0.96

00:32:31.720 Now, violent, rapists, in some cases, pedophile men who just happen to say that they're women, they have more oppression points. 0.67

00:32:41.720 They have more social capital. 0.98

00:32:43.820 They get more.

00:32:44.680 They're afforded more privileges by groups like the ACLU now than these vulnerable women. 1.00

00:32:52.360 It's it's it's a nightmare.

00:32:54.400 And absolutely, Christians are called to speak up against this, by the way.

00:32:58.040 Absolutely, Christians are called to engage in the so-called culture war. 1.00

00:33:02.260 As we talked about on Monday, I know Christians being involved in the fight about gender, the fight about abortion, the fight about women's rights in this case, the battle over these very existential and moral issues.

00:33:15.840 I know it's demonized is, oh, we just want Christians just want power.

00:33:19.540 No, Christians are doing what we have always done for the past 2000 years, which is create a refuge from the predation and the chaos and the confusion of the world, a refuge of clarity, a refuge of peace, a refuge of love, a refuge of strength, a refuge of protection for the most vulnerable in our society, which typically are women and children.

00:33:43.100 And so by fighting against gender ideology, by fighting against wicked laws like this, by fighting against the hijacking of our language, the hijacking of the idea of what gender is, the redefinition of the family, abortion, all of these things that put especially children, but also women in a lot of cases at risk.

00:34:02.620 Yes, that is part of the responsibility of Christians.

00:34:05.260 Christians have literally been doing that for thousands of years.

00:34:08.720 We've talked before about the book When Children Became People by, I believe it's David Bakke, that when Christianity came onto the scene, we created children as a vulnerable class of people worthy of protection rather than what they were at the time in the pagan world, which was they were just objects of sexual gratification.

00:34:28.120 They were used for manual labor.

00:34:29.480 They were enslaved many times.

00:34:31.220 They just were neglected because the mortality rate was so high.

00:34:34.720 The adult free male was the only one who was seen as anyone deserving of rights or having value or anything like that.

00:34:41.280 And so when Christianity burst on the scene and said, no, the vulnerable matter and they have dignity, too.

00:34:46.840 They're also made in the image of God.

00:34:48.800 They have souls.

00:34:49.600 We're not just matter here.

00:34:51.200 We're not just materials.

00:34:53.140 And actually, we are all equally dead and sin apart from Christ.

00:34:56.620 And we are all equally saved in Christ by grace through faith.

00:35:01.180 If by grace through faith we are saved, that radical message of equality of value and equality of worth changed the world.

00:35:10.040 And so Christians got to work not just caring for these people, but over time creating the orphanages, creating the adoption agencies, creating, in some cases, just revolutionizing medical care, how hospitals worked.

00:35:22.660 These nonprofit organizations, these entities, these entities that helped the poor, that did not exist at the time because your value was judged by your productivity.

00:35:35.460 And Christianity and the gospel preached by Jesus Christ completely changed that, completely changed the Western world. 0.98

00:35:44.200 And so Christians today who are fighting for the innate dignity and the worth of human beings, no matter their gender, no matter their age, no matter their disability, who are saying that these people matter and they have a voice, too, as we are when we're fighting for the reality of gender, for the reality of life inside the womb.

00:36:10.140 We're just doing what Christians have done for thousands of years.

00:36:16.060 What do we always say?

00:36:17.040 Politics matter because policy matters, because people matter.

00:36:20.500 Politics affects policy.

00:36:21.980 Policy affects people.

00:36:23.460 And people, because they are made in God's image, matter.

00:36:27.780 Christians who think they are above the culture wars, who think they're above politics, who think they're above all this stuff because it makes them sad. 0.98

00:36:35.380 It makes them depressed.

00:36:36.640 They don't want to get down into the mud.

00:36:38.160 It's too complicated.

00:36:39.140 It's too divisive.

00:36:40.260 We're just supposed to love people.

00:36:42.100 This is a part of loving people.

00:36:43.940 It's not the only part, but it is a part of loving people because you see how the politics in California, it pushed a law like this that then is making these women vulnerable, women that we should be caring about.

00:36:58.140 The law matters.

00:37:00.580 Therefore, politics matter.

00:37:03.320 Therefore, Christians should care about it.

00:37:05.380 It affects the real lives of real people, especially the poor, especially the incarcerated, especially the child, especially the person with special needs.

00:37:16.940 And if we are not to be their voice, who is?

00:37:19.120 So, again, I say, what's being pushed by the ACLU, what's happening in women's prisons across the country in the name of gender ideology is one of the biggest human rights atrocities that we have ever seen.

00:37:30.960 And we need to care about it.

00:37:32.780 We need to care about it.

00:37:34.480 We need to be talking about it to our friends.

00:37:36.560 We need to be talking about it to our legislators.

00:37:38.840 We need to be speaking up against gender ideology wherever we see it, because it always destroys. 0.99

00:37:43.600 Okay, I've been meaning to talk about this story for a while.

00:37:59.500 It's an interesting one.

00:38:00.920 It doesn't have anything to do with what we were just discussing, but it's something to keep our eye on.

00:38:04.780 And I think there's a lot to learn from this story.

00:38:06.860 So, AI apparently is being recruited to rewrite the Bible, to correct the Bible, to make sure that it's politically correct and that it's, you know, in with the time.

00:38:18.300 So, this was reported last week by CBN in a May 19th interview, Yuval Noah Harari.

00:38:25.660 We've probably talked about him before, maybe with Justin Haskins in the past.

00:38:28.980 He's a part of the World Economic Forum.

00:38:31.280 He's promoted all kinds of crazy ideas when it comes to artificial intelligence.

00:38:34.600 He's now promoting the idea that AI will be able to generate a new globally acceptable religious book, developing religions that are actually correct.

00:38:43.720 So, we have a video of Harari saying this.

00:38:46.040 Here he is.

00:38:46.940 The printing press printed as many copies of the Bible as Gutenberg instructed it, but it did not create a single new page.

00:38:56.920 It had no ideas of its own about the Bible.

00:38:59.640 Is it good?

00:39:00.240 Is it bad?

00:39:00.920 How to interpret this?

00:39:02.140 How to interpret that?

00:39:03.100 But AI can create new ideas, can even write a new Bible.

00:39:10.240 We, you know, throughout history, religions dreamt about having a book written by a superhuman intelligence, by a non-human entity.

00:39:20.480 Every religion claims our book, all the books of the other religions, they, humans wrote them. 0.52

00:39:25.440 But our book, no, no, no, no, no.

00:39:26.840 It came from some superhuman intelligence.

00:39:29.680 In a few years, there might be religions that are actually correct. 1.00

00:39:34.420 Hmm, that's funny.

00:39:37.040 Okay, so I did catch the last part of what he said, and now I'm realizing what's being quoted about him is not exactly correct.

00:39:44.780 So, there's so much wrong about what he said.

00:39:46.460 But what he is saying, it's being reported that, oh, there are going to be religions that are actually correct because of AI.

00:39:52.140 What he means by that is that religions will be correct in asserting that their book was written by a higher intelligence because it will have been written by artificial intelligence.

00:40:04.620 Now, there's still so much disturbing about what he said there.

00:40:08.320 And for a supposedly smart guy, he misunderstands religion a lot.

00:40:13.140 He misunderstands religious texts.

00:40:15.500 He misunderstands the sacred.

00:40:18.180 He misunderstands the printing press.

00:40:20.560 And he misunderstands how the Bible was developed.

00:40:24.180 Right.

00:40:24.980 The printing press only printed the words that were already written.

00:40:29.240 Of course, that was its job.

00:40:31.300 It was never meant to interpret.

00:40:33.560 It was never meant to correct.

00:40:35.360 There were men doing that.

00:40:36.580 There were faithful Christians throughout history who were meticulously taking the time to translate the Bible from the Hebrew and from the Greek to modern languages.

00:40:51.140 And again, thank the Lord for the Protestant Reformation, which happened after the development of the printing press and helped the mass translation of the Bible.

00:41:03.160 And again, the exact translation, this was a big part of what Martin Luther was dedicated to, the translation of the Bible into German, into modern languages, so the average person could read it.

00:41:17.300 So it wasn't just that they had to walk into the Catholic Church and to hear something in Latin and then not really understand what was being applied or what was being said to them, how they were supposed to apply it.

00:41:28.040 But that the average person could read the Bible and through the power of the Holy Spirit, understand the fundamentals of what was being said.

00:41:37.140 I mean, that changed the world.

00:41:38.580 I just talked about how Christianity changed the world.

00:41:40.920 That would not have, it wouldn't have spread as far as it did if it weren't for the Bible in the hands of the common person, that the common person was able to become a theologian through the power of the Holy Spirit and the wisdom that was given to them.

00:41:53.240 Yes, by the word of God, yes, by the word of God and also by other theologians and teachers, we still as Protestants believe in the importance of that.

00:42:00.820 But we are, we do believe that we do have a higher power, not superhuman.

00:42:05.980 He says a super, a superhuman power that has inspired our text, but that the Holy Spirit inspired the text, that it is the inerrant word of God.

00:42:16.360 And therefore, we would never, ever, ever submit to changes by artificial intelligence, which is not the same thing at all as some kind of higher power entity.

00:42:27.600 It's still something that's made by man. 0.92

00:42:29.900 It's still something that is, in a sense, finite, that doesn't have transcendent understanding.

00:42:35.980 It might have more understanding than us, but doesn't have transcendent understanding.

00:42:39.240 It doesn't exist outside of time and space.

00:42:41.740 It didn't actually create anything.

00:42:43.540 Its capacity to create was created by humans, unlike God, who stands outside of time and space, who is uncreated, the I am that I am.

00:42:54.240 And so, no, it's not comparable at all to say that AI could somehow replace God, inspiring a universal global text.

00:43:04.360 And no one wants that, by the way.

00:43:06.740 Progressives always misunderstand human nature.

00:43:09.740 It would be impossible, impossible to create some kind of religious text that everyone agrees on.

00:43:15.600 Oh, yeah.

00:43:16.060 OK, we'll put my piece in over here.

00:43:18.000 You can put your piece in over here.

00:43:20.080 I mean, there are so many cultural differences, religious differences, political differences.

00:43:23.760 Of course, we're never going to agree on what gets in some kind of man-made text to try to order society around some AI-created religion that would never, ever happen.

00:43:35.480 That's why Christianity is so beautiful, because it is absolutely the most culturally diverse, the most ethnically diverse, the most socioeconomically diverse, globally diverse religion, faith in existence.

00:43:51.540 And there is unity through the word of God, because it is consistent, because it doesn't change based on your culture.

00:44:02.620 It shouldn't change based on your gender. 0.94

00:44:05.260 It shouldn't change based on your political background or your upbringing or your socioeconomic class.

00:44:11.480 You might bring a different perspective to the table, but the word of God is the word of God.

00:44:14.980 There is one Holy Spirit.

00:44:17.360 In fact, this is reminding me of a verse in Ephesians about one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

00:44:28.000 So this is Ephesians 4, 4 through 5.

00:44:30.640 There's one body and one spirit, just as you are called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

00:44:44.600 Amazing.

00:44:45.220 That is what the body of Christ is.

00:44:46.600 It is made up of many members, but it is united in Christ.

00:44:50.200 It is united through the wisdom that we gain through the Holy Spirit, through the word of God.

00:44:54.680 And we will never, ever rely on artificial intelligence to change or make improvements to what already is an infallible and inerrant text.

00:45:06.300 But it doesn't surprise me that people like him would want that.

00:45:09.560 The World Economic Forum and the rest of the oligarchs there are always looking for different ways to manipulate and to control the masses. 0.63

00:45:17.480 This is very similar to what communist China has done. 0.78

00:45:21.620 The CCP has tried to edit the Bible to take out anything that doesn't agree with communism, which I actually love because it just shows the commies here that the Bible, as it is written, does not agree with communism as much as they like to say that the early church was a communist entity or somehow that Jesus was some transgender communist. 0.62

00:45:42.320 Well, if communism was actually upheld by the Bible, which is absolutely not because it's a brutal human dignity, less ideology, then the CCP wouldn't have to edit anything.

00:45:55.520 They would just say, everyone follow this Bible.

00:45:57.540 But they strongly discourage Christianity. 0.70

00:45:59.700 They hate Christian worship. 0.95

00:46:01.100 They try to get rid of it as much as they possibly can. 0.89

00:46:03.560 And they're trying to edit the Bible to make it seem more communist.

00:46:05.960 And that would go all the way back to the beginning of the Bible that says, do not covet.

00:46:13.780 Not only do not steal, but do not covet.

00:46:16.040 So the idea of personal property, the idea of a right to your property, the idea that it is evil to want something that is not yours and then to take something that is not yours, which is entirely what communism and socialism are.

00:46:29.020 It's an ideology of envy and greed, of covetousness, of theft.

00:46:35.920 That is, I mean, all those things are prohibited in Scripture.

00:46:38.660 So, of course, China would have to change it.

00:46:40.500 Of course, the World Economic Forum would have to change it.

00:46:43.960 But thank the Lord for the Word of God.

00:46:46.360 I mean, be buying your Bibles.

00:46:48.140 Be buying your Bibles.

00:46:49.540 I recommended a Bible the other—I love recommending the ESV Study Bible.

00:46:53.600 I recommended it to someone the other day who I'm not sure has any kind of familiarity with the Bible.

00:46:58.480 And so I think it's great for people who are either, like, you're a brand-new believer and you want to know how to read Scripture and how to interpret Scripture.

00:47:07.880 And then—or someone who is like, you just want to get deeper into theology and apologetics.

00:47:12.240 I love the ESV Study Bible.

00:47:13.920 I've tried other Bibles, and it's my favorite.

00:47:16.920 I still just credit my friend, who is kind of like a mentor to me when I was in college.

00:47:21.500 He was a few years older, who, when I was a sophomore in college, gave me the ESV Study Bible that God used to really change my life.

00:47:27.540 It's expensive, but it's worth the investment.

00:47:32.080 So let's be buying all the Bibles because there could come a day. 0.97

00:47:35.060 There could come a day when the only option available to us is this artificial intelligence Bible that we've got, which is quite frightening.

00:47:42.160 All right.

00:47:55.280 We need a little padding at the end of the episode after the last ad.

00:47:58.960 So I'm trying to think about how we are going to end, how we're going to end this.

00:48:03.080 And I think we're just going to end it in a fun way.

00:48:04.860 We can talk about the things that we were laughing about yesterday before we started the episode.

00:48:11.340 And I was just stunned and excited to hear that producer Brie, whom you guys love when I have on, I always get so much positive feedback about our conversations.

00:48:22.020 She was telling me yesterday that she did not see her destiny as podcast producing.

00:48:26.420 She had a different talent.

00:48:29.760 She had her sights set on something else.

00:48:32.600 So tell us a little bit about those young Brie adolescent years.

00:48:37.200 My big dreams.

00:48:37.900 Yes.

00:48:38.180 And how you were going to become a pop star.

00:48:41.500 I was going to be discovered.

00:48:43.560 Yes.

00:48:44.160 When I was younger, I found, I don't know how I got it actually, like a tape recorder.

00:48:49.460 Yeah.

00:48:49.940 And which even then was like old technology.

00:48:53.060 And I would record demos.

00:48:55.480 Do you still have them?

00:48:57.360 No.

00:48:58.000 I don't believe you.

00:48:58.920 I wouldn't even know where to play them because they're on tapes.

00:49:02.380 We could find, we could find.

00:49:04.460 But I also might've recorded over them.

00:49:06.740 And my secret, my secret feeling was that like, even at the time I knew, I like, I would never show my parents this.

00:49:14.660 Yeah.

00:49:15.260 But, but you were going to send them.

00:49:16.700 If I just like leave this somewhere, someone's going to find it.

00:49:21.300 God's going to take care of it.

00:49:22.340 And they're going to discover me.

00:49:23.940 Yes.

00:49:24.340 And it never happened.

00:49:25.080 What were you singing?

00:49:26.080 What kind of songs were you singing?

00:49:27.140 Oh, it was probably like Hilary Duff covers at the time.

00:49:30.580 Oh, yeah.

00:49:30.600 The rain fall down.

00:49:32.660 Yeah.

00:49:32.680 I was all about that album.

00:49:34.240 Yeah.

00:49:34.340 Yeah.

00:49:34.660 Oh, that's a great album.

00:49:35.800 And Disney always had music videos too.

00:49:38.060 Yeah.

00:49:38.680 Yeah.

00:49:39.300 Oh, good stuff.

00:49:39.480 I always wanted to do a music video.

00:49:41.640 I had like a talent show birthday party, I think.

00:49:45.460 And like my mom's so sweet.

00:49:47.760 She always did such like cute birthday parties sometimes, some of the years.

00:49:52.200 And we had like a little stage and like streamers behind us.

00:49:57.180 And we would do karaoke for our talent show birthday party.

00:50:01.340 I remember I was wearing my Velcro limited two shirt.

00:50:04.520 Limited two.

00:50:05.380 Yes.

00:50:05.740 Did you have a Velcro shirt?

00:50:07.120 No, I didn't. 0.86

00:50:07.980 So ugly.

00:50:09.140 Why?

00:50:09.480 But Velcro shirts were so like so cool.

00:50:13.840 And you could put like whatever messages you wanted on there.

00:50:16.560 So wild.

00:50:17.740 Yeah.

00:50:17.980 Limited two was my jam.

00:50:19.320 When I was allowed to shop there, I wasn't always allowed to shop there.

00:50:21.820 I wasn't either.

00:50:22.640 I don't remember why though.

00:50:23.880 It was expensive.

00:50:25.260 I think that was part of it.

00:50:26.620 And then also, I don't know.

00:50:28.280 There was my, I definitely wasn't allowed to shop at Abercrombie or Hollister.

00:50:31.340 No, no, no.

00:50:32.200 Me neither.

00:50:32.600 Which makes sense.

00:50:33.220 I actually watched a documentary on Abercrombie the other day.

00:50:36.060 It's very sexual.

00:50:37.520 Very.

00:50:38.100 And weird.

00:50:38.560 Lots of shirtless men.

00:50:39.780 Lots of shirtless men.

00:50:40.620 And women. 0.98

00:50:40.940 And so I under, what?

00:50:42.500 And women. 0.98

00:50:43.220 And women. 0.98

00:50:43.820 Yeah.

00:50:44.260 So I'm glad that my parents didn't let me shop there.

00:50:47.460 You heard that, Mom and Dad.

00:50:48.680 You were right.

00:50:49.560 Even though my other friends were allowed to.

00:50:53.980 Okay.

00:50:54.380 So I also wanted to get discovered as a pop star.

00:50:58.440 Everyone did, I think.

00:51:00.600 And I, like Brie actually, she did musical theater and stuff.

00:51:03.880 I've not, I've not heard her sing, but I assume that she can actually sing.

00:51:07.700 Like, I carry the tune, I carry a tune as well as like a choir member, not a soloist.

00:51:15.520 So I could definitely be in a choir.

00:51:17.040 I can definitely harmonize.

00:51:18.240 Like, I can stay on tune.

00:51:19.720 My mom is very musical.

00:51:21.440 My brother is musical.

00:51:22.200 So I have a good ear, good rhythm.

00:51:24.220 But I'm not, I don't have like a good voice.

00:51:26.060 And yeah, of course, everyone wanted to be Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera, which

00:51:29.860 I also wasn't allowed to listen to them.

00:51:31.920 But I, I could listen to NSYNC and Backstreet Boys anyway.

00:51:37.600 But we had, you know, we had Michelle Branch. 1.00

00:51:40.020 We had Jump 5.

00:51:42.320 We had, you know, Natalie Grant, Nicole Nordman, those kind of things.

00:51:48.960 So I was allowed to look up to them.

00:51:49.980 But anyway, I wanted to be a singer and I was convinced as kind of as like, um, like

00:51:57.820 you thought that Providence was going to, you know, lead you in the right direction.

00:52:02.160 I thought that if I kind of was like singing at the grocery store with my mom when we were

00:52:08.440 grocery shopping and I was just like singing to myself that someone would be like, wait,

00:52:15.780 what?

00:52:18.060 A talent scout.

00:52:19.400 The talent scout on aisle six, just picking out flower would be like, wait, wait, stop

00:52:28.460 right there.

00:52:29.880 Are you an angel or are you just an average eight year old girl?

00:52:36.860 Do you want to be on Disney?

00:52:38.380 Do you want your own show?

00:52:40.160 Do you want to sign a record deal?

00:52:42.960 I thought that that's what how it, that's how it would happen.

00:52:45.920 Or like Tyra Banks would see me or something.

00:52:49.260 And that's, that's how it would, that's how it would.

00:52:51.320 As an eight year old.

00:52:52.740 Yeah.

00:52:53.540 Uh-huh.

00:52:54.180 Or like, I probably went on until I was like 12 and then I gave up on that and I realized

00:52:58.920 I probably wasn't going to be a singer.

00:53:01.740 But I think everyone kind of had aspirations at some point.

00:53:04.560 Everyone made up routines.

00:53:06.580 Like, did you make up dance routines?

00:53:08.080 Yes.

00:53:08.840 My, and my sister and I would do like fake talk shows where we were the celebrities 1.00

00:53:13.420 going on a talk show.

00:53:14.700 Oh, that's fun.

00:53:15.660 Yeah.

00:53:16.180 That's fun.

00:53:16.660 I still have those videos.

00:53:18.120 Oh my gosh.

00:53:18.800 I'll have to show you something.

00:53:19.440 It's like, oh really?

00:53:20.960 Yeah.

00:53:21.220 I would feel so privileged to see that.

00:53:24.740 I, so I really liked like drama more than I liked singing as I got into high school.

00:53:29.720 I didn't do it that much, but I do remember in sixth grade, we had to do like a duet.

00:53:36.100 They called it a duet, but it was like a play, a skit for drama class.

00:53:40.660 And me and my friend, her name was Katie.

00:53:43.680 Everyone like picked out of a pile of skits, of scripts that, that like the drama teacher

00:53:48.340 just gave and printed out.

00:53:49.720 And you just memorize the lines and you had to do them in front of like parents and everything.

00:53:54.060 But we decided that we were going to write ours, that we were going to write them ourselves

00:54:00.520 as 12 year olds.

00:54:02.140 And I'm not kidding.

00:54:03.120 Well, I look back.

00:54:04.140 I'm like, who knows?

00:54:05.020 But everyone was laughing.

00:54:06.120 Everyone thought it was so funny.

00:54:07.660 We came up with a pretty good idea for 12 year olds that I was going to be this crazy

00:54:11.860 psychiatrist and that my friend was going to come in with all of these different crazy

00:54:16.840 like problems. 0.91

00:54:19.000 And that I was going to diagnose her with like, I don't know, some ridiculous strategy 0.93

00:54:25.520 to try to over. 0.60

00:54:26.580 It's probably totally politically incorrect today to try to like overcome her purported 0.63

00:54:31.420 problems.

00:54:32.680 What was my name?

00:54:33.700 It was like Dr. Flannery or something like that. 0.70

00:54:36.520 And I had this ridiculous costume. 0.56

00:54:38.460 But yeah, sixth graders, we decided to write our own little play.

00:54:42.760 So that's more of what I was into.

00:54:44.460 I guess that somehow connects to what I do today.

00:54:46.460 Yeah, I think so.

00:54:49.000 Man, 12 year olds, just the like hardest, most awkward years of your life.

00:54:55.640 But it's character building.

00:54:57.280 It is, you know, and a little bit of drama.

00:55:01.620 Yeah.

00:55:02.000 So much drama.

00:55:02.900 So many hormones.

00:55:03.900 Yeah.

00:55:04.440 Yeah.

00:55:05.180 It's fun.

00:55:06.140 Fun times.

00:55:07.220 Fun times.

00:55:08.100 Neither of us, neither of us got discovered.

00:55:12.080 No, I'm still waiting.

00:55:13.320 Still waiting.

00:55:14.160 Okay.

00:55:14.740 To be discovered.

00:55:15.400 Well, we've landed in the podcast realm.

00:55:17.660 I guess that's the next best thing if you can't be Britney Spears. 1.00

00:55:20.660 Yeah.

00:55:21.140 Actually, I think that we're probably doing better than Britney Spears right now.

00:55:24.020 But we won't get into that.

00:55:24.600 Yeah, that's probably not the best example.

00:55:26.620 All right.

00:55:27.360 That's all we got time for today.

00:55:28.560 We will be back here on Monday.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 22, 2023

Ep 827 ｜ The World Economic Forum’s Plot to “Correct” Christianity

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